Did MJ Find Love In The Dark (continued)

[Safira]

Isn't it a funny take on this song? I am always looking at his music like that...an interpersonal relationship with oneself primarily.

lol you guys are just wonderful! first ashtanga with her sentimental love-talking and then Linda with her really REAAAAALLY down to earth talking.

It's almost like if you try to pretend ashtangas post was'nt there:hysterical:

[LindaC781]

Yes, the world was more enlightened with the birth of this beautiful angel. :wub::wub::wub:



ASHTANGA!! I aint ignorin you sweetheart!! Love this post!! LOL!:D

[Safira]

ASHTANGA!! I aint ignorin you sweetheart!! Love this post!! LOL!:D

oh nono! I was'nt implementing that you where litterally ignoring her, just the look of it was so funny! :lol: her post and your post together, it was just a hillerious combination! :P

[Sdeidjs]

Sounds like a song about a couple of misfits (I don't mean that in a bad way, though). :D

Edit: Just wanted to add that I've always thought it was a very beautiful song, though and I think MJ puts a lot of heart and feeling in it.

I think the song sounds more like the two of them finally found someone that is truly a reflection of thyself...

Hence...soulmate~~~

:angel:

[Ashtanga]

[quote] POST NUMBER 5000 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ashtanga my goodness .. will you quit it?

you are so cute when you say romantic things like this!
that whole sentence is just silly! I'm cracking up! [quote]
Awwwwwwwwwww Safira! I am and always will be an eternal romantic! lol! That will not ever change! :wub::wub::wub:

Wowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww, arrived in the post 5000! :wild::clapping::cheers:



[quote] lol you guys are just wonderful! Ashtanga with her first-sentimental love talking with her and then Linda REAAAAALLY really down to earth talking.
It's almost like if you try to pretend Ashtanga's post was not there [quote]
I will always be sentimental! My feelings and especially the "love" will touch when it comes to Michael Jackson, this incredible human being that I will unconditionally love and admire the rest of my life! :wub::wub::wub:



[quote] Ashtanga! I IS NOT ignorin you sweetheart! Love this post! LOL! [quote]
Thanks Linda! You're always so sweet to me. :wub::D

[Safira]

[quote = Safira; 1924672] POST NUMBER 5000 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ashtanga my goodness .. will you quit it?

you are so cute when you say romantic things like this!
that whole sentence is just silly! I'm cracking up! [/ quote]
Awwwwwwwwwww Safira! I am and always will be an eternal romantic! lol! That will not ever change! :wub::wub::wub:

Wowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww, arrived in the post 5000! :wild::clapping::cheers:



[quote = Safira; 1924674] lol you guys are just wonderful! Ashtanga with her first-sentimental love talking with her and then Linda REAAAAALLY really down to earth talking.
It's almost like if you try to pretend Ashtanga's post was not there [/ quote]
I will always be sentimental! My feelings and especially the "love" will touch when it comes to Michael Jackson, this incredible human being that I will unconditionally love and admire the rest of my life! :wub::wub::wub:



[quote = LindaC781; 1924675] Ashtanga! I IS NOT ignorin you sweetheart! Love this post! LOL! [/ Quote] Thanks Linda! You're always so sweet to me. :wub::D

:smilerolleyes: you're messy.. (or the post IS a mess :lol:) :hug:

[Ashtanga]

I think the song sounds more like the two of them finally found someone that is truly a reflection of thyself...

Hence...soulmate~~~

:angel:
:wub::wub::wub: That is true!!!!

[LindaC781]

I think the song sounds more like the two of them finally found someone that is truly a reflection of thyself...

Hence...soulmate~~~

:angel:
I think the opposite, Susie. I think that life sometimes is a long struggle with oneself....for some. Life can be hard for someone who doesn't like him/herself for some really odd reason or another. When you finally grow to accept yourself and love yourself for all of your flaws and your beauty, it is like "two finding one". It is then that you truly "find yourself" and love yourself for the truly unique individual that you are. And that, folks, is the absolute purely beautiful love there is...

[Ashtanga]

:smilerolleyes: you're messy.. (or the post IS a mess :lol:) :hug:
That's what Michael does with me: it leaves me confused and everything becomes a big mess! That's what love is! lol! :bugeyed:wild::wub::wub:

*Michael you are the culprit for all this mess and confusion! lol! But I love you anyway! lol! :wub::wub::wub:

[Ashtanga]

I think the opposite, Susie. I think that life sometimes is a long struggle with oneself....for some. Life can be hard for someone who doesn't like him/herself for some really odd reason or another. When you finally grow to accept yourself and love yourself for all of your flaws and your beauty, it is like "two finding one". It is then that you truly "find yourself" and love yourself for the truly unique individual that you are. And that, folks, is the absolute purely beautiful love there is...
:bugeyed:bugeyed:bugeyed:wild::wild::wild:

Linda, now you destroyed! :yes: Congratulations girl! :clapping:

[Safira]

That's what Michael does with me: it leaves me confused and everything becomes a big mess! That's what love is! lol! :bugeyed:wild::wub::wub:

*Michael you are the culprit for all this mess and confusion! lol! But I love you anyway! lol! :wub::wub::wub:

:sigh: sweet little ashtanga :P
I think we all love Michael Jackson :yes: do you love him more maybe? :giggle:

Have you noticed my new signature?
It's for Michael.. but also for everyone else in my life!

[LindaC781]

Laugh at me all you want...I always look at stuff like this. Probably cause it was such a struggle for myself growing up...

[Ashtanga]

:sigh: sweet little ashtanga :P
I think we all love Michael Jackson :yes: do you love him more maybe? :giggle:

Have you noticed my new signature?
It's for Michael.. but also for everyone else in my life!


I love him more? I do not know... it is difficult to answer! lol! I could say that my love for him as artist and human being is infinite and eternal. :wub:


I like their signature. I'm sure Michael would love and would agree with everything that is written in it, that is exactly when it touches our hearts. :yes:

*Love is in the air Safira! lol! I am so that the "Valentine's Day" is coming. Here in Brazil celebrated on 12 June. :)

[Safira]

Laugh at me all you want...I always look at stuff like this. Probably cause it was such a struggle for myself growing up...

I'm sorry if I upset you now. I only laughed because I think you both are lovely persons!

oh I understand where you're comming from! I was bullied throughout my schooltime and I have STILL not found peace with myself because of that. Probably never will..

I would never NEVER laugh "at" someone. Because I know how that hurts. And I don't want to put my worst enemy though that..





I love him more? I do not know... it is difficult to answer! lol! I could say that my love for him as artist and human being is infinite and eternal. :wub:




I like their signature. I'm sure Michael would love and would agree with everything that is written in it, that is exactly when it touches our hearts. :yes:



*Love is in the air Safira! lol! I am so that the "Valentine's Day" is coming. Here in Brazil celebrated on 12 June. :)

Well then I hope someone special would like to be your valantine this year :hug:
Thanks I'm glad that you like my signature!

[Sdeidjs]

I think the opposite, Susie. I think that life sometimes is a long struggle with oneself....for some. Life can be hard for someone who doesn't like him/herself for some really odd reason or another. When you finally grow to accept yourself and love yourself for all of your flaws and your beauty, it is like "two finding one". It is then that you truly "find yourself" and love yourself for the truly unique individual that you are. And that, folks, is the absolute purely beautiful love there is...

Intriguing way of looking at it...

:angel:

[Ashtanga]

Well then I hope someone special would like to be your valantine this year :hug:



I think not Safira... :(

[LindaC781]

I'm sorry if I upset you now. I only laughed because I think you both are lovely persons!

oh I understand where you're comming from! I was bullied throughout my schooltime and I have STILL not found peace with myself because of that. Probably never will..

I would never NEVER laugh "at" someone. Because I know how that hurts. And I don't want to put my worst enemy though that..




Well then I hope someone special would like to be your valantine this year :hug:
Thanks I'm glad that you like my signature!

Oh Safira - I didn't want to make this morose...I just stated this cause I look at some songs like this...introspectively...

Yeah, it was tough growing up - but I am the stronger person for it!! Love ya! :wub:

[Safira]

Oh Safira - I didn't want to make this morose...I just stated this cause I look at some songs like this...introspectively...

Yeah, it was tough growing up - but I am the stronger person for it!! Love ya! :wub:

:doh: at me.. :lol:

well I agree with you because I think that many things that artists write (if it is in books, lyrics or a third thing) comes from the inside of the person. Maybe it's more or less an issue to the person, but he would'nt write it if it did'nt meen something to him at that point.

[MysteriousPhoenix]

Has the song Human Nature been analyzed yet? I find it to be one of the most mysterious songs of all. I'm particularly interested in the meaning of the chorus which I've highlighted in the lyrics which say:

If they say why, why tell 'em that it's human nature.
If they say why, why does he do me that way.
I like lovin' this way.
I like lovin' this way.

What exactly is meant by "it's human nature?" What is human nature in the song? What does "why does he do me that way" mean? And, last but not least, what is meant by "I like lovin' this way?" He likes lovin' what way???


"Human Nature"<small> Written and Composed by Steve Porcaro and John Bettis. </small>

Looking out
Across the night-time
The city winks a sleepless eye
Hear her voice
Shake my window
Sweet seducing sighs

Get me out
Into the night-time
Four walls won't hold me tonight
If this town
Is just an apple
Then let me take a bite

If they say -
Why, why, tell 'em that it's human nature
Why, why, does he do me that way
If they say -
Why, why, tell 'em that it's human nature
Why, why, does he do me that way

Reaching out
To touch a stranger
Electric eyes are ev'rywhere
See that girl
She knows I'm watching
She likes the way I stare

If they say -
Why, why, tell 'em that it's human nature
Why, why, does he do me that way
If they say -
Why, why, tell 'em that it's human nature
Why, why, does he do me that way
I like lovin' this way
I like lovin' this way (instrumental section)

Looking out
Across the morning
Where the city's heart begins to beat
Reaching out
I touch her shoulder
I'm dreaming of the street

If they say -
Why, why, tell 'em that it's human nature
Why, why, does he do me that way
If they say -
Why, why, tell 'em that it's human nature
Why, why, does he do me that way
I like lovin' this way
I like lovin' this way

[LindaC781]

Has the song Human Nature been analyzed yet? I find it to be one of the most mysterious songs of all. I'm particularly interested in the meaning of the chorus which I've highlighted in the lyrics which say:

If they say why, why tell 'em that it's human nature.
If they say why, why does he do me that way.
I like lovin' this way.
I like lovin' this way.

What exactly is meant by "it's human nature?" What is human nature in the song? What does "why does he do me that way" mean? And, last but not least, what is meant by "I like lovin' this way?" He likes lovin' what way???


"Human Nature"<small> Written and Composed by Steve Porcaro and John Bettis. </small>

Looking out
Across the night-time
The city winks a sleepless eye
Hear her voice
Shake my window
Sweet seducing sighs

Get me out
Into the night-time
Four walls won't hold me tonight
If this town
Is just an apple
Then let me take a bite

If they say -
Why, why, tell 'em that it's human nature
Why, why, does he do me that way
If they say -
Why, why, tell 'em that it's human nature
Why, why, does he do me that way

Reaching out
To touch a stranger
Electric eyes are ev'rywhere
See that girl
She knows I'm watching
She likes the way I stare

If they say -
Why, why, tell 'em that it's human nature
Why, why, does he do me that way
If they say -
Why, why, tell 'em that it's human nature
Why, why, does he do me that way
I like lovin' this way
I like lovin' this way (instrumental section)

Looking out
Across the morning
Where the city's heart begins to beat
Reaching out
I touch her shoulder
I'm dreaming of the street

If they say -
Why, why, tell 'em that it's human nature
Why, why, does he do me that way
If they say -
Why, why, tell 'em that it's human nature
Why, why, does he do me that way
I like lovin' this way
I like lovin' this way

I think what it means is that it's human nature to want to go out and taste some of the wild life....to be out in the city in the night time where the night ladies roam...that it's human nature to want to satisfy physical needs...if you get my drift...lol

[Love.him]

Good pick, MP. The part where it says "If they say why, why does he do me that way." I think refers to treatment: why does he/she treat me that way. I think the act of looking & nightlife/city life in general -- clubbing, romancing has a big part in the song because it starts off with it "Looking out/Accross the night-time" and mentions it again: "Get me out/Into the night-time/The city winks a sleepless eye" Also: "See that girl/She knows I'm watching/She likes the way I stare." It's about how men & women may interact: flirting. Also: "Reaching out/To touch a stranger/Electric eyes are ev'rywhere".

But then towards the end of the song it's like the girl becomes the city/the street; In other words his love of citylife : "Looking out/Across the morning/Where the city's heart begins to beat/Reaching out/I touch her shoulder/I'm dreaming of the street. I think the song means human nature as in how people act/interact with each other.




Has the song Human Nature been analyzed yet? I find it to be one of the most mysterious songs of all. I'm particularly interested in the meaning of the chorus which I've highlighted in the lyrics which say:

If they say why, why tell 'em that it's human nature.
If they say why, why does he do me that way.
I like lovin' this way.
I like lovin' this way.

What exactly is meant by "it's human nature?" What is human nature in the song? What does "why does he do me that way" mean? And, last but not least, what is meant by "I like lovin' this way?" He likes lovin' what way???


"Human Nature"<SMALL> Written and Composed by Steve Porcaro and John Bettis. </SMALL>

Looking out
Across the night-time
The city winks a sleepless eye
Hear her voice
Shake my window
Sweet seducing sighs

Get me out
Into the night-time
Four walls won't hold me tonight
If this town
Is just an apple
Then let me take a bite

If they say -
Why, why, tell 'em that it's human nature
Why, why, does he do me that way
If they say -
Why, why, tell 'em that it's human nature
Why, why, does he do me that way


Reaching out
To touch a stranger
Electric eyes are ev'rywhere

See that girl
She knows I'm watching
She likes the way I stare

If they say -
Why, why, tell 'em that it's human nature
Why, why, does he do me that way
If they say -
Why, why, tell 'em that it's human nature
Why, why, does he do me that way
I like lovin' this way
I like lovin' this way (instrumental section)



Looking out
Across the morning
Where the city's heart begins to beat
Reaching out
I touch her shoulder
I'm dreaming of the street

If they say -
Why, why, tell 'em that it's human nature
Why, why, does he do me that way
If they say -
Why, why, tell 'em that it's human nature
Why, why, does he do me that way
I like lovin' this way
I like lovin' this way

[Safira]

Has the song Human Nature been analyzed yet? I find it to be one of the most mysterious songs of all. I'm particularly interested in the meaning of the chorus which I've highlighted in the lyrics which say:

If they say why, why tell 'em that it's human nature.
If they say why, why does he do me that way.
I like lovin' this way.
I like lovin' this way.

What exactly is meant by "it's human nature?" What is human nature in the song? What does "why does he do me that way" mean? And, last but not least, what is meant by "I like lovin' this way?" He likes lovin' what way???


"Human Nature"<SMALL> Written and Composed by Steve Porcaro and John Bettis. </SMALL>

Looking out
Across the night-time
The city winks a sleepless eye
Hear her voice
Shake my window
Sweet seducing sighs

Get me out
Into the night-time
Four walls won't hold me tonight
If this town
Is just an apple
Then let me take a bite

If they say -
Why, why, tell 'em that it's human nature
Why, why, does he do me that way
If they say -
Why, why, tell 'em that it's human nature
Why, why, does he do me that way

Reaching out
To touch a stranger
Electric eyes are ev'rywhere
See that girl
She knows I'm watching
She likes the way I stare

If they say -
Why, why, tell 'em that it's human nature
Why, why, does he do me that way
If they say -
Why, why, tell 'em that it's human nature
Why, why, does he do me that way
I like lovin' this way
I like lovin' this way (instrumental section)

Looking out
Across the morning
Where the city's heart begins to beat
Reaching out
I touch her shoulder
I'm dreaming of the street

If they say -
Why, why, tell 'em that it's human nature
Why, why, does he do me that way
If they say -
Why, why, tell 'em that it's human nature
Why, why, does he do me that way
I like lovin' this way
I like lovin' this way

yea I've thought a lot about this song too. It's my favorite :)

Basicly when I listen to these lyrics, I hear someone who longs to be "outthere". Part of that nighttime world, that seems so important to him.
He's thinking about how it is out in the streets when it's dark, and the neon-lights are on, the beat is sounding from a club, and people are walking down the streets with their friends. This mysterious life, as it seems to him, because he has always been "in" that life but never "part" of it.

I could see him sitting in a window in his expansive penthouse somewhere, looking down at the street all night. His emotion - reliefed but also melacholic.

The night has an ability to change how we feel and look at ourselves and the rest of the world. The moonlight shines in a different way than the sunlight.

He is reliefed because when it's night, everyone is sleeping. And those not sleeping are out on the streets, in the clubs and so on.
This is the time of day where Michaels unnatural life becomes invisible. All the people that is counting on him are sleeping, all the fans, the producers, managers, paparazzies, the journalists in the tv.

And as he sits there he becomes just Michael Jackson.
A wonderfull feeling I assume, but still so hollow, because he feels so close to living his own life as he sits in that window. He touches "her" shoulder, but he still can't get "her".

He can't get that feeling of being part of this other world. This mysterious and fantastic world that is only possible to meet when it's night in the city.

It is sort of a dreamstate-song..

The last verse is really good!:
As the sun is slowly rising, his normal life aproaches again.
"the city's heart begins to beat" - a he watches cars and buisnessmen begin to appear he realizes that he's still in his good old life.
To me it seems like he feels good about getting "back" to his real life. Leaving the dream..
But still, inside him, he longs to be with that "girl". To be with her in the city in the dark.

...
I think Michael has always fancied the dark. In all sort of ways. Because of it's ability to make things invisible and mysterious, and take him away from his busy and very serious life.
I see that in both his choise of clothes, his love for "thriller" :P, and this song that expresses his longing for streets when they are dark.

And not to mention the title of this thread.

[Ashtanga]

yea I've thought a lot about this song too. It's my favorite :)

Basicly when I listen to these lyrics, I hear someone who longs to be "outthere". Part of that nighttime world, that seems so important to him.
He's thinking about how it is out in the streets when it's dark, and the neon-lights are on, the beat is sounding from a club, and people are walking down the streets with their friends. This mysterious life, as it seems to him, because he has always been "in" that life but never "part" of it.

I could see him sitting in a window in his expansive penthouse somewhere, looking down at the street all night. His emotion - reliefed but also melacholic.

The night has an ability to change how we feel and look at ourselves and the rest of the world. The moonlight shines in a different way than the sunlight.

He is reliefed because when it's night, everyone is sleeping. And those not sleeping are out on the streets, in the clubs and so on.
This is the time of day where Michaels unnatural life becomes invisible. All the people that is counting on him are sleeping, all the fans, the producers, managers, paparazzies, the journalists in the tv.

And as he sits there he becomes just Michael Jackson.
A wonderfull feeling I assume, but still so hollow, because he feels so close to living his own life as he sits in that window. He touches "her" shoulder, but he still can't get "her".

He can't get that feeling of being part of this other world. This mysterious and fantastic world that is only possible to meet when it's night in the city.

It is sort of a dreamstate-song..

The last verse is really good!:
As the sun is slowly rising, his normal life aproaches again.
"the city's heart begins to beat" - a he watches cars and buisnessmen begin to appear he realizes that he's still in his good old life.
To me it seems like he feels good about getting "back" to his real life. Leaving the dream..
But still, inside him, he longs to be with that "girl". To be with her in the city in the dark.

...
I think Michael has always fancied the dark. In all sort of ways. Because of it's ability to make things invisible and mysterious, and take him away from his busy and very serious life.
I see that in both his choise of clothes, his love for "thriller" :P, and this song that expresses his longing for streets when they are dark.

And not to mention the title of this thread.
Safira... You were so poetic in his post... I loved! :yes:

[mysterygirl7]

Reaching out
To touch a stranger
Electric eyes are ev'rywhere
See that girl
She knows I'm watching
She likes the way I stare




I like this verse, it reminds me of some of the lyrics on Invincible.. for some reason..

[MysteriousPhoenix]

... The night has an ability to change how we feel and look at ourselves and the rest of the world. The moonlight shines in a different way than the sunlight.

He is reliefed because when it's night, everyone is sleeping. And those not sleeping are out on the streets, in the clubs and so on.
This is the time of day where Michaels unnatural life becomes invisible. All the people that is counting on him are sleeping, all the fans, the producers, managers, paparazzies, the journalists in the tv.

And as he sits there he becomes just Michael Jackson.
Awonderfull feeling I assume, but still so hollow, because he feels so close to living his own life as he sits in that window. He touches "her" shoulder, but he still can't get "her".

He can't get that feeling of being part of this other world. This mysterious and fantastic world that is only possible to meet when it's night in the city.

It is sort of a dreamstate-song..

The last verse is really good!:
As the sun is slowly rising, his normal life aproaches again.
"the city's heart begins to beat" - a he watches cars and buisnessmen begin to appear he realizes that he's still in his good old life.
To me it seems like he feels good about getting "back" to his real life. Leaving the dream..
But still, inside him, he longs to be with that "girl". To be with her in the city in the dark.

...
I think Michael has always fancied the dark. In all sort of ways. Because of it's ability to make things invisible and mysterious, and take him away from his busy and very serious life.
I see that in both his choise of clothes, his love for "thriller" :P, and this song that expresses his longing for streets when they are dark.


Wow! What an insightful interpretation of this song, Safira - maybe the best one yet! I highlighted some things that really stood out to me. It also makes me wonder if this explains the lyric, "I like lovin' this way" that I had asked about before. Do you think "I like lovin' this way" means he prefers loving "in the dark" because it is "hidden" and "invisible" as you say, and therefore it feels non-threatening maybe?

[Safira]

Wow! What an insightful interpretation of this song, Safira - maybe the best one yet! I highlighted some things that really stood out to me. It also makes me wonder if this explains the lyric, "I like lovin' this way" that I had asked about before. Do you think "I like lovin' this way" means he prefers loving "in the dark" because it is "hidden" and "invisible" as you say, and therefore it feels non-threatening maybe?

Thank you - I'm blushing now that someone think that I made an insightfull interpretation :blush:

That "I like lovin this way" thing has been buggin' me too..
Well as you say - it might be that he likes to "loving" in the dark.
That would be very normal, - many people prefferes that!

You know what.. I think I just solved it!:

Michael likes to keep his love in the dark. Everything in his life is so accesible for everyone, but love - true love, is very privat, very personal. You don't want to hear peoples openions about your love. You don't want their eyes on your love.

I think Michael wants to keep this one part of his life totally private. Keep it like a secret. His one little gem that noone knows about.

Untill now I have been very sceptical about this "love in the darkness" of Michaels, but suddenly I think it's not impossible!

I think for Michael it might be satisfying to have this love in his heart. To know that this is where they keep eachother, and noone else knows about that. Because of that. That they only have eachother in their hearts. And nowhere else in their lives.
That would make a very special and strong love.

[MysteriousPhoenix]

^ Awww ... :wub: :)

[Dri]

I was out for few weeks and when I return...wowwww!!!
Amazing posts here guys!Thanks!

[Safira]

^ Awww ... :wub: :)

:giggle::smilerolleyes:

[Ashtanga]

I was out for few weeks and when I return...wowwww!!!
Amazing posts here guys!Thanks!
Driiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii, muitas saudades de vc!!!! que bom vê-la de volta por aqui!!! :D

[AllForMJ]

I'm glad the bad choice that, that person made did not cause the genuine nice people in this thread to become afraid of enjoying each other's company. It would have been a very sad thing to see happen. It would have been as if the nice people here were thinking, "That person is no good. Therefore, we must stop having fun with each other" and what purpose would that have served?

That person's actions has caused them to get the type of attention that they do not want. Does it mean that those that have been talking to each other in this thread in a sincere and kind way are no longer nice people? No, it doesn't. Does it mean that we all should no longer talk about the type of things that we like to talk about as far as love, romance, spirituality and Michael's music? No, it doesn't.

There is nothing wrong with being nice and there is nothing wrong with having genuine fun. There is nothing wrong with being caring. So, don't change for that person. That person's choice got them band and they are also in hot water. You all that are genuine nice people are still here.

