Did MJ Find Love In The Dark (continued)

[Ashtanga]

Well, now the tears die in my smile.
Thank you, eyes washed with tears and a huge smile.
Michael, I LOVE youuu!


http://mjjgallery.free.fr/2009/thisisit/trailers/034.jpg
So, thank you, I'll give back that he is with open arms (which gives me the feeling of freedom - also remember the quote of wings lol - and also open chest .. reminds me of sincerity)
Ready to embrace us ...
As we dream. :girl_in_love:
Now >>>>>> :D

Thanks for those sweet words... and that beautiful smile of the Michael can not resist. :wub:


Hey, Michael hold on tight because I'm running to hug you tight. lol! :wild: :wub: :girl_in_love:





Justus also does this very well. Miss his words too
Yes.... and the Justus disappeared. :scratch: :( I expect it to appear here soon. :)

[Lainy]

Thank you. Amazing how this song makes me not forget my roots.
We can not let the day-to-day make us forget the emotions, feelings ...

Another thing my attention: the impression of the intensity of feelings for Michael. Something like always willing to never leave us alone, in several songs he says: "Just call my name and I'll be there."
Makes me dream that it can really listen to hear our prayers, he can really feel how much we love him, even if not to make the idea of our existence.
Amazing what love can achieve.

MICCCCCCCCCHHHHAAAAAAAEEEEEEEEEEL ...
Just calling your name again...


Awww Rubi, you almost made me cry now. :(

I wholeheartedly agree.
Thanks for those words :flowers:

God bless all. :)

[Ashtanga]

Just to have a good beginning of week:

JErVP6xLZwg

:wub:


And....


A beautiful painting by Donald Zolan for this week be blessed:


http://s54.radikal.ru/i143/0808/f3/4c1ee451036f.jpg

:wub:


I'm sure Michael would love this painting. :yes: :wub:

[No-Body]

you know.. Michael will always be there for you. Just put his music on and he is right there. When I feel alone and like "why do I loose people that I love all the time" then I just look at different positive pictures of Michael and listen to his songs. Then it's like a hug that comforts me and tells me that it will be ok soon..

That is the bonus of being a fan of someone like Michael Jackson.

Wonderful words Safira, God bless you. I know it's all so very hard, but we gotta be strong, there ain't no choice really. As heartbreaking as all of this is, we must carry on, be strong and stand together trying to live out Michael's beautiful message of love for the world and for each other.

MJ fans truly are special people; it takes a certain kind of mold to really listen to Michael and to stand by him no matter what. At the same time, i also believe pretty much everybody on the planet is a fan, whether they admit it or not - there cannot be at least one song, one dance, one video or one lyric they did not enjoy from the man; they are simply stubborn to admit it. For many of them it took June 25th 2009 to recognize it and some still need some time, but they will get there, i know they will :)

Ash, thank you so much for the Nat King Cole song - used to hear it on commercials breaks for the NBA games many, many years ago lol. The painting is beautiful as well. I totally agree with you, Michael would love it.

About the topic of this thread - within the last few weeks i saw several times Brian Adam's vid for Have you ever really loved a woman? from the OST of "Don Juan de Marco" movie featuring Johnnie Depp and Marlon Brando. All them masks got me thinking of that time when Michael wore that cute lil thingie with the hat and the bright blue Indian shirt. I remember that at the time people were calling him Zorro, what if he was actually Don Miguel? *giggles* Silly lil' question, i know, it matches me, i guess. Anyways, here's the vid, it is a beautiful song indeed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hq2KgzKETBw

And since Ash started out the week so beautifully, may we continue to do so. Here's Jimmy Cliff's I can see clearly now from the "Cool runnings" soundtrack. I loooove that movie - i highly recommend it for anyone going through a bad time, lovely piece of a little movie. It's about the adventures of the get this - Jamaican bob sleigh team - at some fictitious Olympic games. Really funny and really touching.

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God bless ya everyone.

P.S. Meant to thank tha as well for the wonderful Richie Sambora song the other day. The airhead i am forgot to mention it last time around; really beautiful, obrigado :)

[tha]

"Oi"!

I'm glad you liked the Richie's video! Almost all the Richie's songs makes me thinking in Michael and I would like to share with you just one more song of him that I love so much and I hope you all like it too! ;)

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And Shabuya, I loved your "obrigado"! ^^ I can see a little piece from Brazil in you! :)

Lully, so nice to see you here! I miss you a lot, honey! :heart:

Well, I wish you a great monday....just one day later 10 months without him....! :sad:



("Can I find a place within to live my life without you?" :cry: )


Kisses in your heart!

[Ashtanga]

Ash, thank you so much for the Nat King Cole song - used to hear it on commercials breaks for the NBA games many, many years ago lol. The painting is beautiful as well. I totally agree with you, Michael would love it.
Thanks!!! :D

OMG!!!! :doh: Really? I did not know! lol! :wild:

This song is so cute. I love her. :wub:




And since Ash started out the week so beautifully, may we continue to do so. Here's Jimmy Cliff's I can see clearly now from the "Cool runnings" soundtrack. I loooove that movie - i highly recommend it for anyone going through a bad time, lovely piece of a little movie. It's about the adventures of the get this - Jamaican bob sleigh team - at some fictitious Olympic games. Really funny and really touching.

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I love this song and Jimmy Cliff. :wild: I have some cd's of him at house. I remember when I started studying English, this was the first song we translate in school. lol! :doh: Yes, this makes a certain time. lol! -_-

Thanks for posting and for making me return to the past. lol! :D :wild:



Hey, I was thinking this painting called "The Tango" by Richard Zolan (brother of Donald Zolan). :wild:


http://ideiasemdesalinho.blogs.sapo.pt/arquivo/The%20Tango_Richard%20Zolan.jpg


Tango is sooooooooooooo sexy and romantic :wild:, this painting has everything to do with love and seduction. :wub:

I am imagining now Michael dancing tango. lol! :doh: :wild: :wub:

[MysteriousPhoenix]

Did MJ find love in the dark?

Maybe he ought to turn the light on! heehee!:cheeky:


Just stopping by to say "hi" and that I like eveyone's posts!

[Ashtanga]

Did MJ find love in the dark?

Maybe he ought to turn the light on! heehee!:cheeky:


Just stopping by to say "hi" and that I like eveyone's posts!
:tease:


:D


:cheeky:

[tha]

Did MJ find love in the dark?

Maybe he ought to turn the light on! heehee!:cheeky:


Just stopping by to say "hi" and that I like eveyone's posts!

ha ha ! It would be really better! :lol:

[Ashtanga]

ha ha ! It would be really better! :lol:
ha! ha! ha! :lol:

Maybe Michael was in need of a big flashlight to be able to see the love in the dark. lol! :wild:

Hey, people always say that our true love is very near us... :doh: :yes: :wub:

[tha]

ha! ha! ha! :lol:

Maybe Michael was in need of a big flashlight to be able to see the love in the dark. lol! :wild:

Hey, people always say that our true love is very near us... :doh: :yes: :wub:

Yeah! That's right!! I don't know what else I can do to make him see that I am his true love! :doh: :wub:

[Ashtanga]

Yeah! That's right!! I don't know what else I can do to make him see that I am his true love! :doh: :wub:
:unsure:

:doh: What?????? lol!


Not you! I am! :wild: :tease: (Kidding!!!)

But if I were Michael's best friend, I'd be 100% satisfied with this position in his life. lol! :yes: :wub:

[Rubi]

Hey, people always say that our true love is very near us...

Aww Ash, it seems that this is just a fact.
And I read your post while listening
Seat next to you ¨ ¨ / BJ.

Baby, I want you to take me ... wherever you're going to
Maybe Say That'll save me ... the seat next to you

E4kY-juI8-4

This is a thought that is always with me.
That love can take me with him ... ever. Even if only in their thinking. But I always reserve a place near him... :girl_in_love:

[Ashtanga]

Aww Ash, it seems that this is just a fact.
And I read your post while listening
Seat next to you ¨ ¨ / BJ.

Baby, I want you to take me ... wherever you're going to
Maybe Say That'll save me ... the seat next to you

E4kY-juI8-4

This is a thought that is always with me.
That love can take me with him ... ever. Even if only in their thinking. But I always reserve a place near him... :girl_in_love:
Sad :( and so beautiful :wub: at the same time. I like Bon Jovi and this song is very beautiful. :yes: Thanks for posting. :)


*big sigh*

[tha]

:unsure:

:doh: What?????? lol!


Not you! I am! :wild: :tease: (Kidding!!!)

But if I were Michael's best friend, I'd be 100% satisfied with this position in his life. lol! :yes: :wub:

Ahauhauh! Yeah! You're right! ;)


Aww Ash, it seems that this is just a fact.
And I read your post while listening
Seat next to you ¨ ¨ / BJ.

Baby, I want you to take me ... wherever you're going to
Maybe Say That'll save me ... the seat next to you

E4kY-juI8-4

This is a thought that is always with me.
That love can take me with him ... ever. Even if only in their thinking. But I always reserve a place near him... :girl_in_love:

Aaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh! I love Bon Jovi! I really do!!!! Richie Sambora is the BJ's guitar man! And I love this song, is so deep, specially this part:

"When you get to the gates and all the angels sing go to that place where the church bells ring and know I'll come running ... running to find you!"

....look this:

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Is my baby boy! ^^


Thanks for sharing! ;)

[Ashtanga]

Ahauhauh! Yeah! You're right! ;)



Aaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh! I love Bon Jovi! I really do!!!! Richie Sambora is the BJ's guitar man! And I love this song....look this:

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Is my baby boy! ^^


Thanks for sharing! ;)
:wild: :wild: :wild:

He is beautiful!!!!! :wub:

[Rubi]

Ahauhauh! Yeah! You're right! ;)



Aaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh! I love Bon Jovi! I really do!!!! Richie Sambora is the BJ's guitar man! And I love this song, is so deep, specially this part:

"When you get to the gates and all the angels sing go to that place where the church bells ring and know I'll come running ... running to find you!"

....look this:

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Is my baby boy! ^^


Thanks for sharing! ;)


Aww tha , I thought you liked even Bon Jovi, since you posted Ritchie Sambora. I know the Ritchie as the BJ´s guitar, but his solo work I do not know almost nothing. ;)

I'm spechless to talk about his son. What a handsome boy. And even a fan of Bon Jovi.
This joy I don´t have . My daughter just likes ¨MAICO¨... lol.
And every time I listen to Bon Jovi in the car, walking with her. She makes tantrum and just want to listen to Billie Jean and Smooth Criminal, Yana or even Speechless .. but any other singer that I try to listen is a fight for sure. ha- ha
A big kiss to his son. Thanks for showing us such beauty.
Radiant smile.

[tha]

:wild: :wild: :wild:

He is beautiful!!!!! :wub:

Thanks! ;)


Aww tha , I thought you liked even Bon Jovi, since you posted Ritchie Sambora. I know the Ritchie as the BJ´s guitar, but his solo work I do not know almost nothing. ;)

I'm spechless to talk about his son. What a handsome boy. And even a fan of Bon Jovi.
This joy I don´t have . My daughter just likes ¨MAICO¨... lol.
And every time I listen to Bon Jovi in the car, walking with her. She makes tantrum and just want to listen to Billie Jean and Smooth Criminal, Yana or even Speechless .. but any other singer that I try to listen is a fight for sure. ha- ha
A big kiss to his son. Thanks for showing us such beauty.
Radiant smile.

He likes "Maico" too! haha I have a video of him singing Beat It! I'll make the download on youtube and then to post here! ^^
Your daughter has a great taste in music! :)

edit: I just notice that your signature is a part from "Welcome To Whereve You Are" - amazing song!!!

[Ashtanga]

Hey, I just heard a song i used to hear a lot when I was a teenager and I always thought of Michael. :yes:

Now... I want to sing this song for Michael. (:wild: lol!):

kwwOs7UKTwQ


:wub:

[Ape]

How about here? Do you need to see me make a fool of myself for you in here? Will that make you see things? Honestly, I'll go wherever I have to. I still don't know what all is real, but I do know what you mean to me so just tell me what YOU need. I can't believe you felt how you said.... You couldn't be more wrong so tell me what you need from me so you know how things really are for me. While I'm at it, to clear that lie up, anyone who I'm having a relationship with, please speak up in public.

I do like and care about a lot of people online and I DO miss them too sometimes but it sure doesn't mean I'm online dating them, or dating at all gees. To be accused of something that I am really lacking lately really sucks. I probably would love to date. It's lonely being single... but I refrain because of YOU. So stop being this way and believe in yourself enough to know what you mean to me.. or it's all for nothing. Now hopefully you can see that I'm not hiding anything or anyone. You want me to continue??

(sorry for this interruption)

[Sdeidjs]

How about here? Do you need to see me make a fool of myself for you in here? Will that make you see things? Honestly, I'll go wherever I have to. I still don't know what all is real, but I do know what you mean to me so just tell me what YOU need. I can't believe you felt how you said.... You couldn't be more wrong so tell me what you need from me so you know how things really are for me. While I'm at it, to clear that lie up, anyone who I'm having a relationship with, please speak up in public.

I do like and care about a lot of people online and I DO miss them too sometimes but it sure doesn't mean I'm online dating them, or dating at all gees. To be accused of something that I am really lacking lately really sucks. I probably would love to date. It's lonely being single... but I refrain because of YOU. So stop being this way and believe in yourself enough to know what you mean to me.. or it's all for nothing. Now hopefully you can see that I'm not hiding anything or anyone. You want me to continue??

(sorry for this interruption)

Although I have never met you in person, I see a very kind, smart, loving human being.

Always remember, "One can never give something to someone if they do not want it..!

Therefore, if that person you speak of cannot man up...then they are NOT worthy of all the beauty you truly possess..!"

As Always

:angel:

[8701girl]

How about here? Do you need to see me make a fool of myself for you in here? Will that make you see things? Honestly, I'll go wherever I have to. I still don't know what all is real, but I do know what you mean to me so just tell me what YOU need. I can't believe you felt how you said.... You couldn't be more wrong so tell me what you need from me so you know how things really are for me. While I'm at it, to clear that lie up, anyone who I'm having a relationship with, please speak up in public.

I do like and care about a lot of people online and I DO miss them too sometimes but it sure doesn't mean I'm online dating them, or dating at all gees. To be accused of something that I am really lacking lately really sucks. I probably would love to date. It's lonely being single... but I refrain because of YOU. So stop being this way and believe in yourself enough to know what you mean to me.. or it's all for nothing. Now hopefully you can see that I'm not hiding anything or anyone. You want me to continue??

(sorry for this interruption)


:hug: Ape!

Im so sorry that u are going through this. We all love u & care bout u, please always remember that!

[Ape]

Sorry guys... I just don't do well with long distance anything. This all feels too school girl stuff for me. I'm a pretty straightforward woman (at least that's how I think I am) so when someone accuses me of things that are so far from the truth, it really bothers me, and boggles my mind.

I don't know why I thought me putting this public would help anything. I guess to show I'm not pretending anything and I'm not hiding anything. If I were, I'd be keeping things to myself and to private conversations.

Thank you 8701 :hug: I do care about you guys and lots of my friends who I met online. I just don't want to live my life online. Life is so much better in person. I wish I had better control of my emotions.

[Safira]

Sorry guys... I just don't do well with long distance anything. This all feels too school girl stuff for me. I'm a pretty straightforward woman (at least that's how I think I am) so when someone accuses me of things that are so far from the truth, it really bothers me, and boggles my mind.

I don't know why I thought me putting this public would help anything. I guess to show I'm not pretending anything and I'm not hiding anything. If I were, I'd be keeping things to myself and to private conversations.

Thank you 8701 :hug: I do care about you guys and lots of my friends who I met online. I just don't want to live my life online. Life is so much better in person. I wish I had better control of my emotions.

My friend, I know how it feels when you wanna just SCREAM OUT everything like that :better:
I was confused reading the post because I did'nt remember anyone said anything inhere to make you that upset.
I hope you are ok! And you still owe me a PM-reply :cheeky:

[Ape]

Oh shoot. I'm always behind on my PMs. Yes I did just come out of no where.. sorry about that. It was really nothing to do with the thread. It came out of a private conversation/argument. Even my facebook and twitter were taken over by my little outburst of whatever. Aw well. Anyways, if my friend who knows exactly where it came from sees this, you now know you matter more to me than my pride. Hopefully you can laugh at it someday along with me.

[Safira]

Oh shoot. I'm always behind on my PMs. Yes I did just come out of no where.. sorry about that. It was really nothing to do with the thread. It came out of a private conversation/argument. Even my facebook and twitter were taken over by my little outburst of whatever. Aw well. Anyways, if my friend who knows exactly where it came from sees this, you now know you matter more to me than my pride. Hopefully you can laugh at it someday along with me.

In a way, I admire you so much for doing that.. :giggle: It's so straight forward!

[Ape]

Even if it was a bit overboard? lol. Thank you. Yup that's me. Miss straightforward. I guess I get tired of too many misunderstandings and I don't see the point in being vague where things can so easily be taken out of context because the context is unknown. LOL can you imagine if I were around MJ? I'd be asking for clarification every second since he loves to say things in a way that can be taken many ways.

Um... excuse me Michael but what exactly do you mean by "this is it"? Do you mean that it's your amazing show "Tada!!" or do you mean this is it, in that it's all you are going to do and nothing more, or like in the interview where you said you'd know it and think "This is IT" or do you mean like.. um.. this is it, that's not it? If so, what isn't it? Ok and about your last message, is that to the fans, or to one specific person or like.. maybe to God? This lyric here, what did you mean by that? Were you talking to one person, or was it just something nice to say or....could you be more clear here please because you have like, hundreds of women thinking you are talking about them in this song here, so maybe you could just say it's dedicated to the one it's for? maybe? lol I'm sure I'd drive him up the wall, rather than off it.

Sometimes clarity is nice though but as far as Michael's music, not being completely clear is part of the magic right? It keeps us guessing. As for my outburst here, (deja vu moment.. hmm) well sometimes when feelings are on the line from someone who matters to you, it's important to be clear.

[Safira]

Even if it was a bit overboard? lol. Thank you. Yup that's me. Miss straightforward. I guess I get tired of too many misunderstandings and I don't see the point in being vague where things can so easily be taken out of context because the context is unknown. LOL can you imagine if I were around MJ? I'd be asking for clarification every second since he loves to say things in a way that can be taken many ways.

Um... excuse me Michael but what exactly do you mean by "this is it"? Do you mean that it's your amazing show "Tada!!" or do you mean this is it, in that it's all you are going to do and nothing more, or like in the interview where you said you'd know it and think "This is IT" or do you mean like.. um.. this is it, that's not it? If so, what isn't it? Ok and about your last message, is that to the fans, or to one specific person or like.. maybe to God? This lyric here, what did you mean by that? Were you talking to one person, or was it just something nice to say or....could you be more clear here please because you have like, hundreds of women thinking you are talking about them in this song here, so maybe you could just say it's dedicated to the one it's for? maybe? lol I'm sure I'd drive him up the wall, rather than off it.

Sometimes clarity is nice though but as far as Michael's music, not being completely clear is part of the magic right? It keeps us guessing. As for my outburst here, (deja vu moment.. hmm) well sometimes when feelings are on the line from someone who matters to you, it's important to be clear.

:clapping::lol: you are so true about MJ. This is it, this is it, this is it!
Whats it? *sigh* Who is the Liberian girl? Who IS IT? Who is who is it written for? hmm..

Can you really "hear her prayers"? who is she? hmm..

Michaaaaaelllll. You are speaking in codes honeeey :doh::cheeky:

but thats how it is with poetry. its always cryptical and secretive.

[Ashtanga]

Michaaaaaelllll. You are speaking in codes honeeey :doh::cheeky:

but thats how it is with poetry. its always cryptical and secretive.

Michael always spoke in codes. lol! :D If there is no mystery, no fun. lol! :wild: The mystery is the essence of the whole thing. :yes:


:fortuneteller:


And......


Ape >>>> :hug: In the end, everything is ok.

[~God~Bless~MJ~]

If he loved someone I don´t think she´s famous.

[Ape]

Thank you Ashtanga :). Yes it's all alright.

I don't think this thread would exist if he were as straightforward as I can tend to be. God Bless MJ, that could be, yes.

It was kind of sad in that video of the outtakes from the Bashir interview where Michael says that people say "Why would Michael Jackson want to visit us?" and he says "we want to be around SomeOne :( " (or something like that). It makes me think of so many times in the old sony MJ chat where people would say things like "Why would Michael come here? He has better things to do. He's busy with his kids" Yet it would be a great place to visit with people without them changing who they are when they see him. People generally are themselves in chats and online and it's the perfect disguise. Not saying he had done that, but it did get me thinking back to then. I didn't think he'd be offended or hurt by someone saying that he'd not go there.

[Ashtanga]

Thank you Ashtanga :). Yes it's all alright.

:hug:


:D




I don't think this thread would exist if he were as straightforward as I can tend to be. God Bless MJ, that could be, yes.

It was kind of sad in that video of the outtakes from the Bashir interview where Michael says that people say "Why would Michael Jackson want to visit us?" and he says "we want to be around SomeOne :( " (or something like that). It makes me think of so many times in the old sony MJ chat where people would say things like "Why would Michael come here? He has better things to do. He's busy with his kids" Yet it would be a great place to visit with people without them changing who they are when they see him. People generally are themselves in chats and online and it's the perfect disguise. Not saying he had done that, but it did get me thinking back to then. I didn't think he'd be offended or hurt by someone saying that he'd not go there.
Well, I believe that Michael often wanted to feel like a normal person (not famous). Why so many times he goes in disguise. He has always been the king of disguises. lol! :wild: He could be disguised in any place and go unnoticed by people. Nobody would recognize him and the internet is really impossible to know who be on the other side. It's the perfect disguise. (Flashback: Everybody knows that Michael was in MJJC.......):yes: He wanted to see and feel how the normal life of a normal person. Anyway, not the "MJ celebrity".

"Why would Michael Jackson want to visit us?" Why is a celebrity... the most famous of the planet. :wild: Michael wanted to be close to the people/fans. Meet and chat with people/fans. Being a celebrity does not change anything. :yes:




And............


I love Sade. Today I was listening to some songs and it has a song that always made me think of Michael. It is as perfect and I heard a lot in 2005 (:() with Michael in my thoughts :wub: and still remains so. :yes: So this is my favorite song.

For Michael........ :wub:

cBT3_EX6Q2o


Michael......... on your side ALWAYS!!!!!!!! :yes: :wub:



*big sigh*

[Sdeidjs]

Originally Posted by Ape
How about here? Do you need to see me make a fool of myself for you in here? Will that make you see things? Honestly, I'll go wherever I have to. I still don't know what all is real, but I do know what you mean to me so just tell me what YOU need. I can't believe you felt how you said.... You couldn't be more wrong so tell me what you need from me so you know how things really are for me. While I'm at it, to clear that lie up, anyone who I'm having a relationship with, please speak up in public.

I do like and care about a lot of people online and I DO miss them too sometimes but it sure doesn't mean I'm online dating them, or dating at all gees. To be accused of something that I am really lacking lately really sucks. I probably would love to date. It's lonely being single... but I refrain because of YOU. So stop being this way and believe in yourself enough to know what you mean to me.. or it's all for nothing. Now hopefully you can see that I'm not hiding anything or anyone. You want me to continue??

(sorry for this interruption)
Although I have never met you in person, I see a very kind, smart, loving human being.

Always remember, "One can never give something to someone if they do not want it..!

Therefore, if that person you speak of cannot man up...then they are NOT worthy of all the beauty you truly possess..!"

As Always

:angel:

RE: Ape

Not sure how to post an after thought...so I hope I am doing this correctly...

Anyways, I "love" Kelly Clarkson as an Artist and ran across this composition that I think every woman/man should listen too that has questions...

Without further a do...this video somewhat pertains to the "subject matter" of your post...

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As Always

:angel:

[No-Body]

Ape, my friend, you shouldn't have to apologize for anything. Remember the words of the wonderful John Mayer (same guy whom we owe the gorgeous 'your body is a wonderland' song), it's better to say too much, then never say what you need to say again. I am sure though yours aren't 'so-called', but real and deep problems. I hope they work out soon. God bless you. Keep the faith and be strong :D

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Tha, thank you so much for the Richie Sambora link (same as Rubi, i wasn't aware of his solo stuff; love the band, but didn't know his other stuff) and let me tell ya - your lil angel is absolutely precious, i'm sure you are very proud of him, you have every right to :)

Ash, how cool that the first thing you got to translate into English was the Jimmy Cliff song lol. Great start, if i may say so myself. And yeah, they used to play the Love song from NatKing Cole on the breaks in the NBA all the friggin time, i remember they also played Jam. Oh my, those were the days...sooo long ago, feels like a different lifetime, yet so close at the same time, how weird is that, right?

God bless you everyone and remember not to let anyone or anything get you down :cheeky: God's speed.

[Ashtanga]

Ape, my friend, you shouldn't have to apologize for anything. Remember the words of the wonderful John Mayer (same guy whom we owe the gorgeous 'your body is a wonderland' song), it's better to say too much, then never say what you need to say again. I am sure though yours aren't 'so-called', but real and deep problems. I hope they work out soon. God bless you. Keep the faith and be strong :D

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:doh:

Wow, I listened to this song. I love going back to the past sometimes. Thanks! :D




Ash, how cool that the first thing you got to translate into English was the Jimmy Cliff song lol. Great start, if i may say so myself. And yeah, they used to play the Love song from NatKing Cole on the breaks in the NBA all the friggin time, i remember they also played Jam. Oh my, those were the days...sooo long ago, feels like a different lifetime, yet so close at the same time, how weird is that, right?
Jimmy Cliff was the first English school in which we translate into the classroom, but of course it all before and without knowing any English when I was a teenager, I lived with the English dictionary in hand translating the songs of Michael. lol! :wild: :punk: I wanted to understand what he was saying. The desire to learn English came because of Michael. :wub:

Wow, Jam is perfect for NBA. I like both the video with Michael Jordan and Michael trying to teach him to do the moonwalk. lol! :wild:



God bless you everyone and remember not to let anyone or anything get you down :cheeky: God's speed.
Yes..... God works so hard to take care of all her children. He did not forget any. He looks very carefully at all of them, as well as a devoted father who takes care of their children. He is always around and in command of all things. So really there need be no worry. :yes:

:angel:

[Ape]

Thank you guys, you really warmed my heart here. I wasn't thinking of the outcome of laying out all my stuff in a very public way other than to show to my friend that I have nothing to hide. I was pretty upset. I think anyone could see that they matter very much to me or I'd not have gone overboard. So though I may have felt just like Kelly Clarkson in that song (wish I had her nice flat tummy) I don't feel so much like that anymore. I wish they'd come in here and visit like we all do, I know you'd all like my friend. Maybe someday.

