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Anyone else purchased tickets that do NOT have the movie title printed on them?
Mine, bought through AMC Theaters do NOT.
Instead, they say "Michael Ja". Funny how that's EXACTLY the same number of spaces & characters required to spell out "This Is It".
I've been told that according to either Magic Johnson (theaters) or Tyler Perry, not clear which, that this can cause those sale not to be counted towards national/international box office sales statistics...? :(
I'm concerned and have contacted the local theater who claimed that there's not enough room for the title and that they downloaded the info printed on the tickets from their home office so ALL AMC theater tickets will be printed the same way. I also called their national sales office about it (closed for the weekend - waiting for a call back), as well as I intend to make this known to Sony Pictures.
I will post any info / updates I receive here. If necessary, I will return mine for a refund and go to a different theater that does print the film title, to be certain that my purchase counts! (But that's just me)
Besides, it would make a much better keepsake with the right title!
ArabianGirl~AllTheTime
27-09-2009, 06:47 PM
I was bummed when i bought mine too... i bought at a regal cinema and it just says Michael on it! its no memorable at all and kinda disrespectful too.. let me know what u find out!
xthunderx2
27-09-2009, 06:54 PM
well mine says Michael Jack.....so what does this mean??
Gold Pants Girl
27-09-2009, 06:57 PM
The movie is called "Michael Jackson's This Is It"
xthunderx2
27-09-2009, 07:12 PM
The movie is called "Michael Jackson's This Is It"
yes I know know...so what does this mean ...that my tickets are not any good???
Deniro UK
27-09-2009, 07:37 PM
Probably just the shorthand name :)
Dudie
27-09-2009, 07:41 PM
Mine say "Michael Jacksons This is It". Maybe they did shorten it.. But hey instead of "Michael" They could have used "MJ TII" or something
a_silver_lining
27-09-2009, 07:42 PM
guys mine says michael as well im sure the tickets are still good i got mine at a regal cinema as well plzz dont worry the tickets are a ok
souldreamer7
27-09-2009, 07:43 PM
my online print tickets say Michael Jackson's This Is It
I'm sure they're ok,but i think the poster is concerned about:
I've been told that according to either Magic Johnson (theaters) or Tyler Perry, not clear which, that this can cause those sale not to be counted towards national/international box office sales statistics...? :(
Michelle MC
27-09-2009, 07:44 PM
yes I know know...so what does this mean ...that my tickets are not any good???
Well I was able to get tickets after all, and I just looked on mine and it just said Michael, and above it said Advance. I just called the cinema and he said we wouldn't have a problem getting in . That they couldn't print the whole title on. I'm going to pm you a message about something else Thunder.
Gold Pants Girl
27-09-2009, 07:56 PM
Just because the movie title is shortened doesn't mean anything, the ticket sales are still going to the proper place.
Just because the movie title is shortened doesn't mean anything, the ticket sales are still going to the proper place.
Exactly. The money is still going where it belongs. Don't think there are many films out now with 'Michael Ja' in the title....
brunomj
27-09-2009, 08:19 PM
mine says: Michael Jackson`s This Is It
The movie is called "Michael Jackson's This Is It"
Your are correct. However, it would not be uncommon to leave his name off for space sake, but not "This Is It". For example, most, if not all of Tyler Perry's films include his name, but often his name is not included on the ticket as part of the title, even though that is the complete and proper title. Generally with a long or title that included the creator's name, they will use as much of the secondary title that makes the most sense.
In this case, using "Michael Ja" instead of "This Is It" makes no common sense.
yes I know know...so what does this mean ...that my tickets are not any good???
The Tickets ARE good...no worries :cheeky:
The ONLY concern is about how they're included in sales statistics.
If a database search for sales info is done on either "Michael Jackson" OR "This Is It" the purchase can easily be missed and/or credited to the wrong film.
Examples:
http://search.sonypictures.com/search?q=michael+ja&x=7&y=13&output=xml_no_dtd&filter=p&getfields=*&client=sp-us&proxystylesheet=sp-us&site=sp-us
http://news.google.com/news/search?aq=f&um=1&cf=all&ned=us&hl=en&q=%22michael+ja%22
http://movies.yahoo.com/mv/search?fr=ush-movies&toggle=1&cop=&ei=UTF-8&p=michael+ja
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/search/full_search.php?search=michael+ja
StaceyMJ
27-09-2009, 08:24 PM
I never realised that it would matter? If it's admitting to the film they'll count it won't they?
michaels wendy bird
27-09-2009, 08:27 PM
I am soooooooo confused???????
Rockin.
27-09-2009, 08:29 PM
Oh great..