Also, this thread is not titled, "How can a person pretend to be Michael Jackson and get in trouble for it?" It is titled, "Did MJ Find Love In The Dark? (continued)." This thread is about the real Michael Jackson. The real Michael has gone from releasing love songs in 2001 that were filled with hopes of finding love, trying to hold on to love and disappointment in relationships, to releasing love songs about him now being in love. He was singing about being in love back during the trial. That imposter cannot change that. MJ has already recorded the songs for all to hear. The songs are already on CD.

If anyone reading this thread has been wondering in the back of their mind if I have truly met Michael, this is to show you that I did indeed meet him during the "Off The Wall" era when I was 16 years old. It was during the MJJForum days that I first mentioned it to the members that are now here at MJJCommunity. The below is what I had said after MJJF became MJJC.

AllForMJ
22-01-2008, 06:57 PM #548


One last thing, remember I described to you guys what he was wearing that day? I told you he was wearing black pants, a black pull-over turtle neck shirt, black boots that came to his ankles that zipped up, and a brown vest that was satin in the back and tapestry in the front. He had just gotten his jeri curl that year. If you want to see the shirt I was talking about, he's wearing it on page 91 of the December 2007 issue of Ebony magazine. He's also wearing the shoe string around his neck that I told you guys about. He's wearing that exact same shoe string on the picture that was given to me. The way he looks on page 91 is exactly the way he looked when I was sitting in front of him slowly looking at him from head to toe, and from toe to head while he was acting all shy. If he didn't want me doing that, he could have told someone to come and get me. But he didn't.

Notice that the above excerpt is dated January 22, 2008. It took me a month to realize that MJ had the shoestring around his neck in the picture that's on page 91 of Ebony. lol And, if you click on the below link and look at the video that mj_brainiac uploaded to Youtube in July 2009, which was a year and a half later, you will see that MJ is wearing the clothes that I described from memory. Because I did it solely from memory, and had met MJ so long ago, I got the color of his pants mixed up with the color of the back of his vest. But it's all good. To remember the color of his clothes that far back in time ain't too bad! lol The color of his pants went with the brown that was in his vest. The front of his vest was made of tapestry as you will see in the video. When MJ stands up at the end of mj_brainiac's video, you will see that the back of MJ's vest was indeed made of satin.

07-04-2009, 07:36 AM #49
mj_brainiac

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TB1gOyvGfJk

If some that are reading this thread are wondering if I am pretending to be a spiritual-minded person, here are some examples to show you that I am not pretending.

This is from February 2005. It is about God's existence and Him defending MJ.

AllForMJ
14-02-2005, 04:50 PM #2914

http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showthread.php?p=333510

This is from February 2004.

AllForMJ
20-08-2004, 05:46 PM #6
http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showthread.php?p=131402


This is from January 2005.

AllForMJ
05-01-2005, 06:16 PM #90
http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showthread.php?p=277548


This post is about the verdict. It is from February 2005.

AllForMJ
02-06-2005, 06:33 PM #286
http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showthread.php?p=458717


This August 2004 post is about MJ seeming like a baby that's walking for the first time.

AllForMJ
Aug 8 2004, 05:22 PM
http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showthread.php?p=118191


Now, listen to the question that he was asked around 2:07 into this video of his October 2006 television interview with Access Hollywood. Also, notice how the video starts with the verdict. And about the last thing that I said in the above August 8, 2004 post, it is still relevant today. How old is MJ right now?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znMwk3T9YQY


About MJ's spirituality...the answer he provided below to a question that he was asked in October 2001, shows he is also a very spiritual person.

"Mr. Jackson, what would you say to all your fans that have dreams and goals of being a star like you?"

Michael: No matter what, the most powerful thing in the world is the human mind and prayer, and belief in yourself and confidence and perseverance. No matter how many times you do it, you do it again until it's right. And always believe in yourself. And no matter who's around you that's being negative or thrusting negative energy at you, totally block it off. Because whatever you believe, you become.

And, if some reading this thread are still wondering if there really are times when MJ records songs that end up being prophetic, here is an example to show you that it does sometimes happen. It doesn't mean that he's trying to cause to happen, sometimes it just happens on its own. When he recorded this song, he was too young to know that it would apply to him as a man later on.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZfaAtFcITo&feature=related

One last prediction to end this post. This one is about MJ's concerts. This prediction that has come to pass is starting off in one part of the world and will happen in the U.S. when the momentum picks up.

AllForMJ
01-06-2008, 08:57 PM #233


MJ is still huge here at home. Because he has not toured here in a very long time, if he does announce that he is going to launch a tour, the companies that sell tickets are going to become overwhelmed by the number of people that want to see him. Seeing his name outside of concert venues is going to cause the public to become amped up.

Imagine driving past an arena or stadium in the U.S. and seeing the words, "Michael Jackson Coming Soon" up in lights outside of the building. Do you know what it's going to be like to see that?

He is going to sell out everywhere he goes. It is going to be a historic event. It's going be crazy!! Not only are the fans going to come out in full force to see him in concert, but people that are not die hard fans at all are going to come out as well.

The most famous man in the world is a chart-topping recording artist. He hasn't toured his home land in years. It is going to be hard for the public to resist coming out to see him. They know and love all of his songs. They know and love all of his videos. He has been apart of many people's lives.

Concert attendance is not going to be an issue at all. Not at all. Once it becomes clear that he's ready to crank this baby up, the sponsors are going to be right there. So far, he's been making all the right steps and things have been going very well.

Watch what happens once the momentum picks up...

God is good. He does answer prayer when you truly believe in Him, and He has been helping Michael Jackson because Michael was being unfairly mistreated after spending the majority of his life bringing joy to others worldwide.

And in closing, just got to mention that although I do often look at things from a spiritual angle, there are times when I also act goofy. I like to laugh ya'll, because hey, that's just me! Gotta laugh too, ya know? This world is such a mess that if we don't find reasons to laugh sometimes, we will spend the majority of our lives crying and I don't feel like doing that. That's not fun! LOL Plus, laughing doesn't take away from my spirituality. It's mine from God just like laughing is. Also, having a relationship with God makes life easier to live.

:D

[you_rock_my_world]

reading ur post got me into tears.

thanks for sharing that with us. i would give u flowers but i dont have my emoticons anymore they disapeared i can only give u a smile from memory :)



I'm glad the bad choice that, that person made did not cause the genuine nice people in this thread to become afraid of enjoying each other's company. It would have been a very sad thing to see happen. It would have been as if the nice people here were thinking, "That person is no good. Therefore, we must stop having fun with each other" and what purpose would that have served?

That person's actions has caused them to get the type of attention that they do not want. Does it mean that those that have been talking to each other in this thread in a sincere and kind way are no longer nice people? No, it doesn't. Does it mean that we all should no longer talk about the type of things that we like to talk about as far as love, romance, spirituality and Michael's music? No, it doesn't.

There is nothing wrong with being nice and there is nothing wrong with having genuine fun. There is nothing wrong with being caring. So, don't change for that person. That person's choice got them band and they are also in hot water. You all that are genuine nice people are still here.

Also, this thread is not titled, "How can a person pretend to be Michael Jackson and get in trouble for it?" It is titled, "Did MJ Find Love In The Dark? (continued)." This thread is about the real Michael Jackson. The real Michael has gone from releasing love songs in 2001 that were filled with hopes of finding love, trying to hold on to love and disappointment in relationships, to releasing love songs about him now being in love. He was singing about being in love back during the trial. That imposter cannot change that. MJ has already recorded the songs for all to hear. The songs are already on CD.

If anyone reading this thread has been wondering in the back of their mind if I have truly met Michael, this is to show you that I did indeed meet him during the "Off The Wall" era when I was 16 years old. It was during the MJJForum days that I first mentioned it to the members that are now here at MJJCommunity. The below is what I had said after MJJF became MJJC.

AllForMJ
22-01-2008, 06:57 PM #548



Notice that the above excerpt is dated January 22, 2008. It took me a month to realize that MJ had the shoestring around his neck in the picture that's on page 91 of Ebony. lol And, if you click on the below link and look at the video that mj_brainiac uploaded to Youtube in July 2009, which was a year and a half later, you will see that MJ is wearing the clothes that I described from memory. Because I did it solely from memory, and had met MJ so long ago, I got the color of his pants mixed up with the color of the back of his vest. But it's all good. To remember the color of his clothes that far back in time ain't too bad! lol The color of his pants went with the brown that was in his vest. The front of his vest was made of tapestry as you will see in the video. When MJ stands up at the end of mj_brainiac's video, you will see that the back of MJ's vest was indeed made of satin.

07-04-2009, 07:36 AM #49
mj_brainiac

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TB1gOyvGfJk

If some that are reading this thread are wondering if I am pretending to be a spiritual-minded person, here are some examples to show you that I am not pretending.

This is from February 2005. It is about God's existence and Him defending MJ.

AllForMJ
14-02-2005, 04:50 PM #2914

http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showthread.php?p=333510

This is from February 2004.

AllForMJ
20-08-2004, 05:46 PM #6
http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showthread.php?p=131402


This is from January 2005.

AllForMJ
05-01-2005, 06:16 PM #90
http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showthread.php?p=277548


This post is about the verdict. It is from February 2005.

AllForMJ
02-06-2005, 06:33 PM #286
http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showthread.php?p=458717


This August 2004 post is about MJ seeming like a baby that's walking for the first time.

AllForMJ
Aug 8 2004, 05:22 PM
http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showthread.php?p=118191


Now, listen to the question that he was asked around 2:07 into this video of his October 2006 television interview with Access Hollywood. Also, notice how the video starts with the verdict. And about the last thing that I said in the above August 8, 2004 post, it is still relevant today. How old is MJ right now?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znMwk3T9YQY


About MJ's spirituality...the answer he provided below to a question that he was asked in October 2001, shows he is also a very spiritual person.

"Mr. Jackson, what would you say to all your fans that have dreams and goals of being a star like you?"

Michael: No matter what, the most powerful thing in the world is the human mind and prayer, and belief in yourself and confidence and perseverance. No matter how many times you do it, you do it again until it's right. And always believe in yourself. And no matter who's around you that's being negative or thrusting negative energy at you, totally block it off. Because whatever you believe, you become.

And, if some reading this thread are still wondering if there really are times when MJ records songs that end up being prophetic, here is an example to show you that it does sometimes happen. It doesn't mean that he's trying to cause to happen, sometimes it just happens on its own. When he recorded this song, he was too young to know that it would apply to him as a man later on.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZfaAtFcITo&feature=related

One last prediction to end this post. This one is about MJ's concerts. This prediction that has come to pass is starting off in one part of the world and will happen in the U.S. when the momentum picks up.

AllForMJ
01-06-2008, 08:57 PM #233



God is good. He does answer prayer when you truly believe in Him, and He has been helping Michael Jackson because Michael was being unfairly mistreated after spending the majority of his life bringing joy to others worldwide.

And in closing, just got to mention that although I do often look at things from a spiritual angle, there are times when I also act goofy. I like to laugh ya'll, because hey, that's just me! Gotta laugh too, ya know? This world is such a mess that if we don't find reasons to laugh sometimes, we will spend the majority of our lives crying and I don't feel like doing that. That's not fun! LOL Plus, laughing doesn't take away from my spirituality. It's mine from God just like laughing is. Also, having a relationship with God makes life easier to live.

:D

[Safira]

I'm glad the bad choice that, that person made did not cause the genuine nice people in this thread to become afraid of enjoying each other's company. It would have been a very sad thing to see happen. It would have been as if the nice people here were thinking, "That person is no good. Therefore, we must stop having fun with each other" and what purpose would that have served?

That person's actions has caused them to get the type of attention that they do not want. Does it mean that those that have been talking to each other in this thread in a sincere and kind way are no longer nice people? No, it doesn't. Does it mean that we all should no longer talk about the type of things that we like to talk about as far as love, romance, spirituality and Michael's music? No, it doesn't.

There is nothing wrong with being nice and there is nothing wrong with having genuine fun. There is nothing wrong with being caring. So, don't change for that person. That person's choice got them band and they are also in hot water. You all that are genuine nice people are still here.

Also, this thread is not titled, "How can a person pretend to be Michael Jackson and get in trouble for it?" It is titled, "Did MJ Find Love In The Dark? (continued)." This thread is about the real Michael Jackson. The real Michael has gone from releasing love songs in 2001 that were filled with hopes of finding love, trying to hold on to love and disappointment in relationships, to releasing love songs about him now being in love. He was singing about being in love back during the trial. That imposter cannot change that. MJ has already recorded the songs for all to hear. The songs are already on CD.

If anyone reading this thread has been wondering in the back of their mind if I have truly met Michael, this is to show you that I did indeed meet him during the "Off The Wall" era when I was 16 years old. It was during the MJJForum days that I first mentioned it to the members that are now here at MJJCommunity. The below is what I had said after MJJF became MJJC.

AllForMJ
22-01-2008, 06:57 PM #548



Notice that the above excerpt is dated January 22, 2008. It took me a month to realize that MJ had the shoestring around his neck in the picture that's on page 91 of Ebony. lol And, if you click on the below link and look at the video that mj_brainiac uploaded to Youtube in July 2009, which was a year and a half later, you will see that MJ is wearing the clothes that I described from memory. Because I did it solely from memory, and had met MJ so long ago, I got the color of his pants mixed up with the color of the back of his vest. But it's all good. To remember the color of his clothes that far back in time ain't too bad! lol The color of his pants went with the brown that was in his vest. The front of his vest was made of tapestry as you will see in the video. When MJ stands up at the end of mj_brainiac's video, you will see that the back of MJ's vest was indeed made of satin.

07-04-2009, 07:36 AM #49
mj_brainiac

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TB1gOyvGfJk

If some that are reading this thread are wondering if I am pretending to be a spiritual-minded person, here are some examples to show you that I am not pretending.

This is from February 2005. It is about God's existence and Him defending MJ.

AllForMJ
14-02-2005, 04:50 PM #2914

http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showthread.php?p=333510

This is from February 2004.

AllForMJ
20-08-2004, 05:46 PM #6
http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showthread.php?p=131402


This is from January 2005.

AllForMJ
05-01-2005, 06:16 PM #90
http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showthread.php?p=277548


This post is about the verdict. It is from February 2005.

AllForMJ
02-06-2005, 06:33 PM #286
http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showthread.php?p=458717


This August 2004 post is about MJ seeming like a baby that's walking for the first time.

AllForMJ
Aug 8 2004, 05:22 PM
http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showthread.php?p=118191


Now, listen to the question that he was asked around 2:07 into this video of his October 2006 television interview with Access Hollywood. Also, notice how the video starts with the verdict. And about the last thing that I said in the above August 8, 2004 post, it is still relevant today. How old is MJ right now?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znMwk3T9YQY


About MJ's spirituality...the answer he provided below to a question that he was asked in October 2001, shows he is also a very spiritual person.

"Mr. Jackson, what would you say to all your fans that have dreams and goals of being a star like you?"

Michael: No matter what, the most powerful thing in the world is the human mind and prayer, and belief in yourself and confidence and perseverance. No matter how many times you do it, you do it again until it's right. And always believe in yourself. And no matter who's around you that's being negative or thrusting negative energy at you, totally block it off. Because whatever you believe, you become.

And, if some reading this thread are still wondering if there really are times when MJ records songs that end up being prophetic, here is an example to show you that it does sometimes happen. It doesn't mean that he's trying to cause to happen, sometimes it just happens on its own. When he recorded this song, he was too young to know that it would apply to him as a man later on.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZfaAtFcITo&feature=related

One last prediction to end this post. This one is about MJ's concerts. This prediction that has come to pass is starting off in one part of the world and will happen in the U.S. when the momentum picks up.

AllForMJ
01-06-2008, 08:57 PM #233



God is good. He does answer prayer when you truly believe in Him, and He has been helping Michael Jackson because Michael was being unfairly mistreated after spending the majority of his life bringing joy to others worldwide.

And in closing, just got to mention that although I do often look at things from a spiritual angle, there are times when I also act goofy. I like to laugh ya'll, because hey, that's just me! Gotta laugh too, ya know? This world is such a mess that if we don't find reasons to laugh sometimes, we will spend the majority of our lives crying and I don't feel like doing that. That's not fun! LOL Plus, laughing doesn't take away from my spirituality. It's mine from God just like laughing is. Also, having a relationship with God makes life easier to live.

:D

brilliant post and it's so nice that you stand up for the thread and for the people that has been using it often.

I've read everything in your post but I have a hard time making a response to it, because theres so much to response to :P (I'm not good at outlining long texts I'm afraid..) but in short - really good reading as usual, I agree, and I'm amazed about the spiritual things that you mention.
:clapping::cheers:

[AllForMJ]

reading ur post got me into tears.

thanks for sharing that with us. i would give u flowers but i dont have my emoticons anymore they disapeared i can only give u a smile from memory :)
Awwwww, it made you cry? I almost cried too while I was listening to MJ singing "I've Gotta Be Me." Until just recently, I didn't know he had recorded this song. I ran across it while looking for songs on youtube to finish interpreting the songs in MimiK's list. When I first heard it, I was thinking, "Wowwww. This is so deep!"

Glad you enjoyed the post and thanks for the smile. :)


brilliant post and it's so nice that you stand up for the thread and for the people that has been using it often.

I've read everything in your post but I have a hard time making a response to it, because theres so much to response to :P (I'm not good at outlining long texts I'm afraid..) but in short - really good reading as usual, I agree, and I'm amazed about the spiritual things that you mention.
:clapping::cheers:
Thanks, Safira. Glad you enjoyed reading it. As far as standing up for this thread? :dont_mention_it: My pleasure. This thread has many spiritual people in it. That includes you.

Also, it's fun talking about MJ singing about women. He's been very open about how he feels. It's nice listening to his change in tone between 2001 and now because it shows that the hurtful days, as far as relationships go, are behind him. He's getting a fresh new start. It's in his voice. I don't hear the sound of pain in his voice now. It's gone.

:yes: :D

[LindaC781]

I'm glad the bad choice that, that person made did not cause the genuine nice people in this thread to become afraid of enjoying each other's company. It would have been a very sad thing to see happen. It would have been as if the nice people here were thinking, "That person is no good. Therefore, we must stop having fun with each other" and what purpose would that have served?

That person's actions has caused them to get the type of attention that they do not want. Does it mean that those that have been talking to each other in this thread in a sincere and kind way are no longer nice people? No, it doesn't. Does it mean that we all should no longer talk about the type of things that we like to talk about as far as love, romance, spirituality and Michael's music? No, it doesn't.

There is nothing wrong with being nice and there is nothing wrong with having genuine fun. There is nothing wrong with being caring. So, don't change for that person. That person's choice got them band and they are also in hot water. You all that are genuine nice people are still here.

Also, this thread is not titled, "How can a person pretend to be Michael Jackson and get in trouble for it?" It is titled, "Did MJ Find Love In The Dark? (continued)." This thread is about the real Michael Jackson. The real Michael has gone from releasing love songs in 2001 that were filled with hopes of finding love, trying to hold on to love and disappointment in relationships, to releasing love songs about him now being in love. He was singing about being in love back during the trial. That imposter cannot change that. MJ has already recorded the songs for all to hear. The songs are already on CD.

If anyone reading this thread has been wondering in the back of their mind if I have truly met Michael, this is to show you that I did indeed meet him during the "Off The Wall" era when I was 16 years old. It was during the MJJForum days that I first mentioned it to the members that are now here at MJJCommunity. The below is what I had said after MJJF became MJJC.

AllForMJ
22-01-2008, 06:57 PM #548



Notice that the above excerpt is dated January 22, 2008. It took me a month to realize that MJ had the shoestring around his neck in the picture that's on page 91 of Ebony. lol And, if you click on the below link and look at the video that mj_brainiac uploaded to Youtube in July 2009, which was a year and a half later, you will see that MJ is wearing the clothes that I described from memory. Because I did it solely from memory, and had met MJ so long ago, I got the color of his pants mixed up with the color of the back of his vest. But it's all good. To remember the color of his clothes that far back in time ain't too bad! lol The color of his pants went with the brown that was in his vest. The front of his vest was made of tapestry as you will see in the video. When MJ stands up at the end of mj_brainiac's video, you will see that the back of MJ's vest was indeed made of satin.

07-04-2009, 07:36 AM #49
mj_brainiac

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TB1gOyvGfJk

If some that are reading this thread are wondering if I am pretending to be a spiritual-minded person, here are some examples to show you that I am not pretending.

This is from February 2005. It is about God's existence and Him defending MJ.

AllForMJ
14-02-2005, 04:50 PM #2914

http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showthread.php?p=333510

This is from February 2004.

AllForMJ
20-08-2004, 05:46 PM #6
http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showthread.php?p=131402


This is from January 2005.

AllForMJ
05-01-2005, 06:16 PM #90
http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showthread.php?p=277548


This post is about the verdict. It is from February 2005.

AllForMJ
02-06-2005, 06:33 PM #286
http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showthread.php?p=458717


This August 2004 post is about MJ seeming like a baby that's walking for the first time.

AllForMJ
Aug 8 2004, 05:22 PM
http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showthread.php?p=118191


Now, listen to the question that he was asked around 2:07 into this video of his October 2006 television interview with Access Hollywood. Also, notice how the video starts with the verdict. And about the last thing that I said in the above August 8, 2004 post, it is still relevant today. How old is MJ right now?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znMwk3T9YQY


About MJ's spirituality...the answer he provided below to a question that he was asked in October 2001, shows he is also a very spiritual person.

"Mr. Jackson, what would you say to all your fans that have dreams and goals of being a star like you?"

Michael: No matter what, the most powerful thing in the world is the human mind and prayer, and belief in yourself and confidence and perseverance. No matter how many times you do it, you do it again until it's right. And always believe in yourself. And no matter who's around you that's being negative or thrusting negative energy at you, totally block it off. Because whatever you believe, you become.

And, if some reading this thread are still wondering if there really are times when MJ records songs that end up being prophetic, here is an example to show you that it does sometimes happen. It doesn't mean that he's trying to cause to happen, sometimes it just happens on its own. When he recorded this song, he was too young to know that it would apply to him as a man later on.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZfaAtFcITo&feature=related

One last prediction to end this post. This one is about MJ's concerts. This prediction that has come to pass is starting off in one part of the world and will happen in the U.S. when the momentum picks up.

AllForMJ
01-06-2008, 08:57 PM #233



God is good. He does answer prayer when you truly believe in Him, and He has been helping Michael Jackson because Michael was being unfairly mistreated after spending the majority of his life bringing joy to others worldwide.

And in closing, just got to mention that although I do often look at things from a spiritual angle, there are times when I also act goofy. I like to laugh ya'll, because hey, that's just me! Gotta laugh too, ya know? This world is such a mess that if we don't find reasons to laugh sometimes, we will spend the majority of our lives crying and I don't feel like doing that. That's not fun! LOL Plus, laughing doesn't take away from my spirituality. It's mine from God just like laughing is. Also, having a relationship with God makes life easier to live.

:D

Aw hell AllForMJ....I'll make ya laugh.. Remember that post of MJ in the loin cloth??

http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=52601&page=140

[you_rock_my_world]

lmfao ur funny girl. :)

[you_rock_my_world]

lmfao ur funny girl. :) that really made me lough out loud but gaved me a good imagination :)



Aw hell AllForMJ....I'll make ya laugh.. Remember that post of MJ in the loin cloth??

http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=52601&page=140

[Safira]

Aw hell AllForMJ....I'll make ya laugh.. Remember that post of MJ in the loin cloth??

http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=52601&page=140

:lol: nooo PLEASE don't remind me of that totally over the top conversation!! :lol:

btw - I don't even want to see him in a loin cloth. He's more handsome in his normal clothes :yes:

[AllForMJ]

Aw hell AllForMJ....I'll make ya laugh.. Remember that post of MJ in the loin cloth??

http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=52601&page=140
OMG!!!!! Linda, you are a trip!!!

:lol: :rofl:

Guess what?!!! When I looked at that picture and imagined MJ wearing that, my mind went straight to it replacing the picture that's on the Thriller Album!!!

