a million copies in a week is to be applauded [Archive] - The Michael Jackson Community

mistermaxxx

27-06-2008, 01:26 AM

dangerous_88

27-06-2008, 01:28 AM

i think it's sad that this guy sold that much.

real music doesn't sell at all these days.

my 2 cents.

DuranDuran

27-06-2008, 02:37 AM

He's popular because he talks a lot of trash in magazines, and some people like that

LiLi317

27-06-2008, 02:41 AM

Skip Lil Wayne He Aint Orginal & He Needs TO Get Rid Of Those Tattoos.And He Stole That Cover For His Album From Biggie.If Tupac & Biggie Were Still Here There Wouldnt Be A Lil Wayne Or Some Of These "So-Called" Rappers.Ugh...I Can't Stand Music These Days..But ......Congrats To Him

mello1

27-06-2008, 02:45 AM

It means nothing to me. I am not impressed with the sales of below the bar music. If you want to call it that. Just says a lot about some people's taste.

In my opinion.

TillitsGone

27-06-2008, 02:50 AM

:clapping: Congrats to him.

As for his music in general, ain't nothing really special about it. He's lasted as long as he has because thats whats being played on the radio out of popularity, and that somehow alot of folks love it. The majority of music thats being played ain't even real music, and when there's others that do, its being downplayed by this crap, IMO.

browneyedgirl

27-06-2008, 05:25 AM

Congrats to Weezy.

I know a lot dislike him, but who else is out there for mainstream listeners? 50 Cent? Soulja Boy?
If you hate hip-hop in general, then it's pointless to judge him. But if you listen to Wayne's mixtapes and not this mainstream stuff, it's evident he's a great lyricist. There's only a minority who can be labeled that, like Jay-Z for example.
Of course, there are far better like Mos Def, Talib Kweli, KRS-One, the list goes on... but they're not classified as mainstream. Of course Wayne has the southern hype behind him and it's a boost. I haven't heard that in a while though... a million in a week? Good for him.

michaelsson

27-06-2008, 06:48 AM

Gooooo wayne! whoop whoop lol! some1 told me he and baby bought alot of the albums n passed them out n the hood lol..and if thats true..is it cheating? lol

BONGANI

27-06-2008, 11:12 AM

I dont like the way Weezy raps, that voice is enough to turn me off, I've tried to give him a chance but he just doesnt do it HOWEVER there's a song called Mr Carter where he features Jay Z, now that track is the bomb, or is it because I like Jay Z?

serena williams

27-06-2008, 01:05 PM

so what if you don't like Lil weeie wayne but you gotta acknowledge anybody at any time that can pull down a million copies in a week. that says that said artist is speaking to alot of ears and is in tone with what is happening.

so what do you think of Lil wayne or any artist for that matters that opens out of the box with a million copies sold?? speak on it. I remember when Michael Jackson use to do it but there was no soundscan back then,but still you just knew.

Kany West also sold a million copies in a week but lets see if he will remake it for his next album .

Plus he sells a lot in the US not even in the rest of world , finaly he wont sell so much CDS if he doesnt sell well worldwide . In the US if you are young , new in the market and above all do RNB or Rap music you can sell very well , but he should takes advantage of this situation because that wont last , not sure that the second album will sell as well .

Travis

27-06-2008, 09:01 PM

It's impressive in this day and age to sell that many copies but the music itself is far from impressive.

DuranDuran

27-06-2008, 10:26 PM

not sure that the second album will sell as well .
I don't listen to him, but I'm pretty sure this isn't his 1st album

troubleman84

27-06-2008, 10:31 PM

Gooooo wayne! whoop whoop lol! some1 told me he and baby bought alot of the albums n passed them out n the hood lol..and if thats true..is it cheating? lol

That's what you call payola, my brother. :yes:

troubleman84

27-06-2008, 10:32 PM

I don't listen to him, but I'm pretty sure this isn't his 1st album

No it's not:

The Block Is Hot
Lights Out
500 Degrees
The Carter I
The Carter II
The Carter III

...and probably 10, 15 mixtapes since 1999.

