True Love....thoughts??

[LindaC781]

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c299/lilbigmutha/true_love.jpg

To me, love doesn't come with a price tag. You cannot put a price on true love, because it is priceless. You cannot love someone just for the amount of money he/she has, you have to love them for the person they are. If they are sweet, and their personality is a lot like yours, the chance for true love to happen is much greater.

Once BOTH OF YOU truly know the other person, THEN you can claim "true love". When you look at that person, and care about them enough to think about them all of the time, then you are "in love". But this doesn't necessarily involve money or material things at all. It has to do with simple, basic human to human interaction. Whether the other person is rich or not has NOTHING to do with love. Period.

What do you all think?

[LindaC781]

You are right about the love you have for your children...I still go into my daughters room and just look at her...can't believe I made such a beautiful child. I think what I was thinking was more along the lines of man/woman love. So many think that a rich man needs to marry a rich woman, but I tend to disagree...as long as they truly love each other, money shouldn't matter...

[Poefiend]

Love never lasts...sad but true...so why bother? :lol: Jk

[Mechi]

To be in love for me is different from true love. And I would agree that you can not chose with whom you fall in love.

However true love is something wonderful which grows from there over time when the two ppl involved are willing.

[SoS]

"It is better to have loved a 'short' than never to have loved 'a tall' :D

[Poefiend]

Love makes the world go round' Love makes the world go round'
that song just popped into my head :)

[Poefiend]

Love means never having to say youre sorry :)

[JMoonwalker88]

i saw this thread on mjno...

well my 2 cents is this. if you love them with, through there goods and their bads and they love you through your goods n bads and all that junk, then yea its love go get married wooohooo

[SoS]

Love is sometimes being really really very sorry:boohoo:

[Mariajoaosilva]

True love is the most wonderful,giving and powerful feeling someone can have.
True love makes us see the world and the persons,with different eyes.
True love means being happy when the other is happy,means being sad when the other is sad.
True Love never dies.

[JMoonwalker88]

i hate love, lol. its a heartbreaker and it destroys who you are inside

[His confessions]

I think you can find true love if you really look for it...... I mean you're not gonna go around looking for a new love but there's always someone out there who is right for you...... i believe in destiny

[Forever_Mike]

The topic is very interesting but these responses just cracked me up!


Love never lasts...sad but true...so why bother? :lol: Jk


"It is better to have loved a 'short' than never to have loved 'a tall' :D


Love is sometimes being really really very sorry:boohoo:


i hate love, lol. its a heartbreaker and it destroys who you are inside

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

[mjtributepage]

true love is sharing for ever
never having to cry alone
being there to help
heal and nusrse the other
and holding in time of need
supporting no matter what
in short
unconditional
(i see that in my family no body ever divorces eveyone is married for decades and decades through thick and thin and i never saw a fight in my life boy i guess i m lucky)

[His confessions]

I know Michael is true love to me :wub:

[Poefiend]

true love flows freely and without remorse
it captures your heart and makes you live again

[Michaele]

Love knows no boundries.Or so I heard.

[suspicious_mind]

Love and money definately dosent mix.
Being in love was probably the most wonderful a feeling id ever felt. Its just so great to know that someone loves you so much and its just as great to know that you can bring so much happiness and love to someone else...
But having said that love can just be awful at times as well - things can happen and it can rip the heart out of you if you let it.

[SoS]

just as there is no 'fake' diamond, True Love is the only kind of Love there is


Either it is Love, or it is something that looks like love

[summer]

True love....I think true love pretty much is feeling very "safe" and comfortable with another person....wanting to be with that person...missing that person when they're not around...accepting each other with flaws and all....wanting to hear what the other one thinks about different things...Just feeling very comfortable and safe with each other and wanting to be there for each other through good and bad times...

At least that's what I imagine "true love" to be. You know...when you meet someone and you get the feeling that person totally "gets you"....They understand you, they listen to what you say, they accept you the way youy are and don't judge you or try to change you all the time...You know, you just feel very "comfortable" with the other person. You can trust the other person, you know that they won't share your personal "secrets" with others, they won't laugh at you...you feel like you can tell anything to each other....And you are both attracted to each other...there's a great "chemistry", etc. etc. Oh...and most importantly...the feeling is MUTUAL!!! :unsure: (It sucks when you find the "right one"...and then he isn't interested in you...That sucks!!! :boohoo: ) And you can't buy love, so true love has nothing to do with money.

I do believe in "true love"....but I think I am slowly giving up hope though...:toofunny: I always say, with my luck, I'll get married when I'm 80 and dying! :huh: :toofunny:

[SoS]

well that's a good thing cause :( that's when you need someone the most

[Femkela]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7WEJn_VAaw
:D

[summer]

well that's a good thing cause :( that's when you need someone the most

Aren't you an optimist! :toofunny: :toofunny:

Yeah, as they say..."better late than never"... :toofunny: But I'd still rather meet "the one" a BIT earlier...like...when I am still able to have kids! :toofunny:

[mjtributepage]

well i m a bit different (or abnormal)compared to most of you guys
i m like in my early 40th and never even felt buterflies so i cannot judge on any this
i know the perfect love does exist though cause my parents and aunts and uncles all have it staying together forever through anything and still hold hands in their 70 th i nevr even saw any of them fight so i sure have had the perfet rolmodel in love
but when it comes to my true love:
the only pple i love close to me are my parents and my sun :wub:
(and the pple on the net i know and mj but i m talking about close to me lol)

[suspicious_mind]

Im not sure even now i know what true love is - but i know what it isnt. I know that when i find the right person he isnt gonna make me feel bad at all. He isnt gonna talk down to me and make me feel worthless and useless. I shouldve known better than to love someone that made me feel that way even for one day. Oh well....live and learn. Im better for it because it taught me to raise my standards for myself. I deserve better than to be treated that way. And now i finally realize it.

[Femkela]

Im not sure even now i know what true love is - but i know what it isnt. I know that when i find the right person he isnt gonna make me feel bad at all. He isnt gonna talk down to me and make me feel worthless and useless. I shouldve known better than to love someone that made me feel that way even for one day. Oh well....live and learn. Im better for it because it taught me to raise my standards for myself. I deserve better than to be treated that way. And now i finally realize it.

That's awful that someone treated you bad! That indeed isn't true love and I am happy that you do realize that! That person really didn't deserve you. Your true love is going to make you feel very good and treat you well! And don't worry about whether or not someone might be your true love, this grows over time. It did with me and my true love anyway. : - )

[Ape]

Love is sometimes being really really very sorry:boohoo:I agree.

I think that true love will never want to hurt you nor you hurt them. You have the ability to make each other feel better just by being together. When things go bad, the first person you think of to talk to is your love and you still get butterflies thinking of them 10 years after you meet. You think of kind things you can do for each other and it is never a one way street. You support each other in your endeavors and want to see each other succeed. You think about the others feelings in your actions so that you avoid inadvertently hurting the other, and if by some mistake you do hurt them, you are hurt as badly until you can right whatever hurt them. You want to see the best for each other and you want to see each other happy. You enjoy each others company but don't have to be in each others company to know you are loved. You have no problems showing your love for each other. You can work together to make your lives happier. You cannot bear the thought of losing them. You would be proud to be their spouse and proud to be with them anywhere. You think that you are the luckiest person around to have found each other. You wonder how you were able to find someone who knows you so well, who you can tell anything and everything to, and they can do the same back, and still know they will love you despite anything you could tell them. You feel like the more they know about you, the more they love you, and vise versa, and it brings a great comfort. You can be the weirdest you that there is and they find it wonderful instead of odd. You can leave each other for a time, but nothing can keep you apart....you keep coming back to each other. They make you want to live till you are 120 as long as they are with you and you know they will be if they are able. You know that if they hurt you, they would do anything they can to fix it, and you would do the same in return. You can feel each other somehow... and bring peace to each other. Most importantly, all the love you give out, is given back to you in return.


Guess I could go on but that's a few things I would like to add.

[Poefiend]

True Love does not have to question

[Lorraine]

True love doesn't have a happy ending, because true love never ends. Letting go is one way of saying I love you.

:)

[Sdeidjs]

True Love + Best Friends = Soulmate

Soulmate = is used to designate someone with whom one has a feeling of deep and natural affinity, friendship, love, intimacy, sexuality, spirituality and/or compatibility. A related concept is that of the twin flame or twin soul – which is thought to be the ultimate soulmate, the one and only other half of one's soul, for which all souls are driven to find and join. (Websters)

Best Friends = accept you for you and never tries to change you into something or someone your not, one is there for you in good times and bad & never wants/needs anything in return.

True Love = Pure, Genuine, Absolute, Respectful, Supportive, Faithful, Loyal, and Committed.

I could go on...but I think you understand my point (s) on what True Love means to me...


Back in 1993 I wrote a Reflection of Thought about 2 of my Best Friends in the whole wide world...I will look for it, and post it for all who are interested...


Heal The World~~~"Education Is The Key"

[TialovesMJ]

Love can suck sometimes..

[wendijane]

aww cute thread linda . a agreee with most posts . imo, love means finding your soul mate. he/shes out there .jus have to find him/her :wub:

[cinderella]

True love doesn't have a happy ending, because true love never ends. Letting go is one way of saying I love you.

:)


beautiful.....

Yeah... I do believe in true Love


' ....Love is patient, love is kind. It is not jealous, (love) is not pompous, it is not inflated,

it is not rude, it does not seek its own interests, it is not quick-tempered, it does not brood over injury,

it does not rejoice over wrongdoing but rejoices with the truth.

It bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.

Love never fails....'
(1 Corinthians chapter 13)

Only when is rooted in God will it last forever:yes:
and ever...

[Ape]

Love means it is a given that you are forgiven, but also that you don't even want to do something where you'd have to be forgiven.

[Sdeidjs]

beautiful.....

Yeah... I do believe in true Love


' ....Love is patient, love is kind. It is not jealous, (love) is not pompous, it is not inflated,

it is not rude, it does not seek its own interests, it is not quick-tempered, it does not brood over injury,

it does not rejoice over wrongdoing but rejoices with the truth.

It bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.

Love never fails....'
(1 Corinthians chapter 13)

Only when is rooted in God will it last forever:yes:
and ever...

Smiles~~~~~

[Lisha]

:popcorn:

[Pua]

It's a timeless love that never ends whether you are together or apart, that person becomes part of your soul; it's honesty, loyalty, trust, your best friend; it's unspoken words, you can look at that person and know their thoughts and feel what's in their heart; it's an unbroken connection, a kindred spirit; it's someone who can make your heart sing.

[Pua]

Do you think we only get one true love in a lifetime?

[Ape]

If that?...

There is lots of real true love, like friendship, or love between family members and children, but the ONE true love.... I don't think we all get even one. Sometimes none... but I could certainly be wrong.

[SoS]

True love doesn't have a happy ending, because true love never ends. Letting go is one way of saying I love you.

:)
:clapping: :yes: :cheeky:

:yes:

:)

[Lisha]

:popcorn:

[wowo]

interesting topic

true love is the heart first. not morality.
ask what your heart want, then insist what you want---at that time(the insisting process) morality would take effort, such as chasing with a proper way, acceptinng win or fail with a proper attitude, etc. one word: follow your heart in a proper = morality.
be watchful, all is based on "heart".

you can't deceieve yourself.
heart, emotion, love... all these are the most treature given by GOD with huge energy. if you didn't work in a proper way such as coward, self-cheat... it would turn into the sharpest sword under your chest.



for example,
a feeble people who is accustomed to rely on others whatever the spirit or the material, when he/she fall in love, and love so deep(it also mean he/she rely on deeperly), that is so-called true-love; when he/she was abandoned, he/she died soon, that's an example "die of heartbroken".

a strong people also fall in love and meet the emotion tragedy in his/her life, but he/she try his/her best transfered it into useful stuffs, including enhance himself, make himself progress... finally 1)he got more chance to heal himself and meet the new love; 2)he might die of heartbroken, but, compared with the former example, the latter is GOD's favor.

however if we meet emotion difficulties, the first thing is to save ourselves. life is the most rare stuff given by GOD. don't wait and waste it.
i do trust true love, but i never agree some people use "true love" as a cloak to be a feeble person, and finally give this "feeble true love" a holy judgement. this concept do kill a lot people, especially the sentimental people trend to forgive themself with such a cloak, it's dangerous, very dangerous, it might kill themselves later.



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oh that's it, that's why i feel worry and reply this thread:



About my dreams.. As you know.. they became true... so often..

Shortly:
I have a pen pal around 2,5 years, we shared with each other everything, bad or good times.. Wrote to each other a few times a week..
I know he had a long distance relationship with some girl, they saw each other not often, just used net/cell phone..
He sounded so happy all those years...

Once, suddenly, I had a dream about him ( around half year ago ) that his girlfriend left him, after some time he got injured badly at his work and spent a few months in the hospital, after that he is died :(

That dream shocked me at first. Of course, I didn't tell him about it, just said to be very careful at work.

The dream became true?
After a some time I had this dream, he wrote to me and told me that his girlfriend left him, she found someone else...
I did my best to support him.. He sounded hopeful and refreshed, positive again.

So, the first part of that dream became true :(

Now.. the worse..
I didn't hear from that guy from.. April...
He didn't pick up/open even e-cards ( if he would, i would receive notification ).. It's mean he is not online.. Why?
I even afraid to think about the other part of that dream :(
I can't search on him, cuz even don't know his real name ( it's online stuff, you know.. nicknames.. )


ladies and gentlemen, stand up
fight for yourself, with a proper way. a better tomorrow is waiting... :D:P

[SoS]

more and more it seems that when someone says, 'i love you' , what they mean is, I want you to love me

[Pua]

^^interesting perspective, I would have to agree somewhat

[Sdeidjs]

True Love + Best Friends = Soulmate

Soulmate = is used to designate someone with whom one has a feeling of deep and natural affinity, friendship, love, intimacy, sexuality, spirituality and/or compatibility. A related concept is that of the twin flame or twin soul – which is thought to be the ultimate soulmate, the one and only other half of one's soul, for which all souls are driven to find and join. (Websters)

Best Friends = accept you for you and never tries to change you into something or someone your not, one is there for you in good times and bad & never wants/needs anything in return.

True Love = Pure, Genuine, Absolute, Respectful, Supportive, Faithful, Loyal, and Committed.

I could go on...but I think you understand my point (s) on what True Love means to me...


Back in 1993 I wrote a Reflection of Thought about 2 of my Best Friends in the whole wide world...I will look for it, and post it for all who are interested...


Heal The World~~~"Education Is The Key"

As promised here you go....


“The difference between a best friend and an acquaintance varies to the point of no return.

“BEST OF FRIENDS”

Although most of us call an acquaintance a friend but in reality they are simply a person that one occasionally may see or have a conversation with. They are never there for us in our times of trouble or need, nor are they there to share in the happiness and sadness that life sometimes bring to us. Some are a so called friend to another for the sole purpose of status, monetary reasons, or to take advantage of certain situations for personal gain. For whatever their reasons are, they are like two ships passing in the night. In the end, only a “best friend” can give us the comfort of true love, trust, and devotion.

Best friends are like twins that are never separate. Sometimes in body they have to be, however, their spirit will always remain connected to the inner being that all of us possess. Best friends come to us for all sorts of reasons. We never really understand exactly why destiny has brought us together but the Divine always seems to make the right choices for us.

A best friend can come to us at anytime or anyplace on our journey through life. They are always someone that our personalities connect to. They can be someone we met through school, work, a community function or even a family member. Best friends always accept us for whom we are and never try to change us into something or someone we are not. They are always there for us in our time of need, they give us guidance, they support us in our goals, and they encourage in our dreams. A true best friend is more precious than any amount of gold.

It takes many lives to find and hold onto that beautiful creation from nature’s earth. As we achieve the love and understanding that “best friends” possess; never jeopardize that trust, for without it, we have nothing…

By:
Suzanne M. (Susie) Deeds
Journal of Reflections & Thoughts II
© 1994

[Ape]

^ That was really beautiful :) :hug:

[Sdeidjs]

^ That was really beautiful :) :hug:

Thank You for you kind words...

[Poefiend]

^ That was very Nice Sdeidjs ty for sharing it :)

[SoS]

^ totally, yes Sdeidjs thanks for sharing that, very nice indeed :yes:

[Sdeidjs]

^ That was very Nice Sdeidjs ty for sharing it :)

Your very welcome...Thank You

[Sdeidjs]

^ totally, yes Sdeidjs thanks for sharing that, very nice indeed :yes:

Your are very welcome...Thank You!

[wendijane]

i enjoyed it too :wub:

[Poefiend]

True Love conquers all. Or does it? :unsure:

[Pua]

^^If you find it and that's what you want, to conquer it all, yes anythings possible.

[Ape]

*sigh* (very deep, and wishful one...you can add some corny in there too if you wish)

I wanna have a true love :( :wub: boy.... this song, this thread, some other threads..... it all really causes a deep yearning doesn't it. To have the thing that is missing, lacking. Easier to not think about it sometimes.

[JMoonwalker88]

i believe in true love, but in order to find it you have to go through a tough journey and heart ache. its out there.

[Lerson_MJJ]

good that this spectacular photo

[Sdeidjs]

i enjoyed it too :wub:

Thank You...

[Sdeidjs]

True Love conquers all. Or does it? :unsure:

PSALM 37 OF DAVID.

1. Do not fret because of evil men
or be envious of those who do wrong;

2. for like the grass they will soon wither,
like green plants they will soon die away.

3. Trust in the LORD and do good;
dwell in the land and enjoy safe pasture.

4. Delight yourself in the LORD and he will
give you the desires of your heart.

5. Commit your way to the LORD;
trust in him and he will do this:

6. He will make your righteousness shine like the dawn,
the justice of your cause like the noonday sun.

7. Be still before the LORD and wait patiently for him;
do not fret when men succeed in their ways,
when they carry out their wicked schemes.

8. Refrain from anger and turn from wrath;
do not fret—it leads only to evil.

9. For evil men will be cut off,
but those who hope in the LORD will inherit the land.

10. A little while, and the wicked will be no more;
though you look for them, they will not be found.

11. But the meek will inherit the land
and enjoy great peace.

12. The wicked plot against the righteous
and gnash their teeth at them;

13. but the Lord laughs at the wicked,
for he knows their day is coming.

14. The wicked draw the sword
and bend the bow to bring down the poor and needy,
to slay those whose ways are upright.

15. But their swords will pierce their own hearts,
and their bows will be broken.

16. Better the little that the righteous have
than the wealth of many wicked;

17. for the power of the wicked will be broken,
but the LORD upholds the righteous.

