Confirmed New Album Collaborations & Info/Quotes Part 2 (May 2008 onwards)

[damien shields]

I ran out of characters in the original thread of this topic.
I will continue to update news from May 1st and onwards on THIS thread.
THE REST OF THE QUOTES (and there are HEAPS) CAN BE FOUND HERE--->>> http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=43987


Ne-yo speaks to 933 on 8 May 2008
What about the rumor you're workin' with Michael Jackson..
That is not a rumor, that's true. I'm submitting songs for his project.. they're being very very picky and patient, and tellin' me to be patient because he's.. honestly, i dunno what he's doing. I don't know what he's doing. Like, we'll submit songs and then he'll call and say, "Hey i really like number three, and the hook on number two is strong but you could change the verse, okay bye". Yeah, i've spoke to him on the phone. I actually got a chance to go and meet him - All of that, yeah.


RedOne speaks 16 May 2008
About MJ...
Honestly, I’m not allowed to talk about Michael at all. I just love him. I’m a big fan of his. There’s something going on, but I can’t talk about it.

About Vegas and the studio
The studio, it’s incredible. The sound is amazing and so is Las Vegas. I love Las Vegas. We get a lot of peace of mind in Las Vegas. It’s very nice. It feels good working in Vegas. It’s very convenient, so close to L.A. It’s like a dream world that helps you musically and creatively.


Ne-yo goes "1 on 1" with DJ Ekin 2 June 2008
I'm actually in the process of doing songs for Michael Jackson.. for his new project. Oh yeah, well, I'm trying anyway.. Im submitting songs, and ah, he'll call me and say, 'yeah I really like number 3, number 2 is aight, change the hook on number 1 and send it back to me', and then, you know, that would be it.. So I dunno what's gonna happen.. I dunno what he gonna keep or whatever but, just he fact that he even got a hold of me and was like, 'Yo, I really want you to put some stuff together for my album', thats like.. that was enough for me.. I called my mum and like I wowed out.. it was one of those.

Q: When's the album coming out?
I have no idea! That's why I say im trying.. because this has been going on for like a few months now, you know what I mean like.. He's being real selective, real picky.. because I mean it's gonna be a real important if it comes out you know so, I dunno.


Ne-Yo speaks on 91.5 on 6 June 2008
Mocha: So, speaking of writing songs for a lot of people, I heard, and this might just be a rumour, but the one and only Michael Jackson asked you to work on his new album.
Ne-Yo: Yes it’s true; I’m working with him.

Mocha: How involved in the writing process are you, does he tell you what to write about?
Ne-Yo: Well, he didn’t go as far as to tell me what to write about but he told me what kind of music to write, like what genre, but he told me not to talk about it, no song descriptions no titles, just what he wants it to sound like.

Edelle: Well, he’s Michael Jackson.


Swizz Beatz speaks to MTV 17 June 2008
I'm working on this new Michael Jackson sh-t, I'm probably gonna be producing his tour and everything.


Sean Garrett speaks, posted 8 July 2008
I love Michael Jackson... I'm having a blast working with Mike. Mike is one of the greatest entertainers of all time, and it's just a blessing.


Ne-yo talks to New York Mag 23 July 2008
Working with MJ?
Yeah, Michael's putting together a new album, and I'm helping him out with it. He said he had a very high appreciation for my appreciation for melody. His music is all about the melody, and that's the only sort of real direction he gave me: 'Just make sure the song is as melodic as possible. I want to get back to that.'

Ne-yo submits tracks via MP3 on email, then..
He'll call me back and say, 'I really like song No. 3. Song No. 4, the hook could be stronger. Song No. 1, change the first verse. Okay, bye.' Click. And then I redo them and he's like, 'Okay, they're perfect. Send me more.' So I don't know what he's keeping, what he's getting rid of, what he's recording.

Is the King of Pop coming back?
He's definitely trying. He's trying to get back to a place where people remember why they love Michael Jackson in the first place. In the beginning, you didn't care about Michael Jackson's personal life. It was about his dancing and his music. That was why you loved Mike. He's trying to get back there. And I'm trying to help.


Ne-yo talks to Digital Spy 4 August 2008
You know, he's never told me he didn't like something and not given me a reason as to why. I've been working on some songs for his new album and if he doesn't like something he'll explain to me why he doesn't like it. He'll say, 'I just think the melody could be better' or 'I think that a stronger lyric could go here'. We haven't actually gotten the opportunity to work in the studio yet. As of right now it's all phone calls and emails and mp3s and I'm not really allowed to say anything about it.


RedOne in National Ledger 6 August 2008
It's not like it's a secret, it's just that nobody knows (when the album is being released). When it comes to Michael, I'm not allowed to talk about the recording, but I can say he's unbelievable, honestly the best that music has ever known, the ultimate star, artist, musician. Every other star I work with, I tell them I'm working with Michael Jackson, and they're like 'Oh, my God!' And when I tell him, he's so humble and polite, he's like, 'Oh, thank you.'


Neyo speaks about new album 13 August 2008
We talked about music, where he wanted to go direction-wise, how we'd get the records to one another. It was a very calm, regular meeting. We're trying to get people to ignore the rumours about his personal life and get back to the reason why we loved Michael Jackson in the first place, the entertainment value. We want to get the music right. He's still dancing, doing his thing; it should be good.


RedOne talk to Swedish newspaper 19 August 2008
About MJ:
Michael is such a perfectionist in everything he does, every detail is perfect. It's all ear candy. Me and Akon were watching him work in the studio, laughing like little children. He is a super nice and polite guy. I was shocked when I had dinner with him, he is so knowledgable about so many things, a real business man, and very intelligent.

About the new material:
It's very melodic. Very pop. I have no idea when his album will be out. He works with a line of different producers.

[Justice!]

Thanks Damien:-)

[AllTheLovelyFlowers]

Can someone please tell me who RedOne is. I did a google and couldn't find anything about him. Is he some sort of a producer or something? Who is he?

[elusive moonwalker]

morrocan born producer

[michaelsson]

im gettin chills

[Justice!]

Can someone please tell me who RedOne is. I did a google and couldn't find anything about him. Is he some sort of a producer or something? Who is he?

RedOne is a Moroccan and Swedish producer, writer and remix DJ based in Los Angeles.

He has also produced a number of singles for artists signed to Konvict Muzik records, such as Lady Gaga's "Just Dance" (featuring Colby O'Donis) and Tami Chynn's "Frozen" (featuring Akon). Not much personal information is known about him. The only real information about him can be gleaned from his sparse myspace page, his BMI Artist Roster page and his name as a production credit on a record. He owns RedOne Productions and has partnered with Akon on a Company Called RedOneKonvict.


Upcoming Projects

Pop legend Michael Jackson has hired RedOne and Akon to mastermind his new album. The trio began working together at the Palms recording studio in Las Vegas Wednesday, April 23, 2008.He is also a producer, songwriter and back-up vocal singer on NKOTB's summer 2008 album. He also announced that he is working with superstar Toni Braxton on her upcoming album.

[smoothcriminal12]

Thanks Damien!!!

[Mr Paul]

Thanks Damien!

[smooth_criminal05]

Its been quiet the past couple of weeks... I wonder when we are gunna hear the next person talk about the album

[missmoonwalker]

I got really excited when i read (There’s something going on, but I can’t talk about it.) aaahhhhhh!!
all these amazing thoughts run through my head!

[tinker*bell]

Thanks damien! :)


Like, we'll submit songs and then he'll call and say, "Hey i really like number three, and the hook on number two is strong but you could change the verse, okay bye".

:hysterical:



Oh, Mike! :wub:

[KOPV]

why is RedOne so hard to research??? I feel like there is so little about him, I cannot find any recent interview videos of him.. I keep looking and never find it..

[damien shields]

why is RedOne so hard to research??? I feel like there is so little about him, I cannot find any recent interview videos of him.. I keep looking and never find it..

because he is a producer who is NOT an attention whore like TimbaBLAND.

Timba puts his name on everyones work. He produces a song and its released as a freakin' TimbaBland song. I feel so sorry for OneRepublic who in 2006 wrote, sang and released the song Apologize. It was a hit but on a smaller scale. Then in 2007 TimbaBland gets his hands on it, give the song the EXACT same musical base, just creates it in a machine, not with instruments, and ONEREPUBLIC re-record their vocals.. Thats just ONE example.

RedOne obviously doesnt do that, which i like.

[Snow White luvs Peter Pan]

I 'm looking forward dor the new album :clap:

Thanks Damien
BTW: You're handsome :blush:

[BONGANI]

its gonna be one hell of a wait, I dont want to hurt myself and keep hoping

[Topflux]

I'm sure there will be no fillers. Some people might think they are, but they are not.

[andythemisfit]

I'm sure there will be no fillers. Some people might think they are, but they are not.

Do you know something we don't?

[damien shields]

I'm sure there will be no fillers. Some people might think they are, but they are not.

quite a random comment.

[smoothcriminal12]

^ Very random.

[damien shields]

^ Very random.

lol yeah, but he know nothin he just talking smack;)

[smoothcriminal12]

^ Hopefully...or.................................... .......:wink:

[noumene]

Edit: sorry wrong thread!

[pianoman04]

Edit: sorry wrong thread!


Nah, I think you had it in the correct thread, lol...Thanks for posting! It would be interesting to here what she would have Michael singing.

[damien shields]

New quote from Ne-yo a couple of days ago. As below, transcripted by me:

Ne-yo goes "1 on 1" with DJ Ekin 2 June 2008
I'm actually in the process of doing songs for Michael Jackson.. for his new project. Oh yeah, well, I'm trying anyway.. Im submitting songs, and ah, he'll call me and say, 'yeah I really like number 3, number 2 is aight, change the hook on number 1 and send it back to me', and then, you know, that would be it.. So I dunno what's gonna happen.. I dunno what he gonna keep or whatever but, just he fact that he even got a hold of me and was like, 'Yo, I really want you to put some stuff together for my album', thats like.. that was enough for me.. I called my mum and like I wowed out.. it was one of those.
Q: When's the album coming out?
I have no idea! That's why I say im trying.. because this has been going on for like a few months now, you know what I mean like.. He's being real selective, real picky.. because I mean it's gonna be a real important if it comes out you know so, I dunno.


KEY WORD: "IF" it comes out. I don't like the sound of THAT!

[mjdove]

I 'm looking forward dor the new album :clap:

Thanks Damien
BTW: You're handsome :blush: Wow! This is off topic, but you have so very cool video pieces in your siggy!!!! :clapping::wild::punk::dancin:

[Roxanne]

no wonder michael is being picky with neyo's songs. neyo doesnt know much really. hes only submitting songs for michael and he has no clue of whats going on behind the scenes. for all we know michael might turn down all of his stuff.

[jaydom7]

KEY WORD: "IF" it comes out. I don't like the sound of THAT!


well it's probably true. There are a lot of "if's" with Mike:unsure:

[Marni]

I don't believe Ne-yo. He always stumbles on MJ. That last question about the new album, was about "The Year of the Gentleman", not Mj's and here's Ne-yo still crapping on about Mj. :lol: He's rehearsed his responses too much- his quotes are all very similar.




Thanks Damien
BTW: You're handsome :blush:

he's my fiance. :wub:

[J5master]

It makes no sense for MJ to be real picky for an album that won't come out :P

[jaydom7]

It makes no sense for MJ to be real picky for an album that won't come out :P


:D.. that's why he's picky because he knows it ain't coming

[Marni]

It makes no sense for MJ to be real picky for an album that won't come out :P

Very good point! :clapping:

[damien shields]

Michael is a perfectionist. He is picky about most things. Not all his musical projects come out though. I hope this one does.

[Cinnamon234]

It makes no sense for MJ to be real picky for an album that won't come out :P

Lol exactly!

[Megan0788]

Michael is a perfectionist. He is picky about most things. Not all his musical projects come out though. I hope this one does.
Yeah, didn't he almost cancel the production of Thriller? I heard from somewhere that he got really frustrated with it and almost threw in the towel.
But once he cooled down, he decided re-do the whole thing and ended up happy with it. I can't imagine the world today without that album!
So the world "if" scares me too because it reminds me that it has to meet Michael's standards and expectations and that's obviously not easy if an album like Thriller was almost scrapped. :angel:
But I believe that it will come out eventually. It sounds like he's working as hard on it as he did with Thriller, and if that's the case, then I would bet everything I have that it's going to be amazing!

[mjlivesimmortal]

To make this thread a lot more readable, could you edit your first post whenever there's a new quote to post so that they're all in one place. I really like this thread but it's severely mis-managed.

