The Official Britney Spears Drama Thread [Archive] - The Michael Jackson Community

Dangerous Incorporated

29-01-2008, 03:33 AM

This thread is for all the news regarding Brits recent troubles. The other Official Britney thread is for fans and not for tabloid stories:
http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=44069

Britney Allowed to Speak to Kids on the Phone

http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/8821/480bspearskfederlinepapod2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

BRITNEY SPEARS is allowed to communicate with her little boys, SEAN PRESTON, 2, and JAYDEN JAMES, 1, by phone, according to new court papers obtained by "The Insider."
A minute order (http://www.theinsideronline.com/documents/bspears_kfederline_papers_080128_insider.pdf) from last week's custody hearing (http://www.theinsideronline.com/news/2008/01/15414/) that "The Insider" has obtained shows that the court has ordered that the pop princess "is to have telephonic communication with the minor children."
Spears has not been allowed to spend time with the two toddlers since her visitation rights were suspended in early January following a custody standoff.

Source: The Insider

EssenceOfMagic

29-01-2008, 03:39 AM

We have a separate thread for Brit's drama? hmmm okay

She was just on tv AGAIN on Entertainment Tonight for..... shopping! How pathetic. Poor girl.

Dangerous Incorporated

29-01-2008, 03:44 AM

Yup Admins want a seperate thread for Brit fans and news.

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/2809/insadnanvictoria080122sgq1.jpg (http://www.theinsideronline.com/video.php?vid=15497&config=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.theinsideronline.com%2Fmed ia%2Fvideo%2F2008%2F01%2F15497%2Findex.php)
Tonight on "The Insider"-- ADNAN GHALIB goes on the record about BRITNEY SPEARS.

EssenceOfMagic

29-01-2008, 03:48 AM

yeah I just saw. fair enough then.

That Adnan guy was on ET too- saying how brit may have known of Jamie Lynne's pregnancy before the paps told her.

Dangerous Incorporated

29-01-2008, 03:54 AM

Britney Rehearses; Has Wardrobe Malfunction!

http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/8995/insbritneytopless080127cw6.jpg (http://www.theinsideronline.com/video.php?vid=15527&config=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.theinsideronline.com%2Fmed ia%2Fvideo%2F2008%2F01%2F15527%2Findex.php)
(NO NUDITY)

Hollywood.tv (http://www.hollywood.tv/) cameras catch BRITNEY SPEARS practicing some new dance moves at Millennium Dance Studio in North Hollywood. Later, cameras catch Britney having a wardrobe malfunction while changing clothes.

Dangerous Incorporated

29-01-2008, 04:00 AM

It's full on for Brits right now and she's EVERYWHERE in the media:

Britney and Sam's Fight Night! (http://www.tmz.com/2008/01/28/britney-and-sams-fight-night/)

TMZ was there as Britney and constant companion Sam Lutfi got into what we're told was a huge, "really ugly" blowout.

http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/4113/012808britneycargc7.jpg (http://www.tmz.com/tmz_main_video?titleid=1395205706)

Britney and Sam drove up to the gate of her house when she suddenly jumped out of the car crying -- why we're not sure. Britney's paparazzo boyfriend Adnan Ghalib tells TMZ he got a frantic call from a hysterical Brit at that moment, pleading with him "Baby, can you come pick me up??" Adnan told us he told her to go into her house and he would be right over. When he arrived, however, he was told in no uncertain terms that he was not allowed to enter the gate -- the guards were under strict orders from Sam not to let him in. He's tried calling each of her six cell phones and the house phone, but she's not answering.

The LAPD were called to the scene for what they tell us was a person trying to get access to the ground without permission. We've learned, however, that they were called to contain the paparazzi crush that was trying to shoot the fight, not for one specific person.

Story developing ...

suspicious_mind

29-01-2008, 08:25 AM

^^^Maybe that had something to do with what Sam did - He freakin called Barbara Walters and told her that Britney has some 'mental issues' that she was taking care of.....
I hope she gets some help if she in fact DOES have them but i always knew that Sam guy was a bad one. I predicted that from the beginning. Along with that other girl that used to be constantly with her.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/cpress/20080128/ca_pr_on_en/tv_spears_walters_2

Britney Spears' manager tells Walters the singer has 'mental issues'
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS Mon Jan 28, 5:40 PM ET

NEW YORK - Barbara Walters says she has been contacted by Britney Spears' manager and "very good friend," Sam Lutfi, who says the pop singer has seen a psychiatrist.
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Lutfi told her the 26-year-old pop singer "is suffering from what he describes as mental issues which are treatable," Walters said Monday on ABC's "The View."
"He said that she has been to a psychiatrist and that she, I assume, is starting some kind of treatment," said Walters, a co-host on the ABC daytime talk show.
"She has been having mood swings. She's been having trouble sleeping, and also she is in touch with her mother - 'cause we had heard she wasn't - and her mother has been very supportive of whatever it is that Britney is going to do," Walters said.
Lutfi has been staying with Spears constantly, "and he got in touch with us," Walters said. "I can't vouch for this, he seemed to be very knowledgeable and he certainly was very nice."
Spears' lawyer, Sorrell Trope, didn't immediately return a phone call seeking comment Monday. Spears' spokeswoman at Jive Records, Gina Orr, didn't immediately respond to an e-mail seeking comment.
Spears has spiralled downward since filing for divorce from Kevin Federline in November 2006. Her bizarre public antics include shaving her head bald, attacking a car with an umbrella and bringing along a paparazzo pal on trips to a Los Angeles courthouse in her custody case with Federline.
The singer was taken to a Los Angeles hospital by paramedics earlier this month after police were called to her home because of a dispute involving her sons Sean Preston, 2, and Jayden James, 1. She has lost custody and visitation rights with the boys.
Spears reportedly has had a rocky relationship with her mother, Lynne Spears, whose book about raising her family in the spotlight was put on indefinite hold last month after younger daughter, Jamie Lynn, 16, announced that she is pregnant.

Dangerous Incorporated

29-01-2008, 09:23 AM

Reeta

29-01-2008, 10:16 AM

Adnan said on The Insider that her manager is part of the problem and that she needs to get rid of some of the people who are in her inner circle atm. This Sam guy seems to be one of them that needs to go. Not sure what Adnans motives are even though he didnt het paid for that interview and didnt say anything negative about Brits who talks like the Brits.

Hmm.. why I got a feeling he [Adnan] has his own agenda behind this? "Woot, they won't let me in!? Yeah Brit should get rid of some of the people!". Didn't get paid for the interview, didn't say anything negative about Brit - makes sense, he just can't afford making any mistakes, there are already a lot of peeps who'd like to get rid of him. And in my opinion Brit should dump him, there's too much 'something' in him that makes me suspicious about his intentions. But for Brit's sake I hope I'll be proved wrong.

suspicious_mind

29-01-2008, 11:19 AM

^^I know what u mean. In that interview he seemed so smug like 'oh i know Britney and you dont' kinda thing :dry:
On the x17 site they have new reports of him possibly trying to shop for anyone that will pay him 2 million dollars for private videos of her.
Not sexual, just regular videos of her talking about things to him.

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Heres the video of where Barbara Walters confirmed Britneys manager Sam called her and let her know of her condition. Why he would call Barbara Walters ill never understand.....

http://omg.yahoo.com/manager-says-spears-has-`mental-issues/videos/2806

Thriller_MJ

29-01-2008, 11:26 AM

I don't like Britney Spears nuttin against the person just her music i don't like but i really do feel sorry for her, her life is all over the place at the mo and she needs to get back on track

Roxanne

29-01-2008, 03:37 PM

i feel sorry for her. poor girl shes lost it completely

suspicious_mind

30-01-2008, 03:42 PM

http://x17online.com/celebrities/britney_spears/nice_outfit-01302008.php#more

Wtf?
*sighs*

Next step. Playboy.

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http://www.mtvasia.com/News/200801/30015342.html

suspicious_mind

30-01-2008, 04:04 PM

Seriously why is she so mean sometimes? :mello:

http://www.tmz.com/tmz_main_video?titleid=1396941594

Actions like these are what made me become MUCH less of a fan.

The_Glove

30-01-2008, 04:55 PM

Seriously why is she so mean sometimes? :mello:

http://www.tmz.com/tmz_main_video?titleid=1396941594

Actions like these are what made me become MUCH less of a fan.

:lol: Ahh dear.

Reeta

30-01-2008, 06:02 PM

Seriously why is she so mean sometimes? :mello:

http://www.tmz.com/tmz_main_video?titleid=1396941594

Actions like these are what made me become MUCH less of a fan.

Ha ha ha.. Please, someone show me the part where I was supposed to laugh! Brit actually thought she's being extremely funny? :huh: Im sorry but that was pathetic. Everyone knows paps don't have a life of their own, but you'd think Brit would have better things to do!

Bob George

31-01-2008, 09:02 AM

Report: Britney Attempted Suicide

Posted Thu. Jan. 31, 2008 2:37am by Jen Heger

X17online is reporting that Britney Spears tried to kill herself this evening. The photo agency says that troubled pop star, who had been hospitalized on January 3 on a psychiatric hold, had attempted suicide at her Beverly Hills home, and that her mom, Lynne, had rushed to her side.