Soso Deaf

27-06-2008, 11:32 PM

his stuff leaked, he's put out a million and one mix tapes and his ass still goes to #1....wowza not bad but lollipop sux

daphnieas

28-06-2008, 12:06 AM

It's impressive in this day and age to sell that many copies but the music itself is far from impressive.

I second that. :yes:

dangerous_88

28-06-2008, 12:40 AM

selling and good music?

come on people, make a distinction...

memyselfni

28-06-2008, 04:10 AM

majority of his fans are Caucasian teenagers....

arXter

28-06-2008, 04:16 AM

majority of his fans are Caucasian teenagers....
that goes for every single mainstream act, 'black' music more so than any other.

Cinnamon234

28-06-2008, 05:40 AM

Not a big fan, but congrats to Weezy all the same. I think it's amazing that anyone can pull those kinds of numbers, so props to him. His success proves that people are willing to go out there and buy albums afterall......

MoOnWaLk4MeBaBy

28-06-2008, 06:52 AM

Congrats to him. "Lollipop" is the hottest thing to dance to.

dangerous_88

28-06-2008, 07:32 AM

TillitsGone

28-06-2008, 08:20 AM

It doesn't really have nothing to do with being a MJ fan, per se. People just have different tastes in music, that's all.

dangerous_88

28-06-2008, 01:57 PM

Yeah but to me it would be disgraceful to listen to someone who sings lyrics such as those in "lollipop"

EssenceOfMagic

28-06-2008, 02:20 PM

I can't even name a single song of his :mellow: but a million in one week! that's incredible!!!!

Silouette

28-06-2008, 02:31 PM

If you liked The Carter II then the anticipation of III is what made it sell as well as it did.
I loved The Carter II. But this one is garbage! Lolipop is the best track...what does that tell ya.
I like Lil Wayne but I'm disappointed with this latest release.

troubleman84

28-06-2008, 03:20 PM

music...

i really miss it.

OK sorry if I am narrow-minded , I try not to be all the time, but I can't help myself but asking...

How can a MICHAEL JACKSON fan , appreciating good music, listen to THIS?

Not fighting,just don't understand really...

Don't worry, I don't. But it really doesn't have anything to do with being a MJ fan. You can be a STEVIE WONDER fan or a MADONNA fan but it doesn't change who you are if you listen to Weezy. Me personally, I think he sucks.

Bee

28-06-2008, 04:07 PM

But if you listen to Wayne's mixtapes and not this mainstream stuff, it's evident he's a great lyricist.

How come he doesn't show that he is a great lyricist in his mainstream CDs? Just asking.

Congrats to Wayne? Let me think..... alright. However, his music is trash. I was never a fan of his music at all. I do not understand the hype and I do not understand the big deal about him. I really don't. Wayne have been out for like ten years when he was with the hot boys. He talks some mess in magazines about all sorts of things.

Anyway, I listened to "Lollypop" and "A Milli" and the songs are complete trash. I like the remix to "A Milli" because Jay Z killed it. That is about it.

I wouldn't call his stuff music, I would call it garbage. I am into real hip hop artists anyway.

How can a MICHAEL JACKSON fan , appreciating good music, listen to THIS?

I think it is a matter of tastes. There are of MJ fans - fans of anyone - that love his music. It is about taste at the end of the day. I personally can't stand him.

Yeah but to me it would be disgraceful to listen to someone who sings lyrics such as those in "lollipop"

Well, I feel the same way you do but there are plenty of people who loves what he says in that song. I have no clue what he is talking about but I do know, when I can make it out, what he is trying to say and mean.

arXter

28-06-2008, 04:26 PM

How come he doesn't show that he is a great lyricist in his mainstream CDs? Just asking.
probably the same reason why will.i.am took effort to release his soulful and complex works on smaller labels while he ripped the mainstream with bs ringtone music. it's all about accepting creative restrictions for the success.

having said that, i haven't heard any of Lil Wayne's lesser known stuff but i can say that the only decent thing i attribute to him is ditching veteran production crapster Mannie Fresh. and even then his sounds are shyte barring 9th Wonder and Kanye.

memyselfni

29-06-2008, 05:31 AM

many people like wayne's voice....cause they say its different from others...i like some of his stuff..he makes me laugh with some of the stuff he says...