[IMWhizzle]

I don't believe Ne-yo. He always stumbles on MJ. That last question about the new album, was about "The Year of the Gentleman", not Mj's and here's Ne-yo still crapping on about Mj. :lol: He's rehearsed his responses too much- his quotes are all very similar.



he's my fiance. :wub:

Maybe that is his intention. Maybe Michael would like everybody to guess what is going on on this project and he instruct the collaborators to do so too..

That is my point of view though.. :P

[damien shields]

To make this thread a lot more readable, could you edit your first post whenever there's a new quote to post so that they're all in one place. I really like this thread but it's severely mis-managed.

lol i take offense to that haha no joke.
i spend a LOT of time managing this and the other one (there is a part 1 - that one got too full, needed to start a new one)
See it here... http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=43987

Thanks:)

[Chaos]

any news from Teddy Riely?

[damien shields]

only a quote from him saying that IF mike wants to involve him he will be STRAIGHT on board, but he is not sure if MJ is even serious about this album, and he has not heard from him yet... ill get it... not related to the album directly so i have not included it in original postings...

[damien shields]

Riley doesn't exactly sound confident that Michael is taking the project seriously. The interview is only a few months old. Below is the Michael Jackson related exerpt:


BallerStatus.com: As an artist, what has been your greatest career achievement?

Teddy Riley: My biggest achievement was the "Hip-Hop Honors." I mean for me, the latest achievement. But, as far as making records, the Michael Jackson project.

BallerStatus.com: Speaking of Michael, is there any truth to the rumor that you are working on his highly anticipated return to the spotlight?

Teddy Riley: Well, I can only say I'm waiting. If it comes around, definitely. I have much, much, a lot of respect for Michael Jackson, so... and, he's my good friend. If he needs me, I'm there. If he doesn't... because a lot of people, they're with the producers who are now, and sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't. I wish him the best in that area. I know what I can do, and everyone still says that he should do records with me and Quincy [Jones], and the real guys who make records. The thing about it is in this business, you can make records until you're 80. Quincy still has it, and he still has the resources to the best guys. He called me on the scene. So, I know what I can do being with Michael. I am still waiting, you know, to figure out if he's gonna really do this because a lot of people just don't think he's serious.



So, despite claims that he IS already working on or has already worked on the project, it doesn't seem as though he has.

Source: http://www.ballerstatus.com/article/features/2008/03/4274/ / Damien @ Maximum Jackson (http://www.maximum-jackson.com/discussion/showthread.php?p=28910#post28910)

[Chaos]

thanks for the info!

[damien shields]

thanks for the info!

you're welcome.

[Big Apple2]

only a quote from him saying that IF mike wants to involve him he will be STRAIGHT on board, but he is not sure if MJ is even serious about this album, and he has not heard from him yet... ill get it... not related to the album directly so i have not included it in original postings...

Teddy has been saying that since MJ was in Bahrain. I guess MJ never called him, so he thinks MJ is not serious, since he (Teddy) is not involved with the MJ's new project.

Sounds a little like "sour grapes" to me. I mean, if MJ didn't call him, how does that equate to MJ not being serious. LOL!

[damien shields]

Ne-Yo speaks on 91.5

Mocha: So, speaking of writing songs for a lot of people, I heard, and this might just be a rumour, but the one and only Michael Jackson asked you to work on his new album.

Ne-Yo: Yes it’s true; I’m working with him.

Mocha: How involved in the writing process are you, does he tell you what to write about?

Ne-Yo: Well, he didn’t go as far as to tell me what to write about but he told me what kind of music to write, like what genre, but he told me not to talk about it, no song descriptions no titles, just what he wants it to sound like.

Edelle: Well, he’s Michael Jackson.


Thanks to: Smoothcriminal12 for transcripting:)

[MooNW@lkeR]

when is his album released? i´m tired of waiting :(

[mistermaxxx]

thanks for the info and i don't expect him to be working with teddy riley anytime soon. teddy been done for years.

[Ape]

Damien, are you going to include what he said in the phone call about going to the studio or is that not clear enough to be included here?

[svetty]

Hi Damien,

This is my second post actually. I guess you're an authority regarding the new album Collabos and stuff. Could you please enlighten me regarding what Ne-Yo stated in Le Journal De Montreal that he met MJ a few months ago in New York. It seems a little weird since he had numerously stated that he's been submitting songs for the past two years.

[pavlos25]

judging from the new version of "the girl is mine" i believe michael has done some amazing wokr for the long waited new album!!!!!mike we cant wait for your new work!

[smiles_au]

The fact that Ne Yo mentioned a specific genre means that it isn't likely to be the standard R&B/pop we expect. Anyone want to take a guess? I'm betting the new album will be a modern take on disco. Will.i.am said that the album will be like off the wall for todays generation, so that idea seems to fit.

[KOPV]

^ well did Ne-yo say a GANRE or 'type of song'... cuz that can mean many different things..

Type of song as far as???

lyrics??
rhythem??
Instramentals??
overall feel??
tempo??


What I picture Michael telling Ne-yo.. (considering what we have heard from will.i.am and what we know OF Michael is..

"send me some songs that have great rhythem, just great feel songs with strong melodies. The type of songs everyone around the world can hum along to.."


I just see Michael askig them to create songs instramentally strong for todays standards, yet mantaining the melodies that will stay strong forever..

I think he's going for 'club bangers'.. When I say club bangers, I don't mean it in the same sence will.i.am talked about.. I mean, songs that make people want to dance because the music drives them to it.. Not just 'hott' tracks..

[AllTheLovelyFlowers]

I agree with you, KOPV. I think Michael is looking for great melodies. And that is exactly what Off The Wall had. That is why that album was so good. I would love to see Michael release an updated OTW. I truly believe that Michael is going big with this album. He wants this album to be filled with number one hits. I can really see at least 3 number ones coming out of it. I can also see a handful of Grammies too.

[pianoman04]

^ well did Ne-yo say a GANRE or 'type of song'... cuz that can mean many different things..



He said genre.

[Victory2004]

Ne-yo was on TRL and spoke about michael but unfortunately I forgot what he said. Luckily TRL will rerun the episode tomorrow on MTV Hits so I can tape it.

[serendipity]

^If you forgot it, he probably didn't say anything interesting :lol:

[Victory2004]

Well you won't know that until you actually listen to decide that. I found the interview online scroll to 3:14 where he gets asked about MJ. http://yardie4life.blogspot.com/2008/06/ne-yo-trl-interview-06-11-08.html

[Roger Spy]

Michael has got a big opportunity in his hands which, as it shows, he is not going to waste and he's taking his time (BASTARD) to work on. I believe the album will be musically groundbreaking and it'll sound nothing like anything that has been done before. That's what he has always done and I'm sure he's gonna do it even better this time around. HE HAS TO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!*

RS

[mickyj007]

Tell ya what, he's got a great voice.

[Mijack]

As far as i'm concern, I'm here waiting, and i'm sure not to miss it.
Michael take your time. I can wait.

[Victory2004]

Bumping this.

[KOPV]

U know I feel bad for Neyo cuz he really wants to take part and he does not know what's going on.. lol!


But that's the same as many..

[AllTheLovelyFlowers]

Some people don't believe that Michael can release a relevant album. But I think they are wrong. Michael has kept up with the times ever since he was a kid. He has always been able to pick up on the current trends and make them his own. He has always been able to keep his finger on the pulse of the music scene. I really believe that this is why he is taking his time and being so picky....because he knows that this album will either make or break him. He knows that. And he is gonna make sure it makes him!

[Dark Artist]

I really have a good feeling about this album, I seriously just can't wait for it. If Mike is as behind it as I think he is, it's gonna blow our minds!

[mysterygirl7]

I really have a good feeling about this album, I seriously just can't wait for it. If Mike is as behind it as I think he is, it's gonna blow our minds!

Pls stop calling him Mike!:cheeky: Michael is much better! :better: (You can call him whatever you want!)

I think the album is going to be the best so far... we ain't seen nothin yet!

[yes]

U know I feel bad for Neyo cuz he really wants to take part and he does not know what's going on.. lol!


But that's the same as many..


you bet!!!!

[pianoman04]

Swizz Beatz Addresses Alicia Keys Rumors, Reveals Michael Jackson Tour Deal

So cool, so nonchalant — even his most extravagant endeavors seem like just regular work to Swizz Beatz.
"I'm working on this new Michael Jackson sh--," Swizz said in as calm a manner as he did when speaking to his new manager, Chaka Zulu, about which Los Angeles restaurant they should dine at. "I'm probably gonna be producing his tour and everything. I'm designing planes for Gulf Stream and everything. They called me. I'm around different people. I'm around billionaires. I'm around people like that."

-http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1589419/20080616/id_0.jhtml

[bobmoo79]

I had no idea who Swizz Beatz is so I read the article and have come to the conclusion that he's an idiot. You can tell from what he says and the way he talks that he's stupid.
I think he's just using the MJ name to get some more attention than he deserves...

[mickyj007]

Wholy crap!

[pianoman04]

I had no idea who Swizz Beatz is so I read the article and have come to the conclusion that he's an idiot. You can tell from what he says and the way he talks that he's stupid.
I think he's just using the MJ name to get some more attention than he deserves...


I take it you've never heard his music? Some of it is actually pretty catchy...

[BONGANI]

bullsh Swizzy you're lying..

[damien shields]

original post updated with this:

Swizz Beatz speaks to MTV 17 June 2008
I'm working on this new Michael Jackson sh-t, I'm probably gonna be producing his tour and everything.


:)

[Roxanne]

bullsh Swizzy you're lying..

why are u saying that ? :blink:

[mickyj007]

never know.. he might be just talking himself up

[damien shields]

wonder how long til we start hearing reports that the album is finished. that will be an exciting time.

[BONGANI]

why are u saying that ? :blink:
How would he produce Michael's tour? These clowns get one call and they think they are bloody well managing Michael's whole life.
I'm telling you, we aint gon see half the people that claim to be working with MJ.
Even Will.i.am realised he is not playing a part as big as he thought he was playing.Its clear on Acces Hollywood homeboy thought he'd follow Teddy Riley's shoes and all but if you listen to his recent interviews he sounds like he is in the dark.

I like some of the stuff that Swizzy puts out, especialy his work on Jay Z but he produces music not tours, so I dont know what he's on about.

[mickyj007]

wonder how long til we start hearing reports that the album is finished. that will be an exciting time.

Can't wait hey man.

What date was that 'proposed August release date' we read months and months ago? Pretty sure it was late August.

Anyone remember? Who was it from again, I can't remember..

[smooth_criminal05]

How would he produce Michael's tour? These clowns get one call and they think they are bloody well managing Michael's whole life.
I'm telling you, we aint gon see half the people that claim to be working with MJ.
Even Will.i.am realised he is not playing a part as big as he thought he was playing.Its clear on Acces Hollywood homeboy thought he'd follow Teddy Riley's shoes and all but if you listen to his recent interviews he sounds like he is in the dark.

I like some of the stuff that Swizzy puts out, especialy his work on Jay Z but he produces music not tours, so I dont know what he's on about.

Haha that was funny... especially when you said "these clowns get one call and they think they are bloody well managing Michael's entire life".... made me laugh, just the way you phrased it. Its true though! They get sooo ahead of themselves, they dont realize Mike is tellin everybody to work on sh*t for him and then he decides what is the best.

[mickyj007]

Oh wait.. was it from Promusicae?

[BONGANI]

Haha that was funny... especially when you said "these clowns get one call and they think they are bloody well managing Michael's entire life".... made me laugh, just the way you phrased it. Its true though! They get sooo ahead of themselves, they dont realize Mike is tellin everybody to work on sh*t for him and then he decides what is the best.

COULDN'T HAVE SAID IT BETTER, MY FRIEND..:yes:

[Roxanne]

How would he produce Michael's tour? These clowns get one call and they think they are bloody well managing Michael's whole life.
I'm telling you, we aint gon see half the people that claim to be working with MJ.
Even Will.i.am realised he is not playing a part as big as he thought he was playing.Its clear on Acces Hollywood homeboy thought he'd follow Teddy Riley's shoes and all but if you listen to his recent interviews he sounds like he is in the dark.

I like some of the stuff that Swizzy puts out, especialy his work on Jay Z but he produces music not tours, so I dont know what he's on about.

he said "probably" meaning that him producing michels tour is not a sure thing. i agree though that many artists can get one call from michael and think they're already working with/for him when thats obviously not the case. but to blatantly say that the guy is lying without having any proof whatsoever to support ur statement is wrong. the guy knows more than any of us do cuz hes already working on sth with michael. he also said that he might be producing his tour which could be a rush statement but it could as well be not. lets just sit tight and see what happens :)

[BONGANI]

he Said "probably" Meaning That Him Producing Michels Tour Is Not A Sure Thing. I Agree Though That Many Artists Can Get One Call From Michael And Think They're Already Working With/for Him When Thats Obviously Not The Case. But To Blatantly Say That The Guy Is Lying Without Having Any Proof Whatsoever To Support Ur Statement Is Wrong. The Guy Knows More Than Any Of Us Do Cuz Hes Already Working On Sth With Michael. He Also Said That He Might Be Producing His Tour Which Could Be A Rush Statement But It Could As Well Be Not. Lets Just Sit Tight And See What Happens :)
Am I Missing Something Here? How Is A Music Producer Going To Produce A Tour?
Doesn't Producing A Tour Entail Chosing The Setlist Among Other Things Related To THE Live Performance Itself?
How Would A Predominanlty Hip Hop Producer Do That Job For Michael Jackson?