As PageSix.com reported just a few hours ago, Britney had been on a wild ride over the past day, and her behavior included trips to a number of random locations and an argument with her pal/sometime manager Sam Lutfi. A Spears family insider told PageSix.com earlier this evening that the 26-year-old was "on a manic high," adding, "She's been up all night and hasn't slept in 24 hours straight."

That same insider is now claiming that the pop star didn't attempt suicide, but admits that a doctor was at Britney's home in the Summit gated community just a few hours ago.

Officer Brose from the LAPD confirmed to PageSix.com that police have responded to Britney's house but couldn't provide any details of what was going on.

Story developing...

http://www.pagesix.com/story/report+britney+attempted+suicide

Bob George

31-01-2008, 09:06 AM

she's been committed apparently according to Perez Hilton and TMZ

Reeta

31-01-2008, 09:50 AM

^And x17 is reporting as well...

But gosh this all has totally gone crazy, to me it seems like she has lost the control of herself.. completely :sad:

Dangerous Incorporated

31-01-2008, 10:07 AM

Britney Spears is currently being taken by ambulance to UCLA Medical Center and will be placed on a 5150 hold, which means she poses a danger to herself and others. This is her second 5150 stint this month.

Cops are currently speaking on police radio in code, saying, "The Package is on the way."

TMZ has learned the plan to get Britney into UCLA Medical Center had been hatched for days -- it was aborted last night, but executed just minutes ago. And we're told the plan was so intricate the FAA had cleared airspace in route to the hospital.

Back at her house, Britney's psychiatrist told her she was going to the hospital. Her response was, "Is something wrong?" She was not resistant. She made hot chocolate and waited before paramedics arrived and placed her on a gurney.

We're told the psychiatrist felt her condition had deteriorated. Britney had not slept since Saturday -- a day and half longer than she stayed up in recent memory.

The reason she's at UCLA is her new treating psychiatrist practices out of that medical center.

We're told during her initial 72-hour stay she cannot be forced to take medication against her will. If, however, she refuses to take meds, the plan is for the the psych to go to court and have Britney held for an additional 14 days, during which time he can administer proper medications.

And get this ironic twist -- Lynne Spears and Adnan drove to the Medical Center in the same car. A source tells us when Lynne found out Britney was being committed, she blamed it on Sam and was extremely agitated. When Brit heard that, she screamed to her mother, "Shut the hell up."

Source: TMZ

suspicious_mind

31-01-2008, 10:39 AM

^^^Yeah i just heard that on CNN...i HOPE that this works for her and people stop enabaling her behavior and making excuses for it.
The girl needs help. The fact that she may finally get it is good news.

Dangerous Incorporated

31-01-2008, 11:12 AM

TMZ has learned there is a bitter fight underway as this story is published. It's taking place in the halls of UCLA Medical Center. As of right now Jamie and Lynne Spears have been told they are not calling the shots in making medical decisions on behalf of Britney. Right now, it appears Sam Lutfi is in the driver's seat, but that could all change.

Sources tell us after Britney's stay at Cedars earlier this month, she had her lawyers draft paperwork making it clear she did not want her parents involved in making medical decisions on her behalf. We're told her dad had gone ballistic back then, screaming and swearing at Lutfi -- even pushing him -- in from of Britney.

As for what paperwork was signed, the cleanest thing would be if Britney signed a durable power of attorney, giving someone power to make medical decision on her behalf in an emergency. We are told no such document was signed, but somehow Britney made it clear she wanted Lutfi to make those decisions.

Right now, the doctors at UCLA are working with Lutfi and not the parents, but lawyers have been called and the tension in the air is thick. We're told Jamie was screaming at Sam in the hallway, accusing him of trying to control his daughter's mind.

As for Britney, we're told she's not only calm, the doctor's have just given her a "cigarette break!"

Stay tuned.

Roxanne

31-01-2008, 12:50 PM

and only a couple of weeks ago i had an "argument" on the other thread with a hardcore fan who insisted that britney is not mentally ill and she doesnt need help :lol: i wonder what he has to say now...

suspicious_mind

31-01-2008, 04:24 PM

^^^The really hardcore fans will never admit she has a problem - even now after shes been in the hospital TWICE now.
Im just realllllllly glad for Britneys sake that not everyone around her is an enabaler. It always does more harm than good.

Jordan

31-01-2008, 06:43 PM

Ha ha ha.. Please, someone show me the part where I was supposed to laugh! Brit actually thought she's being extremely funny? :huh: Im sorry but that was pathetic. Everyone knows paps don't have a life of their own, but you'd think Brit would have better things to do!

You're kidding, right?

Britney did nothing wrong and she was being harrassed and hounded by paparazzi. I would be just as mad and irritated if my life was constantly like that everyday.

Dangerous Incorporated

31-01-2008, 08:12 PM

You're kidding, right?

:o The irony!

Brits is responsible for her own actions.

Dangerous Incorporated

01-02-2008, 01:27 AM

Sources at UCLA Medical Center tell TMZ Britney Spears has been classified as "G.D." - Greatly Disabled. That is a huge and dangerous deal. That means the patient is unable to take care of basic needs, such as the acquisition of food, clothing or shelter. Being G.D. is one of the criteria for involuntary commitment.

Several health care professionals tell us Britney has fallen into a "manic state" due to her bipolar disorder. We're also told, she arrived at the hospital this morning at around 2:15 AM but wasn't admitted until 4:15 AM, because she was causing such a scene in the hospital.

We first reported that Britney accused her mother of sleeping with her boyfriend. Now we have more. We're told Britney screamed, "the only reason she's admitting me is because she wants to be alone with her boyfriend! She wants to sleep with my boyfriend!!" Britney never said exactly who she was talking about.

When Brit calmed down, she talked about her kids, how much she misses them and how it's unfair that she doesn't have them.

Cinnamon234

01-02-2008, 06:58 AM

Not a fan at all, but I wouldn't want to hear anything bad to happen to her. I feel sorry for her :-(. I really hope things work out for her and I wish her all the best.

Bob George

01-02-2008, 07:03 AM

Does anyone else think it's fishy that the Britney Spears scandal has gone into overdrive at around the same time as the presidential debates?

Dangerous Incorporated

01-02-2008, 07:09 AM

Does anyone else think it's fishy that the Britney Spears scandal has gone into overdrive at around the same time as the presidential debates?

I dont get the connection.

Bob George

01-02-2008, 07:12 AM

Dangerous Incorporated

01-02-2008, 07:17 AM

Well, I'll put it this way then. Does the Britney Spears scandal have to be covered so extensively by the media, especially when there are a lot more important things going on in America right now like the debates?

Well whenever a celebrity has a downfall like this (and like MJ had) the media always covers it extensively. Especially when a big name celebrity gets committed, thats huge and doesnt happen. If Brits downfall benefited a certain politician Id say yes but its not and has no effect on the election at all.

Bob George

01-02-2008, 07:48 AM

We'll see...

Dangerous Incorporated

01-02-2008, 07:57 AM

We'll see...

We'll see what? If Brits affects the polls? Ok then.:*****:

suspicious_mind

01-02-2008, 10:15 AM

Well, I'll put it this way then. Does the Britney Spears scandal have to be covered so extensively by the media, especially when there are a lot more important things going on in America right now like the debates?

U dont live in America so ill answer that one for ya.
The reason people are following this Britney Spears story so heavily is because shes a celebrity that people really care about. All they've been saying is that they hope she gets better, that she loves her kids, and that they wish her the best. No one wants to see anything bad happen to her.
She is a celebrity. If any celebrity had a downfall like she has then they would cover it no matter what else was going on at the time.
And dont worry every other story on tv is circled around the debates.

Bob George

01-02-2008, 10:22 AM

Dangerous Incorporated

01-02-2008, 10:23 AM

The reason people are following this Britney Spears story so heavily is because shes a celebrity that people really care about.

Its not necessarily because people care about her, its because ppl (especially the media) like to build people up and then tear them down and love to watch them fall. Its like the scene of an accident where everyone slows down to see the disaster. Well Brits is the disaster and the media is everyone slowing down to take a look. We're the people who get told about what happened and want to check it out for ourselves.

Nobody of Brits celebrity stature has been sent to the looney bin either. You cant write this tish and people seem to love it.

Im not a fan of Brits and the only ppl I care about in this situation is her kids so for their sake I hope she "dusts of her butt and gets her self-respect back".

suspicious_mind

01-02-2008, 10:40 AM

I just think it's all too much when Americans should really be focusing on other issues. And I don't think you have to be American to realize the media pays too much attention to celebrities. I've spent a lot of time in the UK. If you this the US is bad you aint seen nothin yet.

I agree somewhat - but to be perfectly honest they dont really focus alot on it. They just give updates that last MAYBE 5 minutes then they move on. Now if you watch something like the E Channel that does focus on celebrities then of course you are gonna get more.

Its not necessarily because people care about her, its because ppl (especially the media) like to build people up and then tear them down and love to watch them fall. Its like the scene of an accident where everyone slows down to see the disaster. Well Brits is the disaster and the media is everyone slowing down to take a look. We're the people who get told about what happened and want to check it out for ourselves.