18. The days of the blameless are known to the LORD,
and their inheritance will endure forever.

19. In times of disaster they will not wither;
in days of famine they will enjoy plenty.

20. But the wicked will perish:
The LORD's enemies will be like the beauty of the fields,
they will vanish—vanish like smoke.

21. The wicked borrow and do not repay,
but the righteous give generously;

22. those the LORD blesses will inherit the land,
but those he curses will be cut off.

23. If the LORD delights in a man's way,
he makes his steps firm;

24. though he stumble, he will not fall,
for the LORD upholds him with his hand.

25. I was young and now I am old,
yet I have never seen the righteous forsaken
or their children begging bread.

26. They are always generous and lend freely;
their children will be blessed.

27. Turn from evil and do good;
then you will dwell in the land forever.

28. For the LORD loves the just
and will not forsake his faithful ones.
They will be protected forever,
but the offspring of the wicked will be cut off;

29. the righteous will inherit the land
and dwell in it forever.

30. The mouth of the righteous man utters wisdom,
and his tongue speaks what is just.

31. The law of his God is in his heart;
his feet do not slip.

32. The wicked lie in wait for the righteous,
seeking their very lives;

33. but the LORD will not leave them in their power
or let them be condemned when brought to trial.

34. Wait for the LORD and keep his way.
He will exalt you to inherit the land;
when the wicked are cut off, you will see it.

35. I have seen a wicked and ruthless man
flourishing like a green tree in its native soil,

36. but he soon passed away and was no more;
though I looked for him, he could not be found.

37. Consider the blameless, observe the upright;
there is a future for the man of peace.

38. But all sinners will be destroyed;
the future of the wicked will be cut off.

39. The salvation of the righteous comes from the LORD;
he is their stronghold in time of trouble.

40. The LORD helps them and delivers them;
he delivers them from the wicked and saves them,
because they take refuge in him.

Beliefnet.com

[SoS]

Its all a very 'funny' thing, perceptions of love and all. :unsure:





Desederata, the old text found in a church in the 1600s says,





"...and neither be cynical about love, for in the face of all arridity and disenchantment, it is as perrenial as the grass"





It becomes very challenging not to be cynical about love after we love so purely from our hearts in our youth and with all innocence want to extend ourselves from the heart toward people who wind up acting like they could care less about us. We are simply showing them natural affection and they show us unnatural rejection.





Then we inadvertantly do things that make others who extend love toward us, feel as though we could care less about them. We may have mistakenly associated love with fear, summizing that the more purely we love someone, the more devestating the pain will inevitably be, or sometimes its shame, eg., if we realize someone has a great sense of us from the outside, afraid to give them a closer look at the inside for fear they may change their mind, or sometimes just pain eg., "hurting people hurt people", usually unintentionally.





I do believe True Love doesn't die because God is Love and whomever and whatever God has joined together in Spirit, in Love, nothing can put asunder.





Love conquors all because love is really All That Is.





but let's say you know that I love you and let's say you know because you know it, like its something your consciousness is keenly aware of - knowing it in that sense,





and say you approach me and I don't seem quite myself in responding to you, more than likely its probably because I'm not myself right then.





Maybe something threw me off my center, my sense of myself. When we're not loving ourselves we can't love anyone else. That doesn't mean "I don't love you". Sometimes it means I can't love you until I can love me again. By the time I get around to forgiving myself or having compassion for myself you may be gone, disenchanted with what you may have understandably perceived as rejection or sense of loss, but in reality it doesn't mean that my heart isn't with you in every step you take and in a constant prayer of Love toward you.





It means that my heart is broken and and to bring you this broken - thing - is something I don't feel would serve you in any way. I feel peoples' self image at a given time has a lot to do with how they show love, or if they do or not at a given time.





Love hopes all things, Love believes all things, Love never fails and that's because God is Love





That's what I truly believe about True Love :) :yes:

:2cents: :yawn:

[Poefiend]

PSALM 37 OF DAVID.

1. Do not fret because of evil men
or be envious of those who do wrong;

2. for like the grass they will soon wither,
like green plants they will soon die away.

3. Trust in the LORD and do good;
dwell in the land and enjoy safe pasture.

4. Delight yourself in the LORD and he will
give you the desires of your heart.

5. Commit your way to the LORD;
trust in him and he will do this:

6. He will make your righteousness shine like the dawn,
the justice of your cause like the noonday sun.

7. Be still before the LORD and wait patiently for him;
do not fret when men succeed in their ways,
when they carry out their wicked schemes.

8. Refrain from anger and turn from wrath;
do not fret—it leads only to evil.

9. For evil men will be cut off,
but those who hope in the LORD will inherit the land.

10. A little while, and the wicked will be no more;
though you look for them, they will not be found.

11. But the meek will inherit the land
and enjoy great peace.

12. The wicked plot against the righteous
and gnash their teeth at them;

13. but the Lord laughs at the wicked,
for he knows their day is coming.

14. The wicked draw the sword
and bend the bow to bring down the poor and needy,
to slay those whose ways are upright.

15. But their swords will pierce their own hearts,
and their bows will be broken.

16. Better the little that the righteous have
than the wealth of many wicked;

17. for the power of the wicked will be broken,
but the LORD upholds the righteous.

18. The days of the blameless are known to the LORD,
and their inheritance will endure forever.

19. In times of disaster they will not wither;
in days of famine they will enjoy plenty.

20. But the wicked will perish:
The LORD's enemies will be like the beauty of the fields,
they will vanish—vanish like smoke.

21. The wicked borrow and do not repay,
but the righteous give generously;

22. those the LORD blesses will inherit the land,
but those he curses will be cut off.

23. If the LORD delights in a man's way,
he makes his steps firm;

24. though he stumble, he will not fall,
for the LORD upholds him with his hand.

25. I was young and now I am old,
yet I have never seen the righteous forsaken
or their children begging bread.

26. They are always generous and lend freely;
their children will be blessed.

27. Turn from evil and do good;
then you will dwell in the land forever.

28. For the LORD loves the just
and will not forsake his faithful ones.
They will be protected forever,
but the offspring of the wicked will be cut off;

29. the righteous will inherit the land
and dwell in it forever.

30. The mouth of the righteous man utters wisdom,
and his tongue speaks what is just.

31. The law of his God is in his heart;
his feet do not slip.

32. The wicked lie in wait for the righteous,
seeking their very lives;

33. but the LORD will not leave them in their power
or let them be condemned when brought to trial.

34. Wait for the LORD and keep his way.
He will exalt you to inherit the land;
when the wicked are cut off, you will see it.

35. I have seen a wicked and ruthless man
flourishing like a green tree in its native soil,

36. but he soon passed away and was no more;
though I looked for him, he could not be found.

37. Consider the blameless, observe the upright;
there is a future for the man of peace.

38. But all sinners will be destroyed;
the future of the wicked will be cut off.

39. The salvation of the righteous comes from the LORD;
he is their stronghold in time of trouble.

40. The LORD helps them and delivers them;
he delivers them from the wicked and saves them,
because they take refuge in him.

Beliefnet.com

this is one of my fave Psalms. :) my question of or is it was meant for others to give their thoughts? I believe in Love and True Love when you find it. Keep it.

[Sdeidjs]

this is one of my fave Psalms. :) my question of or is it was meant for others to give their thoughts? I believe in Love and True Love when you find it. Keep it.

The only logical answer to the question you/many seek...

"Truth of Justice Nothing Is Black or White" shares with the world my personal experiences since 1991 through daily faxes, snail mail, the "Prodigy" internet, and the telephone with MJJ Productions, Bob Jones, Team Michael and a man that as our deep friendship grew revealed his name was Michael. It doesn't matter if people think this Michael was/is Mr.Jackson or not, I know what I experienced and have no idea, no explanation why I made copies of eveything back then, I just did.

When the False Allegations hit the air ways in 1993 something, someone, God told me something was so "terribly wrong"...Mr. Jackson truly needed assistance/outside intervention. If someone would not have stepped up to the plate and helped, I believe WE would not have him here with us today. I felt that if I could have helped in ANY way and didn't, I would have NEVER been able to forgive myself.

All I have ever cared about is helping others whoever they may be, if there is just one person that I can help, then I know I making a difference. Mr.Jackson has been given a gift, and with that gift he has continued to always help others, I felt he needed to know "how much" WE needed him then, We need him now, and WE need him in the future.

I believe everything happens for a reason...each and everyone of us have a purpose in life...its up to the individual to recognize what that purpose is, take the initiative, and implement it..!

In the end, all that truly matters is that Mr.Jackson is safe, healthy, and happy...Peace Be With You Always...the eyes of an Angel will always be watching...

Heal The World~~~"Education Is The Key"

[Lorraine]

sings......... and they called it puppy loveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee oh I guess they'll never know la la la la...............................

[Poefiend]

Loving someone for them and them alone
and even putting up with their irritating traits
if they have any?
I think if you have to question it? Its NOT True Love.

[Lisha]

:popcorn:

[Pua]

Loving someone for them and them alone
and even putting up with their irritating traits
if they have any?
I think if you have to question it? Its NOT True Love.


I completely agree

[Ape]

^but sometimes it takes a while to know that they feel the same back, so you may question whether they feel the same way. You might not question your own feelings, but till they tell you or let you know back, there can be a questioning.

[Lorraine]

^ :yes: :clapping:

[Poefiend]

I meant when both are mutual......then there shouldnt be any questions....

[Ape]

Oh :) thank you for clarifying that. Yes I could see that being true.