Online is just so frustrating sometimes. You have even stronger emotions because of being unable to clearly share what you mean or what you "need to say" and sometimes the emotion behind what you need to say comes out wrong, or maybe right, but misunderstandings are so high on here. They happen so frequently. Bottom line is, when you love someone, and care about them, you'll do anything for them..even risk making a fool of yourself. So I guess that's what happened for me and I really am grateful that you all are so caring to be there for me during my frustration and craziness. Even when I tried tying it back into the topic somehow, you all saw past it and tried to be there for me. Thank you for this.

It's all alright though, all is well. It's just amazing how close people can get with such a physical distance. People can end up being just like family despite the breaking down and rebuilding of walls, over and over. It can become painful at times, but so is motherhood for much of the same reasons. There is no pain when you don't care....but the pain is worth it. Somehow it's worth it for the love.

(which I can tie into this because we all know how much our love for a beautiful human being has also hurt us, but it's also helped us to experience a wonderful part of life and helped us to grow and become better people. So though it hurts to be separated, as we have been these past 9 months, it's worth it. I don't think any of us would trade our experiences and knowing and loving MJ just so we don't feel the hurt, right?)

edit: I'm saying separated because I don't want to say he's gone forever. In a way, death is just a temporary separation right?

[MysteriousPhoenix]

Dedicated to all the men of the world on behalf of my friend, Ape.:)

(Bryan Adams' song as performed by Matt Giraud from American Idol)

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BTW, MJ has done all of these things in his beautiful love songs ...
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[MysteriousPhoenix]

... Bottom line is, when you love someone, and care about them, you'll do anything for them..even risk making a fool of yourself.

... There is no pain when you don't care....but the pain is worth it. Somehow it's worth it for the love.

(which I can tie into this because we all know how much our love for a beautiful human being has also hurt us, but it's also helped us to experience a wonderful part of life and helped us to grow and become better people. So though it hurts to be separated, as we have been these past 9 months, it's worth it. I don't think any of us would trade our experiences and knowing and loving MJ just so we don't feel the hurt, right?)


Wow, Ape! Waht you said is so profound! It's like God is speaking through you and straight to my heart. I was just asking myself yesterday, how much is too much of a price to pay for love, but God has answered me through you and ... through this song which says:

"Love is worth everything we pay ..."

(God is also in a very "latin-y" mood today, lol!)

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[Ashtanga]

Ape.... just a >>>> :hug:for you. :D

I'm glad that everything is ok with you. :) You know we will always be here. :cheeky:




Dedicated to all the men of the world on behalf of my friend, Ape.:)

(Bryan Adams' song as performed by Matt Giraud from American Idol)

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BTW, MJ has done all of these things in his beautiful love songs ...
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OMG!!!! :o :doh:

This is another song that I love :wild: and is part of the soundtrack of the movie "Don Juan DeMarco" with the great Johnny Depp (:wub:).


Don Juan (?).........

http://images.teamsugar.com/files/upl0/10/106296/14_2008/normal_don-juan-de-marco-promo-005.jpg or http://images2.fanpop.com/image/photos/8900000/Ah-The-Smile-michael-jackson-8920145-329-450.jpg:doh:

MJ..... ALWAYS!!!!!!! :wild: :wild: :wild:



Beautiful song! :yes: Thanks for posting! :D


Later I'll share another song.... :fortuneteller: :timer: :D




Wow, Ape! Waht you said is so profound! It's like God is speaking through you and straight to my heart. I was just asking myself yesterday, how much is too much of a price to pay for love, but God has answered me through you and ... through this song which says:

"Love is worth everything we pay ..."

(God is also in a very "latin-y" mood today, lol!)

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:doh:

:wild:


Another beautiful song..... :yes: :wub: And you are inspired today. :yes: :cheeky:


*big sigh*

[Sdeidjs]

What & Who Mr.Jackson has always been about...

Simply Breathtaking~~~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=la0aZWrAd1c

As Always

:angel:

[Ape]

YAY!So glad I could help MP :) :hug:
I love the song you dedicated to all men. I was just singing that the other day while listening to Bryan Adams version online after watching the movie. What a great movie. It's such a beautiful song and says so much.
lol@ God feeling Latin today :D I like that. I wonder if God ever feels sexy.... yeah i know that is a very weird thought but I tend to see Latin as sexy. Michael actually has a latin feel to him many times, like in a few videos... ummmm "in the closet" and the one that says"seven inches in" and the woman is dancing on his table and his hair is braided.. why can't I think of the name of it?

You know what is interesting that I just noticed when googling photos? Well here is our Michael Juan de Marcos
http://worldentertainment.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/michael-jackson-masked-la-3.jpg
and here he is again, only the negative image of the other.
http://www.richardsimpkin.com.au/Rich%20&%20Famous/michael-jackson.jpg

do you see how the masks match? Everything exposed by one is covered by the other. Kind of interesting, I thought.

Susie, thank you for sharing that video as well. Sometimes I can't view the ones you post, so it was nice I could see this one.

[MysteriousPhoenix]

... I wonder if God ever feels sexy....

Ha! Ha! I kinda don't think so. I think He's soooooo far above such things. I think He just wants the rest of us to feel that way so we can breed a lotta rug rats! lol! Yeah, but I hear ya about latin music. I love it! Guess it appeals to the latin in my blood! *singing* "Para bailar La Bamba, para bailar La Bamba se necessita una poca de gracia ..."




Well here is our Michael Juan de Marcos
http://worldentertainment.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/michael-jackson-masked-la-3.jpg


That would be our Miguel de Marcos! lol!

Oooooooh!!! Thanks so much for finding this, Ape! When Ash put up the pic of the other Juan de Marcos, my mind immediately went to this picture and I was gonna post it, but I didn't have time to look for it! I wonder what he was thinking here. He was probably silently singing in his head ...

"To really love a woman, to understand her ... So tell me have you ever really ... really, really ever loved a woman?" :lol:

Oh, btw, the song you're thinking about is "Blood on the Dancefloor."

[Ape]

HAHAH@!! OHhhhhhh yes Miguel DeMarcos~! mmmmmhmm I think he must have been singing that song in his head..lol.
Blood on the dancefloor it is. Not sure why I couldn't think of it just then.

I think you probably are right about God....but then again.. He is an artist to create these shapes personalities that have that sexy feel to them. I wonder what He thinks of it since He did create procreation and all that.

You are part Latin? I'm so curious to know what you look like. You MYSTERIOUS Phoenix you.

oo cool, have you ever noticed that mysterious has a bit of serious in it?

[Ashtanga]

When Ash put up the pic of the other Juan de Marcos, my mind immediately went to this picture and I was gonna post it, but I didn't have time to look for it! I wonder what he was thinking here. He was probably silently singing in his head ...

"To really love a woman, to understand her ... So tell me have you ever really ... really, really ever loved a woman?" :lol:

:doh:

OMG!!! :wild:

Thanks for making me smile! :D I needed it today. Maybe Michael was really singing this song in my mind.... :wild: He is smiling in the picture....:wub:


And...........


I was watching my poetry/sonnets books and I came across....


The verses that I made

Lets tell you the beautiful verses rare
That my mouth has to tell you!
They are carved in marble from Paros
Carved from me to offer you.

They have the sadness of velvet expensive
They are like pale setae on fire...
Lets tell you the beautiful verses rare
That were made for you freak out!

But, my love, I can not tell you yet...
The mouth of the woman is always beautiful
If a guard inside verse does not say that!

I love you so much! And never kissed you...
And in that kiss, love, that I never gave you
I keep the most beautiful verses I made you!

Florbela Espanca


I like this sonnet... :wub:


And............


Another song that always makes me think of Michael (I love that lyric):




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:wub:

[tha]

Hi Guys!!!

You posted great songs here! I think I'm falling in love again! :lol:

MP, I love this song, I love Bryan Adam's voice! And I would like to share with you one more his song with Barbra Streisand, a wonderful partnership! :wub:


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Ash, I love "I Turn To You"! Christina's voice is amazing!



Kisses.

[Safira]

OMG!!!! :o :doh:

This is another song that I love :wild: and is part of the soundtrack of the movie "Don Juan DeMarco" with the great Johnny Depp (:wub:).


Don Juan (?).........

http://images.teamsugar.com/files/upl0/10/106296/14_2008/normal_don-juan-de-marco-promo-005.jpg or http://images2.fanpop.com/image/photos/8900000/Ah-The-Smile-michael-jackson-8920145-329-450.jpg:doh:

MJ..... ALWAYS!!!!!!! :wild: :wild: :wild:



Beautiful song! :yes: Thanks for posting! :D


Later I'll share another song.... :fortuneteller: :timer: :D




:doh:

:wild:


Another beautiful song..... :yes: :wub: And you are inspired today. :yes: :cheeky:


*big sigh*


DROOL at those two men! My favorite men in the whole world. I can't pick who's the best.. :wild::wub:

yummy.. Love Johnny on that pic.. But anyway.
MJ is still no.1 :yes:

[Ashtanga]

DROOL at those two men! My favorite men in the whole world. I can't pick who's the best.. :wild::wub:

yummy.. Love Johnny on that pic.. But anyway.
MJ is still no.1 :yes:
I also love Johnny, but he'll have to understand (lol!) That Michael will always be nº 1!!! :wub:





Hi Guys!!!

I love Bryan Adam's voice! And I would like to share with you one more his song with Barbra Streisand, a wonderful partnership! :wub:


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Ash, I love "I Turn To You"! Christina's voice is amazing!



Kisses.

Beautiful song that you posted!!!!! :wild:



And............


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I love being in love with you, Michael..... ALWAYS!!! :wub:


And............


That Saturday is so....


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:wild:

[8701girl]

:doh:



Wow, Jam is perfect for NBA. I like both the video with Michael Jordan and Michael trying to teach him to do the moonwalk. lol! :wild:



Yeh "jam" totally reminds me of basketball

[MysteriousPhoenix]

Hey, ash! I see you're another JT (John Travolta) lover! Well, here's a song by him and Olivia Newton-John that is actually based on MJ and his love in the dark. I kid!:cheeky: Nevertheless ... it is still a fun song. Here ya go ...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyUWkQj0Q_U

[Ashtanga]

Hey, ash! I see you're another JT (John Travolta) lover! Well, Here's a song by him and Olivia that is actually based on MJ and his love in the dark. I kid!:cheeky: Nevertheless ... it is still a fun song. Here ya go ...


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OMG!!!!! :doh:

I love Grease and John Travolta (he's a great actor). This song is wonderful. :wub: Hey, I'm enjoying return to the past. lol! :wild:


But this is my favorite:


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:wub:

[Sdeidjs]

All I know...I wholeheartedly believe in of what & who Mr.Jackson was & will always be about~~~All the rest truly "did not"matter~~~


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ee1GkK_GXxw

As Always~~~

:angel:

[Safira]

Hey, ash! I see you're another JT (John Travolta) lover! Well, here's a song by him and Olivia Newton-John that is actually based on MJ and his love in the dark. I kid!:cheeky: Nevertheless ... it is still a fun song. Here ya go ...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyUWkQj0Q_U

ah! fav song from Grease.

ITS ELECTRIFYING! :lol:

lets see.. can MJ make a couple of steps for this song..
:beatit:

[Ashtanga]

So that everyone has a good beginning of week and be blessed.... :yes:

This video was posted long ago in this thread, I think the Mimik....


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:angel:


:D

[MysteriousPhoenix]

You are part Latin? I'm so curious to know what you look like. You MYSTERIOUS Phoenix you.

Meh, I don't think I look like one of those exotic beauties everyone is used to seeing (like in MJ's videos, lol!), although some people have said they like my looks. I guess you can't really see yourself - only a mirror relflection. Wow! how profound! lol!





oo cool, have you ever noticed that mysterious has a bit of serious in it?

I know, maybe too much seriousness in it. I am determined to get out and have more fun. I think my new motto will be: "It's all for fun - F.U.N.!"

Edit: BTW, Ash, when did you change the "A" in your name from lower case to upper case??? Hmmm ...

[MysteriousPhoenix]

So that everyone has a good beginning of week and be blessed.... :yes:

This video was posted long ago in this thread, I think the Mimik....


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:angel:


:D

Very nice, Ash! I remember when this was posted last year about this same time, but I was having a hard time watching videos then. So, this video was inspired by Michael's view of God?

[Safira]

I am determined to get out and have more fun. I think my new motto will be: "It's all for fun - F.U.N.!"

likes this!:D
ok lets have some F.U.N.!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b70pKlOYZ_0&feature=channel

yo! dingdong man, dingdong! dingdong yo!
the question is, are you FAT or WHAT?
you aint FAT you aint nothin!
you aint NOTHIN!!!!

[Ashtanga]

Edit: BTW, Ash, when did you change the "A" in your name from lower case to upper case??? Hmmm ...
:o

OMG!!!!!! :doh:

My friend is very observant. lol! :wild: I changed today..... Mystery........ :fortuneteller:


:cheeky:


Edit....

I thought about changing my name here, but then I gave up. -_-




Very nice, Ash! I remember when this was posted last year about this same time, but I was having a hard time watching videos then. So, this video was inspired by Michael's view of God?
:yes:

Mimik posted. Yesterday I was only just returning to the past in this thread and reading some posts and came across the video. :wub: :D

[MysteriousPhoenix]

My friend is very observant. lol! :wild:

I know. Nothing gets past the eyes of the MysteriousPhoenix! :shifty:

Coming up ...

We shall try to decode the mysterious lyrics to the song, "Cry."

[Ashtanga]

I know. Nothing gets past the eyes of the MysteriousPhoenix! :shifty:
ha! ha! ha! I know! :shifty: :cheeky:

Hey, am I saying this! :bugeyed You stole my phrase and it's not right. lol! -_- (Kidding!) :D :tease:

Sooooooooooooooo.............



Coming up ...

We shall try to decode the mysterious lyrics to the song, "Cry."
Hmmmmmmmmm

Yes, this song was left out. :scratch:I need to look carefully. :wub: But the video makes me think in union, all the people together and holding hands.

[8701girl]

So that everyone has a good beginning of week and be blessed.... :yes:

This video was posted long ago in this thread, I think the Mimik....


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:angel:


:D


Aww he really did that?? Oh michael :cry:

[Ape]

I know. Nothing gets past the eyes of the MysteriousPhoenix! :shifty:

Coming up ...

We shall try to decode the mysterious lyrics to the song, "Cry."
Ack, you so often do this to me. I was just thinking this myself about the CRY song, especially now. Really seems poignant right now.


Now, I really want to share something special with you guys. My daughter recorded a song she wrote and put it on youtube (not properly recorded yet, just from her computer) she is just teaching herself how to play guitar but it still sounds great. Her singing is gorgeous and the song is pretty sweet. She has talent for sure (this is not just me speaking as her mom, see for yourself). I think you can see even though the recording is crappy quality.
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I shared some of her singing once about 6 years ago when she was 9 but I lost that recording when my computer got stolen :(. I wish someone I know had it still.

8701, if you click on the youtube video (the God one) Michael's poem is in the description.

[Ashtanga]

Now, I really want to share something special with you guys. My daughter recorded a song she wrote and put it on youtube (not properly recorded yet, just from her computer) she is just teaching herself how to play guitar but it still sounds great. Her singing is gorgeous and the song is pretty sweet. She has talent for sure (this is not just me speaking as her mom, see for yourself). I think you can see even though the recording is crappy quality.
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:o

Ape, your daughter is talented. :wild: I loved her voice. :yes: If they follow a musical career, I wish her luck. :punk:

She is a fan of Michael? :scratch: She could sing any song from him. Maybe "One day in your life ".... :wub:

[Ape]

:D Thank you!!! I will tell her. I love her voice too very much. She likes him yes. It's funny because I don't see them as fans of anyone, but sometimes they stick up for him and I beam with pride at raising some good kids. Her favorite song of Michael's is "Enjoy Yourself" lol she played it and even danced to it in Mexico for us. She'd rewind it over and over and it made us all happy. We all sang along to it. I'm so glad you liked it :).

[8701girl]

AWw i love "one day in your life" :wub:

[Safira]

I know. Nothing gets past the eyes of the MysteriousPhoenix! :shifty:

Coming up ...

We shall try to decode the mysterious lyrics to the song, "Cry."

YESSS! :clapping::punk:
one of my fav songs that I also suggested for my choir to sing :yes:

*puts on reading glasses*

lets see.. ahem :coffee:

obviously he is asking us to believe in god hm? In verse 1 he pictures a person who is standing alone, without god and is therefore sort of shackled, weak and alone.

missing a freind, lacking a hero = god?
they dont know when its gonna end - a life without belive is also a life where you have no answer to - why you are alive, why some people feel pain, if we are going to be justifyed sometime and questions like that.

In verse 2 he contenues but begins to tell about the believe. He is saying "come with me" both in words but also behind the lines in this song.

:coffee:
(it really is a good song aint it..)

The chorus is something I feel two things about - 1. in an addition to the verses he tells US that we are all chosen, and expresses the feeling of being lost when standing infront of this fact and god.

or 2. I feel like it's Michael speaking straight to god here. He feels like god is asking something of him, giving him these special gifts of creativity and wisdom that he had, and Michael feels alone because of that. He feels like he cant do this all alone.
So the choir in the chorus would be "gods" voice and and then Michael answers back. But as much as it is gods voice it could also be Michaels own voice to himself, and voices that earlier had spoken to him (his mother for example.)

The B-part ("when that falg blows..-")
I dont understand why he is saying "I will answer all your prayers" here.
Someone can help me on that hm? :)

[MysteriousPhoenix]

Ape, your daughter has a lovey "bluesy" kind of voice there. I also can't believe you have a daughter that old! You must have had her when you were about 2! Thanks for sharing.

Safira, I really like your interpretation of the song, "Cry." I can see you really put a lot of thought into it.

BTW, Happy Cinco de Mayo!

[Ashtanga]

YESSS! :clapping::punk:
one of my fav songs that I also suggested for my choir to sing :yes:

*puts on reading glasses*

lets see.. ahem :coffee:

obviously he is asking us to believe in god hm? In verse 1 he pictures a person who is standing alone, without god and is therefore sort of shackled, weak and alone.

missing a freind, lacking a hero = god?
they dont know when its gonna end - a life without belive is also a life where you have no answer to - why you are alive, why some people feel pain, if we are going to be justifyed sometime and questions like that.

In verse 2 he contenues but begins to tell about the believe. He is saying "come with me" both in words but also behind the lines in this song.

:coffee:
(it really is a good song aint it..)

The chorus is something I feel two things about - 1. in an addition to the verses he tells US that we are all chosen, and expresses the feeling of being lost when standing infront of this fact and god.

or 2. I feel like it's Michael speaking straight to god here. He feels like god is asking something of him, giving him these special gifts of creativity and wisdom that he had, and Michael feels alone because of that. He feels like he cant do this all alone.
So the choir in the chorus would be "gods" voice and and then Michael answers back. But as much as it is gods voice it could also be Michaels own voice to himself, and voices that earlier had spoken to him (his mother for example.)

The B-part ("when that falg blows..-")
I dont understand why he is saying "I will answer all your prayers" here.
Someone can help me on that hm? :)
Safira thanks for breaking the silence here. lol! :wild: :shifty:

Great post. :clapping: I also thought all this stuff about the song "Cry". But I also thought that much (as always) there are things in-between that song. Well, you know, Michael always spoke to us through codes accompanied by much mystery. :reading: :read: :coffee:

Although this song was made some years ago, this song is perfect for this moment... today... and all the events we are experiencing now.... Well, I guess I better shut my mouth. lol! >>> :shutup:

:shifty:


:fortuneteller:


Soooooooooooooo........... The MP will not share their interpretation of "Cry"? :scratch: I'm curious... :popcorn:


And........


I just want to share another song that I really like and has a beautiful message:


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We must always listen to the voice of our hearts.... :yes: :wub:

[tha]

:sigh:

[Ape]

:) MP, she's 15. I am 34. I had her pretty young. Thanks for listening and commenting on it. I'll have to share all the responses with her.

That's an interesting interpretation Safira. It'd different than what I saw.

I had a dream last night about the kids, MJ's kids.

[8701girl]

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Sorry 2 say..i hate that song! hehe

[Ashtanga]

Thanks for listening and commenting on it. I'll have to share all the responses with her.
Ape, I'd love to hear her singing some song from Michael. :yes: Send this message to her. lol! :D



I had a dream last night about the kids, MJ's kids.
The three angels..... :wub:

I was curious about his dream, but if you do not want to share, ok. :)

[Ape]

I can share :) I just wasn't sure anyone would be interested and I figured I may have used my quota up for sharing things that might not fit in this thread.

I have to try to remember it but basically my kids and I were visiting a house that was very big (I don't know why we were there) and public. I noticed the kids there and thought "I wonder if that's them" and then my middle daughter asked Prince for an autograph. I didn't want her to so I kind of tried to hush her, but he was nice and gave her one anyways. I thought it looked like they really didn't want to be noticed as anything other than regular kids, so I treated them as regular kids and went about our day together. I was talking with my kids and Paris was close so I smiled at her (she was a bit younger than she is now though). I kept noticing them looking at us together as a family and I felt really bad for them. It seemed Paris was looking longingly at my daughter and I talking and playing. I suddenly felt my heart go out to her without a mom in her life (though I guess she has many moms in her life). I just felt like she really wished she had a mom. The boys seemed mostly alright. It was just a quiet contemplative moment for Paris, in my dream. I felt bad for her because in the dream I knew exactly how she was feeling, like I could read her thoughts. So I started talking to them and then they kind of all came around. Blanket got a haircut so he was less recognizable. I thought it was smart, but I missed his long hair. Prince was so mature and like the big brother looking after them all. People started to notice them and so I got protective of them like they were my own, and shooed the people off basically. Said they weren't who they thought they were and let them be with us instead of on their own (for some reason they were there alone in the dream... :( ). The house was like Escher though.. it was all complicated and hard to move around. We were walking on the upside down part of the stairs to get places. Things were mostly calm. I talked with them about their dad and how they miss him. I felt sorrow from them. Paris seemed particularly vulnerable and I just wanted to show her love like a mom as I do with my kids. The boys were sad, but playful too and more stand offish with me, but still happy to be with us. It was like our family just got bigger.

When I told my kids about the dream after I picked them up from school, my daughter said "that's cool mom because Angel's are like guardians, and you were like their guardian angel. (my name is Angel for anyone who doesn't know)"

It was just one of those dreams that sticks with you and feels real. Then I had a nap today and Michael was in it in an absent kind of way. That was much too Escher-like to be able to explain though.. Somewhat Abstract, but also very confusing to follow. Also had the stairs that were supposed to be the underside of the regular ones. I was trapped by someone, and trying to get away. I was in a closet, and the closet led to another room. A huge secret room that I tried to hide in and found the weird stairs so I had to climb, and jump over something on every flight. It led to some weird work out like place. I don't know.. I don't really remember it anymore.

[Safira]

That's an interesting interpretation Safira. It'd different than what I saw.

I had a dream last night about the kids, MJ's kids.

So what was your interpretation? I'm always totally dramatic when I interpret so maybe you have a more down-to-earth version? ^^

and what was the dream about, im interested.

[Ape]

Oh the dream is just above your post :) . I think probably my version is even less down to earth, as you say. But it will take more time to write out than I have right now and isn't completely explainable I think.. but I could try.

[8701girl]

I have to try to remember it but basically my kids and I were visiting a house that was very big (I don't know why we were there) and public. I noticed the kids there and thought "I wonder if that's them" and then my middle daughter asked Prince for an autograph. I didn't want her to so I kind of tried to hush her, but he was nice and gave her one anyways. I thought it looked like they really didn't want to be noticed as anything other than regular kids, so I treated them as regular kids and went about our day together. I was talking with my kids and Paris was close so I smiled at her (she was a bit younger than she is now though). I kept noticing them looking at us together as a family and I felt really bad for them. It seemed Paris was looking longingly at my daughter and I talking and playing. I suddenly felt my heart go out to her without a mom in her life (though I guess she has many moms in her life). I just felt like she really wished she had a mom. The boys seemed mostly alright. It was just a quiet contemplative moment for Paris, in my dream. I felt bad for her because in the dream I knew exactly how she was feeling, like I could read her thoughts. So I started talking to them and then they kind of all came around. Blanket got a haircut so he was less recognizable. I thought it was smart, but I missed his long hair. Prince was so mature and like the big brother looking after them all. People started to notice them and so I got protective of them like they were my own, and shooed the people off basically. Said they weren't who they thought they were and let them be with us instead of on their own (for some reason they were there alone in the dream... :( ). The house was like Escher though.. it was all complicated and hard to move around. We were walking on the upside down part of the stairs to get places. Things were mostly calm. I talked with them about their dad and how they miss him. I felt sorrow from them. Paris seemed particularly vulnerable and I just wanted to show her love like a mom as I do with my kids. The boys were sad, but playful too and more stand offish with me, but still happy to be with us. It was like our family just got bigger.

When I told my kids about the dream after I picked them up from school, my daughter said "that's cool mom because Angel's are like guardians, and you were like their guardian angel. (my name is Angel for anyone who doesn't know)"




I feel for paris :(

Like u said theres plenty of mother like figures in her life that she can turn 2 ( well i hope there are), but theres nothing like a mothers love to guide a girl through life.

[Ape]

Well, maybe it's just a dream too and they aren't feeling anything like that. :) I hope anyways.

[Joyce]

What a lovely voice. I know you are proud Ape.

[MysteriousPhoenix]

:) MP, she's 15. I am 34. I had her pretty young.


Ah, I see. I knew she was a teen, but I still couln't wrap my head around it for some reason, but the math does work out in the end somehow.

Oh, btw, just so your daughter doesn't get offended,:angel: I just wanted to add that when I said, "that old" I meant "that grown up" as opposed to being a young child or toddler, rather than mean "old" as in "old and decrepit" or somethin' along those lines! lol! She can rest assured that she looks very youthful and pretty.:)

[tha]

Ape, your daughter has a adorable voice! I loved !
Congratulations! :clapping:

[Ashtanga]

That Friday/weekend is great for everyone :punk:........

And...........


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:angel:



And.... I found the video I was searching for:


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:wub:

[Ape]

Oh Yanni!! I haven't thought about him since I was a teenager. My mom used to listen to him and I really loved listening to his music though I think somehow it reminded me of elevator music..still I loved it. Nice and relaxing and emotion filled.