[BONGANI]

Hey people, I dont know if this has been mentioned here but remember a while back there was some guy called NEFF U claiming to be working on Michael's forthcoming project? Well I was just looking through my NUMBER ONES booklet and I saw Michael thanks him. So they'v they knew each other from back then it seems, and him being special enough to get a shout out is something to consider.. I dont know..:unsure:

[mickyj007]

Hey people, I dont know if this has been mentioned here but remember a while back there was some guy called NEFF U claiming to be working on Michael's forthcoming project? Well I was just looking through my NUMBER ONES booklet and I saw Michael thanks him. So they'v they knew each other from back then it seems, and him being special enough to get a shout out is something to consider.. I dont know..:unsure:

Thanks for the info :)

[BONGANI]

Thanks for the info :)
Sure thang buddy:D

[andythemisfit]

bump.......:innocent:

[damien shields]

Back in October of 2006, Michael Jackson's spokesperson announced that Sean Garrett was one of the numerous high profile producers working on Michael Jackson's forthcoming studio album. However, little to nothing was known about this alleged collaboration and it was only briefly mentioned in print by third parties a few times throughout the past couple of years. However, at the BMI Pop Awards in May of 2008, Sean Garrett himself quietly confirmed to a lone reporter that he was indeed working with Michael Jackson.

In fact, the two have just recently met up with each other at an undisclosed recording studio; one such confirmed meeting between the two occurred approximately one month ago. Of the collaboration, Garrett proclaimed: "I love Michael Jackson... I'm having a blast working with Mike. Mike is one of the greatest entertainers of all time, and it's just a blessing."

Source: MJJR.net / Maximum Jackson (smooth-c)

[Big Apple2]

In fact, the two have just recently met up with each other at an undisclosed recording studio; one such confirmed meeting between the two occurred approximately one month ago. Of the collaboration, Garrett proclaimed: "I love Michael Jackson... I'm having a blast working with Mike. Mike is one of the greatest entertainers of all time, and it's just a blessing."

Thanks for the update damien. It's always fun to come in here and see if there are any new developments.

I must admit, I have never heard of this guy before. Do you know anything about him? Has he worked with Mike before? Thanks!

[InvincibleTal]

he produced "Yeah"\usher and "Run it" of Chris Brown..

[KOPV]

man! IDK damien why people just ignore the info in this thread, my thread, and others like it and still talk about IF MJ will have an album or not.. lol! it's like..

HELLO??? read the facts

[damien shields]

man! IDK damien why people just ignore the info in this thread, my thread, and others like it and still talk about IF MJ will have an album or not.. lol! it's like..

HELLO??? read the facts

lol exactly.
reason being, they are impatient. if they cant have it now, it mustnt be coming at all, ever.
i just laugh:)

[AllTheLovelyFlowers]

Damien and KOPV, I believe that there will be a NEW album and I think we are gonna see it coming out this year.

I just think that Michael is gangstah and has everybody on lock down mode. He done shut everybody up. And I believe that these people are working like crazy behind the scenes.

[AllTheLovelyFlowers]

Dang, I just did a little research on this Sean Garrett and he makes some crazy beats and stuff! He produced the following for Beyonce...

Get Me Bodied
Ring the Alarm
Upgrade Ya
Check On It

These song have some really good beats. I can see Michael dancing on some of this stuff.

[Sasha01]

Dang, I just did a little research on this Sean Garrett and he makes some crazy beats and stuff! He produced the following for Beyonce...

Get Me Bodied
Ring the Alarm
Upgrade Ya
Check On It

These song have some really good beats. I can see Michael dancing on some of this stuff.
Wow, I love those songs. :o lol Do you research on peeps MJ works with too ??(not to sound stalkerish or anything) lol :hysterical: Like.. the producers.. I listen to what songs they produced/worked on and stuff and how it sounds, lol I do that. :)

[damien shields]

Damien and KOPV, I believe that there will be a NEW album and I think we are gonna see it coming out this year.

I just think that Michael is gangstah and has everybody on lock down mode. He done shut everybody up. And I believe that these people are working like crazy behind the scenes.

I agree

I think we will have his album before the year is over.

[J5master]

ooooboy u lookin like u like what ya see y don't u come over and check up on it i'mmaletuworkuponitladieslethimcheckuponit
watchitwhilehecheckuponitdipitpopittwirkitstopit

CHECK ON ME toniGHt! :lol:

[Sasha01]

^^ LOL :hysterical: I lovee that song. :wub:

[daphnieas]

^^^ Ditto! Love that song!

[19SunsetDriver74]

Yes the Song is great :punk: I hope so that Mikes Album will be released this year:scratch:

[Hess]

I think we will have his album before the year is over.



Yeah me too.

2 or 3 singles, 1 or 2 videos and then before the Christmas sale BANG !!!! MICHAELMANIA all over the world. The albums there!!

[Dangerous1991]

Dang, I just did a little research on this Sean Garrett and he makes some crazy beats and stuff! He produced the following for Beyonce...

Get Me Bodied
Ring the Alarm
Upgrade Ya
Check On It

These song have some really good beats. I can see Michael dancing on some of this stuff.

Ring The Alarm, Upgrade U and Check On It are probably the best three tracks on that album, seems like a decent producer.

[pianoman04]

Sean Garrett is a songwriter. He doesn't produce. The majority of the songs he's written, including all of the Beyonce' tracks that were named, were produced by Swizz Beats. Swizz said that he's working on Michael's record, so maybe that's what he's referring to.

[Big Apple2]

Sean Garrett is a songwriter. He doesn't produce. The majority of the songs he's written, including all of the Beyonce' tracks that were named, were produced by Swizz Beats. Swizz said that he's working on Michael's record, so maybe that's what he's referring to.

Good work pianoman! I was wondering how "Swizz Beats" fit in the picture, when he made those comments recently. Now the whole thing makes sense and it's very interesting!

[Bee]

Sean Garrett is a songwriter. He doesn't produce. The majority of the songs he's written, including all of the Beyonce' tracks that were named, were produced by Swizz Beats. Swizz said that he's working on Michael's record, so maybe that's what he's referring to

That's right. That is what I thought Sean was. He must have written the songs, but Swiss Beatz produced them.

Swiss Beatz is a very talented producer. He produced some CLUB BANGERS!! I love his work, I really do. I can't really think of a Swiss Beatz produced song that I disliked. However, I am excited about what he has in store for MICHAEL! However, as far as producing a tour for MJ - yeah right. I think he got a bit too excited.

[Sasha01]

Wow yeah, some of the songs I am seeing Sean Garret and Swizz Beats worked together on are kinna Club Bangers, like Bee said. You know.. the sort of songs that you would dance to (duh). List some of them like Run It, Yeah!, Goodies (I LOVE THIS SONG LMFAOO), Get Me Bodied. I can't wait to see what they come up for Michael also!:D

And Neff-U.. he worked on the Step Up Movie soundtrack.. and I heard it lots of times and I love the instruments and how powerful feeling it is. :D:punk:

[daphnieas]

Don't know if this is already here, seems to be new...

From NY Magazine

Failed Guitarist Ne-Yo on Writing Songs With Michael Jackson
(Yes, that's the title)

Ne-Yo may have won a Grammy for his last album, Because of You, and penned Beyoncé's massive "Irreplaceable," but that doesn't mean he's sticking with the formula. When we ran into the singer at a Tanqueray No. Ten–sponsored party for VH1's Save the Music in East Hampton this weekend, he told us he's trying to change things up for his upcoming album, Year of the Gentleman. "For inspiration I started listening to stuff like Coldplay, Radiohead, some of the Beatles' old stuff." He even tried to learn how to play guitar, but it didn't take. "They didn't tell me that learning to pay the guitar hurts. Your fingers bleed and they cramp. I was like, 'This is not sexy. I do not like this.'" He gave it the old college try for two weeks before calluses started to show, "and that's when I gave up. I was like, 'Nah. I'm okay.' Playing guitar is not the hottest thing. And then when you shake a person's hand, you've got sandpaper hands. No, thank you."

Also trying to change it up? Michael Jackson, who asked Ne-Yo to write songs for his comeback album. "Yeah, Michael's putting together a new album, and I'm helping him out with it," he confirmed. According to Ne-Yo, Jackson himself called to get him onboard. "I actually hung up on him because I thought someone was playin'," he said. "'Who's this?' [high voice] 'This is Michael Jackson.' Click. Then his representative called back. 'This is Peter Lopez. I have Michael Jackson on the phone.' And I was like, 'Oh my God. Are you serious?' And then I apologized for the next ten minutes. Any comedian who has ever made fun of Michael Jackson was right on. Sad but true. He does have a very high, not very manly voice."

But in the end, Jackson managed to talk Ne-Yo into the project. "He said he had a very high appreciation for my appreciation for melody. His music is all about the melody, and that's the only sort of real direction he gave me: 'Just make sure the song is as melodic as possible. I want to get back to that.'" Jackson apparently also gave some instructions on subject matter for lyrics, but, Ne-Yo said, "it was very much keep it to yourself." At this point, Ne-Yo has written a number of tracks, which he submits to Jackson as MP3s via e-mail; then, Ne-Yo said, "he'll call me back and say, 'I really like song No. 3. Song No. 4, the hook could be stronger. Song No. 1, change the first verse. Okay, bye.' Click. And then I redo them and he's like, 'Okay, they're perfect. Send me more.' So I don't know what he's keeping, what he's getting rid of, what he's recording."

Will this be Michael Jackson's comeback album? Ne-Yo hopes so. "He's definitely trying," he said. "He's trying to get back to a place where people remember why they love Michael Jackson in the first place. In the beginning, you didn't care about Michael Jackson's personal life. It was about his dancing and his music. That was why you loved Mike. He's trying to get back there. And I'm trying to help." —Jada Yuan


http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2008/07/neyo_on_working_with_michael_jackson.html

[MJsPYT1]

Yeah me too.

2 or 3 singles, 1 or 2 videos and then before the Christmas sale BANG !!!! MICHAELMANIA all over the world. The albums there!!


ooohhhh! Christmas time would be the best!!!!! TONS of sales, aaand I can get my parents to buy it for me :yes:

[J5master]

he said. "'Who's this?' [high voice] 'This is Michael Jackson.' Click.

Classic!!! :lol:

[TillitsGone]

"... apoligized for the next ten minutes" :crackingup:

Neyo: Michael my bad man, I ain't know I juss... I juss, see, wha- see

[KOPV]

I wonder wut I would do if I hung up on Mike by mistake.. lol!

[troubleman84]

Well wouldn't you do the same if someone said they were MJ? :lol:

Can't blame him. ;)

:lol: Of course if he called back, then I'll be like "yo, you got too many impersonators, dude, I seriously thought you were Jason Malachi, I was gonna f**k yo a$$ up!" :lol:

[virginia_woolf]

Any comedian who has ever made fun of Michael Jackson was right on. Sad but true. He does have a very high, not very manly voice
Well, every person who knows Michael in private says that he has pretty deep voice.
And even if he has a high voice why it's "sad but true"?



he said. "'Who's this?' [high voice] 'This is Michael Jackson.' Click.

:rofl:

[KOPV]

I think I would recognize his voice.. unless he purposly changes it..

[damien shields]

fantastic to hear this.. ill update the thread soon!:)

[damien shields]

first post updated.:)

[Cheater_07]

Ne-yo talks to New York Mag 23 July 2008
Working with MJ?
Yeah, Michael's putting together a new album, and I'm helping him out with it. He said he had a very high appreciation for my appreciation for melody. His music is all about the melody, and that's the only sort of real direction he gave me: 'Just make sure the song is as melodic as possible. I want to get back to that.'

Ne-yo submits tracks via MP3 on email, then..
He'll call me back and say, 'I really like song No. 3. Song No. 4, the hook could be stronger. Song No. 1, change the first verse. Okay, bye.' Click. And then I redo them and he's like, 'Okay, they're perfect. Send me more.' So I don't know what he's keeping, what he's getting rid of, what he's recording.

Is the King of Pop coming back?
He's definitely trying. He's trying to get back to a place where people remember why they love Michael Jackson in the first place. In the beginning, you didn't care about Michael Jackson's personal life. It was about his dancing and his music. That was why you loved Mike. He's trying to get back there. And I'm trying to help.

I always said the same thing! The thing with Michael's songs that really gets me are the great melodies!:) I'm very curious!!

[Justice!]

Funny to read: ""....I actually hung up on him because I thought someone was playin'," he said. "'Who's this?' [high voice] 'This is Michael Jackson.' Click."

The same situation with Will.I.Am. He has also made this -"CLICK" when he had Mike on the phone. Poor Michael. :D

Anyway - the mentioned "representative" is Jackson’s new music attorney, Peter Lopez.:yes:

[KOPV]

this always happens to MJ related stuff.. NO1 seems to want to believe MICHAEL wants to work with them.. lol!


Even back in the day when Q contacted Van hallen.. 'click'

[TillitsGone]

What I don't get is the whole apologizing for ten minutes... it's okay, u were juss in shock :giggle:

[KOPV]

^ when ur that sorry.. probably time stode still.. It was probably 30 seconds, but felt like forever.. ha ha!!

[BPYTD]

Its better than what I would have done lol. If ever I would have laughed probably thought it was a prank played along for about 40secs b4 hanging up lol

[BPYTD]

^ when ur that sorry.. probably time stode still.. It was probably 30 seconds, but felt like forever.. ha ha!!
Yeah he must have been exxagerating but If I hung up on Mike I definately would be apologising for most of the convo lol. Just to make sure he KNEW for sure I werent taking the P out of him lol. Its Michael
(obv I'm exxagerating but you get it)
This guys phones him obv out of the blue personally youre gonna be apologising you dont want to offend someone who you admire that took the time to call you up lol

[analogue]

When MJ phoned up Will i am and Will didn't believe it was MJ, MJ said ''Awww noone ever belives that it's really me'' lol

[damien shields]

updated with these...

Ne-yo talks to Digital Spy 4 August 2008
You know, he's never told me he didn't like something and not given me a reason as to why. I've been working on some songs for his new album and if he doesn't like something he'll explain to me why he doesn't like it. He'll say, 'I just think the melody could be better' or 'I think that a stronger lyric could go here'. We haven't actually gotten the opportunity to work in the studio yet. As of right now it's all phone calls and emails and mp3s and I'm not really allowed to say anything about it.


RedOne in National Ledger 6 August 2008
It's not like it's a secret, it's just that nobody knows (when the album is being released). When it comes to Michael, I'm not allowed to talk about the recording, but I can say he's unbelievable, honestly the best that music has ever known, the ultimate star, artist, musician. Every other star I work with, I tell them I'm working with Michael Jackson, and they're like 'Oh, my God!' And when I tell him, he's so humble and polite, he's like, 'Oh, thank you.'

:)

[damien shields]

Neyo speaks about new album 13 August 2008
We talked about music, where he wanted to go direction-wise, how we'd get the records to one another. It was a very calm, regular meeting. We're trying to get people to ignore the rumours about his personal life and get back to the reason why we loved Michael Jackson in the first place, the entertainment value. We want to get the music right. He's still dancing, doing his thing; it should be good.


original updated:)

[Ape]

I can't wait for the day I come online in here and see "NEW Michael Jackson Album Release!!" CANNOT WAIT!!! Till then... I have lots to keep me busy and I wish him the most wonderful happy birthday. I hope it's his best year yet and I hope they just keep getting better and better.

[dangerous_88]

wish we at least knew the title.

[damien shields]

knowing the title technically would mean knowing one of the song titles if past is anything to go by...

[xxxxxx24]

So this album is going ahead I take it?

I really hope so. I also hope Michael writes like he used to; it will make people take notice.

[Sasha01]

I can't wait for the day I come online in here and see "NEW Michael Jackson Album Release!!" CANNOT WAIT!!! Till then... I have lots to keep me busy and I wish him the most wonderful happy birthday. I hope it's his best year yet and I hope they just keep getting better and better.
LOL! Me too! Just the thought of it makes me all excited. :lol::D

[mickyj007]

NEW QUOTES:

Producer RedOne talks to a Swedish newspaper about recording with Michael Jackson. Kindly translated by kenjansson from another MJ forum:


"Michael is such a perfectionist in everything he does, every detail is perfect. It's all ear candy. Me and Akon were watching him work in the studio, laughing like little children."

(...)

"He is a super nice and polite guy. I was shocked when I had dinner with him, he is so knowledgable about so many things, a real business man, and very intelligent."

(...)


About the new material:

"It's very melodic. Very pop. I have no idea when his album will be out. He works with a line of different producers."


Source:
http://www.aftonbladet.se/nojesliv/article3117448.ab

[AllTheLovelyFlowers]

Michael's releasing a pop album......yeah!

[Sasha01]

NEW QUOTES:

Producer RedOne talks to a Swedish newspaper about recording with Michael Jackson. Kindly translated by kenjansson from another MJ forum:


"Michael is such a perfectionist in everything he does, every detail is perfect. It's all ear candy. Me and Akon were watching him work in the studio, laughing like little children."

(...)

"He is a super nice and polite guy. I was shocked when I had dinner with him, he is so knowledgable about so many things, a real business man, and very intelligent."

(...)


About the new material:

"It's very melodic. Very pop. I have no idea when his album will be out. He works with a line of different producers."


Source:
http://www.aftonbladet.se/nojesliv/article3117448.ab
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK. :wild: MELODIIIES. <3 AND POP. :o

Thanks for posting! :D
& of course, Michael is very intelligent. :yes: He said himself, he's always learning. Very cool, loovingg the quotes!

[TialovesMJ]

:wild: wooo nice quotes. Thanks for posting. :clap: yay a pop album!:D

[TillitsGone]

We are getting stuff pinch by pinch... and in the end its gonna be a MOSAIC! I spell dat right... . Thanks micky :happy:

[Eterna.]

This is probably the best thread on this entire forum! :D
Very cool and hot news around here!
A new pop album! that makes me smile! :D

[pianoman04]

Michael's releasing a pop album......yeah!

All of his albums are considered pop/r&b, lol...That doesn't mean it's going to sound like Britney Spears or N'Sync.

[Agent Black]

Nice ... thank you for the quotes !

[damien shields]

post updated. Thanks micky

[Mystic]

Wait, you guys are surprised MJ is releasing a pop album? Uh...?

[Roxanne]

Wait, you guys are surprised MJ is releasing a pop album? Uh...?

i think ppl are just happy to know that michaels sticking to pop and not taking an r&b turn like many artists nowadays (given the fact that hes collaborating with r&b/hip hop artists and producers)

[wendy2004]

All of his albums are considered pop/r&b, lol...That doesn't mean it's going to sound like Britney Spears or N'Sync.

Exactly. :flowers: Not to say there was anything wrong with N'Sync. I own some of their material. They weren't too shabby for that time period, imo. :fear:

[pianoman04]

i think ppl are just happy to know that michaels sticking to pop and not taking an r&b turn like many artists nowadays (given the fact that hes collaborating with r&b/hip hop artists and producers)

The term "pop" can be used loosely. Considering the producers he's working with, I'm expecting the most "urban" album he's ever done.

[J5master]

i think ppl are just happy to know that michaels sticking to pop and not taking an r&b turn like many artists nowadays (given the fact that hes collaborating with r&b/hip hop artists and producers)

MJ has been and always will be R&B...where have you been? lol

[Kingofpop2424]

MJ has been and always will be R&B...where have you been? lol

Apparently J5, Roxanne and a few others here don't know that.
After all, Michael is the King of "POP", right?
Sorry for the sarcasm, LOL!


Hollaback.

[AllTheLovelyFlowers]

His music has always been POPular. But he is R and B from his soul. And he has a very smart way of making whatever he sings....POPular. I guess that is why he is the......

KING OF POP!

[mjscarousal]

His music has always been POPular. But he is R and B from his soul. And he has a very smart way of making whatever he sings....POPular. I guess that is why he is the......

KING OF POP!

Right...
Michael has always sung "popular" music no matter what kind of genre he was trying to experiment with in his music. "Popular" simply means: music for mass appeal, its not necessarily a "genre". Typical mainstream period BUT unlike the mainstream of today, Michael was innovative and original despite his popularity. He stayed true to his art, hopefully his next album will be the same as well. Most artists who are popular are no where near the hype the media gives them or the achievements they win, simply because their just making music to be "popular". Michael was the most successful artist in mainstream that was original and innovative. He stayed true to his art and earned all his successes with that came a price. His one of a kind. Innovation and originality are the main things that lack in todays mainstream music.

[Roxanne]

MJ has been and always will be R&B...where have you been? lol

michaels music is POP and has always been POP meaning that it appeals to everyone.
hes done rock, soul, r&b songs and they're all considered to be POP cuz they are POPular.
they have mass appeal. if u say that michaels always been r&b is no different than saying his music has the same sound as chris browns, ushers etc sounds which it doesnt.
michaels music has always had popular sound no matter if it was r&b, rock, soul, pop or whatever. michael can transform every genre into a popular one. michael can release a gospel or a country or even an opera (figure of speech lol) album and he will be able to make it popular meaning that everyone no matter what taste they have in music will be able to enjoy listening to it.
for instance "u rock my world" which is considered to be an r&b song has a very pop sound and even ppl who are not into r&b can love that song.

[J5master]

K well MJ's R&B sound has been appealing to POP culture which makes him popular. Not all R&B sounds like Usher LOLOLOLOL. Rhythm and Blues...thats what it is. Not all R&B sounds the same and not all Pop sounds the same. I mean if u wanna put MJ in a box, u can say all his stuff sounds like N'sync if u wanna categorize him in "generic" pop...just like R&B sounds like "usher" lol. MJ has been in R&B for a loooooooooooooooooong time. What is most of the Thriller album? R&B : Billie Jean...Thriller...Lady In My life...WBss..baby be mine.......all R&B that became popular...which made it pop too. MJ's always have been rooted in R&B, and he hasn't steered away from it. Even his more rockish songs have some R&B center in it. Give Into Me, Beat It, and Dirty Diana...prime examples. Yes he's made it more appealing to many...like Hip Hop has become....there are hip hop songs that are pop, but that doesn't mean they aren't hip hop lol

[The Dancin Machine]

K well MJ's R&B sound has been appealing to POP culture which makes him popular. Not all R&B sounds like Usher LOLOLOLOL. Rhythm and Blues...thats what it is. Not all R&B sounds the same and not all Pop sounds the same. I mean if u wanna put MJ in a box, u can say all his stuff sounds like N'sync if u wanna categorize him in "generic" pop...just like R&B sounds like "usher" lol. MJ has been in R&B for a loooooooooooooooooong time. What is most of the Thriller album? R&B : Billie Jean...Thriller...Lady In My life...WBss..baby be mine.......all R&B that became popular...which made it pop too. MJ's always have been rooted in R&B, and he hasn't steered away from it. Even his more rockish songs have some R&B center in it. Give Into Me, Beat It, and Dirty Diana...prime examples. Yes he's made it more appealing to many...like Hip Hop has become....there are hip hop songs that are pop, but that doesn't mean they aren't hip hop lol

lulz. The truth many people fail to understand. Prolly the best post in this topic.

[Kingofpop2424]

K well MJ's R&B sound has been appealing to POP culture which makes him popular. Not all R&B sounds like Usher LOLOLOLOL. Rhythm and Blues...thats what it is. Not all R&B sounds the same and not all Pop sounds the same. I mean if u wanna put MJ in a box, u can say all his stuff sounds like N'sync if u wanna categorize him in "generic" pop...just like R&B sounds like "usher" lol. MJ has been in R&B for a loooooooooooooooooong time. What is most of the Thriller album? R&B : Billie Jean...Thriller...Lady In My life...WBss..baby be mine.......all R&B that became popular...which made it pop too. MJ's always have been rooted in R&B, and he hasn't steered away from it. Even his more rockish songs have some R&B center in it. Give Into Me, Beat It, and Dirty Diana...prime examples. Yes he's made it more appealing to many...like Hip Hop has become....there are hip hop songs that are pop, but that doesn't mean they aren't hip hop lol

J5, you're making way too much sense, lol.
I think some fans just feel like they can sleep better at night if they know Michael is singing "pop" music. When you, me, and anybody who's been a Michael Jackson fan for more than 5 years can tell you unequivocately that dude's been rooted in R&B his whole life. Apparently, some fans think you have to look like Usher to sing R&B music. Why Michael looks like music royalty. He's too good to be fitted in the same category as a bunch of young black guys who have baggy jeans, tatoos, pierced ears, and bad attitudes. Right?
Pardon my sarcasm.


Hollaback.

[damien shields]

J5, you're making way too much sense, lol.
I think some fans just feel like they can sleep better at night if they know Michael is singing "pop" music. When you, me, and anybody who's been a Michael Jackson fan for more than 5 years can tell you unequivocately that dude's been rooted in R&B his whole life. Apparently, some fans think you have to look like Usher to sing R&B music. Why Michael looks like music royalty. He's too good to be fitted in the same category as a bunch of young black guys who have baggy jeans, tatoos, pierced ears, and bad attitudes. Right?
Pardon my sarcasm.


Hollaback.

LOVE this post.

[J5master]

I think ur right KOP2424

[sundayroberts1]

I hope its true . I,m getting real excited , come on michael we are waiting for the king.:clapping:

[Roxanne]

wow some ppl sure know how to be mean :unsure:

all i said and plz forgive me for annoying y'all so much is that michael's music doesnt have the same sound as the music of usher, destinys child, chris brown etc etc
thats what i meant when i said that im happy to know that michaels not taking the r&b turn (meaning the r&b of todays music industry) given the fact that hes collaborating with artists whose sound is todays r&b. anyway i think that some ppl like to argue just for the sake of it....
i never denied the points u guys made. we're all pretty much saying the same thing. but ur all too quick to start an argument when theres none really

[raingirl]

Michael's music should not be put in any genre. Yes, his music is basically pop music, as pop=popular but not pop="britney spears", "bublegum" pop music.
Michael's roots may be in R'n'B but he is not tied to his roots and that's what I like about him. He is an artists who doesn't let anything limit him. And most todays so called R'n'B songs are far from the 'good old' old school R'n'B.
A song like Give in to me, DS, Beat it could be considered as a rock song.
I often find Michael's albums in music store in "dance" category, which I don't like at all. How could you say that Will You be there or Childhood are dance songs?
People, let music be music don't chain it into a small box.

[J5master]

No it's just the fact you grouped R&B into a box...even today's R&B...when it isn't that way, is all. Then arguing against the fact that MJ always has been an R&B artist lol...so i'm not being arguable here. I'm just sayin my piece.

[Roxanne]

if u and some others here read my posts more carefully u'll see i didnt put r&b into any box and i never denied the fact that michael has always been an r&b/soul artist. i only pointed out how his sound is different than the today's r&b sound (which doesnt have mass appeal). blah!

[J5master]

If u say that michaels always been r&b is no different than saying his music has the same sound as chris browns, ushers etc sounds which it doesnt.

This sentence to me sounds like both of those things...both denying he's R&B and putting R&B in a box. I'm sorry. Maybe I did misinterpret.

[Bee]

I own some of their material. They weren't too shabby for that time period, imo

I used to own their material. But then, I lost it. LOL. I was a huge fan of that group as well. :)


i think ppl are just happy to know that michaels sticking to pop and not taking an r&b turn like many artists nowadays (given the fact that hes collaborating with r&b/hip hop artists and producers)

What's wrong with R&B music? You make it sound as if R&B music is not as good as pop music used to be. MJ always done R&B music. I mean, what do you define R&B music? The fact that he is collaborating with a lot of urban artists tell me that MJ is going for his core root: urban music.


Apparently J5, Roxanne and a few others here don't know that.
After all, Michael is the King of "POP", right?
Sorry for the sarcasm, LOL!

Good one. Some people feel that too much "brown" isn't really good for Mickey. LOL. Some of his fans love to forget about the fact that all of his biggest hits were R&B music.


K well MJ's R&B sound has been appealing to POP culture which makes him popular. Not all R&B sounds like Usher LOLOLOLOL. Rhythm and Blues...thats what it is. Not all R&B sounds the same and not all Pop sounds the same. I mean if u wanna put MJ in a box, u can say all his stuff sounds like N'sync if u wanna categorize him in "generic" pop...just like R&B sounds like "usher" lol. MJ has been in R&B for a loooooooooooooooooong time. What is most of the Thriller album? R&B : Billie Jean...Thriller...Lady In My life...WBss..baby be mine.......all R&B that became popular...which made it pop too. MJ's always have been rooted in R&B, and he hasn't steered away from it. Even his more rockish songs have some R&B center in it. Give Into Me, Beat It, and Dirty Diana...prime examples. Yes he's made it more appealing to many...like Hip Hop has become....there are hip hop songs that are pop, but that doesn't mean they aren't hip hop lol

Exactly. A lot of fans forget this about Michael. Also, MJ working with urban artists does not mean that he will become them because MJ knows his idenity. It means that he prefers to work with them or he likes what they offered him. When you really break it down, think about all of the producers that MJ has worked with throughout his music career: they all did urban music. From the people at Motown to Gamble and Huff to Q and Rod Temperton to Teddy to Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis to Rodney Jerkins and Dre and Vidal to now Will.i.am and Akon, Michael has always worked with the top producers of the urban music world. So, I asked myself at times, why do so many of his fans forget about this?


I think some fans just feel like they can sleep better at night if they know Michael is singing "pop" music. When you, me, and anybody who's been a Michael Jackson fan for more than 5 years can tell you unequivocately that dude's been rooted in R&B his whole life. Apparently, some fans think you have to look like Usher to sing R&B music. Why Michael looks like music royalty. He's too good to be fitted in the same category as a bunch of young black guys who have baggy jeans, tatoos, pierced ears, and bad attitudes. Right?
Pardon my sarcasm

Clapping hard. You are on point, my friend. Some fans really do think that if you do R&B it has to be sounding like R. Kelly or my man Usher. If MJ does hip hop, he has to wear his pants down and disrespect women in his music. I keep on telling fans that there are other forms of hip hop and R&B and they need to go an explore what those other forms are. Ignore the mainstream because in so many ways, it is manipulated and focus on what is not mainstream. Stop thinking that being an R&B singer/performer, you have to have sexy, nasty freaking songs in a CD. No, you don't. There are R&B artists like Musiq, Jill, Chrisste, etc. that do not do those type of songs. Fans got to stop thinking that in order to be an hip hop artist you have to cuss and disrespect people. No. There are people like Nas, Mos Def, the Roots even Kanye, that do not do that type of music. Michael is music royality, but also a grown man who makes his decisions and if he decides that he wants to work with whoever, then that is his decision. Great post.


A song like Give in to me, DS, Beat it could be considered as a rock song.

Then, what is the root of rock music? Rock and Roll which is known as "black music".

Look I see what you are saying that music and music at the end of the day. But there is nothing wrong with genres when trying to define music in a sense. I think that some fans who seem to be in denial about the fact that MJ's roots is R&B music needs to give it up. You are a fan of an R&B/Soul musician who happens to be the King of Pop and made the greatest selling CD ever. Live with it. :)

[Kingofpop2424]

I used to own their material. But then, I lost it. LOL. I was a huge fan of that group as well. :)



What's wrong with R&B music? You make it sound as if R&B music is not as good as pop music used to be. MJ always done R&B music. I mean, what do you define R&B music? The fact that he is collaborating with a lot of urban artists tell me that MJ is going for his core root: urban music.



Good one. Some people feel that too much "brown" isn't really good for Mickey. LOL. Some of his fans love to forget about the fact that all of his biggest hits were R&B music.



Exactly. A lot of fans forget this about Michael. Also, MJ working with urban artists does not mean that he will become them because MJ knows his idenity. It means that he prefers to work with them or he likes what they offered him. When you really break it down, think about all of the producers that MJ has worked with throughout his music career: they all did urban music. From the people at Motown to Gamble and Huff to Q and Rod Temperton to Teddy to Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis to Rodney Jerkins and Dre and Vidal to now Will.i.am and Akon, Michael has always worked with the top producers of the urban music world. So, I asked myself at times, why do so many of his fans forget about this?



Clapping hard. You are on point, my friend. Some fans really do think that if you do R&B it has to be sounding like R. Kelly or my man Usher. If MJ does hip hop, he has to wear his pants down and disrespect women in his music. I keep on telling fans that there are other forms of hip hop and R&B and they need to go an explore what those other forms are. Ignore the mainstream because in so many ways, it is manipulated and focus on what is not mainstream. Stop thinking that being an R&B singer/performer, you have to have sexy, nasty freaking songs in a CD. No, you don't. There are R&B artists like Musiq, Jill, Chrisste, etc. that do not do those type of songs. Fans got to stop thinking that in order to be an hip hop artist you have to cuss and disrespect people. No. There are people like Nas, Mos Def, the Roots even Kanye, that do not do that type of music. Michael is music royality, but also a grown man who makes his decisions and if he decides that he wants to work with whoever, then that is his decision. Great post.



Then, what is the root of rock music? Rock and Roll which is known as "black music".

Look I see what you are saying that music and music at the end of the day. But there is nothing wrong with genres when trying to define music in a sense. I think that some fans who seem to be in denial about the fact that MJ's roots is R&B music needs to give it up. You are a fan of an R&B/Soul musician who happens to be the King of Pop and made the greatest selling CD ever. Live with it. :)


I swear Bee, if some folks here found out that they were fans of an R&B/Soul artist, they'd probably have a heart attack, pee their pants, and then run down the street screaming, "NOOOOOOOOOO!!!"
So I think it'd be best if we just let them live in their own little world filled with denial.
Great post by the way.



Hollaback.

[Bee]

I swear Bee, if some folks here found out that they were fans of an R&B/Soul artist, they'd probably have a heart attack, pee their pants, and then run down the street screaming, "NOOOOOOOOOO!!!"
So I think it'd be best if we just let them live in their own little world filled with denial.
Great post by the way.

Dawg, you ain't lying. I mean, don't be shocked when they come on here flipping out and mess of that nature. I think we should just let them be before I or you get "in trouble". LOL. Thanks for the props.

[J5master]

I swear Bee, if some folks here found out that they were fans of an R&B/Soul artist, they'd probably have a heart attack, pee their pants, and then run down the street screaming, "NOOOOOOOOOO!!!"
So I think it'd be best if we just let them live in their own little world filled with denial.
Great post by the way.



Hollaback.
Basically.

[mistermaxxx]

MJ is R&B/ Soul first and foremost. thought folks knew.

[AllForMJ]

Yep! He sure is R&B/Soul first and foremost. He's also the Pied Piper. Wherever he goes his diverse fan base follows.

Don't worry about those that are gripping about the choices that he's making without their permission. They're going to follow him anyway just like they followed him to BET via their television sets and the Internet when he appeared on there, and just like they followed him to Ebony Magazine. LOL

Shoot, there were some here complaining about him doing songs with Akon and what did those same complainers do later? They YouTubed themselves some "Hold My Hand" every chance they got! LOL

See, this is why it's best not to try and control Michael Jackson. When people do this they only drive themselves up the wall. He's gonna do what he wants to do regardless of what anyone says. If he wants to sing R&B, he's gonna sing R&B. If he wants to sing Rock, he's gonna sing Rock. If he decides to sing Opera, he's gonna sing Opera. If he decides to mix it all together and sing Brockera, he's gonna sing Brockera.

It's a lot easier when ya just follow and listen. And whatever you can't get into, just skip, even if it means skipping the entire album. It's a lot easier than trying to get MJ to skip his plans and bow down to demands. If you don't like the songs on this upcoming album, you can listen to his songs of the previous years or wait for another one. Then, there's always that choice of not waiting at all. There are many options to chose from, but controlling Michael Jackson is not one of them. You will drive yourselves nuts tryin'.
:lol:

[Roxanne]

This sentence to me sounds like both of those things...both denying he's R&B and putting R&B in a box. I'm sorry. Maybe I did misinterpret.

maybe we both misinterpreted each other. when i initially said that michaels not r&b i meant todays r&b. when i noticed that it confused some i made it more clear by adding "todays" in front of "r&b". so u see my early posts stating "r&b" and my later ones "todays r&b" exactly because i saw how ppl didnt get that i meant r&b as we all know it nowadays. when i refer to r&b and put names of nowadays artists/producers next to it i always mean "todays" r&b. so when i said that im happy to find out michaels not taking an r&b turn given the fact that hes collaborating with r&b artists (of todays music) i thought everyone would know i was referring to todays r&b. when i said that i was wrong about that i made it more clear.
anyway i think i nailed my points on this topic and its getting real boring ....


I swear Bee, if some folks here found out that they were fans of an R&B/Soul artist, they'd probably have a heart attack, pee their pants, and then run down the street screaming, "NOOOOOOOOOO!!!"
So I think it'd be best if we just let them live in their own little world filled with denial.
Great post by the way.



err what ? :blink:

[Bee]

He's also the Pied Piper.

No offense, but that story was creepy. Just saying.

Anyway, I agreed with what you stated.