:rofl:

Sorry, Mike!! Linda started it!!! :lol:

[MysteriousPhoenix]

Aw hell AllForMJ....I'll make ya laugh.. Remember that post of MJ in the loin cloth??

http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=52601&page=140


Holy Mackerel !:o

[AllForMJ]

Holy Mackerel !:o
:lol: :giggle:

[you_rock_my_world]

:lol: u guys :lol:

[LindaC781]

OMG!!!!! Linda, you are a trip!!!

:lol: :rofl:

Guess what?!!! When I looked at that picture and imagined MJ wearing that, my mind went straight to it replacing the picture that's on the Thriller Album!!!

:rofl:

Sorry, Mike!! Linda started it!!! :lol:

Now thats an idea!! Let's spring a petition - call it the "Get MJ to Wear A Loin CLoth for His Next Album Cover!" LMAO!!:wild:

[LindaC781]

Here it is...
http://www.petitiononline.com/115433/petition.html

Remember. It's for the good of females everywhere....
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c299/lilbigmutha/tasteless_bear_rugpreview.jpg

[AllForMJ]

Oh no!!! You rrrrrrrreeeeally created a petition?!!

:lol:

[LindaC781]

Oh no!!! You rrrrrrrreeeeally created a petition?!!

:lol:

Yeah....I was bored....lol :lol: :lol: :lol:

I know....I am bad....really really baaaddd....

[LindaC781]

Hey! Just got an idea!! MJ could sing this song to me...

"Trashy Women" by Confederate Railroad...

Well, I was raised in a sophisticated kind of style.
Yeah, my taste in music and women drove my folks half wild.
Mom and Dad had a plan for me,
It was debutantes and er-symphonies,
But I like my music; I like my women wild.

Yeah, an' I like my women just a little on the trashy side,
When they wear their clothes too tight and their hair is dyed.
Too much lipstick an' er too much rouge,
Gets me excited, leaves me feeling confused.
An' I like my women just a little on the trashy side.

Shoulda seen the looks on the faces of my Dad and Mom,
When I showed up at the door with a date for the senior prom.
They said: "Well, pardon us son, she ain't no kid.
"That's a cocktail waitress in a Dolly Parton wig.
I said: "I know it dad, ain't she cool, that's the kind I dig."

Yeah, an' I like my women just a little on the trashy side,
When they wear their clothes too tight and their hair is dyed.
Too much lipstick an' er too much rouge,
Gets me excited, leaves me feeling confused.
An' I like my women just a little on the trashy side.

Instrumental break.

I like 'em sweet, I like 'em with a heart of gold.
Yeah an' I like 'em brassy, I like 'em brazen and bold.
Well, they say that opposites attract, well, I don't agree
I want a woman just as tacky as me.
Yeah, I like my women just a little on the trashy side.

Yeah, an' I like my women just a little on the trashy side,
When they wear their clothes too tight and their hair is dyed.
Too much lipstick an' er too much rouge,
Gets me excited, leaves me feeling confused.
An' I like my women just a little on the trashy side.

Yeah, I like my women an' I like 'em on the trashy side

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Cause, after all - they are singin about ME!! LOL!!

[MysteriousPhoenix]

You know, this all has really made me think (oh no, take cover!). Do you think that Michael is as romantic in real life as he is in his songs? Discuss.

*going over to sign petition for new This Is It! CD cover*

[LindaC781]

You know, this all has really made me think (oh no, take cover!). Do you think that Michael is as romantic in real life as he is in his songs? Discuss.

*going over to sign petition for new This Is It! CD cover*

I dunno. I'm not as romantic as some would think. I think MJ has his moments...but could he be that serious all the time? He's gotta lighten up!! I'd make him crack up...

[Sdeidjs]

You know, this all has really made me think (oh no, take cover!). Do you think that Michael is as romantic in real life as he is in his songs? Discuss.

*going over to sign petition for new This Is It! CD cover*

Yes...

:angel:

[MysteriousPhoenix]

^ You're right. I guess if he can write and sing like that, he's already proven himself to be very romantic.

[Sdeidjs]

^ You're right. I guess if he can write and sing like that, he's already proven himself to be very romantic.

:angel:Smiles~~~

[8701girl]

Now thats an idea!! Let's spring a petition - call it the "Get MJ to Wear A Loin CLoth for His Next Album Cover!" LMAO!!:wild:


Yep im all for that! :P :lol: ;)

[Sdeidjs]

Next Album Cover...Mmmm~~~

How About a Black & White Album Cover...With one side a Kings Crown, the other side with a Queens Crown they meet in the middle...Heaven, the Angels, and Gods hands are above the two of them..?

That would fit perfectly into this thread...interesting...

:angel:

[8701girl]

How bout mj kicking sneddon ass!??? :P

[Sdeidjs]

How bout mj kicking sneddon ass!??? :P

Ahhh...I don't really think I would worry about that too much...what goes around will eventually come around...Its just a matter of time..!

:angel:Psalm 37

[8701girl]

Ahhh...I don't really think I would worry about that too much...what goes around will eventually come around...Its just a matter of time..!

:angel:Psalm 37

That very true sdeidjs

[Sdeidjs]

When WE got God by our side...There is NO stopping us~~~ (c) 1993

Susie
Author

:angel:Knowledge IS Growth

[8701girl]

that is very sweet :)

[Safira]

Here it is...
http://www.petitiononline.com/115433/petition.html

Remember. It's for the good of females everywhere....
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c299/lilbigmutha/tasteless_bear_rugpreview.jpg
geez.. the -dead bear- is the most attrative on this picture! :lol:

You know, this all has really made me think (oh no, take cover!). Do you think that Michael is as romantic in real life as he is in his songs? Discuss.

*going over to sign petition for new This Is It! CD cover*
He might be.. But arent we all just a little romantic :)
I believe that Michael is a very "deep" person when it comes to thoughts and feelings. And that that is what makes him sort of romantic. I don't see him as that sort of romantic that comes with red roses and chokolate for his lady all the time.
But more romantic in a thoughtfull, spiritual way. I think he has romantical ideas, like fx. (maybe) the thought of having a "love in the dark".

One thing that is for shure is that Michael dont just dream of the ordinary when it comes to romance.. or thats how I grasp his personality!

[you_rock_my_world]

wow linda a petition lmfao :lol:







and about snedon well HE WILL GET WHAT IS COMMING TO HIM u just watch and see.

[Safira]

why don't we just all drop that snedon thingy on the floor.. he's pathetic, a picture of the mindless ego that grows in the human nature in this time of the history..

he's not worth spending words or energy on..

[LindaC781]

why don't we just all drop that snedon thingy on the floor.. he's pathetic, a picture of the mindless ego that grows in the human nature in this time of the history..

he's not worth spending words or energy on..

Yeah. I agree. I think we all need to sign my petition. Whaddya think? ;) ;)

[Safira]

Yeah. I agree. I think we all need to sign my petition. Whaddya think?

I can't get the page to work :(

[8701girl]

geez.. the -dead bear- is the most attrative on this picture! :lol:

!


:lol:........yep that dude is fugly!

[LindaC781]

AW forget it. Once I get onto that petition site, I'm gonna delete this. It's just that MJ is one fine looking man, and he should know that he is!! He should walk around and flaunt it!! I mean, those long legs...that fine tight little tushy....ok I'll stop.

But I will stop referring to him as a piece of meat....so I do respect him.

[Safira]

AW forget it. Once I get onto that petition site, I'm gonna delete this. It's just that MJ is one fine looking man, and he should know that he is!! He should walk around and flaunt it!! I mean, those long legs...that fine tight little tushy....ok I'll stop.

But I will stop referring to him as a piece of meat....so I do respect him.
Don'y worry Linda, I think it's pretty clear that you are a little unserious about your "meat-talk" :giggle:

And I think you're right! It would only be fair if he agreed with us that he's handsome! But I think he does.. deep inside him.. that is where that "yea I know I'm hot.." sort of person is hiding :yes:
...
Well if he doesent know it then he better start knowing it!
When Michael is saying ":dont_mention_it:no I'm not sexy.." it's the same as if David Beckam said ":dont_mention_it:no I'm not good at soccer..".
or.. kinda.. :scratch:

[LindaC781]

See Safira...you understand me....:giggle:

[Safira]

See Safira...you understand me....:giggle:

:yes::flowers:

I love humor! Positive-energy is always the answer.

apropos humor..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgd5OQy0nhI :lmao:
I believe it's the same artist that made "Indian Thriller"! soooo funny..
I don't get a word though.. But they are really talented dancers :o

Do you think Michael knows about this "indian michael jackson" ?
I think he is famous in india??

oh I'm going off topic again.. :doh:
it's always me isnt it.. :blush:

[MysteriousPhoenix]

Um, excuse me, but can anyone interpret this song, 2000 Watts?



2000 Watts lyrics


You feel I’m real
I’m everything you need, so tell me what’s the deal


Compact steelo, chico, D-Lo, highpost lady
Shorty really wanna be there for me

Edit: Never mind. Someone already explained it to me.

[Lisha]

:popcorn:

[Ashtanga]

Remember. It's for the good of females everywhere....
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c299/lilbigmutha/tasteless_bear_rugpreview.jpg

:doh::doh::doh: Trash this man of the caves! Or is the Tarzan? :scratch: :wild::wild::wild:


Girls, it is not pretty, it has nothing to sexy, that wig is ugly, that his underwear... no comments (lol!), it lying on top of open-mouthed bear has nothing to do (poor bear...:(), is trying to be sexy and lovelace does not have anything and I found that horrible picture. lol! :wild::wild::wild:


I'm just laughing with this picture! lol!




The "man of the caves" or "Tarzan" will look in the mirror and asks and very afraid to know the answer:

*Mirror, mirror, mirror my own: there is another man in this world more beautiful than I, smarter than me, more sexy than me with the look more seductive than mine, with the body more sculptural than the man, more palatable to me? :scratch:




After a few minutes and with much sincerity the mirror answered:



Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeessssssssssssssss!!!!!!!!!! Michael Jackson!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :wild::wild::wild:

[Safira]

Um, excuse me, but can anyone interpret this song, 2000 Watts?



2000 Watts lyrics


You feel I’m real
I’m everything you need, so tell me what’s the deal


Compact steelo, chico, D-Lo, highpost lady
Shorty really wanna be there for me

Edit: Never mind. Someone already explained it to me.

These lyrics are odd because at one point it seens like a poshy lady, but at the same time it seems like someone who wants to be there for him?

Maybe this girl only wanted him for egoistic needs, and the wantng to be there for him was only to satisfy something she needed herself, and Michael saw through that?

The energy of this song seems to be a little "irritated" and "grumpy".. or is it just me? It seems like a statement.

I like the line in the beginning "you may now apply your 3d glasses".
Watch MJ in 3d. Profile. Turn him around. Look at him from top to toe.
Think they know everything about him.

I can imagine that the women fans' fascination of his appearance can go to his head sometimes, and maybe this is where this particular lyric comes from..

:doh::doh::doh: Trash this man of the caves! Or is the Tarzan? :scratch: :wild::wild::wild:


Girls, it is not pretty, it has nothing to sexy, that wig is ugly, that his underwear... no comments (lol!), it lying on top of open-mouthed bear has nothing to do (poor bear...:(), is trying to be sexy and lovelace does not have anything and I found that horrible picture. lol! :wild::wild::wild:


I'm just laughing with this picture! lol!




The "man of the caves" or "Tarzan" will look in the mirror and asks and very afraid to know the answer:


*Mirror, mirror, mirror my own: there is another man in this world more beautiful than I, smarter than me, more sexy than me with the look more seductive than mine, with the body more sculptural than the man, more palatable to me? :scratch:




After a few minutes and with much sincerity the mirror answered:




Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeessssssssssssssss!!!!!!!!!! Michael Jackson!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :wild::wild::wild:


:lol: Theres a LOT of men in this world that is more beautifull than this one. But the ugly thing is the motive, not the person really.. Don't you agree? I meen.. if he had some decent cloth on he would'nt look that bad?


but I think it's important to understand the ironic message in this picture that Linda posted.

The true story is:
We don't want to see Michael in loin cloth! We want to see him in the sort of clothes he has always been wearing! We want to see him dance and hear him sing.
If any of us wanted to be fan of a man in loin cloth I think we would have picked someone totally different than MJ..

I can't even find an example.. uuhh.. Peter André maybe? bwaaadr.. unintelligent, untalented.. a lot of muscles? Whatever.. He don't know how to carry himself around..

[Lily]

I know these interpretations are all in fun, but have you ever gone back and read this thread from the beginning and think "we may be way off base here....." :ermm: :lol:

[Safira]

I know these interpretations are all in fun, but have you ever gone back and read this thread from the beginning and think "we may be way off base here....." :ermm: :lol:

just a little?:giggle: sorry I hope it's not my fault :mello:

[Ashtanga]

:lol: Theres a LOT of men in this world that is more beautifull than this one. But the ugly thing is the motive, not the person really.. Don't you agree? I meen.. if he had some decent cloth on he would'nt look that bad?


but I think it's important to understand the ironic message in this picture that Linda posted.

The true story is:
We don't want to see Michael in loin cloth! We want to see him in the sort of clothes he has always been wearing! We want to see him dance and hear him sing.
If any of us wanted to be fan of a man in loin cloth I think we would have picked someone totally different than MJ..

I can't even find an example.. uuhh.. Peter André maybe? bwaaadr.. unintelligent, untalented.. a lot of muscles? Whatever.. He don't know how to carry himself around..


loin cloth... :smilerolleyes:hummm my imagination has gone now! lol! Off........

*Sorry Michael! Sometimes this happens... lol! :wild::D:smilerolleyes::wub:

Seriously... loin cloth does not match the Michael. But who is the "Peter André"? lol! I think I stop this kind of thing, as you said, is for those guys who only has a lot of muscles and are the best, the most beautiful man on the planet... For example, a model or Brad Pitt??? I remember him in the movie "Troy"...:wild:
Someone of the opposite Michael....

[Ashtanga]

I know these interpretations are all in fun, but have you ever gone back and read this thread from the beginning and think "we may be way off base here....." :ermm: :lol:


Hmmm is it was me? :scratch: Sorry... :(

[Lisha]

:popcorn:

[Lily]

^ I like reading the post from way back in all the areas on the board, it can be quite interesting. :bugeyed :lol:


You know, this all has really made me think (oh no, take cover!). Do you think that Michael is as romantic in real life as he is in his songs? Discuss.


I think he is, and probably moreso when he's in a relationship, but you can't expose ALL of yourself to the world. Some things are meant for only him and the woman he loves.....and I'll never ever tell -_- :lol:. I also think the feelings of love are more realistic and make your emotions come to life when you aren't just talking/singing about it but going through the experience. It happens with alot of us. So yes I do believe he is very romantic in real life. :)

[mysterygirl7]

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A couple things that one might discover through the aid of an online "Urban Dictionary."

Shorty can mean a "fine lady"

And a highpost lady can refer to one that is coming off like she's disinterested...which, of course, fits with the earlier lyrics:

You feel I’m real
I’m everything you need, so tell me what’s the deal

It seems consistent with a few of the songs off Invinsible that from his perspective there is this girl that is seeming hard to get, but at the same time, in his view, she is giving him mixed messages. Something is telling him she really does care about him. He is just not understanding what seems to feel like a lack of interest coming from her.

Well, if you turn it around at look at it from the girls perspective.. let's say she had a moment where MJ could check her out.. then would he really be interested in someone who seemed interested in him... that's what he has always had with girls.. I think perhaps the girl had to play cold and do something different.. and maybe he wanted a girl, where he had to score her ( sorry score as in a soccer-goal - do you even use that term in english I wonder..) for a change

[Lisha]

:popcorn:

[Ashtanga]

[quote=Lily;1930861I think he is, and probably moreso when he's in a relationship, but you can't expose ALL of yourself to the world. Some things are meant for only him and the woman he loves.....and I'll never ever tell -_- :lol:. I also think the feelings of love are more realistic and make your emotions come to life when you aren't just talking/singing about it but going through the experience. It happens with alot of us. So yes I do believe he is very romantic in real life. :)[/quote]


I agree with you. I also believe that Michael is very romantic for the woman he is loving. Especially when he feels that love is pure and true. He speaks very intensely about love in their songs and that would not be romantic? We do not know to what extent will this romance, but this is a very special part of it, that only he and his beloved wife know. It should be kept secret between the two. But we are curious to know how to love Michael Jackson and to what extent will the romanticism, the conquest, if he has some kind of crazy for someone.... is normal we have that curiosity. And the times I am thinking about it. :scratch:

[mysterygirl7]

I think you make an excellent point.

thank you



Come to think of it...so do you! I'm sure he would feel that way. He seems the private type to me. Doncha think?

he does..., and maybe she is too, and that could be another reason, why they are apart (if they are apart ofcourse)



~ btw, mysterygirl7, I use that term "score" often in such a way.

^Oh really, I wasn't sure..

[Lily]

Well, if you turn it around at look at it from the girls perspective.. let's say she had a moment where MJ could check her out.. then would he really be interested in someone who seemed interested in him... that's what he has always had with girls.. I think perhaps the girl had to play cold and do something different.. and maybe he wanted a girl, where he had to score her ( sorry score as in a soccer-goal - do you even use that term in english I wonder..) for a change

GGGGoooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaallllllllllllll!!!!!! just popped into my head when I read the soccer reference :lol: Sorry I'm being bratty right now :winking2:



Come to think of it...so do you! I'm sure he would feel that way. He seems the private type to me. Doncha think?

Yes, I think that goes for everyone, talkers bother me. There are just certain things you have to hold sacred when your life is so exposed, such as Michaels is. :)

[mysterygirl7]

GGGGoooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaallllllllllllll!!!!!! just popped into my head when I read the soccer reference :lol: Sorry I'm being bratty right now :winking2:


LOL :cheeky:

[Safira]

Well, if you turn it around at look at it from the girls perspective.. let's say she had a moment where MJ could check her out.. then would he really be interested in someone who seemed interested in him... that's what he has always had with girls.. I think perhaps the girl had to play cold and do something different.. and maybe he wanted a girl, where he had to score her ( sorry score as in a soccer-goal - do you even use that term in english I wonder..) for a change

I've wondered that too.. Who knows? People are often much different inside than what they "pretend" on the outside. To give an example - I was suprised with my own boyfriends true emotions when I got to know him. And I'm still finding out new things about his true inner personality this day -3 years later. Personalities is a world to explore and whats annoying about trying to understand your idol is that you don't really know him at all. We can really only guess based on his "facade" basicly!

oh and Queen G - the only thing being said in the song was "you may now aply your 3d glasses" the other things that you marked where something I wrote myself :yes:

Do I speak like a lyric? cool.. I'm a lyric!!!! :P

and Ashtanga - That blond hair suits you very well :yes: very good picture.. *looks a little jaloux* :)

[Lisha]

:popcorn:

[Ashtanga]

I've wondered that too.. Who knows? People are often much different inside than what they "pretend" on the outside. To give an example - I was suprised with my own boyfriends true emotions when I got to know him. And I'm still finding out new things about his true inner personality this day -3 years later. Personalities is a world to explore and whats annoying about trying to understand your idol is that you don't really know him at all. We can really only guess based on his "facade" basicly!


I agree with you Safira. I usually say that the human being is a box of surprises. Each day you discover something new about the person. You never fully know the person at the exact moment you know. This takes time, sometimes for years you know and understand the other. I think you will only really know the background when the person you live with it daily, 24 hours a day, sleeping and waking together, living in the same house, or when you marry that person. When you are boyfriend or fiance you still do not fully know that person, you know the basics about your personality. So, in my view, it is only within the marriage that you will really know that person, if they experience problems and challenges in the path that must be addressed and overcome together. And when that happens, some people say: I think I made the wrong choice, he / she is so different from me, I'm not happy with him / her, we fight a lot or "now I really know who he / she is "... that last sentence I heard a lot... Find the right person, someone you really love and accept you the way you are, without trying to change you, is like winning the lottery, it is very difficult but not impossible. God has someone special booked for us... :yes:



and Ashtanga - That blond hair suits you very well :yes: very good picture.. *looks a little jaloux* :)
:wild: Thanks Safira! This is "blond ambition"! lol! (Just kidding, I am not an ambitious person... just a little.) But... you left me shy now... :blush:

[Lily]

You should be a lyricist, my gosh! MJ will be hiring you soon to help out! :D

Shows how it would help if one really knew his songs before they go on and on deciphering lyrics...that do not...even exist! :doh: *can't even tell when someone is adding anything to the lyrics or not*

Oh, heck it was fun anyway. :lol:

This cracks me up, because it sounds like something I would do :lol: knowledge of the lyrics is definitely not my forté. :girl_sigh: :lol:




:wild: Thanks Safira! This is "blond ambition"! lol! (Just kidding, I am not an ambitious person... just a little.) But... you left me shy now... :blush:

It makes you look like 2 different people than the darker hair in the picture thread with the doggie. It looks nice. :)

[Ashtanga]

It makes you look like 2 different people than the darker hair in the picture thread with the doggie. It looks nice. :)


Lily, I'm not blonde. My hair is dark and the picture you're talking about is old, it is 2004 and I had 23 years of age. lol! I was very young and I moved around a lot physically.:)
And I do not like to take pictures. :(

[Moddie777]

Mysterygirl and Safira, I think the two of you could be on to something as far as how Michael's approach with this current lady love could have differed from the rest.
Whatever she did, she certaintly made a very lasting impression on Michael. So much so, even as he had other women, he continued singing about his love for her and how he longed for her to be back in his life as things were before.
Michael's clues has consitantly told us,( through the years) he is on a deeply spiritual journey with this lady and without her, he has felt incomplete as a human being. She complete's him and he feels whole only when the love of the woman he desires is returned to him.
These things and several other clues he has given through the years indicates, their getting together was very very different from anything elese Michael had experienced with a female before. Something was different about her, something must have blown him away about her. And not "showing" signs of liking him or throwing herself at him when they initially met could very well be the key.
Men like to chase and court their women. Many enjoy being on the recieving end without having to do any work if you know what I mean, but the ladies that get the introduction to "Mama" are typically the ones that aren't "Easy".
From Michael's own clues, this relationship first started when he was on top of the world and everyone was singing his praises. You couldn't turn on the radio without hearing one of his songs every hour. During this time he could've had any woman he wanted and as many as he could handle. Women threw themselves at him all the time. A few during this era even claimed he had fathered their child/children. His affection was in high demand, but Michael was in love, someone had captured his heart and soul and he told us what direction he desired this relationship to take-The ultimate committment. Marriage. A standing before God and loved ones promising your life to another. Michael couldv'e taken the playboy route, he certaintly had many of women who made themselves available to him and even if a few of them caught his eye from time to time, it was his special secret lady that had already captured the very core of his essence and by sharing love toegther with her, had taken him to newer spiritual heights.
This woman had to have been different to do that. For Michael to feel the way his clues tells us he is feeling; this woman and how the initial meeting between them was, had to have been something, not even we can fully understand or explain.
He has told us on more than one occasion, it was/is a Magical and Mysterious connection with her.
A woman certainly can't give off those vibes if she was/is being easy or like all the
rest he has had.

[Lisha]

:popcorn:

[summer]

"The way she came into the place....there was something different about this girl...the way she moved...her hair, her face, her lines....divinity in motion...."

:popcorn:


:lol:

[Ashtanga]

"The way she came into the place....there was something different about this girl...the way she moved...her hair, her face, her lines....divinity in motion...."

