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trellmj
26-12-2008, 02:21 AM
DO ANYBODY KNOW
it didnt end up on akons new cd
i thought this was gonna be a worldwide hit

was up with that song
trellmj

iamthriller82
26-12-2008, 02:33 AM
It got shelved because of the online leak

EgyptianGirl
26-12-2008, 02:37 AM
Its a shame :( They wanted it to be a suprise, and it was ruined by leakers :angry:

No more leaks!

trellmj
26-12-2008, 02:38 AM
It got shelved because of the online leak

oh ok
thanks for the info
thats crazy
i wanted that to be a hit sh**
trellmj
u have a merry xmas

trellmj
26-12-2008, 02:39 AM
Its a shame :( They wanted it to be a suprise, and it was ruined by leakers :angry:

No more leaks!

how did yall get this info???????????
merry xmas to you
trellmj

michaelsson
26-12-2008, 06:54 AM
how did yall get this info???????????
merry xmas to you
trellmj

akon said it himself. but honestly i think he leaked it to create buzz lol

IMWhizzle
26-12-2008, 10:30 AM
akon said it himself. but honestly i think he leaked it to create buzz lol

Wasted oppotunity I guess..

michaelsson
26-12-2008, 10:47 AM
wasted oppotunity i guess..

right. I mean it was everywhere. Even billboard had it posted

8701girl
26-12-2008, 10:50 AM
akon said it himself. but honestly i think he leaked it to create buzz lol

U know it wouldn't surprise if he did!!

Dri
26-12-2008, 01:51 PM
HMH had 15 milions downloads!!!!!!!!!!!!

mjdatabank
26-12-2008, 02:37 PM
That is the problem with ILLEGAL leaks, that ruins some of the projects in the work...

mehdiblanket
26-12-2008, 02:46 PM
akon did the bad thing when it's not in new album

Gfresh
26-12-2008, 03:04 PM
It felt like heaven , when i first heard the song !

dangerous_88
26-12-2008, 03:19 PM
happen nothing.

speedway
26-12-2008, 03:20 PM
they decided not to hold each others hands!

dangerous_88
26-12-2008, 03:34 PM
yeah that happen.

trellmj
26-12-2008, 03:53 PM
right. I mean it was everywhere. Even billboard had it posted

but with all the buzz
it woulda been a big hit
woulda it????????????????????
trellmj

trellmj
26-12-2008, 03:55 PM
HMH had 15 milions downloads!!!!!!!!!!!!

omg are u serious damn
this would have been a hit
it shoulda never been pull
i know akon was so happy to record with michael for the 2nd time
trellmj

ForeverBeInPeaceMichael
26-12-2008, 07:44 PM
they ruined it :doh:

if they had waited a bit longer, now we had it realsed, also had the music video :(

Dri
26-12-2008, 08:32 PM
omg are u serious damn
this would have been a hit
it shoulda never been pull
i know akon was so happy to record with michael for the 2nd time
trellmj

Yes!I'm serious!
Akon said that!
Amazing!!

Hess
26-12-2008, 10:13 PM
15 million downloads ?? no way - you are kidding right?

144,000
26-12-2008, 10:46 PM
HMH had 15 milions downloads!!!!!!!!!!!!

cool!

there are so many more people that didn't hear the song...

if it was released, i bet at least 15 million more downloads would happen. lol

Dri
26-12-2008, 10:55 PM
15 million downloads ?? no way - you are kidding right?

I'M NOT KIDDING!
I read in Charts in France and MJ France board.
I will find it for you!

The interview is in Portuguese cuz was posted in MJBeats(Brazilian Board).But you can see when Akon said "15 milhões de downloads" (15 MILLION DOWNLOADS!!!!)

"Por que a música "Hold My Hand", um dueto com Michael Jackson, não estará no seu novo álbum?

Akon: Você está muito bem informado! (risos) A princípio colocaríamos a canção em meu novo álbum, mas - por mais uma vez - foi a internet que decidiu! Vazou rapidamente na web, e todo mundo baixou. Foi algo incrível, mais de 15 milhões de downloads foram registrados. Seria, portanto, inútil incluir no disco a música, uma vez que todo mundo já a possuía em seu iPod!"