PopPrince89

29-06-2008, 06:18 AM

Gooooo wayne! whoop whoop lol! some1 told me he and baby bought alot of the albums n passed them out n the hood lol..and if thats true..is it cheating? lol
is this the same person that told you most of Beyonce's solo songs were unreleased Destiny's Child songs????

PopPrince89

29-06-2008, 06:21 AM

its funny how practically everyone in this thread is bashing Wayne in his new found success.. i guess its true what they say, "the more successful one gets, the more people start to hate"

arXter

29-06-2008, 07:40 AM

i guess its true what they say, "the more successful one gets, the more people start to hate"
you guessed correct mate - the more 'successful' one gets, the bigger the exposure, the more prone it is to criticism, and the louder the negativities; no thanks to defensive fans who battle them.

Lil Wayne's pop music is no different to any other of today's 'successful' acts - you should know, you're a proud Chris Brown hater and "ain't afraid to show it", init?

SIDEWALK

29-06-2008, 10:06 AM

Nice to know a million copies can still be sold.

mike can surley do 5 million at least imo

not heard any of lil waynes stuff so i cant comment on that.

dangerous_88

29-06-2008, 10:58 AM

its funny how practically everyone in this thread is bashing Wayne in his new found success.. i guess its true what they say, "the more successful one gets, the more people start to hate"

One word - BULLSH!T

memyselfni

29-06-2008, 09:17 PM

memyselfni

29-06-2008, 10:05 PM

Nice to know a million copies can still be sold.

not heard any of lil waynes stuff so i cant comment on that.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=seFfvz8DDk8
http://youtube.com/watch?v=5ug4jSvNsRE&feature=related
http://youtube.com/watch?v=GdfMQfGtYKc&feature=related
http://youtube.com/watch?v=4bBmfZwWlkw&feature=related

SIDEWALK

29-06-2008, 10:37 PM

http://youtube.com/watch?v=seFfvz8DDk8
http://youtube.com/watch?v=5ug4jSvNsRE&feature=related
http://youtube.com/watch?v=GdfMQfGtYKc&feature=related
http://youtube.com/watch?v=4bBmfZwWlkw&feature=related

Thank you!

I'll check these out in the morning :)

PopPrince89

30-06-2008, 09:48 AM

you guessed correct mate - the more 'successful' one gets, the bigger the exposure, the more prone it is to criticism, and the louder the negativities; no thanks to defensive fans who battle them.

Lil Wayne's pop music is no different to any other of today's 'successful' acts - you should know, you're a proud Chris Brown hater and "ain't afraid to show it", init?

I disliked chris brown from the moment he stepped on the scene...I hated "run it" and the video so the more popular he got the more I was confused as to why...Lil Wayne is a different story imo...before his "pop" success hip hop lovers loved them some Wayne..he wasnt as popular in mainstream music but was still one of the most respected and favored rappers (his mixtapes and earlier albums were some of his fiercest) but now that he has a number song (lollipop) that the whole world is singing and a number platinum albm becuz he's been ablt to reach out to more fans than just the streets, he's getting flack for it...that's what pop music is...its "popular music" duh...so why love when they're not popular and hate when they become popular? Its like the kid at school that you have in your class that is a cool person to talk 2 and be around but isn't that well known around the school..then one day he becomes popular, not in vain, but becuz he brances out of his element and ppl cling to it, but u now despise him for no legit reasn..its stupid

arXter

30-06-2008, 09:56 AM

before his "pop" success hip hop lovers loved them some Wayne..he wasnt as popular in mainstream music but was still one of the most respected and favored rappers
LOL no that's very wrong, he's a divisive figure in the underground.

duh...so why love when they're not popular and hate when they become popular?
i don't think you got my point about exposure - when he's underground, only his fans will listen to him - when he's popular, he's shoved down the throats of everyone who has a TV, radio, unenlightened friends and access to the net. plus the fact that his audience is grown by 10,000-folds - you get more opinions.

Lil Wayne = yet anoher stab in Hip-Hop's heart.