This is so beautiful... :wub::wub::wub:

[Safira]

Mysterygirl and Safira, I think the two of you could be on to something as far as how Michael's approach with this current lady love could have differed from the rest.
Whatever she did, she certaintly made a very lasting impression on Michael. So much so, even as he had other women, he continued singing about his love for her and how he longed for her to be back in his life as things were before.
Michael's clues has consitantly told us,( through the years) he is on a deeply spiritual journey with this lady and without her, he has felt incomplete as a human being. She complete's him and he feels whole only when the love of the woman he desires is returned to him.
These things and several other clues he has given through the years indicates, their getting together was very very different from anything elese Michael had experienced with a female before. Something was different about her, something must have blown him away about her. And not "showing" signs of liking him or throwing herself at him when they initially met could very well be the key.
Men like to chase and court their women. Many enjoy being on the recieving end without having to do any work if you know what I mean, but the ladies that get the introduction to "Mama" are typically the ones that aren't "Easy".
From Michael's own clues, this relationship first started when he was on top of the world and everyone was singing his praises. You couldn't turn on the radio without hearing one of his songs every hour. During this time he could've had any woman he wanted and as many as he could handle. Women threw themselves at him all the time. A few during this era even claimed he had fathered their child/children. His affection was in high demand, but Michael was in love, someone had captured his heart and soul and he told us what direction he desired this relationship to take-The ultimate committment. Marriage. A standing before God and loved ones promising your life to another. Michael couldv'e taken the playboy route, he certaintly had many of women who made themselves available to him and even if a few of them caught his eye from time to time, it was his special secret lady that had already captured the very core of his essence and by sharing love toegther with her, had taken him to newer spiritual heights.
This woman had to have been different to do that. For Michael to feel the way his clues tells us he is feeling; this woman and how the initial meeting between them was, had to have been something, not even we can fully understand or explain.
He has told us on more than one occasion, it was/is a Magical and Mysterious connection with her.
A woman certainly can't give off those vibes if she was/is being easy or like all the
rest he has had.

exactly! great post Moddie :clapping:
I've thought about something else regarding this.. Theres always someone who is leading the way when a relationship takes form.
How do you think Michael preffere that?
Do he want to be the one who invites or the one who gets invited?
Do he want to be the one who takes flirt or the one who gives flirt?

or in other words - does he like HER to fight for HIM or the oposite?
I think that theres a possibility that he might be conflicting with himself here..?

[Ashtanga]

exactly!How do you think Michael preffere that?
Do he want to be the one who invites or the one who gets invited?
Do he want to be the one who takes flirt or the one who gives flirt?

or in other words - does he like HER to fight for HIM or the oposite?
I think that theres a possibility that he might be conflicting with himself here..?



Hey, Safira, you will make everyone dizzy with so many questions! lol!:wild::wild::wild: (Kidding!) :D



Very interesting what you said. Well, I think it depends greatly on the intensity of love, the stage was that this relationship and especially for Michael and his beloved. I "think" that Michael should be the type of man who likes to take the initiative, I believe that he likes women that are thrown to him immediately to the chase. I think he likes that thing for a woman to win a few, that is more exciting and creates a climate of mystery between the two is very romantic and that is still stage of knowledge, knowing the other one. And what a woman who does not like to be won that way? :D


But I do not know, Michael is shy, but and when he is alone with a woman, does it shy away? As this involves Michael Jackson that we do not know (the Michael Jackson love and face to face with your beloved)? :scratch:I was curious now... lol! :yes:




Hey, Safira... I remember now that music of Shakira ... I think that Michael would be:

Eterno Amor - Shakira

Hace tiempo que nos conocemos
Que estamos los dos en algo que parece una amistad
Compartimos mil secretos, nos contamos mil cosas
Es hora de decirte la verdad
Algo nuevo estoy sintiendo
Mi corazón te quiere hablar
Que por ti está latiendo y te quiere preguntar
Que vas ha hacer el resto de tu vida?
Que vas ha hacer desde ahora y para siempre?
Yo quiero saber si un milagro puede ser
Que este sueño sea el comienzo de un eterno amor
Yo quisiera que me acompanes, que me cambies la vida
Quisiera verte en cada atardecer
Y que sepas que te extraño cada vez que te vas
Necesito tenerte cerca un poco más
Yo no puedo estar fingiendo
Mi corazón no aguanta más
Que por ti está latiendo y te quiere preguntar
Que vas ha hacer el resto de tu vida?
Que vas ha hacer desde ahora y para siempre?
Yo quiero saber si un milagro puede ser
Que este sueño sea el comienzo de un eterno amor
Yo quiero saber si un milagro puede ser
Que este sueño sea el comienzo de un eterno amor
Que vas ha hacer el resto de tu vida?
Que vas ha hacer desde ahora y para siempre?
Yo quiero saber, yo quiero saber, yo quiero, yo quiero saber
El comienzo de un eterno amor
Que vas a hacer, que vas a hacer, que vas a hacer, que vas a hacer?
Yo quiero saber, yo quiero saber, yo quiero
El comienzo de un eterno amor




Translation:


Eternal Love

Some time that we know
We are both in something that looks like a friendship
Compartimos thousand secrets, we tell a thousand things
It's time to tell the truth

I'm feeling something new
My heart wants you to talk
That is beating you and you want to ask

What are you going to do the rest of your life?
What are you going to do now and forever?
I want to know if a miracle can be
This dream is the beginning of an eternal love

I would like to join me, that it changed my life
I would look at each evening
And you know that I miss you every time you go
I need to have a little more closely

I can not pretend
My heart is overcome
That is beating you and you want to ask

What are you going to do the rest of your life?
What are you going to do now and forever?
I want to know if a miracle can be
This dream is the beginning of an eternal love

I want to know if a miracle can be
This dream is the beginning of an eternal love

What are you going to do the rest of your life?
What are you going to do now and forever?
I want to know, I know, I want, I want to know
The beginning of an eternal love

What you gonna do, what you gonna do, what you gonna do, what you gonna do?
I want to know, I know, I
The beginning of an eternal love


:)

[Moddie777]

^ Amazing post, Moddie. Very intuitive. :) Thanks for sharing those thoughts.

Awwwww shucks queen g.

[Moddie777]

"The way she came into the place....there was something different about this girl...the way she moved...her hair, her face, her lines....divinity in motion...."

:popcorn:


:lol:


Yep! Yep! Yep!!!!!! Thanks for this proof summer!

Taken from Michael's own song.

[Moddie777]

exactly! great post Moddie :clapping:
I've thought about something else regarding this.. Theres always someone who is leading the way when a relationship takes form.
How do you think Michael preffere that?
Do he want to be the one who invites or the one who gets invited?
Do he want to be the one who takes flirt or the one who gives flirt?

or in other words - does he like HER to fight for HIM or the oposite?
I think that theres a possibility that he might be conflicting with himself here..?

Thanks for the compliment Safira. I can reply to your post a little later on.

I got to leave out with the family right now.

[Moddie777]

exactly! great post Moddie :clapping:
I've thought about something else regarding this.. Theres always someone who is leading the way when a relationship takes form.
How do you think Michael preffere that?
Do he want to be the one who invites or the one who gets invited?
Do he want to be the one who takes flirt or the one who gives flirt?

or in other words - does he like HER to fight for HIM or the oposite?
I think that theres a possibility that he might be conflicting with himself here..?

We know Michael's life to be very busy, caotic, and complexed. There are so many people all around him, each having different roles in his professional career, each possibly giving him direction or trying to do so. One wanting or demanding this from him, while at the same time another wanting or demanding something entirely different. Having a long, very successful and high profiled career as Michael could leave a person feeling as though they have little control in certain aspects of their lives. How can one feel as though they are in control when theres so many different people in their face or trying to get in their face all the time?
Some of his own admissions in interviews as well as clues from his songs suggests he is aware that this has created problems for him.
A person who is aware that these factors will cause or have caused problems in their professional careers will probably take on a different approach in their personal lives, especially if they have something in their private lives they do not want to part with, and we know from Michael's clues, now that she has returned to him after being apart for so long, this is it for him. he wants to take that next step with her. Everything he has done in recent years was for the two of them to reconnect and have the happy ending he needs.
Remember the changes he began to make after the trial? Remember that cleansing period he went through? That was to get his house in order and make room for this relationship. These are signs he has been the one leading in this relationship.
When Michael is on stage performing, what do we witness? We witness a man who is vibrant, in control, commands the stage, very sexual and alive. Not shy at all, is it? Where does it come from? It derives from his inner being, the person he isn't allowed to be in every day life, comes alive on stage. These traits are as much a part of the real him as being shy and soft spoken has been apart of his public image.
In Michael's personal life, when he is at ease and comfortable and with a woman he desires, I believe he is vibrant, outspoken( unshy), in control of revealing his needs and wants, have a commanding presense in the relationship; in other words he is present and involved in the relationship, very sexual and flirty with his partner and he's animated(alive and playful) with her.
If you pay close attention to his stage persona You'd see exactly what I am talking about.
His stage performances gives us many clues about how comfortable he is in his own manly skin.
Remember how we keep hearing about he flirts with female fans? He goes on and on doesn't he? We have so many stories of this. What does it show? Not only does it show a performer who recognizes his role within his female fanbase but it also reveals how confident he is as a
man with the opposite sex. After being flirted with by Michael, many female fans believe they are or could be his girlfriend. Just image how that same confidence is played out behind closed doors with "the one" who holds his heart. In his personal life, I doubt he would hold back at all. He doesn't seem to be the type to want too. It appears that he enjoy having fun being the man.

[Lisha]

:popcorn:

[Safira]

We know Michael's life to be very busy, caotic, and complexed. There are so many people all around him, each having different roles in his professional career, each possibly giving him direction or trying to do so. One wanting or demanding this from him, while at the same time another wanting or demanding something entirely different. Having a long, very successful and high profiled career as Michael could leave a person feeling as though they have little control in certain aspects of their lives. How can one feel as though they are in control when theres so many different people in their face or trying to get in their face all the time?
Some of his own admissions in interviews as well as clues from his songs suggests he is aware that this has created problems for him.
A person who is aware that these factors will cause or have caused problems in their professional careers will probably take on a different approach in their personal lives, especially if they have something in their private lives they do not want to part with, and we know from Michael's clues, now that she has returned to him after being apart for so long, this is it for him. he wants to take that next step with her. Everything he has done in recent years was for the two of them to reconnect and have the happy ending he needs.
Remember the changes he began to make after the trial? Remember that cleansing period he went through? That was to get his house in order and make room for this relationship. These are signs he has been the one leading in this relationship.
When Michael is on stage performing, what do we witness? We witness a man who is vibrant, in control, commands the stage, very sexual and alive. Not shy at all, is it? Where does it come from? It derives from his inner being, the person he isn't allowed to be in every day life, comes alive on stage. These traits are as much a part of the real him as being shy and soft spoken has been apart of his public image.
In Michael's personal life, when he is at ease and comfortable and with a woman he desires, I believe he is vibrant, outspoken( unshy), in control of revealing his needs and wants, have a commanding presense in the relationship; in other words he is present and involved in the relationship, very sexual and flirty with his partner and he's animated(alive and playful) with her.
If you pay close attention to his stage persona You'd see exactly what I am talking about.
His stage performances gives us many clues about how comfortable he is in his own manly skin.
Remember how we keep hearing about he flirts with female fans? He goes on and on doesn't he? We have so many stories of this. What does it show? Not only does it show a performer who recognizes his role within his female fanbase but it also reveals how confident he is as a
man with the opposite sex. After being flirted with by Michael, many female fans believe they are or could be his girlfriend. Just image how that same confidence is played out behind closed doors with "the one" who holds his heart. In his personal life, I doubt he would hold back at all. He doesn't seem to be the type to want too. It appears that he enjoy having fun being the man.

Maybe you're right. Man oh man.. if MY!! boyfriend is going to start flirting with HIS female fanbase, I'm gonna craaaazy I tell ya :P (he's not famous but theres always those kinds of girls when his playing a smaller concert anyway..)
Once a girl went nutz in front of the stage (we where playing a concert at a school) and began to dance like Britney Spears looking in his eyes in a really inapropriate way..
I had a hard time trying to not ask wtf the little doll was doing.. :lol:

Those of you that was a fan of Michael when he was married, did you notice any difference in his outgoing? I meen like. anything? besides the "in love" behavior ofcourse.

[Moddie777]

^ Another great post, Moddie. Wow, you're on a roll! :D



I thought that was interesting for you to bring up. If an individual shows passion in their art, then that passion is a part of them, period, if it is always evident or not, depending what they are doing. A lot of what you shared here was good stuff, Moddie. I enjoyed reading your post. Thought provoking.

queen g, your compliments always inspire. You are a great cheerleader!

Ya' know something elese I picked up on about Michael's behavior/personality when he is being loved the way he wants and needs to be ?
When everything is coming together for Michael in his personal life not only is he playful,happy and upbeat but he also show signs of being erotically possessive of his love interest. Take for instance his usage of the word, "Mine" in his songs. For a typical average joe to use this word in describing what his woman mean to him would immediately give the impression of how intense his emotions are for his honey. The same apply to Michael.
Remember how he sang "The girl is mine" in the original ''thriller", listen to how he sings the word "Mine" from T25 remix, he is singing with more of a conviction, more emphasis on that word alone. You can tell, with every fiber of his being; he knows she belongs to only him. Something elese that comes across with this word from "The Girl is Mine" and the way he now sings it as opposed to the way he did ions ago is this: The words to the song have more meaning to him now. You can tell there has been a personal change and Michael being playful and flirty shared that with us by making the T25 version the first single release, remember that?
I just remembered something: Remember the old but beautiful ballad "She's out of my life"?, I know he didn't write this song, but he sang it and later revealed to us whom it was for. His first love. What did he say about possession in that song? He sang this in part: "loves not possession, but I've learned too late". Like many songs that hold true meaning for him, he breaks down and cry in this song. The words have meaning, he identifies with them and the pain becomes intensified with the reality of what had happened in that relationship( it ended and he was crushed).
Like so many men, when in love Michael has experience with showing signs of being possessive. It is almost impossible for any man NOT to give off some signs of this trait when he is being loved the way he desires. It must be part of the male genepool because I can pick up on it nearly everywhere I go. It's really sweet to see actually. It's not meant to be intimidating at all for the woman. Men actually behave this way quit naturally. Not only that but I remember reading how intensified this emotions is for the virgo male in relationships.
Through the years we have read how meticulous Michael is when he is in the studio recording, how he does a song over and over until its right, then he relistens to it only to find something missing, and he reworks it again and again until he's satisfied. That is a sign of his passion. He is deeply passionate about something of which he possesses, in this case his artistry.
Now think about his passion for a lady love, a love he lost and longed for and sang about through the years even as he had others. A love he willed back to him after a long absence.
A flame rekindled because something about their initial connection wouldn't allow him to completely put the fire out. A love he so desperately wanted to return, he called on the Master for guidance.
How can he not be deeply passionate about this possession?

[Moddie777]

"The way she came into the place....there was something different about this girl...the way she moved...her hair, her face, her lines....divinity in motion...."

:popcorn:


:lol:

Summer, I almost forget to add this about your post. it reminds me of the many times Michael has revealed to us in song or through poetry how he is pays attention to the different things he likes about a lady who is holding his attention. We often hear him singing about the way she moves, and how he notices and like certain things about her body. He has told us over and over again about how he desires what he sees when he is looking in her direction. Almost all men are attracted to the visuals first but as we have come to know; it appears to take more to keep Michael than just having that initial physical attraction but in having that with his lady love, he appears to almost gloat.
He has revealed to us on several different occasions and in more than one way of how his having such an intensified physical attraction to her along with their spiritual bond has awakened all senses deep inside of him. Seeing her and enjoying what he sees, obviously from his own clues have given him that added boost needed.

[8701girl]

"The way she came into the place....there was something different about this girl...the way she moved...her hair, her face, her lines....divinity in motion...."

:popcorn:


:lol:


I love that part of "dangerous"

Michael speaks so sexy in it :wub:

[turthlili]

Summer, I almost forget to add this about your post. it reminds me of the many times Michael has revealed to us in song or through poetry how he is pays attention to the different things he likes about a lady who is holding his attention. We often hear him singing about the way she moves, and how he notices and like certain things about her body. He has told us over and over again about how he desires what he sees when he is looking in her direction. Almost all men are attracted to the visuals first but as we have come to know; it appears to take more to keep Michael than just having that initial physical attraction but in having that with his lady love, he appears to almost gloat.
He has revealed to us on several different occasions and in more than one way of how his having such an intensified physical attraction to her along with their spiritual bond has awakened all senses deep inside of him. Seeing her and enjoying what he sees, obviously from his own clues have given him that added boost needed.

did michael see her physically?
and did she know that michael is loving her?(i mean, not spiritual)

[Ashtanga]

did michael see her physically?
and did she know that michael is loving her?(i mean, not spiritual)
:scratch:

[Lily]

Lily, I'm not blonde. My hair is dark and the picture you're talking about is old, it is 2004 and I had 23 years of age. lol! I was very young and I moved around a lot physically.:)







And I do not like to take pictures. :(


Oh I thought that was your pic in your avatar too oops sorry. :blush: I don't like taking pictures either, I'm not very photogenic. -_- :blush:


did michael see her physically?
and did she know that michael is loving her?(i mean, not spiritual)

I believe that is left to everyones own individual interpretations, it's all speculative.....I think :unsure: who knows LOL

[Ashtanga]

Oh I thought that was your pic in your avatar too oops sorry. :blush: I don't like taking pictures either, I'm not very photogenic. -_- :blush:



My photos are old (with the dog that you saw), that of my avatar is present and is the first time I am blonde. lol! I do not have many photos that hate take pictures. They never come out the way I want! lol! :)

[Lily]

Ya' know something elese I picked up on about Michael's behavior/personality when he is being loved the way he wants and needs to be ?
When everything is coming together for Michael in his personal life not only is he playful,happy and upbeat but he also show signs of being erotically possessive of his love interest. Take for instance his usage of the word, "Mine" in his songs. For a typical average joe to use this word in describing what his woman mean to him would immediately give the impression of how intense his emotions are for his honey. The same apply to Michael.
Remember how he sang "The girl is mine" in the original ''thriller", listen to how he sings the word "Mine" from T25 remix, he is singing with more of a conviction, more emphasis on that word alone. You can tell, with every fiber of his being; he knows she belongs to only him. Something elese that comes across with this word from "The Girl is Mine" and the way he now sings it as opposed to the way he did ions ago is this: The words to the song have more meaning to him now. You can tell there has been a personal change and Michael being playful and flirty shared that with us by making the T25 version the first single release, remember that?


This part of your post Moddie777 about the T25 version kinda makes me think of what I've thought all along that the feelings could be more recent than what has been interpretated as being a love from maybe 20 years ago. It's more like within the past few years or so. He seems different to me today. There's something there and it's deeper than it has been before when I look at him. Hmmmmm?

.....or maybe I'm just thinking too analytical today, I'm in one of those scary romantic love moods :bugeyed :lol:

[Ashtanga]

This part of your post Moddie777 about the T25 version kinda makes me think of what I've thought all along that the feelings could be more recent than what has been interpretated as being a love from maybe 20 years ago. It's more like within the past few years or so. He seems different to me today. There's something there and it's deeper than it has been before when I look at him. Hmmmmm?

.....or maybe I'm just thinking too analytical today, I'm in one of those scary romantic love moods :bugeyed :lol:


It is very difficult to be so sure about these things. Only people who actually live with Michael to say, or better, Michael Jackson himself to answer all these questions. Talking about feelings and about what the other (in this case is Michael) feels it is difficult to say, only the person is known, only the person knows his own feelings, or even who is on their side: relatives and friends. Everything we write here are only superficial analysis of what we do see and not witnessed. Not always what we see is the truth, Michael may have had other thoughts and ideas to make their music, have been in a state of mind supple feel that different from what it was, never know what was the reality experienced by him in this process . Michael is a great mystery and so here we analyze and discuss trying to unravel this mystery. :yes:

[Safira]

This part of your post Moddie777 about the T25 version kinda makes me think of what I've thought all along that the feelings could be more recent than what has been interpretated as being a love from maybe 20 years ago. It's more like within the past few years or so. He seems different to me today. There's something there and it's deeper than it has been before when I look at him. Hmmmmm?

.....or maybe I'm just thinking too analytical today, I'm in one of those scary romantic love moods :bugeyed :lol:

but what exactly do you find different about him now?
He seems more calm and mature now, but that's what happens when your life progresses and you get "older".

I remember how he was acting when he was with Lisa Marie. I was'nt a commited fan backthen but I have seen some interviews and other clips with them together. And in that time period I saw something "different" in him.
He seemed a little more playful and happy, and he was more strong in his handeling of the journalists.

Right now I feel like I see a man who has settled with his children. I don't see "in love", but there might be someone special that he loves and wants in his life, and in his childrens life. Maybe?

[Ashtanga]

but what exactly do you find different about him now?
He seems more calm and mature now, but that's what happens when your life progresses and you get "older".

I remember how he was acting when he was with Lisa Marie. I was'nt a commited fan backthen but I have seen some interviews and other clips with them together. And in that time period I saw something "different" in him.
He seemed a little more playful and happy, and he was more strong in his handeling of the journalists.

Right now I feel like I see a man who has settled with his children. I don't see "in love", but there might be someone special that he loves and wants in his life, and in his childrens life. Maybe?

Hey, you're right Safira. Over the years we become more mature, that is how I see Michael today, a man more mature, but still has much to learn in life. All of us over the years will always have something to learn, is a cycle that never ends when one finishes learning, then get another, will never have an end. Today, I see Michael living for their children, worrying about their future, after all they are still children and need it very much. About love, I believe that Michael is not desperate to find their loved once that he knows that God is in control, is looking for him and working hard for it. And as I always say: Michael knows that God is preparing a very special woman for him, then why come in desperation to find his beloved if he knows that God is watching this and it will appear at the right time? Michael knows that this time will be the right woman for him, someone to love the way he deserves someone that loves the truth, someone who is your true friend, someone to give him security for Michael to feel safe her, someone who also loves unconditionally its three angels, who is always with him in good times and bad and is forever the eternal love and no matter what happens or appears in the middle of the road, she will always be beside Michael giving you the love that he always deserved. :yes:

[Lily]

It is very difficult to be so sure about these things. Only people who actually live with Michael to say, or better, Michael Jackson himself to answer all these questions. Talking about feelings and about what the other (in this case is Michael) feels it is difficult to say, only the person is known, only the person knows his own feelings, or even who is on their side: relatives and friends. Everything we write here are only superficial analysis of what we do see and not witnessed. Not always what we see is the truth, Michael may have had other thoughts and ideas to make their music, have been in a state of mind supple feel that different from what it was, never know what was the reality experienced by him in this process . Michael is a great mystery and so here we analyze and discuss trying to unravel this mystery. :yes:




I agree and that's why I said a couple pages back, we may be way off base here in our interpretations LOL. We don't know the true answers to any of this and to be honest I'd rather he stay mysterious and we never know the answer to DMJFLIND. I hope it stays between just him and his love, like it should. :)


but what exactly do you find different about him now?
He seems more calm and mature now, but that's what happens when your life progresses and you get "older".

I remember how he was acting when he was with Lisa Marie. I was'nt a commited fan backthen but I have seen some interviews and other clips with them together. And in that time period I saw something "different" in him.
He seemed a little more playful and happy, and he was more strong in his handeling of the journalists.

Right now I feel like I see a man who has settled with his children. I don't see "in love", but there might be someone special that he loves and wants in his life, and in his childrens life. Maybe?

I'm not sure how he acted during that LMP thing I didn't pay much attention, honestly he turned me off during that time. There's something about her I didn't and still don't care for. Oh well.....

I think you are right about the maturing but I still see a playfulness. There is something about his energy, it's just different to me when I look at him today. He's a man of even greater depth.....and I like it. :winking2:

.....or I dunno maybe I'm not seeing straight and need a new contact prescription LOL :girl_sigh: :lol:

[Ashtanga]

I agree and that's why I said a couple pages back, we may be way off base here in our interpretations LOL. We don't know the true answers to any of this and to be honest I'd rather he stay mysterious and we never know the answer to DMJFLIND. I hope it stays between just him and his love, like it should. :)



Yes, that has to be kept just between Michael and his love. The privacy in private life must always exist when it comes to a celebrity. If there is no privacy, that relationship will not right and will not be the way it should be lived by the two and can generate large problems. Although there is much curiosity by the press and fans, everyone should understand that life and private life are completely different things and that Michael is a human being and therefore everyone should respect their privacy. He also needs to have their "normal life" with his love and children. :cheeky:

[Safira]

I'm not sure how he acted during that LMP thing I didn't pay much attention, honestly he turned me off during that time. There's something about her I didn't and still don't care for. Oh well.....