SORRY MY TRANSLATION!!!

"Why the song" Hold My Hand, "a duet with Michael Jackson", not be in your new album?

Akon: You are very well informed! (laughs) First of all we'll put the song on my new album, but - for once again - it was ldecided that in the Internet! Leaked out quickly on the web, and everyone fell. It was something incredible, more than 15 million downloads were recorded. It would therefore be useless in the disc include the music, because everybody already had on your iPod! "

Hess
26-12-2008, 10:59 PM
Wow.

Unbelievable!

It should have been released!

144,000
27-12-2008, 12:04 AM
I'M NOT KIDDING!
I read in Charts in France and MJ France board.
I will find it for you!

The interview is in Portuguese cuz was posted in MJBeats(Brazilian Board).But you can see when Akon said "15 milhões de downloads" (15 MILLION DOWNLOADS!!!!)

"Por que a música "Hold My Hand", um dueto com Michael Jackson, não estará no seu novo álbum?

Akon: Você está muito bem informado! (risos) A princípio colocaríamos a canção em meu novo álbum, mas - por mais uma vez - foi a internet que decidiu! Vazou rapidamente na web, e todo mundo baixou. Foi algo incrível, mais de 15 milhões de downloads foram registrados. Seria, portanto, inútil incluir no disco a música, uma vez que todo mundo já a possuía em seu iPod!"

SORRY MY TRANSLATION!!!

"Why the song" Hold My Hand, "a duet with Michael Jackson", not be in your new album?

Akon: You are very well informed! (laughs) First of all we'll put the song on my new album, but - for once again - it was ldecided that in the Internet! Leaked out quickly on the web, and everyone fell. It was something incredible, more than 15 million downloads were recorded. It would therefore be useless in the disc include the music, because everybody already had on your iPod! "

i don't see how Akon can say that. that would be as if he was saying that nobody will buy his cd cus he gets overplayed on the radio. and when an interviewer asked him if he thinks he gets overplayed on the radio(posted on this forum somewhere) he answered the question before the interviewer got that chance to finish the question. he said 'noo..noo..your fans stay with you.'

welll...the same goes for MJ's fans, Akon. lol

~heavencanwait
27-12-2008, 12:05 AM
this song definitely should of been released, it's such a shame. would of been a massive chart hit...well i guess it still was a hit online!

made me melt quite alot when i first heard it and had it on repeat for weeks and still love now!

leaks always ruin things. damn the internet!

dangerous_88
27-12-2008, 12:10 AM
akon is a dickhead if he let the song off the album - this would have been his biggest hit ever. he is the one at loss ;)

144,000
27-12-2008, 12:10 AM
this song definitely should of been released, it's such a shame. would of been a massive chart hit...well i guess it still was a hit online!

made me melt quite alot when i first heard it and had it on repeat for weeks and still love now!

leaks always ruin things. damn the internet!

damn the internet? lol....are u kidding me? i wouldn't have heard this song if it hadn't been for the internet...and...it hasn't ruined the song for mee. lol

i think AKon is just giving an opinion about someone other than himself.(Michael) he thinks that this ruins it for MJ, because of the surprise factor...but Akon has no problem releasing his own material, even if it gets leaked on the net....

i think it depends on the song, more than it does how it's released..

wbss 08 is not as strong as the original wbss...but hold my hand is a real strong song.

~heavencanwait
27-12-2008, 12:19 AM
damn the internet? lol....are u kidding me? i wouldn't have heard this song if it hadn't been for the internet...and...it hasn't ruined the song for mee. lol

i think AKon is just giving an opinion about someone other than himself.(Michael) he thinks that this ruins it for MJ, because of the surprise factor...but Akon has no problem releasing his own material, even if it gets leaked on the net....

i think it depends on the song, more than it does how it's released..

wbss 08 is not as strong as the original wbss...but hold my hand is a real strong song.

oh no, i agree that the internet is great for getting music you can't normally, or leaked stuff!

i meant it as in...it's just a shame so many cds and song cant get the commercial success they deserve, because of downloading and songs leaking etc which leads on to them not being released or poor cd sales.

michaelsson
27-12-2008, 12:20 AM
they decided not to hold each others hands!