Nobody of Brits celebrity stature has been sent to the looney bin either. You cant write this tish and people seem to love it.

Im not a fan of Brits and the only ppl I care about in this situation is her kids so for their sake I hope she "dusts of her butt and gets her self-respect back".

Thats not true at all. No one wants to see her fall, shes making herself fall all on her own. Its just interesting to people if they are fans or not because shes fallen so far so fast and i think people are just shocked more than anything.
Like i said - ALL the stations say all positive things about her. You arent here so u probably wouldnt know would you?

Dangerous Incorporated

01-02-2008, 10:46 AM

No one wants to see her fall, shes making herself fall all on her own. You arent here so u probably wouldnt know would you?

Trust me the media love to watch her fall. She's giving them a show thats making them millions for nothing.

Plus I have cable (which is mostly American TV) and the net and see enough to know and most of them pay her out.

Bob George

01-02-2008, 10:47 AM

Thats not true at all. No one wants to see her fall, shes making herself fall all on her own.

^ Did Michael Jackson make himself fall?

I think the media loves doing this. They love building someone up just to tear them down. It Australia we call it the "tall poppy" syndrome. If someone becomes too famous, too successful, people like to bring them back down to their level.

Dangerous Incorporated

01-02-2008, 10:51 AM

^ Did Michael Jackson make himself fall?

I think the media loves doing this. They love building someone up just to tear them down. It Australia we call it the "tall poppy" syndrome. If someone becomes too famous, too successful, people like to bring them back down to their level.

Exactly. I agree.

suspicious_mind

01-02-2008, 10:55 AM

Trust me the media love to watch her fall. She's giving them a show thats making them millions for nothing.

Plus I have cable (which is mostly American TV) and the net and see enough to know and most of them pay her out.

Whatever....its comments like that which is why she is in the position shes in. People are enabling her behavior by blaming it on everyone else.
If she didnt do the things she did then there would be nothing to talk about.

^ Did Michael Jackson make himself fall?

I think the media loves doing this. They love building someone up just to tear them down. It Australia we call it the "tall poppy" syndrome. If someone becomes too famous, too successful, people like to bring them back down to their level.

Well i think the fact that Britney is doing this to herself and in Michaels situation there were two boys who lied - so i dont see where one person has anything to do with each other. Do you?
He wasnt 'torn down' here until those boys said what they did. Period. Then some people started to believe it and obviously if you believe that then u arent gonna like him anymore.

Bob George

01-02-2008, 11:05 AM

suspicious_mind

01-02-2008, 11:10 AM

No, no, it started long before that. As soon as his Diana Ross looking ass was signing "Bad" they jumped on him like vultures on a dead corpse. That wasn't even the start of the MJ bashing. But it's when it got real bad. As early as 1984/85 they were media programs bashing Michael and even then saying he had an addiction to plastic surgery and saying he wasn't proud of his natural race because even then they could see signs of the vitiligo taking effect. Ofcourse, they didn't know it was vitiligo at the time, they just bashed him relentlessly. But Michael pretty much did nothing to deserve the media bashing. And IMO, Britney didn't do anything to deserve the crap she gets. Since when does losing your mind a little warrant such a huge onslaught of media bashing and public ridicule?

Oh lets not go there. If you are saying that the media is the fault of his demise here then - okay yeah.
No one does anything to 'deserve' the media bashing as u call it, but all of them know that if they do something negative they are gonna get press for it. They ALL know that. Its not just Britney - its not just Michael - its ALL of them. Its always been that way.

Datsymay

01-02-2008, 11:12 AM

No, no, it started long before that. As soon as his Diana Ross looking ass was signing "Bad" they jumped on him like vultures on a dead corpse. That wasn't even the start of the MJ bashing. But it's when it got real bad. As early as 1984/85 they were media programs bashing Michael and even then saying he had an addiction to plastic surgery and saying he wasn't proud of his natural race because even then they could see signs of the vitiligo taking effect. Ofcourse, they didn't know it was vitiligo at the time, they just bashed him relentlessly. But Michael pretty much did nothing to deserve the media bashing. And IMO, Britney didn't do anything to deserve the crap she gets. Since when does losing your mind a little warrant such a huge onslaught of media bashing and public ridicule?
The media Killed Princess Diana, they tried to ruin Michael Jackson and now they are driving Britney round the bend. They are vultures. I hate the lot of them. The govt cannot do anything to control them because they are a part of the system.:mello:

Dangerous Incorporated

01-02-2008, 11:15 AM

Whatever....its comments like that which is why she is in the position shes in.

Well i think the fact that Britney is doing this to herself

You contradicted yourself there. Brits to blame for all of this and nobody else. No the media, not her fans, not me only Brits who is responsible for Brits actions.

suspicious_mind

01-02-2008, 11:20 AM

You contradicted yourself there. Brits to blame for all of this and nobody else. No the media, not her fans, not me only Brits who is responsible for Brits actions.

I didnt contradict myself :mello:
U saying that its the medias fault is enabling her behavior. In other words...its making it seem like its okay.

suspicious_mind

01-02-2008, 11:25 AM

Anywayssssssssssssssss.....lets get back on topic shall we?

(From tmz) http://www.tmz.com/category/britney-spears

Sources at UCLA Medical Center tell TMZ Britney Spears has been classified as "G.D." -- Gravely Disabled. That is a huge and dangerous deal. That means the patient is unable to take care of basic needs, such as the acquisition of food, clothing or shelter. Being G.D. is one of the criteria for involuntary commitment.

Several health care professionals tell us Britney has fallen into a "manic state" due to her bipolar disorder. We're also told she arrived at the hospital this morning at around 2:15 AM, but wasn't admitted until 4:15 AM because she was causing such a scene in the hospital.

We first reported that Britney accused her mother of sleeping with her boyfriend. Now we have more. We're told Britney screamed, "The only reason she's admitting me is because she wants to be alone with her boyfriend! She wants to sleep with my boyfriend!!" Britney never said exactly who she was talking about.

When Brit calmed down, she talked about her kids, how much she misses them and how it's unfair that she doesn't have them.

Reeta

01-02-2008, 11:28 AM

You're kidding, right?

Britney did nothing wrong and she was being harrassed and hounded by paparazzi. I would be just as mad and irritated if my life was constantly like that everyday.

Sorry I wasn't kidding. Watch the video again and ask where's the dignity Brit used to have? She's just basically feeding the paps and tabloids with a behaviour and acts like that one. When you say nothing, there's nothing to report.

Dangerous Incorporated

01-02-2008, 11:30 AM

I didnt contradict myself :mello:
U saying that its the medias fault is enabling her behavior. In other words...its making it seem like its okay.

Your putting words in my mouth. You didnt read what you quoted and I didnt say it was the medias fault in any other post either. I said that Brits is the car wreck, and the passerbys who slow down to look at the disaster are the media. Brits is her own worst enemy. The media are doing what they've always done, cashed in on others misfortune.

Dangerous Incorporated

01-02-2008, 11:33 AM

Anywayssssssssssssssss.....lets get back on topic shall we?

This is what the topic is. This thread is for such discussions.

(From tmz) http://www.tmz.com/category/britney-spears

Sources at UCLA Medical Center tell TMZ Britney Spears has been classified as "G.D." -- Gravely Disabled. That is a huge and dangerous deal. That means the patient is unable to take care of basic needs, such as the acquisition of food, clothing or shelter. Being G.D. is one of the criteria for involuntary commitment.

Several health care professionals tell us Britney has fallen into a "manic state" due to her bipolar disorder. We're also told she arrived at the hospital this morning at around 2:15 AM, but wasn't admitted until 4:15 AM because she was causing such a scene in the hospital.

We first reported that Britney accused her mother of sleeping with her boyfriend. Now we have more. We're told Britney screamed, "The only reason she's admitting me is because she wants to be alone with her boyfriend! She wants to sleep with my boyfriend!!" Britney never said exactly who she was talking about.

When Brit calmed down, she talked about her kids, how much she misses them and how it's unfair that she doesn't have them.

You're not really reading what others are actually posting are you? I already posted this news.

suspicious_mind

01-02-2008, 11:40 AM

This is what the topic is. This thread is for such discussions.

You're not really reading what others are actually posting are you? I already posted this news.

Get a grip.

Datsymay

01-02-2008, 11:45 AM

Sorry I wasn't kidding. Watch the video again and ask where's the dignity Brit used to have? She's just basically feeding the paps and tabloids with a behaviour and acts like that one. When you say nothing, there's nothing to report.
When one is sick, mentally, they hardly have control over what they do or say. That is unfortunate. Poor girl.:mello:

Dangerous Incorporated

01-02-2008, 11:49 AM

Get a grip.
:lol:Yeah um I know whats going on unlike some. Im not the one misconstruing what people say despite quoting them and then posting what others have post all for one reason...not opening ones eyes! :P

suspicious_mind

01-02-2008, 11:55 AM

:lol:Yeah um I know whats going on unlike some. Im not the one misconstruing what people say despite quoting them and then posting what others have post all for one reason...not opening ones eyes! :P

Um. Okay?