...hip-hop lovers LOL

PopPrince89

30-06-2008, 09:58 AM

One word - BULLSH!T
Far from bullshit..absolute truth

MJ is a prime example..the bigger he got, the more bullshit he got..the rumors, tabloids, accusations, criticism, jokes, it got worse with every album cz he became successful with every album..not saying success is directly related to getting hated on but then again it sometimes is directly related as well as in directly

dangerous_88

30-06-2008, 02:23 PM

yeah I get what you are saying, but the example of lil wayne is bullshit.

Cause MJ's

-voice
-dance
-lyrics
-musical structure

is FAAAAAAAAR better than that rapper's

so please don't sort them in the same basket!

SIDEWALK

30-06-2008, 04:49 PM

Anybody else know, N'Sync sold two million records in ONE day!

that's amazing imo

arXter

30-06-2008, 05:11 PM

Anybody else know, N'Sync sold two million records in ONE day!

that's amazing imo
http://www.bbc.co.uk/606/2/refresh/images/smileys/f_laugh.gif well there you go.

Soso Deaf

30-06-2008, 05:35 PM

only cuzhis fans bought 12albums a day....then didn't open them and turned themback to the store the foloowing tuesday.

look at the sales in the first week then see how far they've fallen in sales thenext week. that's how bsb and nsync sold so many...they had 60%+ decline in sales

troubleman84

30-06-2008, 06:44 PM

So did Britney's and Eminem's and the Backstreet Boys' second albums

PopPrince89

30-06-2008, 07:13 PM

Well everyone can bitch and be practical about the topic but that doesn't change the fact that Lil Wayne has sold a million in his first week which is to be applauded in todays industry, whether u like him or not, like his music or not,

mello1

30-06-2008, 07:19 PM

Nice to know a million copies can still be sold.

mike can surley do 5 million at least imo

not heard any of lil waynes stuff so i cant comment on that.

Unfortunately, the quality of music is not an indicator of success.

Corporation whore radio airplay is and it's up to them whether you are IN or OUT.<_<

troubleman84

30-06-2008, 07:34 PM

Unfortunately, the quality of music is not an indicator or success.

Corporation whore radio airplay is and it's up to them whether you are IN or OUT.<_<

Also, "Lollipop" is like played everywhere, lol. So of course that helps in how an album is released and how the record company can get people to buy it. I would say controversy, word of mouth and mixtapes are another indicator and also, if it's not seen negative, maybe just maybe some copies were bought by his record company, it can happen.

SIDEWALK

30-06-2008, 08:57 PM

dangerous_88

01-07-2008, 12:10 AM

I disagree with you.

SIDEWALK

01-07-2008, 06:17 AM

I disagree with you.

he's sold a million in a week, how can you disagree with that? it's fact.

dangerous_88

01-07-2008, 11:21 AM

I disagree with the fact that that is something essential.

There are a lot of fantastic bands/artists who don't sell as much at all.

It's the music that counts. That's all I am pointing out.

IMO, I don't give a damn about how many copies are sold. People follow trends like sheep. Especially naive teenagers, most of which know Michael as "just a freak" and think that it's so damn cool to go clubbing and sing "LICK MY BODY LIKE A LOLLIPOP" .

That's right kids, go ahead, listen to that kind of stuff at 10,11,12 - and then blame Michael Jackson , R.Kelly and the rest of good artists for being included in pedophilia.

BULLSHIT!

Bee

01-07-2008, 03:03 PM

That's right kids, go ahead, listen to that kind of stuff at 10,11,12 - and then blame Michael Jackson , R.Kelly and the rest of good artists for being included in pedophilia.

On point. These teens today are messed up anyway. Listening to trash music that has no MEANING. Where are the songs with meanings? It is not being played on the radio. Lil Wayne is being played on the radio. Rihanna's terrible music (with the expection of Umbella) is being played on the radio. There are no more real R&B singers, no more real music groups anymore. Just a bunch of trash about the same nonsense: sex, whores, money, drugs. No one today's youth is a hot ass mess.

DuranDuran

01-07-2008, 04:21 PM

On point. These teens today are messed up anyway. Listening to trash music that has no MEANING. Where are the songs with meanings? It is not being played on the radio. Lil Wayne is being played on the radio. Rihanna's terrible music (with the expection of Umbella) is being played on the radio. There are no more real R&B singers, no more real music groups anymore. Just a bunch of trash about the same nonsense: sex, whores, money, drugs. No one today's youth is a hot ass mess.