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Foxy..
27-12-2008, 12:21 AM
I feel bad for making the song fail!

FinalEyes
27-12-2008, 12:25 AM
They canned it because it got leaked.

144,000
27-12-2008, 12:26 AM
I feel bad for making the song fail!

yeah...that's where i'm coming from...

i don't think the leak made a difference...i think it's just like it was without the internet..

either people have their finger on the pulse in decision making, or they don't.

record execs don't have their finger on the pulse..that's all..lol

we can never truly tell if a leak ruins a song.

i just think a lot of music sucks..and internet or no..it ain't sellin.

music that is fantastic sells..internet or not..leak or not...

otherwise..of course...we can't surely tell why a song sells or not...

to me, trying to explain why a song sells or not, is like trying to explain why MJ gets crowds in a frenzy when he goes outside, tho he hasn't released a new studio album in seven years...or..why he draws crowds despite the powerful media assault on him for the last fifteen years..or...why MJ causes crowd frenzy, when he goes outside, despite sony multiple rereleases of the same album..or....lol...see where i'm coming from?

Foxy..
27-12-2008, 12:32 AM
Where did I hear Hold My Hand got 15 MILLION downloads? Or did I dream it.

~heavencanwait
27-12-2008, 12:36 AM
Where did I hear Hold My Hand got 15 MILLION downloads? Or did I dream it.

someone wrote it on here love!

pretty mindblowing amount really!

Foxy..
27-12-2008, 12:37 AM
someone wrote it on here love!

pretty mindblowing amount really!

Oh haha, in that case, how do they know? OP OP where are youuuu?

Dri
27-12-2008, 12:38 AM
Where did I hear Hold My Hand got 15 MILLION downloads? Or did I dream it.

In a interview for the "Charts in Frence"(chartsinfrence.net).
Akon said that.
Turn on page 2.

Foxy..
27-12-2008, 12:42 AM
In a interview for the "Charts in Frence"(chartsinfrence.net).
Akon said that.
Turn on page 2.

Thanks Dri.. well uhm, thats far more than impressive? How does that compare to other downloads, generally?

Dri
27-12-2008, 12:42 AM
Here is the source:

http://www.chartsinfrance.net/actualite/interview-49097.html

144,000
27-12-2008, 12:44 AM
yeah..i don't like comparisons..cus...then that'll give someone an excuse to call a song a flop, in unwarranted fashion. lol

Screamin
27-12-2008, 12:45 AM
maybe it will be on the second disc of the new album called Outakes ?

144,000
27-12-2008, 12:52 AM
maybe it will be on the second disc of the new album called Outakes ?

that's a great idea...it takes the psychological pressure off of the company releasing the song.

trellmj
29-12-2008, 03:16 AM
HMH had 15 milions downloads!!!!!!!!!!!!

are u serious
wheres that info??????????????????trell mj

trellmj
29-12-2008, 03:17 AM
maybe it will be on the second disc of the new album called Outakes ?

outtakes
oh lord!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
lol
trellmj

Stargirl
29-12-2008, 03:24 AM
^^
lmao :P

trellmj
02-01-2009, 04:32 AM
hold my hand need to be a single
trellmj

benedictee
02-01-2009, 01:38 PM
think about it..
if akon & michael make an music video to hold my hand.
MTV and so on, will play then, non' stop.

it would provide more sales, and ofcourse more illegal downloades.. s:

Hess
02-01-2009, 01:54 PM
It could have been a great video and a huge succes!'

But when they choose not to release it, I believe they have had a pretty good reason not to.

fredastaire
04-01-2009, 01:23 PM
So, actually Michael 'Shelved' it. It was Akon that leaked it to begin with, wasn't it?

Hess
04-01-2009, 01:44 PM
So, actually Michael 'Shelved' it. It was Akon that leaked it to begin with, wasn't it?


No one really know i guess.