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http://x17online.com/celebrities/britney_spears/

Theres the very latest on the situation.....they dont seem to know much more than they did yesterday.
I really hope shes kept more than 72 hours.

Dangerous Incorporated

01-02-2008, 12:04 PM

My sentiments exactly.;)

Roxanne

01-02-2008, 12:39 PM

suspicious_mind

01-02-2008, 12:42 PM

Dangerous Incorporated

01-02-2008, 12:49 PM

Bob George

01-02-2008, 12:53 PM

lol @ this thread

suspicious_mind

01-02-2008, 12:53 PM

:oOh now you agree but when I say it you challenge me. :lol:

Would you just get over it?
And no thats not exactly what uve been saying.

Datsymay

01-02-2008, 12:57 PM

can we plz leave michael outta here ? hes got nothing to do with this subject.
why bring him into every goddamn subject thats totally unrelated to him ?
and nobodys driving britney round the bend. the girl is mentally ill. she has bipolar disorder or whatever. she needs psychotherapy. its got nothing to do with the tabloids and the media. they take advantage of her whole situation so they can get money outta this yes. but they're not responsible for whats happening to her right now.
I disagree with that. In everything there is cause and effect. The media is right in the centre of it all. People don't just get mentally ill, it takes something to trigger it off. The media has been hounding this girl for a long time now, just like they hounded MJ and Diana. Diana also had a mental illness not unlike Britney's. MJ was strong, he had a strong family bond and the love and support from friends and fand, This girl seems to have noone.

suspicious_mind

01-02-2008, 01:04 PM

I disagree with that. In everything there is cause and effect. The media is right in the centre of it all. People don't just get mentally ill, it takes something to trigger it off. The media has been hounding this girl for a long time now, just like they hounded MJ and Diana. Diana also had a mental illness not unlike Britney's. MJ was strong, he had a strong family bond and the love and support from friends and fand, This girl seems to have noone.

People dont get bipolar disorder because of the media. If that was the case then everyone thats a celebrity would have that.
I dont get why on earth some fans want to have someone to blame for things like this. Ill never ever understand that.

Reeta

01-02-2008, 01:08 PM

When one is sick, mentally, they hardly have control over what they do or say. That is unfortunate. Poor girl.:mello:

Yes I know she's mentally ill, but don't you agree then she should be hospitalized or something (and more than just for a few hours) so her condition could be taken care of and not going out and about giving paps what they are after for?

Dangerous Incorporated

01-02-2008, 01:08 PM

Would you just get over it?
And no thats not exactly what uve been saying.

Another clear case of you not reading my posts properly because um yeah thats exactly what Ive been saying.:rolleyes:

Get over what exactly? You're blind sightedness?:lol:

suspicious_mind

01-02-2008, 01:13 PM

Another clear case of you not reading my posts properly because um yeah thats exactly what Ive been saying.:rolleyes:

Get over what exactly? You're blind sightedness?:lol:

Uve got me. I dont read ur posts. Happy now? lol
Now can u move on to something else? lol

Dangerous Incorporated

01-02-2008, 01:20 PM

I dont read ur posts.

Ummm.....neither would I! :lol:

Datsymay

01-02-2008, 01:25 PM

Yes I know she's mentally ill, but don't you agree then she should be hospitalized or something (and more than just for a few hours) so her condition could be taken care of and not going out and about giving paps what they are after for?

Yes, Britney needs care and attention and a LOT of love. The girl has been crying out for attention for many years now. When she married that friend and divorce hin the same day, that was a warning sign that something is wrong. Celebrity is sometimes a very lonely place to be. Not everyone is designed to cope with that type of attention. Princess Diana has serious mental disorder that nobody knew about. She too wasn't prepared for the media attention that she was getting. Many celebs kill themselves, some turn to drinks and drugs to cope with it. What Britney needs is space and time and she doesn't need the media in her face 24/7.
Taking her children away from her was also not a good idea. that was bound to make her situation worse. Poor girl.

Dangerous Incorporated

01-02-2008, 01:35 PM

The woman treating Britney Spears is -- thankfully -- being praised by her colleagues for her compassion and her credentials.

Dr. Deborah Nadel is "an excellent clinician and an excellent psychiatrist," says Harold Young, Clinical Director at the Maple Counseling Center in Beverly Hills, to People.

Board certified by the American Board of Psychiatry and Neurology, Nadel graduated from University of California Medical School in San Francisco 18 years ago, and she did her residency at UCLA, records show.

TMZ

Dangerous Incorporated

01-02-2008, 01:36 PM

Being locked up in the psych ward won't keep Britney from getting her fast food fix! Her manservant, Sam Lutfi, dropped by with some In-N-Out for the popwreck.

On the long walk to and from his car at UCLA Medical Center, Sam was bombarded with questions by TMZ. He said Britney is doing "good" and that he doesn't speak to Lynne Spears at all -- and denies that he argued with Brit's father, Jamie.

As TMZ first reported, an all-out war over Britney erupted early Thursday morning when she was committed -- with Sam reportedly fighting with Brit's family over who would control her treatment. As of now, her parents are in the driver's seat.

http://www.tmz.com/tmz_main_video?titleid=1399286249

suspicious_mind

01-02-2008, 01:41 PM

I think this Sam/her parents thing is gonna do Britney more harm than good. Sam should have NO say so about her treatment options what-so-ever.

Dangerous Incorporated

01-02-2008, 01:49 PM

I think this Sam/her parents thing is gonna do Britney more harm than good. Sam should have NO say so about her treatment options what-so-ever.

I agree from what Ive read that he's causing nothing but trouble but can someone explain to me who exactly he is and why he is involved? I know he had legal papers from Brits saying he has control over medical decisions and Brits parents were very pissed about that but now the hospital is working with the parents.

suspicious_mind

01-02-2008, 01:56 PM

I agree from what Ive read that he's causing nothing but trouble but can someone explain to me who exactly he is and why he is involved? I know he had legal papers from Brits saying he has control over medical decisions and Brits parents were very pissed about that but now the hospital is working with the parents.

Well as far as im aware and by what ive seen and heard he started out as her friend along with that Alli person but now hes calling himself her 'manager'. :rolleyes: I didnt know he had legal papers? Omg...Surely she didnt give him power of attorney? I certainly HOPE not for her sake.
I think hes as dangerous as Adnan is. He just seems to be sliming his way into her life just for the fact of being there. But by what u and i have been posting it seems like Britney is letting him do it by telling her mom to 'shut up' when she tries to counteract what Sam does.
Ugh this whole situation is a total mess. I wish Lynne would do what she says and take Britney back to Louisiana with her for awaile to get her away from Sam and Adnan - maybe then she would come back a whole new person and get her kids back? One can only hope.

Bob George

01-02-2008, 02:00 PM

I wish she had someone in her life that really cared about her.

Dangerous Incorporated

01-02-2008, 02:07 PM

Well as far as im aware and by what ive seen and heard he started out as her friend along with that Alli person but now hes calling himself her 'manager'. :rolleyes: I didnt know he had legal papers? Omg...Surely she didnt give him power of attorney? I certainly HOPE not for her sake.
I think hes as dangerous as Adnan is. He just seems to be sliming his way into her life just for the fact of being there. But by what u and i have been posting it seems like Britney is letting him do it by telling her mom to 'shut up' when she tries to counteract what Sam does.
Ugh this whole situation is a total mess. I wish Lynne would do what she says and take Britney back to Louisiana with her for awaile to get her away from Sam and Adnan - maybe then she would come back a whole new person and get her kids back? One can only hope.

In the interview with The Insider, Adnan was blaming Sam for Brits recent troubles.

Where is Adnan in all this? I heard Brits call for him once on a video that was after the interview he did so they were still talking but I havent heard anything about him since Brits was committed.

TMZ has learned there is a bitter fight underway as this story is published. It's taking place in the halls of UCLA Medical Center. As of right now, Jamie and Lynne Spears have been told they are not calling the shots in making medical decisions on behalf of Britney. Right now, it appears Sam Lutfi is in the driver's seat, but that could all change.

Sources tell us after Britney's stay at Cedars earlier this month, she had her lawyers draft paperwork making it clear she did not want her parents involved in making medical decisions on her behalf. We're told her dad had gone ballistic back then, screaming and swearing at Lutfi -- even pushing him -- in front of Britney.

As to what paperwork was signed, the cleanest thing would be if Britney signed a durable power of attorney, giving someone power to make medical decisions on her behalf in an emergency. We are told no such document was signed, but somehow Britney made it clear she wanted Lutfi to make those decisions.

Right now, the doctors at UCLA are working with Lutfi and not the parents, but lawyers have been called and the tension in the air is thick. We're told Jamie was screaming at Sam in the hallway, accusing him of trying to control his daughter's mind.

TMZ has learned Britney's parents have won round one in the tug of war with Sam Lutfi. We're told the doctors at UCLA are now "fully cooperating" with the parents in the treatment of Britney Spears, however, the war probably is not over until a judge signs an order as to who has control.