Old music was about sex, violence, & drugs like Leadbelly, John Lee Hooker, Marvin Gaye, Led Zepplin, Rolling Stones, The Shangri La's, Van Halen, Barry White, Jefferson Airplane, Millie Jackson, Beatles, Elvis, etc. The subject matter isn't that much different, it just wasn't any profanity, and the people had more talent.

dangerous_88

01-07-2008, 07:41 PM

yeah but it was subtle.

MJ sings about sex as well but in a hidden way, which is better than I wanna eff u !

michaelsson

02-07-2008, 01:07 PM

is this the same person that told you most of Beyonce's solo songs were unreleased Destiny's Child songs????

yep lmmfao...great guess

Bee

02-07-2008, 02:52 PM

dangerous_88

02-07-2008, 09:10 PM

God speaking of Duran Duran, one word - SELLOUTS!

MoOnWaLk4MeBaBy

02-07-2008, 09:39 PM

dangerous_88, you have really valid points. I agree!

dangerous_88

03-07-2008, 12:50 AM

thank you.
It's just that I am so damn sick of this twisted world. It's going nowhere!

What's with the times when REAL music and HUMAN VALUES were respected? And that's why Michael is present in every aspect of my life. I look upon the world around me and I see something missing.

I might be getting old after all , turning 20 in September lol , but one thing is for sure - MUSIC IS DYING. SLOWLY BUT SURELY.

At least urban music if nothing else.

browneyedgirl

03-07-2008, 01:13 AM

MJ sings about sex as well but in a hidden way, which is better than I wanna eff u !
... Eh, well, he was willing to work with Akon who had a hit single called "I Wanna F*ck You"
I'm not disagreeing with you nor am I taking a shot at Michael. Point being, Mike works with whoever is hot at the moment and I don't blame him for working with Akon... his stuff sells.

People may not like rap videos... the girls, the cars, the money... it's cliche now, but it sells. Sex sells. These rappers have a wife a kids, but it doesn't seem like it. And it doesn't matter b/c their music/videos make money... that's all that matters at the end of the day to music executives and the artist. A couple decades ago, you couldn't get away with a song titled "I Wanna F*ck You", nonetheless it being a hit single. Mainstream music is taking a downward spiral. But I'm sure Michael's new album will be like a breath of fresh air. :D

paulik21

03-07-2008, 01:47 AM

good for him

dangerous_88

03-07-2008, 09:08 AM

Yeah, but still I highly doubt that Michael would be a part of the I wanna **** you song. And I hope that Michael's new album doesn't have AKON all over it, but MICHAEL.

Like Hard Candy has TIMBALAND AND PHARELL written all over it... Sorry Madonna fans.

Chaos

03-07-2008, 03:36 PM

wow I heard one of the songs, what a horrific piece of crap that was.....

lilsusie

03-07-2008, 04:01 PM

^^^ yes. pc of poo.
i hear no music i hear only noise, but it's called a song. what an insult to music!
sigh..

memyselfni

03-07-2008, 07:55 PM

arXter

03-07-2008, 08:01 PM

why are people mad that lil wayne has fans who actually decided to go out and buy his album? doesn't make sense.....
i think folk just feel pity more than anything (expressed through illogical anger) at the state of the business, and especially at hip-hop (pop) these days. just a superiority thing. i know i do.

i think it's blokes like him the reason why you get more and more muppets calling Jay-Z a genius.

dangerous_88

03-07-2008, 08:15 PM

why are people mad that lil wayne has fans who actually decided to go out and buy his album? doesn't make sense.....:no:wayne knew to keep pumping out mixtapes (free music to his fans) making his album highly anticipated....