Thank you everyone for all your nice comments about my oldest little one. :) I am really proud of the beautiful (starting from the inside and moving outward) young lady she is growing up to be.


So.. about my dream, is it just me or did it make it a bit more bothersome that I'd dream that right before all these videos of the kids leaked? Not sure anyone saw them or not but (and I KNOW she's not talking about me..) when Paris said "Monkey please help" and I'm Ape dreaming about helping them... well the coincidence was there to notice. Those are the types of things I tend to take notice of and think...ok does this mean God wants me to pray for them or should I take notice, am I supposed to take some sort of action from afar to stand up for them like get these video places shut down? or what.. It's not that I am delusional thinking, but God has tended to work that way in my life. Subtle things that catch my attention as long as it goes along with His word and teachings. Maybe it isn't as big a deal as it feels it is. My own daughter is right here in my signature. It's just that MJ had done so much to protect their identity and privacy so...

Anyone have thoughts on that? Even if you want to slap sense into me if you feel that's lacking, go on ahead..lol.

[No-Body]

Ape, congrats for your daughter, she is truly talented. You have every right to be proud of her. All of you gals (tha, Linda) are truly blessed to have children. Let me wish you all a very happy Mother's day. I look forward to the day when I will have some children of my own; they don't need to be blood related either, I actually don't believe my genes are particularly worth spreading anyhow lol. The trying part though, well that's a whole 'nother issue. :cheeky:

This might sound a bit o/t, but y'all hear me out please. It has to do May 5th 2005. A couple of days ago was the 5th 'anniversary' (if it can be called that) since Michael's defense during the trial began. I say it is not so o/t because I believe beyond his safety, good health and of course love, the most important thing was his good name for which he fought so valiantely for so long. I remember how that particular day was a Palindrome (nope, not any Sarah Palin related syndrome lol) and one so special that I don't how many hundreds of years it's gonna take before something similar happens, so I really thought that was a good sign, not that there was ever any doubt in my mind about the outcome of the trial. And because it was cinco de mayo, Michael wore a beautiful vest and armband which certainly had a Mexican feel to them. Remember these?

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/1087/52762296.jpg

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/8657/52762293.jpg

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/765/20050505.jpg

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/5599/20050505t2.jpg

What has always amazed me about Michael and what i've admired most about him has been strength and tenacity with which he faced his adversaries. I was simply in awe of his power to endure all of that torture. And even in his darkest days, he managed to shine ever so brightly. It is said that in the lowest depth of human frailty and suffering, God shines the brightest. It certainly was true for Michael, as this next picture proves. It was taken on one of them days when he returned from one of the many hospital visits he made during that time, poor darling.

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/7489/52463801.jpg

I would actually like to take this opportunity to thank the entire defense team and the witnesses on Michael's behalf who have been there for him. We owe them and of course the good Lord the freedom he enjoyed after that ordeal - the brilliant Thomas Messereau (for all his dedication and faith in Michael), Susan Yu (in spite of her apparent silence she was a solid member of that team), Robert Sanger (whom I admired for his work against the death penalty and of course the work during the trial), Mark Geragos (for all the evidence he gathered and his testimony), Brian Oxman (even when he managed to anger the T-Mez), all the detectives and the people involved in jury deliberation – God bless them all and their loved ones.

It really pains me soooo much when i think of all the grief Michael endured because of his innocent love for children. He simply cared and loved from the heart – his own little angels (first picture) and everyone else's. I haven't yet seen the videos Angel mentioned, but i feel kinda strange and guilty about it, as though i am invading their privacy. I've always felt Michael's children were such a sacred and private part of his life, one that brought him immense joy. God bless them and protect them always, God bless them abundantly.

http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/7123/87169801.jpg

http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/8097/61jpg.jpg

http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/1307/afrikan.jpg

http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/6672/innocent2.jpg

And be4 the o/t guards catch me, I better return to the subject of the thread. How bout some Mexican flavor since 5 de mayo passed us by – will Antonio Banderas' Desperado do? I know Antonio is Spanish, he comes from Málaga, same town as Picasso (whose full name I just found out is Pablo Diego José Francisco de Paula Juan Nepomuceno María de los Remedios Cipriano de la Santísima Trinidad Martyr Patricio Clito Ruíz y Picasso Lopez - oh my, y'all try to read that in one breath looool), but Salma Hayek is Mexican plus the movie is set in Mexico, is it not? :P

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Thanks so much Ash for all them wonderful links. :bow: You know i love me some Kirk Franklin, Ms. Keys is my gal and I hear the Roxette song on the radio all the time, so you really got me with all of them lol.

God bless you everyone. :)

[MysteriousPhoenix]

... Michael wore a beautiful vest and armband which certainly had a Mexican feel to them. Remember these?

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/1087/52762296.jpg

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/8657/52762293.jpg

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/765/20050505.jpg


Yes. The vest and arm band were based on a Mexican style of shawl known as a serape. Beautiful!:)

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:cBl5J35d7kCYIM:http://www.lamariposaimports.com/serape.jpg (http://www.lamariposaimports.com/serape.jpg)

[Ashtanga]

Ape, congrats for your daughter, she is truly talented. You have every right to be proud of her. All of you gals (tha, Linda) are truly blessed to have children. Let me wish you all a very happy Mother's day. I look forward to the day when I will have some children of my own; they don't need to be blood related either, I actually don't believe my genes are particularly worth spreading anyhow lol. The trying part though, well that's a whole 'nother issue. :cheeky:

This might sound a bit o/t, but y'all hear me out please. It has to do May 5th 2005. A couple of days ago was the 5th 'anniversary' (if it can be called that) since Michael's defense during the trial began. I say it is not so o/t because I believe beyond his safety, good health and of course love, the most important thing was his good name for which he fought so valiantely for so long. I remember how that particular day was a Palindrome (nope, not any Sarah Palin related syndrome lol) and one so special that I don't how many hundreds of years it's gonna take before something similar happens, so I really thought that was a good sign, not that there was ever any doubt in my mind about the outcome of the trial. And because it was cinco de mayo, Michael wore a beautiful vest and armband which certainly had a Mexican feel to them. Remember these?

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/1087/52762296.jpg

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/8657/52762293.jpg

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/765/20050505.jpg

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/5599/20050505t2.jpg

What has always amazed me about Michael and what i've admired most about him has been strength and tenacity with which he faced his adversaries. I was simply in awe of his power to endure all of that torture. And even in his darkest days, he managed to shine ever so brightly. It is said that in the lowest depth of human frailty and suffering, God shines the brightest. It certainly was true for Michael, as this next picture proves. It was taken on one of them days when he returned from one of the many hospital visits he made during that time, poor darling.

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/7489/52463801.jpg

I would actually like to take this opportunity to thank the entire defense team and the witnesses on Michael's behalf who have been there for him. We owe them and of course the good Lord the freedom he enjoyed after that ordeal - the brilliant Thomas Messereau (for all his dedication and faith in Michael), Susan Yu (in spite of her apparent silence she was a solid member of that team), Robert Sanger (whom I admired for his work against the death penalty and of course the work during the trial), Mark Geragos (for all the evidence he gathered and his testimony), Brian Oxman (even when he managed to anger the T-Mez), all the detectives and the people involved in jury deliberation – God bless them all and their loved ones.

It really pains me soooo much when i think of all the grief Michael endured because of his innocent love for children. He simply cared and loved from the heart – his own little angels (first picture) and everyone else's. I haven't yet seen the videos Angel mentioned, but i feel kinda strange and guilty about it, as though i am invading their privacy. I've always felt Michael's children were such a sacred and private part of his life, one that brought him immense joy. God bless them and protect them always, God bless them abundantly.

http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/7123/87169801.jpg

http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/8097/61jpg.jpg

http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/1307/afrikan.jpg

http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/6672/innocent2.jpg

And be4 the o/t guards catch me, I better return to the subject of the thread. How bout some Mexican flavor since 5 de mayo passed us by – will Antonio Banderas' Desperado do? I know Antonio is Spanish, he comes from Málaga, same town as Picasso (whose full name I just found out is Pablo Diego José Francisco de Paula Juan Nepomuceno María de los Remedios Cipriano de la Santísima Trinidad Martyr Patricio Clito Ruíz y Picasso Lopez - oh my, y'all try to read that in one breath looool), but Salma Hayek is Mexican plus the movie is set in Mexico, is it not? :P

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Wow :doh:, congratulations on the book. lol! :D I also want to wish a happy Mothers Day to all mothers and and for women that will soon be mothers. And of course, I wish Ms. Katherine has a great day. :wub:


http://www.funmunch.com/events/mothersday/mothers_day_graphics/mothers_day_glitter_graphic04.gif :wub:



Shabuya, I agree with everything you said on May 5, 2005. :yes: But this is really something I hate to remember that everything Michael did suffer a lot. I can imagine the pain he felt cruel that year. :( But now it's all over.... *big sigh*


My words are the same as yours, I highlighted in bold in your post, but I want to say I admire the brilliant work that Mesereau did. I really admire this man. This man deserves to always have our respect and gratitude for everything he has done to our beloved Michael. :yes:
Thanks Mesereau! :clapping: (If one day he comes here.... lol! :wild:)



Thanks so much Ash for all them wonderful links. :bow: You know i love me some Kirk Franklin, Ms. Keys is my gal and I hear the Roxette song on the radio all the time, so you really got me with all of them lol.

God bless you everyone. :)
It was a time "back to the past." lol! :D Sometimes it's good to do that. :punk: I'm glad you enjoyed it. Thanks! :cheeky: I also really like Antonio Banderas :wild:... thanks for the video. :)





Yes. The vest and arm band were based on a Mexican style of shawl known as a serape. Beautiful!:)

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:cBl5J35d7kCYIM:http://www.lamariposaimports.com/serape.jpg (http://www.lamariposaimports.com/serape.jpg)
Really? Wow, I do not know. :doh: Thanks for telling. :D :cheeky:

[Ape]

I loved that post Shabuya. Just listening to the song now. I LOVEEEEEEEEE Mehico :D (Mexico). The song you posted reminds me of it and Michael looks very nice in the photos you posted. I don't remember seeing them before.

I probably shouldn't have looked at the videos, but I did. I just really don't like all the questioning if their grandmother can handle them. They are a family and now she is their only parent and that should be respected. Sometimes I just wish fans would butt out (though I am one, and I also love many of em and appreciate em) so maybe I'm a hypocrite in thinking that since I didn't really butt out myself.

[tha]

Shabuya, great post! And thanks for the congratulations for mother's day! Having a child is the greatest blessing that a human can get and don't worry, 'cause the things happen at the right time and you will have a child (from blood or heart) when God thinks is the moment and remember that nothing is impossible to Him! In 2002, I had a health problem and the doctors told me I couldn't have children and....well, well....3 years later I got pregnant! :angel:

And about hard time MJ's trial.....well, Michael is a warrior! He endured all the stones that were thrown into him, his wings were injured and even so he get to fly again! I can imagine that inside him there are still bruised, but God gave to him the power of resistance!

Talking about this is still difficult for me, but I know that is good to do this sometimes 'cause by this way I can see how amazing God is and how grandiose is our angel Michael!

And yes....he was always very well dressed! I always say that he is very stylish and that many clothes and accessories are only good him! That colored vest that he wore made mention to Mexico, yes! Michael was always very attentive to many things and he never lets anything go unchallenged, however simple it may be!

Wow! I wrote a lot! Sorry, guys!

Happy Mother's Day to all mothers here and to your mothers!

Kisses!


Edit: to post this video that always reminds me my mom !

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[Ape]

:) Another sweet post Tha and I agree with all you said. (too talked out and tired to add to it but just wanted to say nice post)

[Sdeidjs]

This is Absolutely Precious...Giggles~~~

Dedicated to ALL the Children OF The World..!

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Love Always~~~

:angel:

[8701girl]

As im writing to u all and on my tv "heal the world" is playing. It truly makes me realise that it really is to UP TO US to HEAL this world together, if we dont...who will?


God put us on this earth to do what he cannot and we all are god's children and as hes children, we all must stand together and put an end to the evil that is trying to destroy our world.

[Safira]

As im writing to u all and on my tv "heal the world" is playing. It truly makes me realise that it really is to UP TO US to HEAL this world together, if we dont...who will?


God put us on this earth to do what he cannot and we all are god's children and as hes children, we all must stand together and put an end to the evil that is trying to destroy our world.

fantastic that they put Michaels music on TV still! I wish they had an MJ-day on a music channel soon..

[8701girl]

fantastic that they put Michaels music on TV still! I wish they had an MJ-day on a music channel soon..


It was actually a taped mj countdown that was on sometime late last yr. I still watch it to this day, the host of it was david gest.

[Ashtanga]

Again.... for all mothers, all women who will still be mothers and Mrs. Katherine:


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:wub:

[Lainy]

A Mother's Love

There are times when only a Mother's love
Can understand our tears,
Can soothe our disappoints
And calm all of our fears.
There are times when only a Mother's love
Can share the joy we feel
When something we've dreamed about
Quite suddenly is real.

There are times when only a Mother's faith
Can help us on life's way
And inspire in us the confidence
We need from day to day.

For a Mother's heart and a Mother's faith
And a Mother's steadfast love
Were fashioned by the Angels
And sent from God above...

- Author Unknown.


http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/2442/katherinejackson001.jpg

:wub:

and for all women who were presented with the wonderful gift of being a MOM


http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/3983/happymothersdaycardtuli.jpg

[IxxTreasuredSoulxxI]

thanks for those.

BTW this is MJzPrincess1982. I did the tarot card readings last year about this time :) HOWDY. I'm back, but with a different username and am VERY interested in this topic. :yes: So anyone interested in my views, just ask :)

[Ashtanga]

A Mother's Love

There are times when only a Mother's love
Can understand our tears,
Can soothe our disappoints
And calm all of our fears.
There are times when only a Mother's love
Can share the joy we feel
When something we've dreamed about
Quite suddenly is real.

There are times when only a Mother's faith
Can help us on life's way
And inspire in us the confidence
We need from day to day.

For a Mother's heart and a Mother's faith
And a Mother's steadfast love
Were fashioned by the Angels
And sent from God above...

- Author Unknown.


http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/2442/katherinejackson001.jpg

:wub:

and for all women who were presented with the wonderful gift of being a MOM



http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/3983/happymothersdaycardtuli.jpg

:wub: :wub: :wub:

[Ape]

OHhh I remember you treasured soul :) Yes I'd love to hear what you have to say.

Lully :) very nice.

[No-Body]

Yes. The vest and arm band were based on a Mexican style of shawl known as a serape. Beautiful!:)

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:cBl5J35d7kCYIM:http://www.lamariposaimports.com/serape.jpg (http://www.lamariposaimports.com/serape.jpg)

Serape, is that what it's called? Had no idea. I see the site from where u got the pic has got the word mariposa included in it, that's Spanish for butterfly and we all know how much we like those round here, don't we? lol


Wow :doh:, congratulations on the book. lol! :D I also want to wish a happy Mothers Day to all mothers and and for women that will soon be mothers. And of course, I wish Ms. Katherine has a great day. :wub:


http://www.funmunch.com/events/mothersday/mothers_day_graphics/mothers_day_glitter_graphic04.gif :wub:



Shabuya, I agree with everything you said on May 5, 2005. :yes: But this is really something I hate to remember that everything Michael did suffer a lot. I can imagine the pain he felt cruel that year. :( But now it's all over.... *big sigh*

You are so right. I really hope Mrs. Jackson had a wonderful day yesterday. She is an amazing example of a wonderful mother, she truly is a rock for the family, God bless her.

The book, eh Ash? Well then, you should be frightened by what this post will contain then, a true novel lolol.

I know what you are saying - I really hate to do this, going back to the days of the trial cause all of that is in past and that's where it belongs, but again – Michael's good name and what he went through for it are mighty important issues.


I loved that post Shabuya. Just listening to the song now. I LOVEEEEEEEEE Mehico :D (Mexico). The song you posted reminds me of it and Michael looks very nice in the photos you posted. I don't remember seeing them before.

You are most welcome my friend, most welcome. I'm glad you enjoyed it.


Shabuya, great post! And thanks for the congratulations for mother's day! Having a child is the greatest blessing that a human can get and don't worry, 'cause the things happen at the right time and you will have a child (from blood or heart) when God thinks is the moment and remember that nothing is impossible to Him! In 2002, I had a health problem and the doctors told me I couldn't have children and....well, well....3 years later I got pregnant! :angel:

And about hard time MJ's trial.....well, Michael is a warrior! He endured all the stones that were thrown into him, his wings were injured and even so he get to fly again! I can imagine that inside him there are still bruised, but God gave to him the power of resistance!

Talking about this is still difficult for me, but I know that is good to do this sometimes 'cause by this way I can see how amazing God is and how grandiose is our angel Michael!

And yes....he was always very well dressed! I always say that he is very stylish and that many clothes and accessories are only good him! That colored vest that he wore made mention to Mexico, yes! Michael was always very attentive to many things and he never lets anything go unchallenged, however simple it may be!

Wow! I wrote a lot! Sorry, guys!

Happy Mother's Day to all mothers here and to your mothers!

Kisses!


Edit: to post this video that always reminds me my mom !

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Thanks so much for all your kind words tha. Yes, i know - all things in due time. Amazing what you said about your own experience. God does work in wonderful and mysterious ways. God bless you and your little one.

Wonderful words you said there about Michael. Sooo true :)

About the vid you posted - i was actually familiar with Andrea's version with Giorgia. Wasn't aware of this one. Thank you.



This is Absolutely Precious...Giggles~~~

Dedicated to ALL the Children OF The World..!

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Love Always~~~

:angel:

Oh Sus, thank youuu so much for that, truly beautiful. I was going to listen to some Brahms yesterday, but i ended up finding the time for another couple of composers whose names begin with B as well. There was also an amazing thunderstorm to go along with the music, super experience.

Wonderful poem and pictures from Lully :)

I wrote enough as i did, but i gotta warn y'all, there is a lottttt more where that came from. Some random stuff that has been on me mind lately. SORRRY for the length.

I've got to thinking about they way in which Michael had to walk a very thin line throughout most of his life between humility and confidence. On the one hand, he was a very wealthy man (and we all know what the good Lord said about camels and needle holes and stuff...) and the most famous man and greatest artist in the world – he had achieved so much, conquered so many peaks of entertainment, all the accolades and the adulation he received the world over. He had every right to be proud of himself. I just heard about Lena Horn passing away and I was reading some of her words about the discrimination she suffered. It was only natural for Michael to be proud of who he was – a beautiful African-American man with the world at his feet.

On the other hand, he never lost his human touch (i was truly impressed to read about him sleeping in some small village in China with them folks there), nor did he take for granted his gifts, as Michael Bearden demonstrated so beautifully in the dvd for the movie. There was a humility he kept, a humbleness which made him realise that in the eyes of God, his fame and his money didn't make him any more important or precious than the now famous lady who scrubs toilets in Harlem or the farmer in Ireland lol. He knew people should not and cannot be used as means, but each and every individual is a purpose in and by him/herself.

There were those who criticized him with regards to the HIStory trailer, they've all said it was one huge show of ego, but i've always considered it one slap in the face and a big, defying challenge sent out to his detractors and the rest of them who tried to bring him down. Not only did that mini movie stirred all the controversy he desired as a means of promoting the album, but I got a feeling it was also a self-assurance exercise to feel once again that people really were on his side in spite of all the vicious actions the years before. I don't wanna get into my own memories about the trailer cause they are inconsequential and it would take evennn further space, but suffice it to say I love the boldness of it all and the location. It was a brilliant, artistic statement the likes of which only Michael could have made.

Then, there were also his huge insecurities – from his adolescence up to his adult years. I really wish he would have had a lot more confidence in himself and would have felt a lot more comfortable in his own skin, and Lord knows I don't mean by that any bleachin' bull. I can only imagine what a devastating and debilitating affect a disease like vitiligo had on the most famous man in the world involved in an industry where image is sooo important. Imagine waking up one morning with spots which not only affect your outter aspect, but also represent an attack on your very identity. It must have been horrible.

I really wish he would have had enough people around him to tell him not only the things he wanted or he needed to hear about his talents and his business acumen only so they can get whatever advantages they sought, but people to tell him he truly was beautiful in AND out – with and without his spots and any other imperfection. What made him truly beautiful was neither what he had or what he did, but who he was – a beautiful soul clothed in a really appealing body. I actually shouldn't be commenting on anyone's insecurities since I have my own 'litany' of issues of this kind, but what's done it's done....

And since I mentioned HIStory before - I still feel this is, alongside Vince of course, his most underrated album. I remember towards the end of the trial there was a Reuters (amazingly enough, if i remember correctly) article about the brilliance of the album and how all the answers to the accusations of 1993 lay there. If in that particular decade Michael had to use his art to express his hurt, anger and frustration at what he had been put through because others made the choice for him and he probably wasn't ready at that point to fight in court, in 2005 he certainly stood his ground and we've seen him walk unafraid and face his adversaries with the utmost dignity and courage, surrounded by the love of his family and everybody else in the world who believed in him.

I really gotta say that during those months I felt the proudest of the man; probably the only other time when I felt any prouder was after watching the movie in the cinema and people applauding at the end of it or in the several public occasions I attended organized in his honor during which people of all ages and races were delighted with his work and embraced his message of love.

The movie has been such a wonderful experience, one that I will treasure forever because it was so wonderful to witness him do what he loved so much, to see him have fun once more with his craft and be, at times, blissfully happy and carefree. I wouldn't say for the longest time cause it wouldn't be true, but for a while after June 25th last year I felt quite guilty about contributing to the demand for tickets and what followed, but i've changed my mind when I realized that he probably would have felt even worse had the tickets not sold in such a record amount (of time) and also when I saw the movie and the joy he got from getting back into it all.

I know i went too o/t already and not to some pleasant memories, but please allow me to go even a bit further. Yesterday was the 60th anniversary of the Schumann declaration – the moment of birth of what now has become the European Union – a 27 member happy family, which like any family, fights from time to time, speaks with different voices, but at the end knows there's nothing more important than going at it together.

Please allow me to take this opportunity to wish all my fellow Europeans a very happy day – it has taken the sacrifice of millions of soldiers (not only of European origin) and many other tens of millions of civilian victims to get where we are now. We managed to involve the entire planet not once, but twice in our conflicts, therefore the peace and the general prosperity (with the occasional exceptions brought about by the economic crisis and local circumstances) that we now enjoy and take for granted must be celebrated and cherished.

What is now becoming a continent of immigrants (not always welcomed properly unfortunately) has also been the origin (sometimes for better, other times for far worse – one need only look to the Native American population and the Aborigenes in Australia and New Zeeland) for many other countries and continents. But in spite of all of that, the “old”continent has also been the source of some of the most amazing works of art and scientific discoveries the world has ever known. It has also been a cradle of Christianity which has not always embraced its big brother, Judaism as it should have and hasn't always payed enough respect to Islam and all other belief systems or lackthereof, but we are struggling to improve. Here's a song to celebrate from the band with the very name, Europe – the final countdown.

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And finally to try and make some sort of return on topic, I would like now to post one of my favorite Michael songs ever – Keep the faith. It truly is a gospel gem infused with the passion and soul of that genre; his voice rings so loud you can almost imagine him recording this track. Andrae Crouch's choir, as always, gave an amazing contribution and Siedah Garett and Glen Ballard wrote a wonderful song. As it was the case with Man in the mirror before it, Michael took Keep the faith and made it his.

Remember folks – the power that love has, makes it right, really makes it right.

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And a few more great lines I was reminded of recently whilst watching Heal the world –

...if you want to know why,
there's a love that cannot lie,
love is strong
it only cares for joyful giving.

I think I really went overboard with this one post. Matter of fact, not only do i think so, i know so. My sincerest apologies for the length and the content. It ought to be enough to last for quite some time, but then again........I don't know much, but i've learnt enough to know it's safe to never say never. In any case, goodbye.. .for now. God bless you everyone.:D

P.S. *Thinks back at what tha wrote about her writing too much and laughs.* I can really be terrible and awful. Sorry everyone. :P Somebody betta stop my fingers from getin' anywhere near a computer keyboard for a while.

[Lainy]

Ash, Ape and Shabuya Thankyou very much. I'm glad you enjoyed it.

Ape, her daughter voice's is really lovely.

Shabuya, great post. It's always very nice reading your posts.


I really wish he would have had enough people around him to tell him not only the things he wanted or he needed to hear about his talents and his business acumen only so they can get whatever advantages they sought, but people to tell him he truly was beautiful in AND out. – with and without his spots and any other imperfection. What made him truly beautiful was neither what he had or what he did, but who he was – a beautiful soul clothed in a really appealing body. I actually shouldn't be commenting on anyone's insecurities since I have my own 'litany' of issues of this kind, but what's done it's done....

:clapping: I wholeheartedly agree. Wise words, thankyou so much.

[Ashtanga]

You are so right. I really hope Mrs. Jackson had a wonderful day yesterday. She is an amazing example of a wonderful mother, she truly is a rock for the family, God bless her.

The book, eh Ash? Well then, you should be frightened by what this post will contain then, a true novel lolol.

I know what you are saying - I really hate to do this, going back to the days of the trial cause all of that is in past and that's where it belongs, but again – Michael's good name and what he went through for it are mighty important issues.
Katie is a great woman/mother and yesterday I thought about her a lot. I also hope she has had a wonderful day. :wub:


Yes, sometimes it is very hard to return to the past, but in this case, in 2005, it is very painful for us. We all feel all the pain along with Michael. We suffer and we pray together with Michael. Fortunately, Michael was victorious in the end. 2005 will go down in the past forever. This past, I will never go back.





I wrote enough as i did, but i gotta warn y'all, there is a lottttt more where that came from. Some random stuff that has been on me mind lately. SORRRY for the length.

I've got to thinking about they way in which Michael had to walk a very thin line throughout most of his life between humility and confidence. On the one hand, he was a very wealthy man (and we all know what the good Lord said about camels and needle holes and stuff...) and the most famous man and greatest artist in the world – he had achieved so much, conquered so many peaks of entertainment, all the accolades and the adulation he received the world over. He had every right to be proud of himself. I just heard about Lena Horn passing away and I was reading some of her words about the discrimination she suffered. It was only natural for Michael to be proud of who he was – a beautiful African-American man with the world at his feet.