I think you are right about the maturing but I still see a playfulness. There is something about his energy, it's just different to me when I look at him today. He's a man of even greater depth.....and I like it. :winking2:

.....or I dunno maybe I'm not seeing straight and need a new contact prescription LOL :girl_sigh: :lol:

So you did'nt pay attention to him in that time area because you did'nt like the choise of woman? ;)
I'm just kidding.. Sorry I just had a bad conversation with my mother in the phone :angry:

I just don't like the judging and talking about Michael and Lisa Marie. A relationship is not something for other people to evaluate on.
Michael is a very intelligent person that understands the human nature, and he can't be manipulated into anything..

but nomore talk of that..

I think you're right that he has a greater depth today! He has changed a lot in these last 10 years.. I wonder if we will also be able to see that change in his scene show? Or will he "take us back" ? :popcorn:

[Ashtanga]

I wonder if we will also be able to see that change in his scene show? Or will he "take us back" ? :popcorn:


I believe that yes, we will see a small change, but still have the same essence of the past. Of course, that as you said, it will take us back to the past with their presentations and beautifull voice. I feel that is something completely different from what we have seen and have to be that Michael is in 50 years, much has changed, but that same guy that we know of the past still there, but in another way: mature. Michael will for their creativity to test these concerts and once again he will prove to the world that he is and always will be the best and biggest artist in the world. Everything that involves the concerts has been a big mystery and will continue even if the rumors are emerging as these shows are, I'm sure Michael does not want to be disclosed any information he wants is a surprise to everyone. What all fans prepare their hearts and their eyes to what they are about to see live! And I'm super excited... :wild:

[Moddie777]

This part of your post Moddie777 about the T25 version kinda makes me think of what I've thought all along that the feelings could be more recent than what has been interpretated as being a love from maybe 20 years ago. It's more like within the past few years or so. He seems different to me today. There's something there and it's deeper than it has been before when I look at him. Hmmmmm?

.....or maybe I'm just thinking too analytical today, I'm in one of those scary romantic love moods :bugeyed :lol:


Lily, I think you are right to pick up on this. You are hearing in the song exactly what I heard when I first listened to it. His mood. And it does sound different, as I stated in the earlier post. I think the song and words have a more in depth meaning to him now.
It seems to reveal, there's has been a recent change that he more than likes.

[LindaC781]

Lily, I think you are right to pick up on this. You are hearing in the song exactly what I heard when I first listened to it. His mood. And it does sound different, as I stated in the earlier post. I think the song and words have a more in depth meaning to him now.
It seems to reveal, there's has been a recent change that he more than likes.

I tend to agree. IF there was a love in his life, it happened after 1993. Cause every time I saw him during that horrible time in his life, he looked downtrodden, old and weary. Like he had the weight of the world on his shoulders. If he did have a love back then, she would have made him happy despite what he was going through. We would have noticed the happiness back then. He wouldn't have appeared that way...but now he does.

And I for one am truly grateful for that. Life is too short to be angry, sad or depressed all the time...

[Ashtanga]

Life is too short to be angry, sad or depressed all the time...


It is true... The important thing is be happy and Michael will still have the happiness and love that he always deserved. What happened, and is buried and is part of the past and now Michael must not look further back and not to the side but forward to its future, for the good things that are still to come. :D:yes::angel:

[Moddie777]

I tend to agree. IF there was a love in his life, it happened after 1993. Cause every time I saw him during that horrible time in his life, he looked downtrodden, old and weary. Like he had the weight of the world on his shoulders. If he did have a love back then, she would have made him happy despite what he was going through. We would have noticed the happiness back then. He wouldn't have appeared that way...but now he does.

And I for one am truly grateful for that. Life is too short to be angry, sad or depressed all the time...

Yep! You have just described the way I too saw his mood(off and on) during this era. He seemed very down, depressed, lonely, and broken. And to think, we saw him with more and different women than ever before. But he did not seem satisfied and it came across in alot of the songs and lyrics he released.

Just as a different more happier tone is coming across in the more recent song choices.

[Ashtanga]

Yep! You have just described the way I too saw his mood(off and on) during this era. He seemed very down, depressed, lonely, and broken. And to think, we saw him with more and different women than ever before. But he did not seem satisfied and it came across in alot of the songs and lyrics he released.

Just as a different more happier tone is coming across in the more recent song choices.


Hmmm very down, depressed, lonely, and broken? I never saw it that way. I look at Michael and I see a man strong and victorious in everything in life. Michael was just going through a difficult time, but inside it has always existed a great force that never lets you fall. Everything happened so he had an apprenticeship in his life, for he was stronger and more attentive to people around. Women ... feelings, a perfect combination. I am sure that Michael should be a very demanding man with women and I think he will not want "any" by your side that now has to be forever, has to be someone special, as well as him. I think Michael does not see women as most men. And also imagine that he see the feelings very seriously, especially the love that is so essential in people's lives today and that is not taken seriously by people. Human beings feel a great need to be loved for what is really inside, but people forget the inside and are concerned more with what is outside. Michael is a man completely different from other men in the world and this makes it very special in our eyes and the eyes of God. :)

[Moddie777]

Hmmm very down, depressed, lonely, and broken? I never saw it that way. I look at Michael and I see a man strong and victorious in everything in life. Michael was just going through a difficult time, but inside it has always existed a great force that never lets you fall. Everything happened so he had an apprenticeship in his life, for he was stronger and more attentive to people around. Women ... feelings, a perfect combination. I am sure that Michael should be a very demanding man with women and I think he will not want "any" by your side that now has to be forever, has to be someone special, as well as him. I think Michael does not see women as most men. And also imagine that he see the feelings very seriously, especially the love that is so essential in people's lives today and that is not taken seriously by people. Human beings feel a great need to be loved for what is really inside, but people forget the inside and are concerned more with what is outside. Michael is a man completely different from other men in the world and this makes it very special in our eyes and the eyes of God. :)


We will differ sometimes at how we percieve Michael. However, I do agree with you completely when you say; you think Michael does not see women as most men. And yes, I too feel he does have a great force from within. We can see it alot when he performs, hear it in his voice as he sings and sense it from his vibe albeit televised or in person for those of us who've been lucky enough to meet him.

A deeply spiritual person often times have a special aura about themselves. It is undeniable to the naked eye to others.

[Ashtanga]

We will differ sometimes at how we percieve Michael. However, I do agree with you completely when you say; you think Michael does not see women as most men. And yes, I too feel he does have a great force from within. We can see it alot when he performs, hear it in his voice as he sings and sense it from his vibe albeit televised or in person for those of us who've been lucky enough to meet him.

A deeply spiritual person often times have a special aura about themselves. It is undeniable to the naked eye to others.


Thanks! I thought you were not agreeing with me. lol! :wild: Well, Michael is without doubt a very special human being and am very happy for him being in our midst. He is a great example for us all. Michael has a great strength in it and is a very rarefy same as you said. When he is on the stage that we all force that is hidden within it to leave out. It is simply incredible. Michael Jackson is a living work of art! I am very proud to admire a person like this and hope that Michael will never change your way of being, it remains incredible that human being and a great example for us. :D

[AllForMJ]

did michael see her physically?
and did she know that michael is loving her?(i mean, not spiritual)
I think this song will answer your first question. In 2004, this love song was the very first one that MJ released onto the Internet in its entirety from "The Ultimate Collection" box set before the box set became available in stores.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-vhZWRRPlc

As for your second question, notice that MJ went from saying "If you see her, tell her this for me" in "One More Chance" to "She never knows" in "Beautiful Girl" to "Baby, you gotta know" in "For All Time."

If she didn't know at first, it would be hard for her to not know now, because MJ is being persistent. lol How cute and romantic is that?!

If you compare the type of love songs that he was releasing in 2001 to the ones that he is releasing now, there is a very noticeable difference in his tone. His love songs are now sending a much calmer message. He's not releasing love songs that sound like he's having doubts about the person that he's fallen in love with.

Imagine being him when he was feeling deprived of the type of love that a companion can bring. It must be a great feeling to have experienced the type of love that was being wished for, for so long, have in come into your life just when it was needed the most and also have it sustain you until the very end of your darkest hour. That's major and more than enough to make someone beam the way that he is beaming these days.

Look at him. When you look at this 2001 picture of him, you see a man that carries a facial expression that matches the type of love songs that he was putting out at the time.

http://i00.rnhh.de/eu/shared-images/filmdotcom/assets/rn/img/0/5/9/5/21865950-21865953-large.jpg

When you look at him in this recent picture, you can see that he is stronger than ever, can tell he feels content and you can feel his inner peace and you can't ignore that glow.

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/4696/mjcrop.jpg

He doesn't look like a man that still feels like no one understands him. It would be hard for someone to touch him deeply without knowing how. I think he's always wanted someone to do it, he just didn't want to be hurt by the one that would know how. Letting someone get close to him can be a scary thing because people usually try to control him afterwards. From reading his handwritten message, I think he was just hoping someone would bring positive changes into his life and just let him enjoy what they are doing. He seems to be pretty happy about it.

Can you imagine how good it must feel to be able to just let love do what it naturally does? He said all he needed was one more chance at love and from looking at him, this time it did turn out right. It strengthened him from the inside and it's showing on the outside.

So the love story continues, as the mystery unfolds...

:yes:

[LindaC781]

I think this song will answer your first question. In 2004, this love song was the very first one that MJ released onto the Internet in its entirety from "The Ultimate Collection" box set before the box set became available in stores.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-vhZWRRPlc

As for your second question, notice that MJ went from saying "If you see her, tell her this for me" in "One More Chance" to "She never knows" in "Beautiful Girl" to "Baby, you gotta know" in "For All Time."

If she didn't know at first, it would be hard for her to not know now, because MJ is being persistent. lol How cute and romantic is that?!

If you compare the type of love songs that he was releasing in 2001 to the ones that he is releasing now, there is a very noticeable difference in his tone. His love songs are now sending a much calmer message. He's not releasing love songs that sound like he's having doubts about the person that he's fallen in love with.

Imagine being him when he was feeling deprived of the type of love that a companion can bring. It must be a great feeling to have experienced the type of love that was being wished for, for so long, have in come into your life just when it was needed the most and also have it sustain you until the very end of your darkest hour. That's major and more than enough to make someone beam the way that he is beaming these days.

Look at him. When you look at this 2001 picture of him, you see a man that carries a facial expression that matches the type of love songs that he was putting out at the time.

http://i00.rnhh.de/eu/shared-images/filmdotcom/assets/rn/img/0/5/9/5/21865950-21865953-large.jpg

When you look at him in this recent picture, you can see that he is stronger than ever, can tell he feels content and you can feel his inner peace and you can't ignore that glow.

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/4696/mjcrop.jpg

He doesn't look like a man that still feels like no one understands him. It would be hard for someone to touch him deeply without knowing how. I think he's always wanted someone to do it, he just didn't want to be hurt by the one that would know how. Letting someone get close to him can be a scary thing because people usually try to control him afterwards. From reading his handwritten message, I think he was just hoping someone would bring positive changes into his life and just let him enjoy what they are doing. He seems to be pretty happy about it.

Can you imagine how good it must feel to be able to just let love do what it naturally does? He said all he needed was one more chance at love and from looking at him, this time it did turn out right. It strengthened him from the inside and it's showing on the outside.

So the love story continues, as the mystery unfolds...

:yes:

You see what I am talking about? That first picture shows a man who is pretty down. I just see someone who is depressed. Aw, maybe he just didn't feel like smiling then, but now he does...esp in the 2nd picture. The 2nd picture shows a man who is happy and secure. Probably secure in the fact that someone loves him for him....and he knows it.

[Safira]

You see what I am talking about? That first picture shows a man who is pretty down. I just see someone who is depressed. Aw, maybe he just didn't feel like smiling then, but now he does...esp in the 2nd picture. The 2nd picture shows a man who is happy and secure. Probably secure in the fact that someone loves him for him....and he knows it.

maybe a woman? maybe.. himself? (I hope both things:yes:)

[AllForMJ]

You see what I am talking about? That first picture shows a man who is pretty down. I just see someone who is depressed. Aw, maybe he just didn't feel like smiling then, but now he does...esp in the 2nd picture. The 2nd picture shows a man who is happy and secure. Probably secure in the fact that someone loves him for him....and he knows it.
Yep, he looks like he had a case of the blues in the first picture. Isn't is nice to see him feeling upbeat again?

Hey! :wild: Speaking of upbeat. Did you see his pants in the latest pix?!

http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=64980

Now if you can get him to wear them just a liiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiitle bit shorter... :giggle:


maybe a woman? maybe.. himself? (I hope both things:yes:)
Both is always a good thing! Oh yes indeed!

:yes:

[Safira]

Yep, he looks like he had a case of the blues in the first picture. Isn't is nice to see him feeling upbeat again?

Hey! :wild: Speaking of upbeat. Did you see his pants in the latest pix?!

http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=64980

Now if you can get him to wear them just a liiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiitle bit shorter... :giggle:


:o I like the jeans more.. and seeing these pictures makes me doubt the presence of a woman in his life.. because she would have demanded him to cut those nails!! :giggle:

lol I love the dude filming the last clip.. "I'm moonwalking here Michael! I'm moonwalking!"

[Lily]

Nice post AllForMJ. :flowers:

This picture right here OMG :swoon: :wub:

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/4696/mjcrop.jpg

[summer]

Nice post AllForMJ. :flowers:

This pictures right here OMG :swoon: :wub:

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/4696/mjcrop.jpg

I agree...he looks HOT!!! :woohoo: :woohoo: :stretcher :stretcher :girl_blush: :girl_blush: :girl_blush:

[Ashtanga]

Nice post AllForMJ. :flowers:

This pictures right here OMG :swoon: :wub:

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/4696/mjcrop.jpg
:wub::wub::wub:Michael is all beautiful... I love every bit of it...:wild::smilerolleyes:


What envy that girl... I can never get so close to Michael ... :(

[Moddie777]

AllforMJ, with your recent post of those two very different pics, I feel you have really captured the "change in mood" as well as a timeline.

You do such an awesome job at giving us a timeline. That is very important to the theory of this thread.

That first pic instantly reminded me of all the sad songs of longing he had been singing so much about.

And the second one instantly reminded me of his charm and flirtacious ways with us female fans, his comfortableness with women and all those sweet and loving clues he has given(lately) in his own words for his special someone.

[Sdeidjs]

Been lurking about, and find that it is absolutely amazing how in tune each of you are with your thoughts...

Many in society feel that Mr.Jackson is this weird, odd, mysterious human being...

However, as reality would have it...

If people would just take the time and "LISTEN" to the lyrics of Mr. Jackson's songs, reflections of thoughts, poems...

ALL the answers to the questions they seek have always been right in front of them.

"I don't sing it, create it, if I don't mean it..!"
Michael Jackson

:angel:Knowledge IS Growth

[TialovesMJ]

We will differ sometimes at how we percieve Michael. However, I do agree with you completely when you say; you think Michael does not see women as most men.

I Agree with what you said!!!I too think the same way...

[Moddie777]

I Agree with what you said!!!I too think the same way...


There you are! There's sweet MJbaba21. I thought I'd have to send out a swat team to loacate your whereabouts, lol.

Nice to see ya again.

[Ashtanga]

Many in society feel that Mr.Jackson is this weird, odd, mysterious human being...



Michael is no stranger. Most people think so they do not know anything about his life and his career. This is the fault of the tabloids. :evil: People read this stuff and believe in everything that is there. This is the big problem. All the people I know say that Michael is strange, bizarre and weird, but admits: "He is the greatest artist in the world." The problem is in the press and I think this will never change.


Mysterious human being... :scratch: Mystery is essential that he is an artist and artists tend to be mysterious by nature that everything about you and your life can not be an open book for people and the world. I think for any artist and Michael is very interesting to see that people are trying to unravel the mystery that is at that time that people show their thoughts and ideas on this artist. It is a way to see the artist as the others see you. But I think the mystery is an important ingredient in life, but it is essential to privacy, that celebrities have no privacy, it is invaded by the press and often unintentionally by fans. So much mystery shows that there is a great need to have a little or try to have some privacy in personal and professional life. Well, that is how I think about it. :yes:

[TialovesMJ]

There you are! There's sweet MJbaba21. I thought I'd have to send out a swat team to loacate your whereabouts, lol.

Nice to see ya again.

:rofl: :P lol!!! Yeah im stil here, just popin in here once in awhile lol! No need for a swat team heheh Im hereeeeeeeeeeeee :D.

[Sdeidjs]

Michael is no stranger. Most people think so they do not know anything about his life and his career. This is the fault of the tabloids. :evil: People read this stuff and believe in everything that is there. This is the big problem. All the people I know say that Michael is strange, bizarre and weird, but admits: "He is the greatest artist in the world." The problem is in the press and I think this will never change.


Mysterious human being... :scratch: Mystery is essential that he is an artist and artists tend to be mysterious by nature that everything about you and your life can not be an open book for people and the world. I think for any artist and Michael is very interesting to see that people are trying to unravel the mystery that is at that time that people show their thoughts and ideas on this artist. It is a way to see the artist as the others see you. But I think the mystery is an important ingredient in life, but it is essential to privacy, that celebrities have no privacy, it is invaded by the press and often unintentionally by fans. So much mystery shows that there is a great need to have a little or try to have some privacy in personal and professional life. Well, that is how I think about it. :yes:


PRIVACY is very important, should "always" be protected, and NEVER be jepardized..!

What happens between a man and a woman should remain PRIVATE no matter WHO we are...no ifs, ands or buts about it..!

:angel:Knowledge IS Growth~~~

[Ashtanga]

PRIVACY is very important, should "always" be protected, and NEVER be jepardized..!

What happens between a man and a woman should remain PRIVATE no matter WHO we are...no ifs, ands or buts about it..!

:angel:Knowledge IS Growth~~~


You're right. Privacy should be maintained forever. But, I was confused, I do not know whether you agreed or not agreed with me. lol! :wild:Sometimes I fly with my other posts. :yes: Sorry... :(
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[8701girl]

Nice post AllForMJ. :flowers:

This picture right here OMG :swoon: :wub:

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/4696/mjcrop.jpg


Gosh i love that top that mj is wearing...it looks so good on him :wild:

[MysteriousPhoenix]

Did MJ find love in the dark?
Did MJ find love in a park?
Did MJ find love on a boat?
Could MJ find love on a float?
Did MJ find love on a train?
Could MJ find love on a plane?
Did MJ find love in this nation?
Or just a blurry figment of his imagination?
Does MJ love jelly or jam on his toast?
Is his great love real or is she a ghost?
Will MJ find love in the future or present?
Could he fall in love with an old, homely peasant?
Does MJ eat beef, chicken or pork?
Could he find love in a clown or even a dork?
Would he serve her lemonade or even some sweet, brewed tea?
Would they eat real fancy or just have KFC?
Did MJ find love in his present or his past?
When MJ finds love ... will it be happy? will it last?

*Note* This poem was not meant to be taken seriously, so do not waste your brain cells trying to analyze it. It's not the "Bible Code" or anything, lol! Any resemblance to anyone living or dead is purely intentional. I just wanted to stop in and say, "hi" and I was also in a silly mood. (It is also my tribute to Dr. Seuss.):D

[Ape]

I heard Dr. Seuss in it :) Green Eggs and Ham to be precise.

Now I will set out to break this code of Mysterious Phoenix's that she is obviously just discounting as a cover up ;) .

Wait.. wait.. I think I've got it.. MJ Is in love with a DOCTOR!! :D

It is funny, I was just looking at the poetry thread in random thoughts and was about to post something but wanted to read this first. How enjoyable. I think we should have a day of rhyming on here like a musical. lol.. have you ever done that? Turned your day into a musical and sang everything just to be silly?

[MysteriousPhoenix]

Hey, Ape! There you are! I was just thinking about you and wondering what happened to you! It took one of my goofy poems to coax you out, eh? And yes, my poem finally solves the great mystery of weather or not MJ found love in the dark once and for all! I decided not to keep people in suspense any longer! You have to look very closely at ever word. The what, where, when, how, why and who of it - it's all right there! Just kidding! I wouldn't want anyone to waste their time like that, lol! I like your "musical" idea. We should pick a day when we will sing our theories on this thread!

[Ape]

Hahaha :D well for now here is another song to add. Guess it could be from his or her point of view. I just listened to it from my daughters songs and I really like it so I thought I'd share. ..and yes, it took one of your goofy poems to coax me out, I now expect you to rhyme every post of yours for the day! I seem to remember a time when you were pretty hard to coax out yourself ;) . Really though, I just didn't have internet for a week or so.

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[Ape]

BREAKING NEWS!!! I AM GOING TO BE IN A FILM!!!!!!!!! FEATURE length movie!!!!

I am so excited and I had to share the news. Just got the call from the producer moments ago. It's a really juicy good role. So happy. The director loved my audition, he said :D. Anyways. .. just wanted to share that with you guys in here cause I consider you all my mjjc friends. :D I'm happy.

You all will probably never see it cause it's just an independent film and may not get picked up but it may. Then I will be all shy and go into hiding probably if anyone were to see it, but for now I can shout it out!

Totally off topic but I had to share :)

[Love.him]

Well done, Ape. Can you tell us anything else about the role? Nice to end the week with some good news :)

[SoS]

-ah Ape, :clapping: Sweeeet!!! I got this notification in my email and had to respond right away b/c I know the feeling (a little bit kinda sorta lol). Well, a friend of mine made her big screen debut in Hairspray and we went to see it together and when her scene came up we both jumped up and screamed, it was so funny. That's really cool...I'm very excited for you. I guess I sort of know the feeling also with my extra part in Mama Flora's Family (a miniseries) a thousand years ago. It was more a psychic experience than anything 'cause the director stared at me throughout the shoot so I had a feeling I'd get a close-up and shore 'nough "Mr. DeMille" (Mr. Werner lol) did just that ... so yeh I do feelya. Hay, next thing we know you'll be in the "famous board members" thread :yes: (then you can be my mommee-mentor for creating a full-time creative career :cheeky: ) I know its an Indie but you just never know ... there's been some great ones released here lately. :yes: Its a new day when it comes to film. Anything's possible.

Congratulations, Dahlink !! :cheers:

[MysteriousPhoenix]

BREAKING NEWS!!! I AM GOING TO BE IN A FILM!!!!!!!!! FEATURE length movie!!!!


Yaaaaaaaay, Ape!!! Cogratulations!!! :clapping::clapping::clapping: This is so exciting!!! Now that you've made it to the big time, I hope you never forget your friends here at MJJC! LOL! We can say we knew you when! Cheers!:cheers:

[Ape]

Thank you guys!!! I was so excited. I was fully expecting him to say I'm sorry but we have decided you aren't right for the role but we enjoyed your audition. (Because I knew they at least did that). The director couldn't even look at me after the audition though, because it was a strong moment (cried and yelled). So I thought that was either a good thing, or bad. Guess it was good cause the producer told me he loved it. I'll be an alcoholic mom in it. I am really hoping there is no nudity though I'm supposed to be in a tub for one scene... and I forgot about that when I said "Of course I'd love to be in it"..lol. So either I have to really work at getting into shape soon, or hope there's lots of bubbles to hide behind. But I really have to insist on wearing something though. My gosh.. suddenly I'm nervous. Anyways the film is most easily explained to be about hope. It is called Tumaini, which is Swahili for Hope. I am not sure if I should say much more about it yet.
Well done, Ape. Can you tell us anything else about the role? Nice to end the week with some good news :)


-ah Ape, :clapping: Sweeeet!!! I got this notification in my email and had to respond right away b/c I know the feeling (a little bit kinda sorta lol). Well, a friend of mine made her big screen debut in Hairspray and we went to see it together and when her scene came up we both jumped up and screamed, it was so funny. That's really cool...I'm very excited for you. I guess I sort of know the feeling also with my extra part in Mama Flora's Family (a miniseries) a thousand years ago. It was more a psychic experience than anything 'cause the director stared at me throughout the shoot so I had a feeling I'd get a close-up and shore 'nough "Mr. DeMille" (Mr. Werner lol) did just that ... so yeh I do feelya. Hay, next thing we know you'll be in the "famous board members" thread :yes: (then you can be my mommee-mentor for creating a full-time creative career :cheeky: ) I know its an Indie but you just never know ... there's been some great ones released here lately. :yes: Its a new day when it comes to film. Anything's possible.