Because real artists can't get any publicity ! Simple as that!
I can count 50 good artists that aren't selling at all that well which is for shame cuz it's stupid brainwashed teenagers who judge what is "good music" today!

memyselfni

04-07-2008, 10:40 AM

Because real artists can't get any publicity ! Simple as that!
I can count 50 good artists that aren't selling at all that well which is for shame cuz it's stupid brainwashed teenagers who judge what is "good music" today!

thats not lil waynes fault. those 50 good artist can only fault their fans who are not buying their music...wayne has impressed his fans and has given them alot of free music..so they pay him back by buying 1 million copies of his album the 1st week....so those teenagers are not brainwashed...just cause you like those 'good' artist that you mentioned...doesnt mean the teens who like wayne should also like them....

dangerous_88

04-07-2008, 11:16 AM

well if LIL WAYNE is considered "GOOD MUSIC" by someone,then sorry if I am narrow-minded as to not have an idea HOW that can be good music.

And it's not about fans - I mean, honestly , tell me how many of those million fans that bought it know any other song of his but "lollipop" ?

It's about publicity. The media is all about sex now, and those good artists don't have fans becuase their music gets NO PROMOTION at all.

Silouette

04-07-2008, 05:03 PM

many people like wayne's voice....
cause they say its different from others...

Yeah, but lately he's been sounding like he's about to have a nervous breakdown!
But hey, I aint gave up on him. Looking forward to The Carter IV.

mistermaxxx

04-07-2008, 05:24 PM

with the buying public you never know who is gonna move folks. it's all about who folks are feeling. it's all subjective as with anything.

browneyedgirl

04-07-2008, 05:28 PM

What Lil Wayne's take on this is:

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Wow, he's on the happy stuff. "Shout out to the bookdrive"

arXter

04-07-2008, 05:37 PM

http://i32.tinypic.com/2mwf3hw.jpg

mello1

04-07-2008, 07:44 PM

thats not lil waynes fault. those 50 good artist can only fault their fans who are not buying their music...wayne has impressed his fans and has given them alot of free music..so they pay him back by buying 1 million copies of his album the 1st week....so those teenagers are not brainwashed...just cause you like those 'good' artist that you mentioned...doesnt mean the teens who like wayne should also like them....
A fanbase doesn't guarantee commerical success. It's no question that the industry targets the 13-25 sector and Lil Wayne is who is popular today.

What qualifies as quality music, however will be whether or not anyone remembers this young man's music in 10 years. So he should enjoy his success of today and manage his money well.

DuranDuran

04-07-2008, 08:45 PM

A fanbase doesn't guarantee commerical success.
True, The Rolling Stones are one of the biggest touring acts today, but not many of their audience purchases their new material.

MoOnWaLk4MeBaBy

05-07-2008, 06:52 AM

What Lil Wayne's take on this is:

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Wow, he's on the happy stuff. "Shout out to the bookdrive"
He scares me, lol.

Superstition

05-07-2008, 09:00 AM

Old music was about sex, violence, & drugs like Leadbelly, John Lee Hooker, Marvin Gaye, Led Zepplin, Rolling Stones, The Shangri La's, Van Halen, Barry White, Jefferson Airplane, Millie Jackson, Beatles, Elvis, etc. The subject matter isn't that much different, it just wasn't any profanity, and the people had more talent.

While this may be true, I'm going to have to toss my name into the hat with people who think that "I wanna rock with you (all night)" is a little more pleasing to the ears than "I wanna f* you".

I'm still going to give props to Wayne though. While I agree that album sales don't mean much in the long run and all that jazz, I still think one million sales in a week is something to be complimented on.

I'm going to say though, after seeing Stevie Wonder in Chicago and how people talk about it being a near-religious experience, I can say that for people who like artists who young people may not be into or who may not sell tens of millions of albums anymore, it doesn't matter. These guys are going to be rocking out to their tunes until they die and so will fans from generation to generation. Crap music that sells today and not tomorrow, not so much.

DuranDuran

05-07-2008, 11:47 AM

While this may be true, I'm going to have to toss my name into the hat with people who think that "I wanna rock with you (all night)" is a little more pleasing to the ears than "I wanna f* you".
I take it you've never heard a Millie Jackson record, lol. My folks played her music. Most of her stuff was out in the 1970s. Or Prince songs like "Let's Pretend We're Married" or "Sexy MF". Johnny Cash & John Lee Hooker have plenty of violent songs, or "Hey Joe" by Jimi Hendrix and "Maxwell's Silver Hammer" from the Beatles are as well.

Superstition

05-07-2008, 08:39 PM

Well, I never said some racy stuff didn't exist before. But that stuff was definitely the exception at the time, not the standard, unlike today.

