View Full Version : Where was that? (Fred Astaire & Michael)
not_guilty
26-01-2008, 04:12 PM
Where was this photo made?
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/7362/mwp53op5.gif (http://www.vbulletin.com)
niko82
26-01-2008, 06:30 PM
it is probably a personal photo of michael's since it is from Moonwalk.
Datsymay
26-01-2008, 06:34 PM
Fred Astaire new MJ from he was a small boy. The Jacksons were his next door neighbour.
great pic thanks for posting
Chaos
26-01-2008, 07:08 PM
Fred Astaire new MJ from he was a small boy. The Jacksons were his next door neighbour.
wow really?
Datsymay
26-01-2008, 07:12 PM
wow really?
Yes, they were neighbours and MJ used to bump into him when he was out riding his bike. I can't remember where I read it. MJ has been around some of the greatest people of his time. He met them all.
Chaos
26-01-2008, 09:36 PM
Yes, they were neighbours and MJ used to bump into him when he was out riding his bike. I can't remember where I read it. MJ has been around some of the greatest people of his time. He met them all.
was this before or after motown?
Datsymay
26-01-2008, 09:41 PM
was this before or after motown?
During amd after Motown of course. They moved fron gary to Encino, California after signing to Motown. MJ was only 10.
wannabestartinsomthin21
27-01-2008, 02:36 AM
That would be the two greatest dancers in history together!
mickson177
28-01-2008, 04:55 AM
Jackson dedicates his 1988 autobiography (’Moonwalk’) to Fred Astaire.
http://floacist.wordpress.com/2007/10/11/quotes-on-michael-jackson/
“Oh, God! That boy moves in a very exceptional way. That’s the greatest dancer of the century”. - Fred Astaire
“I didn’t want to leave this world without knowing who my descendant was. Thank you Michael!”- Fred Astaire (shortly before his death)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YN3MCnG2YB0
Michael Jackson recalls Fred Astaire’s phone call after Motown 25 performance of ‘Billie Jean’.
Michaelismagic
28-01-2008, 09:04 AM
Can u name some of their movies? in case I watch them too
Datsymay
28-01-2008, 09:22 AM
Can u name some of their movies? in case I watch them too
MJ is an educater. I can't tell you how many films and people I've become interested in because MJ is related to itl:o
Remyisme
28-01-2008, 09:26 AM
I could be wrong, but the picture seemes to be taken on the set of making of thriller, when he rehersed with ola, he wore the same shirt.
Michaelismagic
28-01-2008, 10:32 AM
Singing In the Rain is the most famous and I believe both men were in this film, Gene and Fred
The dance segment in the rain with the lamp post is very great
some say Gene Kelly was a finer mover than Fred and Smooth Criminal is heavily based on a Gene Kelly dance in a white suit, with a hat
Check out box sets of 40's musicals for cheap dvd deals
Thanx!!:)
and about that dance in a white suit..do u know the name of that movie too?
Michaelismagic
28-01-2008, 10:34 AM
MJ is an educater. I can't tell you how many films and people I've become interested in because MJ is related to itl:o
not all of the movies that u saw cause of MJ!! I meant the one with Fred Astair and Gene Kelly dear!
cinderella
28-01-2008, 10:54 AM
Singing In the Rain is the most famous and I believe both men were in this film, Gene and Fred
The dance segment in the rain with the lamp post is very great
some say Gene Kelly was a finer mover than Fred and Smooth Criminal is heavily based on a Gene Kelly dance in a white suit, with a hat
Check out box sets of 40's musicals for cheap dvd deals
no... only Gene and Donald O'Connor were in the classic....
'Smooth Criminal's as well as 'Dangerous' inspiration ( "The Band Wagon"- Fred Astaire and Cyd Charisse-COOL)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDGGw3RH5ug- it's just a part:D
ps. I love them both (Gene and Fred) but personally I prefer Fred
cinderella
28-01-2008, 10:58 AM
fred told Michael he was 'One hell of a
I was one of the fans who watched Gene Kelly and Fred Astaire movies just because Michael had mentioned them
I watched the musicals BEFORE I even knew who Michael Jackson was :D
and I just LOVED them .... I love them still!:punk:
Michaelismagic
28-01-2008, 10:59 AM
Thanx buddy
cinderella
28-01-2008, 11:12 AM
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“Oh, God! That boy moves in a very exceptional way. That’s the greatest dancer of the century”. - Fred Astaire
“I didn’t want to leave this world without knowing who my descendant was. Thank you Michael!”- Fred Astaire (shortly before his death)
:heart::heart::heart::weeping::yes::give_rose:
cinderella
28-01-2008, 12:21 PM
Thanx buddy
welcome!.......
the floacist
29-01-2008, 12:30 AM
Michael has met just about every legendary well known person there is.
wannabestartinsomthin21
29-01-2008, 06:11 AM
Singing In the Rain is the most famous and I believe both men were in this film, Gene and Fred
The dance segment in the rain with the lamp post is very great
some say Gene Kelly was a finer mover than Fred and Smooth Criminal is heavily based on a Gene Kelly dance in a white suit, with a hat
Check out box sets of 40's musicals for cheap dvd deals
"Smooth Criminal" is actually inspried by a segment from Fred Astaire's film "The Bandwagon". Michael himself has said he feel's Fred Astaire was a better dancer then Gene Kelly, and I would agree.
"Singing In The Rain" only had Gene Kelly in it. Gene and Fred only ever appeared in one movie together, called "The Zigfield Follies", where they did one dance number together.
Michael is built very similarly to Astaire, long legs, very thin, perfect height, you see they're about the same height, and they both are the same type of dancer. Both give equal attention to their upper body movement as their lower and their coordination is very centered, giving them incredible balance and control. And both are phenomenally graceful, fast and accurate.