Congratulations, Dahlink !! :cheers:Oh! I wanna see it! You'll have to tell me how to find it and which one is your friend in Hairspray. Is that a new film? Did they redo it? That's awesome about the extra role though. I have never seen myself in the extra roles I've done. Never seen any of my acting because it's theatre usually. I watched for a year and never saw any of the episodes I was in for "Honey I shrunk the kids" the TV series.. It was painful because I watched many of them. Not my favorite show to sit through..lol.

We have a famous board members thread?? haha I'll have to go peek.


Yaaaaaaaay, Ape!!! Cogratulations!!! :clapping::clapping::clapping: This is so exciting!!! Now that you've made it to the big time, I hope you never forget your friends here at MJJC! LOL! We can say we knew you when! Cheers!:cheers:HAHAHAHA yeah wow, you never knew you had such talent in your midst didja ;) hehehe. I will try to remember to throw a pillow case out for you all :P.


I honestly don't even know how it will translate from play to film. I haven't even seen the script yet. I haven't seen any of the directors work, he's a film student at the moment so this is his first feature film. I only know they have plans to get it to Toronto Film Festival...which suddenly makes me nervous. I gotta do my part to see that it has a shot at doing well there. I really hope it won't look cheap and cheesy. I also hope that my big butt doesn't find it's way to the screen..HAHA ohh the horror that would be.

[MysteriousPhoenix]

HAHAHAHA yeah wow, you never knew you had such talent in your midst didja ;) hehehe. I will try to remember to throw a pillow case out for you all :P.


Yeah, how 'bout that! You're becoming a regular "Michael Jackson!";)

[Ape]

I knew you'd catch that :)

Sorry for hi-jacking the thread for a bit here but there wasn't much happening in here anyways lately.. oh...oh.. yes there was. There was an awesome poem by Mysterious Phoenix that solved the mystery. So now that it's all wrapped up I thought I would use this as a platform to spread the word about the film :D (how tacky hey? lol)

So this is the write up about it from the website. It's a topic I really like too, so pretty awesome.

Tumaini
By Steve Neufeld, Screenwriter

It is becoming impossible for Terry Bowman to reconcile his typical suburban lifestyle, with his first hand experience with extreme poverty. He is disappointed when Rene, his student, backs out of her plan to raise money to build a school in Kenya. Melody, his girlfriend, seems oblivious to his desire to make some serious sacrifices to make a difference. However, it is not until a hallucination in the form of a little Kenyan girl begins to haunt his classroom that he seriously doubts that he can teach highschool and live in the suburbs without being a hypocrite. His colleague Candace encourages him to follow his gut, but she is also vying for Terry’s affections. Meanwhile, Terry’s obsession is blinding him to Rene’s cries for help, as her incredible potential is squandered caring for her alcoholic mother. He begins to suspect that his vision, whose name is Tumaini, is there to convince him to engage in a more drastically humanitarian lifestyle, but when he starts moving in this direction, it finally dawns on him that he can have a huge impact on the world if he pours his desire for social justice, along with a lot of compassion and understanding, into his students.

[AllForMJ]

Well, well, well!! Congratulations on your really juicy good role, Ape!!! I was wondering where you had disappeared to!! Out auditioning, huh?!! Way ta go!!!

:clapping: :clapping:

[Ape]

:) well my internet was down for over a week so I was just doing things around the house, and auditioning too. It was just one audition, not even call backs. Thank you AllforMJ.


So.. I am now just waiting for my script. I'm so excited I think I could probably memorize it in a night but I have till September.

ok, bringing this thread back to topic.... well all I can say is I really hope we are on track for Michael Jackson and his lady love. I wish him total happiness and lots of love from someone that he loves in that special way.

[Ashtanga]

Wowwwwwwwww Ape!!!! :wild: :dancin:Congratulations! :clapping:


I did not know we had an actress here. I am in love with movies. We are all happy for you. Enjoy this chance well, may be a small role in the film, but no matter, what matters is that you did, you were, if attempted, it has made the test and got the role. You will learn a lot and I am sure will open many doors for you. Much luck to you! :yes: And tell us all how the film was (and if you want. Lol!) And when the film is ready let us know. From what I read the short summary of the script you posted the Steve Neufeld, I love! You will be Melody?

[SoS]

This story sounds astounding. I feel so sure its going to go over VERY well, it sounds like a beautiful story! I have extremely high hopes, not even so much for the fate of this project per se, as for the hearts of those who are touched by it to "pay it forward" in a natural way and just by sharing it, it will find an appreciative, and I believe, broad audience. There are more people with hearts I believe, than those without. I believe that those "without" "hearts" are really people who interpreted uncomfortable experiences as a signal to "reject" goodness and even some of the hardest cores can be touched, so I feel this is already a success. The great news, well two pieces of great news, - one is, the creators see you as integral to telling this beautiful story and that's wonderful, it means you know what to do, (what you did in the audition) so doing it is all that's required, and also the fact that they picked you! They did pick the right one - whether you're playing the mom (you're the alchololic u say? or did i remember that right?) or playing the dutiful daughter - you are the one and you're going to turn it out!! :dancin: just with your enthusiasm and concentration on the role. I can't say enough how excited I am for you!! Its the greatest experience, I know, what you're feeling just with the role alone. Every project gives some version of that wonderful feeling!

Um, as for my part, I'm too bashful to say on here lol probably shouldn't have brought it up - I'll PM anyone who asks tho. I'd say the same for my friend. She's pretty much like me, and she's done a lot of other work since then. It was the original Hairspray from the 80s, when we wuz chillun LOL! but she's silly "shy" like me lol - she just called a second ago too (love "coincidences"!) and I hadn't read this yet to ask her. Some actors are truly strange I guess. I know when I was doing plays before I put all that on pause - I would tell no one in my family. They always found out anyway lol just would by asking me what's going on... and insisted on coming.
Sorry I'm yapping ...well, flapping (fingers)

I'm so jazzed Ape. No need to apologize for going off topic I don't feel. It was entertaining enough and had kinda stalled, so this is good imho :) Thanks for sharing!


I knew you'd catch that :)

Sorry for hi-jacking the thread for a bit here but there wasn't much happening in here anyways lately.. oh...oh.. yes there was. There was an awesome poem by Mysterious Phoenix that solved the mystery. So now that it's all wrapped up I thought I would use this as a platform to spread the word about the film :D (how tacky hey? lol)

So this is the write up about it from the website. It's a topic I really like too, so pretty awesome.

Tumaini
By Steve Neufeld, Screenwriter

It is becoming impossible for Terry Bowman to reconcile his typical suburban lifestyle, with his first hand experience with extreme poverty. He is disappointed when Rene, his student, backs out of her plan to raise money to build a school in Kenya. Melody, his girlfriend, seems oblivious to his desire to make some serious sacrifices to make a difference. However, it is not until a hallucination in the form of a little Kenyan girl begins to haunt his classroom that he seriously doubts that he can teach highschool and live in the suburbs without being a hypocrite. His colleague Candace encourages him to follow his gut, but she is also vying for Terry’s affections. Meanwhile, Terry’s obsession is blinding him to Rene’s cries for help, as her incredible potential is squandered caring for her alcoholic mother. He begins to suspect that his vision, whose name is Tumaini, is there to convince him to engage in a more drastically humanitarian lifestyle, but when he starts moving in this direction, it finally dawns on him that he can have a huge impact on the world if he pours his desire for social justice, along with a lot of compassion and understanding, into his students.

[Ashtanga]

Did MJ find love in the dark?
Did MJ find love in a park?
Did MJ find love on a boat?
Could MJ find love on a float?
Did MJ find love on a train?
Could MJ find love on a plane?
Did MJ find love in this nation?
Or just a blurry figment of his imagination?
Does MJ love jelly or jam on his toast?
Is his great love real or is she a ghost?
Will MJ find love in the future or present?
Could he fall in love with an old, homely peasant?
Does MJ eat beef, chicken or pork?
Could he find love in a clown or even a dork?
Would he serve her lemonade or even some sweet, brewed tea?
Would they eat real fancy or just have KFC?
Did MJ find love in his present or his past?
When MJ finds love ... will it be happy? will it last?

*Note* This poem was not meant to be taken seriously, so do not waste your brain cells trying to analyze it. It's not the "Bible Code" or anything, lol! Any resemblance to anyone living or dead is purely intentional. I just wanted to stop in and say, "hi" and I was also in a silly mood. (It is also my tribute to Dr. Seuss.):D



Wow! I liked that, you show your poetic side here... and it was pretty funny too. lol! :D


Just a correction: "love is everywhere, just look around you carefully." :yes:


So, love can be found anywhere and anytime...;)


When MJ finds love ... will it be happy? will it last?

Yes!!!!!!!!!!! I have no doubt that: love and happiness forever!:yes:

[Love.him]

It looks like it will be a powerful story. Please keep us posted on how it turns out.


I knew you'd catch that :)

Sorry for hi-jacking the thread for a bit here but there wasn't much happening in here anyways lately.. oh...oh.. yes there was. There was an awesome poem by Mysterious Phoenix that solved the mystery. So now that it's all wrapped up I thought I would use this as a platform to spread the word about the film :D (how tacky hey? lol)

So this is the write up about it from the website. It's a topic I really like too, so pretty awesome.

Tumaini
By Steve Neufeld, Screenwriter

It is becoming impossible for Terry Bowman to reconcile his typical suburban lifestyle, with his first hand experience with extreme poverty. He is disappointed when Rene, his student, backs out of her plan to raise money to build a school in Kenya. Melody, his girlfriend, seems oblivious to his desire to make some serious sacrifices to make a difference. However, it is not until a hallucination in the form of a little Kenyan girl begins to haunt his classroom that he seriously doubts that he can teach highschool and live in the suburbs without being a hypocrite. His colleague Candace encourages him to follow his gut, but she is also vying for Terry’s affections. Meanwhile, Terry’s obsession is blinding him to Rene’s cries for help, as her incredible potential is squandered caring for her alcoholic mother. He begins to suspect that his vision, whose name is Tumaini, is there to convince him to engage in a more drastically humanitarian lifestyle, but when he starts moving in this direction, it finally dawns on him that he can have a huge impact on the world if he pours his desire for social justice, along with a lot of compassion and understanding, into his students.

[SoS]

:clapping:MP I also loved your poem! Nice take on Dr. Suess!! :yes: :D

[Ape]

Thank you guys again:) Ashtanga, the role of Melody won't actually be played. She is just talked about but not there. I don't think we even get to hear her on a phone or anything, just him talking on the phone (0r at least that's how the play was). I will be a mid 40's alcoholic single mother of four. From the website:

BRENDA ZELT:

Rene’s mother, in her mid-forties. She is the kind of person who always took life as it came, which resulted in a string of unhealthy relationships, leaving behind an alcoholic single mother of four seems. She has a vague hope that Rene could aspire to more, but can’t put it into words, let alone show Rene the way. She vacillates between wanting to push Rene out into the world and letting Rene nurse her through her illness. Usually, her neediness wins, but it always leaves her feeling guilty.

[No-Body]

CONGRATSSSSS, Ape!!! :clapping:That's sucha great news. The story is very, very touching. It should be a great movie.

Good luck with everything. Toronto Film Festival, eh? Sounds really good, all the best to you. :D

[cleopatra1975]

Congratulation APEEEEEEE! wow coolness.. i m sure it will be a great movie...hugggs

[Moddie777]

Congrats to you Ape!!!!!!! Nice going friend!

[TialovesMJ]

Congrats Ape :D :girl_dance:

[Ape]

:D thank you guys. I hope it is something I can be proud of when it's all put together. I just realized how how much the actors have to trust in the rest of production to make it all look good once they have done their part in giving a good performance.

Also thank you all for letting me share my news in here instead of some other topic. So I guess we can get back to the topic :)

Love :D... actually Love + MJ = even better

[Safira]

congratulations Ape :cheers:

[LindaC781]

Congratulations Ape!! Tell us when and where we may be able to see this? I live in Boston MA...will it be released there? Will this go to the Sundance Film Festival??

For those from another country, the Sundance Film Festival is this:

From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sundance_Film_Festival

he Sundance Film Festival is a film festival (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Film_festival) that takes place annually in the state of Utah (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utah), in the United States (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States). It is the largest independent (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_film) cinema festival in the U.S.<sup id="cite_ref-0" class="reference">[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sundance_Film_Festival#cite_note-0)</sup> Held in January in Park City (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Park_City,_Utah), Salt Lake City (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salt_Lake_City,_Utah), and Ogden (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ogden,_Utah), as well as the Sundance Resort (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sundance), the festival is the premier showcase for new work from American (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States) and international independent filmmakers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_film). The festival comprises competitive sections for American and international dramatic and documentary films (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Documentary_films), both feature-length films and short films, and a group of non-competitive showcase sections, including the New Frontier, Spectrum, and Park City @ Midnight.

The Sundance Film Festival was founded by Robert Redford.

It is the premiere place for all independent film....maybe Ape is our next big star!!

[Ape]

lol well I don't think I will be a big star, I just love to act. I am not young enough or thin enough to be a big star, but I will love to settle for an unknown who gets steady work. That would be wonderful.

The producer hasn't mentioned any other festivals. I don't know what it takes to get into the other ones. I know that he is in talks with a local theater to have it open here, but (I might have it wrong how it works too but what I got from what he said is...) he wants to have it in TFF first (Toronto) and if it gets picked up by some film company or whatever, then they won't be able to have it open here because we won't own it any longer. But if that happens, it means I get paid :D which would be nice too. Then it depends on what they want to do with it as to where it will be shown and how it can be seen and all that. That won't be till 2010 though. Probably fall.. or whenever the TFF is. I pick a lot of the movies I watch by whether it has won at Sundance or other festivals as well. Even if I've never heard of it before. If it has that sticker, it's usually a good sign. I'll let you all know what happens with it, even if it just fizzles out.
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[Ashtanga]

Thank you guys again:) Ashtanga, the role of Melody won't actually be played. She is just talked about but not there. I don't think we even get to hear her on a phone or anything, just him talking on the phone (0r at least that's how the play was). I will be a mid 40's alcoholic single mother of four. From the website:

BRENDA ZELT:

Rene’s mother, in her mid-forties. She is the kind of person who always took life as it came, which resulted in a string of unhealthy relationships, leaving behind an alcoholic single mother of four seems. She has a vague hope that Rene could aspire to more, but can’t put it into words, let alone show Rene the way. She vacillates between wanting to push Rene out into the world and letting Rene nurse her through her illness. Usually, her neediness wins, but it always leaves her feeling guilty.


Wow Ape! Brenda is a very strong character so I read. She had a difficult life. It will be a great experience for you to interpret this character. It appears that you have to put out all your emotions. We will be cheering for you all. I'm sure you will overcome interpreting this character. Hmmm I think I will be born a new star of cinema... But I do not know why I sympathize with the Melody. lol! I think that was the name, it is a pity it does not exist in the film. :( Hey, keep us informed about the film. And may God give you much luck! :yes::D:angel:





Congratulations Ape!! Tell us when and where we may be able to see this? I live in Boston MA...will it be released there? Will this go to the Sundance Film Festival??

For those from another country, the Sundance Film Festival is this:

From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sundance_Film_Festival (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sundance_Film_Festival)

he Sundance Film Festival is a film festival (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Film_festival) that takes place annually in the state of Utah (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utah), in the United States (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States). It is the largest independent (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_film) cinema festival in the U.S.<SUP class=reference id=cite_ref-0>[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sundance_Film_Festival#cite_note-0)</SUP> Held in January in Park City (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Park_City,_Utah), Salt Lake City (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salt_Lake_City,_Utah), and Ogden (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ogden,_Utah), as well as the Sundance Resort (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sundance), the festival is the premier showcase for new work from American (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States) and international independent filmmakers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_film). The festival comprises competitive sections for American and international dramatic and documentary films (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Documentary_films), both feature-length films and short films, and a group of non-competitive showcase sections, including the New Frontier, Spectrum, and Park City @ Midnight.

The Sundance Film Festival was founded by Robert Redford.

It is the premiere place for all independent film....maybe Ape is our next big star!!


Linda thanks for the information on the Sundance Film Festival. I did not know that was founded by Robert Redford. I already knew this festival that many Brazilian film work has involved him, but I do not remember now of any movie or documentary in Brazil that has participated. But always in a Brazilian festival. lol! :D It is a very important festival especially for those who are beginning their careers, many professionals in this area who work in an independent way, which today (is what I get here in Brazil) there are many independent films and documentaries. The festival opens many doors to the world of cinema. :yes:

[LindaC781]

Not to continue to veer too far off topic in this thread (do we do this here? Naw!! LOL!!)

Sonia Braga is a Brazilian actress....she and Robert Redford were hot and heavy at one point in their careers...

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c299/lilbigmutha/SoniaBraga_DeGuire_14262862.jpg

[8701girl]

lol well I don't think I will be a big star, I just love to act.

Well ape hun, if acting is what u love to do and it makes u happy- GO FOR IT!
If that is what ur heart tells u to do, do it! dont let anyone or anything tells u otherwise.

Like what my other fave singe christina aguilera says in one of her songs : WHAT YOU WAITING FOR? SPREAD YOUR WINGS & SOAR!!!

[Safira]

Well ape hun, if acting is what u love to do and it makes u happy- GO FOR IT!
If that is what ur heart tells u to do, do it! dont let anyone or anything tells u otherwise.

Like what my other fave singe christina aguilera says in one of her songs : WHAT YOU WAITING FOR? SPREAD YOUR WINGS & SOAR!!!

thats an amazing song! soar by christina aguilera. she is also one of my favorite singers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzgMNL6Ad-o

this song also has a pretty groovy bass, but you need to listen very carefully to pick it up..

quote/
What is it in us
That makes us feel the need
To keep pretending
Gotta let outsleves be
/quote

[Ashtanga]

Not to continue to veer too far off topic in this thread (do we do this here? Naw!! LOL!!)

Sonia Braga is a Brazilian actress....she and Robert Redford were hot and heavy at one point in their careers...

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c299/lilbigmutha/SoniaBraga_DeGuire_14262862.jpg


Yes Linda! Hey, you're almost a Brazilian! lol! :wild:

Sônia did many Brazilian soap operas, including "Gabriela Cravo e Canela" and "Tieta" which were based on the books of baiano author "Jorge Amado". She also made many films and most characters were sensual. Sônia is very well known abroad and his niece "Alice Braga" is trying to international career in cinema. Hmmm Brazilian soap operas are many and it is now abroad, mainly in Portugal. :yes:

[8701girl]

quote/[/i]
What is it in us
That makes us feel the need
To keep pretending
Gotta let outsleves be
/quote


Yep, i think all ppl should listen to those words- they are very powerful
I've stopped pretending to be someone im not. I've learned that do worry any more of what others say or think of me. So many in my life have constantly bagged and teased me coz im a mj fan, and always ask me "how can i like him"?

Well im not gonna stop loving mike or stop supporting him
I know this may sound strange to some but HE IS ME! his music , his legacy has been apart of my life & soul nearly since the day i was born. And IM NOT GONNA HIDE MY FANSHIP OF HIM FOR ANYONE OR ANYTHING!!

[Safira]

Yep, i think all ppl should listen to those words- they are very powerful
I've stopped pretending to be someone im not. I've learned that do worry any more of what others say or think of me. So many in my life have constantly bagged and teased me coz im a mj fan, and always ask me "how can i like him"?

Well im not gonna stop loving mike or stop supporting him
I know this may sound strange to some but HE IS ME! his music , his legacy has been apart of my life & soul nearly since the day i was born. And IM NOT GONNA HIDE MY FANSHIP OF HIM FOR ANYONE OR ANYTHING!!

I think these words can meen more than to just stup pretending.
It's also telling that you are ok as you are. You don't need all this stuff to be an exiting and wonderfull person. You are YOU and thats fantastic :yes:
Being fan of MJ is just a spice to your personality (a very handsome spice that is!)

[8701girl]

I think these words can meen more than to just stup pretending.
It's also telling that you are ok as you are. You don't need all this stuff to be an exiting and wonderfull person. You are YOU and thats fantastic :yes:
Being fan of MJ is just a spice to your personality (a very handsome spice that is!)
Yes a very fun & exciting personality indeed! :D

[Safira]

Yes a very fun & exciting personality indeed! :D

:giggle:

[Ashtanga]

Being fan of MJ is just a spice to your personality (a very handsome spice that is!)
:wild::wild::wild:

I loved what you said Safira! It is amazing that every song of Michael teaches something about life and especially about feelings. :yes: I always learn a lot with Michael and that is why every day I thank God for this wonderful human being that Michael is. :D:wub:

[Safira]

:wild::wild::wild:


I loved what you said Safira! It is amazing that every song of Michael teaches something about life and especially about feelings. :yes: I always learn a lot with Michael and that is why every day I thank God for this wonderful human being that Michael is. :D:wub:


:D I remember a radio interview with Michael where he said that he feel so humble whenever people say that he's a great artist and that they respect and honor him for what he has acomplished. He feel that this honor and respect should go to the one true creator - god.

And so he is practically saying that he is nothing less or more than everyone else in this world.

(but he is still very handsome..!)

[8701girl]

:D I remember a radio interview with Michael where he said that he feel so humble whenever people say that he's a great artist and that they respect and honor him for what he has acomplished. He feel that this honor and respect should go to the one true creator - god.

And so he is practically saying that he is nothing less or more than everyone else in this world.

(but he is still very handsome..!)

This is one of the many reasons why i love this man
He defnately does bring god in his work and his soul
You can literally see god in his eyes, and mike brings god's love to us and shows the way to make this world full of love and kindess.

[Sdeidjs]

:angel:Knowledge IS Growth...Education IS the Key~~~

:cheers:

[8701girl]

:angel:Knowledge IS Growth...Education IS the Key~~~

:cheers:
That is very true, i only wish i could have taken that quote with me while i was at school. Me & school didnt go well together! :lol:

[Ashtanga]

:D I remember a radio interview with Michael where he said that he feel so humble whenever people say that he's a great artist and that they respect and honor him for what he has acomplished. He feel that this honor and respect should go to the one true creator - god.

And so he is practically saying that he is nothing less or more than everyone else in this world.
That is the truth. God has a great talent to Michael, a beautiful voice and a great ability to dance. All came from God together with much dedication from Michael to do his best ever work. Sometimes I am wondering how Michael should be thrilled to learn that he is a great example for his fans. And what I realized and understand over the years that Michael is the only artist who is so loved by his fans. I do not know another artist who is as beloved as he. Michael is without doubt the most talented artist that the world could know and that will be forever in the history of music. It is impossible to talk about pop music without talking about Michael Jackson. Ever there another artist like him. :yes:





(but he is still very handsome..!)

Yes! Michael is all that and a little more. Their physical and inner beauty is more than anything in this world. And together beyond all limits and so it is a very enigmatic person, sweet, loving and with a look and most sincere smile I know. Michael is a very special human being and blessed by God. :yes::wub:

[8701girl]

That is the truth. God has a great talent to Michael, a beautiful voice and a great ability to dance. All came from God together with much dedication from Michael to do his best ever work. Sometimes I am wondering how Michael should be thrilled to learn that he is a great example for his fans. And what I realized and understand over the years that Michael is the only artist who is so loved by his fans. I do not know another artist who is as beloved as he. Michael is without doubt the most talented artist that the world could know and that will be forever in the history of music. It is impossible to talk about pop music without talking about Michael Jackson. Ever there another artist like him. :yes:




I am yet to find fans of other artists who have the same loyal love as we mj fans do for mj.....We mj fans are very special indeed :D

[Ashtanga]

I am yet to find fans of other artists who have the same loyal love as we mj fans do for mj.....We mj fans are very special indeed :D


Yes, we are special as Michael. :D:wub:

[8701girl]

Yes, we are special as Michael. :D:wub:

:D :wub:

[SoS]

No one's been doing any song analyses for a while now :giggle:

I want to let y'all know this is to be my final "book" among my last few posts, and I'm saying it here in this thread because so many of you that I know on the board come here and I don't want you PMing me expecting a response because I won't be here and I don't want anyone feeling I've abandoned you.