By the way, the men in white coats are giving props to LAPD's "SMART Unit" which specializes in mental health cases for coordinating the events that went down last night and early this morning.

UPDATE: Sam Lutfi left the hospital before 4:00 AM. Papa Jamie just left.

sweet princess

01-02-2008, 02:42 PM

I hope she gets the help she needs and sam should just out of it.
Her parents are the ones thar should have their say on her medical decisions
not sam. there's my 3 cents

Roxanne

01-02-2008, 02:57 PM

Taking her children away from her was also not a good idea. that was bound to make her situation worse. Poor girl.

actually that was a very good idea as she could easily harm them without even realizing it.

Roxanne

01-02-2008, 03:17 PM

I disagree with that. In everything there is cause and effect. The media is right in the centre of it all. People don't just get mentally ill, it takes something to trigger it off. The media has been hounding this girl for a long time now,

most cases of ppl with a mental illness have a family history of mental illnesses.
also the abuse of drugs and alcohol have a lot to do with that too
if she wasnt famous she would be in the same place right now
maybe ur right and the media had sth to do with some of her breakdowns etc but they're certainly not in the centre of it all. many infamous ppl like u and me get mentally ill everyday.
nobody notice them cuz they're not celebs like britney.
also, i'd like to remind u that the media had always been positive towards her until the day she started having probs and she started acting odd. maybe the media made her mental situation worse but even if they were totally positive towards her she'd be where she is right now. in the psychiatric clinic getting a mental evaluation...
i do feel sorry for her and i do wish her well of course but i cant ignore the fact that she brought it all to herself. u dont go crazy cuz u got paps hounding u and tabloids talking trash about u. tabloids talk trash about everyone. its their job. every friggin hollywood celeb is being hounded by paps all the time. not just brit. so why she went crazy and noboyd else ?
its like this: some infamous ppl (like u and me) dont go crazy some do (like jannut lol)
some famous ppl dont go crazy and some do
celeb are humans just like us. they can get sick both physically and mentally just like us
bipolar disorder is a mental illness just like cancer is a physical illness
if she had cancer we wouldnt blame the media would we ? so why blame it now that she has a mental illness ? i'm a psychology student and i can safely tell u that u can get bipolar disorder even if ur the happiest person alive with no troubles whatsoever

Datsymay

01-02-2008, 03:30 PM

most cases of ppl with a mental illness have a family history of mental illnesses.
also the abuse of drugs and alcohol have a lot to do with that too
if she wasnt famous she would be in the same place right now
maybe ur right and the media had sth to do with some of her breakdowns etc but they're certainly not in the centre of it all. many infamous ppl like u and me get mentally ill everyday.
nobody notice them cuz they're not celebs like britney.
also, i'd like to remind u that the media had always been positive towards her until the day she started having probs and she started acting odd. maybe the media made her mental situation worse but even if they were totally positive towards her she'd be where she is right now. in the psychiatric clinic getting a mental evaluation...
i do feel sorry for her and i do wish her well of course but i cant ignore the fact that she brought it all to herself. u dont go crazy cuz u got paps hounding u and tabloids talking trash about u. tabloids talk trash about everyone. its their job. every friggin hollywood celeb is being hounded by paps all the time. not just brit. so why she went crazy and noboyd else ?
its like this: some infamous ppl (like u and me) dont go crazy some do (like jannut lol)
some famous ppl dont go crazy and some do
celeb are humans just like us. they can get sick both physically and mentally just like us
bipolar disorder is a mental illness just like cancer is a physical illness
if she had cancer we wouldnt blame the media would we ? so why blame it now that she has a mental illness ? i'm a psychology student and i can safely tell u that u can get bipolar disorder even if ur the happiest person alive with no troubles whatsoever
Roxanne, many people are prone to mental illness. because of genes of trama in their childhood or whatever, however, these people could manage very well until there is a trigger to send them off the edge. Some of the things that can trigger such illness is the feeling of worthlessness,self loathing, low self-esteem, and lack of love. If you are sailing high in the charts you get a lot of people who just want you for what you can give them, that can be a trigger. If you are constantly critcised by fans or media, that too can be a trigger, also If you feel that the man you love only wants you for your money. Anything could have triggered this type of behaviour and send her over the edge. The media has exaserbated her problem, and when she cut her hair in public, that was when someone should have come right in there and grabbed hold of her and give her some love. That was a cry for help. Nobody did a damn thing, we left her at the mercies of the hyenas and we laughed at her.
We should be ashamed of ourselved. WE watched this poor girl having a melt down in a public place and none of us tried to do anything about it. How do we know how those pictures that the paps took and distributed around the world, without her permission, have affected her self esteem, we will never know. :huh:

suspicious_mind

01-02-2008, 04:03 PM

In the interview with The Insider, Adnan was blaming Sam for Brits recent troubles.

Where is Adnan in all this? I heard Brits call for him once on a video that was after the interview he did so they were still talking but I havent heard anything about him since Brits was committed.

The only thing ive heard so far about Adnan is that he rode with Lynne Spears to the hospital to see Britney when she arrived.

Okay right now on tv at this moment they are saying that Britney is now in the hands of DOCTORS, not Sam or Lynne. So thats a GOOD THING! :)

Roxanne

01-02-2008, 04:36 PM

Roxanne, many people are prone to mental illness. because of genes of trama in their childhood or whatever, however, these people could manage very well untl there is a trigger to send them off the edge. One of the things that can trigger such illness is the feeling of worthlessness, low selfesteem, and lack of love. If you are sailing high in the charts you get a lot of people who just want you for what you can give them, that can be a trigger. If you are constantly critcised by fans or media, that too can be a trigger, also If you feel that the man you l;ove only want you for your money. Anything can trigger this type of behaviour amnd send her over the edge. The media has exaerbatted her problem, amnd when she cut her hair in public, that was when someone should have come right in there and grabbed hold of her and give her some love. That was a cry for help. Nobody did a damn thing, we left her at the mercies of the hyenas and we laughed at her.
We should be a shamed of our selved. WE watched this poor girl having a melt down in a public place and none of us tied to do anything about it. How do we know how those pictures that the paps took without her permission have affected her self esteem, we will never know. :huh:

yes i think u got a great point there however this kind of mental illness cannot be cured by love alone not even in its first stages. there are ppl who suffer from depression (which is a very light mental illness comparing to bipolar disorder) and no matter how much love they get they're still depressed. i think ppl confuse mental illnesses with common breakdowns etc
we all get depressed from time to time but actually suffering from depression on a regular basis and not being able to enjoy ur life however perfect it might be is a totally different thing. we all have our "crazy" moments etc but we're not mentally ill. i agree with u to an extent when u say "the media pushed her over the edge" and that "we dont know how things have affected her". thats true.

Mechi

01-02-2008, 07:48 PM

You guys are both right... there can be very well a trigger like huge stress (btw no matter if positive or negative, example positive: birth of a long wanted child, example negative: break of marriage), but there doesn't have to be a trigger always to detect mental illness.
There can be some kind of family history of mental illnesses but there doesn't have to be.

You always have to do some kind of anamnesis with your client when you really want to know what you're talking about. Good psychiatrists and good psychologists refuse from speculating in public if they did not even talk with their patient/client at least cuz it's simply nonsense, means without any meaning, or better reliability. Ppl who do, well it's just poor attention seeking conduct of greedy ppl, nothing else.

We don't know what's going on between Britney, her family, her ex-husband, her manager or whomever... but yeah guess it's fun to just talk about it.
Yeah ppl speculate just for the fun. As if the world doesn't know real problems effecting everybodies life truely.

Dangerous Incorporated

01-02-2008, 09:51 PM

We should be ashamed of ourselved. WE watched this poor girl having a melt down in a public place and none of us tried to do anything about it. How do we know how those pictures that the paps took and distributed around the world, without her permission, have affected her self esteem, we will never know.

Are you serious? Be ashamed come on? Brits is the one at fault here as well as all the people around her....not the rest of the world!!!

And what did you expect anyone to do? Run up to her and say, "Hey you're gonna be committed so you be get to the doctor and get help!" She and everyone else would think we we're the ones who need to be committed.

Besides Brits LOVES the paps and the attention. She asks for it most of the time and talks to the paps so casually and calls the 'baby'.

Dangerous Incorporated

01-02-2008, 09:52 PM

Jamie and Lynne Spears are heading in to an L.A. County Courtroom to establish a conservatorship over their daughter.

TMZ

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http://www.tmz.com/

Dangerous Incorporated

01-02-2008, 09:52 PM

A Los Angeles court commissioner has placed Britney Spears and her estate under temporary conservatorship.

That means her financial assets and other holdings will be managed by a conservator -- the conservators are Jamie Spears and attorney Andrew Wallet.

The judge did not appoint a conservator to make medical decisions on behalf of Brit because the necessary paperwork was not filed.

As for the conservatorship that was filed -- it is only temporary -- until Monday.

A conservatorship is created when it is deemed that a person cannot care for themselves or handle his or her own affairs.

Source: TMZ

FinalEyes

01-02-2008, 10:02 PM

Are you serious? Be ashamed come on? Brits is the one at fault here as well as all the people around her....not the rest of the world!!!