In the interview with Akon it sounded like he hadn't leaked it.

fredastaire
04-01-2009, 01:54 PM
OK. Something tells me, that I don't believe Mr.Kon. Or 'A' kon as he is known

Hess
04-01-2009, 01:58 PM
^^^^

:lol: :lol: :lol:

He sure has said lots of stuff.

His confessions
04-01-2009, 02:08 PM
imo.... that was hardly a surprise... Michael sang just one verse and that was it.... Akon even said that the song was going to go on Michaels new album but was it even a Michael song? no ... he sang one verse.... it was a good song but naaaah.... surprise us with Michael singing one verse.... thats just strange

Hess
04-01-2009, 02:10 PM
^^^^

Yeah, it could be added as an extra track on a single!

fredastaire
04-01-2009, 02:42 PM
optimistic. that's refreshing.

Hess
04-01-2009, 05:40 PM
Yeah.

Optimistic, but i don't think it will happen! :(

I like the song alot, listen to it all the time!

RockWithLou
04-01-2009, 07:30 PM
Online leaks? wtf, songs ALWAYS leak these days.

Ali G
05-01-2009, 02:30 AM
Maybe leaking a song that far in advance is like letting all the air out of a balloon!!

Dunno really.

IMWhizzle
05-01-2009, 09:01 AM
I think the song will appear on the bonus tracks edition of 'Freedom'. Maybe Akon waits till MJ comes out with his cd. That is the most logical thing I can think of..

Normally a special edition of the original album releases at the end of the album promotion. So I think the pieces fit.. :D

benscarr
05-01-2009, 09:59 AM
I happy Hold My Hand never got released. Michael's vocals on it are amazing as usual, and it's really nice to hear him sing again. But I hate the song, and think it's very weak and tacky like all of Akon's songs. Also the innuendo in the media the song might have generated if it had been released wouldn't have been good.

mjsgirl4eva
05-01-2009, 10:24 AM
i agree i sad the song got selved

Yeezy
05-01-2009, 02:06 PM
Akon & Michael missed out on this. Its a great song. I think Michael's comeback single should have an artist featuring on it. Akon is the perfect artist. Michael needs someone like that. Michael should have an artist like Will.I.Am, Akon or Kanye West on his comeback song. Thriller 25 worked well with them.

Mystic
05-01-2009, 03:42 PM
imo.... that was hardly a surprise... Michael sang just one verse and that was it.... Akon even said that the song was going to go on Michaels new album but was it even a Michael song? no ... he sang one verse.... it was a good song but naaaah.... surprise us with Michael singing one verse.... thats just strange

Michael sang through out most of the song.

AprilLoveMJ
06-01-2009, 01:07 PM
I think it's a shame it wasn't released officially.

Foxy..
06-01-2009, 02:17 PM
I think the excuse of the leak isn't the real reason. I think it was testing the water in regard to how well Michael would be recieved. Which by 15 million downloads, is absolutely amazing. So I think Mike got what he wanted from the song.

IMWhizzle
07-01-2009, 02:12 PM
I still want this in CD quality though... So I can blast the speakers in my car:P

Magical Child
07-01-2009, 02:27 PM
imo the reason given for shelving the song is untrue.
If they had released this song after the huge leak, they would have made a lot of sales. There's nothing like a leak to promote a song.
Yes, there would have been a lot of illegal downloads - but so what? That is a given these days. You can't get around that. Every song a major artist releases gets major illegal downloads.
HMH is by far the best Akon song ever, but there are a couple of reasons why I'm glad this song was never released:
- Akon has always come across as a bit of a show-off and a bit arrogant (to me).
- Akon has been name-dropping like CRAZY this last year. Promising all sorts of stuff that didn't happen.
- Akon is a terrible song writer. HMH is his best song IMO but it is extremely simple and monotonous. Without Michaels Vocals it'd be totally unremarkable.

I hope that with the shelving of HMH, this terrible idea of MJ working with Akon will be shelved too. I mean, ok, Will.I.Am I can live with. Kanye West, ok - a song or two.
But Akon? That's like Picasso making a painting, taking directions from Joe the plumber or whatever that guy's name was.