Is this just the USA or UK too?
Thats something else to worry about!
Hope they count.. please keep us updated
MJstarlight
27-09-2009, 08:29 PM
I havent picked my tickets up yet so im not sure..
I think if your talking about having a memento it would be nice for it to say TII
Rockin.
27-09-2009, 08:31 PM
^^
no the point is the counting of sales..
I think it should have 'this is it' or 'TII' so that can be searched and counted. Not 'Michael Ja' or 'Michael Jack'
really hope this doesn't affect the counting of sales
maybe thats how it is printed on ur ticket.. but its irrelivant (possibly..i hope)... when they sell it you.. you know, with the computer, it probably registers it. i hoooope!
xthunderx2
27-09-2009, 08:34 PM
Your are correct. However, it would not be uncommon to leave his name off for space sake, but not "This Is It". For example, most, if not all of Tyler Perry's films include his name, but often his name is not included on the ticket as part of the title, even though that is the complete and proper title. Generally with a long or title that included the creator's name, they will use as much of the secondary title that makes the most sense.
In this case, using "Michael Ja" instead of "This Is It" makes no common sense.
The Tickets ARE good...no worries :cheeky:
The ONLY concern is about how they're included in sales statistics.
If a database search for sales info is done on either "Michael Jackson" OR "This Is It" the purchase can easily be missed.
Example of a search on Google: http://news.google.com/news/search?aq=f&um=1&cf=all&ned=us&hl=en&q=%22michael+ja%22
oh ok...I understand what you mean now....this is quite silly...all should be counted towards sales...although I must say nothing surprises me anymore.....thank you for the post.
This is ridiculious! Asking for a refund or not buying tickets just because it doesn't have the full film title? I worked in a cinema for 4 years and the name printed on the ticket mean shit. The film name is put into the cinema system as it comes from the movie company. In this case the full title is Michael Jackson's This Is It. On all of the records which matter i.e. the sales window on each till and main system will record each ticket sale for the movie.
Then at the close of business the cinema will be contacted by a company called Nielsen (either phone or email) who will ask for the name of each film shown and the amount of ticket sales each film has made.This is how the box office charts are compiled. http://en-us.nielsen.com/tab/industries/media/entertainment
Its a complete over reaction just because the ticket doesn't have the full film title printed, this is just because there is not enough space, the ticket is recorded on the system as a sale for TII. I should also point out, Nielsen don't base a film success on the amount of tickets sold, this does not come into the totals at all. They just care how much each movie have made.
There is more in this world to worry about than the name of a movie printed on a ticket. Some people need to find some more hobbies on here. You've too much time on your hands if something like this worries you.
Exactly. The money is still going where it belongs. Don't think there are many films out now with 'Michael Ja' in the title....
It's not about the money going to the proper place. It's about box office numbers ONLY , i.e., which film gets credited for the most sales.
michaels wendy bird
27-09-2009, 08:36 PM
This is ridiculious! Asking for a refund or not buying tickets just because it doesn't have the full film title? I worked in a cinema for 4 years and the name printed on the ticket mean shit. The film name is put into the cinema system as it comes from the movie company. In this case the full title is Michael Jackson's This Is It. On all of the records which matter i.e. the sales window on each till and main system will record each ticket sale for the movie.
Then at the close of business the cinema will be contacted by a company called Nielsen (either phone or email) who will ask for the name of each film shown and the amount of ticket sales each film has made.This is how the box office charts are compiled. http://en-us.nielsen.com/tab/industries/media/entertainment
Its a complete over reaction just because the ticket doesn't have the full film title printed, this is just because there is not enough space, the ticket is recorded on the system as a sale for TII. I should also point out, Nielsen don't base a film success on the amount of tickets sold, this does not come into the totals at all. They just care how much each movie have made.
There is more in this world to worry about than the name of a movie printed on a ticket. Some people need to find some more hobbies on here. You've too much time on your hands if something like this worries you.
Well at least i now know what everyone is talking about!!!
Rockin.
27-09-2009, 08:43 PM
Umm.. maybe you didn't understand the persons concern..
It wasn't about what was printed on the ticket per say... it was a concern about whether it would affect the statistics..whether the name not being in full would mean that sale wouldn't register as a sale. The OP had heard from sources that it could.
You don't need to get personal with people you don't even know, saying they need to get 'more hobbies'.. and people have 'too much time on their hands' .. thats a bit nasty.
But yes, I would think the computer would register the sale with the movie name in full.