On the other hand, he never lost his human touch (i was truly impressed to read about him sleeping in some small village in China with them folks there), nor did he take for granted his gifts, as Michael Bearden demonstrated so beautifully in the dvd for the movie. There was a humility he kept, a humbleness which made him realise that in the eyes of God, his fame and his money didn't make him any more important or precious than the now famous lady who scrubs toilets in Harlem or the farmer in Ireland lol. He knew people should not and cannot be used as means, but each and every individual is a purpose in and by him/herself.

There were those who criticized him with regards to the HIStory trailer, they've all said it was one huge show of ego, but i've always considered it one slap in the face and a big, defying challenge sent out to his detractors and the rest of them who tried to bring him down. Not only did that mini movie stirred all the controversy he desired as a means of promoting the album, but I got a feeling it was also a self-assurance exercise to feel once again that people really were on his side in spite of all the vicious actions the years before. I don't wanna get into my own memories about the trailer cause they are inconsequential and it would take evennn further space, but suffice it to say I love the boldness of it all and the location. It was a brilliant, artistic statement the likes of which only Michael could have made.

Then, there were also his huge insecurities – from his adolescence up to his adult years. I really wish he would have had a lot more confidence in himself and would have felt a lot more comfortable in his own skin, and Lord knows I don't mean by that any bleachin' bull. I can only imagine what a devastating and debilitating affect a disease like vitiligo had on the most famous man in the world involved in an industry where image is sooo important. Imagine waking up one morning with spots which not only affect your outter aspect, but also represent an attack on your very identity. It must have been horrible.

I really wish he would have had enough people around him to tell him not only the things he wanted or he needed to hear about his talents and his business acumen only so they can get whatever advantages they sought, but people to tell him he truly was beautiful in AND out – with and without his spots and any other imperfection. What made him truly beautiful was neither what he had or what he did, but who he was – a beautiful soul clothed in a really appealing body. I actually shouldn't be commenting on anyone's insecurities since I have my own 'litany' of issues of this kind, but what's done it's done....

And since I mentioned HIStory before - I still feel this is, alongside Vince of course, his most underrated album. I remember towards the end of the trial there was a Reuters (amazingly enough, if i remember correctly) article about the brilliance of the album and how all the answers to the accusations of 1993 lay there. If in that particular decade Michael had to use his art to express his hurt, anger and frustration at what he had been put through because others made the choice for him and he probably wasn't ready at that point to fight in court, in 2005 he certainly stood his ground and we've seen him walk unafraid and face his adversaries with the utmost dignity and courage, surrounded by the love of his family and everybody else in the world who believed in him.

I really gotta say that during those months I felt the proudest of the man; probably the only other time when I felt any prouder was after watching the movie in the cinema and people applauding at the end of it or in the several public occasions I attended organized in his honor during which people of all ages and races were delighted with his work and embraced his message of love.

The movie has been such a wonderful experience, one that I will treasure forever because it was so wonderful to witness him do what he loved so much, to see him have fun once more with his craft and be, at times, blissfully happy and carefree. I wouldn't say for the longest time cause it wouldn't be true, but for a while after June 25th last year I felt quite guilty about contributing to the demand for tickets and what followed, but i've changed my mind when I realized that he probably would have felt even worse had the tickets not sold in such a record amount (of time) and also when I saw the movie and the joy he got from getting back into it all.

I know i went too o/t already and not to some pleasant memories, but please allow me to go even a bit further. Yesterday was the 60th anniversary of the Schumann declaration – the moment of birth of what now has become the European Union – a 27 member happy family, which like any family, fights from time to time, speaks with different voices, but at the end knows there's nothing more important than going at it together.


And finally to try and make some sort of return on topic, I would like now to post one of my favorite Michael songs ever – Keep the faith. It truly is a gospel gem infused with the passion and soul of that genre; his voice rings so loud you can almost imagine him recording this track. Andrae Crouch's choir, as always, gave an amazing contribution and Siedah Garett and Glen Ballard wrote a wonderful song. As it was the case with Man in the mirror before it, Michael took Keep the faith and made it his.

Remember folks – the power that love has, makes it right, really makes it right.

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And a few more great lines I was reminded of recently whilst watching Heal the world –

...if you want to know why,
there's a love that cannot lie,
love is strong
it only cares for joyful giving.

I think I really went overboard with this one post. Matter of fact, not only do i think so, i know so. My sincerest apologies for the length and the content. It ought to be enough to last for quite some time, but then again........I don't know much, but i've learnt enough to know it's safe to never say never. In any case, goodbye.. .for now. God bless you everyone.:D

P.S. *Thinks back at what tha wrote about her writing too much and laughs.* I can really be terrible and awful. Sorry everyone. :P Somebody betta stop my fingers from getin' anywhere near a computer keyboard for a while.
:clapping:

I love your books and you said everything and a little more... :yes: Thanks! :D

[IxxTreasuredSoulxxI]

Back to the roots of this thread : --> I really believe he had a hidden love still. I think about them lots. I don't think their love was embarassing, anyone listen to Akon's DONT MATTER or Will.I.Am's ONE MORE CHANCE???

You should. Those songs, I believe, really were michael's even though they don't have his name on em (:

[Sdeidjs]

Back to the roots of this thread : --> I really believe
he had a hidden love still. I think about them lots. I don't think their love was embarassing, anyone listen to Akon's DONT MATTER or Will.I.Am's ONE MORE CHANCE???

You should. Those songs, I believe, really were michael's even though they don't have his name on em (:

:punk:

As Always

:angel:

[Sdeidjs]

Golly Gee Wilickers Ladies & Gents,

What wonderful reflection of thoughts...Thank You wholeheartedly for sharing.

Shabuya & Anyone else I may have missed (please forgive me), thank you again for all your kind words...

Your very welcome..!

Love Always~~~

:angel:

[IxxTreasuredSoulxxI]

:punk:

As Always

:angel:
he must be hiding away with her and not really gone ;)

[Ashtanga]

he must be hiding away with her and not really gone ;)
:secret:

:wild:



IxxTreasuredSoulxxI, now I've looked carefully at your avatar and I discovered what it is.... lol! :doh: :wild: :wub:


:shifty:

:naughty:

[Sdeidjs]

Ahhh~~~that magical electricity that two people share being "in love" ~~~

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As Always~~~

:angel:

[lulubelle]

I love "twilight" and that song especially. :)

[Ashtanga]

Ahhh~~~that magical electricity that two people share being "in love" ~~~

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As Always~~~

:angel:
Yes..... :shifty:

:wub:

[No-Body]

Golly Gee Wilickers Ladies & Gents,

What wonderful reflection of thoughts...Thank You wholeheartedly for sharing.

Shabuya & Anyone else I may have missed (please forgive me), thank you again for all your kind words...

Your very welcome..!

Love Always~~~

:angel:


Oh nooooo, h.... 2 da nono, how could you Susie? I will neva, eva forgive, nor will I ever forget.:evil:
























I know i'm back faster than the pest, but i'll be on my merry way soon. I needed to comeback briefly cause it's a special occasion. Nope, not Mimi's emacipation, but someone's birthday.

Where she @ it's passed midnight, so let me invite you all cordially to a surprise party for one of the most wonderful contributors to this thread – her videos (as the last one shows ever so eloquently) and her reflections always make us think, laugh and many times cry. Let us celebrate none other than our very own Sus. Got chaaa :D

I know you are allergic to cats, but this one is far away, you only need listen and look at her, it won't hurt ya.

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And since is the litd thread, here's song that fits quite well – in honor of Sus, Superfly Sister

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So Sus, go on wit your bad and awesome self, cause you're doing great. God bless you my friend, today and every day. :cheeky:

Also meant to thank the everrr so observant Ash :lol: and Lully for their appreciations.

Oh, and Ape....lol right back @ cha, don't know how much I compensate though and if I should in first place; you're too kind.


*starts out the Happy Birthday song in honor of Susie and then tries to hide and go away, foolishly thinkin' nobody notices :ph34r:* let the party carry on and let the thread go back to its beautiful biz.

[Ashtanga]

And since is the litd thread, here's song that fits quite well – in honor of Sus, Superfly Sister

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</EMBED>OMG!!! :doh:

The pictures of this video are sooooooo hot.... :shifty: :wub:

Thanks for the video :wild:.... I love this song too. :)


*Singing and dancing with Michael* :wild:




Also meant to thank the everrr so observant Ash :lol:
:shifty:

:D


And.......

Sinatra also talked a lot about love....


For Michael.....

LvJHBNsoTDQ


:wub:

[Sdeidjs]

Dedicated to ALL my Family, Friends, Children, The Elderly, Mr.Michael Jackson, Jackson Family, Fans/Admirers, Associates, and Comrades throughout the world...Thank you for sharing your world by touching my life, the center of my heart and soul ~~~

Thank You for Being YOU~~~

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Love Always

:angel:

In "HIS" own words" One of Mr.Jacksons "greatest" short films~~~

Without Further a Do~~~

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Love Always~~~

:angel:

WHAT ELSE CAN I/WE SAY~~~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRY-MLH763A

Love Always~~~

:angel:

Piano voice solo....Mmmm~~~I don't know about you...but...Be "still" my heart~~~

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Love always~~~

:angel:

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Love Always~~~

:angel:

Susie "just" being Susie~~~

A favorite~~~

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Love Always~~~

:angel:

Wholeheartedlly...Without "ANY" Doubt~~~

Be "still" my heart..!

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Love Always~~~

:angel:

This acapella is "hot"~~


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As Always~~~

:angel:

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Love Always~~~

:angel:

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As Always~~~

:angel:

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Love Always~~

:angel:

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Love Always~~~

:angel:

Things that make us go Mmmm~~~

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Love Always~~~

:angel:

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Love Always~~~

:angel:

Please forgive me Ladies & Gents~~~"

Susie is just being Susie~~

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Love Always~~~

:angel:

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As Always~~~
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[IxxTreasuredSoulxxI]

are you allowed to double post on this forum?

[Sdeidjs]

are you allowed to double post on this forum?

Just sharing my/our pure heart (s)~~~

What "one" see's will "always" get...!

As aways~~~

:angel:

[Ashtanga]

Sdeidjs thanks for these videos soooooooo wonderful! :wild: :clapping: :punk: :wub:

And....

I think Michael would enjoy this video (Disney :wub:) and this song:


bjOYwjr1iH4


*big sigh*

:wub:

[LindaC781]

Here is a video I dedicate to my precious Michael....I miss him so much!

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[8701girl]

This acapella is "hot"~~


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Oh i agree with that!

[Sdeidjs]

Sdeidjs thanks for these videos soooooooo wonderful! :wild: :clapping: :punk: :wub:

And....

I think Michael would enjoy this video (Disney :wub:) and this song:


bjOYwjr1iH4


*big sigh*

:wub:

;D

As Always

:angel:

[Lorraine]

are you allowed to double post on this forum?


No it isn't allowed. All posts merged.

[Sdeidjs]

No it isn't allowed. All posts merged.

Thank You...please forgive me~~~

As Always

:angel:

[Ashtanga]

Well, yesterday I was sooooooooo bored and sad :(...... and I hear this song immediately made me think of my dear Michael (:wub:).....


A_jCNchJSyI


*big sigh*

I'm sure Michael would have loved this song. :wub:




;D

As Always

:angel:

;D

:punk:

[Sdeidjs]

"Keep Helping To Heal The World...Knowledge IS Power...

Knowledge IS Growth...Education IS The Key~~~"


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Love Always

:angel:

[Sdeidjs]

"There are many things in life that will catch your eye, but only a few will catch your heart…!"

~Author Unknown

Love Always

:angel:

[Sdeidjs]

Beautiful story.... makes you understand that things "really do" happen for a reason~~~

The brand new pastor and his wife, newly assigned
to their first ministry, to reopen a church
in suburban Brooklyn , arrived in early October
excited about their opportunities When they saw
their church, it was very run down and needed
much work. They set a goal to have everything
done in ti me to have their first service
on Christmas Eve.

They worked hard, repairing pews, plastering walls,
painting, etc, and on December 18
were ahead of schedule and just about finished.

On December 19 a terrible tempest - a driving
rainstorm hit the area and lasted for two days.

On the 21st, the pastor went over to the church.
His heart sank when he saw that the roof had
leaked, causing a large area of plaster about
20 feet by 8 feet to fall off the front wall of the
sanctuary just behind the pulpit, beginning about
head high.

The pastor cleaned up the me ss on the floor,
and not knowing what else to do but postpone
the Christmas Eve service, headed ho me .

On the way he noticed that a local business was
having a flea market type sale for charity so he
stopped in. One of the items was a beautiful,
handmade, ivory colored, crochete d tablecloth
with exquisite work, fine colors and a Cross
embroidered right in the center. It was just
the right size to cover up the hole in the front
wall. He bought it and headed back to the church.

By this time it had started to snow. An older
woman running from the opposite direction was
trying to catch the bus.. She missed it.. The pastor
invited her to wait in the warm church for
the next bus 45 minutes later.

She sat in a pew and paid no attention to the pastor
while he got a ladder, hangers, etc., to put
up the tablecloth as a wall tapestry. The pastor
could hardly believe how beautiful it looked and
it covered up the entire problem area.

Then he noticed the woman walking down the center
aisle. Her face was like a sheet.. "Pastor,"
she asked, "where did you get that tablecloth?"
The pastor explained. The woman asked him to check
the lower right corner to see if the initials, EBG were crocheted into
it there. They were. These were the initials of the woman, and she had
made this tablecloth 35 years before, in Austria

The woman could hardly believe it as the pastor
told how he had just gotten the Tablecloth. The
woman explained that before the war she and
her husband were well-to-do people in Austria ...

When the Nazis ca me , she was forced to leave.
Her husband was going to follow her the next week.
He was captured, sent to prison and never saw her
husband or her ho me again.

The pastor wanted to give her the tablecloth;
but she made the pastor keep it for the church.
The pastor insisted on driving her ho me , that
was the least he could do... She lived on the other
side of Staten Island and was only in Brooklyn
for the day for a housecleaning job.

What a wonderful service they had on Christmas
Eve. The church was almost full. The music and the
spirit were great. At the end of the service, the
pastor and his wife greeted everyone at the door
and many said that they would return.

One older man, whom the pastor recognized
from the neighborhood continued to sit in one of the
pews and stare, and the pastor wondered why he
wasn't leaving.

The man asked him where he got the tablecloth on
the front wall because it was identical to one
that his wife had made years ago when
they lived in Austria before the war and how
could there be two tablecloths so much alike.

He told the 20 pastor how the Nazis ca me , how he
forced his wife to flee for her safety and he was
supposed to follow her, but he was arrested and
put in a prison.. He never saw his wife or his ho me
again all the 35 years in between.

The pastor asked him if he would allow him to
take him for a little ride. They drove to Staten
Island and to the sa me house where the pastor
had taken the woman three days earlier.

He helped the man climb the three flights of
stairs to the woman's apart me nt, knocked on
the door and he saw the greatest Christmas
reunion he could ever imagine.

True Story - submitted by Pastor Rob Reid
Who says God does not work in mysterious ways..
I asked the Lord to bless you as I prayed for
you today, to guide you and protect you as you go
along your way. His love is always with you, His
promises are true, and when we give Him all our
cares you know He will see us through.

So when the road you're traveling on seems
difficult at best.. Just re me mber I'm here
praying and God will do the rest. Pass this on
to those you want God to bless and don't forget
to send it back to the one who asked God to bless
you first.

When there is nothing left but God, that is when
you find out that God is all you need. Take 60
seconds and give this a shot! All you do is simply
say the following small prayer for the person
who sent you this.

Father, God, bless all my friends and family in what
ever it is that You know they may be needing this
day! May their life be full of your peace,
prosperity and power as he/she seeks to have a
closer relationship with you. Amen.

Then send it on to five other people, including the
one who sent it to you. Within hours five people have
prayed for you and you caused a multitude of people
to pray for other people. Then sit back and watch the
power of God work in your life.


Love Always :wub:

:angel:

[Lorraine]

Please can I say again that double/triple/quadruple posting on MJJC is not allowed. I have had to point this out a number of times in this thread. If you have posted and want to post again if no one else has posted after you please use the edit button. Thank you... :flowers:

[AllForMJ]

Hot...steamy...sticky...yummy!!!

:lol:

http://www.michael-jackson-lovers.com/images/MjReallySexy.jpg :wub:

Good LAWD!!!!

Guess we betta put some water on him to cool him off a lil' bit, right? LOL

http://www.michael-jackson-lovers.com/images/Michaelinswimtrunks2.jpg

Oh SO sexy!!!

[Lainy]

:shock2:

:girl_glasses:

:girl_crazy:

:girl_in_love:

:girl_sigh: big sigh

no comments. :girl_blush: :lol:

[Ashtanga]

Hot...steamy...sticky...yummy!!!

:lol:

http://www.michael-jackson-lovers.com/images/MjReallySexy.jpg :wub:

Good LAWD!!!!

Guess we betta put some water on him to cool him off a lil' bit, right? LOL

http://www.michael-jackson-lovers.com/images/Michaelinswimtrunks2.jpg

Oh SO sexy!!!
:doh:

Hot? :scratch: That's almost a fire! I love the second picture.... :naughty:

:wild:

Oh Michael..... :wub:

[IxxTreasuredSoulxxI]

Hot...steamy...sticky...yummy!!!

:lol:

http://www.michael-jackson-lovers.com/images/MjReallySexy.jpg :wub:

Good LAWD!!!!

Guess we betta put some water on him to cool him off a lil' bit, right? LOL

http://www.michael-jackson-lovers.com/images/Michaelinswimtrunks2.jpg

Oh SO sexy!!!
watch out mike! they're gonna bite ya! teehee

[8701girl]

Hot...steamy...sticky...yummy!!!

:lol:

http://www.michael-jackson-lovers.com/images/MjReallySexy.jpg


:o Is this pic real?

[moodyblue97]

:o Is this pic real?

No ;)

[AllForMJ]

http://www.michael-jackson-lovers.com/images/MjReallySexy.jpg

:shock2:

:girl_glasses:

:girl_crazy:

:girl_in_love:

:girl_sigh: big sigh

no comments. :girl_blush: :lol:

:doh:

Hot? :scratch: That's almost a fire! I love the second picture.... :naughty:

:wild:

Oh Michael..... :wub:

watch out mike! they're gonna bite ya! teehee

:o Is this pic real?

No ;)
I don't know if the above photo is real or not, but I DO know this...

It is absolutely BEAUTIFUL!!

If it is not real, it is A-OK. And if it is real, it is still A-OK!

But, from looking at the photo that I posted along with it...the one with him coming out of the pool...all of the gorgeous physical attributes that are on him in the pool photo, are on him in the drool photo. :lol:

If the drool photo is the work of a very creative and clever individual, I gotta give that person a HUGE thumbs up and a :clapping: to go along with it!

But um, wow, things sure are checkin' out from his chest down to the rest.

And hey, if he did something similar to this with Lisa Marie Presley, he may have done so before doing that with Lisa Marie Presley. The only difference between the above photo and the video that he did with Lisa is that he took off more of his clothes for his video with Lisa. That is the only difference.
:yes:

Well, lemme back up some on that...

Miss lady in the above photo is getting a little more body temperature while the camera is going click. :giggle:

http://bestofmichaeljackson.jclondon.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/Lisa-Marie-Presley-Michael-Jackson-You-Are-Not-Alone-1.jpg

[Sdeidjs]

Dear MJJ Community Staff, Fans and Admirers of Mr.Michael Jackson & Family,

Again, please forgive me for my ignorance of the rules of MJJ Community~~~

Open Letter

For those of you that have questioned the oracle of my presence;

Susie is sharing what and who Susie has always and will forever be ALL about...

I am a brutally honest individual, I have never asked for anything and do not expect anything in return...I have been called weird, some think I am very deep, and yes on "many" occasions there have been some that even felt I was the man himself...

Therefore;

I have always loathed "the one (s)" that boast, the self absorbed, self promoting, money grubbing individuals for personal and or public gain..!

For me, Reflection (s) of Thought (s) of the past and present HIStory are of a cherished and unique reality that I have not only personally experienced throughout my journey in life but has continued to flow for decades...

Please do not ask me to explain the who (s), the how (s), the what (s), and why (s)...that is not important...

On that note, I would like to share with you one of those precious, and very cherished moments I will "never" forget that my nearest and dearest best friend shared with me...

"You have one of the purest hearts I have ever met, It's ok people think your weird/deep, They think I am weird/deep too, that is what makes US so unique...WE are goal oriented, WE look outside the box.

What I need for you to do for me, is just keep being you, and do what you do..!"

Love Always~~~

:angel:

[Ashtanga]

Last night I had a little dream with Michael was a little funny. :laugh: :wub: But unfortunately I woke up.... :sigh: :doh: :wild:

So I remembered this song today:


For Michael.... :wub:


6qOvr0me2kw


:punk:





Dear MJJ Community Staff, Fans and Admirers of Mr.Michael Jackson & Family,

Again, please forgive me for my ignorance of the rules of MJJ Community~~~

Open Letter

For those of you that have questioned the oracle of my presence;

Susie is sharing what and who Susie has always and will forever be ALL about...

I am a brutally honest individual, I have never asked for anything and do not expect anything in return...I have been called weird, some think I am very deep, and yes on "many" occasions there have been some that even felt I was the man himself...

Therefore;

I have always loathed "the one (s)" that boast, the self absorbed, self promoting, money grubbing individuals for personal and or public gain..!

For me, Reflection (s) of Thought (s) of the past and present HIStory are of a cherished and unique reality that I have not only personally experienced throughout my journey in life but has continued to flow for decades...

Please do not ask me to explain the who (s), the how (s), the what (s), and why (s)...that is not important...

On that note, I would like to share with you one of those precious, and very cherished moments I will "never" forget that my nearest and dearest best friend shared with me...

"You have one of the purest hearts I have ever met, It's ok people think your weird/deep, They think I am weird/deep too, that is what makes US so unique...WE are goal oriented, WE look outside the box.

What I need for you to do for me, is just keep being you, and do what you do..!"

Love Always~~~

:angel:
:hug:

[8701girl]

No ;)


Thats a shame, cuz it really did look real

[wowo]

love's precondition is truth.
if there's problems in love, need to check if there's problems on truth at the first place but not to check and complain love&desire.

it should be:
did michael find the truth in dark

neednt push the request of "the truth that love needs" to extremes(in fact impossible), but some truth is the holy theory that everyone should have in love such as ID

[Lisha]

Hello, LITD gang...

I'll tell you what brought me into the thread today. I was watching a video that happened to have playing through it the full song version of Someone in the Dark. Now I admit to rarely having listened to this song, even though this thread is all about it...I'm not one to need to really listen to every MJ song out there, but I remember having listened to it a few times awhile back because of this thread. I just hadn't paid that much attention to it.

When I listened to it just now I was mesmerized by it, to be frank. I listened to it three times over. It is a very beautiful ballad...starting right with the intro, which includes some very magical sounds and accents that brings to mind Tinkerbell and her pixie dust tingling. And the ending, as well, is very lovely, which, if anyone knows, is that a rainstick that is used there briefly at the end?

Something also got my attention and that was hearing ET in the middle of that song saying his "thank you" to Eliot (such a small, and seemingly inconsequential human boy...), in such a sweet, humble, deep and honest way...it has such meaning. The authenticity of it all, and the simplicity of ET's true heart. And then I began to think about MJ and his LITD girl.

Do you think if "she" had been blessed with the opportunity to speak to him in person, after all that time of waiting, that she would have in that same, pure, humble, deep and honest way, looked at him, and said to him so openly, such a "Thank you"...a transparent thank you so filled with gratitude and emotion for his having loved her and for believing in her in secret for so many, many years? How could the realization of that not overwhelm her with emotion and intense gratitude, how could she not have said to him with tear-filled eyes, "Thank you"?

[8701girl]

Hey queen welome to the thread :D

I :heart: ''someone in the dark" , its so beautiful!

I reckon his LITD girl did say thank you and im sure he was thankful to her too. That is what true love is about being grateful & thank ful for having that someone in ur life that you can turn to no matter what.

[Sdeidjs]

Hey queen welome to the thread :D

I :heart: ''someone in the dark" , its so beautiful!

I reckon his LITD girl did say thank you and im sure he was thankful to her too. That is what true love is about being grateful & thank ful for having that someone in ur life that you can turn to no matter what.

:punk:

As Always

:angel:

Giggles~~~This is absolutely precious..!

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Love Always

:angel:

"It's been said that a lot can be learned about what a person values by examining two things: their calendar and their bank statement.

They show where people spend their time and money. What do those things say about what YOU value?"

-John Maxwell

Love Always

:angel:

[MysteriousPhoenix]

... Something also got my attention and that was hearing ET in the middle of that song saying his "thank you" to Eliot (such a small, and seemingly inconsequential human boy...), in such a sweet, humble, deep and honest way...it has such meaning. The authenticity of it all, and the simplicity of ET's true heart. And then I began to think about MJ and his LITD girl.

Do you think if "she" had been blessed with the opportunity to speak to him in person, after all that time of waiting, that she would have in that same, pure, humble, deep and honest way, looked at him, and said to him so openly, such a "Thank you"...a transparent thank you so filled with gratitude and emotion for his having loved her and for believing in her in secret for so many, many years? How could the realization of that not overwhelm her with emotion and intense gratitude, how could she not have said to him with tear-filled eyes, "Thank you"?

She should thank her lucky stars, now and forever, for God having placed a man like that in her life.:yes:

[Lisha]

She should thank her lucky stars, now and forever, for God having placed a man like that in her life.:yes:

Hi, MP! :hug:

Yes, very, very true. :) There is no getting around the fact that Michael Jackson was a very special and unique and amazing, extraordinary man...the King of Pop afterall...a very beloved giant superstar. And I would be remiss to not include that heart of gold of his. We would all agree, too, I think, that he was beautiful from the inside out. :yes:

And one would say Elliot should thank his lucky stars for having the love and friendship of one also so extraordinary...an extaordinary being from another planet, an alien visitor.

But I wasn't comparing the LITD girl with Elliot, or viewing E.T. as the superstar Michael Jackson.

No, I was comparing the LITD girl with E.T.

E.T. was thankful to Elliot for being the one individual in the whole world who stuck by him and loved him with a pure heart. It didn't matter to E.T. what Elliot's standing was with those of the rest of the world, what mattered to E.T. was the boy's amazingly honest heart, and enduring love for him...that this boy truly wanted the friendship and connection with him, even though E.T. was different.

I guess what I'm saying, is perhaps the kind of "Thank you" I am referring to that MJ's LITD would maybe have extended to him, if given the chance (and like we say, she might have had the chance), would have more to do with her, than who he is in the world's eyes, and even if he wasn't Michael Jackson, but any guy that showed her after all these years he kept steadfast in his love for her, that any ol' guy would get that same "Thank you."