[AllForMJ]

maybe we both misinterpreted each other. when i initially said that michaels not r&b i meant todays r&b. when i noticed that it confused some i made it more clear by adding "todays" in front of "r&b". so u see my early posts stating "r&b" and my later ones "todays r&b" exactly because i saw how ppl didnt get that i meant r&b as we all know it nowadays. when i refer to r&b and put names of nowadays artists/producers next to it i always mean "todays" r&b. so when i said that im happy to find out michaels not taking an r&b turn given the fact that hes collaborating with r&b artists (of todays music) i thought everyone would know i was referring to todays r&b. when i said that i was wrong about that i made it more clear.
anyway i think i nailed my points on this topic and its getting real boring ....
Today's R&B music really isn't all that bad and today's R&B artists aren't either. Today's R&B artists are still very entertaining. I'd rather have them around than no one singing at all.

I think what's going on with today's R&B music have a lot to do with rap music. Don't get me wrong and don't misread what I'm saying. I love me some rap music and will dance to it just like I will dance to anything else. Rap came into my life while I was in high school. I was getting down to some Sugar Hill just like I was getting down to some Michael J. The beat will always pull you in and make your body move. It's the beat that makes it hard to ignore rap songs. Plus, some of these rappers are good at making their words flow. Some are really good at rapping free style.

But, I think rap songs gradually spilled over into R&B. Before the rap explosion, R&B songs had fewer words and we were really able to get a feel of the R&B artists' singing abilities. After the rap explosion, many R&B artists' ability to show they can carry a tune kinda got lost because their songs became very wordy. If they would scale back the words and bring forth more of their singing, they will be able to get it all to come together again. They also need to bring back the instruments. Especially the horns. Rappers don't need all of this because they're mainly trying to get their words to flow to a nice beat--a funky beat. If singers go that route and start leaving out instruments, their songs will sound like it's missing something.

Did you all see how well Beyonce's song "Crazy In Love" did? She had those horns didn't she? Do you see how well Robin Thicke's new song is doing? He went and got the veterans that worked with MJ didn't he?

The music industry as a whole needs to work a little harder at pinpointing the cusp of R&B and rap so they can separate the two genres again. This way, R&B will once again be R&B, and rap will be rap. Right now, R&B has turned into a genre that has fused itself with rapping causing the R&B artists to hold back on their singing abilities so they can say more words.

Look at the lyrics of R&B songs before the rap explosion and then look at the lyrics of R&B songs after the rap explosion and you will see the increase in words.

There used to be a time when people didn't know that Beyonce can blow. They know now because she made sure people know. There used to be a time when Mariah would really blow, but she's been holding back lately. But, even while holding back, everyone knows Mariah has a voice. She showed everyone early on and can do it whenever she wants.

Once the music industry allows R&B to be what it really is, things will balance out. Until then, at least Michael Jackson knows that he doesn't have to wait for them to figure it out, or for anyone to give him the go-ahead. He can show them now, if he wants. Or, he can give them something they've never even heard before. He can go in whatever direction he chooses because he is good at many different things.
:yes:


No offense, but that story was creepy. Just saying.

Anyway, I agreed with what you stated.
Glad you know I didn't mean it in a creepy way when I referred to MJ as the Pied Piper! :lol:

You're quick-witted.
:yes:

[J5master]

Yes I think people are so quick to label today's R&B music. Its far from great but it ain't THAT bad. U gotta pick & chose.

[Kingofpop2424]

maybe we both misinterpreted each other. when i initially said that michaels not r&b i meant todays r&b. when i noticed that it confused some i made it more clear by adding "todays" in front of "r&b". so u see my early posts stating "r&b" and my later ones "todays r&b" exactly because i saw how ppl didnt get that i meant r&b as we all know it nowadays. when i refer to r&b and put names of nowadays artists/producers next to it i always mean "todays" r&b. so when i said that im happy to find out michaels not taking an r&b turn given the fact that hes collaborating with r&b artists (of todays music) i thought everyone would know i was referring to todays r&b. when i said that i was wrong about that i made it more clear.
anyway i think i nailed my points on this topic and its getting real boring ....



err what ? :blink:


I didn't stutter Roxanne, lol.



Hollaback.

[Roxanne]

Today's R&B music really isn't all that bad and today's R&B artists aren't either. Today's R&B artists are still very entertaining. I'd rather have them around than no one singing at all.

I think what's going on with today's R&B music have a lot to do with rap music. Don't get me wrong and don't misread what I'm saying. I love me some rap music and will dance to it just like I will dance to anything else. Rap came into my life while I was in high school. I was getting down to some Sugar Hill just like I was getting down to some Michael J. The beat will always pull you in and make your body move. It's the beat that makes it hard to ignore rap songs. Plus, some of these rappers are good at making their words flow. Some are really good at rapping free style.

But, I think rap songs gradually spilled over into R&B. Before the rap explosion, R&B songs had fewer words and we were really able to get a feel of the R&B artists' singing abilities. After the rap explosion, many R&B artists' ability to show they can carry a tune kinda got lost because their songs became very wordy. If they would scale back the words and bring forth more of their singing, they will be able to get it all to come together again. They also need to bring back the instruments. Especially the horns. Rappers don't need all of this because they're mainly trying to get their words to flow to a nice beat--a funky beat. If singers go that route and start leaving out instruments, their songs will sound like it's missing something.

Did you all see how well Beyonce's song "Crazy In Love" did? She had those horns didn't she? Do you see how well Robin Thicke's new song is doing? He went and got the veterans that worked with MJ didn't he?

The music industry as a whole needs to work a little harder at pinpointing the cusp of R&B and rap so they can separate the two genres again. This way, R&B will once again be R&B, and rap will be rap. Right now, R&B has turned into a genre that has fused itself with rapping causing the R&B artists to hold back on their singing abilities so they can say more words.

Look at the lyrics of R&B songs before the rap explosion and then look at the lyrics of R&B songs after the rap explosion and you will see the increase in words.

There used to be a time when people didn't know that Beyonce can blow. They know now because she made sure people know. There used to be a time when Mariah would really blow, but she's been holding back lately. But, even while holding back, everyone knows Mariah has a voice. She showed everyone early on and can do it whenever she wants.

Once the music industry allows R&B to be what it really is, things will balance out. Until then, at least Michael Jackson knows that he doesn't have to wait for them to figure it out, or for anyone to give him the go-ahead. He can show them now, if he wants. Or, he can give them something they've never even heard before. He can go in whatever direction he chooses because he is good at many different things.
:yes:


personally i love todays r&b music. i love hip hop/rap as well. but i know that not everyone can listen to it and enjoy it. its not popular worldwide. michaels music always been the type of music that everyone could enjoy no matter where they come from, no matter what taste in music they have etc etc. so i say keep it POP as always mike :D



I didn't stutter Roxanne, lol.


Hollaback.

good for u :)

[J5master]

Here's the thing though, if you say that MJ's good at making things appealing world wide, what makes you think that if he were going to go into "today's R&B" (which he probably will cuz he always does lol)...thaat he won't make it appealing like he did every OTHER time he went into R&B of whatever time period he released an album?

[Roxanne]

hes already done "todays r&b" songs like "you rock my world" and made them sound POP.
so no i've never said that he cant make them appeal to a worldwide audience. as i previously stated michael can even take a gospel or a country song and make it sound pop. i was only concerned that if he collaborates with those artists/producers and if hes not in total charge of his projects then the songs might not have a very pop sound (which is clearly not the case here since the ppl who are collaborating with him have already said that the songs are "very pop". so we're just talking hypothetically here and im trying to answer ur question about what my previous concerns were). so i was just concerned about the influence those collaborators could have on his music and if they could change the sound of it. for instance u can notice how janets sound has changed over the years. it used to be more pop. it used to appeal to a wider audience.
thats all.

[J5master]

Pop is such a general term though, ANY THING can sound "pop". Usher is CLEARLY r&B but if you notice, he is a pop artist lol. Butterflies is Neo soul but was making its way to Pop standards. Most of dangerous was New Jack swing-- CLEARLY New Jack swing, and sounded like New Jack, but it was still pop. YRMW is clearly R&B too. so say MJ sang a song by Neyo that sounded like a Neyo song (like he did with R Kelly)...it's still R&B, even if it gets popular & u slap the name POP on it...it's still today's R&B. LOL that's what I think people R saying here...people R afraid to say it's still R&B. It still sounds like straight up R&B. Pop can sound like ANYTHING cuz ANYTHING can be popular.

[Roxanne]

yes its still r&B. who said any different ? in michaels case its popular r&b, soul, rock etc
why would ppl be afraid to say its r&b ? :blink: i dont get it :ermm:

[mickyj007]

Christian Audigier: The Nightclub at Treasure Island in Vegas
By Steve Friess
July 10, 2008

DESIGNER Christian Audigier was a few hours from opening his first nightclub last week, a swanky spread that looks out at the Las Vegas Strip from Treasure Island, but he was already moving past all that. He's got loftier plans.

Much loftier. An airline, in fact.

"It's going to be nice, comfortable, with nice waitresses and nice food, a cool drink and a nice movie," Audigier says, igniting one of three cigarettes laid out neatly for him by an assistant along with a yellow lighter. "I'm talking to different people. I'm not ready yet, but I'm going to do that."

Uh, OK. It's hard to comprehend how a fashion impresario -- even one responsible for the stunningly successful Von Dutch and Ed Hardy lines -- could pull off such an endeavor. Then again, as he explained this, he was sitting on the terrace of his eponymous nightclub. He also has a development deal to build a 36-story hotel with his name on it in Dubai.

So, really, who's to doubt the man at the center of one of the most meteoric rises in fashion history, a designer unknown to Americans a decade ago but who in May was regaled at his 50th birthday by the likes of clients Snoop Dogg, Fergie and Macy Gray? Michael Jackson showed up unexpectedly, declared Audigier the new King of Fashion and is now in talks for a Jackson-branded Audigier line.

"It's gonna be the new look of Michael, of course," Audigier says. "He's preparing a new album and a new tour, and I'm working on a collection to celebrate all the icons of rock, pop and funk. This is what I want to do in my collection for him."

After that, he says, clothing lines involving Madonna and Britney Spears may follow. In fact, the marriage between his clothes -- T-shirts emblazoned with elaborate and often Goth-inspired designs, going for more than $250 -- and the rock 'n' roll culture fits neatly into Audigier's earliest ambitions. He says as a teen he wanted to be Mick Jagger, and now, "Mick Jagger is wearing my clothes."

The nightclub makes Audigier the first designer to delve into the Vegas night life scene as an entrepreneur. He's partnered with Pure Management Group for a berth with an outdoor terrace facing Treasure Island's lagoon, where a pirate show takes place every 90 minutes. Inside, the space is tricked out with rhinestone-encrusted skulls and two 1,000-gallon tanks of 30 jellyfish each. The aim, he says, is "to instill a fashionable night life."

"When you're going into a club, you want to see sparkling and glitter and rhinestones," he says. "This nightclub opening is a big achievement for me, because having a nightclub in Vegas is not something I was dreaming in my life."

As Audigier moved about the place, two cameramen and a photographer tracked his every move, as they have for six years for a planned documentary he hopes to premiere at the Cannes Film Festival in May.

"This is really a success story, an American dream," says Audigier, who arrived unemployed in the U.S. in 2001. This year, his company is expected to gross $200 million in sales, and he owns homes in L.A., Miami, Paris and Brazil.

"I came to Los Angeles, and it was a struggle in the beginning. To put your mark on a line was very difficult, so I needed to do my own. Now look at where I am. It is amazing."

Steve Friess co-hosts the podcast "The Strip" at TheStripPodcast.com.



CHRISTIAN AUDIGIER: THE NIGHTCLUB

WHERE: Treasure Island Hotel-Casino, 3300 Las Vegas Blvd. S., Las Vegas

WHEN: Opens 10 p.m. Thursdays-Sundays

PRICE: Cover charge is $30 for men, $20 for women

INFO: (702) 894-7111, treasureisland.com

Thanks to Marni at MaxJax!
Source: http://www.latimes.com/features/prin...0,949865.story

[Roxanne]

i think we're all basically saying the same thing and its annoying when some ppl (not u) dont hesitate to start a fight out of nowhere and start insulting others and being straight up mean and rude. like this post right here :


I swear Bee, if some folks here found out that they were fans of an R&B/Soul artist, they'd probably have a heart attack, pee their pants, and then run down the street screaming, "NOOOOOOOOOO!!!"
So I think it'd be best if we just let them live in their own little world filled with denial.
Great post by the way.



Hollaback.

and this :crazy:



I think some fans just feel like they can sleep better at night if they know Michael is singing "pop" music. When you, me, and anybody who's been a Michael Jackson fan for more than 5 years can tell you unequivocately that dude's been rooted in R&B his whole life. Apparently, some fans think you have to look like Usher to sing R&B music. Why Michael looks like music royalty. He's too good to be fitted in the same category as a bunch of young black guys who have baggy jeans, tatoos, pierced ears, and bad attitudes. Right?
Pardon my sarcasm.