[Lisha]

:popcorn:

[SoS]

That's very deep perception. It seems you have been good in the past at self-discovery and understanding. I think what you've described is something that does commonly happen in love relationships.

Thanks for sharing it, SoS. :)
aw thanks, its a very important topic for obvious reasons and so important to me to distinguish, because just as something can look like love and actually be fascination, attraction, infatuation, all of which can be fragile when challenged to accept a person's pure humanity, including their foibles, there can also be things that look like 'not love' such as when children interrupt us to play at a most critical moment of business dealings or want to bounce on our heads when we have a headache. Its important to me because sometimes we interpret what looks like 'not love' as not love when it can be the opposite. I feel true love speaks for itself and the Spirit bears Witness to it in the end.

[Sdeidjs]

Loving someone for them and them alone
and even putting up with their irritating traits
if they have any?
I think if you have to question it? Its NOT True Love.

True Love is unconditional...irritating traits and all...

Abusive relationships Mentally and or Physically is totally unacceptable!

[SoS]

True Love is unconditional...irritating traits and all...

Abusive relationships Mentally and or Physically is totally unacceptable!

:scratch:do tell

and yet it... seems so .... :unsure:

......... random?

:lol: sorry

but just seems so ... :unsure:

so random :rofl:

[Poefiend]

:huh:..........

[SoS]

^ what abuse just seemed to come so out of nowhere

:lol: like i said, sorry, I'm silly its late, just winding down, don't mind me :agree:

[Poefiend]

Love is real, real is love
Love is feeling, feeling love
Love is wanting to be loved

Love is touch, touch is love
Love is reaching, reaching love
Love is asking to be loved


Love is you
You and me
Love is knowing
We can be

Love is free, free is love
Love is living, living love
Love is needing to be loved

John Lennon- Love

[Ape]

awww :wub: you just reminded me of a very special to me person and a special time with posting that. I need to listen now.

[Poefiend]

:).........

[Pua]

True Love is unconditional...irritating traits and all...

Abusive relationships Mentally and or Physically is totally unacceptable!

True love is unconditional, irritating traits and all...but I think those irritating traits may be leaving the toilet seat up, snoring so loud they keep you awake, not putting the cap back on the toothpaste....

Abusive relationships have nothing to do with love or true love. Abusers are selfish, cowards, punks and manipulators. They knock your self esteem so low you lose yourself in their controlling....that is not love nor will it ever be, it's pure evil. I'm truely sorry that you had to experience that but as far as I'm concerned if someone puts hands on you or mentally abuses you, they do not love you, love exists nowhere in that type of relationship.

True love is unconditional, irritating traits and all.....

[Ape]

Is she doing better now? I guess she must be but I know it takes it's toll for a long time. :(

[Poefiend]

Nobody deserves to be abused.....thats sad :no:

[Pua]

^^yes she is Ape thanks for asking:), it finally ended about 2 years ago.

[Ape]

:) sometimes it takes courage to leave (as strange as it sounds, you would think it would be the other way around) Glad she was able to.

[SoS]

True love is unconditional, irritating traits and all...but I think those irritating traits may be leaving the toilet seat up, snoring so loud they keep you awake, not putting the cap back on the toothpaste....

Abusive relationships have nothing to do with love or true love. Abusers are selfish, cowards, punks and manipulators. They knock your self esteem so low you lose yourself in their controlling. I have stories trust that I've experienced it with my sister and her 7 year relationship with this trash that finally ended when she showed up on my doorstep with a broken eyesocket, cheekbone and jaw...that is not love nor will it ever be, it's pure evil. I'm truely sorry that you had to experience that but as far as I'm concerned if someone puts hands on you or mentally abuses you, they do not love you, love exists nowhere in that type of relationship.

True love is unconditional, irritating traits and all.....
oh! :doh:

:omaybe that's why it was so random

:( sorry for being insensitive

:no: no nobody deserves to be treated like that

:unsure: how come I didn't get that?


*goes off to examine self*

[Poefiend]

for shame! go to your room! :angry:

[SoS]

*sits in time out chair and stairs at corner of wall*




:timer:

[Poefiend]

LOL you get ten minutes.......

[SoS]

:blush: bbl folks

[Poefiend]

bye SoS ......

[Sdeidjs]

:scratch:do tell

and yet it... seems so .... :unsure:

......... random?

:lol: sorry

but just seems so ... :unsure:

so random :rofl:

I deeply apoligize if I confused anyone...I was just refering to when there is true love we accept our mate unconditionally...annoying traits and all...

I brought up the mental & verbal abuse deal because if there is mental, verbal, and or physical abuse in a so called true love relationship...its NOT True Love...When two people are in love/have a true love relationship they treat each other with the utmost respect and admiration...as a King & as a Queen would mutually adore each other...


Heal The World~~~"Education Is The Key"

[SoS]

ohhhhh okay so basically you were just agreeing. Ok well *sits back and sighs* I'm not as insensitive as I thought (whispers:)
I have a little history with being that way :better: so just tryyn ta be careful

It was a tad random but now I see what you meant :yes: and thanks for coming back to explain that :)

[Poefiend]

Hmm :brow:

[SoS]

^ :lol:



This means the door to the time out room can be propped open :yes:

for me at least

I don't know 'bout the rest of y'all *runs out of thread*

[Poefiend]

see ya! ..........

[Sdeidjs]

ohhhhh okay so basically you were just agreeing. Ok well *sits back and sighs* I'm not as insensitive as I thought (whispers:)
I have a little history with being that way :better: so just tryyn ta be careful

It was a tad random but now I see what you meant :yes: and thanks for coming back to explain that :)


Glad I helped you understand...Your Very Welcome...

[PoP]

I know true love when I see one. Like if I see a couple kissing I'd be "Awwww!" and I would...I would...(sob), sorry.:boohoo I would cry to see this lovely moment.:boohoo. Love is Faith, Faith is Love.

[Lisha]

:popcorn:

[Ape]

How about this for food for thought.
TRUE love.. is love for all. Love for humanity.

[Lisha]

:popcorn:

[Ape]

That is something to mull over. I'll have to read it again once I have more time later on tonight. I really like your last line there. The rest I don't think I'd ever thought of it that way before. :) Thank you for giving me new perspective.

[The One.]

I have never experienced true love by myself.
But I believe there is a perfect boy for me somewhere and someday we will find each other. I want to believe so.

But when you really start to think about love, it's very strange feeling..

Where does it come, actually?
Why do we feel so deep love to some people, but not all?
What is love?

[Ape]

Someone sent this blog for me to look at and I wanted to share it with you guys. It's really cool and about Love.

http://nightwisher.glogster.com/Danny-----not-done-yet

[wowo]

sometimes the existence of ture love is only for such a moment:

at the moment you woke up in the deepest darkness with panic, you know you were walking to the death alone longly... at the moment you think of there was someone, would decay accompanying your decaying, body & soul, wherever you would go to heaven or hell...
you calmed down, warm again, fell into sleep once more.

love raised us from a abyss nobody can escape out of it.



such a place can be filled with only true love, because...
1）if a people love money/fame more than you, how can you expect he/she "decayed accompanying your decaying"?
2）if you own wasn't in love, how can you trust others if you can't trust youself(to do such a extreme thing "decay accompanying your decaying"), how can you trust the other would do it for you if you can't do yourself?

so,
the mutual emotion is a necessay condition for passing such a extreme test.
the mutual & equal weight of emotion should be invovled in true love as the most important base.




----------
and,
not to be jealous is not called "true love".
no.
never.
on the contrary, to be jealous is a important proof of "indeed in love".

to overcome the over-done jealousy, to tranfer the negative energy(in jealousy) into a active direction such as make yourself progress, to win your right in proper way including expressing your jealousy in a appropriate way... would match the "true love", make the love go forward in a morality, make it more true & firm, it's the key of success.



to force ourselves not to be jealous doesn't match the human nature.
sometimes we were asked to betray the human nature to match some so-called "morality"...
i never think such a so-called morality is a true morality.
i never think those stuff that betrayed human nature can be morality.

no

only when human nature was fulfiled in a proper way, we called it morality.
yes, according above, we can say "to be jealous in a appropriate is some kind of morality including the courage such as you showed others your fetal part, including honest... etc."
all the human nature work the same way.

that's why i love "true love"-----it made people check again the inner, check again the morality they had accepted as common sense---even the slightest distort of human nature can't be hiden in the name of morality while facing the "true love"



ture love is a living bible, showed us the most delicated & deepest human nature given by GOD.
if you had ever been in love, it help you understand this mundane world so much, so deep. even though most time it's so sad that most people reap the largest & deepest gray understanding(of this world) in his/her life.
not much love work in a proper way, that's why people met the large gray.
whatever fail or win, only when your love work in a proper way, you can reap the brightest color(it can balance the gray part).

only love is not enough, we need a proper way to make it(love) better.
the better love make this world brighter.
the sad love make us losing the desire of growing(there are tons of example that the "happy-ending-like love" went forward to a broken family...)

a proper way asked for a lot good character such as courage, honesty, creative opinions...
a good guy was led to the proper way by his good character, found his happiness & peace finally... all ascribe to himself!! yes guys, you can do!! you are the owner of your fate.

:D:D

[friend]

as tina says, its a sweet old fashioned notion

[ForeverBeInPeaceMichael]

True Love is the most precious and beautiful thing in the whole world :heart: but im sure if i express my own idea/opinion u will all wheather tease me or call em a freak, so i rather not to.


:-/

[TialovesMJ]

^^ I think you should share your thoughtS :)..