Does that make sense?

In fact, come to think of it, I know a real life story, a gal who had a high school boyfriend, but in this case he was very on fire for God and she wasn't so much, and he felt God was telling him to not be in a relationship at that time with a girl. So he broke up with her and it broke her heart, but she tried to understand. Then they graduated and they went their separate ways.

In the meantime she got away from God, and began a life that many do when they are feeling lost and confused. She ended up marrying a man who didn't believe in God at all, and had a baby with him, and then this little family moved across the street from my close friend...about six years ago. My friend in the meantime asks God to please use her in the neighborhood to draw others to Him...and soon her own little girl befriends their little girl. And over time, my friend did in fact draw this gal back to the Lord. The gal has a beautiful heart for God now. Unfortunately her marriage became impossible and a divorce happened.

One month after the divorce her brother tells her someone was asking about her on his facebook account...it was her high school boyfriend. So the two of them started connecting with one another through facebook and she tells him she is following the Lord closely these days, and he tells her he never, ever stopped praying for her and thinking about her throughout the years. He told her he was asking God to please let him find her one day.

They are getting married in June.

How do you think she felt when this man told her how his heart remained pointed towards her all those years? Humbled? Incredibly grateful? And this is no Michael Jackson. He is just a man. But then again, so is Michael Jackson.

[MysteriousPhoenix]

... But I wasn't comparing the LITD girl with Elliot, or viewing E.T. as the superstar Michael Jackson.

No, I was comparing the LITD girl with E.T.

E.T. was thankful to Elliot for being the one individual in the whole world who stuck by him and loved him with a pure heart. It didn't matter to E.T. what Elliot's standing was with those of the rest of the world, what mattered to E.T. was the boy's amazingly honest heart, and enduring love for him...that this boy truly wanted the friendship and connection with him, even though E.T. was different.

I guess what I'm saying, is perhaps the kind of "Thank you" I am referring to that MJ's LITD would maybe have extended to him, if given the chance (and like we say, she might have had the chance), would have more to do with her, than who he is in the world's eyes, and even if he wasn't Michael Jackson, but any guy that showed her after all these years he kept steadfast in his love for her, that any ol' guy would get that same "Thank you."

Does that make sense?

Yep. However ... what about the fact that he wasn't just an ordinary guy? Wouldn't that have added a new demension to all of this that cannot be denied? It would have been powerful enough if it had been just "any guy" like you said, but the fact that he was who he was, wouldn't that have made it seem all the more dream-like or surreal to her? Would she sometimes think she is just dreaming or it's all in her head sometimes?





How do you think she felt when this man told her how his heart remained pointed towards her all those years? Humbled? Incredibly grateful? And this is no Michael Jackson. He is just a man. But then again, so is Michael Jackson.

This is so touching what you wrote. It seems hard to see him as "just a man" sometimes, but I guess in spite of his extreme talent and fame, and not to mention all the other things that make him special and unique, underneath it all lies a simple man with simple needs.

[tha]

This is so touching what you wrote. It seems hard to see him as "just a man" sometimes, but I guess in spite of his extreme talent and fame, and not to mention all the other things that make him special and unique, underneath it all lies a simple man with simple needs.

:clapping:

It is exactly I always say ... despite all his greatness, he is just a person, a human. He cries, bleeds and all the other things we all do, but he has something that few have ... overcoming ! :yes:

[Sdeidjs]

Yep. However ... what about the fact that he wasn't just an ordinary guy? Wouldn't that have added a new demension to all of this that cannot be denied? It would have been powerful enough if it had been just "any guy" like you said, but the fact that he was who he was, wouldn't that have made it seem all the more dream-like or
surreal to her? Would she sometimes think she is just dreaming or it's all in her head sometimes?





This is so touching what you wrote. It seems hard to see him as "just a man" sometimes, but I guess in spite of his extreme talent and fame, and not to mention all the other things that make him special and unique, underneath it all lies a simple man with simple needs.


:punk:

As Always

:angel:

[Lisha]

Yep. However ...
I love your "howevers" lol. :)



what about the fact that he wasn't just an ordinary guy? Wouldn't that have added a new demension to all of this that cannot be denied?
Yeah, undoubtedly. Agreed.


It would have been powerful enough if it had been just "any guy" like you said, but the fact that he was who he was, wouldn't that have made it seem all the more dream-like or surreal to her? Would she sometimes think she is just dreaming or it's all in her head sometimes?
You make excellent points, MP. I think it is unfortunate though, that his being who he was in his celebrity had to always be present in her way of evaluating things. Too hard to think of him without remembering his famous side, I guess. Bummer. I wonder if she ever wished, once finding this man who she felt she belonged with so well, was not a celebrity. And if she did like the way he was a celebrity...hmm...I kinda wonder about her. I guess I kind of like to envision her liking him first and then snapping her fingers like "oh, shoot, he would have to be a celebrity....maaan!" but then quickly said (and I always remember this young wise sixteen year old girl saying this once) "Well, ya gotta take them as they come!" (She actually married that guy two years later, and she had said that in response to her friend laughing and pointing out that he was wearing shorts to work which revealed a pair of legs a little on the thin side).


This is so touching what you wrote. It seems hard to see him as "just a man" sometimes, but I guess in spite of his extreme talent and fame, and not to mention all the other things that make him special and unique, underneath it all lies a simple man with simple needs.
I seem to feel he would have agreed with you there.


... but he has something that few have ... overcoming ! :yes:
Very true, tha. I could use a little more of that "overcoming" trait of his. He seemed to really have it down.

[MysteriousPhoenix]

:punk:


As Always

:angel:

Thank you, Sdeidjs.:)





I love your "howevers" lol. :)

Haha! Well, ya know, I have to ensert an "however" every so often ... just to keep things interesting!:cheeky:





You make excellent points, MP. I think it is unfortunate though, that his being who he was in his celebrity had to always be present in her way of evaluating things. Too hard to think of him without remembering his famous side, I guess. Bummer. I wonder if she ever wished, once finding this man who she felt she belonged with so well, was not a celebrity. And if she did like the way he was a celebrity...hmm...


Yeah, talk about your mixed feelings. I mean, the fact that he was a celebrity added another level of excitement to the relationship I guess, but at the same time, I would imagine being involved with a celebrity would be a big pain in the you-know-what (especially if she was not famous herself)!





I kinda wonder about her. I guess I kind of like to envision her liking him first and then snapping her fingers like "oh, shoot, he would have to be a celebrity....maaan!" but then quickly said (and I always remember this young wise sixteen year old girl saying this once) "Well, ya gotta take them as they come!" (She actually married that guy two years later, and she had said that in response to her friend laughing and pointing out that he was wearing shorts to work which revealed a pair of legs a little on the thin side).

:lol: What a great line! Especially in light of who we are talking about! This would be a great thing to tell all her family and friends, wouldn't it? A runner-up to this line could be: "Life is like a box of chocolates - ya never know whatcha gonna get!" lol!





Very true, tha. I could use a little more of that "overcoming" trait of his. He seemed to really have it down.

Yes, he did! I'll have a little of that too, please! :angel:

[Sdeidjs]

Thank you, Sdeidjs.:)



Haha! Well, ya know, I have to ensert an "however" every so often ... just to keep things interesting!:cheeky:




Yeah, talk about your mixed feelings. I mean, the fact that he was a celebrity added another level of excitement to the relationship I guess, but at the same time, I would imagine being involved with a celebrity would be a big pain in the you-know-what (especially if she was not famous herself)!




:lol: What a great line! Especially in light of who we are talking about! This would be a great thing to tell all her family and friends, wouldn't it? A runner-up to this line could be: "Life is like a box of chocolates - ya never know whatcha gonna get!" lol!




Yes, he did! I'll have a little of that too, please! :angel:


Your very welcome..!

As Always

:angel:

Despite what so many may have thought throughout Mr.Jackson's lifetime...

The fame, fortune, and God given talent could not ever be compared to being "truly loved" as "human being"..!

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"Image is not everything...It's not about what is on the outside that counts...it has always been about, what truly counts, is on the inside..!

Love Always

:angel:

[Lisha]

Sdeidjs, I have a question for you, and maybe you can help me understand. Why, after a staff member has been in here several times reminding us all not to double post are you still doing it? Do you not realize that it makes you appear to be purposely defying the rules here on MJJC?

If you do not know how to edit new content into your post let us know so we can teach you, otherwise it will look like you are having a rebellious attitude. Let us help.

[Sdeidjs]

Sdeidjs, I have a question for you, and maybe you can help me understand. Why, after a staff member has been in here several times reminding us all not to double post are you still doing it? Do you not realize that it makes you appear to be purposely defying the rules here on MJJC?

If you do not know how to edit new content into your post let us know so we can teach you, otherwise it will look like you are having a rebellious attitude. Let us help.

Dear Queen,
In contractual law and or the law of life...It is said to "never" assume ANYTHING..!

I am NOT trying to defy ANYONE nor am I trying to break ANY of the rules...

Therefore,
With no disrespect intended, If a MJJC Mods have a personal issue with my posts then it is "their job" to notify me via PM.

Should a member have a problem with my posts then report it to the proper authorities of MJJC and/or contact me "privately".

It is extremely unprofessional and very disrespectful to address personal issue (s) (whatever those may be) in a public forum..!


As Always
:angel:

[Lorraine]

Dear Queen,
In contractual law and or the law of life...It is said to "never" assume ANYTHING..!

I am NOT trying to defy ANYONE nor am I trying to break ANY of the rules...

Therefore,
With no disrespect intended, If a MJJC Mods have a personal issue with my posts then it is "their job" to notify me via PM.

Should a member have a problem with my posts then report it to the proper authorities of MJJC and/or contact me "privately".

It is extremely unprofessional and very disrespectful to address personal issue (s) (whatever those may be) in a public forum..!


As Always
:angel:

There is no need for me to send a PM as well as ask in the thread for you to put an end to it. We ask many times in threads for something to stop so it isn't very unprofessional. You have responded in this thread when I have addressed it and appologised yet still carry on? Can this please be the last time I have to ask?

Many thanks. :flowers:

[Sdeidjs]

There is no need for me to send a PM as well as ask in the thread for you to put an end to it. We ask many times in threads for something to stop so it isn't very unprofessional. You have responded in this thread when I have addressed it and appologised yet still carry on? Can this please be the last time I have to ask?

Many thanks. :flowers:

Like I said, "very unprofessional", "extremely disrespectful" to personally address/personally "attack the intelligence" of members on the MJJ Community public forum...Apparently some people in society feel the "need" to have "power trips" in the "public" arena..!

At Any Rate:

Rules are Rules...

I am a "very busy" legal professional and do not have time for petty tabloidish induendos..!

Many Many More Thanks..!

:angel:

[IxxTreasuredSoulxxI]

wow I wish I were patient enough to read all this :lol:

[Lisha]

Like I said, "very unprofessional", "extremely disrespectful" to personally address/personally "attack the intelligence" of members on the MJJ Community public forum...Apparently some people in society feel the "need" to have "power trips" in the "public" arena..!

At Any Rate:

Rules are Rules...

I am a "very busy" legal professional and do not have time for petty tabloidish induendos..!

Many Many More Thanks..!

:angel:

Well, let me address this if I may. I am not trying to be professional or unprofessional. I am not trying to be respectful or be disrespectful. I am not trying to attain power. Just so you know that. What I am doing is asking one person on even ground with me a question. I am seeking to understand why you keep double posting after being told not to, and inquiring if the reason is because you don't know how to edit, which is giving you the benefit of the doubt. Isn't it?

If we can help you learn how to edit then all will be good. No more double posting! Why should you have a problem with this? It's quite simple.

So this shouldn't be taken personally. Just correct the situation and things will be okay.

Let me explain... when one member does a whole bunch of posts in a row it can take away from the thread. Many sites all over the net have this "no double posting rule" in place. Enforcing that rule doesn't mean anyone is personally against the member, it's just to keep the forum tidy. MJJC actually I have noted is more leniant than many sites out there regarding this rule...they allow a member here and there to double post. It's just when it seems excessive they step in for the good of the site or the particular thread. Nothing ever personal in it. :no:

Don't be offended. It is just a rule to follow. Okay?

[Sdeidjs]

Well, let me address this if I may. I am not trying to be professional or unprofessional. I am not trying to be respectful or be disrespectful. I am not trying to attain power. Just so you know that. What I am doing is asking one person on even ground with me a question. I am seeking to understand why you keep double posting after being told not to, and inquiring if the reason is because you don't know how to edit, which is giving you the benefit of the doubt. Isn't it?

If we can help you learn how to edit then all will be good. No more double posting! Why should you have a problem with this? It's quite simple.

So this shouldn't be taken personally. Just correct the situation and things will be okay.

Let me explain... when one member does a whole bunch of posts in a row it can take away from the thread. Many sites all over the net have this "no double posting rule" in place. Enforcing that rule doesn't mean anyone is personally against the member, it's just to keep the forum tidy. MJJC actually I have noted is more leniant than many sites out there regarding this rule...they allow a member here and there to double post. It's just when it seems excessive they step in for the good of the site or the particular thread. Nothing ever personal in it. :no:

Don't be offended. It is just a rule to follow. Okay?

Throughout the many moons...THIS has NOT been the first time MJJC Mods and or Members have done this to other members...

Again,like I said, "very unprofessional", "extremely disrespectful" to personally address/personally "attack the intelligence" of members on the MJJ Community PUBLIC forum...Apparently some people in society feel the "need" to have "power trips" in the "public" arena..!

On THAT note:

Once you can consistently maintain your frequency, without going up and down on the emotional rollar coaster, you'll be given a task...your divine blueprint. If this message didn't sink in the first time, I invite you to have a second read. It's the begining of what I suspect will be some very expanding messages from my favorite friend, and the understanding which supports this; of maintaining our frequncy and stabilizing our emotions.

"Author Unknown"

As Always

:angel:

[Lisha]

Again,like I said,"very unprofessional", "extremely disrespectful" to personally address/personally "attack the intelligence" of members on the MJJ Community PUBLIC forum...Apparently some people in society feel the "need" to have "power trips" in the "public" arena..!

Okay, so then...


On THAT note:

Once you can consistently maintain your frequency, without going up and down on the emotional rollar coaster, you'll be given a task...your divine blueprint. If this message didn't sink in the first time, I invite you to have a second read. It's the begining of what I suspect will be some very expanding messages from my favorite friend, and the understanding which supports this of maintaining of our frequncy and stabilizing our emotions.

"Author Unknown"

As Always

:angel:
...why didn't you PM me that message? ;)

I would never intentionally try to insult anyone's intelligence. I would not be a bit surprised if you were quite a bit more intelligent than I am. Many, many are. You might even be a better person than I am, and much more impressive. These things have nothing to do with you simply not complying with what a Mod has asked you to do.

And why should it matter to me what your un-named friend might think about me? If he was Michael Jackson himself, it wouldn't matter to me or cause me to change my ways. There is no one you could know who could affect me in such a way. But I can suspect who this might be from what I am picking up in my spirit, and I think they know it, too...the psychic individual they are.

Sdeidjs, I gave you a chance to respond to my question at the start in a humble and honest way. All you had to say was "I no way would want to give off an impressive of being uncooperative with staff and the reason I haven't complied is because I don't know how to edit my posts." Then I would have gladly helped you learn how to do that, and we would have moved on. Instead, your response has shown me something is very off here.

Attack me some more under the guidance of your confidant, if you wish, in your next post. I will not take the bait.

[Sdeidjs]

Okay, so then...


...why didn't you PM me that message? ;)

I would never intentionally try to insult anyone's intelligence. I would not be a bit surprised if you were quite a bit more intelligent than I am. Many, many are. You might even be a better person than I am, and much more impressive. These things have nothing to do with you simply not complying with what a Mod has asked you to do.

And why should it matter to me what your un-named friend might think about me? If he was Michael Jackson himself, it wouldn't matter to me or cause me to change my ways. There is no one you could know who could affect me in such a way. But I can suspect who this might be from what I am picking up in my spirit, and I think they know it, too...the psychic individual they are.

Sdeidjs, I gave you a chance to respond to my question at the start in a humble and honest way. All you had to say was "I no way would want to give off an impressive of being uncooperative with staff and the reason I haven't complied is because I don't know how to edit my posts." Then I would have gladly helped you learn how to do that, and we would have moved on. Instead, your response has shown me something is very off here.

Attack me some more under the guidance of your confidant, if you wish, in your next post. I will not take the bait.

With no disrespect intended...This IS NOT about you..!

"It's ALL About The L.O.V.E..~"

Case Closed..!


Therefore...MOVING ON...to what THIS thread IS all about~~~

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:angel:

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:angel: :wub:

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Dedicated to of US who are very fortunate to have (a) Best Friend (s) out there...

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:angel: :wub:

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Love Always~~~

:angel: :angel: :wub:

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:angel:

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:angel: "Very Pretty~~~"

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As Always~~~

:angel:

[Ashtanga]

:unsure:



http://poetryforpeace.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/michael-jackson11.jpg :angel:

[Sdeidjs]

Dear Ladies & Gents...

With absolutely NO disrespect intended...!

In "HONOR" of Mr.Michael Jackson~~~

"GOD" Written By Mr.Michael Jackson..."

"WITHOUT FURTHER A Doooo~~~"

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:angel: :wub: :punk:

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Love Always & Forever~~~

:angel:

[Lisha]

Thanks for editing in your post, Sdeidjs...you did good! :hug:


Now to the person who knows who I am talking to, who is not a regular in this thread, but they know who they are... take this as a warning. God has had enough of your deception and He is getting ready to expose you and free her from your hold. Get ready. You cannot fight and win against the Living God. He's had enough. You, the counterfeiter. She's going to wake up and see, you wait. God will not let this continue indefinately.

Now I understand things, Sdeidjs, and I am not fighting against you at all. Please know that. :hug:

[Rubi]

Sdeidjs, Queen G :hug:

----

For some time far in this discussion. Passing to say hello to everyone ....
And remember that not to find true love does not nullify his existence ....


SL0QCp0sWQo&


:girl_in_love:

[Sdeidjs]

Thanks for editing in your post, Sdeidjs...you did good! :hug:


Now to the person who knows who I am talking to, who is not a regular in this thread, but they know who they are... take this as a warning. God has had enough of your deception and He is getting ready to expose you and free her from your hold. Get ready. You cannot fight and win against the Living God. He's had enough. You, the counterfeiter. She's going to wake up and see, you wait. God will not let this continue indefinately.


Now I understand things, Sdeidjs, and I am not fighting against you at all. Please know that. :hug:

I'm a lover...:wub: NOT a fighter...no worries..! :cheeky:

[Sdeidjs]

Can I Pick Um or What...Congrads 2009 American Idol Winner Lee Dewyze...VERY PROUD~~~

Hallelujah

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Boxer

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Fireflies

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Lips of An Angel~~~

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With Out Further A Dooo~~~

"Beautiful Day"

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Love Always~~~:punk:
:angel:

[Rubi]

Sdeidjs
Firefliesssss.. I LOVEEEE this music...

A person that I consider very special who showed me this song .. in a very special moment too. Shortly after opening my eyes to a new light ...

Thank you for this reminder.

[Sdeidjs]

Sdeidjs

Firefliesssss.. I LOVEEEE this music...

A person that I consider very special who showed me this song .. in a very special moment too. Shortly after opening my eyes to a new light ...

Thank you for this reminder.


Fireflies

A Gift...from "US" to YOU~~~

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"No matter what happens" throughout "our" journey in life...."NEVER STOP" going after "YOUR" many "Hopes & Dreams" cause in the end the "ONLY" person that YOU have to look at is THAT Man/Woman In The Mirror..!"

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On THAT note...

Getting back to what this Thread is ALL about...This composition Rocks!!!!

Let's Dance~~~

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Love Always~~~

:angel:

[Ashtanga]

Fireflies

A Gift...from "US" to YOU~~~

"No matter what happens" throughout "our" journey in life...."NEVER STOP" going after "YOUR" many "Hopes & Dreams" cause in the end the "ONLY" person that YOU have to look at is THAT Man/Woman In The Mirror..!"


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Love Always~~~

:angel:
Beautiful! :wild: :wub: I had not seen. Man in the mirror always makes me cry.... :cry: :heart:

Thanks for posting! :)

[Lisha]

A Gift...from "US" to YOU~~~

Sdeidjs, I am so sad to still be seeing this reference to "US."

Please know I am not saying this to be mean, but because I care.

There is no "US."

You are being deceived by someone who is not who you think. Yes, they are that good. The way things are set up I can sense you have no one in your life to speak truth to you....now that I am understanding, I cannot let this go. I am fighting for you; I am standing in the gap for you, and one day you will understand.

Part of the reason I am posting these things publically is because I need others to join me in praying for you. What is going on here against you is STRONG. I believe it is no accident that so many who come to this thread are godly women who know how to pray. We have the lovely Brazillian girls who pray. We have AllForMJ, Moddie, Ape, MP and SoS who have had a close relationship with God for years, and believe me, they pray! And there are others. We have in a way a sisterhood in this thread, and when one of us is hurting, we all hurt and when someone needs our help, we reach out our hands...and we pray. Susie, you need our help and we are here for you because of how much God loves you and how He wants to rescue you from this situation.

The person who you feel is your special friend is lying to you and they are telling you lies about others so you will stay in the deception with no one to help you.

This person wasn't counting on someone being bold enough to say such things in a post. But I don't care what other people think of me; right now I care about you because God cares about you and wants you free once and for all from this person. And this person's time is running out. There is a battle going on here and it will be fought and won with prayer. Lord, raise up your prayer warriors on our Susie's behalf!

[Sdeidjs]

Sdeidjs, Queen G :hug:

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For some time far in this discussion. Passing to say hello to everyone ....
And remember that not to find true love does not nullify his existence ....


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:girl_in_love:

Breathtaking..! Be "STILL" OUR HEARTS~~~

:punk:

As Always~~~

:angel:

[Sdeidjs]

Sdeidjs, I am so sad to still be seeing this reference to "US."

Please know I am not saying this to be mean, but because I care.

There is no "US."

You are being deceived by someone who is not who you think. Yes, they are that good. The way things are set up I can sense you have no one in your life to speak truth to you....now that I am understanding, I cannot let this go. I am fighting for you; I am standing in the gap for you, and one day you will understand.

Part of the reason I am posting these things publically is because I need others to join me in praying for you. What is going on here against you is STRONG. I believe it is no accident that so many who come to this thread are godly women who know how to pray. We have the lovely Brazillian girls who pray. We have AllForMJ, Moddie, Ape, MP and SoS who have had a close relationship with God for years, and believe me, they pray! And there are others. We have in a way a sisterhood in this thread, and when one of us is hurting, we all hurt and when someone needs our help, we reach out our hands...and we pray. Susie, you need our help and we are here for you because of how much God loves you and how He wants to rescue you from this situation.

The person who you feel is your special friend is lying to you and they are telling you lies about others so you will stay in the deception with no one to help you.

This person wasn't counting on someone being bold enough to say such things in a post. But I don't care what other people think of me; right now I care about you because God cares about you and wants you free once and for all from this person. And this person's time is running out. There is a battle going on here and it will be fought and won with prayer. Lord, raise up your prayer warriors on our Susie's behalf!

With NO disrespect intended...I have been around for many, many, many moons...I have SEEN/HEARD/EXPERIENCED "an abundance of things" ~~~Not only in life in general BUT more so in being an admirer of Mr.Michael Jackson and The Jackson Family... Not to sound like a "BIG" old duppa head...BUT...I am educated, have knowledge, AND experience not only in a (so called sheltered life) but ALSO with the school of "School Of Hard Knox..."


With ME "what one see's will "always" be what one gets..! Susie IS "just" ALWAYS being Susie...

Again with "NO" disrespect intended...To make a long story short ...I am a 48 year old busy, Legal Professional, and A Poor Law Student focused on children, the elderly, mother earth, the US Constitution, contractual, domestic and international law (s)...There IS way too much work to be done...AND...way too much to accomplish in "helping" to Heal The World...!~~~

If one (s) have a concern, or a personal issue AND/or just want to correspond....Professionally/Personally Speaking...Please feel free to Private Message me or send me an personal email at sdeidjs@aol.com and or www.facebook.com - Susie Deeds

Thank You in advance for all your assistance in this matter.

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So you see...

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I appreciate YOUR and anyone else that has a concern...I "truly" do..!

NO worries..."TRUST ME..!

God Bless
Love Always~~~

:angel:

[Lisha]

Susie, just know I am in your corner fighting on your behalf. You don't need to understand now but one day you will understand. God is faithful. (by the way, and you might not have known this, but I'm quite a bit older than you). :hug:

[Sdeidjs]

Susie, just know I am in your corner fighting on your behalf. You don't need to understand now but one day you will understand.
God is faithful. (by the way, and you might not have known this, but
I'm quite a bit older than you). :hug:


:punk:

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God Bless~~~

:angel:

[Ashtanga]

We have the lovely Brazillian girls who pray. We have AllForMJ, Moddie, Ape, MP and SoS who have had a close relationship with God for years, and believe me, they pray! And there are others.
:hug:


:angel: :pray:



And...............





Eternal search for love

A unique and powerful feeling, which puts into our innermost secrets and desires.

When we feel real, just act, not by a simple impulse improper reason, but because what is inside the heart emanates so strongly, that it overflows like a volcano erupting.

When we think of the risks we run by the search of love, our conviction increases, the heart races, your hands sweat, breathing becomes breathless and a chill runs through the body.

If we lack courage at the moment, the sadness and loneliness overwhelmed us, along with a sense of helplessness and defeat. Otherwise, a new world opens before us. An unknown world, full of mystery that fascinates us and surrounds us in full.

A mixture of joy, achievement and accomplishment comes over our mind and heart. Eager to explore new and eternal emotions, ignore the fear, guilt and uncertainty. This achievement is priceless and still remains elusive.

A feeling immortal. Always real. Such strength is love that transforms us and sublimates a lifetime lived. In search of true love, sincerity becomes his main ally.

Where is the reason? Emotion.

In order to conquer all the happiness arising from love. Our confidence increases when observed some details, gestures, words or signs which become vital.

We arrived at the border between dream and reality. Limit that is only broken by those who believe purely on their feelings. Those who break this barrier, want others to do likewise, simply by showing the infinite rewards that true love brings to those earnestly seeking him.

But those who do not risk of heart and give up, spend the rest of their lives whining excuses for their disappointments and even become skeptical about the existence of love.

We can conclude that "where there is no love, no life." Dream life and reality. Joining them, we will be happy.