Hollaback.

blah :bs: :brow:

[J5master]

You said that you rather MJ NOT go in the "today's R&B" route (which u classified as the Usher/CB group)...but the POP route. But Usher/CB is pop cuz theyre popular....so that's what I'm arguing about. In the way beginning u said that if I were to say Mj's always been an R&B artist, he'd be like Usher or whatever....and that POP would be better...I'm saying that anything can be labeled pop, it's a general term, and that at the root of it all Mj's always been an R&B artist. Even rock songs MJ's done has R&B roots, like i said before.

[mickyj007]

I added a nice little quote guys :) go read it! :P

[J5master]

lol................nvm

[Roxanne]

ok we're just going around in circles on here and im done with this cuz i have other stuff to do too. BEFORE the statement that mj's songs are very pop came out
i USED TO have some concerns that michaels sound was gonna be different. now i dont anymore. chris and usher are not very popular worldwide and not everyone can listen to their stuff. of course they can have 1 song out of 20 that can have a more pop sound. im talking about the majority. yes if michael was not in charge of his projects and those collaborators were then it would be very possible that his music would sound like usher's.
obviously thats not the case here.

[summercrane]

I found a new quote to add to the front page...I was looking back through recent interviews with people who are in talks with MJ now and found this interview with Christian Audigier...this means there is now two quotes (one by Swizz Beatz and one by Audigier) that point to a tour being in the works...I'd say it's time to start getting excited haha...

http://www.latimes.com/features/prin...0,949865.story

Christian Audigier: The Nightclub at Treasure Island in Vegas
By -- Steve Friess
July 10, 2008
DESIGNER Christian Audigier was a few hours from opening his first nightclub last week, a swanky spread that looks out at the Las Vegas Strip from Treasure Island, but he was already moving past all that. He's got loftier plans.

Much loftier. An airline, in fact.

"It's going to be nice, comfortable, with nice waitresses and nice food, a cool drink and a nice movie," Audigier says, igniting one of three cigarettes laid out neatly for him by an assistant along with a yellow lighter. "I'm talking to different people. I'm not ready yet, but I'm going to do that."

Uh, OK. It's hard to comprehend how a fashion impresario -- even one responsible for the stunningly successful Von Dutch and Ed Hardy lines -- could pull off such an endeavor. Then again, as he explained this, he was sitting on the terrace of his eponymous nightclub. He also has a development deal to build a 36-story hotel with his name on it in Dubai.

So, really, who's to doubt the man at the center of one of the most meteoric rises in fashion history, a designer unknown to Americans a decade ago but who in May was regaled at his 50th birthday by the likes of clients Snoop Dogg, Fergie and Macy Gray? Michael Jackson showed up unexpectedly, declared Audigier the new King of Fashion and is now in talks for a Jackson-branded Audigier line.

"It's gonna be the new look of Michael, of course," Audigier says. "He's preparing a new album and a new tour, and I'm working on a collection to celebrate all the icons of rock, pop and funk. This is what I want to do in my collection for him."

After that, he says, clothing lines involving Madonna and Britney Spears may follow. In fact, the marriage between his clothes -- T-shirts emblazoned with elaborate and often Goth-inspired designs, going for more than $250 -- and the rock 'n' roll culture fits neatly into Audigier's earliest ambitions. He says as a teen he wanted to be Mick Jagger, and now, "Mick Jagger is wearing my clothes."

The nightclub makes Audigier the first designer to delve into the Vegas night life scene as an entrepreneur. He's partnered with Pure Management Group for a berth with an outdoor terrace facing Treasure Island's lagoon, where a pirate show takes place every 90 minutes. Inside, the space is tricked out with rhinestone-encrusted skulls and two 1,000-gallon tanks of 30 jellyfish each. The aim, he says, is "to instill a fashionable night life."

"When you're going into a club, you want to see sparkling and glitter and rhinestones," he says. "This nightclub opening is a big achievement for me, because having a nightclub in Vegas is not something I was dreaming in my life."

As Audigier moved about the place, two cameramen and a photographer tracked his every move, as they have for six years for a planned documentary he hopes to premiere at the Cannes Film Festival in May.

"This is really a success story, an American dream," says Audigier, who arrived unemployed in the U.S. in 2001. This year, his company is expected to gross $200 million in sales, and he owns homes in L.A., Miami, Paris and Brazil.

"I came to Los Angeles, and it was a struggle in the beginning. To put your mark on a line was very difficult, so I needed to do my own. Now look at where I am. It is amazing."

Steve Friess co-hosts the podcast "The Strip" at TheStripPodcast.com.

CHRISTIAN AUDIGIER: THE NIGHTCLUB
WHERE: Treasure Island Hotel-Casino, 3300 Las Vegas Blvd. S., Las Vegas

WHEN: Opens 10 p.m. Thursdays-Sundays

PRICE: Cover charge is $30 for men, $20 for women

INFO: (702) 894-7111, treasureisland.com

[Kingofpop2424]

i think we're all basically saying the same thing and its annoying when some ppl (not u) dont hesitate to start a fight out of nowhere and start insulting others and being straight up mean and rude. like this post right here :



and this :crazy:



blah :bs: :brow:



You calling me out Roxanne?
For the record, I wasn't picking a fight with you. I have better things to do with my time.
"Mean and rude", lol.



Hollaback.

[Toffy]

Holy crap... there's a new AMAZING quote and people are still too busy arguing about the definition of R&B and Pop lol

[J5master]

Yes but we already knew that. The article was from July 10th. People might have missed it though.

[Bee]

when i initially said that michaels not r&b i meant todays r&b. when i noticed that it confused some i made it more clear by adding "todays" in front of "r&b". so u see my early posts stating "r&b" and my later ones "todays r&b" exactly because i saw how ppl didnt get that i meant r&b as we all know it nowadays

Today's R&B, yesterday's R&B, it is still R&B music. You either like R&B music or you do not like it. Today's R&B consists of Alicia, Neyo, Erykah, Jill, Musiq, Mary J., Usher, etc. These people have their own way of doing R&B. Now, I admit, imo, I do not believed that R&B is not what it used to be because of the fact that a lot of it is hip hop influence. I am not saying that I am not a fan of hip hop, I am, but I prefer hip hop with a message. You are still trying to say that MJ should not do today's R&B and I think he should because he is an R&B artist. And you didn't stutter or did not make yourself clear. You made yourself very clear: You do not want MJ to do R&B music, in general. Just say it.


Glad you know I didn't mean it in a creepy way when I referred to MJ as the Pied Piper!

You're quick-witted.

LOL. Thanks. I didn't mean to say it in a mean way, it is just that, the story and all is just creepy, but you made great points.


anyway i think i nailed my points on this topic and its getting real boring ....

The topic is getting real boring because no one is agreeing with you or it is because you are starting to realized that MJ does R&B music? Just curious. I love it when people state that a topic is getting boring because they are reading what they want to read. It always makes me laugh.


"It's gonna be the new look of Michael, of course," Audigier says. "He's preparing a new album and a new tour, and I'm working on a collection to celebrate all the icons of rock, pop and funk. This is what I want to do in my collection for him."

The article is over a month old. I remember reading it on this board.


I'm saying that anything can be labeled pop, it's a general term

Exactly. Pop music stands for POPULAR music. Anything that is popular at the moment. That is all it is. I would not even call it a genre really because there is no real way to say what is pop music. Country, R&B, Hip Hop, Soul, Jazz can be pop music.


i think we're all basically saying the same thing and its annoying when some ppl (not u) dont hesitate to start a fight out of nowhere and start insulting others and being straight up mean and rude. like this post right here

Who is "fighting" with you? You "knew" what you were saying and you said it. People disagreed with you. You could have at least learned from what was posted on here instead of assuming that people were "fighting you". Please, grow up. Many people disagree with me and I do not complain about it. People have lives and things to do that matter. If you do not like this thread, you can always leave and post on another thread.

[Roxanne]

*sigh* Dear Lord :no:

[mjscarousal]

Today's R&B, yesterday's R&B, it is still R&B music. You either like R&B music or you do not like it. Today's R&B consists of Alicia, Neyo, Erykah, Jill, Musiq, Mary J., Usher, etc. These people have their own way of doing R&B. Now, I admit, imo, I do not believed that R&B is not what it used to be because of the fact that a lot of it is hip hop influence. I am not saying that I am not a fan of hip hop, I am, but I prefer hip hop with a message. You are still trying to say that MJ should not do today's R&B and I think he should because he is an R&B artist. And you didn't stutter or did not make yourself clear. You made yourself very clear: You do not want MJ to do R&B music, in general. Just say it.



Bee the r&b that the current artists make today is not "R&B" its JUST popular music. R&B is not suppose to sound like the mess they make on the radio. Real r&B is classic Michael Jackson "off the wall" Aretha Franklin and Marvin Gaye they exactly did R&B/ soul and thats what r&b really is "rhythm and blues" AND to be frankly honest I wouldn't want Michael to make mainstream r&b music the same crap these current artists are making, why? because its garbage its not real music, it just sells to the masses. Whatever genre of music Michael makes its going to automatically be considered "pop" music because he is a very commercial artist and has been successful in mainstream his entire career BUT if mike wants to take that R&B approach, thats cool I just don't want him to make music JUST to get played on the radio. Just keep making the classic and quality music, thats just my thing...

[J5master]

Naaaaaaaaaaaaaa....R&B is R&B, whether you feel it's bad or good, it's R&B lol. And you mean u ain't gonna give Mary J, Alicia, Erykah, or Jill ANY credit just cuz it ain't old school? come on.

Again R&B is R&B, bad & the good & the popular. MJ has always taken the R&B approach. In every album. If MJ were to take the R&B approach today with today's sound, it would be NO different than what he's done with other albums. He has taken it, put his own thing in it, and that's that.

[Kingofpop2424]

Bee the r&b that the current artists make today is not "R&B" its JUST popular music. R&B is not suppose to sound like the mess they make on the radio. Real r&B is classic Michael Jackson "off the wall" Aretha Franklin and Marvin Gaye they exactly did R&B/ soul and thats what r&b really is "rhythm and blues" AND to be frankly honest I wouldn't want Michael to make mainstream r&b music the same crap these current artists are making, why? because its garbage its not real music, it just sells to the masses. Whatever genre of music Michael makes its going to automatically be considered "pop" music because he is a very commercial artist and has been successful in mainstream his entire career BUT if mike wants to take that R&B approach, thats cool I just don't want him to make music JUST to get played on the radio. Just keep making the classic and quality music, thats just my thing...


Oh please, LMAO!
Will you PLEASE stop trying to define R&B.
Because you don't know what you're talkin' about.



Hollaback.

[michaeljojacksonfan]

http://www.rap-up.com/2008/08/27/ne-...chael-jackson/

Ne-Yo has big plans for two music legends. The acclaimed singer/songwriter is penning songs for Whitney Houston’s and Michael Jackson’s highly anticipated comeback albums. The 25-year-old spoke to Rap-Up.com about his role in bringing the two superstars back into the spotlight.

“It’s coming along slowly, but surely. They’re being very selective about what they keep, which they’re supposed to be. These are two very important albums. It’s the one that’s going to bring Whitney back and the one that’s going to take all the attention off of [Michael Jackson’s] personal life, hopefully, and put people back in the mindstate of why they love Michael in the first place,” Ne-Yo said backstage at a recent taping of “FNMTV” in Hollywood.

The hitmaker also shared his advice on how the King of Pop can stage a successful comeback. “The entertainment side—the way he dances, the way he sings, and him being one of the greatest entertainers that got put on the stage—bring people back in that mind frame and away from thinking about when his last surgery was or if he still has the monkey or whatever the hell it is. He’s still Michael Jackson.”

Ne-Yo will release his third studio album Year of the Gentleman on September 16th. Both Houston’s and Jackson’s albums do not currently have release dates.

[mjscarousal]

Oh please, LMAO!
Will you PLEASE stop trying to define R&B.
Because you don't know what you're talkin' about.



Hollaback.

Nobody is defining R&B and I dont have to stop doing anything because its all my opinion at the end of the day. Maybe if you slow down and read what I said... I said that the old school classic r&b is what REAL r&b is suppose to sound like ALOT better than that trash they play on the mainstream radio period.


Naaaaaaaaaaaaaa....R&B is R&B, whether you feel it's bad or good, it's R&B lol. And you mean u ain't gonna give Mary J, Alicia, Erykah, or Jill ANY credit just cuz it ain't old school? come on.

Again R&B is R&B, bad & the good & the popular. MJ has always taken the R&B approach. In every album. If MJ were to take the R&B approach today with today's sound, it would be NO different than what he's done with other albums. He has taken it, put his own thing in it, and that's that.