This is ridiculious! Asking for a refund or not buying tickets just because it doesn't have the full film title? I worked in a cinema for 4 years and the name printed on the ticket mean shit. The film name is put into the cinema system as it comes from the movie company. In this case the full title is Michael Jackson's This Is It. On all of the records which matter i.e. the sales window on each till and main system will record each ticket sale for the movie.
Then at the close of business the cinema will be contacted by a company called Nielsen (either phone or email) who will ask for the name of each film shown and the amount of ticket sales each film has made.This is how the box office charts are compiled. http://en-us.nielsen.com/tab/industries/media/entertainment
Its a complete over reaction just because the ticket doesn't have the full film title printed, this is just because there is not enough space, the ticket is recorded on the system as a sale for TII. I should also point out, Nielsen don't base a film success on the amount of tickets sold, this does not come into the totals at all. They just care how much each movie have made.
There is more in this world to worry about than the name of a movie printed on a ticket. Some people need to find some more hobbies on here. You've too much time on your hands if something like this worries you.
This is ridiculious! Asking for a refund or not buying tickets just because it doesn't have the full film title? I worked in a cinema for 4 years and the name printed on the ticket mean shit. The film name is put into the cinema system as it comes from the movie company. In this case the full title is Michael Jackson's This Is It. On all of the records which matter i.e. the sales window on each till and main system will record each ticket sale for the movie.
Then at the close of business the cinema will be contacted by a company called Nielsen (either phone or email) who will ask for the name of each film shown and the amount of ticket sales each film has made.This is how the box office charts are compiled. http://en-us.nielsen.com/tab/industries/media/entertainment
Its a complete over reaction just because the ticket doesn't have the full film title printed, this is just because there is not enough space, the ticket is recorded on the system as a sale for TII. I should also point out, Nielsen don't base a film success on the amount of tickets sold, this does not come into the totals at all. They just care how much each movie have made.
There is more in this world to worry about than the name of a movie printed on a ticket. Some people need to find some more hobbies on here. You've too much time on your hands if something like this worries you.
Excuse me, but I'm talking about how things are done here in the states.
Different places do things different ways. If you're not concerned about the film getting the proper credit then I wasn't talkin' to you, and it's ridiculous for you to make such a ridiculous comment since this obviously is not a concern to you. You should have more to worry about and too much time on your hands than taking the time to make your unnecessary post.
I'm stating what's been known to happen here.
oh ok...I understand what you mean now....this is quite silly...all should be counted towards sales...although I must say nothing surprises me anymore.....thank you for the post.
U R welcome :)
I know. it's a shame...just another way for proper credit to slip through the cracks, unfortunately.
Excuse me, but I'm talking about how things are done here in the states.
Different places do things different ways. If you're not concerned about the film getting the proper credit then I wasn't talkin' to you, and it's ridiculous for you to make such a ridiculous comment since this obviously is not a concern to you. You should have more to worry about and too much time on your hands than taking the time to make your unnecessary post.
I'm stating what's been known to happen here.
Nielsen is an international company which records the national and worldwide cinema charts. My post was not pointless, I am explaining the situation that ALL ticket sales will be recorded to stop people on here getting worked up and annoying staff in various cinemas with ridiculious request for a refund because the movie name is not fully printed.
Stop worrying yourselves everyone.
Oh great..
Is this just the USA or UK too?
Thats something else to worry about!
Hope they count.. please keep us updated
I only know of the problem happening in the USA.
It's not a HUGE deal, it's the principle. I want to makes sure that credit is given where it is deserved because this is a historic event!
I will definitely post whatever response(s), I get, IF any, in this thread :yes:
michaels wendy bird
27-09-2009, 09:06 PM
Well i am gona ring my local cinema and ask as i dont think it is pointless my ticket says michael ja so i wanna make sure it is gettin all the credit it deserves!!!!
Thanks for making me aware
Nielsen is an international company which records the national and worldwide cinema charts. My post was not pointless, I am explaining the situation that ALL ticket sales will be recorded to stop people on here getting worked up and annoying staff in various cinemas with ridiculious request for a refund because the movie name is not fully printed.
Stop worrying yourselves everyone.
:agree:
My post is not ridiculous either, if taken in proper context.
If people read the post properly it's clear that there is no need for WORRY.
I simply stated what I choose to do about it to make sure proper credit is given. I didn't make the post to upset people, nor did I suggest that anyone else ask for refunds because I'm willing to go that far, IF necessary. I simply meant that I was going to check the situation out on behalf of the film receiving proper credit.
Funny how some people know exactly where I'm coming from and some overreacted.
Anyways...
Gold Pants Girl
27-09-2009, 09:29 PM
I never realised that it would matter? If it's admitting to the film they'll count it won't they?