I've asked the mods to help me figure out how to disable my account for a while. Too much going on in my life right now. :blush: and tbh, it's too much like a full blown "addiction" for me at this point. My long postings, getting all enwrapped in somebody else's life - its really not me to do that nor is it 'serving' my life ... at all :lol: - up all hours of the night like a crack head zombie - oh sorry :giggle: - and its not like "the man" needs my lil ole' self lol,

so with that said,

I'll continue to get periodic updates in a newsletter via my email and will surely lurk in the News thread from time to time so don't think that I'm not caring for our man. I'll just have to go back to knowing that God is doing His thing for MJ. Prayer and fellowship was what brought me to MJJF in the beginning. Hopefully it won't be needed again but if it is, I'll be right here :)

I do hope you all will keep the romance flowing :wub: :wub: - at least until MJ comes out with some "bomshell news" about his actual real life lol as he's always done via the covers of magazines or the DL or whatever.

Also just to let you know, whether this thread is on track or not, I have given myself a plausible enough "story" to leave with so that I don't have to wonder what's going on in the thread LOL

I guess the long and short of "my" version of the storyline is that in the end, nobody knows anything! :lol: and maybe never will.

I've realized too I guess, that with all our different 'takes' on any possible "storyline" that seems to flow throughout the songs, throughout the years, there are differring schools of thought which lends to too many possibilities.

Mine basically is the "IF" school of thought - meaning "IF" there's a single theme running, starting as far back as the song that started this conversation, leading up to the last songs released, then that person is probably someone MJ feels/felt some very special way about for his reasons which only he knows and will ever know, maybe like a 'muse' that helped him through somehow and inspires some songs.

Also while I love the spirit of this thread and the idea that there's one piece of fabric in this story (if only being woven by us! lol using the threads of MJ's music as our tapestry) I've also felt that its very unlikely that the story is quite the way it seems, meaning communicated in song to someone MJ is expecting to be listening over a period of years and who he someday expects to "be with" - all this presumes to me they have no other form of communication - and as he goes on living his real life getting his very real needs met. Unlike some, male and female, MJ'll never be short of someone to "be with" we all know that, and relationships naturally develop, we also all know that. . . so I guess I'm just saying, it seems to me like common sense so to speak that it kinda doesn't altogether compute imho, y'know - keepin' it real on his behalf.

I don't know about you all but there's an "image" that I've always had of the "perfect" woman for MJ, for one, someone as rarely beautiful as he is inside and out, and someone who he sees as being just as dropdead gorgeous as he is also ! but looks aside, (which I'd imagine are pretty important to him since he loves visual art) someone he can have at least 8 more babies with lol that's what I got stuck in my head that he wanted a thousand years ago as its always been well publicized that he LOVES children :wub: and obviously loves being a daddy. One of the things about kids growing up is you need new ones to replace them!! :lol: anyway, its his life and I am all for whatever he does with it.

And also, I feel I got the answer I was looking for which attracted me to this thread in the first place, which is, did MJ find love in the dark, and I can feel rest assured that based on the music, he did find love somehow in the dark (whether literal or metaphoric) and oh how sweet is my final thought on it. There's not telling what that "means" or doesn't "mean" imho.

And finally, yes indeed, (as posted prior) MJ fans are surely and truly a special bunch :yes: truly are


while I don't mean to be making this some "long goodbye" lol - I just know tho that there's one or two of you who'd eventually miss me (u know who u are and so do I :) ) so please email me if ever need be - and I'll email you - and I hope that any one on here who's ever posted will feel free to stay in touch as well - y'know - send me your contact info or sth

I have to go to bed now, I'm about to pass out. Its been an extremely long day. You guyz truly ROCK and I'll miss you!!

PLEASE keep paying attention to the music. You guyz have stimulated so many different ways of looking at things. There's no telling how much MJ will reveal that he's learned since 2004 so keep the Faith you ole' romantics you!!! but I do also say, stay open.

lol AllforMJ, thanks for this distraction for the past couple years lol, its served a great purpose of lifting my spirits at times of pressure and/or fatigue. Besides, I think we all really know who it was that MJ "found" love in the dark with :shifty:

:giggle: j/k j/k well he was "alone in the dark" when he met a special young lady we all know and love! (u did say he was wearing black?) lol

*makes way for the door*

*waves frantically from door at AllforMJ*

I'm waiting for the mods response regarding my account right now, so until then, - I'm sure I'll catch you guyz 'round the bend -

Love Yous All Immensely

p.s. (or is it p.p.s. at this point)

Its in a lull now but please keep the thread going - there are many more songs and also, you know MimiK will eventually come back and enlighten you guys on his 'take' as well. That oughtta be interesting.

oh well,

*passes out as head hits keyboard - snoring with one eye open*

... cyooo guys later, g'nite

[Safira]

No one's been doing any song analyses for a while now :giggle:

I want to let y'all know this is to be my final "book" among my last few posts, and I'm saying it here in this thread because so many of you that I know on the board come here and I don't want you PMing me expecting a response because I won't be here and I don't want anyone feeling I've abandoned you.

I've asked the mods to help me figure out how to disable my account for a while. Too much going on in my life right now. :blush: and tbh, it's too much like a full blown "addiction" for me at this point. My long postings, getting all enwrapped in somebody else's life - its really not me to do that nor is it 'serving' my life ... at all :lol: - up all hours of the night like a crack head zombie - oh sorry :giggle: - and its not like "the man" needs my lil ole' self lol,

so with that said,

I'll continue to get periodic updates in a newsletter via my email and will surely lurk in the News thread from time to time so don't think that I'm not caring for our man. I'll just have to go back to knowing that God is doing His thing for MJ. Prayer and fellowship was what brought me to MJJF in the beginning. Hopefully it won't be needed again but if it is, I'll be right here :)

I do hope you all will keep the romance flowing :wub: :wub: - at least until MJ comes out with some "bomshell news" about his actual real life lol as he's always done via the covers of magazines or the DL or whatever.

Also just to let you know, whether this thread is on track or not, I have given myself a plausible enough "story" to leave with so that I don't have to wonder what's going on in the thread LOL

I guess the long and short of "my" version of the storyline is that in the end, nobody knows anything! :lol: and maybe never will.

I've realized too I guess, that with all our different 'takes' on any possible "storyline" that seems to flow throughout the songs, throughout the years, there are differring schools of thought which lends to too many possibilities.

Mine basically is the "IF" school of thought - meaning "IF" there's a single theme running, starting as far back as the song that started this conversation, leading up to the last songs released, then that person is probably someone MJ feels/felt some very special way about for his reasons which only he knows and will ever know, maybe like a 'muse' that helped him through somehow and inspires some songs.

Also while I love the spirit of this thread and the idea that there's one piece of fabric in this story (if only being woven by us! lol using the threads of MJ's music as our tapestry) I've also felt that its very unlikely that the story is quite the way it seems, meaning communicated in song to someone MJ is expecting to be listening over a period of years and who he someday expects to "be with" - all this presumes to me they have no other form of communication - and as he goes on living his real life getting his very real needs met. Unlike some, male and female, MJ'll never be short of someone to "be with" we all know that, and relationships naturally develop, we also all know that. . . so I guess I'm just saying, it seems to me like common sense so to speak that it kinda doesn't altogether compute imho, y'know - keepin' it real on his behalf.

I don't know about you all but there's an "image" that I've always had of the "perfect" woman for MJ, for one, someone as rarely beautiful as he is inside and out, and someone who he sees as being just as dropdead gorgeous as he is also ! but looks aside, (which I'd imagine are pretty important to him since he loves visual art) someone he can have at least 8 more babies with lol that's what I got stuck in my head that he wanted a thousand years ago as its always been well publicized that he LOVES children :wub: and obviously loves being a daddy. One of the things about kids growing up is you need new ones to replace them!! :lol: anyway, its his life and I am all for whatever he does with it.

And also, I feel I got the answer I was looking for which attracted me to this thread in the first place, which is, did MJ find love in the dark, and I can feel rest assured that based on the music, he did find love somehow in the dark (whether literal or metaphoric) and oh how sweet is my final thought on it. There's not telling what that "means" or doesn't "mean" imho.

And finally, yes indeed, (as posted prior) MJ fans are surely and truly a special bunch :yes: truly are


while I don't mean to be making this some "long goodbye" lol - I just know tho that there's one or two of you who'd eventually miss me (u know who u are and so do I :) ) so please email me if ever need be - and I'll email you - and I hope that any one on here who's ever posted will feel free to stay in touch as well - y'know - send me your contact info or sth

I have to go to bed now, I'm about to pass out. Its been an extremely long day. You guyz truly ROCK and I'll miss you!!

PLEASE keep paying attention to the music. You guyz have stimulated so many different ways of looking at things. There's no telling how much MJ will reveal that he's learned since 2004 so keep the Faith you ole' romantics you!!! but I do also say, stay open.

lol AllforMJ, thanks for this distraction for the past couple years lol, its served a great purpose of lifting my spirits at times of pressure and/or fatigue. Besides, I think we all really know who it was that MJ "found" love in the dark with :shifty:

:giggle: j/k j/k well he was "alone in the dark" when he met a special young lady we all know and love! (u did say he was wearing black?) lol

*makes way for the door*

*waves frantically from door at AllforMJ*

I'm waiting for the mods response regarding my account right now, so until then, - I'm sure I'll catch you guyz 'round the bend -

Love Yous All Immensely

p.s. (or is it p.p.s. at this point)

Its in a lull now but please keep the thread going - there are many more songs and also, you know MimiK will eventually come back and enlighten you guys on his 'take' as well. That oughtta be interesting.

oh well,

*passes out as head hits keyboard - snoring with one eye open*

... cyooo guys later, g'nite

:bugeyed:bugeyed:bugeyed no not godbye SoS! :cry: I hate godbyes!
god bless you, and thanks for everything you've written in this thread!
This last post of yours is a good "dot" for all your posts together :yes:
Also a very wise post, and thoughts that I've had myself these past weeks too..

But you take care SoS! :)

[8701girl]

Awww state dont leave..we all will miss you very very much :( :cry:But thank you for all the analysing and everything else that youhave done for us. You will be sadly missed :(. Untill we hear from you again u take care ok, may god bless you with all his love & greatness always. BYE BYE SOS!

[Ashtanga]

No one's been doing any song analyses for a while now :giggle:

I want to let y'all know this is to be my final "book" among my last few posts, and I'm saying it here in this thread because so many of you that I know on the board come here and I don't want you PMing me expecting a response because I won't be here and I don't want anyone feeling I've abandoned you.

I've asked the mods to help me figure out how to disable my account for a while. Too much going on in my life right now. :blush: and tbh, it's too much like a full blown "addiction" for me at this point. My long postings, getting all enwrapped in somebody else's life - its really not me to do that nor is it 'serving' my life ... at all :lol: - up all hours of the night like a crack head zombie - oh sorry :giggle: - and its not like "the man" needs my lil ole' self lol,

so with that said,

I'll continue to get periodic updates in a newsletter via my email and will surely lurk in the News thread from time to time so don't think that I'm not caring for our man. I'll just have to go back to knowing that God is doing His thing for MJ. Prayer and fellowship was what brought me to MJJF in the beginning. Hopefully it won't be needed again but if it is, I'll be right here :)

I do hope you all will keep the romance flowing :wub: :wub: - at least until MJ comes out with some "bomshell news" about his actual real life lol as he's always done via the covers of magazines or the DL or whatever.

Also just to let you know, whether this thread is on track or not, I have given myself a plausible enough "story" to leave with so that I don't have to wonder what's going on in the thread LOL

I guess the long and short of "my" version of the storyline is that in the end, nobody knows anything! :lol: and maybe never will.

I've realized too I guess, that with all our different 'takes' on any possible "storyline" that seems to flow throughout the songs, throughout the years, there are differring schools of thought which lends to too many possibilities.

Mine basically is the "IF" school of thought - meaning "IF" there's a single theme running, starting as far back as the song that started this conversation, leading up to the last songs released, then that person is probably someone MJ feels/felt some very special way about for his reasons which only he knows and will ever know, maybe like a 'muse' that helped him through somehow and inspires some songs.

Also while I love the spirit of this thread and the idea that there's one piece of fabric in this story (if only being woven by us! lol using the threads of MJ's music as our tapestry) I've also felt that its very unlikely that the story is quite the way it seems, meaning communicated in song to someone MJ is expecting to be listening over a period of years and who he someday expects to "be with" - all this presumes to me they have no other form of communication - and as he goes on living his real life getting his very real needs met. Unlike some, male and female, MJ'll never be short of someone to "be with" we all know that, and relationships naturally develop, we also all know that. . . so I guess I'm just saying, it seems to me like common sense so to speak that it kinda doesn't altogether compute imho, y'know - keepin' it real on his behalf.

I don't know about you all but there's an "image" that I've always had of the "perfect" woman for MJ, for one, someone as rarely beautiful as he is inside and out, and someone who he sees as being just as dropdead gorgeous as he is also ! but looks aside, (which I'd imagine are pretty important to him since he loves visual art) someone he can have at least 8 more babies with lol that's what I got stuck in my head that he wanted a thousand years ago as its always been well publicized that he LOVES children :wub: and obviously loves being a daddy. One of the things about kids growing up is you need new ones to replace them!! :lol: anyway, its his life and I am all for whatever he does with it.

And also, I feel I got the answer I was looking for which attracted me to this thread in the first place, which is, did MJ find love in the dark, and I can feel rest assured that based on the music, he did find love somehow in the dark (whether literal or metaphoric) and oh how sweet is my final thought on it. There's not telling what that "means" or doesn't "mean" imho.

And finally, yes indeed, (as posted prior) MJ fans are surely and truly a special bunch :yes: truly are


while I don't mean to be making this some "long goodbye" lol - I just know tho that there's one or two of you who'd eventually miss me (u know who u are and so do I :) ) so please email me if ever need be - and I'll email you - and I hope that any one on here who's ever posted will feel free to stay in touch as well - y'know - send me your contact info or sth

I have to go to bed now, I'm about to pass out. Its been an extremely long day. You guyz truly ROCK and I'll miss you!!

PLEASE keep paying attention to the music. You guyz have stimulated so many different ways of looking at things. There's no telling how much MJ will reveal that he's learned since 2004 so keep the Faith you ole' romantics you!!! but I do also say, stay open.

lol AllforMJ, thanks for this distraction for the past couple years lol, its served a great purpose of lifting my spirits at times of pressure and/or fatigue. Besides, I think we all really know who it was that MJ "found" love in the dark with :shifty:

:giggle: j/k j/k well he was "alone in the dark" when he met a special young lady we all know and love! (u did say he was wearing black?) lol

*makes way for the door*

*waves frantically from door at AllforMJ*

I'm waiting for the mods response regarding my account right now, so until then, - I'm sure I'll catch you guyz 'round the bend -

Love Yous All Immensely

p.s. (or is it p.p.s. at this point)

Its in a lull now but please keep the thread going - there are many more songs and also, you know MimiK will eventually come back and enlighten you guys on his 'take' as well. That oughtta be interesting.

oh well,

*passes out as head hits keyboard - snoring with one eye open*

... cyooo guys later, g'nite


Hey, I was feeling homesick for your books. I am so sorry for that. But if you need to stay out for a while, do so. I hope you remember here and when you can come back. We will miss you for your posts. Whatever, I'll wring that God bless you and wish you much luck on his way. :angel::yes::D


*Hey, were not 13 children that Michael would like to have? lol! :scratch:So still 10 babies! lol! :wild:
Michael finds that his true love, he is truly loved and give him the chance to be a father again, it gives many children to him!:wub: (I'm sure Michael will find this person so special about it... God is watching it!):yes:

[8701girl]

What Michael is a woman



huh?!.....:blink: :huh:

[Ashtanga]

huh?!.....:blink: :huh:


Awwwwwwwwwwwww required by the alert! :yes: I wrote at... Imagine: it is morning in Brazil, I'm Brazilian, people speaking in Portuguese and I still have to think in Portuguese and English at the same time... :wild: the times that causes a great confusion of ideas in my head. :D

Sorry for the error!

[8701girl]

^ that ok :D

[Safira]

that was funny :lol:

[Ashtanga]

that was funny :lol:
:lol::smilerolleyes:

[Ape]

Well I know I am sure going to miss you on here SOS. If you happen to read this one last time before the account get's put on hold for you, then I hope you read this. Please keep in touch via email, and I'll even email you my home number in case you just need a friend to talk to someday(or in case I do).

That's the biggest reason I love this thread is because of the socializing and friendship of the people in here..and the dreaming and ideas and romance and even just giving the old brain something to work on, constructive or not. Sometimes things felt much like a riddle to figure out. It always felt like the never ending sleepover in here, or girls night out. Your parting post summed things up nicely. Though it will be sad not having you come around so often, it is probably a good thing for you in the long run to focus on what matters most in your life. It sounds like you are ready to take action instead of allowing yourself to be distracted. I wonder what stage I'm at...lol. Somewhere in the middle I think.

Thank you for taking the time to share all this with us and explaining. I'll miss you here but I'm proud of you too. .. and we have to keep in touch.<input id="gwProxy" type="hidden"><!--Session data--><input onclick="jsCall();" id="jsProxy" type="hidden">

[cleopatra1975]

i will miss you SOS ! huggs take care of you

[MysteriousPhoenix]

I want to let y'all know this is to be my final "book" among my last few posts, and I'm saying it here in this thread because so many of you that I know on the board come here and I don't want you PMing me expecting a response because I won't be here and I don't want anyone feeling I've abandoned you.

:(:(:(

[SoS]

:(:(:( aw :hug: you just keep those great poems going


i will miss you SOS ! huggs take care of you :hug: you too cleo and u keep asking those pointed questions :)


Well I know I am sure going to miss you on here SOS. If you happen to read this one last time before the account get's put on hold for you, then I hope you read this. Please keep in touch via email, and I'll even email you my home number in case you just need a friend to talk to someday(or in case I do).

That's the biggest reason I love this thread is because of the socializing and friendship of the people in here..and the dreaming and ideas and romance and even just giving the old brain something to work on, constructive or not. Sometimes things felt much like a riddle to figure out. It always felt like the never ending sleepover in here, or girls night out. Your parting post summed things up nicely. Though it will be sad not having you come around so often, it is probably a good thing for you in the long run to focus on what matters most in your life. It sounds like you are ready to take action instead of allowing yourself to be distracted. I wonder what stage I'm at...lol. Somewhere in the middle I think.

Thank you for taking the time to share all this with us and explaining. I'll miss you here but I'm proud of you too. .. and we have to keep in touch.<input id="gwProxy" type="hidden"><!--Session data--><input onclick="jsCall();" id="jsProxy" type="hidden">
aw Ape :hug: I'm gonna miss you too and yes, we can continue to email eachother anytime and maybe you'll keep me updated on our favorite "saga" :cheeky:


Hey, I was feeling homesick for your books. I am so sorry for that. But if you need to stay out for a while, do so. I hope you remember here and when you can come back. We will miss you for your posts. Whatever, I'll wring that God bless you and wish you much luck on his way. :angel::yes::D

oh gosh :hug: what a sweet thing to say about my War & Peace - like posts - you just keep those encouraging poems going Girl, they make a great difference for the soul


*Hey, were not 13 children that Michael would like to have? lol! :scratch:So still 10 babies! lol! :wild:

Yes, you're right about that 13 children thing! lol I don't know why I was thinking 11 - maybe that's because I think he'd said he wanted to have at least as many as his dad plus 1 or something like that lol but yeh, thirteen babies is right :yes:

Michael finds that his true love, he is truly loved and give him the chance to be a father again, it gives many children to him!:wub: (I'm sure Michael will find this person so special about it... God is watching it!):yes:


Yes, you're right - God is watching it all :yes:

Ashtanga :hug: sorry I messed up the quote function - my responses are ^ in there and thanks Sweetie, please feel free to email me anytime -


Awww state dont leave..we all will miss you very very much :( :cry:But thank you for all the analysing and everything else that youhave done for us. You will be sadly missed :(. Untill we hear from you again u take care ok, may god bless you with all his love & greatness always. BYE BYE SOS! aw :hug: thanks Sweetie for the love.


:bugeyed:bugeyed:bugeyed no not godbye SoS! :cry: I hate godbyes!
god bless you, and thanks for everything you've written in this thread!
This last post of yours is a good "dot" for all your posts together :yes:
Also a very wise post, and thoughts that I've had myself these past weeks too..

But you take care SoS! :) Safira :hug: I'll miss you too and I hate goodbyes too which is why I don't say "goodbye" per se - I don't believe in "goodbye" - I just believe in I've got to back up, regroup and get silent for a while to rebalance things at home. Thanks for the compliments btw - that was very sweet of you to say :hug:

I'm gonna be online a few more days then by the weekend I'll be off. If anyone wants to keep me updated or just wants to say hello, please feel free to email me and thanks for the PMs and well wishes! I love you all very much. This is a very special experience, one I'll never forget nor regret, and not to mention the fact that, I'll be back.

Leaving hugs for all who have contributed to the stimulation of thoughts that have opened up our minds, hearts and spirits - AllforMJ, moddie777, Renata, queen_g, mjzz (gosh i can't think of how that's spelled out right now but the one with one or two 'z's in it lol but u know, that interp of Heartbreaker and Threatened I think it was), Sdjiedjs (oh man! i can't think of how its spelled ... Suze you know!! thanks for your upliftments all the time) Summer (thanks for the laughs), Babe don't sit back to far - the wings y'know lol) Love.Him, mystygirl, mysterygirl, Lily, msfairy (u offered a totally unique dimension and thanks for that), Shabuya (loved that poem/lyrics u shared one time), the infamous poet MimiK, the reluctant participant poefiend lol, eu ci cu min or something like that ... goodness I can't remember all right now please forgive me if it should have been an obvious mention, just EVERYBODY that has made this journey through MJ's songs so refreshing and satisfying. Y'all just don't know maaan, me and my big brother used to do this stuff as a pasttime! lol truly and my brother had to leave home and there was NOBODY else I could do it with ...

then I found you guyz :wub: :giggle: so serious

so thank you and thank you AllforMJ

oh maaan! and haven't we all learned so much about love from one another! Love Is Forever that's what I got out of all this - whatever form it comes in - and romance has its place for sure and I feel we should all enjoy it for what it is for as long as we can 'cause its on a time limit in some cases shorter or longer than we could ever expect, depending on things - an hour :cheeky: a month a year a decade or two ... and life goes on. Meanwhile ...

the "saga" does continue ... as the mysteries unfold ... :) so y'all come with some more songs

I'll be on a few days to visit a couple threads then I'll c'yall when I get back :) Thanks again for all the love. Love you guyz too :yes: :) :flowers: :flowers: :flowers: :flowers: :flowers: :flowers: :flowers: Y'all so ROCK, truly. And YES MJ found love in the dark. It was a concert - a series of concerts with thousands off screaming fans all around. They were his first love :wub: :wub: :wub: :wub: :wub: :wub: and they've been in love with him ever since and he's in love with all of his fans. One thing he'll never have a shortage of, is love, especially now that he's attracted even more fans by sharing his life.

He can have a thousand babies if he wants :lol: there's always a new generation ..

enough. lol check y'all later on :cheeky:

[AllForMJ]

No one's been doing any song analyses for a while now :giggle:

I want to let y'all know this is to be my final "book" among my last few posts, and I'm saying it here in this thread because so many of you that I know on the board come here and I don't want you PMing me expecting a response because I won't be here and I don't want anyone feeling I've abandoned you.