Love... feeling more valuable than we have in life. The more we can feel it even more we can demonstrate it. Not even death can extinguish it from our hearts.

You also expect to find it?

Surrender body and soul, mind and heart and make your reality a dream unforgettable and immortal.

At the end of his life, you'll see how it all worth it and you want to do it all again.

:yes:

:heart:




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:wub:


:cheeky:


:cheers:

[MysteriousPhoenix]

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[Ashtanga]

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I like this song.... :yes: :wub:

Thanks for posting! :)


And your siggy is mesmerizing...... :wild: :naughty: :heart:

[Lisha]

That is a nifty siggy, MP! I have had the obtion to view avies and siggys turned off for a long while, but I enabled them briefly just to check yours out. I like it. :) I bet you knew on one enchanted evening I'd see your siggy. :lol:


Somethings to think about. Interestingly there is a film recently released called "Letters to Juliet" produced by Applehead Productions. O.o

One of the love story lines involves a woman who when in her late teens visited Italy and meets a young man and they fall in love. When it comes time for her to make the decision to return to the US or to stay and begin her life with him she vaccilates. But as far as he knows she is going to meet him at an appointed time...instead, because of fear, she changes her mind and just leaves him waiting there for her as she returns home and begins a different life. Now in her sixties something has given her hope she can find him after all these years to be able to tell him how sorry she was for leaving him like that and that it was a mistake and it was because she was afraid. It seems that she is also having some hope that maybe, just maybe, she will get another chance at true love with him. It seems like this film is going to be both light and sweet.

Another film, which is adapted from a novel, is Love in the Time of Cholera, but this is focused on the young man's side of the story and his struggles in life while staying emotionally committed to this girl he loved in his youth. Again, it takes until they are in their sixties before an opportunity finally comes for them to be together. This story, though, isn't as light because there are some darker themes going on in it.

At least in that true story I mentioned not too long ago of my friend's friend...she and her guy are in their early thirties, and haven't had to wait such a long time as the characters in the stories I've talked about above. Imagine having to wait twenty, thirty, or like the first two stories above...fifty years before true love with the person you are meant to be with is realized.

A song came into my head a little whie ago and it fits rather nicely with this theme. A Diana Ross song actually:

Someday we'll be together
Say, say, say it again
Someday we'll be together
Oh, yeh, oh yeah

You're far away
From me my love
And just as sure my, my baby
As there are stars above
I wanna say, I wanna say, I wanna say

Someday we'll be together
Yes we will, yes we will
Say, someday (some sweet day) we'll be together
I know, I know, I know, I know
My love is yours, baby

Oh, right form the start
You, you, you possess my soul now honey
And I know, I know you own my heart
And I wanna say:

Someday we'll be together
Some sweet day we'll be together
Yes we will, yes we wil
Someday (tell everybody) we'll be together

Long time ago
My, my sweet thing
I made a big mistake, honey
I said, I said goodbye
Oh, oh baby
Ever, ever, ever since that day
Now, now all I wanna do is cry, cry

Hey, hey, hey
I long for you every night
Just to kiss your sweet , sweet lips
Hold you ever, ever so tight
And I wanna say

Someday we'll be together
Yes we will, yes we will

[Sdeidjs]

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As Always

:angel:

[MysteriousPhoenix]

A song came into my head a little whie ago and it fits rather nicely with this theme. A Diana Ross song actually:

Someday we'll be together
Say, say, say it again
Someday we'll be together
Oh, yeh, oh yeah

You're far away
From me my love
And just as sure my, my baby
As there are stars above
I wanna say, I wanna say, I wanna say

Someday we'll be together
Yes we will, yes we will
Say, someday (some sweet day) we'll be together
I know, I know, I know, I know
My love is yours, baby

Oh, right form the start
You, you, you possess my soul now honey
And I know, I know you own my heart
And I wanna say:

Someday we'll be together
Some sweet day we'll be together
Yes we will, yes we wil
Someday (tell everybody) we'll be together

Long time ago
My, my sweet thing
I made a big mistake, honey
I said, I said goodbye
Oh, oh baby
Ever, ever, ever since that day
Now, now all I wanna do is cry, cry

Hey, hey, hey
I long for you every night
Just to kiss your sweet , sweet lips
Hold you ever, ever so tight
And I wanna say

Someday we'll be together
Yes we will, yes we will


:mello: OMGoodness! I was just listening to that song the other night on the radio, and I heard it again tonight before I came on here. That and "Enchanted Evening" are the two that have been following me around lately. Hmmm...




That is a nifty siggy, MP! I have had the obtion to view avies and siggys turned off for a long while, but I enabled them briefly just to check yours out. I like it. :) I bet you knew on one enchanted evening I'd see your siggy. :lol:


Thanks!:) I always thought MJ woulda been great in that role. That woulda been hella romantic!





At least in that true story I mentioned not too long ago of my friend's friend...she and her guy are in their early thirties, and haven't had to wait such a long time as the characters in the stories I've talked about above. Imagine having to wait twenty, thirty, or like the first two stories above...fifty years before true love with the person you are meant to be with is realized.


I know. Why is life so cruel like that sometimes? Or... is there a logical explaination for something like that? I think life is just too short. In a situation like that, you probably wouldn't be able to help but think about all that you missed with that person - holidays, the change of seasons, regular ol' ordinary days, having children with them, romancing, etc. Well, I'm sure you could fill in the rest. You'd probably feel you missed a lot, to put it simply. The sad thing is, in this life you can get just about everything back that you lost, but you can never get back TIME.:( Kinda reminds me of that song, "I Hope You Dance" by Lee Ann Womack, where the back-up singer sings the lyrics:

"Time is a wheel in constant motion, rolling us along. Tell me who wants to look back on their years and wonder where those years have gone.":boohoo:

[Lisha]

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I know. Why is life so cruel like that sometimes? Or... is there a logical explaination for something like that? I think life is just too short. In a situation like that, you probably wouldn't be able to help but think about all that you missed with that person - holidays, the change of seasons, regular ol' ordinary days, having children with them, romancing, etc. Well, I'm sure you could fill in the rest. You'd probably feel you missed a lot, to put it simply. The sad thing is, in this life you can get just about everything back that you lost, but you can never get back TIME. :( Kinda reminds me of that song, "I Hope You Dance" by Lee Ann Womack, where the back-up singer sings the lyrics, "Time is a wheel in constant motion, rolling us along. Tell me who wants to look back on their years and wonder where those years have gone.":boohoo:

What a great paragraph! Good stuff brought up in there.

I would think that knowing that you have missed the chance to have a baby together would be very hard. :( How beautiful to "make a baby" with the one you truly love. I remember bringing this couple up in the past, Johnny Cash and June Carter. They waited years to have the chance to be together (in a way that lined up with the Lord) but June was, I think, forty at the time and did get pregnant after they married and they had a son together. :) Aww, God was so good to them in that way. But if you are in your fifties or sixties...that is something it would seem you'd have to give up on, unless God pulls a Sarah and allows the woman to have a baby in her "old age."

What a coincidence that you've been hearing that song lately! It so strangely popped in my head, too...I seriously can't remember the last time I've heard it. Love those kinds of coincidences! Fun. :D

[MysteriousPhoenix]

What a great paragraph! Good stuff brought up in there.

I would think that knowing that you have missed the chance to have a baby together would be very hard. :( How beautiful to "make a baby" with the one you truly love.

Yeah, that does sound beautiful. I guess it also depends on a person's point of view. Some people figure, why create a child when there are so many out there needing to be adopted. Well, I can understand this. It's true. I guess it would be nice to do a little of both (if you have more stamina than I do! lol!).




I remember bringing this couple up in the past, Johnny Cash and June Carter. They waited years to have the chance to be together (in a way that lined up with the Lord) but June was, I think, forty at the time and did get pregnant after they married and they had a son together. :) Aww, God was so good to them in that way.

Aww, how sweet. You know, they really sound like a very interesting couple. The more you talk about them, the more you make me wanna see the movie about their lives. I think I will try to do just that!




But if you are in your fifties or sixties...that is something it would seem you'd have to give up on, unless God pulls a Sarah and allows the woman to have a baby in her "old age."

I know. Men can have children up until they are dead. Women have that dumb biological time clock thing going because we are cursed and everything. But then again, you have these Hollywood celebrities out there having babies older, even up to 50 years of age! God bless them! I don't know if I could do something like that. Sounds a little scary!




What a coincidence that you've been hearing that song lately! It so strangely popped in my head, too...I seriously can't remember the last time I've heard it. Love those kinds of coincidences! Fun. :D

What coincidence? There are no coincidences!:D

[Ashtanga]

"Time is a wheel in constant motion, rolling us along. Tell me who wants to look back on their years and wonder where those years have gone.":boohoo:
I always think about it... constantly. :cry: *big sigh*

[Lisha]

Aww, how sweet. You know, they really sound like a very interesting couple. The more you talk about them, the more you make me wanna see the movie about their lives. I think I will try to do just that!
You really should! Walk the Line. I remember June saying (read it somewhere...) at a time long after they were married that "I've always loved John, and he's always loved me." And yet, how sticky to admit that, for during most of that time he was married and a few times she was married as well. She wrote the lyrics to "Ring of Fire" because as she said herself at the time "I love a man I have no right to" and it burned... loving him hurt so bad. They couldn't be together. So it burned her in the inside like a ring of fire.




What coincidence? There are no coincidences!:D

Oh yeah, I forgot, that's this thread's motto, isn't it? :lol:

[MysteriousPhoenix]

You really should! Walk the Line. I remember June saying (read it somewhere...) at a time long after they were married that "I've always loved John, and he's always loved me." And yet, how sticky to admit that, for during most of that time he was married and a few times she was married as well. She wrote the lyrics to "Ring of Fire" because as she said herself at the time "I love a man I have no right to" and it burned... loving him hurt so bad. They couldn't be together. So it burned her in the inside like a ring of fire.


Wowza! What a story (and I just read the lyrics too; eventhough I was familiar with the song, I hadn't really paid that much attention to the lyrics before)! She really loved that man!

I guess when you really love someone, perhaps even believe that they are your soulmate, and you have to endure seeing them with their special someone and that someone ain't YOU, you really have nothing left but a burning "ring of fire" burning up your soul to mere ashes! Well, one can always rise from the ashes.:cheeky:

[Lisha]

Wowza! What a story (and I just read the lyrics too; eventhough I was familiar with the song, I hadn't really paid that much attention to the lyrics before)! She really loved that man!

I guess when you really love someone, perhaps even believe that they are your soulmate, and you have to endure seeing them with their special someone and that someone ain't YOU, you really have nothing left but a burning "ring of fire" burning up your soul to mere ashes! Well, one can always rise from the ashes.:cheeky:

I hope everyone is okay with you and I having our little conversation here. hahaha. Well, until others post...I guess...why not? I'll pretend I'm talkin' to ya on the phone. I love talking to my friends on the phone, but I worn ya, the convos always last for at least two hours!

Rise out of the ashes? That's easy for YOU to say Ms. Phoenix! lol. But how 'bout us regular joes? Us poor regular joes. Juuuuuuuuust teasin' ya. :)

The thing with June is she was truly a God-fearing woman. She made her mistakes, but her parents raised her in the church and in the Bible, and for her to be able to work out this strong love and attraction she had for John while he was still married was very convicting for her no doubt. A true inner struggle. This I believe is part of what that burning was about.

Once she weakened... and went to a level with John she perhaps should not have... she felt remorse and started to push him away so she would not repeat doing what she believed was wrong. And his response to her pushing him away is his yelling full of emotion, "This is NOT wrong!" But she knows it is. He's married, they can't be together. It is impied that he himself has such inner tumoil over this thing that he then turns to drugs to disassociate from the pain and the unrelenting longing he has for her.

Conviction works on us when we don't want to be doing something against God but we find we can't help it. Why John did not divorce his wife is unclear to me. I know often a divorce does not happen due to religious beliefs, like in the Catholic faith. That could have been a contributing factor to why Spencer Tracy never divorced his wife in order to be with Katherine Hepburn (to pull in another celebrity example). Quite sadly, John's wife knew that her husband was not in love with her. She knew he was in love with June. How hurtful. One day something happened that became the icing on the cake for his wife and she left him. They finally divorced. It seems the pull between John and June, was so very strong. Like it couldn't be denied.

Soul-mates? I don't know. Something pretty powerful. God did bring them together in the end.

AllForMJ posted something once that I thought was so good I jotted it down somewhere. Here, I'll take the time to type it in for you:

Yeah, things in this world can often cause people to veer off course, but L.O.V.E. is on its mission [here, I'll interject God, ~queen g :)] to bring two people together and its saying to them, "Hey, you two, you've been going the wrong way," it is going to win at the game of tug-a-war as it is stronger than both of them and everything around them that may be pulling them in two different directions."

Wasn't that insightful what she said? AllForMJ shares some great thoughts!
What she said really makes one want to believe in the power of love. And that is what this thread is all about.

[MysteriousPhoenix]

The thing with June is she was truly a God-fearing woman. She made her mistakes, but her parents raised her in the church and in the Bible, and for her to be able to work out this strong love and attraction she had for John while he was still married was very convicting for her no doubt. A true inner struggle. This I believe is part of what that burning was about.

Once she weakened... and went to a level with John she perhaps should not have... she felt remorse and started to push him away so she would not repeat doing what she believed was wrong. And his response to her pushing him away is his yelling full of emotion, "This is NOT wrong!" But she knows it is. He's married, they can't be together. It is impied that he himself has such inner tumoil over this thing that he then turns to drugs to disassociate from the pain and the unrelenting longing he has for her.

Conviction works on us when we don't want to be doing something against God but we find we can't help it.

Yes, I believe that if you are a person of faith and you also love someone, but they are married, or wind up getting married, this can really cause quite a moral dilema inside of you. I think when you are a person of faith and the one you love is married, you feel you have no choice but to push them away, as difficult and painful as it is to do. What else can one do? If you continue to have feelings for them, you get really convicted in your spirit, as you said, that you are having inappropriate feelings for someone who is married. Even if you believe they are your soulmate and the two of you belong together, it is still very difficult to come to terms with because they are married. They do not belong to you, whether you like it or not. And that's just the way it is. Well, that's how I would feel anyways. June was probably always trying her best to forget about him and move on. It's really a heartbreaking situation to be in.





AllForMJ posted something once that I thought was so good I jotted it down somewhere. Here, I'll take the time to type it in for you:

Yeah, things in this world can often cause people to veer off course, but L.O.V.E. is on its mission [here, I'll interject God, ~queen g :)] to bring two people together and its saying to them, "Hey, you two, you've been going the wrong way," it is going to win at the game of tug-a-war as it is stronger than both of them and everything around them that may be pulling them in two different directions."

Wasn't that insightful what she said? AllForMJ shares some great thoughts!
What she said really makes one want to believe in the power of love. And that is what this thread is all about.

:cheers:

[Ashtanga]

Yeah, things in this world can often cause people to veer off course, but L.O.V.E. is on its mission [here, I'll interject God, ~queen g :)] to bring two people together and its saying to them, "Hey, you two, you've been going the wrong way," it is going to win at the game of tug-a-war as it is stronger than both of them and everything around them that may be pulling them in two different directions."

:agree: Very true.

:wub:

[Lisha]

^ all credit for that quote goes to AllForMJ! :clap:



I always think about it... constantly. :cry: *big sigh*aww, does time seem to be going by quickly for you, too? *sighs right along with you*


Even if you believe they are your soulmate and the two of you belong together, it is still very difficult to come to terms with because they are married. They do not belong to you, whether you like it or not. And that's just the way it is. Well, that's how I would feel anyways.
I wonder if fans were able to "let go" of MJ this way very easily when he was married to LMP and DR? Did it make things harder if they felt that both times he was maybe not with the one he was supposed to be with...that something didn't seem quite right with the marriages? I wasn't around at that time to have observed fans reactions to the marriages. I have no idea how that all went down.




:cheers:
:cheers:

[Ashtanga]

aww, does time seem to be going by quickly for you, too? *sighs right along with you*

Yes..... *big sigh*

:hug:

[AllForMJ]

I finally found the time to get to these photos that I've promised, so here goes…

If you have been watching MJ over a long period of time you've probably noticed this cute pattern of his. Whenever he was in love, he would always:

* keep his hair looking sharp
* have a special twinkle in his eyes
* act cheerful and upbeat
* put out positive love songs
* openly convey his feelings
* and have fun with his wardrobe

If you have not noticed his pattern before, look at each of the pictures while scrolling down and you will see it. You're also gonna notice the time period when he was feeling very unhappy, lonely and unloved.

MJ Happy about His Girlfriends

http://floacist.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/mjstephaniemills.jpg
http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/2082/201282.jpg
http://s11.bdbphotos.com/images/orig/d/7/d754w6p73j0cw4pd.jpg
http://parlourmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/85354361_full_full.jpg
http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/252/33890933.jpg
http://media3.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/photo/gallery/090626/GAL-09Jun26-2231/media/PHO-09Jun26-167467.jpg
http://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/7800000/mj-diana-ross-michael-jackson-7805305-486-600.jpg
http://weblogs.cltv.com/news/local/chicago/michael%20and%20diana.jpg
http://sp9.fotolog.com/photo/57/48/74/youlliveforever/1249434998159_f.jpg
http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2009/specials/michaeljackson/couples/michael-jackson-2.jpg
http://www.thefinestwriter.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/michael_jackson_brooke_shields.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_7Bqr1I5gzyk/SlKtERVKCnI/AAAAAAAADwo/sp17Zih8eGs/s400/243999_michael-jackson-brooke-shields.jpg
http://www.mjj.altervista.org/immagini/gallerie/MJ_VIP/images/MJ%20&%20Brooke%20Shields_jpg.jpg
http://s11.acephotos.org/images/orig/z/a/zaw36xrmc4ei3wxi.jpg

MJ Happy about His Wives

http://www.mtv.com/news/photos/v/vma_09/nyc/vma94_michael_jackson.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Y-DbBvf7R5Y/SkS9PiPuyzI/AAAAAAAAYAA/K9nuM-Vif_w/s400/michael-jackson_47713168.jpg
http://www.bittenandbound.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/michael-jackson-and-lisa-marie-presley.jpg
http://snarkerati.com/celebrity-gossip/files/2009/06/lisa_marie_presley_michael_jackson.jpg
http://images.sodahead.com/profiles/0/0/1/0/8/6/4/4/6/michael-jackson-and-lisa-marie-presley-1268553599.jpeg
http://poponthepop.com/images/gallery/debbie-rowe-and-michael-jackson_385x455.jpg
http://images.mirror.co.uk/upl/m4/jun2009/6/1/image-7-for-michael-jackson-through-the-years-gallery-118211614.jpg
http://dangerouslee.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/debbie-rowe.jpg
http://s12.bdbphotos.com/images/120x156/c/w/cwsqaro8s8exxs8.jpg

MJ Heartbroken After the Two Divorces
(During this period in 2001 he was releasing multiple love songs that were filled with sorrow. If you need a reminder, listen to his Invincible CD. Also, the expression on his face in these next two photos matches with the sad love songs.)

http://i00.rnhh.de/eu/shared-images/filmdotcom/assets/rn/img/0/5/9/5/21865950-21865953-large.jpg
http://www.usmagazine.com/uploads/assets/articles/26813-attorney-michael-jackson-had-pulse-when-found/michael-jackson-b_6.jpg

MJ After Finding Someone New to Love and Have Love Him in Return
(Notice how much he's perked up in 2002 and that he had released "One More Chance" the very next year.)

http://blogetty.com/pics/2007_09/Michael_Jackson_1.jpg

MJ Having Fun in 2003

http://www.exposay.com/celebrity-photos/michael-jackson-michael-jackson-receives-18kZzS.jpg
http://www.blackamericaweb.com/files/slideshow/16.mj.jpg
http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2009/06/26/gal_j05.jpg
http://www.mjfanclub.net/home/images/stories/clubcorner/activities/party2.jpg

The things that he's saying in "One More Chance" are revealing he wasn't just having simple thoughts about someone. He was having serious feelings for her. There is no way that any kind of love, like love from an indecisive person, could have gotten him through what was coming next. He needed true love or it was not going to be enough for him. The photos from 2001 are showing us that he was very weary back then. If he had stayed that way and had been dragged through that unwarranted trial too, he would not have been able to cope with all of that. He would have died before 2009. Thank God he received what he had been searching for, and that she brought it to him in time as he said in “The Way You Love Me.”

Love that is not just passed on to someone as a mere figure of speech, but is acted upon in its true form and purpose, that is the kind of love that is sent by God Himself, and it works wonders when the one on the receiving end and the one on the giving end are both obedient to God simultaneously. It does exactly what God created it to do. Since MJ always gave love freely, he would be able to tell if the love he is receiving is real or not. Plus, love that is not real cannot hold up under strain and/or pressure. Only true love can and this is how all should be able to tell that true love is indeed what MJ had received.

Look at him...

MJ with the Strength of a Thousand Men
(A year later, in 2004, he releases a love song where he repeats the words, "I'm in love...")

http://static.tvguide.com/MediaBin/Galleries/Celebrities/M_R/Mic_Mid/Michael_Jackson/1/michael-jackson32.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_TaxXgIl53bQ/Sky6DFLZfxI/AAAAAAAAAHM/qp1K-Ix9qD4/s400/Michael+Jackson+child-molestation+not+guilty+2004.jpg

MJ Fighting with Pride...
(There are too many gorgeous photos to post at once)

http://www.mjfanclub.net/home/images/stories/newsarchive/michael_atcourt_august16_303x409.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Q-hKKJsMwvc/SkWjBF9WQ-I/AAAAAAAACp0/2BETW2HJV3c/s400/FP_3197517_ANG_Jackson_Archive_062509.jpg
http://news.puggal.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/michael-jackson4.jpg
http://therobalution.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/jackson.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_qfj6el71ckQ/SkRW-5wCeKI/AAAAAAAAFVM/CPZ3_nGePAQ/s400/MichaelJackson2.jpg
http://www.topnews.in/light/files/Michael-Jackson_0.jpg

Going the Full Distance to Prove His Innocence

http://cache2.asset-cache.net/xc/53062567.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=77BFBA49EF878921F7C3FC3F69D929FDD0D7D5B3101937CB 6A3D1DF78474B9E0CE4CFE091A665FEBF06BF04B24B4128C
http://images.mirror.co.uk/upl/dailyrecord3/jun2009/9/3/image-20-for-michael-jackson-history-in-pictures-gallery-927746687.jpg
http://cache4.asset-cache.net/xc/53062620.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=77BFBA49EF878921F7C3FC3F69D929FD187D89DAEF3FB0DB 3146155217F83037A7C2E19E4841782EF06BF04B24B4128C

The Battle is Won and Documented as the World Waited for the Final Outcome

http://cache3.asset-cache.net/xc/53062750.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=77BFBA49EF878921F7C3FC3F69D929FD68E41E4C485CCCFC 3146155217F8303797BAFAD0A523875DF06BF04B24B4128C
http://cdn.picapp.com/ftp/Images/b/3/3/b/Verdict_in_the_7288.jpg
http://photos.upi.com/slideshow/lbox/e0b43232e9f6dda0cdc99bcdab581eff/MICHAEL-JACKSON-TRIAL.jpg

MJ Still Happily in Love After the Battle Has Been Won
(He's now glowing more than ever before and more positive love songs are beginning to surface. There goes the twinkle in his eyes, that beautiful smile, his hair is looking sharp and he's having fun with his clothes. See that?)

http://www.freewebs.com/innocentmichael/michael%20%28%207th%20October%202005%29-small.jpg
http://www.freewebs.com/innocentmichael/November%2014,%202005-small.jpg
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk262/evebest/MJJ/wowww.jpg
http://dailyblabber.ivillage.com/entertainment/michaeljackson1.jpg
http://cm1.theinsider.com/media/0/94/39/michael_jackson_feels_wise_and_sage_but_not_little _boys_main_4482.0.0.0x0.340x399.jpeg

Wanna see just how well he was doing and how much he had bounced back? These two photos will let you all see just how much! There are many years between these two photos, but it doesn’t seem like it because he is feeling joy in both, and he always looks a certain way when he is happy.

http://www.mahiram.com/wp-content/gallery/mahirams-tribute-to-michael-jackson-dangerous-era/michael-jackson_dangerousera-15.jpg
http://www.etonline.com/media/photo/2009/07/100169/400_mjackson_ebony_cover_090707.jpg

And there is no WAY that we can forget that he brought back the curls! He started having fun with his hair again just like back in the day.

http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/4696/mjcrop.jpg

He Steps Back on Stage

http://www.algoafm.co.za/assets/images/0629_mj_rehearsal_0000_layer_4_full.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_ZXQetnOp3zQ/Su9bXjEfwNI/AAAAAAAAAFg/KdXtEVpT9as/s400/37619188.jpg
http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/500/35173425/Michael+Jackson+Michael+rehearsing+for+This+Is.png
http://img.youtube.com/vi/HKUSa2G1MeA/0.jpg

queen g, I think it was you that had noticed that MJ had added new words to "Human Nature" during his rehearsal for "This Is It." He added the words, "Keeping her around" and "Why does she do me this way?"

Keeping her around is 0:38 - 0:43 into the below video. Why does she do me this way is around 3:33. It's very interesting that he would add these lines to the song "Human Nature."

"Human Nature" from "This Is It" Rehearsal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEV7rvCnqMM&feature=related

Look at the hand gesture that he's doing while singing "Why does she do me this way?" His hand gesture is revealing that he really wanted to know as if it was mind boggling to him. Yet at the same time, there was one thing that he was certain of, and that is that he wanted to keep her around.

Also, in "This Is It" he mentions the word "understand," as he has in other songs, but there is something different about the way that he used it this time in comparison to how he used it a couple of albums back. For example, in the songs "Give In To Me" and "Childhood," he used it in a way that shows disappointment.

Verse from "Give In To Me"
I've spent a lifetime looking for someone
Don't try to understand me
Just simply do the things I say

Verse from "Childhood"
I'm searching for the world that I come from
'Cause I've been looking around
In the lost and found of my heart
No one understands me

Notice that he has identical things going on in the verses of these two songs. In both of the verses he is searching and in both there is a feeling of not being understood.

The way the word understand is being used in "This Is It" shows just how gentle he was being with his lady friend while trying to let her know that he had fallen in love with her.

* C'mon baby, just understand (he said it this way twice in the song)
* C'mon please dear, understand
* C'mon dear, please understand

By the way, I think it was MysteriousPhoenix that had noticed MJ said this line several different ways. If we listen to the original song as it is being sung by Sapphire, we will notice that MJ made changes to these lines. She’s saying the line one way each time. MJ is saying it three different ways.