[SoS]

True love speaks for itself. It may involve mystery from the human perspective and stops, starts, twists and turns, and yet, at the end of the day, it is ... what it is.

[Poefiend]

True Love doesnt need to be questioned.......
nor analyzed nor thought upon it just IS

[Pua]

Do you think everyone gets one true love in their lifetime?

[Poefiend]

I dont know Pua Ill let you know when I find it? :lol: :unsure:

[Pua]

^^Ok thanks Poe :flowers:

:lol:

[Poefiend]

sure thing :lol:

[Poefiend]

True love is a treasure.....you just need the right map! :lol:

[ForeverBeInPeaceMichael]

True love cant be described because its a feeling not a thought.
True love comes from and lives in heart not mind.
True love is to be felt not understood.
and True Love is different for each persons. it has its own meaning, shape, phrase and etc for each which may seem weird or silly to others.




^^ I think you should share your thoughtS :)..

:) but i still rather not say what my true love looks like

[summer]

True love....I'm not sure I should really share any of my feelings about LOVE right now...because I'm not sure I even BELIEVE in love anymore at the moment...:( :lol: True love is probably as rare as a jackpot in the lottery. At least so it seems to me right now. Ain't that sad. :boohoo: I know true love exists (my parents were an example)...but for some reason love doesn't seem to be very fond of me? :scratch: :lol: Either that.... or Cupid is a damn poor shooter and keeps shooting 'em arrows into all the wrong places. :huh: :toofunny: :toofunny:

[Sdeidjs]

True love....I'm not sure I should really share any of my feelings about LOVE right now...because I'm not sure I even BELIEVE in love anymore at the moment...:( :lol: True love is probably as rare as a jackpot in the lottery. At least so it seems to me right now. Ain't that sad. :boohoo: I know true love exists (my parents were an example)...but for some reason love doesn't seem to be very fond of me? :scratch: :lol: Either that.... or Cupid is a damn poor shooter and keeps shooting 'em arrows into all the wrong places. :huh: :toofunny: :toofunny:

Your true love will come to you when you least expect it...

Smiles~~~

HEAL THE WORLD~~~"Education Is The Key"

[TialovesMJ]

True love....I'm not sure I should really share any of my feelings about LOVE right now...because I'm not sure I even BELIEVE in love anymore at the moment...:( :lol: True love is probably as rare as a jackpot in the lottery. At least so it seems to me right now. Ain't that sad. :boohoo: I know true love exists (my parents were an example)...but for some reason love doesn't seem to be very fond of me? :scratch: :lol: Either that.... or Cupid is a damn poor shooter and keeps shooting 'em arrows into all the wrong places. :huh: :toofunny: :toofunny:


hah I feel the same way!!!

[FUJON]

True Love -->True devotion

[summer]

F**k love.... :(

:lol:

[J5baby]

it hasn't hit me yet......hasn't even taken a swing:no:

[Pua]

You can't create magic and will never find true love unless you are happy and at peace with yourself first.

[Ape]

OK, I am happy and at peace finally, now what? lol Should I expect a knock on the door soon? :P just teasing.

[ForeverBeInPeaceMichael]

True Love is not blind
True Love is to know ur beloved's weakness, bad points, good points faults, and adore them all. to accept the person wholly. it doesn't blind u to the faults or weakness. u see them all and love them because u LOVE that person!

[Michaele]

it's something that happens to other people.

[Sdeidjs]

True Love -->True devotion

Now THAT is true love...

Giggles~~~

Love It..!

Heal The World~~~"Education Is The Key"

[SoS]

true love is the real version of false love

[ForeverBeInPeaceMichael]

oh come. that was so unpleasant.

how come u dont believe in true love?

[mjjlover1993]

true love is awsome it hit me 3 years ago and this person is my soul-mate

[Pua]

I asked this question in another post but wanted to also post it here.:)


Have any of you envisioned what your true love would be like? Have you always had a specific type of person in mind? Someone with certain qualities, morals, values, creative, smart, etc...Do you think they need to be your identical match or close to it in most ways or should both bring something different to the relationship so that you can learn off each other? Do you not think of these things and just believe that when the time comes fate will bring that person to you and you'll just know?

[wendy2004]

Hmm....have I envisioned it? Sometimes, but I try not to dwell on it becuz you never know if what you picture is your conscious mind or not. What you envision and what's actually to be could be two different things and then you end up disappointed. So I try to stay open about it.

Funny you should mention this becuz I saw the movie Enchanted recently and it was sorta kinda on this subject and it made me think a bit. Good movie, btw.

I don't think my "true love" has to be identical to me in everything but I do think things will run more smoothly if we at least agree on the fundamentals....the things that are most important to us morally, etc. I think once that's covered and agreed upon, everything else can be as different or varied as possible. And altho I think it would be nice to have someone who was sorta/kinda like my twin (a Kindred spirit) I think it would be awesome if my "twin" was also a bit different than me in some ways and vice versa so that we can teach each other new things. Or we have something to share with each other that one hasn't experienced before.

I believe sometimes differences make things exciting and interesting...even if it's something completely the opposite of me. As long as those differences are tolerable and not an extreme, I think that would be okay. Crossing swords over little things would be fine by me. Little things can be worked out and compromised. I just never want to have to cross swords over the fundamentals. I think that's where a lot of ppl go wrong. They compromise on their fundamentals for the sake of having someone in their lives and then later on they decide they no longer want to compromise...and then it becomes a problem...which generally leads to divorce, etc. Had they stuck to their fundamentals from the beginning, they would have saved themselves a lot of time and heartache, i think.

And I think sometimes you do know when you meet someone or you're talking to them whether they fit the profile of your true love or not. I know instantly whether someone has "potential" to be that one or not when I see them interact or speak or whatever...and as time goes on and I learn more about them, they either start falling out of potential or falling deeper into it. The problem tho is whether YOU fit their profile. Sometimes the answer is no....so even tho they fit the bill for you, you don't fit the bill for them, which means, they weren't the one. And you have to accept it and move on.

My ex is pretty much at the top of my "potential" list, however, we've had one...just ONE...major fundamential issue for the past 6 years. We have no chemistry anymore...at least on my side. Everything else is nearly perfect...unfortunately. He's amazing, everything I could imagine...but there's no heat. :lol: So he's more like a best friend to me now. However, if someday his pheromones awake something within me again...it's going to be on like popcorn...if he's still single, of course. :lol: and IF I haven't already found the one who fits "true love" status 100% and more.

[Stargirl]

true love = stargirl + michael :blush:

lol...wait...mayyybe that leans more on the unrequited side hehe...
oh well...unrequited love is the one that lasts the longest anyway :lol:

[wendy2004]

^^ Unrequited love is a terrible thing. :lol: If it's unrequited, tis definitely not true.

[wendijane]

true love ? meh ..i'd rather go to the pub :dance:
nah ..:lol: .....its ok if your lucky enough to find it i think .

[Poefiend]

True Love Never Dies

[Stargirl]

^^ Unrequited love is a terrible thing. :lol: If it's unrequited, tis definitely not true.


heyyy... unrequited love may be a terrible thing... but its also something that exists EVERYYYWHERE!!!

and of course it's true...just not from both sides.... hehe ;)

[Moddie777]

True Love is an Unselfish love

True Love is when you can not tell the difference of when you end
and your partner begin (because you are 1)

[lil_miss_mj]

True love? Nah. I never want to ever feel that kind of love for another person again.

[Girlygirl]

I think true love is trust :blush:

If there's no trust there can't be true love...never.

It just creates drama and more chaos. :worried: You must start w/trust :give_heart:

[wendijane]

True Love is an Unselfish love

True Love is when you can not tell the difference of when you end
and your partner begin (because you are 1)
This is beautufil :yes:


True love? Nah. I never want to ever feel that kind of love for another person again.

Aww. i know how you feel babe , :better:


I think true love is trust :blush:

If there's no trust there can't be true love...never.

It just creates drama and more chaos. :worried: You must start w/trust :give_heart:
i love this sis , you make it sound so easy :D


love to me , is compppppppppppppppppppplicated :yes::ph34r: *wheresmypoooooehyysmiley* lol

[Ape]

True love = warm, happy, peace, safe, comfort, unconditional, selfless, requited, sincere, real, strong, never ending, trust, care, gentle, passion, caress, hold, embrace, kiss, excite, calm, butterflies, knowing, true, forever, bliss, strong, loyal, upright, honest, understood, accepted, loved, beloved, adore, cherish, tingle, smile, touch, listen, talk, remember, hold close, friend, best friend, forgive, freedom, together, positive, bold, beautiful, brilliant, open, giving, lovely, heaven, divine, always, growth, renewed, support, close, one, we, us, radiant, reach out, enjoy, empathy, tender, profound, intimate, deep, affection, devotion, precious, sweet, romantic, thoughtful, giving, mutual, blessing, God given...and on and on and on...

[wendijane]

True love = warm, happy, peace, safe, comfort, unconditional, selfless, requited, sincere, real, strong, never ending, trust, care, gentle, passion, caress, hold, embrace, kiss, excite, calm, butterflies, knowing, true, forever, bliss, strong, loyal, upright, honest, understood, accepted, loved, beloved, adore, cherish, tingle, smile, touch, listen, talk, remember, hold close, friend, best friend, forgive, freedom, together, positive, bold, beautiful, brilliant, open, giving, lovely, heaven, divine, always, growth, renewed, support, close, one, we, us, radiant, reach out, enjoy, empathy, tender, profound, intimate, deep, affection, devotion, precious, sweet, romantic, thoughtful, giving, mutual, blessing, God given...and on and on and on...

:bugeyed angel :agree: thats one heck of a beautiful arrangement of words ...:mello: took the words out of my mouth *grins*

poohy and squiffy ~thats my input :D


ok , leaves sweet thread .:wild:

[Girlygirl]

i love this sis , you make it sound so easy :D

:blush::give_heart:

[Pua]

True love is pure and natural, not forced.

[lil_miss_mj]

Love is never wrong, and so, it never dies...

[Ape]

Twooo wuv is a bwootifow fing. It shines wike a wainbow up in va bwoo sky:yes:

[Poefiend]

True love stays true not blue :lol:

[Ape]

wike a wainbow :yes: *finks hawd to wemembow if bwoo is in a wainbow*

[Poefiend]

yes tis

[Ape]

wew ven I guess a widdo bwoo is in twoo wuv too :D <3 :wub: (me imagining twoo wub)

[Pua]

True love is when you can see the beauty in someones heart with blind eyes, it's being able to trust someone to hold onto your heart and cherish it as a priceless jewel, the energy between two is magic

[lil_miss_mj]

Love is not love which alters when it alteration finds, or bends with the remover to remove; oh no. It is an ever fixed mark which looks on tempests and is never shaken.

[Lorraine]

Love is when you miss the person you love moments after they leave you.

Love is knowing what that person is feeling or thinking even if they don't say a word.

Love is when the person you loves happiness comes before your own.

Love is when two hearts become one.

[wendijane]

love is................ cheeeeeeeeeesy pasta !:wild:!:wub:

[Pua]

It's an undeniable happiness

[summer]

True love...bah humbug. True love happens to others.

[SoS]

wew ven I guess a widdo bwoo is in twoo wuv too :D <3 :wub: (me imagining twoo wub)aw that's very sweet, and very profound

awwwwww :wub:

that makes a good case for mercy in love

So many ways to look at true love. I tend to feel that in romance it means sharing many of the same neuroses :giggle:

On another note, I recently heard someone say that we don't know true love until we know dissappointment because true love is transformative. Not always the fairy tale perfection but rather an opportunity to grow with someone.

I guess that means true love is sort of like loving your enemies (meaning to me, to always rise above the circumstances) and Jesus did say that if we only love those who love us (which means to me those who do exactly as we desire) then we have no reward.

I have no idea what true love is. It is as it does I guess.

[Ape]

HAHAHA oh myyyyyyy... ever get embarrassed over your own silliness sometimes?

:lol: that was in my typing with a speech impediment day. Or accent or something. *shakes head at myself*

But thank you :blush:

[SoS]

Are you kidding, I felt it was brilliant! :D

Gave me lots of hope here! :dance:

See Summer?! There's hope for you too! :yes: :)

[Ape]

heheheh :D awwwwwwwww thank you! *hugs you tight till you can't breathe* oh..oops, sorry.


True love.... true love is something that I desire... forever....in a more than a friendship way, someday.


btw, you are right SOS.. in it's silliness, it is a profound statement. I wonder who wrote that..lol. How did profoundness come out of me being silly? True love has some blue moments, for sure. But also lots of brilliantly beautiful moments as well, and even the blue moments can be beautiful.

[SoS]

yeah and now that we know that blue is in a rainbow (thanks Poe :) ) then maybe its God's way of saying that everything that makes us blue has a divinely beautiful side to it too :)

hay!

With true love, the sky's the limit:cheers::D:wub::cheeky:

(smotheredcan'tbreathe:wild:) sry, didn't mean to overlook such a tight hug! :D

[Pua]

It's when two souls come together and can just be.......

[summer]

True love is when you stick together through thick and thin and you're willing to compromise and work things out and you're there for each other no matter what, I'd say.

SOS, how is there hope for me? :scratch: :lol: Nah, I'm done with guys and love. Nothing but heartache. It ain't gonna happen so...why keep torturing myself and think it will, only to get disappointed again and again. Not everyone is lucky enough to find true love. Oh well. Life goes on. *shrugs*

[Lily]

It's a passion felt deep within that only this person can bring out of you and no other person could ever take you to.....It's trust and a loyal confidant.....It's a magnetic energy.....It's when you can look at that person and without touching you feel their heartbeat with yours.....It's staring into their eyes and being able to read their thoughts with not a word spoken.......true love is a priceless gift.

[wowo]

True Love... well i have this part. actually...
what i really need is kisses, hugs... more (trampled on the floor, cry loudly)

[Girlygirl]

Love is when the simplest thing can turn into a lasting memory. :blush:

:give_heart:

[Poefiend]

I dont think true love can be defined
because of its various forms and emotions
its sort of never ending? or...I could be wrong? LOL

[Ape]

hmmm... always evolving, so cannot be defined. Sounds about right. Or maybe it is like the discovery of something. At first you think you can define it, describe it, to the last detail, then as you discover more, you throw your first thoughts out and feel maybe foolish for thinking you knew so much... then as you go further, you may be start to see that some of what you initially thought could be true, but it is more than that... and it is eternal, so you never stop discovering it. Sometimes it may seem to change or evolve, but maybe it is just our perception of it that changes. But isn't that what makes it so wonderful? ... and no matter what we do to it, or think about it, it's still there. Even when we turn our back on it.. there it is, still there waiting for us to turn around and face it once again, till we fully embrace it.

Just a thought.


(a side note: I was imagining describing and discovering God, to come up with that^ description/idea. I figure since God is as pure a love as you can find, that to describe true love, you'd have to look to God to really understand it)

[Lily]

^I agree Ape. It is eternal and we discover something new about love and what it truly means every day. :)

[Ape]

I am in LOVEEEEEEEEEE .:wub:...with (the man in my dream..lol... and) LIFE!! Today.

[Lily]

I've actually been thinking about this alot lately.:) I'll be back with my thoughts.....I'm being interrupted at work :bugeyed LOL

In the meantime I'll post these beautiful quotes that I read the other day.:wub:

"True love is night jasmine, a diamond in darkness, the heartbeat no cardiologist has ever heard. It is the most common of miracles, fashioned of fleecy clouds a handful of stars tossed into the night sky."

"True love cannot be found where it truly does not exist, nor can it be hidden where it truly does."

[summer]

True love is amazing when you can find it...but right now...all I can say is:

BAH HUMBUG!!!!


:glare:





:lol:



:timer::timer::timer::timer::timer::timer::timer:

[Lorraine]

LOL Summer.

[Ape]

I still like this thread. :) It's nice.

[8701girl]

True love is when u love the person with your whole heart & soul
And would do anything to protect them no matta what the cost.

And be there 4 each other through the good times and bad times

[Lily]

True love is not a facade one can create in their mind just because of a desire to want, it just is. I believe it's an intellectual, emotional and physical connection with someone where they stimulate your mind, body and soul on ALL levels. The chemistry is natural, not forced. It's a forever love and you just know it from the time you lay eyes on and meet that person that they were destined to be part of your life. The mutual energy between two is magnetic.

I don't believe it's an emotion that should ever be questioned, it is what it is. Kind of like when people keep searching for the good in something that's not truly there. I feel like when you have to seek to find something there's no truth or sincerity to it. Some things are just apparent and I believe true love is one of those that manifests itself when it's truly real.....to the two people in love and everyone around them. It just is. :)


Ok that's all my thoughts for now LOL.

[Sdeidjs]

True Love Friendship is always a sweet responsibility, never an opportunity.
- Kahlil Gibran

:angel:

[Girlygirl]

True love is when u love the person with your whole heart & soul
And would do anything to protect them no matta what the cost.

And be there 4 each other through the good times and bad times

This is beautiful. :wub:

[8701girl]

This is beautiful. :wub:

Thank u girlygirl

[Roxanne]

true love is when ur happy when they're happy and sad when they're sad. also when u want to be with them all the time and cant get enough of them.

[Lisha]

:popcorn:

[Lily]

I'm wondering if true love doesn't just one day sneak up on ya.

There goes queen g showing off by saying in one sentence what I tried to articulate in 2 long paragraphs. :girl_sigh: LOL :lol:.....and yes, I think it does, it just is. I truly believe we all have a destiny, and that there are reasons for everything. When the time is right things happen. :)

[8701girl]

True Love Friendship is always a sweet responsibility, never an opportunity.
- Kahlil Gibran

:angel:


Aww that is sweet :wub:

[Girlygirl]

Thank u girlygirl

You're welcome :wink:

[Kirsten]

I remember I thought I was experiencing "true love" once... But then when I thought about what love was, I was like "...I think I'm a bit off here!" I was more infatuated and obsessive, I think. Plus, the person I thought I loved didn't even return the feelings so I don't know what I was thinking :| LOL.

[8701girl]

:) to girlygirl.

True love is also when you are bale to have a good laugh with someone
and never ever have to be someone that you are not.

[Ape]

Very true^ in fact you feel more yourself with them than anywhere else. Like they are able to bring every part of who you are to the forefront when you are with them...and it's not only accepted, but loved fully.

[Lorraine]

you feel more yourself with them than anywhere else. Like they are able to bring every part of who you are to the forefront when you are with them...

I couldn't have said that better myself, In my own experience that's exactly how I feel/felt. I guess that comes with the saying when two hearts are joined you become one? They are you, you are them. You are one. :)

[CatherineNZ]

true love exists :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzTwYOJZ5SI

[colla]

true love isssssssssssssssssssss

to be together!! :D

[8701girl]

Very true^ in fact you feel more yourself with them than anywhere else. Like they are able to bring every part of who you are to the forefront when you are with them...and it's not only accepted, but loved fully.


Yep that is very true

[Lily]

Immature love says "I love you because I need you." Mature love says "I need you because I love you." - Erich Fromm


<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com<img src=" /><o:p>True love begins when nothing is looked for in return. - Antoine de Saint-Exupery
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[Lily]

True love is never a Goodbye.....

[Girlygirl]

:) to girlygirl.

:) *smiles back*
---------------------------

True Love is mutual respect. :wub:

[summer]

MJ's shirt says it best:

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/7923/heartlocked.jpg (http://img177.imageshack.us/my.php?image=heartlocked.jpg)

[Ape]

What is your interpretation of that Summer?

[summer]

What is your interpretation of that Summer?

"Don't fall in love". Because you just get hurt. Better to guard your heart and lock it and throw the key away. Maybe some day, the right person finds the key anyways...if God's willing?

And that's just MY interpretation, why I personally like the locked heart picture. :lol: MJ most likely just randomly picked the shirt or he liked it because it has red stuff on it? :lol:

[8701girl]

lol love your interpretiaon summer!
altough it is avery good point.

[Ape]

Hmm, I was thinking it was like the heart is locked and someone holds the key.

[Shinn_Athha_Wakamiya]

Hmm, I was thinking it was like the heart is locked and someone holds the key.

I was thinking the same. but the question is who holds the key?

[summer]

Hmm, I was thinking it was like the heart is locked and someone holds the key.

Ooooh! :) Well your interpretation is much nicer and more positive than mine and for MJ's sake I hope that is more correct than mine. I mean, I can't speak for MJ anyways...I was just saying how I personally see that picture. :lol:


I was thinking the same. but the question is who holds the key?

Well, his secret lover of course!! :lol: :lol:

[Poefiend]

True Love isnt filled with fear
or questionings it flows freely.
It is relaxed and knowing and
complete.

[Lily]

Do any of you feel like your life would be incomplete if you never find your true love?

[summer]

Do any of you feel like your life would be incomplete if you never find your true love?

Yes. Very much so. :boohoo:But as much as one wants it, it's something you can't force...it either happens or it doesn't. Either you are blessed enough to find it or you aren't...but you can't force it.

[lil_miss_mj]

I've been thinking... can two people ever love one another exactly the same? I don't really think there is a perfect love. I mean, one is always going to love the other a bit more...

And what do you do when the only person you want to be with doesn't want you in return? To me, that's worse than not finding the right person at all.... believe me... I was a lot happier on my own, and feeling like I'd not found anyone. When you know that the person is right for you, because it feels right, how can you ever get over that?....

Didn't mean to bring the thread down. Just sharing my opinion and feelings. :)

[Empyrean Dancer]

Do any of you feel like your life would be incomplete if you never find your true love?

Hell yes! I wonder lots of times where is the love of my life! People use to say there's always a pot for a pan, but I'm beginning to think my pot needs a GPS baddly!!! He must be lost somewhere, that's for sure. Now I only need to know where. Maybe he's foreign, and since Portugal is such a small place, he has trouble finding it! :scratch:

Anyway, is not that I'm standing with my arms crossed waiting for him. I'm living my life the best way I can, but as I'm extremely romantic and to me there's not such things as one night stands and occasional relationships just for the heck of it, my love life has been non-existent for about 4 years or such now. All the guys I come to meet are soooo empty in their heads, you know? Anyway, my other half, if you're reading this:

Hurry up already!!! I'm not getting any younger! :timer:

:rofl:

[Lily]

I've been thinking... can two people ever love one another exactly the same? I don't really think there is a perfect love. I mean, one is always going to love the other a bit more...

And what do you do when the only person you want to be with doesn't want you in return? To me, that's worse than not finding the right person at all.... believe me... I was a lot happier on my own, and feeling like I'd not found anyone. When you know that the person is right for you, because it feels right, how can you ever get over that?....

Didn't mean to bring the thread down. Just sharing my opinion and feelings. :)

You didn't bring the thread down. I like hearing other peoples opinions.

I just wanted to comment on the highlighted part.....Does the other person actually know how you feel and not feel the same? If they don't know how you feel, why not tell them if it feels right to you? I think that the only thing holding us back sometimes from finding out if things in life are the truth is ourselves. For me personally I just can't see putting myself through feeling such a strong emotion like love when it's something that is not reciprocated. To me it's pointless. I think we cause ourselves more heartache and pain when we don't take chances, dwell on things, or always wonder, and I know I sound harsh sometimes when I can so easily say you have to let it go and move on, but it's the truth. Some people come into our life and will always and forever hold a special place in our heart, but why put yourself through certain things when another opportunity may be passing you by in life.

I believe if it IS right, like Poe said above and I agree with it, it isn't filled with fear or questioning it flows freely.

True love just is.....

[Ashtanga]

True love is caring for another person is not forgetting of itself, this is love, love is not a complete gift, love is an exchange, do not love yourself, love is a life of two hands and give to the other without expect nothing in return. :)

[MJsPYT1]

true love????......never heard of it :scratch:

[Lorraine]

true love????......never heard of it :scratch:


Awww. :hug:

[Ape]

Do any of you feel like your life would be incomplete if you never find your true love?
I would feel my life is incomplete if I am never with my true love. If I have to go my whole life without him, or even another year... I think I am ready for true love to come find me. . or me find it. Wherever it may be.

I've been thinking... can two people ever love one another exactly the same? I don't really think there is a perfect love. I mean, one is always going to love the other a bit more...

And what do you do when the only person you want to be with doesn't want you in return? To me, that's worse than not finding the right person at all.... believe me... I was a lot happier on my own, and feeling like I'd not found anyone. When you know that the person is right for you, because it feels right, how can you ever get over that?....

Didn't mean to bring the thread down. Just sharing my opinion and feelings. :)
Maybe you just don't know how they really feel lilmiss. It's possible. Often times people don't let on exactly how they really truly feel for another. Maybe there can be misunderstandings as well that lead you to think something other than what it is. Don't give up. Maybe the right person really does want to be with you. We are only human and don't always know the perfect way to do things or let another one know how we feel.

Just my experience. Maybe it can help? :hug: I miss you lil miss. I hope I get time to come here and play when you are here too someday. Take care

[lil_miss_mj]

Thanks for responding. :)


You didn't bring the thread down. I like hearing other peoples opinions.

I just wanted to comment on the highlighted part.....Does the other person actually know how you feel and not feel the same? If they don't know how you feel, why not tell them if it feels right to you? I think that the only thing holding us back sometimes from finding out if things in life are the truth is ourselves. For me personally I just can't see putting myself through feeling such a strong emotion like love when it's something that is not reciprocated. To me it's pointless. I think we cause ourselves more heartache and pain when we don't take chances, dwell on things, or always wonder, and I know I sound harsh sometimes when I can so easily say you have to let it go and move on, but it's the truth. Some people come into our life and will always and forever hold a special place in our heart, but why put yourself through certain things when another opportunity may be passing you by in life.

I believe if it IS right, like Poe said above and I agree with it, it isn't filled with fear or questioning it flows freely.

True love just is.....


I would feel my life is incomplete if I am never with my true love. If I have to go my whole life without him, or even another year... I think I am ready for true love to come find me. . or me find it. Wherever it may be.

Maybe you just don't know how they really feel lilmiss. It's possible. Often times people don't let on exactly how they really truly feel for another. Maybe there can be misunderstandings as well that lead you to think something other than what it is. Don't give up. Maybe the right person really does want to be with you. We are only human and don't always know the perfect way to do things or let another one know how we feel.

Just my experience. Maybe it can help? :hug: I miss you lil miss. I hope I get time to come here and play when you are here too someday. Take care


No, I know how this person really feels and it isn't reciprocated. He said "I wish that the feelings were there", and to be honest... I'm not really sure if that makes it better or worse? Because now I just keep thinking what if. I know it's probably silly and a waste of my time to keep a hold of it, but to me that's what love is. You don't give up on it. I guess I always think he will change his mind at some point, I don't know. I really hope and pray that he will because I won't ever feel like this for another person. We're very close, like we have a very strange connection. It's hard to explain it...

I don't usually open up like this on a public message board. But thanks guys. :)

And I miss you too, Ape. :( All our wild times on here. xD

[Lily]

Thanks for responding. :)

No, I know how this person really feels and it isn't reciprocated. He said "I wish that the feelings were there", and to be honest... I'm not really sure if that makes it better or worse? Because now I just keep thinking what if. I know it's probably silly and a waste of my time to keep a hold of it, but to me that's what love is. You don't give up on it. I guess I always think he will change his mind at some point, I don't know. I really hope and pray that he will because I won't ever feel like this for another person. We're very close, like we have a very strange connection. It's hard to explain it...


I really do understand what you say about a strange connection. :)
I think you can always hold onto the love you may feel towards someone in your heart but you should never stop living or moving forward with life. It's hard to hear and it hurts, but I think the best thing that he has done for you is be honest with what his feelings truly are instead of leading you on with false hopes.

You're welcome for the response. :) Hang in there, life is tough sometimes but I know you'll be alright. :flowers:

[Lorraine]

I could list a whole lot of thoughts about what true love isn't. But I won't go there........


Also.. some people confuse LOVE with a Crushes... There is a BIG difference.

[colla]

people always trend to be selfish(such as ask the other side love more than self, such as ask more self-protection and ask the other side more open heart.......)
no exception be-in-love(whatever you call it true-love or others else), it's a lasting-fighting forever on everything. it means, when you were in a love, you need to accept this type of challenge that came from both sides---yourself and other side......
.....................................so what? go and fight!

love is worth existing even if in such a fighting.
the fighting never can deny being's urgent request of love, and love didnt mean the fight would disappear automatically. just accept all the challenge because you dare to love deeper---------good excises for you, your mind & spirit! come and across, you find a more ideal self because of winning the challenges

in front of every love, there was a volcano & ice-sea(coming from the deepest of human nature) that you need to over come/across, then win. yeah, it was just so hard, most time people stop as soon as they feel the terrible heat or coldness, or drowning in sea before they reached the bank, or destroyed by the heat(yes sometimes people might go crime for love)............... people got all kinds of things from the love-travels: embers, stong-heart, blood.......
but they just cant help falling in love once more--------------no other choice, human being is such a mental animal, you just cant live only with food, you also need love. so........... since it was inescapable, why not try your best to do? try the best to do, and find the gold while you fighting with the volcano and ice-sea, even though you cant get this love, at least you wont never fail in digging-gold-character in this love-travel if you do try your best without fears and always being creative... much better than finally you would be invovled in love once more even if you bear all the fears/self-protection... and then you might get double-fail in love & self-value :P
wow just go ahead people. love never only mean easy-candy, lazy-candy, it also means digging-gold while you need to go through the volcano and ice-sea.

yeah i myself do think it was a good thing------goooood setting from GOD, and good for ourselves---finally our life need to be spend in some way: sometimes lying on easy-bed, sometimes work hard in sunshine........ etc.


plus:
the thoughts above has an precondition---you are in love, you have the motor, or you still keep the motor.
the thoughts is about how to use your motor while facing all the hurdles in your real life.

above is 1st part.
it wasnt suitable for those sad status that love had lost totally or had transfered to other person.
about those sad status, about those people had lost love... well it's another part, the 2nd part we gonna talk about, it's another difficult part we need to face and work out in our life. even if myself(i do think i own a lot powers on handling the abstract stuffs) stayed in the status that love had lost, i had lost the feeling the motor that i had felt for sb. after heart-breaking again and again, then what i can do was to turn around and try to keep far away from him (be watchful, the key in this sentence is "love had lost", not "heart-breaking"... hmmm the "heart-breaking" in this sentence belongs to the 1st part, and the "love had lost" in this sentence belongs to the 2nd part).
yeah, so many challenges in life, it's really not easy, isnt it??
before you work out the both, you had to tell the both stuffs at the first place----------wow how hard again!


as of what's the function of love/feeling love... it's the 3rd part, different from the 1st part(how the love-motor work) and 2nd part(how to handle when love had lost). about the 3rd part we had talked a lot, in one simple word, it's the spirit-food of us(the-mental-creature), we are human being, we cant live only with food, and the motor inner can lead us to make 1 miracle after another miracle, and you cant do that without the powerful motor.

[Lily]

"Love is a deep well from which you may drink often, but into which you may fall but once." - Ellye Howell Glover

[Lisha]

:popcorn:

[Poefiend]

True love is what you make it
you can ruin it sometimes and
break it but if youre careful
with it and keep it pure and true
then true love will always stay
within the heart of you.

[Lorraine]

I don't think, maybe, that true love, once lodged deep in one's heart, is going to go anywhere, anytime soon.

Very true. :)

___________

Is it possible for people that have never found true love or felt it to actually say on what is is or isn't? I think you need to feel it to say on it personally.

[Lily]

Is it possible for people that have never found true love or felt it to actually say on what is is or isn't? I think you need to feel it to say on it personally.

Yes it is possible. People have opinions on everything in life, however nobody is the all knowing or authority on anything except God. Viewpoints and opinions may differ when it comes to individual definitions of true love, love, obsessions, crushes, fascinations, etc.....I've felt all of the above emotions at one point or another throughout my life, most people have, except I've never found my true love. I live my life by experience. My definition may be quite different from someone elses but I can personally speak on what I believe true love is, what I know by experiences, what I feel, what I know I want and deserve, and what's embedded in my heart. If it differs from someone elses point of view, that's fine by me to. :)

[Poefiend]

True Love comes from God

[Lorraine]

Yes it is possible. People have opinions on everything in life, however nobody is the all knowing or authority on anything except God. Viewpoints and opinions may differ when it comes to individual definitions of true love, love, obsessions, crushes, fascinations, etc.....I've felt all of the above emotions at one point or another throughout my life, most people have, except I've never found my true love. I live my life by experience. My definition may be quite different from someone elses but I can personally speak on what I believe true love is, what I know by experiences, what I feel, what I know I want and deserve, and what's embedded in my heart. If it differs from someone elses point of view, that's fine by me to. :)


When you put it like that, It does make a lot of sense. :)

[Poefiend]

true Love is cheesecake

[Lorraine]

^ Could be? :unsure: LOL
But I always thought like MJ... Love is a donut. LOL! JK being silly..
Nothing beats the cheesecake. :P haha!

[summer]

true Love is cheesecake So in other words....it's a "piece of (cheese)cake"? :lol: :lol:


True love is hard to find. How's that? :scratch: :lol:

[Lisha]

:popcorn:

[summer]

True love is what you make it
you can ruin it sometimes and
break it but if youre careful
with it and keep it pure and true
then true love will always stay
within the heart of you.

I just realized now that that actually rhymes. :yes: Nice words Poe.


Lorraine...didn't someone write a parody about that to Who Is it once? *singing* "Love is a donut...give it when I want it"...:lol:

And queen g...:lol:

[8701girl]

true Love is cheesecake


If it is...then i can have some please!!!!?? :lol:

[SoS]

True love is seeing the possibilities in everything and everyone without having to search very hard for them.

[Lily]

^ I agree, that's nice SoS. :)

[Poefiend]

Love is the WHOLE cheesecake not just one slice :lol:

[Ape]

How about a cheesecake bakery? Or is that just way too much love to even fathom? :lol:

[wendijane]

^ . thats a great answer poe , doubel creamy cheesecake~a bIGGGGGGGGGGGGGG one with scrummy cherrys and fruity layers and alllllll the trimmings to make a perfect cake .


~to me, its like cheese , sometimes it stinks , .....but sometimes its so oh so yummy and ya jus cant get enuff of wub .

[wendijane]

How about a cheesecake bakery? Or is that just way too much love to even fathom? :lol:




:bugeyed ape you made me hungry now !
*ransacks a bakery*

all in the sweet name of LOVE :wild:

[8701girl]

what bout a ALL chocolate bakery....mmmmm yummy

[Lily]

It's a cheesecake thread hijack! :hijacked: Now I feel like eating at the Cheesecake Factory. LOL :P :lol:

_________________________________


"Love is. the flower of life, and blossoms unexpectedly and without law, and must be plucked where it is found, and enjoyed for the brief hour of its duration." - D. H. Lawrence

[Poefiend]

its all about the CHEESECAKE!!!!!!!! :P

[Lorraine]

Love is nothing without cheesecake.. a love without cheesecake is boring LOL

[wendijane]

yep yep ! and doooooughnuts! :wild:

[8701girl]

Ohhh yummy yeh doughnuts!! :wild:

[Lorraine]

Not seeing someone as perfect, You see their flaws and still love them.

True love isn't seeked, It's not something one should try to find. It will just come, if it is meant to be.

[MJsSpecialFan]

its all about the CHEESECAKE!!!!!!!! :P
MmMmMmMmm! YummY:popcorn:

[Empyrean Dancer]

Recently I've been thinking more and more on how true love is like a fairy tale. Something that was made up to make us romantics feel hopeful, but it doesn't really exist. I was thinking that today after hearing Beyonce's song "Halo". It's a very beautiful song, but it made me think about how impossible it feels right now for me to ever relate with that song's lyrics.

Thought of the day: Everyday I'm one step closer from becoming a "cat lady".

[Ape]

(I love that Halo song)

awww... well there's nothing wrong with cats :). And really there is nothing wrong with being single either. It has many benefits like you can be free to do whatever you wish and pursue any dreams you have without getting input from a significant other. You can really know your own style without being influenced by someone who may want things his way instead of yours. You can take off at the drop of a hat without asking if this weekend is ok for you guys to go somewhere. Without making sure it's a place you both want, or a movie you both want or etc etc.. sometimes lonely, but if you like your own company, single can be nice.










sometimes.

[Poefiend]

In the words of John Lennon... :)

Love is real, real is love
Love is feeling, feeling love
Love is wanting to be loved

Love is touch, touch is love
Love is reaching, reaching love
Love is asking to be loved

Love is you
You and me
Love is knowing
we can be

Love is free, free is love
Love is living, living love
Love is needed to be loved

[Ape]

Yes it is.......

Out of everything you could post, you chose this song. Thank you for posting poefiend. (this particular song holds special meaning to me)

[Lisha]

:popcorn:

[Poefiend]

Yw :) I like it too

[Ape]

Undefinable only because it is so many things and each time you think you've come close to defining it, something more comes to mind.

It is probably that we can't do justice to it with mere words, though we can give a hint.

Sometimes it is only fear that keeps us from fully experiencing it, till we can have confidence in it through time, experience, and the building of trust.

[SoS]

True love is caring because you can't not.