FinalEyes

06-07-2008, 02:00 AM

It's laughable, that's what it is. It's a shame that so many people have sh***y tastes in music.

dangerous_88

06-07-2008, 12:46 PM

exactly...

DamitaMo

06-07-2008, 03:59 PM

i really need to stop listening to my ipod and turn on the radio cuz i have no idea who lil' wayne is

dangerous_88

06-07-2008, 06:21 PM

no you don't.

TillitsGone

07-07-2008, 02:59 AM

You all out on this dangerous :lol: But I agree, Lil Wayne is so overrated, which is funny that I say that, cuz with all the other peps my age 'round me who love this dude, I'm :rolleyes:

KOPV

08-07-2008, 11:46 PM

well to be honest, I think it sold well because it does sound a lil different..

yall can hate all you want but it sounds different than the same re-generated sound that most producers keep pushing out..

His single is one of the only rap songs out right now that I leave on when it comes on the radio.. and that's sad because I've been a fan of hip-hop for a long time.

arXter

09-07-2008, 12:08 AM

well to be honest, I think it sold well because it does sound a lil different..
emphasis on 'lil'.

it'll be interesting to come back to this thread in a month's time and see the progress.

KOPV

09-07-2008, 12:43 AM

^ Well I don't think it will have a suprizing number..

it's just SADLY music is so simular that when ppl get something just BIT different they rush to it..

Just imagine how an MJ salbum will drive people crazy.. I cant wait for that first weeks sales to come in..

taimeka16

09-07-2008, 09:06 PM

Him and t-pain.Those are the 2 rappers that work my nerve.

PopPrince89

09-07-2008, 11:54 PM

It's laughable, that's what it is. It's a shame that so many people have sh***y tastes in music.

when u think about it, who is really to say what people's tastes in music should be or what is calssified as shitty music. Music is music..of course some music is less respected than others, maybe like Hannah Montana/Mile Cyrus or other pop acts, but for their fans, it really comes down to what they like. If a million people like to listen to Lil Wayne regardless of how he might be compared to other music, then thats their judgment and their own likes. Dont knock ppl for liking certain music and callin it having "shitty taste." Music is expression of the artist whether it seeks to touch ppl or just make money. Its all about what the fan likes to hear. Who are you or anyone one else to say what is legit or non legit music???

memyselfni

10-07-2008, 12:59 AM

when u think about it, who is really to say what people's tastes in music should be or what is calssified as shitty music. Music is music..of course some music is less respected than others, maybe like Hannah Montana/Mile Cyrus or other pop acts, but for their fans, it really comes down to what they like. If a million people like to listen to Lil Wayne regardless of how he might be compared to other music, then thats their judgment and their own likes. Dont knock ppl for liking certain music and callin it having "shitty taste." Music is expression of the artist whether it seeks to touch ppl or just make money. Its all about what the fan likes to hear. Who are you or anyone one else to say what is legit or non legit music???

:clapping:
co-****ing-sign............

memyselfni

10-07-2008, 01:01 AM

i really need to stop listening to my ipod and turn on the radio cuz i have no idea who lil' wayne is

thats odd u live in the UK and don't know who he is? he stay over their doing many shows and from the look of his many youtube videos his fan base over there is huge judging from the size of his audience at his shows.

arXter

10-07-2008, 09:27 AM

thats odd u live in the UK and don't know who he is? he stay over their doing many shows and from the look of his many youtube videos his fan base over there is huge judging from the size of his audience at his shows.
no thanks, we have taste http://www.bbc.co.uk/dnaimages/boards/images/f_biggrin.gif. unfortunately, we also go to as many gigs our student debt can handle.

When Lil Wayne couldn't handle London

Alex Marshall
Guardian
March 17, 2008 3:45 PM

You couldn't help but feel sorry for Lil Wayne (http://www.myspace.com/lilwayne), even when he was being booed off stage after only 10 minutes. The 25-year-old from New Orleans - real name Dwayne Michael Carter Jr - is the hottest rapper in the States right now, with a critical reputation that verges on the ridiculous. The New York Times described a show he gave in Newark last month as "positively historic (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/26/arts/)", language that august paper normally reserves for political coups.