And what did you expect anyone to do? Run up to her and say, "Hey you're gonna be committed so you be get to the doctor and get help!" She and everyone else would think we we're the ones who need to be committed.

Besides Brits LOVES the paps and the attention. She asks for it most of the time and talks to the paps so casually and calls the 'baby'.

Have you ever heard the saying, "All it takes for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing?" Mental illness is serious, and if Britney does have a mental illness and everybody just stood aside and watched it happen, that makes it even worse. It's like watching someone having a seizure, or passing out from diabetes, and doing nothing to help them. Those people were, in a way, enabling Britney to get sick.

Just because someone's famous, doesn't mean that they're not a human being.

Dangerous Incorporated

01-02-2008, 10:12 PM

Have you ever heard the saying, "All it takes for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing?" Mental illness is serious, and if Britney does have a mental illness and everybody just stood aside and watched it happen, that makes it even worse. It's like watching someone having a seizure, or passing out from diabetes, and doing nothing to help them. Those people were, in a way, enabling Britney to get sick.

Just because someone's famous, doesn't mean that they're not a human being.

Oh because we're all qualified medical experts that can determine these things from the outside looking in are we? And nobody would be able to get into her circle anyway. Plus if Brits isnt listening to her family, the why would she listen to some stranger? Nothing we could do would have helped her. Who are you kidding?

Datsymay

01-02-2008, 10:26 PM

Datsymay

01-02-2008, 10:33 PM

Oh because we're all qualified medical experts that can determine these things from the outside looking in are we? And nobody would be able to get into her circle anyway. Plus if Brits isnt listening to her family, the why would she listen to some stranger? Nothing we could do would have helped her. Who are you kidding?
If enough of us had written oin or phone in and prtest when the media was making fun of her, instead of condemning her actions, the media would have thought twice about prolonging her agony. It can be done. When Frank Bruno was ill and had to go to hospital, the daily mail wrote a piece, makinf fun of him. There was a national outcry and the media withdrew the piece and appologised to Frank Bruno. The people of America should have done something a long tiime age, esp when the paps took that picture of her private and plastered it all over the world's media. This child was sick, and they took pictures of her private and showed the whole world.What a sick people we have become.:(

Dangerous Incorporated

01-02-2008, 10:49 PM

How can you blame someone for their actions when they are mentally ill?:mello:

Well we certainly arent at fault here. The ppl who should have done something earlier is her family and the ppl in her inner circle.

The conservators who were appointed to manage Britney's assets have broad authority, including changing the locks to her house and keeping out anyone they want -- we're guessin' that's Sam Lutfi.

The judge granted the conservators -- Jamie Spears and a lawyer co-conservators -- have the power to hire 24-hour security at her house, access her medical records and communicate with treating physicians.

They also have the power to make any decisions on her behalf, and can revoke any contracts she may have made recently -- which might include the new Mercedes she just bought.

The judge in the hearing did not give the conservators power to make medical decisions on behalf of Britney, but that really is the upshot.

The conservators -- Jamie Spears and Andrew Wallet -- can communicate with Brit's doctors and access medical records.

In terms of managing Brit's estate, the function of Wallet -- a respected lawyer who has handled many similar matters -- is to ensure there is an independent voice in the management of her estate, and we're told that's something Jamie and Lynne are down with.

The effect of the order is that Sam Lutfi has, at least temporarily, been shut out of Britney's world. He will not be able to go to her home or the hospital, or have any other contact with her.

The judge in the hearing today has issued a restraining order against SOMEONE -- ordering that person to stay away from Britney Spears.

Although the judge didn't say specifically who that someone was -- it's clear that person is Sam Lutfi.

The judge found, in effect, that Lutfi has been harassing Britney. Thus the civil harassment restraining order.

This will effectively bar Lutfi from going to the hospital.

The restraining order is in effect for 22 days, but uber-attorney Goldie Schon tells TMZ that Brit's folks could turn it into a permanent order at the end of those 22 days.

Source: TMZ

FinalEyes

01-02-2008, 11:43 PM

Oh because we're all qualified medical experts that can determine these things from the outside looking in are we? And nobody would be able to get into her circle anyway. Plus if Brits isnt listening to her family, the why would she listen to some stranger? Nothing we could do would have helped her. Who are you kidding?

Maybe not, but I'm sure if more people gave her an indication that she needed help, she would have gotten help sooner than this. She's obviously been sick for a long time, and nobody (her family, her managers, her friends, her fans) went up to her and said, "Britney, you need help." Mental illness is the scariest thing to cope with, and most of the time someone who's mentally ill doesn't want to face that they have a problem. And it doesn't help when you're surrounded by Yes men, that agree with everything you do as long as you're bringing in a steady paycheck.

Instead of pretending that everything was rosy, if her fans had protested and made it clear to Britney that she needed help, it might have sunk in sooner than this. That's all I'm saying.

Dangerous Incorporated

02-02-2008, 01:20 AM

Instead of pretending that everything was rosy, if her fans had protested and made it clear to Britney that she needed help, it might have sunk in sooner than this. That's all I'm saying.

What fans are going to protest? Then it would look like Brits fans are against her. Honestly could you image people protesting saying she's mental and needs to be committed? Thats not supporting her. What if we as MJ fans started protesting saying, MJ's a bad parent cuz he dangled his baby? We wouldnt be supporting MJ or be fans then would we? You see its not our responsibility, its her freinds and families responsibility, as well as K-Fed. Not the fans, the media or anyone else especially being as none of us are qualified to determine who needs help and who doesnt.

MJzPrincess1982

02-02-2008, 02:34 AM

Like her shopping is dramatic because of her!!!

Some of ya'all need to understand that some of this isn't her fault. And then, some of it is. Maybe it's drama cause some people are paying waaayy too much attention to her and the TV.

The press has been over-exagerating things for some time...they're the drama and media whores!

Dangerous Incorporated

02-02-2008, 07:38 AM

Sources tell TMZ Britney's divorce lawyers and the lawyers representing the conservatorship may collide in a "last one standing" dispute.

We know Britney's divorce team at the law firm of Trope and Trope has been dealing with newly-exiled Sam Lutfi and believes he is well-meaning. Jamie Spears, the freshly appointed co-conservator, has made it clear he dislikes the Trope firm and wants them out of Britney's life -- in large part because of the firm's alliance with Sam.

Lutfi is furious at the commissioner who issued the various orders today and has been in touch with Trope and Trope numerous times this afternoon. Based on those conversations, the firm believes the orders defy Britney's wishes because she feels great ill will toward her dad.

So here's the scenario: It's possible Trope and Trope could go to court Monday at 1:30 PM PT and challenge the choice of conservator. If Jamie Spears is in it for the long haul, it's also possible one of his first orders of business will be to 86 Trope and Trope from Britney's life.

Minutes ago, Britney Spears made two calls at the UCLA Psych Ward and went crazy on the phone after learning that her dad is now the conservator of her estate.

In a heavy British accent, a ballistic Brit screamed (about her parents), "I'm so sick of all of this they can have the goddamn house and stick it up their f**king asses. Actually, no they can't."

Brit, who sounded drugged up, was furious that her dad became a conservator of her estate. She was screaming at the top of her lungs, at times impossible to understand. At one point she screamed, "Nobody's taking my house. Who is my family?"

Britney said she did not want her parents near her home and at one point said she would go to court to fight them.

She is under the impression she's getting out of the hospital tonight.

TMZ

Datsymay

02-02-2008, 08:49 AM

Reeta

02-02-2008, 11:00 AM

How can you blame someone for their actions when they are mentally ill?:mello:

Oh please, like her illness is the reason for everything she does. In my opinion sometimes she's just craving for attention and she surely knows how to do it! She knows paps are there 24/7 to catch up the newest pics of her and seems like sometimes she's just feeding them with all the drama.
Take for example Kevin, what he's done since all this hulabaloo started? Absolutely nothing, he hasn't been seen that much, he's at home with the children, keeping very low profile. He knows when it's time to step back so there's nothing that can be used against him when it comes to the custody of their kids. He tries to have as normal life as possible while Brit is digging her own grave. And don't get me wrong, of course I'd like to see Brit being with her kids, she's the mother after all, but all these things that has happened lately, no matter if it's her fault or not, aren't helping her at all to get the kids back.

Datsymay

02-02-2008, 11:12 AM

Oh please, like her illness is the reason for everything she does. In my opinion sometimes she's just craving for attention and she surely knows how to do it! She knows paps are there 24/7 to catch up the newest pics of her and seems like sometimes she's just feeding them with all the drama.
Take for example Kevin, what he's done since all this hulabaloo started? Absolutely nothing, he hasn't been seen that much, he's at home with the children, keeping very low profile. He knows when it's time to step back so there's nothing that can be used against him when it comes to the custody of their kids. He tries to have as normal life as possible while Brit is digging her own grave. And don't get me wrong, of course I'd like to see Brit being with her kids, she's the mother after all, but all these things that has happened lately, no matter if it's her fault or not, aren't helping her at all to get the kids back.
Well indeed Kevin is playing his cards right. hE GETS $60, OO0 A MONTH FOR LOOKING AFTER his own CHILDREN FROM THE WOMAN HE IS FIGHTING FOR CUSTODY, SO WHY SHOULDN'T HE BE A GOOD BoY. He IS Practically set for life.
Attention seeking is also a mental condition. It is an irrational behaviour, a cry for help.