Ever since leaving Quincy I have the feeling Michael wanted to get with the hip producers. Quincy may or may not have been hip, but that guy was all about quality without compromise.
With Teddy Riley on Dangerous Mike made a good decision. Teddy was at the top of the game then, but not big enough to be a virtual household name. He wasn't as big as Will.I.Am or Akon are now or as Rodney Jerkins was when Vince was released.

Seeing as Michael usually takes a few years to make an album, maybe it's not such a good idea to make albums with people who at that moment are at their peak. Because by the time the album comes out, their style would have come and gone. Back in 90/91 it was different with Teddy. We didn't have the internet and producers weren't nearly as prolific as they are these days (with a couple of exceptions maybe).

So yeah, to wrap it up: I hope Michael won't make the same mistake with his next album that he did with Invincible. And shelving HMH was definitely a step in the right direction. And my feeling tells me that that was 100% Michael's decision - not Akon's. ;)

trellmj
10-01-2009, 09:07 PM
I still want this in CD quality though... So I can blast the speakers in my car:P

hell yea me 2
trellmj

trellmj
10-01-2009, 09:10 PM
imo the reason given for shelving the song is untrue.
If they had released this song after the huge leak, they would have made a lot of sales. There's nothing like a leak to promote a song.
Yes, there would have been a lot of illegal downloads - but so what? That is a given these days. You can't get around that. Every song a major artist releases gets major illegal downloads.
HMH is by far the best Akon song ever, but there are a couple of reasons why I'm glad this song was never released:
- Akon has always come across as a bit of a show-off and a bit arrogant (to me).
- Akon has been name-dropping like CRAZY this last year. Promising all sorts of stuff that didn't happen.
- Akon is a terrible song writer. HMH is his best song IMO but it is extremely simple and monotonous. Without Michaels Vocals it'd be totally unremarkable.

I hope that with the shelving of HMH, this terrible idea of MJ working with Akon will be shelved too. I mean, ok, Will.I.Am I can live with. Kanye West, ok - a song or two.
But Akon? That's like Picasso making a painting, taking directions from Joe the plumber or whatever that guy's name was.

Ever since leaving Quincy I have the feeling Michael wanted to get with the hip producers. Quincy may or may not have been hip, but that guy was all about quality without compromise.
With Teddy Riley on Dangerous Mike made a good decision. Teddy was at the top of the game then, but not big enough to be a virtual household name. He wasn't as big as Will.I.Am or Akon are now or as Rodney Jerkins was when Vince was released.

Seeing as Michael usually takes a few years to make an album, maybe it's not such a good idea to make albums with people who at that moment are at their peak. Because by the time the album comes out, their style would have come and gone. Back in 90/91 it was different with Teddy. We didn't have the internet and producers weren't nearly as prolific as they are these days (with a couple of exceptions maybe).

So yeah, to wrap it up: I hope Michael won't make the same mistake with his next album that he did with Invincible. And shelving HMH was definitely a step in the right direction. And my feeling tells me that that was 100% Michael's decision - not Akon's. ;)

i totally agree with everything u said
illegal downloads are massive
everybody does it
that was a factor
akon is aggroant
u wraped things up pretty nice thanks
trellmj

BillieJeanBoy
10-01-2009, 09:57 PM
I heard the song writer leaked it (****er) it WAS supose to be a suprise, : P not any more

mistermaxxx
11-01-2009, 12:02 AM
the song was generic and no buzz.wasn't enough out there because if the Name Michael Jackson can't sell a song then I don't know what else can. Akon is a flash in the pan.

trellmj
11-01-2009, 05:01 PM
i heard the song writer leaked it (****er) it was supose to be a suprise, : P not any more

oh the writer
stupis azzzzzzzzzz ,lol
but he was so happy to have mike singing hiz song
he said let me leak this and put it on utube
trellmj

trellmj
11-01-2009, 05:02 PM
the song was generic and no buzz.wasn't enough out there because if the name michael jackson can't sell a song then i don't know what else can. Akon is a flash in the pan.

lol
trellmj

wes
12-01-2009, 12:19 AM
Akon may release it as a b side on a single. you never know, although the song might be too much of a big deal to be featured as a b side.

Hess
12-01-2009, 01:22 AM
^^^^

Would be a nice treat if he did.