It doesn't matter. All sales will count unless you bought a ticket to a different movie.
My post was to explain that all ticket sales will be recorded. If YOU were to ready MY post you would see I am trying to save everyone alot of precious time. I may have over-reacted and for that I apologise.
I'm done. I've explained the situtation and as I said I've far more to worry about than start an argument online.
:dropdead:<me right now
ForeverKOP
27-09-2009, 09:58 PM
mine says "michael jackson's" thats it. and its from AMC
Well i am gona ring my local cinema and ask as i dont think it is pointless my ticket says michael ja so i wanna make sure it is gettin all the credit it deserves!!!!
Thanks for making me aware
:yes: At the very least make them aware IF this is a concern to you. It may or may not make a difference right away, but it can't hurt, and might help them to try to stick to a standard.
U R welcome. I apologize if I confused you at first :cheeky:
mine says "michael jackson's" thats it. and its from AMC
What I don't get is why some tickets have room for the entire title and some don't :scratch:since their sizes are pretty much the same.
You would think that IF everything was done the same way internationally, then ALL the tickets would have the full title too...so obviously the way things are done does vary from theater/chain to theater/chain.
mjbunny
27-09-2009, 10:13 PM
Mine say "Michael Jackson This Is", lol
DJ Spins the sounds
27-09-2009, 10:14 PM
Very strange thread, don't you think? Mind says "This Is It" wow, isn't it exciting.
MJstarlight
28-09-2009, 12:32 AM
My ticket says M. Jackson...
hehe
Some of you are making a big deal of nothing. A movie house isn't going to sell you a ticket and then deny you entrance because the ticket doesn't have the full title on it. There is only limited space on a ticket and full movie titles get cut off all the time. Try buy a ticket for Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs and you will not see the full title either.
Rockin.
28-09-2009, 05:19 PM
It wasn't about being denied entrance...
Some of you are making a big deal of nothing. A movie house isn't going to sell you a ticket and then deny you entrance because the ticket doesn't have the full title on it. There is only limited space on a ticket and full movie titles get cut off all the time. Try buy a ticket for Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs and you will not see the full title either.
PrincessMichaela
28-09-2009, 05:34 PM
well mine says Michael Jack.....
Mine say "Michael Jackson This Is", lol
I was bummed when i bought mine too... i bought at a regal cinema and it just says Michael on it!
LoL at all the title variations. :lol: I don't know why I find this so funny! I was so excited when I bought mine and then I looked down and saw "Michael Ja" and was like :brow:............:toofunny: "I don't know whether to laugh or cry." Just plain "Michael" is better than "Michael Ja", LoL! Oh well.
On a serious note - My ticket better give credit!
After not being satified with the answer given to me by an AMC employee, I called Sony Pictures to address my concern in regards to box office sales stats without logical and/or inconsistant titles printed on tix.
I was immediately transferred to their legal dept. to explain it again. The young lady said she would look into it and forward info as needed. I wasn't really expecting a response back, but my local AMC Theater Manager called me this morning to address my questions/concerns. He was very nice & forthcoming with info and wanted to make sure I understood and was satisfied. He agreed that was I was told wrong (by the 1st employee there @ AMC told me) about the printed info being the same on ALL AMC tix because it's downloaded from headquarters that way.
He said that some systems will take as many of the 1st so many letters and cut it off after a certain # of spaces, no matter what, which was the case with my tix. Other systems, even within AMC, will print out differently, sometimes depending on the showtime, manner of purchase, etc.
The one thing he said that satisfied my concern is that ALL the systems go by a "film number" in addition to the title for another measure of checks & balances, so ALL really is well.
FYI: He also said that sales at his location were doing very well.
I asked if he personally thought it would be extended beyond the 2-week run and he said that the key to longevity is for sales not to drop off by more than 50% after the 1st week...so it just depends, but that he wouldn't be surprised, comparing it to the Titanic and Batman. :wild:
So, IF like me you didn't know that there's more to it than just a blockbuster opening, and IF you're planning to go see it more than once, for longevity's sake, consider going again during the 2nd week.
I also asked about collector items like that "Michael Mania Collection Set" in Thailand, and he said that so far, he was not aware of any special promo in that form through AMC in my area. :-(
Michelle MC
29-09-2009, 04:49 PM
LoL at all the title variations. :lol: I don't know why I find this so funny! I was so excited when I bought mine and then I looked down and saw "Michael Ja" and was like :brow:............:toofunny: "I don't know whether to laugh or cry." Just plain "Michael" is better than "Michael Ja", LoL! Oh well.
On a serious note - My ticket better give credit!
That's what mine says-"Michael".
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