I've asked the mods to help me figure out how to disable my account for a while. Too much going on in my life right now. :blush: and tbh, it's too much like a full blown "addiction" for me at this point. My long postings, getting all enwrapped in somebody else's life - its really not me to do that nor is it 'serving' my life ... at all :lol: - up all hours of the night like a crack head zombie - oh sorry :giggle: - and its not like "the man" needs my lil ole' self lol,

so with that said,

I'll continue to get periodic updates in a newsletter via my email and will surely lurk in the News thread from time to time so don't think that I'm not caring for our man. I'll just have to go back to knowing that God is doing His thing for MJ. Prayer and fellowship was what brought me to MJJF in the beginning. Hopefully it won't be needed again but if it is, I'll be right here :)

I do hope you all will keep the romance flowing :wub: :wub: - at least until MJ comes out with some "bomshell news" about his actual real life lol as he's always done via the covers of magazines or the DL or whatever.

Also just to let you know, whether this thread is on track or not, I have given myself a plausible enough "story" to leave with so that I don't have to wonder what's going on in the thread LOL

I guess the long and short of "my" version of the storyline is that in the end, nobody knows anything! :lol: and maybe never will.

I've realized too I guess, that with all our different 'takes' on any possible "storyline" that seems to flow throughout the songs, throughout the years, there are differring schools of thought which lends to too many possibilities.

Mine basically is the "IF" school of thought - meaning "IF" there's a single theme running, starting as far back as the song that started this conversation, leading up to the last songs released, then that person is probably someone MJ feels/felt some very special way about for his reasons which only he knows and will ever know, maybe like a 'muse' that helped him through somehow and inspires some songs.

Also while I love the spirit of this thread and the idea that there's one piece of fabric in this story (if only being woven by us! lol using the threads of MJ's music as our tapestry) I've also felt that its very unlikely that the story is quite the way it seems, meaning communicated in song to someone MJ is expecting to be listening over a period of years and who he someday expects to "be with" - all this presumes to me they have no other form of communication - and as he goes on living his real life getting his very real needs met. Unlike some, male and female, MJ'll never be short of someone to "be with" we all know that, and relationships naturally develop, we also all know that. . . so I guess I'm just saying, it seems to me like common sense so to speak that it kinda doesn't altogether compute imho, y'know - keepin' it real on his behalf.

I don't know about you all but there's an "image" that I've always had of the "perfect" woman for MJ, for one, someone as rarely beautiful as he is inside and out, and someone who he sees as being just as dropdead gorgeous as he is also ! but looks aside, (which I'd imagine are pretty important to him since he loves visual art) someone he can have at least 8 more babies with lol that's what I got stuck in my head that he wanted a thousand years ago as its always been well publicized that he LOVES children :wub: and obviously loves being a daddy. One of the things about kids growing up is you need new ones to replace them!! :lol: anyway, its his life and I am all for whatever he does with it.

And also, I feel I got the answer I was looking for which attracted me to this thread in the first place, which is, did MJ find love in the dark, and I can feel rest assured that based on the music, he did find love somehow in the dark (whether literal or metaphoric) and oh how sweet is my final thought on it. There's not telling what that "means" or doesn't "mean" imho.

And finally, yes indeed, (as posted prior) MJ fans are surely and truly a special bunch :yes: truly are


while I don't mean to be making this some "long goodbye" lol - I just know tho that there's one or two of you who'd eventually miss me (u know who u are and so do I :) ) so please email me if ever need be - and I'll email you - and I hope that any one on here who's ever posted will feel free to stay in touch as well - y'know - send me your contact info or sth

I have to go to bed now, I'm about to pass out. Its been an extremely long day. You guyz truly ROCK and I'll miss you!!

PLEASE keep paying attention to the music. You guyz have stimulated so many different ways of looking at things. There's no telling how much MJ will reveal that he's learned since 2004 so keep the Faith you ole' romantics you!!! but I do also say, stay open.

lol AllforMJ, thanks for this distraction for the past couple years lol, its served a great purpose of lifting my spirits at times of pressure and/or fatigue. Besides, I think we all really know who it was that MJ "found" love in the dark with :shifty:

:giggle: j/k j/k well he was "alone in the dark" when he met a special young lady we all know and love! (u did say he was wearing black?) lol

*makes way for the door*

*waves frantically from door at AllforMJ*

I'm waiting for the mods response regarding my account right now, so until then, - I'm sure I'll catch you guyz 'round the bend -

Love Yous All Immensely

p.s. (or is it p.p.s. at this point)

Its in a lull now but please keep the thread going - there are many more songs and also, you know MimiK will eventually come back and enlighten you guys on his 'take' as well. That oughtta be interesting.

oh well,

*passes out as head hits keyboard - snoring with one eye open*

... cyooo guys later, g'nite
Wait a minute! What?!! *spittin' out koolaid* LOL

STATEofSHOCK, you're headin' out?! We only have a couple of weeks to go and then Mr. Man is gonna step out on that stage! I mean, I now you do have to keep things balanced and all, but can you hang out on and off with us at least until July 13th?! Huh? Can ya can ya, huh? LOL

I know it's gonna take some serious will power to not chit chat and chat and chit with your peeps in cyberspace, but can you keep your account active until Mike goes "Lights! Camera! Action!" just so that you can celebrate with us if you want to?!

Ahhhhhh mannnnn!! My gurl is cuttin' out!! LOL

You know...with the song interpretations and things...I had put it on pause for a minute because of the different things that were poppin' up on the heels of each other with our boy and then of course I've gotta kick it with my sons because school was ending and things, ya know how that goes!! Now that things have calmed down a little bit and you are about to cut out lol looks like I betta wrap up the interpretations qui-zick!! So I only got a few days, huh and then my gurl is gone?!! LOL!!

You gotta handle yours, tho, SOS. I fully understand. I've pulled back before too. Just had to do that to let my brain recharge. Plus, it's important to stay on top of things on the home side of the computer. That's a priority! I applaud you! I really do!. I'm also gonna MISS YOU!!! Ahhhhh mannnnn. STATE is about to cut as of this week!!

And you KNOW I was laughin' at your good-bye post, right?! See, why you gotta leave like that?! Have folks crackin' up and thangs?! That's why it's hecka hard to say good-bye, STATE!! Ooooooooo!! :lol:

I hope I didn't come into the thread too late!! Did you already sign off, gurl?!! :lol:

[8701girl]

aw :hug: thanks Sweetie for the love, I appreciate it and don't forget - my email - same as my IM, is in the contact info on my profile or if you want to make a note of it now its ajayell7@aim.com



Thanks for your email. will defnately email u sometime :D

[Ashtanga]

Ashtanga :hug: sorry I messed up the quote function - my responses are ^ in there and thanks Sweetie, please feel free to email me anytime -




Thanks! :D I miss you to read their "books" here. :yes: Thanks for saying that when I want I can write it. I hope you do not get much time away. We are one big family here. We discuss our ideas here and everyone has different thoughts about MJ find love in the dark, but a friendship and union between us. When you can come visit us. Again I wish much luck to you and that God always bless you and enlighten your path and all the angels of heaven are always around you! :angel:

[Love.him]

When I read your first message, I thought you were gone already. Just wanted to say I've enjoyed reading your "books" :) ; you will be missed & not just in this thread.

Take care & I hope you get to see Michael in the States :flowers:


aw :hug: you just keep those great poems going - I'm assuming my email is in my contacts but if not its ajayell7@aim.com - that goes for everyone who's posted - I disabled IMs tho, just so you guyz know. Ladies feel free to keep me updated if the thread comes to some kind of clmax or something lol

:hug: you too cleo and u keep asking those pointed questions :)


aw Ape :hug: I'm gonna miss you too and yes, we can continue to email eachother anytime and maybe you'll keep me updated on our favorite "saga" :cheeky:


Ashtanga :hug: sorry I messed up the quote function - my responses are ^ in there and thanks Sweetie, please feel free to email me anytime -

aw :hug: thanks Sweetie for the love, I appreciate it and don't forget - my email - same as my IM, is in the contact info on my profile or if you want to make a note of it now its ajayell7@aim.com

Safira :hug: I'll miss you too and I hate goodbyes too which is why I don't say "goodbye" per se - I don't believe in "goodbye" - I just believe in I've got to back up, regroup and get silent for a while to rebalance things at home. Thanks for the compliments btw - that was very sweet of you to say :hug:

I'm gonna be online a few more days then by the weekend I'll be off. If anyone wants to keep me updated or just wants to say hello, please feel free to email me and thanks for the PMs and well wishes! I love you all very much. This is a very special experience, one I'll never forget nor regret, and not to mention the fact that, I'll be back.

Leaving hugs for all who have contributed to the stimulation of thoughts that have opened up our minds, hearts and spirits - AllforMJ, moddie777, Renata, queen_g, mjzz (gosh i can't think of how that's spelled out right now but the one with one or two 'z's in it lol but u know, that interp of Heartbreaker and Threatened I think it was), Sdjiedjs (oh man! i can't think of how its spelled ... Suze you know!! thanks for your upliftments all the time) Summer (thanks for the laughs), Babe don't sit back to far - the wings y'know lol) Love.Him, mystygirl, mysterygirl, Lily, msfairy (u offered a totally unique dimension and thanks for that), Shabuya (loved that poem/lyrics u shared one time), the infamous poet MimiK, the reluctant participant poefiend lol, eu ci cu min or something like that ... goodness I can't remember all right now please forgive me if it should have been an obvious mention, just EVERYBODY that has made this journey through MJ's songs so refreshing and satisfying. Y'all just don't know maaan, me and my big brother used to do this stuff as a pasttime! lol truly and my brother had to leave home and there was NOBODY else I could do it with ...

then I found you guyz :wub: :giggle: so serious

so thank you and thank you AllforMJ

oh maaan! and haven't we all learned so much about love from one another! Love Is Forever that's what I got out of all this - whatever form it comes in - and romance has its place for sure and I feel we should all enjoy it for what it is for as long as we can 'cause its on a time limit in some cases shorter or longer than we could ever expect, depending on things - an hour :cheeky: a month a year a decade or two ... and life goes on. Meanwhile ...

the "saga" does continue ... as the mysteries unfold ... :) so y'all come with some more songs

I'll be on a few days to visit a couple threads then I'll c'yall when I get back :) Thanks again for all the love. Love you guyz too :yes: :) :flowers: :flowers: :flowers: :flowers: :flowers: :flowers: :flowers: Y'all so ROCK, truly. And YES MJ found love in the dark. It was a concert - a series of concerts with thousands off screaming fans all around. They were his first love :wub: :wub: :wub: :wub: :wub: :wub: and they've been in love with him ever since and he's in love with all of his fans. One thing he'll never have a shortage of, is love, especially now that he's attracted even more fans by sharing his life.

He can have a thousand babies if he wants :lol: there's always a new generation ..

enough. lol check y'all later on :cheeky:

[LindaC781]

SOS - I am going to miss you as well!! Take care, and I understand. This forum and this topic are addicting. I just can't wait for MJ to come out with new music...music we can all pick apart and wonder who he's singing to ....

[Ashtanga]

I just can't wait for MJ to come out with new music...music we can all pick apart and wonder who he's singing to ....


For the love... Michael always sing about love. :wub:

[8701girl]

^ yes he does :D

MICHAEL IS LOVE! :wub:

[Lisha]

:popcorn:

[Safira]

beautifull words. And I have been thinking about this thread.
I hope Michael found love.. I hope he died happy..
oh I can't understand that this man that we speak of is no longer among us..

[Lily]

:cry:

[SoS]

Hello to all here. :better:

You know, this thread has always been about love, hasn't it?

Michael wished for a love that was so divine,

and there is no greater divine romance or love than the Love he is experiencing right now in heaven with Jesus... the truest, purest, form of Love that no earthy love or romance could ever match up to.

I'm so very glad that God made it work out for Michael (and for us to learn, for it helps us) that he had such a happy, happy night at reheasals the night before he was taken to be with the Lord. But even that amount of happiness he felt that night does not compare to the happiness he is feeling now. God's incomparable Love is what Michael is on the receiving end of right now in full force!

There will be no more pain, and no more shame, and no more anxiety or fears, and no more worries in heaven, only Peace, and Comfort, and Love, and great Joy. I am so happy for you, Michael!

Thank you, Lord, for giving that gift of heaven to Michael, and thank you for giving us here the privilege of loving this very special and beautiful man. It is through Your amazing grace that Michael, or any of us, can have this greatest blessing of all...to be called one of your own. :wub:

God is Love. Michael has always been about Love. And now God is giving all His Love to Michael in heaven.

A Love so Divine.
Perfect.

[Ashtanga]

queen g you were perfect. Thank you for these beautiful words. They gave us a little comfort. We are sad, hurt... is much pain. But I am still devastated by the case. It is impossible to believe what happened. Michael left too early. I feel he had much to accomplish. Sometimes it is difficult to understand certain things that God does in our lives. :(

[friend]

Hello to all here. :better:

You know, this thread has always been about love, hasn't it?

Michael wished for a love that was so divine,

and there is no greater divine romance or love than the Love he is experiencing right now in heaven with Jesus... the truest, purest, form of Love that no earthy love or romance could ever match up to.

I'm so very glad that God made it work out for Michael (and for us to learn, for it helps us) that he had such a happy, happy night at reheasals the night before he was taken to be with the Lord. But even that amount of happiness he felt that night does not compare to the happiness he is feeling now. God's incomparable Love is what Michael is on the receiving end of right now in full force!

There will be no more pain, and no more shame, and no more anxiety or fears, and no more worries in heaven, only Peace, and Comfort, and Love, and great Joy. I am so happy for you, Michael!

Thank you, Lord, for giving that gift of heaven to Michael, and thank you for giving us here the privilege of loving this very special and beautiful man. It is through Your amazing grace that Michael, or any of us, can have this greatest blessing of all...to be called one of your own. :wub:

God is Love. Michael has always been about Love. And now God is giving all His Love to Michael in heaven.

A Love so Divine.

i know he'd agree with every word. ty for the post. it's like he is speaking through it....

[Ape]

I wondered how we could post in here again and that was the perfect post. Thank you queen g. So true and so comforting to read. Somehow I feel at peace. I wonder if it is this thought that brings it or if it still hasn't fully hit me. But maybe even when it does, this thought makes it happy instead of sad.


Some lyrics that popped into my head while reading that post:

I've searched for the perfect love all my life
All My Life
Ooh feels like
I have finally found a perfect love this time
I have finally found

Finally find the perfect love I search for all my life
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[wendijane]

absoluelty beautuful posts ^ all of them :huggy:

[FUJON]

:cry: :heart:

[TialovesMJ]

I love the posts!!

MJ will be missed !! :cry:

[you_rock_my_world]

:cry: RIP MJ I LOVE U HONEY.

[SoS]

Now MJ has found love in the Light.

[8701girl]

Now MJ has found love in the Light.


Yes he has..AMEN!:angel:

[starone_angel]

:cry: God knows how much I miss you, my dear Michael!

[mystygrl]

:cry: God knows how much I miss you, my dear Michael!

I am without words. But, here is a song that Smokey Robinson dedicated to one of the Temptations. I find it appropriate for Michael at this time. Please take a listen:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMnhDNrw13Y

[summer]

"Oh, I believe... you and I...could never really say goodbye...Where ever you may be....I'll look up and see...someone in the dark for me"...


I will miss you SO MUCH, Michael...words can never express how much! :cry: :cry: I will always love you FOR ALL TIME! :cry:

[SoS]

I have a question for you girls of the "love in the dark" thread

In all of the songs where he asked "her" to respond, to put "her" hand out, to "make this dream come true" - to stop walking away, running away, resisting, being invincible and all - do you feel if she had come sooner, that things would be different right now? I know it is something only God knows tho,

or do u think maybe she was about to try to find a way to be there for/with him, finally after all this time, and he expected that, which is why his faith was resurrected in the more recent songs, why he said, "I haven't left you alone" after "all this time away" and he loved "the way" she loved him, with "real love" -

presuming based on these things that he had no reason for being discouraged ?

I don't expect you all to answer right away, and maybe its a bit inappropriate somehow, to even ask, I just want to know what someone else would say ... i guess cause i'm wonderin' about this myself

my answer is, for now, i don't know

[summer]

I have no idea. It seemed Michael was so happy during the last months....it is so tragic he was taken away from us. :cry: IF there was a "someone in the dark"...it is even more tragic if he died just when things started to go right. :cry: If Michael died because someone did something to him or because the doctor didn't know what he was doing, it is going to tear my heart apart. :cry:

[8701girl]

I have a question for you girls of the "love in the dark" thread

In all of the songs where he asked "her" to respond, to put "her" hand out, to "make this dream come true" - to stop walking away, running away, resisting, being invincible and all - do you feel if she had come sooner, that things would be different right now? I know it is something only God knows tho,



Maybe if she had come to him...he might have been saved. I dont think mike ever really had "a real love" well not after lisa marie anyway. I think somewhere inside him was missing her deeply, and i feel like he wanted that sort loving relationship more than anything. But i think coz mike felt ppl misunderstood him so much ....not sure if he trusted love ( well relationship sort of love) anymore. Poor mike :cry:

[SoS]

I asked because of that line that says, "this life don't last forever, so tell me what we're waiting for"

It almost sounds like a cry for help, or a warning of some sort, like he was feeling vulnerable due to knowing what all he was up against and what all he had been through already, like he was getting tired and tired of enduring it alone - or - maybe its just me - it just gives me shivers every time I think of that line in that song.

[8701girl]

I asked because of that line that says, "this life don't last forever, so tell me what we're waiting for"

It almost sounds like a cry for help, or - maybe its just me.


It could be...i guess now we'll never know :(

[SoS]

:( :boohoo:

[8701girl]

:( :boohoo:
:better: :better: :better:

[you_rock_my_world]

:cry: :boohoo:

[wendijane]

:cry: :boohoo:


:better: :better: :better:

:cry: :boohoo:

[SoS]

after all the looking at it from "her" perspective that was done ..

just couldn't help but wonder ..

this whole thing is just ... its just too ... there just aren't any words to describe this ..

[Ashtanga]

I am devastated with it. I still can not believe that Michael is dead. God is sometimes cruel to us and he was very cruel to all the fans who love both Michael, your family and your beautiful children. Michael was so young, I was so happy and I think he had much to achieve in life, especially in your career and see their children grow. He could find true love, is truly loved, to marry again, be happy and maybe have more children. It is so sad. I do not accept. For me it would take a long time to happen. The death of Michael was quick, strange and unexpected. And I know that there is something wrong about it all I hope that everything is clear and informed. The press goes saying that he was addicted to drugs. I have read many stories and I know that will appear much more ahead. Not after Michael's death is not peace. I'm sure Michael was not addicted to drugs, his life was his children, they are your priority, then Michael would think before they do anything. I am very confused with everything and I understand what really happened on June 25.

[you_rock_my_world]

hugs to you. :)




:better: :better: :better:

:cry: :boohoo:

[AllForMJ]

It's all so hard to believe. I mean, I always knew this day would come one day, because death is a part of life, but it just seemed like MJ was going to leave at a much later time.

It's really hard to believe that all of this is happening and that it can't be undone. I'm going to miss Mike sooo much.

[TialovesMJ]

:cry:

[SoS]

It's all so hard to believe. I mean, I always knew this day would come one day, because death is a part of life, but it just seemed like MJ was going to leave at a much later time.

It's really hard to believe that all of this is happening and that it can't be undone. I'm going to miss Mike sooo much.Yes it is and so many questions flood the mind. I have wondered whether God needed to set some people straight in the matter of "idol worship". If maybe folks had gone too far in worshiping the creation more than The Creator or if God was trying to make a point to Michael not to allow others to "worship" him instead of the One Who made Him.

Then I recall the time God used Michael to point me to God's word, in my very early 20s while reading a magazine and I have always seen Michael give God the glory for the music. I do realize however that there are many who see Michael as "the only true God" as demonstrated by taking the very lives God gave them when Mike left.

I always knew death was a part of life too and knew it would happen some day, its just that I'd forgotten that God seems to sometimes randomly remind us that tomorrow is not promised, and sometimes He does it at a time when we feel the most 10000% absolute certainty, about tomorrow.

I also know however that God's word says that "unforseen occurrance befalls them all" in the book of Ecclesiastes and maybe that's all this actually amounts to as far as why why why God oh why and how could this be.

[Safira]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scdm5il-hC4&feature=related

Here With Me // Dido
I didnt hear you leave
I wonder how am I still here
I dont want to move a thing
It might change my memory
Oh I am what I am
Ill do what I want
But I cant hide
I wont go
I wont sleep
I cant breathe
Until youre resting here with me
I wont leave
I cant hide
I cannot be
Until your resting here with me

I dont want to call my friends
They might wake me from this dream
And I cant leave this bed
Risk forgetting all thats been

Oh I am what I am
Ill do what I want
But I cant hide
I wont go
I wont sleep
I cant breathe
Until youre resting here with me
I wont leave
I cant hide
I cannot be
Until your resting here with me

[Lily]

I hope his heart was happy. :cry:

[Safira]

I feel like singing along with all sorts of emotional music, whilst thinking of Michael.. I hope he can feel it.. I hope he can feel our love even better from the heaven.. :heart:

[Sdeidjs]

I hope his heart was happy. :cry:

:angel:I have NO doubt that it is/was~~~

[Safira]

I wonder.. what was Michaels favorite disney movie? I know that he liked to watch cartoons, so he must have had a favorite disney.. I find comfort in the stranges things.. To view that movie.. That would make me feel him a little more alive inside me..

and don't tell me it was peter pan.. was it?

[Sdeidjs]

To my nearest and dearest best friend Mr.Michael Jackson,

YOU will forever and always be in my heart, in my soul~~~

As "promised", I will not only "continue" to complete what YOU and I started...Psalm 37..!

But will "contiune" to help YOU complete your legacy of God's work..!

I KNOW YOU are smiling upon me/us from Heaven...this is for YOU Sweetheart: Giggles~~~



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[SoS]

I wonder.. what was Michaels favorite disney movie? I know that he liked to watch cartoons, so he must have had a favorite disney.. I find comfort in the stranges things.. To view that movie.. That would make me feel him a little more alive inside me..

and don't tell me it was peter pan.. was it?
Pirates of the Carribbean may be one. Before he built Neverland he had the ride for it installed at Hayvenhurst because it was his favorite Disney ride.

[Safira]

Pirates of the Carribbean may be one. Before he built Neverland he had the ride for it installed at Hayvenhurst because it was his favorite Disney ride.

aah I see.. very good movies!..

I hope that this thread will somehow survive after all this..
It was such a good thread for throwing your thoughts in the air and waiting for someone to catch them..

I also feel like something is missing here at mjjc now.. or rather.. someone..
I always had HIM in mind when I wrote something.. Not that it made me talk any different, but I was always hoping that he would read just that post.. if it had any importance that is..

[summer]

I hope his heart was happy. :cry:

Same here. And I really really REALLY hope he knew how dearly loved he was. I really hope he knew how much we love him. :cry: It feels so surreal that after seven long years....I get to see him once more...and then three months after that he is gone. And it is both good and bad that I got to see him. Good because I was able to "experience the magic" once more before he was taken away from us. I got to see him one more time, and I got to show him how much I love and admire him. And I got to see him with his kids and saw how much he loved them. For all that, I feel blessed and thank God I got to see him one more time. But then on the other hand it makes it even more difficult to let go, because I just saw him. He was closer than ever before and now he won't be coming back. And it just breaks my heart. :cry:



I wonder.. what was Michaels favorite disney movie? I know that he liked to watch cartoons, so he must have had a favorite disney.. I find comfort in the stranges things.. To view that movie.. That would make me feel him a little more alive inside me..

and don't tell me it was peter pan.. was it?

I know about the comfort thing. I went to a bookstore today and pretty much the first book that was "staring" me in the face was a book about Michaelangelo. So of course my first thought was "Michael loved Michaelangelo". So I started leafing through it and it was interesting and I also thought Michael would have loved it, so I bought it.

[8701girl]

I still cantbelive hes gone..:(

[summer]

I still cantbelive hes gone..:(

Me neither. :cry:

[8701girl]

Me neither. :cry:


:better: :better: :better: :better:

[Ape]

I keep writing things to post, then end up not posting. I just wanted to send something in here, even if it isn't meaningful or moving or anything. Truth is, I just don't know what to say.