NO r&b is not r&b JUST like rap is not all rap.... I'll give Erkah Badu and Jill scott credit and plenty of others to that are non commercial. If I want to listen to some real hip hop I'll put in Run DMC, wu tang, a tribe called quest, if I want to listen to some real r&b I'll put in floetry, max well and erkah badu and IF I want to listen to some popular music worth while, I'll put on Michael Jackson.
Michael has not ALWAYS taken the r&b approach with ALL his albums.

[J5master]

NO r&b is not r&b JUST like rap is not all rap.... I'll give Erkah Badu and Jill scott credit and plenty of others to that are non commercial. If I want to listen to some real hip hop I'll put in Run DMC, wu tang, a tribe called quest, if I want to listen to some real r&b I'll put in floetry, max well and erkah badu and IF I want to listen to some popular music worth while, I'll put on Michael Jackson.
Michael has not ALWAYS taken the r&b approach with ALL his albums.

If rap is not rap then what is it? If R&B isn't R&B then what is it? Usher has a clear R&B style...which is R&B...but it's also POP, because it's POPular, which also makes Usher a POP artist. same with MJ. Come on just cuz u don't like it don't make the songs not part of the genre lol.

*cough*

OTW -
Dstyge =R&B
Rock With You=R&B
Girlfriend=R&B
I can't Help it=R&B
It's the Falling In Love=R&B

Thriller-
Baby Be Mine=R&B
BJ=R&B
TGIM=R&B
Lady IML= R&B
Human Nature=R&B
PYT=R&B

Bad-
IJCsLY= R&B
Just Good Friends=R&B
MITM=R&B
TWYMMF=R&B
Liberian Girl=R&B

Dangerous-
Who Is It=R&B
she Drives Me wild=R&B (New Jack is essentially another form of R&B)
CLHGA=R&B
RTT=R&B
ITC=R&B
Keep The Faith=R&B
Dangerous=R&B

History-
TTA=R&B
YANA=R&B
Ds=R&B
Money=R&B (even a stepper's set *for u Chicagoians lol*)
Tabloid Junkie=R&B
History=R&B

Invincible-
Unbreakable=R&B
Invincible=R&B
BOD, HCW, YRMW,Butterflies,2000 Watts, Whatever Happens, DWA, YAML=R&B!!!!! lol

HMH=R&B!! lol

I think I made my point. Half or more of each is R&B lol. Dangerous, Invincible, OTW, & Thriller were essentially R&B albums. I even omitted songs that are clearly rooted in R&B but have maybe a more rock/gospel/classical whatever quality to them. MJ takes the R&B approach EVERY album cuz he is an R&B artist....he may not think "im gonna make R&B songs"...which is what's great about him because he does make it more universal, but bottom line, it's still R&B, just Universal R&B! :lol: He is rooted in that. It won't go away :lol: Just like he wants to see hip hop b more universal, but when it does get more universal...it's not gonna be called HIP POP! :lol: it's still hip hop, but also pop. Like LL Cool J was, or Nelly, or whatever. Like Lil Wayne is now lol.

[Kingofpop2424]

Nobody is defining R&B and I dont have to stop doing anything because its all my opinion at the end of the day. Maybe if you slow down and read what I said... I said that the old school classic r&b is what REAL r&b is suppose to sound like ALOT better than that trash they play on the mainstream radio period.



NO r&b is not r&b JUST like rap is not all rap.... I'll give Erkah Badu and Jill scott credit and plenty of others to that are non commercial. If I want to listen to some real hip hop I'll put in Run DMC, wu tang, a tribe called quest, if I want to listen to some real r&b I'll put in floetry, max well and erkah badu and IF I want to listen to some popular music worth while, I'll put on Michael Jackson.
Michael has not ALWAYS taken the r&b approach with ALL his albums.


Well thank god R&B (and all other forms of music) have evolved over the years. Because if it were up to you, we'd still be stuck in the 1960's. All you have to say MJCarousel, is that you respectfully dislike today's R&B music.
Not call it all crap.
Beause I guarantee, folks like me, J5, and Bee are gonna disagree. And maybe you need to clean your ears out or somethin', cause EVERY single album Michael Jackson's made has produced a straight-up classic R&B joint.
That's an R&B approach.
Yep.



Hollaback.

[Bee]

Bee the r&b that the current artists make today is not "R&B" its JUST popular music. R&B is not suppose to sound like the mess they make on the radio. Real r&B is classic Michael Jackson "off the wall" Aretha Franklin and Marvin Gaye they exactly did R&B/ soul and thats what r&b really is "rhythm and blues" AND to be frankly honest I wouldn't want Michael to make mainstream r&b music the same crap these current artists are making, why? because its garbage its not real music, it just sells to the masses. Whatever genre of music Michael makes its going to automatically be considered "pop" music because he is a very commercial artist and has been successful in mainstream his entire career BUT if mike wants to take that R&B approach, thats cool I just don't want him to make music JUST to get played on the radio. Just keep making the classic and quality music, thats just my thing...

I see what you are saying. Like J5 said, R&B is R&B whether it is mainstream or not whether it is good or not. I prefer R&B music that has a good beat, good lyrics, and respectful. It can be mainstream or non mainstream, old school or new school, for the youngins or the old heads. TBH, Michael is grown and can work with whoever he wants to work with. You do not define what R&B is. You just do what you want to do. I like old school R&B and new school R&B. So, the current R&B artists: Ne-Yo, Alicia, Mary, etc. are crap to you? No offense, but R&B music, like all genres, evolve. That is the reality of music, it changes. I do not want MJ to make music just to be played on the radio, either, but I want MJ to make great music. "Butterflies" was played on the radio A LOT when radio was playing "crap" music. That song was a hit because it was a great song. There are a few mainstream artists that care about the craft and the music. They are out there. Just do not put them all in one box. As long as it is uplifting and has meaning, then that is all that matters.


Come on just cuz u don't like it don't make the songs not part of the genre lol.

Thank you. I never got that from people. It is not "good music" when it is mainstream. LOL. WHAT? Not every song is BAD. LOL. The radio is corrupt, ok, that is a known fact. However, there is talent out there. I love the Jills, Musiqs, Erkayhs just as much as I love the Ne-Yos, Marys and Alicias. They all make "good music" to me. It is about taste at the end of the day.

[mjscarousal]

Well thank god R&B (and all other forms of music) have evolved over the years. Because if it were up to you, we'd still be stuck in the 1960's. All you have to say MJCarousel, is that you respectfully dislike today's R&B music.
Not call it all crap.
Beause I guarantee, folks like me, J5, and Bee are gonna disagree. And maybe you need to clean your ears out or somethin', cause EVERY single album Michael Jackson's made has produced a straight-up classic R&B joint.
That's an R&B approach.
Yep.


No you need to clean your ears out and just accept other folks opinions which I have done with yours and others. If I think its all crap, thats me and if you dont then thats you.... MOST keyword MOST of the mainstream music is garbage. Their is no originality, no soul, no talent, no nothing.... Music has grown over the years and I'm not saying we should all be stuck in the 60's BUT music should at least transition to a positive light. The transition of MAINSTREAM music has been terrible BUT there is plenty of good music out there today that is non commercial. Once again every song on EVERY Michael Jackson album has not taken the classic r&b approach. I agree that alot of his songs are but not an entire album except for maybe Off the wall. Off the wall every song on that album is classic r&b




If rap is not rap then what is it? If R&B isn't R&B then what is it? Usher has a clear R&B style...which is R&B...but it's also POP, because it's POPular, which also makes Usher a POP artist. same with MJ. Come on just cuz u don't like it don't make the songs not part of the genre lol.

: it's still hip hop, but also pop. Like LL Cool J was, or Nelly, or whatever. Like Lil Wayne is now lol.

Michael does a diverse of genres on his albums, its NOT JUST r&b and who cares Michael is a pop artist.... the mess they play on the radio is just popular music for mass appeal, thats it... I don't consider it nothing more or nothing less. It is apart of the genre it is technically BUT I don't consider it REAL r&b, real rap because its not, its just commercial music, thats it.... thats My opinion and its not changing no time soon until these mainstream artists make some real music. LL cool J old school that was hip hop... hip hop wasn't really a genre either it was like a movement that occur during the late 80's and 90's... Lil wayne is not hip hop and Nelly isn't either they are just mainstream rappers. People associate hip hop and rap BUT there really 2 different things.

I don't like mainstream music JUST because its "popular"
If that be the case I wouldn't be listening to Michael Jackson. MOST of the mainstream music today is just garabage. Michael Jackson is the last artist over the last 20 years that was POPULAR but actually made great music which is lacking in todays music industry period.

[J5master]

MJ isn't just R&B, but a vast majority of his work either is R&B or rooted in R&B. so he's a pop artist. But also R&B, but if people refuse to admit that que cera lol I've listed why MJ is rooted in R&B, song by song.

sure I'm not saying that it's GOOD or QUALITY or not. But it's part of the genre no less. and ok, rap/hiphop whatever u wanna call it does not stop being rap/hiphop once it's popular. That's my point in that.

[mjjfan94]

I am very excited to buy the new alblum i know that Michael has worked very hard and put his mind and heart to and i like the fact he took his time maybe this ablum is going to be the bomb!!:)

[Superstition]

MJ isn't just R&B, but a vast majority of his work either is R&B or rooted in R&B. so he's a pop artist. But also R&B, but if people refuse to admit that que cera lol I've listed why MJ is rooted in R&B, song by song.

sure I'm not saying that it's GOOD or QUALITY or not. But it's part of the genre no less. and ok, rap/hiphop whatever u wanna call it does not stop being rap/hiphop once it's popular. That's my point in that.

Yes, this is very true.

Michael Jackson's music is rooted in R&B/Soul. Yes, it's pop.. but they label EVERYTHING pop nowadays. It's why you hear 50 Cent and Eminem on POP radio. Pop just means "popular". At some point, everything somehow became "pop". But Michael Jackson, in my mind, is an R&B artist. Even his songs that many would consider pop would be considered R&B if done by another artist.

Now, of course he does have songs that I deem as more "pop" or rock (Black or White, Give In To Me, etc.), but for the most part, he is an R&B artist and even his songs that may not be categorically placed in the R&B ring are still rooted in R&B or have an R&B tinge to them.

[damien shields]

lol, i go away for a few days and come back to find 14 page thread. i think there must be lots of news.. oh, there isnt.. ur arguing about the difference between r&b and pop and what genre michael is?

newsflash. michael jackson is not one genre of anything.. fashion, dance, music.

you could have made a whole new thread to discuss that shizen.

[troubleman84]

He's a Motown (pop/rock/R&B/dance/funk/soul) artist. :lol:

Dancing in the street. ;)

[elusive moonwalker]

http://www.boston.com/ae/music/artic...life_of_riley/ (http://www.boston.com/ae/music/articles/2009/02/16/catching_up_with_the_life_of_riley/)


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A. I haven't been called yet so I don't know what's going on with it. I'm sure he'll want to hear the songs we have. But if it doesn't go to him it's going to Chris Brown. (Laughs). </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
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didnt someone on here claim to have spoken to teddy and he said the opposite? there goes the insider tag

[moonwalker83]

http://www.boston.com/ae/music/artic...life_of_riley/ (http://www.boston.com/ae/music/articles/2009/02/16/catching_up_with_the_life_of_riley/)


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A. I haven't been called yet so I don't know what's going on with it. I'm sure he'll want to hear the songs we have. But if it doesn't go to him it's going to Chris Brown. (Laughs). </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
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didnt someone on here claim to have spoken to teddy and he said the opposite? there goes the insider tag

Well, if this is true that'd be a pity... I like Teddy. But maybe (I hope) Mike is already planning something even better...

[Hess]

Chris Brown! Not that this has anything to do on this board, but how can he beat up Rhianna that way? That's very bad!

Actually I read somewhere that James Brown did also beat up his wife and was proved guilty in court!

I'm just glad MJ knows how to treat women and respects them!

[Momma Shannon]

Lets get back on topic guys :yes:

[144,000]

because he is a producer who is NOT an attention whore like TimbaBLAND.

Timba puts his name on everyones work. He produces a song and its released as a freakin' TimbaBland song. I feel so sorry for OneRepublic who in 2006 wrote, sang and released the song Apologize. It was a hit but on a smaller scale. Then in 2007 TimbaBland gets his hands on it, give the song the EXACT same musical base, just creates it in a machine, not with instruments, and ONEREPUBLIC re-record their vocals.. Thats just ONE example.

RedOne obviously doesnt do that, which i like.
i realize ppl have a problem with timbaland, but i do like what he did with apologize..i heard the original version..and i have to say, timbaland has talent.

meanwhile..always wonderfully refreshing to hear the new mj album updates. thanks:)