If Britney is certified as having a mental condition she will not be legally responsible for any crime she commits from here on.:huh:

Reeta

02-02-2008, 12:07 PM

Attention seeking is also a mental condition. It is an irrational behaviour, a cry for help.

If Britney is certified as having a mental condition she will not be legally responsible for any crime she commits from here on.:huh:

But still I wouldn't say her illness is the reason for everything. And in case she'll be certified with mental illness, doesn't that mean it will be even more harder for her to get the children back? Because under the definition for the illness, there's a possibility she might hurt the kids or have unexpected behaviour around them. I wonder how the court will see her case then, do they think she's capable of taking care of the boys?

Datsymay

02-02-2008, 12:49 PM

But still I wouldn't say her illness is the reason for everything. And in case she'll be certified with mental illness, doesn't that mean it will be even more harder for her to get the children back? Because under the definition for the illness, there's a possibility she might hurt the kids or have unexpected behaviour around them. I wonder how the court will see her case then, do they think she's capable of taking care of the boys?
It depends on how severe the problem is. When her children were taken from her, it would have made her condition worse not helped it. I heard many criticised her for not behaving as if she cared, but I didn't criticise her for it, because right there she was showing signs of irrational behaviour. people who behavour like that are more dangerously ill than the ones who show emotions. Many times the people who commit suicide or the ones that take a gun to school and blow up the classroom, never show signs of emotion, yet they are seriously ill. Britney's lack of emotion is a serious part of her illness. She needs to fight what is happening to her. Her having to pay federline for looking after his children while she is denied custody compounds the situation. it seems to her that everybody wants a poece of her and nobody cares about her needs. It is a vicious world out there.

Reeta

02-02-2008, 02:43 PM

It depends on how severe the problem is. When her children were taken from her, it would have made her condition worse not helped it. I heard many criticised her for not behaving as if she cared, but I didn't criticise her for it, because right there she was showing signs of irrational behaviour. people who behavour like that are more dangerously ill than the ones who show emotions. Many times the people who commit suicide or the ones that take a gun to school and blow up the classroom, never show signs of emotion, yet they are seriously ill. Britney's lack of emotion is a serious part of her illness. She needs to fight what is happening to her. Her having to pay federline for looking after his children while she is denied custody compounds the situation. it seems to her that everybody wants a poece of her and nobody cares about her needs. It is a vicious world out there.

And when the children were taken away from her who's 'fault' was that? I don't think the court just decided to give them to Kevin for fun. Like the saying goes: what goes around, comes around. But one thing I just don't understand, why Brit keeps pushing everyone away? Her family is there for her, as far as I know they're there to help her.. Whatever the issues are between Brit and her family those should be forgotten for now and concentrate all the energy on Brits well-being. I agree she needs to fight for what is happening to her, but with a lifestyle she's been having the past weeks is not going to solve anything, it's just gonna get worse if she keeps being on tabloids every day. If I could give her an advice I'd say it'd be time to disappear from the public eye for the time her recovery would need...and please leave Adnan home. So she could dedicate all the time just for herself. She should get herself back in order, not only for her own sake, but also for her children's sake.

Forever_Mike

02-02-2008, 02:53 PM

mjtributepage

02-02-2008, 02:59 PM

i think its good that her parents are finally stepping in since the rest of the pple around her only want to gt better from he instead of really helping her get better first
and when you see the papers fom the courthearing in which his dad got all legal rights he was crying so he does care

Datsymay

02-02-2008, 03:25 PM

I feel for Britney...... man! I really pray that she gets through this. I just wonder who is feeding all the info (especially person stuff about her 'condition' etc) to the media. Some of it is obvious but some stuff is just too person and should be left out. Its a shame if its true about her parents and her house. I wonder if she really has anyone that really cares for her, someone that she respects.

Anyways I heard on the radio today that Kevin said that he married her to boost his rap-career!:shock: The DJ (at kissfm) even went on to say that it has worked for Kevin coz radios are playing his songs, then played one of Kevin's song (it sucks big time. lol)

Anyway its sad to see talentless celeb-wannabe's like him 'marrying' famous (and sometimes very lonely) people so as to boost their own game.
Not saying that Britney is completely faultless in this situation, but someone gotta reach out to her. Seriously!
I ageree. You look at the situation now where this man is getting big money now for looking after his own children and the woman who is payng him is not allowed to be with her own children. Kevin can play all the good guy all he wants but he won't fool me. He could have stretched out a helping hand to Britney as the mother of his children oif he wanted. Britney, however, is worth more to him dead than alive, cause the children that he now has custody of will inherit all she has.

Dangerous Incorporated

02-02-2008, 11:16 PM

If Britney is certified as having a mental condition she will not be legally responsible for any crime she commits from here on.:huh:
Actually the government wouldnt let a mental person whom they are aware of to be allowed in a position where she could commit a crime. She would be locked away.

Dangerous Incorporated

02-02-2008, 11:17 PM

It's not a done deal, but expect that sometime tonight, papers will be signed at UCLA extending Britney Spears' stay at the psych ward -- by 14 days.

It's an internal process -- done without a court order. But we're told it will indeed happen, and that's not surprising given her mental health. As we first reported, Britney's been diagnosed with severe bipolar disorder.

The ward Britney is in is considered one of the best in the nation for the treatment she is receiving.

TMZ

Dangerous Incorporated

02-02-2008, 11:18 PM

Law enforcement sources tell TMZ a crime report has been filed with the LAPD, alleging someone pilfered "valuable possessions" from Britney Spears' house after she was hospitalized at UCLA.

We're told the conservators filed the report, claiming the alleged theft occurred sometime between the time Britney was admitted to UCLA psych ward and the time the conservatorship papers were signed.

Sam Lutfi has not been named as a suspect, however, he had access to the house, and we know Brit's father, Jamie Spears, a co-conservator, strongly believes Sam has been up to no good.

Lutfi had no immediate comment.

UsMagazine.com (http://usmagazine.com/exclusive_robbery_reported_at_britney_spears_bever ly_hills_home) first broke the story that possessions were allegedly missing.

AllForMJ

03-02-2008, 12:36 AM

mello1

03-02-2008, 12:49 AM

Would anybody consider that her parents may well be a central part of her problem and she might very well hate their guts right now? Just because they are parents doesn't necessarily mean that they are good influences.
It really doesn't matter. This chick is mentally ill and I was wondering just when someone in that family was going to do the intervention and take conservatorship. This woman is just in no shape to deal with her life.

FinalEyes

03-02-2008, 01:48 AM

suspicious_mind

03-02-2008, 07:34 AM

Datsymay

03-02-2008, 09:03 AM

Actually the government wouldnt let a mental person whom they are aware of to be allowed in a position where she could commit a crime. She would be locked away.

Actually, there are many mental patients walking the streets. They get treatment in the community. They are considered safe as long as they take their medication. If, however, one of these patients commit a violent crime, they can plead diminish responsibility on grounds of ill health. That would be enough to let them off, even though they may end up in hospital. :)

Datsymay

03-02-2008, 09:06 AM

It really doesn't matter. This chick is mentally ill and I was wondering just when someone in that family was going to do the intervention and take conservatorship. This woman is just in no shape to deal with her life.
If you read all my post Mello, you will find that that is exactly my argument.:D
Anyway, the reason why I said that is because I got the impression that her parents were part of her problem, not the solution to it.

Datsymay

03-02-2008, 09:16 AM

What fans are going to protest? Then it would look like Brits fans are against her. Honestly could you image people protesting saying she's mental and needs to be committed? Thats not supporting her. What if we as MJ fans started protesting saying, MJ's a bad parent cuz he dangled his baby? We wouldnt be supporting MJ or be fans then would we? You see its not our responsibility, its her freinds and families responsibility, as well as K-Fed. Not the fans, the media or anyone else especially being as none of us are qualified to determine who needs help and who doesnt.
In mmy view, Britney is a public figure who has been held up to public ridicule. I do not expect the public to say to britney, 'You need help', it isn't our responsibilty to do that, But the public could take the initiative in rebuking the media who were taking advatage of her problem. We, the public have a voice in the matter, since we are the consumers.:)

Datsymay

03-02-2008, 09:27 AM

Gloria Allred had a lot to do with what Britney is going through in this battle for her children.

Gloria Allred did to Britney what she was trying to do to Michael Jackson and was successful this time.

Don't leave that witch out of the equation.
I agree with you. I was thinking last night that every trap that they laid for Michael has caught one of their own babes. Shame for Britney, but this is what they had in mind for Michael.:huh:

Dangerous Incorporated

03-02-2008, 09:49 AM

but this is what they had in mind for Michael.:huh:

What getting divorced, getting bipolar and then get committed? No what they wanted with MJ was worse, they wanted to put an innocent human in jail because of his enormous power and because of he's colour. Brits has no real power and is mentally ill and not caused by others all the others are deffo not helping.

Datsymay

03-02-2008, 10:04 AM

What getting divorced, getting bipolar and then get committed? No what they wanted with MJ was worse, they wanted to put an innocent human in jail because of his enormous power and because of he's colour. Brits has no real power and is mentally ill and not caused by others all the others are deffo not helping.
Yes, I agree, but what I mean is that they wanted to destroy him. If prison didn't do then a mental hospital and him losing his children would have been fine. They would have been salivating right now. I am agreeing with you. Anyway, this isnn't about MJ. I was just agreeing wih AllforMJ's commennt.:)

Dangerous Incorporated

03-02-2008, 10:16 AM

^^ And I agree with that :)

Datsymay

03-02-2008, 10:56 AM

^^ And I agree with that :)
Thank you:D

Dangerous Incorporated

05-02-2008, 02:38 AM

Here are the headlines from today's court hearing:

Jamie Spears is still the co-conservator of Britney's estate, as is Andrew Wallet.

The Commissioner did not give the conservators the power to fire Trope and Trope, Brit's divorce lawyers.

The Commissioner said, based on the restraining order, Sam Lutfi can have no contact whatsoever with Britney -- including e-mails, phone contact, etc.

The Commish extended the conservatorship to Valentine's Day.

The Commissioner said Adam Streisand had no legal basis for claiming he's Britney's new lawyer. There will be a hearing at some point to determine just how mentally competent Britney is.

Source: TMZ

Dangerous Incorporated

05-02-2008, 02:40 AM

Britney's paparazzi boytoy showed up with his very own paparazzo to visit her in the hospital -- and guess what? In addition to bringing his own cameraman, he brought pink roses.

TMZ shot Mr. Ghalib entering UCLA, but it is unknown if he was actually able to see her. He was overheard saying something into his cell phone about "while they're in court."
http://www.tmz.com/tmz_main_video?titleid=1404946997

Datsymay

05-02-2008, 08:32 AM

I wish the courts would order the paps to stay away from that poor child.

mjfan4ever2009

05-02-2008, 11:50 AM

I wish the courts would order the paps to stay away from that poor child.

I agree. The media is not helping the situation whether Britney wants them around or not. Either way, they need to stay away from her.

suspicious_mind

05-02-2008, 01:35 PM

I wish the courts would order the paps to stay away from that poor child.

That will never happen.

suspicious_mind

06-02-2008, 04:19 PM

Sam Admits to Giving Britney Handfulls Of Pills!

http://x17online.com/celebrities/britney_spears/

Marilyn Monroe

06-02-2008, 04:23 PM

god people around her are going to send her to an early grave....controlling her medicine? thats it!

FinalEyes

07-02-2008, 02:03 AM

Oh geez. :no: I really feel for Britney, she must be in a living hell.

suspicious_mind

07-02-2008, 12:03 PM

She got released yesterday......:(

mjfan4ever2009

07-02-2008, 06:07 PM

I'm a fan of Britney. But for her own sake, I'd like to know why she was allowed to leave the hospital so soon. After everything that has happened, the staff should not have been so quick to let her go. Her parents are worried out of their minds already. This will only make things worse. The girl needs help. And she's being pulled in and out of these places so fast that the chances of her relapsing might have tripled. She barely has one half a shred of time to really learn how to handle her issues. The people who really have her best interests at heart had made it quite clear to these folks at the hospital that she needs to go in and stay there for an extended period of time. But they let her out after almost six days when she really should have been there for at least two weeks with plenty of follow-ups after. For her health and safety, people whose job it is to help Britney shouldn't be taking so many risky chances. Whatever is happening to her has been going on for a year and a half now. And those people in there can't fix her practically overnight. They messed up big time. I'd like to see how they're going to try to justify this.

Soso Deaf

07-02-2008, 10:21 PM

hot ass mess....and she doesn't even know it. if those who truly cared and those in professions where they're paid to care had actually NOT dropped the ball, this wouldn't have gotten this far.

MJzPrincess1982

07-02-2008, 11:37 PM

They are saying that she FLASHED them her red panties when she is just sitting there in a really short dress. :rolleyes: What the heck..they effin love the attention and sensationalism, don't they?!

mjscarousal

08-02-2008, 12:11 AM

Oh leave the got damn girl alone damn!!(and im not even a big fan of hers) MJ had his ish and I have mine. WE ALL DO.. nobody is perfect... I could care less about when she is going here or there. I HOPE she gets back up but shoot I don't know her and the media twists ish up anyway so nothin is tru... They build you up just to tear ur ass down.

Soso Deaf

08-02-2008, 11:59 PM

um...celebs use the media. they know it can turn at any time.

everyone whose name ain't jamie, lynn, or jamie lynn, or brian need to leave her ass alone. let her get better and then the sam's and the adnan's can come back IF they were truly legit in the first plac.e let her ass make the decision when she has a clear head.

but she wanted controversy, and she got it. problem was, it backfired and now she has issues.

cass

09-02-2008, 03:04 AM

I agree with what Katie said about using the media and things backfiring.. But, I do feel really bad for Britney.. I hope she can get help, get her life back together and her children in her arms. I think alot of people have used her and her celebrity.. I think she is really confused and just don't know who to trust anymore. It's a sad situation..

noa2

09-02-2008, 09:01 AM

I don't think I feel sorry for her one bit. There are others in the world who needs my and others attention more. And there are famous people who can handle the fame thing without losing control. Get over yourself Brit and realise your not the center of the world. And if people weren't so obsessed with celebrities they would also feel alot better them self.

n3v3rland

11-02-2008, 04:36 AM

Dude, wth is with these "other" celebrity threads? I don't know, I'm just so confused right now. I'm pretty sure I signed into a Michael Jackson forum. :D

But to give my opinion...I feel sorry for her. I think she needs help....and K-Fed shouldn't have the kids

suspicious_mind

11-02-2008, 03:33 PM

http://i.realone.com/assets/rn/img/3/5/4/2/18312453.jpg

The Tragedy of Britney Spears
She was a pop princess. Now she's in and out of hospitals, rehab and court. How Britney lost it all.
VANESSA GRIGORIADIS

A pop star at the mall is an eternal cause for happiness, especially on a Sunday afternoon in the Valley. One moment, shoppers in the Westfield Topanga mall are living in the real world, monotonously selecting a new shade of eye shadow or rubbing perfume on wrists, but upon the rapture of Britney Spears, they are giggling, laughing, orgasmic, already sharing their secret on cell phones. "Her legs are actually really skinny," an adolescent whispers into her Sidekick, as Britney beelines for the Betsey Johnson boutique, pseudo-punk designer of evening dresses and splashy heels worn to suburban high school proms. In person, Britney is shockingly beautiful — clear skin, ruby lips, a perfectly proportioned twenty-six-year-old porcelain doll with a nasty weave. She cuts through the crowd swiftly, the way she used to when 20,000 adoring fans mobbed her outside a concert, with her paparazzi boyfriend, Adnan Ghalib, trailing behind.

Only a few kids are in the store, a young girl with her brother and two blondes checking out fake-gold charm bracelets. Britney rifles the racks as the Cure's "Pictures of You" blasts into the airless pink boutique, grabbing a pink lace dress, a few tight black numbers and a frilly red crop top, the kind of shirt that Britney used to wear all the time at seventeen but isn't really appropriate for anyone over that age. Then she ducks into the dressing room with Ghalib. He emerges with her black Am Ex.

The card won't go through, but they keep trying it.

"Please," begs Ghalib, "get this done quickly."

One of the girls runs to Britney's dressing room, explaining the situation through a pink gauze curtain.

A wail emerges from the cubby — guttural, vile, the kind of base animalistic shriek only heard at a family member's deathbed. "**** these bitches," screams Britney, each word ringing out between sobs. "These idiots can't do anything right!"

Ghalib dashes over to console her, but she's already spitting, growling, throwing a big bottle of soda on the floor so that it begins to spill underneath the curtain, and then she's got a box of tissues and is throwing them on top of the wet floor along with piles of discarded merchandise. A new card finally goes through, but by then Britney is out the door, leaving her shirt on the ground and replacing it with the red top. "**** you, **** people, ****, ****, ****," she keeps screaming, her face splotchy and red as she crosses the interminable mall floor, the crowd behind her growing larger and larger. "Leave us alone!" yells Ghalib.

The siblings run after Britney to get a video to put up on YouTube, and some of the shopgirls run after her to hand off the merchandise she left behind, and there's an entire bridal party wearing yellow T-shirts who have pulled out camera phones too. A crush of managers in black shirts and gold name tags try to keep the peace, but the crowd running after Britney gets larger, and now the shopgirls have *started to catch up to her, one of them slipping spectacularly in her platform shoes, grazing her elbow. She pulls herself up, mustering the strength to tap Britney's shoulder. "Um, I'm from the South too," she mumbles, "and I was wondering if I could get a picture with you for my little sister."

Britney turns to Ghalib and grabs his arm. "I don't want her talking to me!" she screams. She whirls around and stares the girl deep in the eyes, her lips almost vibrating with anger. "I don't know who you think I am, *****," she snarls, "but I'm not that person."