But over here, he seems to have a status barely higher than a pub band. His three-date UK tour to promote the forthcoming Carter III album had previously taken in the delights of Watford's Area nightclub (http://www.neverstandstill.com/area) and Newmarket's Innocence (http://www.virtualinnocence.co.uk/) - the latter of which prides itself on offering "world class entertainment at local prices" and "the chance to see Oasis and the Killers...through their tribute counterparts (http://www.thefillersmusic.com/)" . For a man who boasts he's the greatest rapper alive, you can't help feeling the UK's given him the wrong reception.

http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/music/2008/03/when_lil_wayne_couldnt_handle_london.html

but in all seriousness,,, like his predecessor, 50p, he will undoubtedly blow up in the Western continents as a result of his fame in America, but time will judge his true impact on music.

Music is music..of course some music is less respected than others
co-bloody sign.

Mikejoefan

10-07-2008, 11:11 AM

dangerous 88 i feel your pain as well. what i wouldn't have done to have been alive and kicking during michael mania. *sigh* I can't stand nowaday music. But what kills me is how the youngins of today act like, like it's the best thing ever. UGH it's sicken. My sisters get on my nerve actin like nowaday music is the hottest stuff. She be calling out name of so and so and I have no clue what she's talking about. And I don't care either. She even admitted that she will like something thats new and in a few years won't like it anymore. so that tells me all I need to know. I'm sorry but cursing and music degrading women don't appeal to me at all.

I don't turn on the radio or watch MTV or BET. Period. so that helps out a lot. some of it, you can't miss but I avoid nowaday artist like the plague. oh how I have longed and thirsted for real music to make a comeback. Something that's exciting. I would take just a mere fraction of michael mania, today. Just overall goodness, ya know. I'm near death from dehydration. I'm seriously thirsty for some real music and that overall magical feeling.

To the one who experienced michael mania, stevie mania, whitney goodness back in the good ol days. All I can say is...BLESSED.

Mikejoefan

10-07-2008, 11:23 AM

I had planned to watch the BET awards cuz it's about the only award I will watch and i couldn't even watch it. Everytime I would turn on the tv to see who was on it just made me sick. I tried like 3 times turning on the tv and after about the 3rd time I couldnt. I just said bump it. I ain't watching. And then when I was thinking about it. I don't even know why I wanted to watch it since I don't like anybody that's out now. I mean I like A keys and mike biting chris is alright but honestly I wasn't gonna keep checking to see when they got on stage I don't like them that much. Plus that's what Youtube is for. But I haven't even checked them out for youtube. The only artist im into is michael. It is what it is. I like others but I don't check them out or im not INTO them. Stevie is up there for greatness but I still don't check him out. But I heart michael.

oh GOD what i wouldn't do for just 1/100 of michael mania.:(

DuranDuran

10-07-2008, 12:08 PM

I'm seriously thirsty for some real music and that overall magical feeling.
There's some classical and jazz albums out there.

Mikejoefan

10-07-2008, 12:54 PM

you mean without anyone sing on it. Just MUSIC isn't my thing.

DuranDuran

10-07-2008, 01:05 PM

you mean without anyone sing on it. Just MUSIC isn't my thing.
There's jazz singers like Nancy Wilson or Abbey Lincoln and classical singers like Cecilia Bartoli, Denyce Graves, or Plácido Domingo.

Mikejoefan

11-07-2008, 04:35 AM

ok i'll check it out. Thanks! do you know of any soulful jazz singers. Like a blend of the two. Soul singing with jazz music in the back.

TIA

dangerous_88

11-07-2008, 08:52 AM

DuranDuran

12-07-2008, 12:06 AM

ok i'll check it out. Thanks! do you know of any soulful jazz singers. Like a blend of the two. Soul singing with jazz music in the back.

TIA
There's Basia, who has a kinda jazzy pop/R&B sound like Sade. Nina Simone is good to check out also. Check out George Benson has a soulful voice. He does jazz, pop, R&B, swing. But since you said you don't like instrumentals, just stick with his material after 1978. The majority of his stuff before this is just instrumental music. Al Jarreau & Jonathan Butler are good also.