The lyrics for "This Is It" are revealing that he was happy about being in love again. He sounded like he had given up on being understood some time ago, but the line "And you said you really know me too yourself," which is also in "This Is It," shows he had finally gotten passed all of that stuff. Notice that he's fascinated with his lady friend telling him that she knows him, but he's trying to make it clear to her that a little more has happened than that.

Yep, things were going very well for MJ in the love arena before he passed away. It brought him back to life before he died. That's how he turned his life around and got things back on track.

(Now, after forty years of entertaining the world, it looks like God is having him entertain the world no more. 2009 really was it and it seems like God wanted MJ's final performances on stage to be purely for his enjoyment instead of it being for work.)

Does this end MJ's love story? No, not exactly, because love never dies. It travels beyond the dimensions, and MJ said his love for her is "For All Time."

So see? He did not leave the earth without having a chance to fall in love again. God took care of everything. MJ's demeanor, appearance and songs are letting us know.

:yes:

[Sdeidjs]

I finally found the time to get to these photos that I've promised, so here goes…

If you have been watching MJ over a long period of time you've probably noticed this cute pattern of his. Whenever he was in love, he would always:

* keep his hair looking sharp
* have a special twinkle in his eyes
* act cheerful and upbeat
* put out positive love songs
* openly convey his feelings
* and have fun with his wardrobe

If you have not noticed his pattern before, look at each of the pictures while scrolling down and you will see it. You're also gonna notice the time period when he was feeling very unhappy, lonely and unloved.

MJ Happy about His Girlfriends

http://floacist.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/mjstephaniemills.jpg
http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/2082/201282.jpg
http://s11.bdbphotos.com/images/orig/d/7/d754w6p73j0cw4pd.jpg
http://parlourmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/85354361_full_full.jpg
http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/252/33890933.jpg
http://media3.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/photo/gallery/090626/GAL-09Jun26-2231/media/PHO-09Jun26-167467.jpg
http://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/7800000/mj-diana-ross-michael-jackson-7805305-486-600.jpg
http://weblogs.cltv.com/news/local/chicago/michael%20and%20diana.jpg
http://sp9.fotolog.com/photo/57/48/74/youlliveforever/1249434998159_f.jpg
http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2009/specials/michaeljackson/couples/michael-jackson-2.jpg
http://www.thefinestwriter.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/michael_jackson_brooke_shields.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_7Bqr1I5gzyk/SlKtERVKCnI/AAAAAAAADwo/sp17Zih8eGs/s400/243999_michael-jackson-brooke-shields.jpg
http://www.mjj.altervista.org/immagini/gallerie/MJ_VIP/images/MJ%20&%20Brooke%20Shields_jpg.jpg
http://s11.acephotos.org/images/orig/z/a/zaw36xrmc4ei3wxi.jpg

MJ Happy about His Wives

http://www.mtv.com/news/photos/v/vma_09/nyc/vma94_michael_jackson.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Y-DbBvf7R5Y/SkS9PiPuyzI/AAAAAAAAYAA/K9nuM-Vif_w/s400/michael-jackson_47713168.jpg
http://www.bittenandbound.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/michael-jackson-and-lisa-marie-presley.jpg
http://snarkerati.com/celebrity-gossip/files/2009/06/lisa_marie_presley_michael_jackson.jpg
http://images.sodahead.com/profiles/0/0/1/0/8/6/4/4/6/michael-jackson-and-lisa-marie-presley-1268553599.jpeg
http://poponthepop.com/images/gallery/debbie-rowe-and-michael-jackson_385x455.jpg
http://images.mirror.co.uk/upl/m4/jun2009/6/1/image-7-for-michael-jackson-through-the-years-gallery-118211614.jpg
http://dangerouslee.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/debbie-rowe.jpg
http://s12.bdbphotos.com/images/120x156/c/w/cwsqaro8s8exxs8.jpg

MJ Heartbroken After the Two Divorces
(During this period in 2001 he was releasing multiple love songs that were filled with sorrow. If you need a reminder, listen to his Invincible CD. Also, the expression on his face in these next two photos matches with the sad love songs.)

http://i00.rnhh.de/eu/shared-images/filmdotcom/assets/rn/img/0/5/9/5/21865950-21865953-large.jpg
http://www.usmagazine.com/uploads/assets/articles/26813-attorney-michael-jackson-had-pulse-when-found/michael-jackson-b_6.jpg

MJ After Finding Someone New to Love and Have Love Him in Return
(Notice how much he's perked up in 2002 and that he had released "One More Chance" the very next year.)

http://blogetty.com/pics/2007_09/Michael_Jackson_1.jpg

MJ Having Fun in 2003

http://www.exposay.com/celebrity-photos/michael-jackson-michael-jackson-receives-18kZzS.jpg
http://www.blackamericaweb.com/files/slideshow/16.mj.jpg
http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2009/06/26/gal_j05.jpg
http://www.mjfanclub.net/home/images/stories/clubcorner/activities/party2.jpg

The things that he's saying in "One More Chance" are revealing he wasn't just having simple thoughts about someone. He was having serious feelings for her. There is no way that any kind of love, like love from an indecisive person, could have gotten him through what was coming next. He needed true love or it was not going to be enough for him. The photos from 2001 are showing us that he was very weary back then. If he had stayed that way and had been dragged through that unwarranted trial too, he would not have been able to cope with all of that. He would have died before 2009. Thank God he received what he had been searching for, and that she brought it to him in time as he said in “The Way You Love Me.”

Love that is not just passed on to someone as a mere figure of speech, but is acted upon in its true form and purpose, that is the kind of love that is sent by God Himself, and it works wonders when the one on the receiving end and the one on the giving end are both obedient to God simultaneously. It does exactly what God created it to do. Since MJ always gave love freely, he would be able to tell if the love he is receiving is real or not. Plus, love that is not real cannot hold up under strain and/or pressure. Only true love can and this is how all should be able to tell that true love is indeed what MJ had received.

Look at him...

MJ with the Strength of a Thousand Men
(A year later, in 2004, he releases a love song where he repeats the words, "I'm in love...")

http://static.tvguide.com/MediaBin/Galleries/Celebrities/M_R/Mic_Mid/Michael_Jackson/1/michael-jackson32.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_TaxXgIl53bQ/Sky6DFLZfxI/AAAAAAAAAHM/qp1K-Ix9qD4/s400/Michael+Jackson+child-molestation+not+guilty+2004.jpg

MJ Fighting with Pride...
(There are too many gorgeous photos to post at once)

http://www.mjfanclub.net/home/images/stories/newsarchive/michael_atcourt_august16_303x409.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Q-hKKJsMwvc/SkWjBF9WQ-I/AAAAAAAACp0/2BETW2HJV3c/s400/FP_3197517_ANG_Jackson_Archive_062509.jpg
http://news.puggal.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/michael-jackson4.jpg
http://therobalution.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/jackson.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_qfj6el71ckQ/SkRW-5wCeKI/AAAAAAAAFVM/CPZ3_nGePAQ/s400/MichaelJackson2.jpg
http://www.topnews.in/light/files/Michael-Jackson_0.jpg

Going the Full Distance to Prove His Innocence

http://cache2.asset-cache.net/xc/53062567.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=77BFBA49EF878921F7C3FC3F69D929FDD0D7D5B3101937CB 6A3D1DF78474B9E0CE4CFE091A665FEBF06BF04B24B4128C
http://images.mirror.co.uk/upl/dailyrecord3/jun2009/9/3/image-20-for-michael-jackson-history-in-pictures-gallery-927746687.jpg
http://cache4.asset-cache.net/xc/53062620.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=77BFBA49EF878921F7C3FC3F69D929FD187D89DAEF3FB0DB 3146155217F83037A7C2E19E4841782EF06BF04B24B4128C

The Battle is Won and Documented as the World Waited for the Final Outcome

http://cache3.asset-cache.net/xc/53062750.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=77BFBA49EF878921F7C3FC3F69D929FD68E41E4C485CCCFC 3146155217F8303797BAFAD0A523875DF06BF04B24B4128C
http://cdn.picapp.com/ftp/Images/b/3/3/b/Verdict_in_the_7288.jpg
http://photos.upi.com/slideshow/lbox/e0b43232e9f6dda0cdc99bcdab581eff/MICHAEL-JACKSON-TRIAL.jpg

MJ Still Happily in Love After the Battle Has Been Won
(He's now glowing more than ever before and more positive love songs are beginning to surface. There goes the twinkle in his eyes, that beautiful smile, his hair is looking sharp and he's having fun with his clothes. See that?)

http://www.freewebs.com/innocentmichael/michael%20%28%207th%20October%202005%29-small.jpg
http://www.freewebs.com/innocentmichael/November%2014,%202005-small.jpg
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk262/evebest/MJJ/wowww.jpg
http://dailyblabber.ivillage.com/entertainment/michaeljackson1.jpg
http://cm1.theinsider.com/media/0/94/39/michael_jackson_feels_wise_and_sage_but_not_little _boys_main_4482.0.0.0x0.340x399.jpeg

Wanna see just how well he was doing and how much he had bounced back? These two photos will let you all see just how much! There are many years between these two photos, but it doesn’t seem like it because he is feeling joy in both, and he always looks a certain way when he is happy.

http://www.mahiram.com/wp-content/gallery/mahirams-tribute-to-michael-jackson-dangerous-era/michael-jackson_dangerousera-15.jpg
http://www.etonline.com/media/photo/2009/07/100169/400_mjackson_ebony_cover_090707.jpg

And there is no WAY that we can forget that he brought back the curls! He started having fun with his hair again just like back in the day.

http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/4696/mjcrop.jpg

He Steps Back on Stage

http://www.algoafm.co.za/assets/images/0629_mj_rehearsal_0000_layer_4_full.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_ZXQetnOp3zQ/Su9bXjEfwNI/AAAAAAAAAFg/KdXtEVpT9as/s400/37619188.jpg
http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/500/35173425/Michael+Jackson+Michael+rehearsing+for+This+Is.png
http://img.youtube.com/vi/HKUSa2G1MeA/0.jpg

queen g, I think it was you that had noticed that MJ had added new words to "Human Nature" during his rehearsal for "This Is It." He added the words, "Keeping her around" and "Why does she do me this way?"

Keeping her around is 0:38 - 0:43 into the below video. Why does she do me this way is around 3:33. It's very interesting that he would add these lines to the song "Human Nature."

"Human Nature" from "This Is It" Rehearsal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEV7rvCnqMM&feature=related

Look at the hand gesture that he's doing while singing "Why does she do me this way?" His hand gesture is revealing that he really wanted to know as if it was mind boggling to him. Yet at the same time, there was one thing that he was certain of, and that is that he wanted to keep her around.

Also, in "This Is It" he mentions the word "understand," as he has in other songs, but there is something different about the way that he used it this time in comparison to how he used it a couple of albums back. For example, in the songs "Give In To Me" and "Childhood," he used it in a way that shows disappointment.

Verse from "Give In To Me"
I've spent a lifetime looking for someone
Don't try to understand me
Just simply do the things I say

Verse from "Childhood"
I'm searching for the world that I come from
'Cause I've been looking around
In the lost and found of my heart
No one understands me

Notice that he has identical things going on in the verses of these two songs. In both of the verses he is searching and in both there is a feeling of not being understood.

The way the word understand is being used in "This Is It" shows just how gentle he was being with his lady friend while trying to let her know that he had fallen in love with her.

* C'mon baby, just understand (he said it this way twice in the song)
* C'mon please dear, understand
* C'mon dear, please understand

By the way, I think it was MysteriousPhoenix that had noticed MJ said this line several different way. If we listen to the original song as it is being sung by Sapphire, we will notice that MJ made changes to these lines. She’s saying the line one way each time. MJ is saying it three different ways.

The lyrics for "This Is It" are revealing that he was happy about being in love again. He sounded like he had given up on being understood some time ago, but the line "And you said you really know me too yourself," which is also in "This Is It," shows he had finally gotten passed all of that stuff. Notice that he's fascinated with his lady friend showing him that she knows him, but he's trying to make it clear to her that a little more has happened than that.

Yetp, things were going very well for MJ in the love arena before he passed away. It brought him back to life before he died. That's how he turned his life around and got things back on track.

(Now, after forty years of entertaining the world, it looks like God is having him entertain the world no more. 2009 really was it and it seems like God wanted MJ's final performances on stage to be purely for his enjoyment instead of it being for work.)

Does this end MJ's love story? No, not exactly, because love never dies. It travels beyond the dimensions, and MJ said his love for her is "For All Time."

So see? He did not leave the earth without having a chance to fall in love again. God took care of everything. MJ's demeanor, appearance and songs are letting us know.

:yes:

Impressive..! :punk:

As Always

:angel:

[AllForMJ]

^ all credit for that quote goes to AllForMJ! :clap:
:blush: Wow! I almost forgot about that one. Hee-hee :giggle:

Hi queen! Been meaning to tell ya it's nice to see you stopping by to visit!


Impressive..! :punk:

As Always

:angel:
Thanks, Sdeidjs! :flowers:

[Lisha]

He does look strong and together here, doesn't he? Nothing seems to be phasing him at this particular moment. Wow.

http://www.mjfanclub.net/home/images/stories/newsarchive/michael_atcourt_august16_303x409.jpg







queen g, I think it was you that had noticed that MJ had added new words to "Human Nature" during his rehearsal for "This Is It." He added the words, "Keeping her around" and "Why does she do me this way?"
I think that might have been summer who pointed that out to us first after seeing TII in the theater. Then I made sure to listen for it the next time, and sure enough, she be right.


Notice that he's fascinated with his lady friend telling him that she knows him, but he's trying to make it clear to her that a little more has happened than that.
That's an interesting comment. Hmm...

You made some really good observations regarding TII, I have to admit! :)


So see? He did not leave the earth without having a chance to fall in love again. God took care of everything. MJ's demeanor, appearance and songs are letting us know. :yes:
God is good.




Hi queen! Been meaning to tell ya it's nice to see you stopping by to visit!


Aw, thanks, AllForMJ. :hug:And thanks for taking the time to put together that post. Lots of interesting things you've noticed and shared with us. Pics were great, and yeah, they can be telling, can't they?

[8701girl]

I finally found the time to get to these photos that I've promised, so here goes…

If you have been watching MJ over a long period of time you've probably noticed this cute pattern of his. Whenever he was in love, he would always:

* keep his hair looking sharp
* have a special twinkle in his eyes
* act cheerful and upbeat
* put out positive love songs
* openly convey his feelings
* and have fun with his wardrobe

If you have not noticed his pattern before, look at each of the pictures while scrolling down and you will see it. You're also gonna notice the time period when he was feeling very unhappy, lonely and unloved.

MJ Happy about His Girlfriends

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MJ Happy about His Wives

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MJ Heartbroken After the Two Divorces
(During this period in 2001 he was releasing multiple love songs that were filled with sorrow. If you need a reminder, listen to his Invincible CD. Also, the expression on his face in these next two photos matches with the sad love songs.)

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MJ After Finding Someone New to Love and Have Love Him in Return
(Notice how much he's perked up in 2002 and that he had released "One More Chance" the very next year.)

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MJ Having Fun in 2003

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The things that he's saying in "One More Chance" are revealing he wasn't just having simple thoughts about someone. He was having serious feelings for her. There is no way that any kind of love, like love from an indecisive person, could have gotten him through what was coming next. He needed true love or it was not going to be enough for him. The photos from 2001 are showing us that he was very weary back then. If he had stayed that way and had been dragged through that unwarranted trial too, he would not have been able to cope with all of that. He would have died before 2009. Thank God he received what he had been searching for, and that she brought it to him in time as he said in “The Way You Love Me.”

Love that is not just passed on to someone as a mere figure of speech, but is acted upon in its true form and purpose, that is the kind of love that is sent by God Himself, and it works wonders when the one on the receiving end and the one on the giving end are both obedient to God simultaneously. It does exactly what God created it to do. Since MJ always gave love freely, he would be able to tell if the love he is receiving is real or not. Plus, love that is not real cannot hold up under strain and/or pressure. Only true love can and this is how all should be able to tell that true love is indeed what MJ had received.

Look at him...

MJ with the Strength of a Thousand Men
(A year later, in 2004, he releases a love song where he repeats the words, "I'm in love...")

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MJ Fighting with Pride...
(There are too many gorgeous photos to post at once)

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Going the Full Distance to Prove His Innocence

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The Battle is Won and Documented as the World Waited for the Final Outcome

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MJ Still Happily in Love After the Battle Has Been Won
(He's now glowing more than ever before and more positive love songs are beginning to surface. There goes the twinkle in his eyes, that beautiful smile, his hair is looking sharp and he's having fun with his clothes. See that?)

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Wanna see just how well he was doing and how much he had bounced back? These two photos will let you all see just how much! There are many years between these two photos, but it doesn’t seem like it because he is feeling joy in both, and he always looks a certain way when he is happy.

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And there is no WAY that we can forget that he brought back the curls! He started having fun with his hair again just like back in the day.

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He Steps Back on Stage

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queen g, I think it was you that had noticed that MJ had added new words to "Human Nature" during his rehearsal for "This Is It." He added the words, "Keeping her around" and "Why does she do me this way?"

Keeping her around is 0:38 - 0:43 into the below video. Why does she do me this way is around 3:33. It's very interesting that he would add these lines to the song "Human Nature."

"Human Nature" from "This Is It" Rehearsal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEV7rvCnqMM&feature=related

Look at the hand gesture that he's doing while singing "Why does she do me this way?" His hand gesture is revealing that he really wanted to know as if it was mind boggling to him. Yet at the same time, there was one thing that he was certain of, and that is that he wanted to keep her around.

Also, in "This Is It" he mentions the word "understand," as he has in other songs, but there is something different about the way that he used it this time in comparison to how he used it a couple of albums back. For example, in the songs "Give In To Me" and "Childhood," he used it in a way that shows disappointment.

Verse from "Give In To Me"
I've spent a lifetime looking for someone
Don't try to understand me
Just simply do the things I say

Verse from "Childhood"
I'm searching for the world that I come from
'Cause I've been looking around
In the lost and found of my heart
No one understands me

Notice that he has identical things going on in the verses of these two songs. In both of the verses he is searching and in both there is a feeling of not being understood.

The way the word understand is being used in "This Is It" shows just how gentle he was being with his lady friend while trying to let her know that he had fallen in love with her.

* C'mon baby, just understand (he said it this way twice in the song)
* C'mon please dear, understand
* C'mon dear, please understand

By the way, I think it was MysteriousPhoenix that had noticed MJ said this line several different ways. If we listen to the original song as it is being sung by Sapphire, we will notice that MJ made changes to these lines. She’s saying the line one way each time. MJ is saying it three different ways.

The lyrics for "This Is It" are revealing that he was happy about being in love again. He sounded like he had given up on being understood some time ago, but the line "And you said you really know me too yourself," which is also in "This Is It," shows he had finally gotten passed all of that stuff. Notice that he's fascinated with his lady friend telling him that she knows him, but he's trying to make it clear to her that a little more has happened than that.

Yep, things were going very well for MJ in the love arena before he passed away. It brought him back to life before he died. That's how he turned his life around and got things back on track.

(Now, after forty years of entertaining the world, it looks like God is having him entertain the world no more. 2009 really was it and it seems like God wanted MJ's final performances on stage to be purely for his enjoyment instead of it being for work.)

Does this end MJ's love story? No, not exactly, because love never dies. It travels beyond the dimensions, and MJ said his love for her is "For All Time."

So see? He did not leave the earth without having a chance to fall in love again. God took care of everything. MJ's demeanor, appearance and songs are letting us know.

:yes:


Excellent post! :clapping::clapping::clapping:


Must say those pics are gorgeous!
Especially the "curls" pics, i rememeber how happy we all were that they were back .
I hope that he did some some love during & after the trial , and it seems through those pics he may have had. I think even if it wasnt love from a woman that made him, it was the love from his children that got him through the hard times. And also made him happy in the happy times.

[Sdeidjs]

I was surfin You Tube as I often do...and came across this Artist...

I was not quite sure where "exactly" to post this...after much thought...since this thread is ALL about the L.O.V.E.~~~

I felt, that the most appropriate thread to share this short film/composition is where ALL the L.O.V.E comes together..! Let's Rock~~~

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ALL I gotta say...Ohhh~~~Mr.Michael Jackson..? I believe YOU have drivin' the ladies "hearts" into an absolute melt down with "this" one..! :cheeky:

On another note...

Without further a do~~~

"I would like to take this opportunity to dedicate this breathtaking version by Eva Cassidy... to my beautiful children, my Son , my Step Children, and All The Children Of The World~~~"

BTW: "Just" in case anyone was wondering...not to sound like a big old pompous duppa head...Yes, I really do have a beautiful son & step children..!


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Love Always & Forever~~~

:angel:

Therefore...

My nearest and dearest & I promised each other many many moons ago that...

Metaphorically~~~

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In closing~~~

Please Note:

This next short film/composition is by a "favorite" Artist of ours that may help explain WHAT & WHO my nearest and dearest and I have "always" been and will forever be about..!~~~


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L.O.V.E Always

:angel:

[MysteriousPhoenix]

Beautiful! Thank You So Very Much for all of you hard work, AllForMJ!





The things that he's saying in "One More Chance" are revealing he wasn't just having simple thoughts about someone. He was having serious feelings for her. There is no way that any kind of love, like love from an indecisive person, could have gotten him through what was coming next. He needed true love or it was not going to be enough for him. The photos from 2001 are showing us that he was very weary back then. If he had stayed that way and had been dragged through that unwarranted trial too, he would not have been able to cope with all of that. He would have died before 2009. Thank God he received what he had been searching for, and that she brought it to him in time as he said in “The Way You Love Me.”


So, do you think that he wasn't able to fight in '93 because he didn't feel he had that?

Edit: Maybe he needed someone to "stand by him." I 've been having unusual experiences when it comes to songs on the radio lately. I remember hearing the song, "Stand By Me" about this same time last year on t.v. as part of the movie by the same name, and then having a dream about MJ with this song playing once again in the background of this dream. Then last night I was listening to a very sweet wedding song, and it is one that is played often, but I remember thinking that I've always been fond of the song, "Stand By Me" for a wedding song eventhough I know people would disagree with me because it is not the kind of song people usually pick. It is not real syruppy and sweet, sweet, sweet like people tend to like them. It's kind of unique. But I like it anyway. I really love the melody and the lyrics. Well, after listening to that other song, I was thinking, I really wish I coul hear "Stand By Me," and then I turned the dial to some fast-paced song that was going off and immediately afterward, what did I hear but the very recognizable opening beats of this song ...




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[Ashtanga]

So, do you think that he wasn't able to fight in '93 because he didn't feel he had that?

Edit: Maybe he needed someone to "stand by him."

Well, I think the fans were the greatest force for Michael. He always felt our infinite love all the time and he knew he'd be there for him. In this case, I can only think of the fans for the loyalty and love for Michael.

It's just my opinion. :unsure:

[Sdeidjs]

Beautiful! Thank You So Very Much for all of you hard work, AllForMJ!




So, do you think that he wasn't able to fight in '93 because he didn't feel he had that?

Edit: Maybe he needed someone to "stand by him." I 've been having unusual experiences when it comes to songs on the radio lately. I remember hearing the song, "Stand By Me" about this same time last year on t.v. as part of the movie by the same name, and then having a dream about MJ with this song playing once again in the background of this dream. Then last night I was listening to a very sweet wedding song, and it is one that is played often, but I remember thinking that I've always been fond of the song, "Stand By Me" for a wedding song eventhough I know people would disagree with me because it is not the kind of song people usually pick. It is not real syruppy and sweet, sweet, sweet like people tend to like them. It's kind of unique. But I like it anyway. I really love the melody and the lyrics. Well, after listening to that other song, I was thinking, I really wish I coul hear "Stand By Me," and then I turned the dial to some fast-paced song that was going off and immediately afterward, what did I hear but the very recognizable opening beats of this song ...




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:punk:

Another "favorite" Version

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As Always

:angel:

[Ashtanga]

:punk:

Another "favorite" Version

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As Always

:angel:
I loved it. :wild: I remembered this cute video:


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[Lisha]

^ That video is cute! :D

Hey, MP...remember that dream you had once involving that very song? Veeeeeery interesting!

I was just sittin' outside having some quiet and doin' some contemplating... and I was considering AllForMJ's post and what basically was being "said" about what this special love that God brought to Michael "on time" was actually doing for him. And then this song came into my head. It's a song I rarely think of and couldn't even think of who was the one who sang it. So I just now looked it up and of all people it's a Jackie Wilson song. Now we know who very much loved and appreciated Jackie Wilson, now don't we? :)

Here's the song and the lyrics:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1odvp-_bhk

Higher and Higher

Your love, liftin' me higher
Than I've ever been lifted before
So keep it up, quench my desire
And I'll be at your side forevermore

You know your love (your love keeps liftin' me)
Keeps on liftin' (your love keeps liftin' me)
Higher (liftin' me, liftin' me), higher, and higher (higher)
I said your love (your love keeps liftin' me)
Keeps on (liftin' me, liftin' me)
Liftin' me (liftin' me) higher and higher (higher)

Now once I was downhearted
Disappointment was my closest friend
But then you came and it soon departed
And you know it never showed its face again

That's why your love (your love keeps liftin' me)
Keeps on liftin' (your love keeps liftin' me)
Higher (liftin' me, liftin' me), higher, and higher (higher)
I said your love (your love keeps liftin' me)
Keeps on (liftin' me, liftin' me)
Liftin' me (liftin' me) higher and higher (higher)
Awww

<I><INSTRUMENTAL>I'm so glad I finally found you </I>
Yes, that one in a million girls
And I wish my lovin' arms around ya
Honey, I can stand up and face the world

Let me tell ya your love (your love keeps liftin' me)
Keeps on liftin' (your love keeps liftin' me)
Higher (liftin' me, liftin' me), higher, and higher (higher)
I said your love (your love keeps liftin' me)
Keeps on (liftin' me, liftin' me)
Liftin' me (liftin' me) higher and higher (higher)


This song makes you want to clap along. Go Jackie go.

[MysteriousPhoenix]

Wow!:wild: That woman's love really did wonders for Jackie - whoever she was! Did you see how he was jumpin' around in that video? I even saw some MJ moves in there - and this was before MJ! lol! And you're right, the enthusiasm in the song is contagious! Thanks for posting this, queen g! I've always loved this song!

Also...

We have had "This Is It." Well, another song besides "Stand By Me" that has been following me around since about this same time last year is "This Will Be." I guess it must be her response to "This Is It"! lol!