Catherine..
29-01-2008, 06:14 AM
An earlier pic, I think its from Sesame Street... Michaels looking at Fred Astaire with such admiration in this picture. The look hes giving him is just like hes amazed or something.
http://i27.tinypic.com/xf7tib.jpg
Michaelismagic
29-01-2008, 06:37 AM
wow cool pix!
so I should watch these "Singing In The Rain" "The Bandwagon" and "The Zigfield Follies"
wannabestartinsomthin21
29-01-2008, 07:19 AM
Yeah, Michael's like "Ahhhhhh, Fred Astaire!" in that picture, lol.
Chris J
29-01-2008, 09:29 AM
The sliding of the glass down the bar in that "The Band Wagon" clip above is in You Rock My World :)
cinderella
29-01-2008, 09:47 AM
An earlier pic, I think its from Sesame Street... Michaels looking at Fred Astaire with such admiration in this picture. The look hes giving him is just like hes amazed or something.
http://i27.tinypic.com/xf7tib.jpg
Would you not be?:D
cinderella
29-01-2008, 09:56 AM
Michael himself has said he feel's Fred Astaire was a better dancer then Gene Kelly, and I would agree.
really, he said this???? When?That's cool!
Well, I always prefered Fred as I said above (but Gene was cool as well), I used to watch him with an amazement :owhen I was a little girl in the early 80s:D
"Singing In The Rain" only had Gene Kelly in it.and Donald O'connor ( "Make Them Laugh" or the "Moses Number" with him were really classic)
RiP all the great dancers..... but don't you worry
Michael Jackson is still alive:)... thanks GOD
cinderella
29-01-2008, 10:17 AM
The sliding of the glass down the bar in that "The Band Wagon" clip above is in You Rock My World :)
and the text that is being said by Fred is an inspiration for "Dangerous'' as I said above:D
wannabestartinsomthin21
29-01-2008, 10:31 PM
really, he said this???? When?That's cool!
Well, I always prefered Fred as I said above (but Gene was cool as well), I used to wach him with an amazement :owhen I was a little girl in the early 80s:D
and Donald O'connor ( "Make Them Laugh" or the "Moses Number" with him were really classic)
RiP all the great dancers..... but don't you worry
Michael Jackson is still alive:)... thanks GOD
Yeah, he said so in an interview with Mike Douglas from around 1975 I think. Michael had just watched "That's Entertainment" and he was all anamored with Fred and he said that Fred was built for dancing and that he was smoother then Gene. But after Fred he said Gene was his second favorite. Donald O'Conner was a great dancer as well, very athletic. Another is Danny Kaye, who you see in that Disney 25th Anniversary special with Michael from 1980. Anyway, Michael is in that class of elite movers. That's why I get miffed when they compare today's music acts that dance to Michael or vice versa because it really undermines Michael's actual talent level. He's world class, not pop class, lol.
It's obvious that Fred Astaire is the dancer Michael is most impressed with and most similar to in terms of the way he moves. Style wise, I would say Bob Fosse has had the biggest influence on Michael, with jazz steps and such. But the way Michael moves, with that kind of grace, speed and clean lines, is most like Astaire.
cinderella
29-01-2008, 10:33 PM
Yeah, he said so in an interview with Mike Douglas from around 1975 I think. Michael had just watched "That's Entertainment" and he was all anamored with Fred and he said that Fred was built for dancing and that he was smoother then Gene. But after Fred he said Gene was his second favorite.
any link for the interview?
I could understand this:P, thank you:D
wannabestartinsomthin21
29-01-2008, 10:35 PM
Uh, I'm not sure. I have it on a DVD. If you type in Mike Douglas and the Jackson Five on youtube, you might find it.
cinderella
29-01-2008, 10:57 PM
Uh, I'm not sure. I have it on a DVD. If you type in Mike Douglas and the Jackson Five on youtube, you might find it.
OK, there are "only" songs ... no interview
but thanks anyway:)
LovelyOne
29-01-2008, 11:08 PM
Yes, they were neighbours and MJ used to bump into him when he was out riding his bike. I can't remember where I read it. MJ has been around some of the greatest people of his time. He met them all.
I know, Mike has been sooooo lucky!
Well then again they were lucky to have met Michael! :D
Datsymay
30-01-2008, 10:47 AM
I know, Mike has been sooooo lucky!
Well then again they were lucky to have met Michael! :D
Too true:D
the Rock my world WALK, with his shoulders up ducking the neck, was derived from Fred Estair aswell.. He does that on Bandwagon..
Bandwagon was the piece that is most appearant in MJ's influence..
1) The Billie Jean set
2) The 'rock my world' walk
3) The MJ walk (when he rocks his hands infront of his body)
4) smooth criminal outfit
3) the 'Dangerous' lines
you know what else influenced Dangerous performance alot??? SEE IT?>> lol! I'm sure you do
http://youtube.com/watch?v=2U-rBZREQMw&feature=related
^^^You'll see alot of other MJ influences here too^^
the floacist
01-02-2008, 08:50 AM
An earlier pic, I think its from Sesame Street... Michaels looking at Fred Astaire with such admiration in this picture. The look hes giving him is just like hes amazed or something.
http://i27.tinypic.com/xf7tib.jpg
I've seen that pic before, never knew that was Astaire until now. Thanks for posting!!
Btw, Diana looks marvelous & beautiful in your sig :D
cinderella
25-03-2008, 07:59 PM
I've seen that pic before, never knew that was Astaire until now. Thanks for posting!!
:D
how come?:o
well, it's strange for me but I've been Fred's fan since I was about four years old ... so forgive me this:)
daphnieas
25-03-2008, 08:17 PM
I love this thread, the influences are so clear!
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