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Edit:


Hey, MP...remember that dream you had once involving that very song? Veeeeeery interesting!


Yeah, I remember that dream very well, and I wonder why it has just so happened to pop up again about the same time this year! :unsure: Hmmm ... Oh, dear, let us fasten our everlovin' seatbelts again (if they are still in good condition from last year!). Haha! Just joking! MP jokes! Hahaha! *nervous laughter* :unsure:

And Ash, that video was funny! I especially liked the part where Pumba (unsure of the spelling) says, "I don't think I like this song" because of all the bad things happening to him! Hilarious!:lol:



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[Ashtanga]

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:wild: :wild: :wild:





And Ash, that video was funny! I especially liked the part where Pumba (unsure of the spelling) says, "I don't think I like this song" because of all the bad things happening to him! Hilarious!:lol:

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Thanks! :) Yes, it's Pumba.... many people confuse with Puma. :lol: It's a very funny. :lol: I posted here so that everyone could smile a little. >>> :D

[Lisha]

Hey, MP...remember that dream you had once involving that very song? Veeeeeery interesting!
Yeah, I remember that dream very well, and I wonder why it has just so happened to pop up again about the same time this year! :unsure: Hmmm ... Oh, dear, let us fasten our everlovin' seatbelts again (if they are still in good condition from last year!). Haha! Just joking! MP jokes! Hahaha! *nervous laughter* :unsure:

Whoops. I just went back through to some recent posts and saw how you had edited in all about that dream and Stand By Me and all. I hadn't noticed. :blush: Well, I am your witness! You really did talk to me about that Stand By Me dream almost exactly a year ago. I think maybe late May?
It seemed it had some significance then, and I think it might have some significance now. Don't discount it. :no:

Collectively, posters in this thread have shared so many interesting things they have either "sensed" ...or felt was a strange coincidence and shared it, and sometimes I think some of us may be typing things that we don't even realize are having some impact in some way involving this mysterious love story. Maybe one day we will find out. Maybe God has been leading us more than we know and He truly has been using this thread for His purposes. Either way, I hope He's glorified through it. And I think He may be yet. Hang in there all, and let's see what happens.

[MysteriousPhoenix]

Whoops. I just went back through to some recent posts and saw how you had edited in all about that dream and Stand By Me and all. I hadn't noticed. :blush: Well, I am your witness! You really did talk to me about that Stand By Me dream almost exactly a year ago. I think maybe late May?
It seemed it had some significance then, and I think it might have some significance now. Don't discount it. :no:

Collectively, posters in this thread have shared so many interesting things they have either "sensed" ...or felt was a strange coincidence and shared it, and sometimes I think some of us may be typing things that we don't even realize are having some impact in some way involving this mysterious love story. Maybe one day we will find out. Maybe God has been leading us more than we know and He truly has been using this thread for His purposes. Either way, I hope He's glorified through it. And I think He may be yet. Hang in there all, and let's see what happens.

Great post there, queen g!:) No, I won't discount anything. And I just wanna clarify that I don't feel anything negative necessarily, though, and I think that's a good sign. I think this time around it just means that we need to be supportive of each other and "hang in there" as you say.

I too think we are all being used by God and I also hope and believe that He will be glorified. His Will will be done in the end afterall. I say we just sit tight and enjoy the ride. Weeeeeee ...

[Ashtanga]

I too think we are all being used by God and I also hope and believe that He will be glorified. His Will will be done in the end afterall. I say we just sit tight and enjoy the ride. Weeeeeee ...
100% :agree:

:angel:

[Sdeidjs]

You know...My Irishman (giggles~~~) POP'S "rest "HIS BEAUTIFUL SOUL"...Grinnnn~~~

In one of "many" of "our" DEEP conversations about life...I would like to take THIS opportunity to "share" a "very " reflective thought...that indeed I will "FOREVER" remember...

"You know Susie..? One day You are gonna be sixty years old and "think" where in all the world did the years go~~? LIVE everyday like it's your last..!

William J. Dailey


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In "honor" of my POP'S...Wink~~~Erin Go Braugh~~~Erin Go Braugh~~~


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Just for YOU Pop's~~~


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On THAT note~~~

To ALL the "human beings" in the world that have and continue to truly "touch/touched" "our" heart & soul~~~

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"Thank "YOU" For Being YOU~~~


"Keep" Helping To Heal The World~~~WE truly Are The World~~~

Love Always~~~

:angel:


Dedicated to ALL about the L.O.V.E~~~...My Momma Emilie A. Dailey, and Mrs. Katharine Jackson..!

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Love Always

:angel:

[MysteriousPhoenix]

Is it possible to be deeply in love with more than one person at the same time?

[Sdeidjs]

Is it possible to be deeply in love with more than one person at the same time?

Like I always say..."Anything In Life...Is Possible~~~"

As Always

:angel:

On THAT Note... It's ALL About The L.O.V.E...

Susie Deeds: Be Still My Heart~~~Jaafar Jackson...Thank You for posting the Michael Jackson Private Home Movie here on facebook...

"So many in society "truly" were/are "blinded" and certainly took for granted Who & What your Uncle Michael has "always" been about...!"

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Ms.Janet...YOU Go Girlfriend~~~YOU Go~~~..!

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Love Always

:angel:

[MysteriousPhoenix]

Like I always say..."Anything In Life...Is Possible~~~"

As Always


:angel:


Oh. Well, the reason I asked is because it seems more than likely that MJ had a love or love(s) in the dark, but he also had some loves in the light whom he also professed his undying love for.

[Sdeidjs]

Oh. Well, the reason I asked is because it seems more than likely that MJ had a love or love(s) in the dark, but he also had some loves in the light whom he also professed his undying love for.

The word "love" can have a variety of related but distinct meanings in different contexts. Often, other languages use multiple words to express some of the different concepts that English relies mainly on "love" to encapsulate; one example is the plurality of Greek words for "love." Cultural differences in conceptualizing love thus make it doubly difficult to establish any universal definition.

Although the nature or essence of love is a subject of frequent debate, different aspects of the word can be clarified by determining what isn't love. As a general expression of positive sentiment (a stronger form of like), love is commonly contrasted with hate (or neutral apathy); as a less sexual and more emotionally intimate form of romantic attachment, love is commonly contrasted with lust; and as an interpersonal relationship with romantic overtones, love is commonly contrasted with friendship, although other definitions of the word love may be applied to close friendships in certain contexts.

Two hands forming the outline of a heart shape.

Because of the complex and abstract nature of love, discourse on love is commonly reduced to a thought-terminating cliché, and there are a number of common proverbs regarding love, from Virgil's "Love conquers all" to the Beatles' "All you need is love." St. Thomas Aquinas, following Aristotle, defines love as "to will the good of another." Bertrand Russell describes love as a condition of "absolute value," as opposed to relative value. Philosopher Gottfried Leibniz said that love is "to be delighted by the happiness of another."

Ancient Greek

Greek distinguishes several different senses in which the word "love" is used. For example, Ancient Greek has the words philia, eros, agape, storge, and xenia. However, with Greek (as with many other languages), it has been historically difficult to separate the meanings of these words totally. At the same time, the Ancient Greek text of the Bible has examples of the verb agapo having the same meaning as phileo.

Agape (ἀγάπη agápē) means love in modern-day Greek. The term s'agapo means I love you in Greek. The word agapo is the verb I love. It generally refers to a "pure," ideal type of love, rather than the physical attraction suggested by eros. However, there are some examples of agape used to mean the same as eros. It has also been translated as "love of the soul."

Eros (ἔρως érōs) (from the Greek deity Eros) is passionate love, with sensual desire and longing. The Greek word erota means in love. Plato refined his own definition. Although eros is initially felt for a person, with contemplation it becomes an appreciation of the beauty within that person, or even becomes appreciation of beauty itself. Eros helps the soul recall knowledge of beauty and contributes to an understanding of spiritual truth. Lovers and philosophers are all inspired to seek truth by eros. Some translations list it as "love of the body."

Philia (φιλία philía), a dispassionate virtuous love, was a concept developed by Aristotle. It includes loyalty to friends, family, and community, and requires virtue, equality, and familiarity. Philia is motivated by practical reasons; one or both of the parties benefit from the relationship. It can also mean "love of the mind."

Storge (στοργή storgē) is natural affection, like that felt by parents for offspring.

Xenia (ξενία xenía), hospitality, was an extremely important practice in Ancient Greece. It was an almost ritualized friendship formed between a host and his guest, who could previously have been strangers. The host fed and provided quarters for the guest, who was expected to repay only with gratitude. The importance of this can be seen throughout Greek mythology—in particular, Homer's Iliad and Odyssey.

Source: Wicki

Therefore, like ALL Human Beings...Mr.Jackson had love (s) that truly touched HIS life in one way or another...

[Lily]

Oh. Well, the reason I asked is because it seems more than likely that MJ had a love or love(s) in the dark, but he also had some loves in the light whom he also professed his undying love for.

I think MJ was very much a man with the same wants/needs as any man, or woman for that matter, and he probably was not as complex as people think.



Is it possible to be deeply in love with more than one person at the same time?

Same time deeply in love, no. Throughout life at different times, possibly. I believe there are different ways to love more than one person. We all have qualities that make us unique to one another and I believe that it is possible that we love people individually in completely separate ways. But deeply, nah. I don't believe you can give of yourself in the present moment completely if your mind/thoughts, emotions, physical presence, etc.. is about being with more than just that one person. Not only is that a head trip, you'd be cheating yourself and your partner and that is not true love imo. I personally would rather be by myself than be wondering if the man I'm with has his mind, emotions, and physical presence elsewhere. Some people can do it, but to me that would be nothing short of self torture. Passion, romance, and all those beautiful things when you are deeply in love should be with one person and one person only imo.

[Ashtanga]

Is it possible to be deeply in love with more than one person at the same time?
Yes, and certainly many people have lived this kind of experience, but in my opinion, this is not love, it's passion. For me love and passion are two completely different things.

Being deeply in love for more than one person = confusion of feelings and many doubts. Fact.



Oh. Well, the reason I asked is because it seems more than likely that MJ had a love or love(s) in the dark, but he also had some loves in the light whom he also professed his undying love for.
No man can love the same time more than one woman and no woman can love while more than one man. This really is not love. I see it as passion (have several passions), you have feelings with different intensities for each of these passions, will never be the same with each. Such an experience causes a great reflection on the situation and force the person to make a decision. In the end, you will have to decide and realize who you really love and can only be with one person. You can only truly love one person. This is law and fact.

[8701girl]

You can only truly love one person. This is law and fact.


Very true.

[MysteriousPhoenix]

I really like all of your replies. I too think we are attracted to different people at different times for different reasons. I think the same was true for MJ. He probably found qualities that he admired in each person he was with at the time. He also probably felt he could relate to each person he was with in different ways too.

[Ashtanga]

I really like all of your replies.

If it was me :lol:..... thanks!



we are attracted to different people at different times for different reasons.
:yes:.......... And in the end, you will just love only one person.

[MysteriousPhoenix]

:yes:.......... And in the end, you will just love only one person.


Amen.

[Rubi]

Same time deeply in love, no. Throughout life at different times, possibly. I believe there are different ways to love more than one person. We all have qualities that make us unique to one another and I believe that it is possible that we love people individually in completely separate ways. But deeply, nah. I don't believe you can give of yourself in the present moment completely if your mind/thoughts, emotions, physical presence, etc.. is about being with more than just that one person. Not only is that a head trip, you'd be cheating yourself and your partner and that is not true love imo. I personally would rather be by myself than be wondering if the man I'm with has his mind, emotions, and physical presence elsewhere. Some people can do it, but to me that would be nothing short of self torture. Passion, romance, and all those beautiful things when you are deeply in love should be with one person and one person only imo.

I do of his, my own words. Very well put!

I think every person at different times add much in our lives. Love often shows itself in different ways and situations.
But love is only every second.


¨To be great, be whole:
Nothing your exaggerates or deletes.
Be whole in everything.
Put as you are
At least what you do
So in every lake the moon shines throughout,
Because the moon live high¨
(F. Pessoa)

[Sdeidjs]

Paraphrased by Susie;

On April 16, 2009 Mr. Michael Jackson was tinkering with some of the lyric's/rhythm of "Fall Again"...

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Check It Out~~~

"You're all I find here in my heart, I wanna fall with you again. Forever you'll be my other part, I wanna fall with you again~~~"

By Michael Jackson

Journal of Reflections & Thoughts
Truth Of Justice Nothing Is Black Or White


Love Always

:angel:

[MysteriousPhoenix]

Just got done watching Xanadu.


"Have ta believe we are Magic ..."


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[Ashtanga]

Just got done watching Xanadu.


"Have ta believe we are Magic ..."


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Yes............... :wild: :wild: :wild: I love the voice of Olivia.

[summer]

Just got done watching Xanadu.


"Have ta believe we are Magic ..."


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It's a great movie. It was the first movie my sister and I ever rented when we got our first VCR. :yes: Did you know that Kenny Ortega was the co-choreographer in that movie? :yes:

"A dream that came through a million years...that lived on through all the tears...."

[Ashtanga]

An inspiring song to have a good start of week:


XhyZzfG5QOQ


:)

[Rubi]

¨Got to be hard
Not too too hard
All i know is love will save the day¨

Oh Ashtanga beautiful choice! I love this song

[MysteriousPhoenix]

"Hello, my name is MP and I will be your flight attendant for this trip. I hope you enjoy your flight on "Wings of L.O.V.E." airlines. Hope you come fly with us again real soon ..." :cheeky:


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[Rubi]

Coming up to the clouds with the feet on the ground.
Thanks MP for the trip. I love this song.

[Ashtanga]

¨Got to be hard
Not too too hard
All i know is love will save the day¨

Oh Ashtanga beautiful choice! I love this song
Thanks! :D

Love always saves everything.... :heart: :wub:




"Hello, my name is MP and I will be your flight attendant for this trip. I hope you enjoy your flight on "Wings of L.O.V.E." airlines. Hope you come fly with us again real soon ..." :cheeky:
Soooooooooooo cute! :lol: You make me laugh, thanks for that. :D






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Another beautiful song to start the week well. :yes: Thanks and thanks for the trip! It was wonderful and no turbulence during the flight. :wild:

:hug:

[Sdeidjs]

To "each and everyone" of US that has had the opportunity to be deeply touched by Mr.Michael Jackson...

Despite what many believe or what many doubt...throughout "ALL" the love, happiness, the sadness, the struggles, the trials, and the tribulations...there WAS/IS the ultimate "T.R.U.E L.O.V.E" that will "forever be" in "HIS" heart~~~


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A "Genuine" human being that "truly" was and will "always" be the Ultimate Humanitarian...!


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"THINK" About It...~~~


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God Bless

Love Always~~~

:angel:

[MysteriousPhoenix]

Interesting ... (perhaps even a little frightening, lol!)

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[Lisha]

Interesting ... (perhaps even a little frightening, lol!)

Wow, MP. I can see what you mean by the "little frightening." :bugeyed LOL. The lyrics in the song even include the line "you possess my soul."

Now this girl in the Phantom of the Opera, is what she is feeling actual LOVE? Or does someone have her in a "love stupor?" He has a spell on her, doesn't he? So strong that it feels like real love, but it is deception.

It's hard enough in this world to figure out what real love is, but if on our way in discovering it we are intercepted by someone who "wills" us to love them, in such a way, that's not pretty.

AllForMj and Moddie have often posted that they feel quite confident that MJ's love for the LITD girl was God driven, that the love is real, and of a spiritual origin. I'm sure we would all rather invision it as having been a pure love and not anything going on like in it like the Phantom of the Opera. Yikes!

I like the video, MP. It makes ya think. :) It makes you want to stay away from THAT kind of love, that's for sure.

[mysterygirl7]

*edit sorry *

[mysterygirl7]

* edit double post sorryyyy *

[mysterygirl7]

* so sorry edit triple post sorryyy big time* *

[Lisha]

Sorry my post upset you. I only wanted to stimulate some thought and was not saying that "if there is/was" a LITD girl that this was the situation. Nor do I think MP at all thinks this. :no:

Well, I hope this possible LITD girl would be stronger than to let this last post of mine upset her. One thing we have felt in here is that this girl was someone who has a close relationship with God. And through the years she would have been checking with God over and over again if what she was feeling was real.

I have been on MJJC now for enough time to have not let any fan's opinion scare or affect me. Wouldn't we want the LITD girl to not let others opinions get her down either? To not let anything the media has to say get her down? Someone who has placed more importance on God's opinion over man's?

What I really was addressing was the importance of getting out of God's way when possibly the "right one" has come our way. For one, to not try to "control" or make it happen, to not try to "will" someone to love you back or beg God to let the one you think you love to want you back. If you believe God is behind it then it is about letting go and allowing God to gently lead you and wait for Him to bring it into being in His timing. To trust and let Him do it without getting in His way.

My purpose was also to caution us all to always check and make sure that we are not being caught up in something that may feel is real, but is not. And that there are some out there that can draw you to them because of their alluring and charismatic personalities, but it is not based on an authentic attraction. I am speaking of experience in my past, I have been around several like this...and it causes a strong pull.

But this doesn't mean I am saying MJ is like this. The video just got me thinking about this type of controlling, obsessive love that the Phantom had for this girl.



By the way, mysterygirl7, nice to see you. :)

[mysterygirl7]

CAn you delete what I posted, cause I don't want it there, thanx in advance..

[Lisha]

CAn you delete what I posted, cause I don't want it there, thanx in advance..

Certainly. I, myself, am a firm believer in deleting something I no longer wish to be there. ;) I edited what I quoted from you out of my previous post.

:hug:

[mysterygirl7]

Certainly. I, myself, am a firm believer in deleting something I no longer wish to be there. ;)

:hug:

Cool thank you, your reply gives it away a little, but it's fine.. I guess:cheers:

[Lisha]

Cool thank you, your reply gives it away a little, but it's fine.. I guess:cheers:

Oooh, knowing me, that post may not stay around that long either. :lol:

MP, I still say that I enjoyed the video you posted and thanks for stimulating some thought. That's all we basically try to do in here once in awhile...stimulate some discussion. :) And you already know that I enjoy your posts. :hug:

[Ashtanga]

:unsure:


Well.....



Interesting ... (perhaps even a little frightening, lol!)

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Scary? Hmmmmmmmmm No. The lyrics of this song is very poetic and has many metaphors. Many things are written metaphorically in the song. Well, it's my opinion. :ph34r:

[mysterygirl7]

Oooh, knowing me, that post may not stay around that long either. :lol:



I know :lol:

[MysteriousPhoenix]

Wow, MP. I can see what you mean by the "little frightening." :bugeyed LOL. The lyrics in the song even include the line "you possess my soul."

Now this girl in the Phantom of the Opera, is what she is feeling actual LOVE? Or does someone have her in a "love stupor?" Ha ha! Good question. Maybe what she feels for this man is compassion for his situation - and he probably has her in a "love stupor" lol! He has a spell on her, doesn't he? So strong that it feels like real love, but it is deception. Probably. She is probably intrigued by him also.


EDIT: Oh, I also wanted to add that after watching the movie, I don't necessarily think The Phantom was trying to deceive Christine. I don't know if what he had for her was "real" love, but I think he genuinely believed it was real. He may have come to truly love her after following her all those years or perhaps he was infatuated with her. I just don't think he knew the proper way to deal with his feelings because he wasn't taught how to deal with them. I guess you could say the same about us fans and MJ. We feel we love him after following him and his career for so long. Is it real love? I don't think anyone was ever trying to deceive him. We all truly believe that we love him. And I believe we really do. Also, some fans may not know how to deal with their feelings either.

It's hard enough in this world to figure out what real love is, but if on our way in discovering it we are intercepted by someone who "wills" us to love them, in such a way, that's not pretty. No! I think we would all prefer real love!

AllForMj and Moddie have often posted that they feel quite confident that MJ's love for the LITD girl was God driven, that the love is real, and of a spiritual origin. I'm sure we would all rather invision it as having been a pure love and not anything going on like in it like the Phantom of the Opera. Yikes! Yes, I believe his love for his LITD was just that.

I like the video, MP. It makes ya think. :) It makes you want to stay away from THAT kind of love, that's for sure. Ha ha! Glad you liked it. I guess there is a bit of an instigator in me.:P I like to provoke thought in people sometimes. Bad MP! lol! Like my aunt always says, "Don't start nothin', won't be nothin'!" lol!


Sorry my post upset you. I only wanted to stimulate some thought and was not saying that "if there is/was" a LITD girl that this was the situation. Nor do I think MP at all thinks this. :no: I'm not upset at all. I don't think that was necessarily the situation. I just thought the whole thing was kinda interesting because we had just been talking about that song and well ... I kind of see MJ a little like the Phantom of the Opera (in a good way, of course). I mean, we no longer "see" him, but he is still putting out songs about love. Sorta like he's a "phantom" of music (or of the opera).

Well, I hope this possible LITD girl would be stronger than to let this last post of mine upset her. One thing we have felt in here is that this girl was someone who has a close relationship with God. And through the years she would have been checking with God over and over again if what she was feeling was real. Nah, I don't believe she would be upset over this post. (Hey, shout out to the LITD girl, if you're watching us all from the wings.:punk:)

I have been on MJJC now for enough time to have not let any fan's opinion scare or affect me. Hoooraaay!:D Wouldn't we want the LITD girl to not let others opinions get her down either? To not let anything the media has to say get her down? Someone who has placed more importance on God's opinion over man's? Yep, she cannot be in MJ's world and be a winp! lol!

What I really was addressing was the importance of getting out of God's way when possibly the "right one" has come our way. For one, to not try to "control" or make it happen, to not try to "will" someone to love you back or beg God to let the one you think you love to want you back. If you believe God is behind it then it is about letting go and allowing God to gently lead you and wait for Him to bring it into being in His timing. To trust and let Him do it without getting in His way. Let the church say, "AMEN!":angel:

My purpose was also to caution us all to always check and make sure that we are not being caught up in something that may feel is real, but is not. And that there are some out there that can draw you to them because of their alluring and charismatic personalities, but it is not based on an authentic attraction. I am speaking of experience in my past, I have been around several like this...and it causes a strong pull. True. Those types of relationships are fun at first, but then you end up getting very hurt.

But this doesn't mean I am saying MJ is like this. The video just got me thinking about this type of controlling, obsessive love that the Phantom had for this girl. MJ controlling and possessive? No way!:cheeky:



By the way, mysterygirl7, nice to see you. :)



Oooh, knowing me, that post may not stay around that long either. :lol:

MP, I still say that I enjoyed the video you posted and thanks for stimulating some thought. That's all we basically try to do in here once in awhile... Are you kiddin'? I try to do that all the time! lol! stimulate some discussion. :) And you already know that I enjoy your posts. :hug:

Oh, I know queen g. And I like yours even better!:hug:

[Ashtanga]

I was listening to this song last night:


YRsN9oV8aeo


................ and I thought in Michael. :wub: :heart:

I like the lyrics of this song. :cry:


*big sigh*

[MysteriousPhoenix]

I had a vision of L.O.V.E ...



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[Ashtanga]

I had a vision of L.O.V.E ...



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She is great. :wild: Her voice is wonderful. My brother is a big fan of hers. And this song... :wub: :cry:

[Sdeidjs]

A Favorite~~~

Without Further A Do...Let's Dance..!

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Love Always

:angel:

[Ashtanga]

A phrase about love that I read today:

"True love does not bring suffering, selfishness, jealousy or pride. Love is giving your best for your loved one, without need for property or retribution Who loves trust, respect and forgive." :heart: :wub:

[tha]

A phrase about love that I read today:

"True love does not bring suffering, selfishness, jealousy or pride. Love is giving your best for your loved one, without need for property or retribution Who loves trust, respect and forgive." :heart: :wub:

It's a great phrase, Ash! And so true! :yes:

I want to share with you a part from a Jota Quest's song, my favorite Brazilian band:

"To love is not to have always certainty, is to accept that no one is perfect for anyone, is able to be yourself and don't need to pretend, is to try to forget and can't to escape!"

Kisses.

[summer]

Just saying hi!! :hi: And wanted to say..nice posts gueen g and MP! Always interesting to read. :yes: Nice to see the thread still going. :yes:

[Ashtanga]

For a good start of week:


http://www.portalangels.com/mensagens_e_poesias/img/mensagem55.jpg

Try achieve what you think is impossible, fight for everything you want, accept the challenge of destiny and seek among the greatest treasure the difficulties that life has to offer! >>>> L.O.V.E. :yes:

:wub::heart:


:cheeky:

[Rubi]

"Dear Michael
You'll probably never get this letter
Michael, I wrote you a hundred times before
Knowing how I feel
I'll write a hundred more"
...
Michael, I love you"

3kk3N4RFuV4

Like a rainbow after rain
Like the night follows day
You're the answer to the prayers I say,
And you are there,
You are there
You are there somewhere
No matter where I go or what I do
You are there to help me see it trough,
So every night I say a prayer,
Just because you're there

VpCU_hEhbjg

:girl_in_love:

[Ashtanga]

"Dear Michael
You'll probably never get this letter
Michael, I wrote you a hundred times before
Knowing how I feel
I'll write a hundred more"
...
Michael, I love you"

3kk3N4RFuV4

Like a rainbow after rain
Like the night follows day
You're the answer to the prayers I say,
And you are there,
You are there
You are there somewhere
No matter where I go or what I do
You are there to help me see it trough,
So every night I say a prayer,
Just because you're there

VpCU_hEhbjg

:girl_in_love:
I can only....... >>> :cry:

[Sdeidjs]

Some "heart felt" favorites~~~

THIS one is the best of ALL YOU TUBE Performances~~~

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Be "still" MY Heart~~~Breathtaking~~~

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As Always~~~
:angel:

[8701girl]

"Dear Michael
You'll probably never get this letter
Michael, I wrote you a hundred times before
Knowing how I feel
I'll write a hundred more"
...
Michael, I love you"

3kk3N4RFuV4

Like a rainbow after rain
Like the night follows day
You're the answer to the prayers I say,
And you are there,
You are there
You are there somewhere
No matter where I go or what I do
You are there to help me see it trough,
So every night I say a prayer,
Just because you're there

VpCU_hEhbjg

:girl_in_love:


Awww sweet poem

[Ashtanga]

Hey.... to smile a little:


QaPWRdBJC44


:D

[8701girl]

Aww i :heart: the nemo movie :D

[Ashtanga]

Aww i :heart: the nemo movie :D
I remember a picture of a paparazzi from inside the car of Michael and was passing the movie Finding Nemo on the little television. :wub: