Update: Behind the Scenes on Jan 28th 8PM ET OWN Channel / Katherine Jackson May Be 'Oprah' Bound

[Ashtanga]

:(

This is all so terrible. I feel so sad. :( I pray for the children every day that God will protect them always. :angel: I really hope they do not appear on this interview. :pray:

[prettygirlmj]

The more time passes by, the more I think Diana Ross should be the one caring for those kids. Not Katherine.

I lost all respect for this family.

Now MJ's 3 kids will think it's okay to go around doing interviews, selling their father off because grandma says it's ok. Everything Michael showed them right up to his death went right out the window.

I'm done.

[marebear]

We just know she spoke to them. We just don't know if they are actually in the interview. We have to wait and see.

[GinnyJackson]

so we all know for sure that the kids were interviewed? wow... like i said and will keep saying if they want to set the record str8 about their father they are old enough to speak up and tell them all off. IF they so choose to.

[prettygirlmj]

Taj said they were on his twitter.

[ExoticPrincess]

We just know she spoke to them. We just don't know if they are actually in the interview. We have to wait and see.

I hear you on the wait and see comment.

The thing is though, if you think about it, would Oprah have travelled all the way to California to just interview Katherine and Joe? It would seem to me that interviewing the kids would be enough motivation for her to go to them.

I have a feeling that this interview is gonna air during Novembers 'sweeps' period. The promo for this interview will be very telling.

And if these kids were truly interviewed, Michael would be pissed! and to know they were interviewed by Oprah, double pissed!

[marebear]

I hear you on the wait and see comment.

The thing is though, if you think about it, would Oprah have travelled all the way to California to just interview Katherine and Joe? It would seem to me that interviewing the kids would be enough motivation for her to go to them.

I have a feeling that this interview is gonna air during Novembers 'sweeps' period. The promo for this interview will be very telling.

And if these kids were truly interviewed, Michael would be pissed! and to know they were interviewed by Oprah, double pissed!


I think they are probably in the interview and Michael would absolutely hate it. I am going hold on to the little hope I have that they are not. The promo will say it all. I wish Michael was here.:(

[Sharon B. Sidney]

Loveforever please tell me why is it that you think you know moreso what is right for Mrs. Katherine to do concerning Michael's children and his legacy?

Please explain to me how you have come to the conclusion that her priority concerning Michael during his childhood was Joseph Jackson?

Before you do that I am going to try in the kindest manner I can to inform or remind you that they lived in Gary Indiana when Michael was growing up. A place filled with crime, poverty and racism.

Have you ever dealt with racism? Have you ever had a person mistreat you, belittle you, abuse or be condescending to you because of the color of your skin?

Is it not more than likely that Mrs. Katherine was subjected to and witness of more than that than you or I could possibly fathom? I think it is.

I think Joe and Katherine Jackson were not only trying to find success by supporting their families God given talent but they were also trying to spare them the greif and indignity they and others were subject to.

Is it likely that people were dying in street gangs then? I think so. If so is it not likely that they were also striving to save their childrens lives? I think it is more than likely and if we were to read some past interveiws we may find them barely touching the tip of it.

Please do not try to pass judgement on anyone not knowing what they have been subjested to in life becauswe it is just plain wrong.

I understand your heartache and confusion and and anger concerning the interveiw but I am appalled that you would condemn Mrs. Katherine with such hateful, judgemental words.

I pray that you would reconsider your words against her and seek God to find a better understanding of who she is, what she has suffered and what she has endured for the love of Michael and all of her children. I know there is no way any of us could fully know the completeness of such but I believe if you spared a little more room in your heart for this then you may see things differently.

As for Oprah and her show, editing and lineup I have this to say- if she tries to slander Michael any further we then can seek to condemn her for her actions. Whether her actions in the past were from lack of knowledge or evil intent we won't know and I believe Mrs. Katherine and Michael's children would be the best people to present her and the world with truth concerning him.

We don't even know if Mrs. Katherine is going on to refute somethint hateful Lisa Marie Presley may have said. Hopefully LMP did not speak against him but if she did that would be one gigantic reason for Mrs. Katherine to speak up.

I am not asking you to love or support anything Mrs. Katherine does but I will remind you that she is Michael's mother and he loved her therefore she has earned our respect.

Please stop being so judgemental and let's deal with whatever comes afterwards since there is no way of knowing what's what.

God bless!!!

[ivy]

The thing is though, if you think about it, would Oprah have travelled all the way to California to just interview Katherine and Joe? It would seem to me that interviewing the kids would be enough motivation for her to go to them.

That's exactly what I felt the moment I heard TMZ's story that Oprah was at Hayvenhurst. Let's be honest here majority of the people do not care about what Joe will say and he has been on every TV show possible. Katherine did another interview but that didn't get unbelievably high ratings either. So Oprah could have flied them to Chicago and/or do a Chicago - LA satellite recording. You know that the moment she flies to location she has some sort of exclusive and first ever interview and/or inside their world of MJ's kids type of thing would fit to that category.


I have a feeling that this interview is gonna air during Novembers 'sweeps' period. The promo for this interview will be very telling.

I agree and popeater actually reports this. If anyone wonders November sweeps are between October 28 and November 24.

[Asedora]

Loveforever please tell me why is it that you think you know moreso what is right for Mrs. Katherine to do concerning Michael's children and his legacy?

Please explain to me how you have come to the conclusion that her priority concerning Michael during his childhood was Joseph Jackson?

Before you do that I am going to try in the kindest manner I can to inform or remind you that they lived in Gary Indiana when Michael was growing up. A place filled with crime, poverty and racism.

Have you ever dealt with racism? Have you ever had a person mistreat you, belittle you, abuse or be condescending to you because of the color of your skin?

Is it not more than likely that Mrs. Katherine was subjected to and witness of more than that than you or I could possibly fathom? I think it is.

I think Joe and Katherine Jackson were not only trying to find success by supporting their families God given talent but they were also trying to spare them the greif and indignity they and others were subject to.

Is it likely that people were dying in street gangs then? I think so. If so is it not likely that they were also striving to save their childrens lives? I think it is more than likely and if we were to read some past interveiws we may find them barely touching the tip of it.

Please do not try to pass judgement on anyone not knowing what they have been subjested to in life becauswe it is just plain wrong.

I understand your heartache and confusion and and anger concerning the interveiw but I am appalled that you would condemn Mrs. Katherine with such hateful, judgemental words.

I pray that you would reconsider your words against her and seek God to find a better understanding of who she is, what she has suffered and what she has endured for the love of Michael and all of her children. I know there is no way any of us could fully know the completeness of such but I believe if you spared a little more room in your heart for this then you may see things differently.

As for Oprah and her show, editing and lineup I have this to say- if she tries to slander Michael any further we then can seek to condemn her for her actions. Whether her actions in the past were from lack of knowledge or evil intent we won't know and I believe Mrs. Katherine and Michael's children would be the best people to present her and the world with truth concerning him.

We don't even know if Mrs. Katherine is going on to refute somethint hateful Lisa Marie Presley may have said. Hopefully LMP did not speak against him but if she did that would be one gigantic reason for Mrs. Katherine to speak up.

I am not asking you to love or support anything Mrs. Katherine does but I will remind you that she is Michael's mother and he loved her therefore she has earned our respect.

Please stop being so judgemental and let's deal with whatever comes afterwards since there is no way of knowing what's what.

God bless!!!

Thank you for such a wonderful post! Regarding MJ kids speaking to Oprah. Well, fans have to understand that situation has changed. Michael is not longer here and there is nothing wrong if his kids want to defend their daddy at the moment he needs it the most, because he cannot defend himself anymore.
About their privacy….Even if Michael was alive I am sure those kids would not be wearing masks forever.

[ginvid]

Between this thread and the LMP thread I have read so much utter foolishness that I just can't anymore.

This is not directed at any one person. But I just can't believe some of the things fans are saying.

I just can't, I just can't.... It's irreprehensible. Ugh!

[Moulin Rouge]

If this was part of the special on thursday i'd think oprah would have mentioned it so anyone know when this is airing?

[ivy]

Regarding MJ kids speaking to Oprah. Well, fans have to understand that situation has changed. Michael is not longer here and there is nothing wrong if his kids want to defend their daddy at the moment he needs it the most, because he cannot defend himself anymore.


seriously?

Michael doesn't need to be defended the most at this moment, in case you haven't noticed it's fashionable to love Michael after his death.

In order for them "to want to defend" their dad, it means that "they need to know why he needs defending", isn't this even worse? especially when we know that Michael shielded from what the media says. Do you think that the family sits down the children and says "Oprah said this and that , did this and that" and the children are like "oh no I have to defend my dad"? Isn't that a cruel scenario for 13-12 and 8 year old kids?

[chanel05]

I agree w/ginvid
I do not post here much, but I lurk alot. It seems as if over time things have become crazier and crazier. Some people really know how to let their imaginations run wild. I just do not understand it

[twinklEE]

Well I cant bear to see all the foolishness and insanity coming from the Jackson's side time after time.

[StacyJ]

Well I cant bear to see all the foolishness and insanity coming from the Jackson's side time after time.


I agree with you on that.. I have not been impressed with any members of that family for quite a while now, and MJ's passing just solidified by feelings. There seems to be a lot of disconnect in the family. No one is on the same page and no one is seeking justice for their brother/son who was murdered. It's just an awful awful shame honestly.

[Autumn II]

seriously?

Michael doesn't need to be defended the most at this moment, in case you haven't noticed it's fashionable to love Michael after his death.

In order for them "to want to defend" their dad, it means that "they need to know why he needs defending", isn't this even worse? especially when we know that Michael shielded from what the media says. Do you think that the family sits down the children and says "Oprah said this and that , did this and that" and the children are like "oh no I have to defend my dad"? Isn't that a cruel scenario for 13-12 and 8 year old kids?

Absolutely! Michael is not "under attack" now, as he was during other times. Regardless, this should not be the role of children, especially kids as young as these. As young-adults, maybe they would want to make statements, but Michael's death is still very recent.

I've seen a variety of viewpoints here, but primary I think should be mindfulness of the phrase "What would Michael do/want?" for his children. That is not very complex, is it? and we already have quite a good idea of what his desires would be given his past shielding of the children from the public? Despite fame and fortune at a young age, Michael suffered damage from being in the public eye as a child -- he talked about this MANY times (including in the song "Childhood.") I think it's more than obvious that his plan for his children was to preserve their precious childhoods, as much as possible given his extreme celebrity.

A guardian has the right to raise the children in his/her charge according to his/her own decisions. However, one would expect that any guardian would wish to raise the children as closely to the "absent" parent's ideals as possible.

There is no known universe where Michael would have had his children interviewed on Oprah. . . not EVER, given Oprah's cruel stance on Michael and child-molestation accusations in the past. This is something the children will have to deal with for the rest of their lives, and sadly, the fact that Michael was acquitted by a unanimous jury doesn't seem to matter to some people. Michael's goal was ALWAYS to shield these children from public scrutiny. In this Katherine has failed, regardless of what we may think of her as a person.

Whatever else they are as a family, the exploitation of children is in this family's background, and Michael had a very DIFFERENT idea about how his own children should be raised. The children may have participated in the decision to be interviewed, but yet could have no real understanding of the implications, or the cruelty that can occur as a result of such exposure that leaves them open to discussion and speculation.

I, for one, and disappointed that Katherine made this decision. Surely she KNOWS this is not what Michael would have wanted. Yes, she has the right to do this. SHOULD SHE? IMHO, No, she shouldn't.

[Tsukiji]

Between this thread and the LMP thread I have read so much utter foolishness that I just can't anymore.

This is not directed at any one person. But I just can't believe some of the things fans are saying.

I just can't, I just can't.... It's irreprehensible. Ugh!

Agreed..

[Sophielo]

Some of the things said in this thread have been uncalled for. The abuse shown against Katherine has been awful. You may not agree with the kids being on Oprah, I don't either, but what has been said needs to be toned down. In the end of the day Michael adored his mother. We don't have to like everything she does but some respect wont go amiss.

[elusive moonwalker]

Regarding MJ kids speaking to Oprah. Well, fans have to understand that situation has changed. Michael is not longer here and there is nothing wrong if his kids want to defend their daddy at the moment he needs it the most, because he cannot defend himself anymore. they shouldnt be in a position of even having to think about talking to that woman. the family should have never invited her into mikes house.did katherine explain to them that this is the woman who called your daddy a child molester and slagged him off every chance she got. of course the family wouldnt tell the kids such a thing cause then the kids would start asking the question of why are you even talking to her or inviting her into her house in the first place after the things shes said about daddy.all it proves is that certain ppl in that family dont care about mjs wishes. and the kids will be used to make money for the rest of them just like their dad was. and the circle of explotation continues.whos next a interview with bashir.

[AngieJ]

they shouldnt be in a position of even having to think about talking to that woman. the family should have never invited her into mikes house.did katherine explain to them that this is the woman who called your daddy a child molester and slagged him off every chance she got. of course the family wouldnt tell the kids such a thing cause then the kids would start asking the question of why are you even talking to her or inviting her into her house in the first place after the things shes said about daddy.all it proves is that certain ppl in that family dont care about mjs wishes. and the kids will be used to make money for the rest of them just like their dad was. and the circle of explotation continues.whos next a interview with bashir.

Exactly.

[sharon007]

This interview will be the first of many for those kids. I feel sorry for them that they are being exploited in this way.

[twinklEE]

they shouldnt be in a position of even having to think about talking to that woman. the family should have never invited her into mikes house.did katherine explain to them that this is the woman who called your daddy a child molester and slagged him off every chance she got. of course the family wouldnt tell the kids such a thing cause then the kids would start asking the question of why are you even talking to her or inviting her into her house in the first place after the things shes said about daddy.all it proves is that certain ppl in that family dont care about mjs wishes. and the kids will be used to make money for the rest of them just like their dad was. and the circle of explotation continues.whos next a interview with bashir.
Amen
:punk:

[Diplomate]

they shouldnt be in a position of even having to think about talking to that woman. the family should have never invited her into mikes house.did katherine explain to them that this is the woman who called your daddy a child molester and slagged him off every chance she got. of course the family wouldnt tell the kids such a thing cause then the kids would start asking the question of why are you even talking to her or inviting her into her house in the first place after the things shes said about daddy.all it proves is that certain ppl in that family dont care about mjs wishes. and the kids will be used to make money for the rest of them just like their dad was. and the circle of explotation continues.whos next a interview with bashir.


Amen.

[MySerenity5]

Aww...man what is this mess?



I don't know anymore. I'm just here supporting Mike.

[Naturelle]

:(

This is all so terrible. I feel so sad. :( I pray for the children every day that God will protect them always. :angel: I really hope they do not appear on this interview. :pray:

I agree. I will :angel: for the children and the family.:unsure:

[StaceyMJ]

Wow, I'm truly disgusted and sickened by this. I'd like to know who is behind this and why. This is totally against everything Michael stood for with his children. I just can't believe this blatant disregard of that, and with OPRAH! No, just no.

[Sophielo]

What upsets me most is what Mike would be thinking about all this. This certainly wouldn't be happening if he was here :(

[Reeta]

^Like I posted before I feel someone forgot/ignored Michael's wishes when the kids were allowed to talk to Oprah. I seriously hope they are not going air that part and it was just a random discussion moment with her and not an actual interview.

[Asedora]

seriously?

Michael doesn't need to be defended the most at this moment, in case you haven't noticed it's fashionable to love Michael after his death.

In order for them "to want to defend" their dad, it means that "they need to know why he needs defending", isn't this even worse? especially when we know that Michael shielded from what the media says. Do you think that the family sits down the children and says "Oprah said this and that , did this and that" and the children are like "oh no I have to defend my dad"? Isn't that a cruel scenario for 13-12 and 8 year old kids?

Yes, seriously! Defending their dad does not mean that they need to learn about all past mess he went trough. This is not about that. This is about the situation before his death and how AEG used him. Paris has already spoken about it and have read an article a few months ago.
There will be no question asked about past child molestation trial. I am 100%c positive. Katherine would not allow Oprah to ask such crap. If you do not trust Katherine, your problem. I do, Just like Michael trusted her when he was alive.

And once again. Kids cannot wear masks till the rest of their lives. When Michael was alive it was one thing and he had to hide them from the media. The situation has changed with his passing. Don't you understand it?

[Naturelle]

What upsets me most is what Mike would be thinking about all this. This certainly wouldn't be happening if he was here :(

NO! that we know for sure.:(

[Big Apple2]

^Like I posted before I feel someone forgot/ignored Michael's wishes when the kids were allowed to talk to Oprah. I seriously hope they are not going air that part and it was just a random discussion moment with her and not an actual interview.

That is the HOPE that I am holding on to at this point.

The HOPE that when Oprah and Company arrived, they were introduced to ALL of the minor children living in the Encino home and none of that was filmed. Even though I feel sick that Oprah was even allowed in the home. Right now, I'm just holding out hope that the children will not be interviewed by Oprah.

[AngieJ]

That is the HOPE that I am holding on to at this point.

The HOPE that when Oprah and Company arrived, they were introduced to ALL of the minor children living in the Encino home and none of that was filmed. Even though I feel sick that Oprah was even allowed in the home. Right now, I'm just holding out hope that the children will not be interviewed by Oprah.

This is what i'm hoping for too. I just can't wrap my head around the idea that Katherine would actually let something like that happen. It would just be such a 180 for her.

[ivy]

And once again. Kids cannot wear masks till the rest of their lives. When Michael was alive it was one thing and he had to hide them from the media. The situation has changed with his passing. Don't you understand it?

show me where I once mentioned masks please. we heard that Michael planned to take the kids to the stage during TII and once the kids masks were off at the memorial and everyone saw their faces, masks become a moot point.

I'll leave this back and forth discussion by saying : Michael's passing doesn't nullify his wishes. Dead or alive his wishes has to be respected and "but he's dead now" isn't an acceptable reasoning for me. In my heart I feel like he's turning in his grave. and that's my prerogative.

However if you feel like everything is peachy and dandy, all the more power to you.

[Asedora]

show me where I once mentioned masks please. we heard that Michael planned to take the kids to the stage during TII and once the kids masks were off at the memorial and everyone saw their faces, masks become a moot point.

I'll leave this back and forth discussion by saying : Michael's passing doesn't nullify his wishes. Dead or alive his wishes has to be respected and "but he's dead now" isn't an acceptable reasoning for me. In my heart I feel like he's turning in his grave. and that's my prerogative.

However if you feel like everything is peachy and dandy, all the more power to you.

Fans should to be worried about LMP giving interview to Oprah, not about Katherine and kids being interviewed.
He is dead, means not ignoring his wishes. It just means that situation has changed with his sudden death and priorities has changed as well. The main priority now for Katherine and kids is to tell the world how MJ was used and what kind of pressure he was dealing with.
Fans have to trust Katherine and respect her choice without just jumping to conclusions.. His mother obviously would not do any harm for MJ kids, MJ legacy and his reputation. Simple as that.

[ivy]

^^
So let me get this straight : you are expecting a "AEG killed him" talk from the children?

side note :with criminal and civil trial in the future that wouldn't be a really wise move.

edit: Perhaps it's just me but I would be really disturbed if they were to discuss their father's death on national TV simply because they are kids.

[Ashtanga]

I agree. I will :angel: for the children and the family.:unsure:

:angel:




Wow, I'm truly disgusted and sickened by this. I'd like to know who is behind this and why. This is totally against everything Michael stood for with his children. I just can't believe this blatant disregard of that, and with OPRAH! No, just no.

Maybe.... Joe? :fear: It seems to me that this interview in Encino was planned/negotiated secretly. If Taj knew before, I'm sure it would have prevented. I do not know, but I feel that things are not working right in that house. :unsure: :(




What upsets me most is what Mike would be thinking about all this. This certainly wouldn't be happening if he was here :(
Yes... :( Michael would never let that happen.

[Tipareth]

Fans should to be worried about LMP giving interview to Oprah, not about Katherine and kids being interviewed.
He is dead, means not ignoring his wishes. It just means that situation has changed with his sudden death and priorities has changed as well. The main priority now for Katherine and kids is to tell the world how MJ was used and what kind of pressure he was dealing with.
Fans have to trust Katherine and respect her choice without just jumping to conclusions.. His mother obviously would not do any harm for MJ kids, MJ legacy and his reputation. Simple as that.


I see it differently - the main priority is for those kids to grow up beautifully, safe, surrounded by love. To remember the father they had, and to learn even more about him. Michael wishes regarding them, should be respected, should not be disregarded.. If he wanted those kids to be home schooled that would have been best for them, if he didn;t want them to collect awards, Grammies, to give speeches or interviews, that should have been respected.

I bet if he could have said his last wishes, among would have been for his kids to be protected, to not be pushed into limelight too soon.



His children duty is not to defend him. Not now. Only when they grow up. They should not be stimulated and encouraged to want to go to those shows. Adults can do that subtly, then they come saying ' but the children asked for it'.... Of course they would gonna ask if all they are hearing are plans, and how to do it, what shows to attend, what awards to collect, make your father proud, etc etc

As for Mike wanting to present to his world his kids on TII tour, we cannot be sure about that. AEG folks said it in interviews and implied that Mike wanted that. I sincerlly doubt MIke would have done that.

[Asedora]

^^
So let me get this straight : you are expecting a "AEG killed him" talk from the children?

side note :with criminal and civil trial in the future that wouldn't be a really wise move.

edit: Perhaps it's just me but I would be really disturbed if they were to discuss their father's death on national TV simply because they are kids.

Those kids saw their dad's body in the casket. Sorry for saying that.:( Giving an interview to Oprah does not change anything for them imo. They are constantly being involved in this no matter what.
I am not expecting them to say "AEG killed him" but I assume they will say something about how misirable he felt emotionally before his passing.

EDITED: Ivy it is very strange that you seem to be OK with MJ kids testifying in court but you are against of them talking the same about MJ death on national TV. I find it VERY strange.

[Krshna28]

Michael's children are still too young to fully understand what happened in the past and how everybody treated their father...............


..........Just wait till they get older and then it'll be interesting to see what they will make of everything that has passed...........they are clever and very intelligent so won't turn out to be the usual spoilt rich kids (cough paris, cough hilton)............


...........So to me............this Oprah ordeal will just make them stronger!!!!!!.........

...........And its very unlikely that they will do any other interviews in the coming years..........so it'll be interesting to find out their views (on current/past events and certain individuals), their attitudes (towards life) and how they have survived without Michael :( ............

...........More interestingly will to be to find out exactly what a wonderful father Michael was to them.............



..........I still don't like Oprah nosing in Michael's affairs and acting like she is the authority in everything concerning Michael Jackson.......

..........But the interview is done so we'll just have to wait and see.......




..........In the meantime..........We need our American fans to:
1.) Contact Michael's family in any way possible to remind them what Oprah is really like and how she stabbed Michael in the back!!!!
And...
2.) To organise a petition and protest to get Oprah to at least acknowledge on air to how she stabbed Michael in the back.........We could protest about the showing of the upcoming interview but TV bosses will never cancel it with all the extra attention it will be getting!!!!!!!!!

[LisaU123]

No petition is going to get Oprah to say she stabbed him in the back. Oprah has said she doesn't know the truth, nobody does, That is her position and she owed no apology for that.

As for the interview....first we dont now that the kids were interviewed. Taj said they spoke to Oprah. And if they did I am willing to bet it isnt going to be them defending him. It will be maybe them sharing a memory, how they are doing today, etc. It is ridiculous to jump to conclusions before it airs. But thats the course here. If they were interviewed depending on how it was done I dont think it will be a horrible thing. So I will wait and see. I will be watching. I am thinking if it will be airing soon they may show a preview tomorrow. Once the promo is out we should at least know more.

[GinnyJackson]

i think these kids understand a hell of a lot more then you think they do. Im just sayin.
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[AnnieRUOkay89]

EDITED: Ivy it is very strange that you seem to be OK with MJ kids testifying in court but you are against of them talking the same about MJ death on national TV. I find it VERY strange.

Court testimonies usually aren't broadcasted on national television, that may be where some of the problem lies.

[Ashtanga]

If they were interviewed depending on how it was done I dont think it will be a horrible thing. So I will wait and see.

Well, the question is that it was Oprah who talked with them. The wrong person talked with them and we know what's the deal with Oprah and what she said about Michael in the past. Well, not really a nice thing. They are too young to go around giving interviews to Oprah and everyone else. It is unnecessary to expose them in this way. In my opinion, is not the appropriate moment, but if (now) they were 18 years old... would be ok. Why would they have age to decide for themselves. I really hope it was just a conversation and not an interview and which have not been filmed.

[ExoticPrincess]

EDITED: Ivy it is very strange that you seem to be OK with MJ kids testifying in court but you are against of them talking the same about MJ death on national TV. I find it VERY strange.

Do understand what you just posted?:doh:

A court of law is hell of a lot different from national TV!

[ivy]

EDITED: Ivy it is very strange that you seem to be OK with MJ kids testifying in court but you are against of them talking the same about MJ death on national TV. I find it VERY strange.

why? they are two different things happening in different conditions.

testifying in court (if they are called) will be a needed thing to convict their father's killer. (no reasonable lawyer would call a kid to testify unless they feel that it's necessary. )

talking about the same thing (if that's what they talk about - I highly doubt it) on national TV would be first of not necessary - because everyone knows that Michael Jackson's death is a homicide and the lawsuits filed already tells the claims about the parties involved and it would be just ratings for Oprah.

So in other words I'm okay with them in taking a part in convicting their fathers killer but not okay with them being used for ratings. Really it shouldn't be that hard to grasp my point of view.

court of law and national TV are two very distinct things. They are apples and oranges. I personally find not knowing this distinction very strange.

And do not kid yourself that public opinion about Michael's death will have an effect on the trial. I gave the example before : 90% US public watched the verdict, 70-80% believed that O.J. Simpson was guilty - yet he was found innocent.

Yet a better and perhaps more relevant example during the 2005 trial Oprah pushed molestation angle and hinted that Michael was guilty in her opinion over and over again. What happened? Michael is found innocent. So apparently Oprah's can make a book best seller but she (and her audience) cannot determine the outcome of a trial either.

[Asedora]

Do understand what you just posted?:doh:

A court of law is hell of a lot different from national TV!

Ivy said this:Perhaps it's just me but I would be really disturbed if they were to discuss their father's death on national TV simply because they are kids.

And I answred because I do not see a logic cos in one situation they cannot be interviewed about Mj cos "simply because they are kids" but on another hand they can deal with MJ death questions in court still "simply because they are kids"
I do not see a logic.

Edited: Ivy, MJ kids are NOT being used for raitings period. I do not care if Oprah gonna get her raitings. Katherine wants kids to speak up for another reason but NOT for Oprah's raitings. Katherine does not give a damn about Oprah's show..

[ivy]

And I answred because I do not see a logic cos in one situation they cannot be interviewed about Mj cos "simply because they are kids" but on another hand they can deal with MJ death questions in court still "simply because they are kids"
I do not see a logic.

go back and read my original post where I said that the court testimony is an action "necessary for justice" . It's like a necessary evil. I never painted it as a nice thing that you expose children to, on the contrary I said that it's a bad thing but necessary to convict their father's killer. You cannot say the same for a talk show. Here's your logic.

so I don't care about public (well oprah's audience) opinion but want to see people who commit heinous crimes (such as murder) behind bars , sue me !

[Autumn II]

why? they are two different things happening in different conditions.

testifying in court (if they are called) will be a needed thing to convict their father's killer. (no reasonable lawyer would call a kid to testify unless they feel that it's necessary. )

talking about the same thing (if that's what they talk about - I highly doubt it) on national TV would be first of not necessary - because everyone knows that Michael Jackson's death is a homicide and the lawsuits filed already tells the claims about the parties involved and it would be just ratings for Oprah.

So in other words I'm okay with them in taking a part in convicting their fathers killer but not okay with them being used for ratings. Really it shouldn't be that hard to grasp my point of view.

court of law and national TV are two very distinct things. They are apples and oranges. I personally find not knowing this distinction very strange.

And do not kid yourself that public opinion about Michael's death will have an effect on the trial. I gave the example before : 90% US public watched the verdict, 70-80% believed that O.J. Simpson was guilty - yet he was found innocent.

Yet a better and perhaps more relevant example during the 2005 trial Oprah pushed molestation angle and hinted that Michael was guilty in her opinion over and over again. What happened? Michael is found innocent. So apparently Oprah's can make a book best seller but she (and her audience) cannot determine the outcome of a trial either.

I agree with and affirm this, completely. They are two DIFFERENT things. The trial has to do with justice for a homicide, of the children's FATHER. It would be very rough for these precious children, but if they know something that could help get a conviction, then that is exactly what they must do. Life is not always easy, and some things are MUCH more important than others. I expect that if they testify, or if Prince does, the judge will provide as much support as possible. It's possible to have the testimony in judge's chambers, for example, to reduce the stress on a child.

Oprah's show is ONLY for ratings .. for Oprah. What reason Katherine has for doing such a thing, I have no idea. Oprah has said/hinted that she does not pay for interviews? Is this really true? Don't know, for sure. . . . .

[Asedora]

go back and read my original post where I said that the court testimony is an action "necessary for justice" . It's like a necessary evil. I never painted it as a nice thing that you expose children to, on the contrary I said that it's a bad thing but necessary to convict their father's killer. You cannot say the same for a talk show. Here's your logic.

so I don't care about public (well oprah's audience) opinion but want to see people who commit heinous crimes (such as murder) behind bars , sue me !

Without publicity and the truth being told in the media MJ case will remain a drug overdose lie based of MJ addiction. Murray's defence will take care of it going to the media and making sure that MJ being blamed for everything what happened to him. You do not care about public but I DO. I think it is very important. If you do not agree, fine. I agree with every step what Katherine does. God bless her. I am out of here.

[ivy]

Without publicity and the truth being told in the media MJ case will remain a drug overdose lie based of MJ addiction.

I could have agreed with this if other family members especially siblings, friends and family lawyers hadn't gone to public and painted Michael as an addict in denial. If this was the case Katherine should have started with those people and put a stop to their negative publicity first.

In case you forgot what Janet had said on Oprah


“When you heard that he was gone, and gone because of drugs, were you shocked, or were you feeling like somewhere in the back of your mind, you always felt that that day could come?” Oprah asked.

“I felt that day could possibly come. I think everyone thinks that who has a family member or a friend…” Janet said.

“That’s why you’re having an intervention,” Oprah interjected.

“Exactly,” Janet continued.

Janet told Oprah about repeated attempts to save Michael from his addiction to prescription medications, including full on Jackson Family interventions.

“And how did he receive that?” Oprah asked.

“He was very much in denial,” Janet said.

“He didn’t think he had a problem?” Oprah asked.

“No,” Janet said.

“Were you all worried that something like this could happen?” Oprah asked.

“Of course,” Janet answered. “I mean that’s why we did what we did. I mean, we tried it several times and he was very much… in denial.”

[Petrarose]

I could have agreed with this if other family members especially siblings, friends and family lawyers hadn't gone to public and painted Michael as an addict in denial. If this was the case Katherine should have started with those people and put a stop to their negative publicity first.

In case you forgot what Janet had said on Oprah

Ivy, did Janet say this nonsense before the autopsy report was released?

[ivy]

Ivy, did Janet say this nonsense before the autopsy report was released?

No this was 2 months after the autopsy report release. Autopsy report was released at February, Janet did the interview at April.

[Memefan]

they shouldnt be in a position of even having to think about talking to that woman. the family should have never invited her into mikes house.did katherine explain to them that this is the woman who called your daddy a child molester and slagged him off every chance she got. of course the family wouldnt tell the kids such a thing cause then the kids would start asking the question of why are you even talking to her or inviting her into her house in the first place after the things shes said about daddy.all it proves is that certain ppl in that family dont care about mjs wishes. and the kids will be used to make money for the rest of them just like their dad was. and the circle of explotation continues.whos next a interview with bashir.


Well said.


Yes, seriously! Defending their dad does not mean that they need to learn about all past mess he went trough. This is not about that. This is about the situation before his death and how AEG used him. Paris has already spoken about it and have read an article a few months ago.
There will be no question asked about past child molestation trial. I am 100%c positive. Katherine would not allow Oprah to ask such crap. If you do not trust Katherine, your problem. I do, Just like Michael trusted her when he was alive.

And once again. Kids cannot wear masks till the rest of their lives. When Michael was alive it was one thing and he had to hide them from the media. The situation has changed with his passing. Don't you understand it?


I cannot wait to read your reaction after the interview. If you think Katherine will defend MJ or discuss AEG....good luck. She will probably spend more time plugging her book than discussing AEG.

Wow...It will be a rude awakening.



Yes, maybe the kids will tell the world how his family was using him constantly for money and never stopped pestering him to go on a family tour until he died, causing him, no doubt, a lot of stress on top of all the other stuff he had to deal with.

SMH. I can't believe someone actually thinks the kids will be talking about AEG. lol That's the last thing they will be talking about. I mean, even the Jacksons can't be that dumb to show such a blatant exploitation of the kids on national tv. DUH.


Exactly.

[serendipity]

The main priority now for Katherine and kids is to tell the world how MJ was used and what kind of pressure he was dealing with.


Yes, maybe the kids will tell the world how his family was using him constantly for money and never stopped pestering him to go on a family tour until he died, causing him, no doubt, a lot of stress on top of all the other stuff he had to deal with.

SMH. I can't believe someone actually thinks the kids will be talking about AEG. lol That's the last thing they will be talking about. I mean, even the Jacksons can't be that dumb to show such a blatant exploitation of the kids on national tv. DUH.

[Petrarose]

No this was 2 months after the autopsy report release. Autopsy report was released at February, Janet did the interview at April.

This just make her responses more vindictive than ever.

[ExoticPrincess]

This just make her responses more vindictive than ever.

She just came off as clueless and angry at MJ in that interview and gave Oprah exactly what she wanted!

[StacyJ]

She just came off as clueless and angry at MJ in that interview and gave Oprah exactly what she wanted!

Exactly.... And clueless Janet even said that the propofol was used for pain.. wtf??? Janet didn't even read the autopsy.. I still don't think she has any clue what's going on or that Murray is charged with MJ's death. I lost a lot of respect for Janet Jackson over these past 16 months.

[Sophielo]

Those kids saw their dad's body in the casket. Sorry for saying that.:( Giving an interview to Oprah does not change anything for them imo. They are constantly being involved in this no matter what.
I am not expecting them to say "AEG killed him" but I assume they will say something about how misirable he felt emotionally before his passing.

EDITED: Ivy it is very strange that you seem to be OK with MJ kids testifying in court but you are against of them talking the same about MJ death on national TV. I find it VERY strange.

They are completely different things. Testifying in court will hopefully help their father's killer behind bars. Going on TV giving an interview to Oprah Winfrey justifies nothing.

[sharon007]

Yes, maybe the kids will tell the world how his family was using him constantly for money and never stopped pestering him to go on a family tour until he died, causing him, no doubt, a lot of stress on top of all the other stuff he had to deal with.

SMH. I can't believe someone actually thinks the kids will be talking about AEG. lol That's the last thing they will be talking about. I mean, even the Jacksons can't be that dumb to show such a blatant exploitation of the kids on national tv. DUH.
no the kids wont be talking about that :doh:

[MsCassieMollie]

I hope the kids "interview" will NOT be on TV.

Does anyone know when this will air??????

[ginvid]

It was mentioned earlier that it will probably air during November sweeps. Sweeps are I think from the very end of Oct through November.

[Daniel.San]

Just a question.. I see a LOT of people say on this forum that Oprah is all about ratings and anything to do with Michael or WHOEVER, is simply to the benefit of herself, I need to ask you all this:

Do you think that those who give Oprah interviews do it because of her global reach? Maybe when an issue is needed to be raised, be it about child abuse, disease, tyranny in 3rd world countries or even album or movie promotion, a show to the status of Oprah (love her or hate her) is probably the greatest form of awareness you can get.

Dont believe me? Look at how we discuss Oprah interviews to the point there are over 1000+ replies before it's even aired.

Logic guys... use it for something other than bashing everything on earth.

[144,000]

Just a question.. I see a LOT of people say on this forum that Oprah is all about ratings and anything to do with Michael or WHOEVER, is simply to the benefit of herself, I need to ask you all this:

Do you think that those who give Oprah interviews do it because of her global reach? Maybe when an issue is needed to be raised, be it about child abuse, disease, tyranny in 3rd world countries or even album or movie promotion, a show to the status of Oprah (love her or hate her) is probably the greatest form of awareness you can get.

Dont believe me? Look at how we discuss Oprah interviews to the point there are over 1000+ replies before it's even aired.

Logic guys... use it for something other than bashing everything on earth.

instead of adding your number to the favorite sport of bashing Michael Jackson fans, why don't you consider that any interview done with anyone, concerning Michael Jackson, will receive world wide attention. whoever the interviewer is, or whoever the interviewee is. that's the reason for all the posts, here. Oprah has done a lot of shows, that the world doesn't know about. Michael wasn't the subject on those shows. if the interviewer is Joe Average, and the interview is about Michael Jackson, there will be a thousand posts. i wonder if you were around for the caricature sized bashing of Michael, by the media, while he was here, and the caricature sized pain that he had to go through as a result..that killed him, and the caricature sized suffering that the fans have suffered, as a result, which explains the pain that the fans act out. did you ever consider understanding that? and did you consider calling out the media for that bashing that caused all this pain and grief? take that into consideration before you act like there was no reason for the extent of the pain of the fans that is being acted out.

[Daniel.San]

I was around when Michael was going through all the pain - before, during and after the trial. I was a very active member of MJNO before it was shut down and migrated to this forum with many that call MJJC home today.

There is nothing in my above post that bashes "MJ fans". I simply have an issue with every single thread being derailed by unnecessary hatred. If it's not new album threads being hijacked by hatred of Sony, or any of the thousand other gripes that seem to completely transform perfectly normal and respectable threads, it's people that try to make sense or understanding of a topic being labelled as "bashing MJ fans".

I'll also mention that while I fully agree that anything Michael Jackson related receives increased media attention and public awareness, Oprah's show is more than just that, love her or hate her. In Australia (where I come from), a large section of the media was praising the New South Wales State Governments decision to pay the woman millions to visit our country and host a show here. Not only is this rare that the actions of my State Government was praised by the media, it was hailed as an act of marketing genius. Her show reaches a global audience of millions, regardless of the topic, all over the world. The reach of the "Oprah" brand is so wide, that the few million that it cost our Government to fund her trip to our country will be recouped by the millions in tourism dollars as a result of the special.

This is why I mentioned what I did, not to bash anyone. Quite frankly to say that is insulting.

[Roosje]

Oprah just tweeted:

.OMG! Just had a SURPRISE date with Jackie Jackson. My teen idol hearthrob. Tried not to talk too much or eat too much. Succeeded at neither!
about 1 hour ago via OpenBeak

It's a Jackson overload for her these days...

I'm really looking forward to this interview. If Oprah will be as respectful as she was with LMP I have faith this interview will also be interesting and balanced.

[JMie]

I'm really looking forward to this interview. If Oprah will be as respectful as she was with LMP I have faith this interview will also be interesting and balanced. As much as I dislike Oprah, I am sure she will be respectful. I can't imagine Oprah being disrespectful to a 80-year-old mother of such a famous family who lost her most famous son. Being disrespectful would be a PR suicide for her.

[Ohood]

I think Oprah owes us an apology, she was professional and honest, she only ask questions and it is his people who answer them....i think it is like killing the messanger...i really regret every bad word i tweeted to Oprah and i think she deserve an apology because she has no agenda it is only the timing...also, Bless Mrs. Jackson she saw this before we did ,,,she was right to ask Oprah and no anyone else to her house,,,she has a point , Oprah is honest and not double faced..sorry Oprah !

[Ohood]

I am very sure Oprah will be honest and i think she started to find out things for herself...i want to tweet her all my apology and sorry words but i wish she can read them...she was very kind to MJ since his death,,,i'm sure she love him but in her own way!


she only asked the questions the people may ask , she was not against MJ and she will never be...when i saw her yesterday...i felt her light she was honest to the point that she was the only person in the media asking about Michael's insomnia...the only person...although Janet and Lisa tried to ignored this she kept asking this question over and over again ! she showed alot of class.

[MJStorm]

Do you think that those who give Oprah interviews do it because of her global reach?


Global reach? Like worldwide (planet reach) ?She is not very famous outside the U.S. In my country she is virtually unknown.

[MJStorm]

I am very sure Oprah will be honest and i think she started to find out things for herself...i want to tweet her all my apology and sorry words but i wish she can read them...she was very kind to MJ since his death,,,i'm sure she love him but in her own way!


she only asked the questions the people may ask , she was not against MJ and she will never be...when i saw her yesterday...i felt her light she was honest to the point that she was the only person in the media asking about Michael's insomnia...the only person...although Janet and Lisa tried to ignored this she kept asking this question over and over again ! she showed alot of class.

Oh God......

Blindness is contagious.

[ginvid]

I was around when Michael was going through all the pain - before, during and after the trial. I was a very active member of MJNO before it was shut down and migrated to this forum with many that call MJJC home today.

There is nothing in my above post that bashes "MJ fans". I simply have an issue with every single thread being derailed by unnecessary hatred. If it's not new album threads being hijacked by hatred of Sony, or any of the thousand other gripes that seem to completely transform perfectly normal and respectable threads, it's people that try to make sense or understanding of a topic being labelled as "bashing MJ fans".

I'll also mention that while I fully agree that anything Michael Jackson related receives increased media attention and public awareness, Oprah's show is more than just that, love her or hate her. In Australia (where I come from), a large section of the media was praising the New South Wales State Governments decision to pay the woman millions to visit our country and host a show here. Not only is this rare that the actions of my State Government was praised by the media, it was hailed as an act of marketing genius. Her show reaches a global audience of millions, regardless of the topic, all over the world. The reach of the "Oprah" brand is so wide, that the few million that it cost our Government to fund her trip to our country will be recouped by the millions in tourism dollars as a result of the special.

This is why I mentioned what I did, not to bash anyone. Quite frankly to say that is insulting.

You can not possibly understand what you wrote or what your connotations are. You said before for MJ fans (yes you grouped them all together) should maybe understand Oprah's global reach and think there may need to be an issue that is addressed. They should use this for education and not bashing. "Logic guys... use it more than for bashing". This gives the connotation that MJ fans only like to bash on Oprah. Or more globslly, they use it to bash anyone besides MJ. If that is how you feel then fine. But do not pretend as it was not what you said and then act offended over it. Please!

Also, if Oprah used the interview as a platform to discuss what actually the consequences of addiction or insomnia are; what they drive a person to, then maybe. But don't take an interview where she skirts over these issues in favor of getting as much dirt as possible as a necessary platform for addressing these issues.

[Butterfly26]

Oh God......

Blindness is contagious.


(((Shuts eyes tightly to avoid sudden blindness)))

Ill catch mother Katherine on You Tube. Im avoding ratings boost like it was the plague

[Butterfly26]

She just came off as clueless and angry at MJ in that interview and gave Oprah exactly what she wanted!

Yes, my sister and I was discussing Janet's attitude as of late after MJ passing. I do believe she is grieving over him as many of us are. Perhaps she felt she wasn't there enough for him. Who really knows but she seems very distant, emotionless, cold, very vague, and secretive. I think she may need to talk to a professional on her feelings. I truly think she is trying to keep it all together. I not sure as to why she decided to speak on this and not present the whole picture. MJ died at the hands of Murray with Propofol. Not some pain pill overdose. Im not happy with her and others over that.

Now, all this talk of addicitions concerning him drives me up a tree. It's like everyones group chant as if they know nothing else. Why on earth do you hit the media circle and say this repeatedly? Hello! They take every thing you say and bold print it. Murray side has so much juice it isn't funny. All this has done nothing but reiterate that it's his own fault that he did not get help, he left his children and he is Forest Lawn. Funny how Murray name is no longer in the news or really on the tongues of some fan sites. Our focus is elswhere and Murray is free to be thrilled.

[Butterfly26]

Also, if Oprah used the interview as a platform to discuss what actually the consequences of addiction or insomnia are; what they drive a person to, then maybe. But don't take an interview where she skirts over these issues in favor of getting as much dirt as possible as a necessary platform for addressing these issues.


Yes, unfortuantely I saw a lot of skirting taking place on the play back. All so typcial not surprised by it. I think it was pitiful and careless the juicy stuff was more important. MJ and his cronic past issues were not relevant then or now. The misconceptions, lies and distortions will sadly continue to run amuck.

[Roosje]

Global reach? Like worldwide (planet reach) ?She is not very famous outside the U.S. In my country she is virtually unknown.

Her show is broadcasted in 145+ countries. She and her show are very influential.

[Thetruthbetold]

Mrs. Jackson only did this interview to set the record straight about her son and what he told her there's everybody's story vs the woman who knew him best the woman he shared every bit of details with. Trust me this will be a good watch she answer those questions well and Oprah knew better not to take it to the level every body is thinking. She knew Michael J.Jackson and she will show his fans and the world what a great man he was loving how his kids are strong and in good spirit about their loving father.

[Sophielo]

Jackie on Oprah, should be an interesting episode. Teen heart thobs eh?

[AngieJ]

Winfrey lands President Bush, Jackson's parents

CHICAGO – Former President George W. Bush and Michael Jackson's parents are among the big names "The Oprah Winfrey Show" has booked for the November ratings sweeps.

Harpo Productions released a schedule Friday, including a show featuring Bush discussing his memoir, "Decision Points," on Nov. 9 — the day of its release.

No date was given for the Jacksons' interview. The production company says Katherine Jackson will talk about her son's life from childhood stardom to his death. She'll be joined by her husband, Joe Jackson.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101022/ap_en_tv/us_winfrey_sweeps

[AnnieRUOkay89]

I'm willing to bet Oprah saves this interview for last, knowing not many people will watch the other episodes. "Michael Jackson" the brand, is a big ratings booster nowadays.

[StacyJ]

Mrs. Jackson only did this interview to set the record straight about her son and what he told her there's everybody's story vs the woman who knew him best the woman he shared every bit of details with. Trust me this will be a good watch she answer those questions well and Oprah knew better not to take it to the level every body is thinking. She knew Michael J.Jackson and she will show his fans and the world what a great man he was loving how his kids are strong and in good spirit about their loving father.

how do you know that?

[MJStorm]

Her show is broadcasted in 145+ countries. She and her show are very influential.

LOL

I know. Her show is broadcasted in my country too. And you know what? Nobody cares. She's on channels that nobody watches or cares. Good luck finding someone here who knows her.

The some for the most of the world.

[elusive moonwalker]

LOL

I know. Her show is broadcasted in my country too. And you know what? Nobody cares. She's on channels that nobody watches or cares. Good luck finding someone here who knows her.

The some for the most of the world.

very true. it may be aired in alot of countries but shes hasnt been on mainstream uk tv for heck knows how long. maybe 15 years. her show is on some unknown sky channel now

[bobmoo79]

Outside the US everybody knows her but nobody cares.

When Sky TV launched in the UK in thelate 80s it was a big deal to have abig US show like Oprah, but she entered obscurity in the early 90s and nobody could care less about what she says or does, or who she has on her shows in the UK. She is nowhere near the global status of other US celebs.

[MJStorm]

Outside the US everybody knows her but nobody cares.

When Sky TV launched in the UK in thelate 80s it was a big deal to have abig US show like Oprah, but she entered obscurity in the early 90s and nobody could care less about what she says or does, or who she has on her shows in the UK. She is nowhere near the global status of other US celebs.

Belive me. In my country nobody Knows her.

[LisaU123]

Hmmmmm gee the description doesn't mention the kids. They would be the biggest draw so seems again info was false and they more then likely wont be on.

[ivy]

Her show is broadcasted in 145+ countries. She and her show are very influential.


LOL

I know. Her show is broadcasted in my country too. And you know what? Nobody cares. She's on channels that nobody watches or cares. Good luck finding someone here who knows her.

The some for the most of the world.


very true. it may be aired in alot of countries but shes hasnt been on mainstream uk tv for heck knows how long. maybe 15 years. her show is on some unknown sky channel now


Outside the US everybody knows her but nobody cares.



Belive me. In my country nobody Knows her.

Yes her show is also airs in my native country in some small cable channel but like MJStorm said no one watches her or even knows her. In the recent years Dr. Oz have become really famous in my native country, people do not even know that Oprah was the one that introduced him. Sometimes Dr. Oz refers to Oprah and our media refers her as " Dr. Oz's American friend Oprah" - like she's some random female. That's how people in my country perceives her.

[Tsukiji]

Frankly, Oprah's claim to fame is being able to interview Michael Jackson, and now Lisa Marie after his death. Soon she will be able to add to that claim that she was able to interview Katherine and Joe.

There's no major interest in her 10000th interview with a random actor or mediocre singer.

There's no major interest in her 10000th show about some person who has multiple wives.

Her notoriety is only because she has had interviews with the Greatest artist of all time and people linked to him. Otherwise, Oprah is nothing, she was nothing before Michael, this is precisely why she keeps doing interviews that are MJ related, because she knows anything MJ related gets COLOSSAL interest (ratings), more than anything.

[elusive moonwalker]

Hmmmmm gee the description doesn't mention the kids. They would be the biggest draw so seems again info was false and they more then likely wont be on.

i think ppl are more bothered about the fact she got to talk to the kids in the first place. whether it was filmed and will be shown would be the final insult but the fact she spoke to them is bad enough.and is an issue in itself

[prismsagainst5live]

i think ppl are more bothered about the fact she got to talk to the kids in the first place. whether it was filmed and will be shown would be the final insult but the fact she spoke to them is bad enough.and is an issue in itself

exactly. She shouldn't have come within 1000 miles of them.

[Big Apple2]

Outside the US everybody knows her but nobody cares.

Funny you should mention that. I remember when Oprah recently traveled out of the country in order to campagain for the Olympics (I think it was for the Olympics) to come to Chicago and she really thought her being present would matter on a WORLD STAGE. At the time I thought to myself: "Dorothy you ain't in Kanasas anymore." LOL!

And in my opinion, she got knocked down a few pegs, because Chicago was voted out in the FIRST round of votes.

[Butterfly26]

Winfrey lands President Bush, Jackson's parents

CHICAGO – Former President George W. Bush and Michael Jackson's parents are among the big names "The Oprah Winfrey Show" has booked for the November ratings sweeps.

Harpo Productions released a schedule Friday, including a show featuring Bush discussing his memoir, "Decision Points," on Nov. 9 — the day of its release.

No date was given for the Jacksons' interview. The production company says Katherine Jackson will talk about her son's life from childhood stardom to his death. She'll be joined by her husband, Joe Jackson.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101022/ap_en_tv/us_winfrey_sweeps

JOE?! Yikes!

[Sophielo]

Funny you should mention that. I remember when Oprah recently traveled out of the country in order to campagain for the Olympics (I think it was for the Olympics) to come to Chicago and she really thought her being present would matter on a WORLD STAGE. At the time I thought to myself: "Dorothy you ain't in Kanasas anymore." LOL!

And in my opinion, she got knocked down a few pegs, because Chicago was voted out in the FIRST round of votes.

Yeah that was embarrasing. Britain had David Beckham who's well known on a world wide scale, not just majorly in one country. Oprah is well known yes of course but as Elusive head outside the US she doesn't matter. In the UK her show is aired in some small satellite channel way down the EPG.

[Tsukiji]

I wonder if any of the other family members will be interviewed, like cousins or nephews..or will it just be Katherine and Joe for the full hour

[144,000]

I was around when Michael was going through all the pain - before, during and after the trial. I was a very active member of MJNO before it was shut down and migrated to this forum with many that call MJJC home today.

There is nothing in my above post that bashes "MJ fans". I simply have an issue with every single thread being derailed by unnecessary hatred. If it's not new album threads being hijacked by hatred of Sony, or any of the thousand other gripes that seem to completely transform perfectly normal and respectable threads, it's people that try to make sense or understanding of a topic being labelled as "bashing MJ fans".

I'll also mention that while I fully agree that anything Michael Jackson related receives increased media attention and public awareness, Oprah's show is more than just that, love her or hate her. In Australia (where I come from), a large section of the media was praising the New South Wales State Governments decision to pay the woman millions to visit our country and host a show here. Not only is this rare that the actions of my State Government was praised by the media, it was hailed as an act of marketing genius. Her show reaches a global audience of millions, regardless of the topic, all over the world. The reach of the "Oprah" brand is so wide, that the few million that it cost our Government to fund her trip to our country will be recouped by the millions in tourism dollars as a result of the special.

This is why I mentioned what I did, not to bash anyone. Quite frankly to say that is insulting.

it's true. you bashed them. you said they bash everything on earth, and you use hyperinflammatory words, like hijacked, and gripe, etc. that's bashing and hate. also, being an active member means nothing. haters are active members. you can be an active member and do a lot of derailing. nor is your assertion of hatred, true. criticism and protection of MIchael is not hatred. saying what sony did to him is not hatred. it is what they did to him. mentioning it is not hatred, it's expression of pain for what Michael went through. if Michael Jackson got interviewed by Ellen Degerneres it would get the same massive attention. and maybe you should wait till Oprah does the special, before you predict what your country will recoup. it hasn't happened yet. and tell me, why is Oprah's show ending, and why is her rating declining in the usa?

[Agent M]

Katherine Jackson May Be 'Oprah' Bound
Will she also be 'Oprah' gagged?!:D

http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac143/MichaelJennings/f6f256a1.jpg

[144,000]

Will she also be 'Oprah' gagged?!:D

http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac143/MichaelJennings/f6f256a1.jpg

good question. the edit button is Oprah's great friend.

[Ashtanga]

Oh God......

Blindness is contagious.


(((Shuts eyes tightly to avoid sudden blindness)))



Yes..... :fear:





Will she also be 'Oprah' gagged?!:D

http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac143/MichaelJennings/f6f256a1.jpg

:lol:

[twinklEE]

anyone here who thinks she is influential outside the US doesn't think right, the woman wasn't let in in one of the boutiques in Paris a couple of years ago, they didn't recognize her.

[144,000]

anyone here who thinks she is influential outside the US doesn't think right, the woman wasn't let in in one of the boutiques in Paris a couple of years ago, they didn't recognize her.

well, people who know they are reaching, in order to defend Oprah, are willing to act like they know what's going on inside a country, in which they don't live. here in the usa, viewership is declining. that's why she's retiring. that's just a hard fact. i haven't seen her show in years, outside any interview having to do with MJ, and, ususally, in my neighborhood, all the people have Judge Judy on their tv's, at the Oprah time.

and oprah made it a demand that she wouldn't talk abuot things or people she didn't like, when her ratings were still reasonable from the fallout of having interviewed MJ. it's clear from the questions she asked about pedophilia, she doesn't like him, and she's envious of him. so, she is doing these interviews out of ratings desperation. and she's giving into the demands of other people on smaller networks..a sure indicator that she is no longer in control, and is desperate for money. there is no way, a person can give into the demand of making too many apperances, when they wanted to retire, unless, they are losing money. there was a time, when people couldn't demand all this from her, when things were going really well. that time is gone.

[CherubimII]

The Library Room is quite Beautiful.

(chauny @ Oct 22 2010, 08:32 PM) http://www.mjj2005.com/kopboard/style_images/blue/post_snapback.gif (http://www.mjj2005.com/kopboard/index.php?act=findpost&pid=1395915)From the KOP.
<!--quotec--><!--coloro:#0000FF--><!--/coloro-->Promo Photo Released to the Press via Harpo.


http://d.yimg.com/a/p/ap/20101022/capt.134bdb50d9a440dfad80631bc1a63c25-134bdb50d9a440dfad80631bc1a63c25-0.jpg

Katherine Jackson

In this photo taken Oct. 9, 2010 in Los Angeles, Katherine Jackson, mother of the late king of pop Michael Jackson, and Oprah Winfrey pose at the filming of an interview in which Jackson reflects on the life of her son from his childhood superstardom to recounting the day he passed away. The interview will air on 'The Oprah Winfrey Show' sometime in November

[MJStorm]

UNBELIEVABLE. That family is really a waste of time:


Twitter JackieJackson5:

# f you wanna know who was MY Teenage Heart Throb, watch the show Nov 4th! about 9 hours ago via TweetDeck

# Just finished taping the Oprah show. The show is about Teenage Heart Throbs - & I was Oprah's! We had lots of fun - watch the show Nov 4th about 9 hours ago via TweetDeck

[Ashtanga]

UNBELIEVABLE. That family is really a waste of time:

Yes! :o I just kept thinking... :wtf: It seems that the family are developing a great relationship with Oprah. :smilerolleyes: :fear:




I posted here (2300 Jackson Street):

http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showthread.php?p=3028072#post3028072

[bluetopez]

So there are two more Jackson related specials Oprah is having then? One with Jackie Jackson on her teenage Heartthrob special (why, Jackie...WHY?! O_O) and the other with with Katherine Jackson?


Now, I can get Katherine wanting to set the record straight about MJ to the slow public!

But, what does Jackie going on a date with Oprah going do for MJ's legacy? Cause this is all about Mj right...? Maybe for Katherine only! SMH

But, others are self serving! IMO!

[ginvid]

Yes, I think so.

[Petrarose]

So there are two more Jackson related specials Oprah is having then? One with Jackie Jackson on her teenage Heartthrob special (why, Jackie...WHY?! O_O) and the other with with Katherine Jackson?


Now, I can get Katherine wanting to set the record straight about MJ to the slow public!

But, what does Jackie going on a date with Oprah going do for MJ's legacy? Cause this is all about Mj right...? Maybe for Katherine only! SMH

But, others are self serving! IMO!

Do I hear wedding bells for Jackie and Oprah. Just kidding, but seriously..........

[bluetopez]

Do I hear wedding bells for Jackie and Oprah. Just kidding, but seriously..........


Gayle....I mean Stedmen wouldn't like that!:ph34r::rofl:

[Petrarose]

Gayle....I mean Stedmen wouldn't like that!:ph34r::rofl:

Ha, Ha. You got me there.

[ExoticPrincess]

Twitter JackieJackson5:

# f you wanna know who was MY Teenage Heart Throb, watch the show Nov 4th! about 9 hours ago via TweetDeck

# Just finished taping the Oprah show. The show is about Teenage Heart Throbs - & I was Oprah's! We had lots of fun - watch the show Nov 4th about 9 hours ago via TweetDeck


Oprah just tweeted:

.OMG! Just had a SURPRISE date with Jackie Jackson. My teen idol hearthrob. Tried not to talk too much or eat too much. Succeeded at neither!
about 1 hour ago via OpenBeak


:bugeyed

Please, please tell me this is a cruel joke!?!?

Now who's left to be on her show? LaToya, Marlon, Jermaine, Rebbie....



Winfrey lands President Bush, Jackson's parents

CHICAGO – Former President George W. Bush and Michael Jackson's parents are among the big names "The Oprah Winfrey Show" has booked for the November ratings sweeps.

Harpo Productions released a schedule Friday, including a show featuring Bush discussing his memoir, "Decision Points," on Nov. 9 — the day of its release.

No date was given for the Jacksons' interview. The production company says Katherine Jackson will talk about her son's life from childhood stardom to his death. She'll be joined by her husband, Joe Jackson.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101022/...winfrey_sweeps (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101022/ap_en_tv/us_winfrey_sweeps)
<!-- / message -->

And there is a reason why no air date has been given......she is gonna hype this thing up as MAJOR GET! just watch and see.

[prettygirlmj]

I have a feeling it will air in November....

[mjdove]

His children duty is not to defend him. Not now. Only when they grow up. They should not be stimulated and encouraged to want to go to those shows. Adults can do that subtly, then they come saying ' but the children asked for it'You are so right.

I start to hate them ALL! Exceptionally of course his kids.

The poor children. I hope they will not go this way ....

[Arklove]

Jackie on Oprah's heartthrob show? Obviously, it's cuz Jackie was OPRAH'S crush back when she was a teenager...Remember she mentioned that in her interview with Michael? (just a little side note)

I'm curious to see what the interview with Katherine will be like....

[CherubimII]

Prediction:<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->During the Oprah interview, Katherine and Joe Jackson will talk mostly about how they miss Michael Jackson, love his children...

<!--coloro:#006400--><!--/coloro-->BUT, <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->unfortunately, they have not been able to get their hands on the money Michael Jackson left his children.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--sizec--><!--/sizec-->http://www.mjj2005.com/kopboard/style_emoticons/default/girlsigh.gif

[Diplomate]

Lol.

No one of the Jacksons would be with Oprah if Mike WAS alive.

They can't do nothing by themself. They are just brothers, sisters and parents of MICHAEL JACKSON.

That's their life. Brother or sister or parent.

Sad for them.

[twinklEE]

Lol.

No one of the Jacksons would be with Oprah if Mike WAS alive.

They can't do nothing by themself. They are just brothers, sisters and parents of MICHAEL JACKSON.

That's their life. Brother or sister or parent.

Sad for them.
A very BIG AMEN to this!!!!! They were destined to be just that and nothing more, :clapping::better::better::clapping::clapping:

[Snow White luvs Peter Pan]

I agree Diplomate :yes:

That's what relatives get when they share the DNA with the biggest musical genius of our time. I really hope/wish Michael's children don't go through the same situation like their relatives.

[marebear]

I just saw a commecial for Oprah's Nov shows and katherine wasn't shown. They showed Marie Osmond, George Bush, Barbra Streisand etc but nothing about Katherine and Joe. I thought they might have shown them.

[mjzfille]

Lol.

No one of the Jacksons would be with Oprah if Mike WAS alive.

They can't do nothing by themself. They are just brothers, sisters and parents of MICHAEL JACKSON.

That's their life. Brother or sister or parent.

Sad for them.

Thats quote of the day lol :punk:

[MsCassieMollie]

Michael drew this!!!
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs807.snc4/68760_449962898212_43921468212_5318814_6870207_n.j pg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs444.ash2/71700_449961038212_43921468212_5318792_7603865_n.j pg

[Diplomate]

Michael drew this!!!
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs807.snc4/68760_449962898212_43921468212_5318814_6870207_n.j pg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs444.ash2/71700_449961038212_43921468212_5318792_7603865_n.j pg

WAOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!

MARTIN LUTHER KING!

Mike was a ****ing genius!

But to see this bitch in his home, I'm sorry, I can't , I really can't accept that!

[marebear]

Michael did that? That's great.

[ginvid]

Thank goodness Joe did this interview before he lost the bid to turn over the estate executors! Or this interview might be very different. But I will wait and see what they say.

[twinklEE]

Michael drew this!!!
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs807.snc4/68760_449962898212_43921468212_5318814_6870207_n.j pg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs444.ash2/71700_449961038212_43921468212_5318792_7603865_n.j pg
Just AMAZING!!! I'm speechless just a very big WOW! :mello::bugeyed
Michael was a true artist in every sense, may God bless his soul:no:

[AnnieRUOkay89]

I always knew Michael liked to draw occasionally, but sheesh, that's amazing!

[Laura.L.]

Michael drew this!!!

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs444.ash2/71700_449961038212_43921468212_5318792_7603865_n.j pg

Is there anything the man couldn't do? That is brilliant!!

To me it looks like this is the original photo:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_K5ls3SJu5Qo/S1TKXr_2UCI/AAAAAAAACb8/0u7oP6ewXRc/s640/DrMartinLutherKingJr.jpg

Michael did a very good job!

[CherubimII]

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs444.ash2/71700_449961038212_43921468212_5318792_7603865_n.j pg http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_K5ls3SJu5Qo/S1TKXr_2UCI/AAAAAAAACb8/0u7oP6ewXRc/s640/DrMartinLutherKingJr.jpg

I THANK YOU FOR SHARING!!!! Michael is an Artistical Genius. :wub:

[suzynyc]

Michael drew this!!!
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs807.snc4/68760_449962898212_43921468212_5318814_6870207_n.j pg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs444.ash2/71700_449961038212_43921468212_5318792_7603865_n.j pg

Did he really? That's really good. What site are these Oprah photos from?

[Ashtanga]

Michael drew this!!!
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs807.snc4/68760_449962898212_43921468212_5318814_6870207_n.j pg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs444.ash2/71700_449961038212_43921468212_5318792_7603865_n.j pg

A great designer. A complete artist. :clapping: :wild: :punk: I am very proud of him. :wub:


:cry:




Who's that girl with Oprah? Halima? :scratch:

[MsCassieMollie]

Did he really? That's really good. What site are these Oprah photos from?

Brett-Livingstone Strong FB page. The lady in the first photo is his wife. They were present at the Jacksons Encino home where the interview took place.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Brett-Livingstone-Strong/43921468212?v=photos#!/album.php?aid=247901&id=43921468212

[MsCassieMollie]

A great designer. A complete artist. :clapping: :wild: :punk: I am very proud of him. :wub:


:cry:




Who's that girl with Oprah? Halima? :scratch:

I thought that was her, too lol. That's Brett-Livingstone Strong's wife. Brett was a good friend of Michael since the 80's. They were both at his funeral and at the family home in Encino when Oprah was there.

[Ashtanga]

To me it looks like this is the original photo:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_K5ls3SJu5Qo/S1TKXr_2UCI/AAAAAAAACb8/0u7oP6ewXRc/s640/DrMartinLutherKingJr.jpg

Michael did a very good job!

YES!!!!!!! :wild:





Brett-Livingstone Strong FB page. The lady in the first photo is his wife. They were present at the Jacksons Encino home where the interview took place.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Brett-Livingstone-Strong/43921468212?v=photos#!/album.php?aid=247901&id=43921468212


I thought that was her, too lol. That's Brett-Livingstone Strong's wife. Brett was a good friend of Michael since the 80's. They were both at his funeral and at the family home in Encino when Oprah was there.

Thanks! :)

I do not know it was her (Brett-Livingstone Strong's wife)! :doh: In this picture she is very much like Halima. :wild: It is the angle of the picture.

Does anyone know when that drawing was made?



OMG! I'm sure... I cry when watching this interview. :cry: *big sigh*

[Petrarose]

Michael had many talents, which is one of the reasons so many were jealous of him and tried to bring him down.

[8701girl]

Wow that pic of martin luther king that mj drew is amazing!!! :wild:. Michael was truly an amazing man.


Btw i thought brett living strong was more of lisa marie's friend, i must be wrong lol

[bluetopez]

Brett-Livingstone Strong FB page. The lady in the first photo is his wife. They were present at the Jacksons Encino home where the interview took place.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Brett-Livingstone-Strong/43921468212?v=photos#!/album.php?aid=247901&id=43921468212 (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Brett-Livingstone-Strong/43921468212?v=photos#%21/album.php?aid=247901&id=43921468212)

Cool, Thanks! If u look at the pics on Brett face book u see another pic MJ drew that looks like Abraham Lincoln! :wild:

That Martin Luther King Jr. Drawing MJ did looks awesome!:punk:

By the way is it me or Oprah has on the same outfit she ware while interviewing LMP? :scratch:So both were on the the same day? Or does she have lots of the same sweaters in the same color? lol She went to London then back to Cali that fast or was it the other way around? Well it is possible by airplane! lol Anyways, I was just being curious!:D

[ExoticPrincess]

This drawing does'nt surprise me in the least......Michael had talent over flowing from every part of his being, thats why he was and will always be the best!

If only Ms. O was'nt in that pic *sigh*

[souldreamer7]

Michael drew this!!!
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs807.snc4/68760_449962898212_43921468212_5318814_6870207_n.j pg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs444.ash2/71700_449961038212_43921468212_5318792_7603865_n.j pg

Of course Michael drew this. Brilliant! :yes:
Thanks for posting* :)

[Laura.L.]

If u look at the pics on Brett face book u see another pic MJ drew that looks like Abraham Lincoln! :wild:



http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs025.snc4/33610_449963588212_43921468212_5318824_5570518_n.j pg

I think you're right, bluetopez. :) It looks the same as this:

http://www.morallaw.org/images/abraham_lincoln_younger_1.jpg

[JMie]

Michael could have become a great artist.... no wonder Paris encouraged him to take art classes..... if only he had more time...

[bluetopez]

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs025.snc4/33610_449963588212_43921468212_5318824_5570518_n.j pg

I think you're right, bluetopez. :) It looks the same as this:

http://www.morallaw.org/images/abraham_lincoln_younger_1.jpg


Yes, so awesome I wish I could draw like him!:wub:

[twinklEE]

Michael could have become a great artist.... no wonder Paris encouraged him to take art classes..... if only he had more time...
I agree, the girl herself draws a lot, she was surely inspired by her daddy

[rockstar]

is amazing his drawing :clap:

[suzynyc]

Brett-Livingstone Strong FB page. The lady in the first photo is his wife. They were present at the Jacksons Encino home where the interview took place.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Brett-Livingstone-Strong/43921468212?v=photos#!/album.php?aid=247901&id=43921468212

Thanks for the link. :)

I've seen many of Michael's sketches and I know this was another great talent he had but this MLK drawing (and now the Lincoln drawing) are the few I've seen that are portraits of adults and not cartoon characters or kids. This one is so serious. I love it. I would like to see more like this.

[StephluvsMJ]

Has nothing to do with Oprah or the interview, but...

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/9272/vlcsnap171895.jpg
http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/5269/vlcsnap174477.jpg

Michael's drawing of Cicily Tyson playing Miss Jane Pittman. Jane Pittman... a black woman in the South born into slavery in the 1850s lived to become a part of the civil rights movement in the 1960s.

[Ashtanga]

Has nothing to do with Oprah or the interview, but...

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/9272/vlcsnap171895.jpg
http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/5269/vlcsnap174477.jpg

Michael's drawing of Cicily Tyson playing Miss Jane Pittman. Jane Pittman... a black woman in the South born into slavery in the 1850s lived to become a part of the civil rights movement in the 1960s.

Great! :wild: Thanks for posting! :)

This drawing I had ever seen. :wild: The man had many talents. :wub:

[Arklove]

^^ WOW!! I wish I could purchase everything he's ever drawn :wild: :heart:

[suzynyc]

Has nothing to do with Oprah or the interview, but...

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/9272/vlcsnap171895.jpg
http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/5269/vlcsnap174477.jpg

Michael's drawing of Cicily Tyson playing Miss Jane Pittman. Jane Pittman... a black woman in the South born into slavery in the 1850s lived to become a part of the civil rights movement in the 1960s.

Ah yes! I watched the footage of that show on youtube recently (link posted on MJJC). That is a beautiful drawing of Cicily Tyson as Miss Jane Pittman. Gosh, I didn't really begin to sketch portraits well until I was an adult. Michael was sketching brilliantly at such a young age.

As an aside, I'll never forget watching that TV movie air in the 70's (The Autobiography of Miss Jane Pittman). It was an event almost like watching "Roots" was. If you guys haven't seen it, you really must. Cicily Tyson is brilliant.

[Diplomate]

A genius.

[Ohood]

there is also, one of Elvis ,,,one of his servants stole it !

[0o0jackie0o0]

any news on when the interview will air?

[ginvid]

It was advertised as airing in Nov but no specific date has been said as of yet.

[Mirabella76]

Jackie Jackson on Oprah Show on NOVEMBER 4
"Your favorite teen heartthrobs are here! Tag along on Oprah's dream date with Jackie Jackson. Then, Shaun Cassidy, the Backstreet Boys and Peter Frampton take the stage!".

http://www.oprah.com/showinfo/Teen-Heartthrob-Surprises

[Ashtanga]

Jackie Jackson on Oprah Show on NOVEMBER 4
"Your favorite teen heartthrobs are here! Tag along on Oprah's dream date with Jackie Jackson. Then, Shaun Cassidy, the Backstreet Boys and Peter Frampton take the stage!".

http://www.oprah.com/showinfo/Teen-Heartthrob-Surprises

Look: http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=97289&page=5

[Naturelle]

She just came off as clueless and angry at MJ in that interview and gave Oprah exactly what she wanted!

that was not a very smart way to go Janet, especially when it 't all unture. i agree with the poster who stated all of the family should have become more familar about the autopsy report befor anyone does rounds of interviews. Now they all look disconnected to the outside world and Michael once again has been used by family. Sad.

they should have just said nothing, or turned down all interviews until michael had been buried, that way maybe one of the family member may have come up with a bright idea and say, "we are the ones who need an intervention here. We have lost our son, brother uncle cousin etc and before we go out on national tv, we should sit down and decide what we want to get across to the media and others, (fans)."
By doing this , they would have seemed to be more of a caring family as opposd to how it has turned out....

it's a mess right now and all they seem to be always thinking about is MONEY. When they should be concentrating on getting Murray convicted. Leave all those money attention seeking ideas alone for now and go after murray. Hell, we as fans probably may know more about some things than some family members regarding murrary.
Just keeps the kids to get dragged along too in the mud along with MJ. :no:

Someone spotted murray in Santa Monica yesterday walking around in a full out "Kobe Bryant" uniform... what 's next ? Well he'll continue to walk around a free man until the family starts to put pressure on the law to take murray into custody.

[Mirabella76]

Ups :)

[Mirabella76]

Look: http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=97289&page=5

Oh thank you i didn't see that

[Moonwalker.Fan]

The Associated Press
Posted: 11/01/2010 02:52:13 PM PDT
Updated: 11/01/2010 02:52:13 PM PDT

CHICAGO—Katherine Jackson will discuss the death of her son, pop superstar Michael Jackson, in an interview with Oprah Winfrey.

Harpo Productions said Monday that Winfrey's interview with Jackson's mother will air Nov. 8 on "The Oprah Winfrey Show." Jackson's father, Joe Jackson, and his three children, Prince, Paris and Blanket Jackson, will also appear during a backyard visit taped for the episode.

Winfrey and Katherine Jackson filmed the interview at the family's home in Encino, Calif. The Chicago-based production company says Katherine Jackson talks about the day her son died and reflects on his life as a childhood star.

Michael Jackson died unexpectedly in June 2009. He gave a famous interview to Winfrey in 1993 in which he first disclosed suffering from the skin condition vitiligo.

[AllForLove]

The Associated Press
Posted: 11/01/2010 02:52:13 PM PDT
Updated: 11/01/2010 02:52:13 PM PDT

CHICAGO—Katherine Jackson will discuss the death of her son, pop superstar Michael Jackson, in an interview with Oprah Winfrey.

Harpo Productions said Monday that Winfrey's interview with Jackson's mother will air Nov. 8 on "The Oprah Winfrey Show." Jackson's father, Joe Jackson, and his three children, Prince, Paris and Blanket Jackson, will also appear during a backyard visit taped for the episode.

Winfrey and Katherine Jackson filmed the interview at the family's home in Encino, Calif. The Chicago-based production company says Katherine Jackson talks about the day her son died and reflects on his life as a childhood star.

Michael Jackson died unexpectedly in June 2009. He gave a famous interview to Winfrey in 1993 in which he first disclosed suffering from the skin condition vitiligo.


I understand that the kids will appear but don't talk, am I wrong ? (I hope no)
Only Mrs Jackson will be on interview, right ?

[rockstar]

Katherine Jackson will be on Oprah show nexts weeks on Nov 8 :yes:

[Sophielo]

Seems like the kids will just be shown and no interview aired but we shall see.

[Diplomate]

Mike will be happy.


-_____-

[Thrill]

yeah, maybe she took a tour around and they filmed the house/garden and the kids were playing in the backyard and stuff.. maybe they will say one word or so and nothing more (hope)..

[PCR]

I will never understand this.
Using the kids as if they were but baits.... using the kids... using any kids at all...

this is beyond my poor understanding. And to be honest, I rather remain ignorant to the reasons behind this kind of actions by Mrs. Jackson. As for Oprah... cash is of course her only reason why. She has no shame.

This is really so, so sad. Michael never sold his kids. The pics of baby Prince were sold at the highest prices and the money was used in charities. Tom Cruise sells pics of his baby... Angelina, and any others. Never Michael. He protected them.

I don't understand this situation at all.

[CherubimII]

I will never understand this.
Using the kids as if they were but baits.... using the kids... using any kids at all...

this is beyond my poor understanding. And to be honest, I rather remain ignorant to the reasons behind this kind of actions by Mrs. Jackson. As for Oprah... cash is of course her only reason why. She has no shame.

This is really so, so sad. Michael never sold his kids. The pics of baby Prince were sold at the highest prices and the money was used in charities. Tom Cruise sells pics of his baby... Angelina, and any others. Never Michael. He protected them.

I don't understand this situation at all.

Really? The Jacksons have a history of child show business labor.
This is a family who put their 5 year old child to work.

[Diplomate]

The Gold chid is dead, so now let's use his kids.

Wonderful family these pathetics loosers Jacksons.

ANYTHING FOR MONEY.


I can't wait to see Bashir at Hayvenhurst.

[max000]

KATHERINE is on monday nov 8th and the TYLER PERRY show with an all men audience who were molested is friday nov the 5th. OPRAH will be promoting the KATHERINE show to the max during that molestation show with PERRY.

[Alma]

edit..

[CherubimII]

It is what it is: "Child Labor". <!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--IBF.ATTACHMENT_1399765-->

[marebear]

KATHERINE is on monday nov 8th and the TYLER PERRY show with an all men audience who were molested is friday nov the 5th. OPRAH will be promoting the KATHERINE show to the max during that molestation show with PERRY.

What is with these molestation shows? Lisa marie's was in the middle of two shows like that. As for Katherine's interview I am just going to hope for the best here. I don't know what else to do.

[max000]

What is with these molestation shows? Lisa marie's was in the middle of two shows like that. As for Katherine's interview I am just going to hope for the best here. I don't know what else to do.


Hoped for distance between the two shows. Should have known better.

[CherubimII]

Michael Jackson's Mother To Tell All On 'Oprah'

Late King of Pop's father, Joe, and his three children also set to join Katherine during hour-long November 8 episode.


Oprah Winfrey is closing out her long-running talk show's final season with a bang. So far, Winfrey has scored hard-to-get interviews with the likes of "Harry Potter" author J.K. Rowling, featured a much sought-after reunion of the cast of "The Sound of Music" and on November 8 will dedicate a full hour to a Jackson family tell-all special.

According to The Associated Press, (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101101/ap_en_mu/us_winfrey_katherine_jackson) Winfrey recently visited the Jackson family home in Encino, California, for an extensive sit-down with matriarch Katherine Jackson. A rep for Harpo Productions confirmed the air date for next Monday with MTV News. Jackson's father, Joe, as well as his three children, Prince, Paris and Blanket, will also appear during a "backyard visit" taped for the episode. Katherine will reportedly discuss the day her son died and reflect on his life as a child star.

Gossip website X17 Online (http://x17online.com/celebrities/michael_jackson/x17_exclusive_oprah_to_air_jackson_tellall_n.php) reported that it is still unclear how many other members of the family will be featured, but that several relatives, including Randy Jackson, were not informed about the interviews so as to avoid any possible confrontations.

The site also reported that the show's producers are still trying to secure an interview with the mother of two of Jackson's children, Debbie Rowe. Other topics that may be addressed during the one-hour special include Katherine's wrongful death civil lawsuit against promoter AEG (http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1647967/20100915/jackson_michael.jhtml) and the family's legal woes with Michael's estate.

The rep for Harpo did not comment on attempts to secure an interview with Rowe, but said there were no plans to extend the one-hour episode into two shows.

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1651293/20101101/jackson_michael.jhtml

[Memefan]

Didn't Debbie Rowe claim she was the one who asked MJ to put mask on the kids, for fear of kidnapping?

Well, she should have something to say about them appearing on Oprah. Otherwise, I will think she was lying...

[Naturelle]

Mike will be happy.


-_____-



:scratch:

[ForeverKOP]

Michael Jackson's Mother To Tell All On 'Oprah'

Late King of Pop's father, Joe, and his three children also set to join Katherine during hour-long November 8 episode.


Oprah Winfrey is closing out her long-running talk show's final season with a bang. So far, Winfrey has scored hard-to-get interviews with the likes of "Harry Potter" author J.K. Rowling, featured a much sought-after reunion of the cast of "The Sound of Music" and on November 8 will dedicate a full hour to a Jackson family tell-all special.

According to The Associated Press, (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101101/ap_en_mu/us_winfrey_katherine_jackson) Winfrey recently visited the Jackson family home in Encino, California, for an extensive sit-down with matriarch Katherine Jackson. A rep for Harpo Productions confirmed the air date for next Monday with MTV News. Jackson's father, Joe, as well as his three children, Prince, Paris and Blanket, will also appear during a "backyard visit" taped for the episode. Katherine will reportedly discuss the day her son died and reflect on his life as a child star.

Gossip website X17 Online (http://x17online.com/celebrities/michael_jackson/x17_exclusive_oprah_to_air_jackson_tellall_n.php) reported that it is still unclear how many other members of the family will be featured, but that several relatives, including Randy Jackson, were not informed about the interviews so as to avoid any possible confrontations.

The site also reported that the show's producers are still trying to secure an interview with the mother of two of Jackson's children, Debbie Rowe. Other topics that may be addressed during the one-hour special include Katherine's wrongful death civil lawsuit against promoter AEG (http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1647967/20100915/jackson_michael.jhtml) and the family's legal woes with Michael's estate.

The rep for Harpo did not comment on attempts to secure an interview with Rowe, but said there were no plans to extend the one-hour episode into two shows.

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1651293/20101101/jackson_michael.jhtml


Ok..sow now she's trying to get Debbie Rowe on the show too...WTFFF?!!
Oprah, I didn't know you were so into Michael Jackson, getting all the connections to him you can before your show ends. SMH. She's already got Michael's kids on the show...what's next?

[ExoticPrincess]

KATHERINE is on monday nov 8th and the TYLER PERRY show with an all men audience who were molested is friday nov the 5th. OPRAH will be promoting the KATHERINE show to the max during that molestation show with PERRY.


Why is this not surprising?!?!:smilerolleyes:


The site also reported that the show's producers are still trying to secure an interview with the mother of two of Jackson's children, Debbie Rowe. Other topics that may be addressed during the one-hour special include Katherine's wrongful death civil lawsuit against promoter AEG (http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1647967/20100915/jackson_michael.jhtml) and the family's legal woes with Michael's estate.



I always thought that this might just happen. Oprah getting all she can get out of everyone associated with Michael. Given what Lisa said it would be interesting to hear Debbie's take on things.


Jackson's father, Joe, as well as his three children, Prince, Paris and Blanket, will also appear during a "backyard visit" taped for the episode

Even having these children 'appear' on the show is going against everything Michael did to keep them away from public scrutiny. Michael would not be pleased I'm sure.

[Hess]

???

what to think what to think...

[earthlyme]

WTf? :wtf: really O?


L.o.v.e.
Romi

[Naturelle]

Michael Jackson's Mother To Tell All On 'Oprah'

Late King of Pop's father, Joe, and his three children also set to join Katherine during hour-long November 8 episode.


Oprah Winfrey is closing out her long-running talk show's final season with a bang. So far, Winfrey has scored hard-to-get interviews with the likes of "Harry Potter" author J.K. Rowling, featured a much sought-after reunion of the cast of "The Sound of Music" and on November 8 will dedicate a full hour to a Jackson family tell-all special.

According to The Associated Press, (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101101/ap_en_mu/us_winfrey_katherine_jackson) Winfrey recently visited the Jackson family home in Encino, California, for an extensive sit-down with matriarch Katherine Jackson. A rep for Harpo Productions confirmed the air date for next Monday with MTV News. Jackson's father, Joe, as well as his three children, Prince, Paris and Blanket, will also appear during a "backyard visit" taped for the episode. Katherine will reportedly discuss the day her son died and reflect on his life as a child star.

Gossip website X17 Online (http://x17online.com/celebrities/michael_jackson/x17_exclusive_oprah_to_air_jackson_tellall_n.php) reported that it is still unclear how many other members of the family will be featured, but that several relatives, including Randy Jackson, were not informed about the interviews so as to avoid any possible confrontations.

The site also reported that the show's producers are still trying to secure an interview with the mother of two of Jackson's children, Debbie Rowe. Other topics that may be addressed during the one-hour special include Katherine's wrongful death civil lawsuit against promoter AEG (http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1647967/20100915/jackson_michael.jhtml) and the family's legal woes with Michael's estate.

The rep for Harpo did not comment on attempts to secure an interview with Rowe, but said there were no plans to extend the one-hour episode into two shows.

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1651293/20101101/jackson_michael.jhtml

Well , there ya go folks. A one hour tell-all -_-

[prettygirlmj]

I'm sad to hear that Prince, Paris and Blanket will also be interviewed. :sad:

It's just not right.

[max000]

Why is this not surprising?!?!:smilerolleyes:



I always thought that this might just happen. Oprah getting all she can get out of everyone associated with Michael. Given what Lisa said it would be interesting to hear Debbie's take on things.



Even having these children 'appear' on the show is going against everything Michael did to keep them away from public scrutiny. Michael would not be pleased I'm sure.


Queen OPRAH bagged lisa marie, katherine and maybe MJ'S kids. You know she is courting debbie with great vigor. Here's hoping debbie doesn't bite, and tells OPRAH to shove it.

[prettygirlmj]

I don't see anything wrong with interview Debbie, but it would be a bit hypocritical in her part because she was always the one who claimed to have made Michael put masks on the kids and now they are all going Oprah having a jolly great time!

[serendipity]

I don't see anything wrong with interview Debbie, but it would be a bit hypocritical in her part because she was always the one who claimed to have made Michael put masks on the kids and now they are all going Oprah having a jolly great time!

I don't see how it would be hypocritical of Debbie. She's not the guardian of the children, it's not her decision to make, it's Katherine's.

[Memefan]

I don't see how it would be hypocritical of Debbie. She's not the guardian of the children, it's not her decision to make, it's Katherine's.

She is their legal parent. Regardless...she has a say.

There is no way Debbie will do an Oprah interview...The estate will shut her payments down faster than she can hop on one of her horses.

I remember a few years back, MJ stopped her payments because she did an interview with Entertainment Tonight. MJ was pissed, even though she did not mention the kids or him in the interview.

MJ was smart to get that clause in there...enough interview for F**k's sake.

[ivy]

She is their legal parent. Regardless...she has a say.


I don't think that she has any say. Katherine got the custody , all Debbie got is visitation rights.


I don't see how it would be hypocritical of Debbie. She's not the guardian of the children, it's not her decision to make, it's Katherine's.

I think "hypocritical" was in the sense that she wouldn't want her kids to be interviewed but yet doing an interview with the person (Oprah) that interviewed her kids would be hypocritical.

However even if that was the case I don't think that blaming Oprah (and/or any media) will be right. Oprah (and/or any media) would want to interview the kids of course, but they couldn't do if if they weren't allowed.

side note : I do not think that the masks were Debbie's idea, IMO she wasn't making any decisions regarding the kids from the start. I believe that saying the masks were her idea was her way of defending Michael.

[Thetruthbetold]

Michael Jackson's Mother To Tell All On 'Oprah'

Late King of Pop's father, Joe, and his three children also set to join Katherine during hour-long November 8 episode.


Oprah Winfrey is closing out her long-running talk show's final season with a bang. So far, Winfrey has scored hard-to-get interviews with the likes of "Harry Potter" author J.K. Rowling, featured a much sought-after reunion of the cast of "The Sound of Music" and on November 8 will dedicate a full hour to a Jackson family tell-all special.

According to The Associated Press, (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101101/ap_en_mu/us_winfrey_katherine_jackson) Winfrey recently visited the Jackson family home in Encino, California, for an extensive sit-down with matriarch Katherine Jackson. A rep for Harpo Productions confirmed the air date for next Monday with MTV News. Jackson's father, Joe, as well as his three children, Prince, Paris and Blanket, will also appear during a "backyard visit" taped for the episode. Katherine will reportedly discuss the day her son died and reflect on his life as a child star.

Gossip website X17 Online (http://x17online.com/celebrities/michael_jackson/x17_exclusive_oprah_to_air_jackson_tellall_n.php) reported that it is still unclear how many other members of the family will be featured, but that several relatives, including Randy Jackson, were not informed about the interviews so as to avoid any possible confrontations.

The site also reported that the show's producers are still trying to secure an interview with the mother of two of Jackson's children, Debbie Rowe. Other topics that may be addressed during the one-hour special include Katherine's wrongful death civil lawsuit against promoter AEG (http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1647967/20100915/jackson_michael.jhtml) and the family's legal woes with Michael's estate.

The rep for Harpo did not comment on attempts to secure an interview with Rowe, but said there were no plans to extend the one-hour episode into two shows.

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1651293/20101101/jackson_michael.jhtml

Debbie is not going to give Oprah no interview do they can dead that her friend already address this to me and said she still in mourning and I will not give her close friend Info out her and Mrs.Jackson is close and she is aware of this interview with his mother and kids have a nice day>>>

[Memefan]

I don't think that she has any say. Katherine got the custody , all Debbie got is visitation rights.

She retains all her parental rights...therefore she has a say. If she has an issue, she can bring it to Katherine and if they can't agree she could take it to court (worse case scenario). If DR had no say, DCFS wouldn't have contacted, and provided her a copy of their report, her during the stun gun incident.

She can go to court tomorrow morning and ask a court to stop the interview if she wanted to.

It looks like Oprah will not air the kids' interview, so it might not be that big of a deal to DR.







.

[Ashtanga]

Oh thank you i didn't see that

:)






The Associated Press
Posted: 11/01/2010 02:52:13 PM PDT
Updated: 11/01/2010 02:52:13 PM PDT

CHICAGO—Katherine Jackson will discuss the death of her son, pop superstar Michael Jackson, in an interview with Oprah Winfrey.

Harpo Productions said Monday that Winfrey's interview with Jackson's mother will air Nov. 8 on "The Oprah Winfrey Show." Jackson's father, Joe Jackson, and his three children, Prince, Paris and Blanket Jackson, will also appear during a backyard visit taped for the episode.

Winfrey and Katherine Jackson filmed the interview at the family's home in Encino, Calif. The Chicago-based production company says Katherine Jackson talks about the day her son died and reflects on his life as a childhood star.

Michael Jackson died unexpectedly in June 2009. He gave a famous interview to Winfrey in 1993 in which he first disclosed suffering from the skin condition vitiligo.

God, I'm so fear that interview. :fear:

:( *big sigh*




Prayers for PPB... :pray: :angel:

[mkgenie]

http://www.mjjcn.com/mjjcnforum/data/attachment/forum/201011/02/1218158nzjhghgxgwx1h1y.jpg

OPRAH and kids

anyone can get a hi-res photo?

[Snow White luvs Peter Pan]

:nono: BIG SIGH

[DeeEmAych]

Wow it's true... She really interviewed his kids... Smh....

[souldreamer7]

Well of course Oprah did.

[DanceofLorelei1994]

I don't mean this directly at Katherine as I truly do respect her and I think she's been lured into this but...

Damn! Those Jacksons need to much better at looking after the kids!

Still, no matter what, I know the kids will still be shown in good light.

[#1MJstan]

I am sure Mrs.Jackson told Oprah that she can't mention certain things around the kids. Oprah probably asked them how they like school and a few questions about their dad.

[mj_brainiac]

I'm pretty sure Mrs. Jackson put her foot down and let Oprah and her team know what she won't take any disrespect from her

[JMie]

oh my. I just hope Oprah won't discuss Michael's final day and the drugs in the kids' presence.

[serendipity]

Putting them on Oprah is already disrespectful enough of MJ's wishes. It's noting but using them for everybody's agendas - Oprah getting her high ratings and the Jacksons promoting their stuff and possibly talking about their lawsuits. It's just not right.

[rickd]

Lol!

Omg cute! Look at the kids all happy! With Aunty Oprah! Now ppb you won't know this but Aunty O has been calling your daddy or at least implying he's a kiddie fiddler for ohhh what is it now? 15 years? **** me, time does fly!

Annyway enough about that! You tell aunty o how happy you are living with grandma in front of middle America so we can all think you're much better off & normal without silly daddy and his masks. Ohh watch out blanket, fatso finds you funny! She gon eat yo Ass watch out ohhhh haha. Hey kids, you're rich like aunty oprah too! Wow! More lemonade?!? Speak up dear, grandma can't hear your voice over Michaels casket spinning around at FL.

A MURDER HAPPENED
NOT EVEN 18 MONTHS AGO
MJ would NEVER allow this crap.

[marialovesmjj]

http://www.mjjcn.com/mjjcnforum/data/attachment/forum/201011/02/1218158nzjhghgxgwx1h1y.jpg

OPRAH and kids

anyone can get a hi-res photo?

Wow.

Is this for real? Seriously? Seriously?

I can't.

I just can't.

Shaking my head right now.

[bobmoo79]

I know that MJ did not want his kids in the spotlight, but I actually think it's good that they're getting some air time. At the memorial, Paris' few words about her father was an amazing piece of PR. It showed a new side to MJ that the public never really considered - that perhaps he was a good father after all. Giving the kids some air time, saying the right things could again help improve Mj's reputation as a father and as a person. These kids will always be famous and hounded by the press whatever barriers the Jackson family employ to keep their privacy, so they should embrace it and use it for their own gains. These kids will benefit in the long term if they learn how to handle the media while they're still young. Despite what people say about Mj's great ability to manipulate the media I believe that 95% of it was negative in the last 15 years of his life and he didn't handle the media very well at all. He buried his head in the sand and the bad times got worse. The kids need to know how to handle the media properly and hopefully they'll learn through experiences like this.

[Memefan]

I know that MJ did not want his kids in the spotlight, but I actually think it's good that they're getting some air time. At the memorial, Paris' few words about her father was an amazing piece of PR. It showed a new side to MJ that the public never really considered - that perhaps he was a good father after all. Giving the kids some air time, saying the right things could again help improve Mj's reputation as a father and as a person. These kids will always be famous and hounded by the press whatever barriers the Jackson family employ to keep their privacy, so they should embrace it and use it for their own gains. These kids will benefit in the long term if they learn how to handle the media while they're still young. Despite what people say about Mj's great ability to manipulate the media I believe that 95% of it was negative in the last 15 years of his life and he didn't handle the media very well at all. He buried his head in the sand and the bad times got worse. The kids need to know how to handle the media properly and hopefully they'll learn through experiences like this.

They are grieving kids fro Kryss' sake. They can do it when they are older if that is what they want, MJ did not use his kid for his image, others shouldn't either.

It's TACKY...no matter how you slice it. Exploiting young children...is never appropriate.

Is that a microphone on Paris?

http://i51.tinypic.com/bbvx1.jpg




.

[msladeevon]

I think it good that all three children are being interviewed together . Just get Joseph out ofthere .

[xrisx]

I am so conflicted about this interview. I don't know f I should watch it or not.
I just have a feeling the family is going to talk about things that will hinder their lawsuits (if they discuss those things, which is just not a good move) and if I hear the drugaddict line one more time I swear I will just lose all hope of any real possible lawsuit against Murray.
Not to mention I don't kow if I can watch with the kids involved.

For some reason I can't sit here and act excited. Most likely because Oprah is involved and if the circumstances were different this whole interview wouldn't be happening.
If Michael was behind it all and he was the one to bring is children out like that I would feel more at ease for some reason.
I try to keep an open mind about this interview but the family has done so many questionable things over the past year and a half it's like I'm almost afraid to see/hear what will happen next.

The picture alone makes me shake my head.
I think the kids are smart and probably wonderfull but to see them around Oprah is just..... wrong for some reason.
I don't really see the need of them being there.
Why would Katherine do that? I guess she must have her reasons.
Even if I try there is just a part of me that feels sick about this whole thing.

Of course as a fan another part of me wants to hear what Katherine has to say. Although I think she is being influenced by the wrong people left and right (Just look at the people behind her book for instance)
And I guess it is kind of nice to see the kids.

The whole thing is just confusing to me.

[#1MJstan]

Well the kids may have wanted to speak to her, and if that was the case why should they be denied the right to talk about their father?... I mean we won't know until next Monday. Paris spoke on national tv at her father's service, and P&P both spoke at the Grammy Awards, so is that exploiting grieving children? Let's leave a little bit of room open in our minds to possibly think that the kids may have wanted to speak up.

I fully understand how you all feel about Oprah and her shadiness towards MJ, then to interview his kids, even though she thinks he is a child molester.. smh

[Little_Susie_MJJ]

Is that a microphone on Paris?

http://i51.tinypic.com/bbvx1.jpg




.

Yeah, it is. And I think Prince has one as well...:(
Oh, Michael, where are you? :(

[Tipareth]

Lol!

Omg cute! Look at the kids all happy! With Aunty Oprah! Now ppb you won't know this but Aunty O has been calling your daddy or at least implying he's a kiddie fiddler for ohhh what is it now? 15 years? **** me, time does fly!

Annyway enough about that! You tell aunty o how happy you are living with grandma in front of middle America so we can all think you're much better off & normal without silly daddy and his masks.

I agree.... it's so sad.... :no:

I am sure Oprah would spin this thing... The kids being happy, and Oprah commenting over, insinuating that in a way thay are better this way... In fact this thing was already said by one of the Jacksons, I do not remeber wich one though, think Jermaine..? He said that they are living normally now, finally being able to interact more with other kids, blah blah...

But in the future, when they will be grown up, Mike's children would still have the chance to see the naked truth, and be able to see how those manipulations and lies perpetuated and entered their life, after their father death. They would see the biggest hypocrites with their very own eyes. Oprah being one of them... and Quincy, I bet he is visiting too... etc etc

This gives me hope, not all is lost.... For day and days I felt like losing all hope. Now I still got that.

Their own tv shows and words will turn against them, and Mike's kids will discover the truth. :angel:

[olved]

side note : I do not think that the masks were Debbie's idea, IMO she wasn't making any decisions regarding the kids from the start. I believe that saying the masks were her idea was her way of defending Michael.

I was just going to say that :D When I first saw her telling it,it was clear to me, that she was doing damage control for Michael. And with "I like to invite my guests to my bed - take off your shoes and jump in" -it was too, obvious attempt to take the heat off Michael. IMHO.

And I applaud her for that!

[Dutchie]

It's amazing to see the two faces of Oprah Winfrey. When her voice mattered when Michael was going through difficult times, she was nowhere to be found. She never once stood up to defend this superstar who -like Oprah- had nothing when he started out and worked hard to get where he was. Oprah out of all people should have understood that with fame come leeches, yes-men and vultures. Yet she turned her back on Michael who once (1992) brought her sky high world wide ratings when she interviewed him live from his Neverland Ranch.

But now, she wants to boast her ratings and act like she's all pro-Jacksons. It's sad.....but on a positive note it's great to see that Michael's children seem to be doing well and looking so beautiful. I am sure he is sitting on his crescent moon smiling down on them with pride and joy.<3


Lol!

Omg cute! Look at the kids all happy! With Aunty Oprah! Now ppb you won't know this but Aunty O has been calling your daddy or at least implying he's a kiddie fiddler for ohhh what is it now? 15 years? **** me, time does fly!

Annyway enough about that! You tell aunty o how happy you are living with grandma in front of middle America so we can all think you're much better off & normal without silly daddy and his masks. Ohh watch out blanket, fatso finds you funny! She gon eat yo Ass watch out ohhhh haha. Hey kids, you're rich like aunty oprah too! Wow! More lemonade?!? Speak up dear, grandma can't hear your voice over Michaels casket spinning around at FL.

A MURDER HAPPENED
NOT EVEN 18 MONTHS AGO
MJ would NEVER allow this crap.

That post is mean. I don't think you realize these are Michael's KIDS. They have no idea about the things you just posted.

I do not believe Michael sat them down and gave them a list of the people that did bad things to him. I think he shielded them as much as he could and possibly wanted to let them know when they were old enough.......not having foreseen....well, June 25th '09.

Have some respect for the children....I agree the FAMILY should be protecting them instead of 'feeding' them to Oprah.....but we should NOT take it out on the kids.They are just talking about their daddy.....someone they must miss more than we can ever imagine.

[PCR]

They are grieving kids fro Kryss' sake. They can do it when they are older if that is what they want, MJ did not use his kid for his image, others shouldn't either.

It's TACKY...no matter how you slice it. Exploiting young children...is never appropriate.

Is that a microphone on Paris?

http://i51.tinypic.com/bbvx1.jpg




.

I really, really don't know what to say.
I'm in shock.
Now this woman plays the role of the good aunt?
after hurting Michael so much for all these years. Mercyless.
and so now what?

I don't know what to think.

I just wish Michael was here to protect his children, his most valuable treasure, as he always did. And that doesn't mean keep hidding the, but only NEVER USING THEM TO GET ANY ATTENTION OR ANY MONEY.

For God sake, this is just so wrong!! Kids are kids, they are not property to be exposed on TV this way!!!!!

[PCR]

That post is mean. I don't think you realize these are Michael's KIDS. They have no idea about the things you just posted.

I do not believe Michael sat them down and gave them a list of the people that did bad things to him. I think he shielded them as much as he could and possibly wanted to let them know when they were old enough.......not having foreseen....well, June 25th '09.

Sorry, but that is only your guessing. Truth is we don't know about that, we have no idea of what Michael said/never got to say to his children.

But I see your point. They are KIDS, they are being used, for so far, I haven't heard the kids called Oprah asking to be interviewed.

They are being used, no matter what we say, that's the whole point of this thing. For profit.

What a nasty shame.

[StacyJ]

I cannot believe the gall of Oprah sitting up there laughing and giggling with MJ's kids when she treated MJ like dirt on her shoe. When Mike could've used friends and folks who had the clout to defend him in the media, she had the power but she looked the other way. She could've exposed the set up of ABC/Bashir/ The Arvizo's but she didn't. It was obviously a set up yet no one helped MJ at all. He went to trial and was acquitted and no one said a word about it. It is just so so sad.. Now they are pimping out MJ's kids knowing good and well Mike didn't want them no where near Oprah or the phony media. It's all a shame

[X_AGNES_X]

http://i51.tinypic.com/bbvx1.jpg




.

unbelievable.
i'm speechless

[Tipareth]

I do not think Oprah would dare to ask those harsh questions to his kids..

But she got lot of liberty through possible voice overs and subtle insiuations. She can conduct the interview in some areas that fit her agenda without being too harsh.... she can be sneaky...

[goldiee]

If all the grandchildren are equal like Janet and the rest of the siblings keep saying, then why aren't they in a private picture with Oprah?
Answer: You already know it.

I just want to cry. The world is messed up. Never thought I'd see the day that Michael would be gone, now this. Good people suffer, bad people get over. There's no hope.

[Big Apple2]

I'm in TOTAL shock over that picture.

I look at the picture and think: "Ms. Winfrey got EXACTLY want she wanted."

Oprah is not interested in hearing what Ms. Katherine has to say about Michael. In my opinion, all Oprah ever wanted was to get her grubby little hands on Michael's children.

I can't believe Ms. Katherine fell for that! I'm just shocked!

I know this story has been bouncing around, but I never in a million years thought that Oprah would have gotten enough access to actually film Michael's children. I'm very disappointed, to say the lease. VERY DISAPPOINTED!

[Justthefacts]

Don't blame Oprah someone let her in someone let her go through Michael's things someone let her sit in the backyard with Michael's kid's. How did we go from Michael would never want his kids on some reailty TV show to letting them be o Oprah?

[Hess]

I don't think I like Oprah very much really.

[LoveMJackson]

Unbelievable! Shame on you, Oprah and mostly shame on the family for letting this happen. If only Michael was still here..I cant believe this

[Big Apple2]

I have a very BAD feeling that this entire thing is going to backfire.

I mean, didn't Taj get negative/nasty tweets when the story regarding the children being on Oprah's program was just a rumor.

I can only imagine the negative/nasty tweets he (and other members of the family) are going to receive once THAT PICTURE makes it's rounds today.

[OnirMJ]

I hate Oprah. She is a real bitch. When she was talking with LMP she was so on her side and when she was talking to Michael in 1993 she didn't believe him anything he was saying. She thinks that she is the Queen of the world and doesn't give a damn about other people feelings.. I am worried that she might ask the children about drugs and about pedophilia.. She has no moral at all, she does anything for the ratings. I hate that bitch.

[ginvid]

Really, can we express our feelings of the situation without resorting to calling the family members/ Oprah all kind of nasty names? We can still understand the anger at the situation without this. Thanks!

[OnirMJ]

Really, can we express our feelings of the situation without resorting to calling the family members/ Oprah all kind of nasty names? We can still understand the anger at the situation without this. Thanks!

I'm sorry but I was very frustrated when I saw that photo. I didn't know that b***h is so nasty. And I really think what I've said..

[LisaU123]

Really, can we express our feelings of the situation without resorting to calling the family members/ Oprah all kind of nasty names? We can still understand the anger at the situation without this. Thanks!

Thank you for reminding everyone. I didn't think that would be allowed anymore. I am on the opposite side as most as I don't see this as a big deal and actually look forward to it. I am guessing it will be a very short segment with the kids and not a big deal.

[ginvid]

I'm sorry but I was very frustrated when I saw that photo. I didn't know that b***h is so nasty. And I really think what I've said..

Yeah, it is considered pretty nasty here. I am not saying don't voice your opinion, (that's why we come here afterall) but just watch how we say things.

Thank you! :)

[helena22]

Mike is rolling in his grave...

"The kids must have wanted to do this themselves. They're not little kids anymore." Don't give me none of that. Seriously, do you think they can see through the media game and stand up for their father without giving in to what Oprah wants from them? They're not too young to handle some simple questions, but they're TOO young to effectively use the media to do whatever they feel they should for their father. You know what I mean?
Of course, Oprah is not that stupid. She would never ask them any sensitive questions. But in her mind, they're just for display to give a boost to the ratings.

[hilliver]

I never wanted to critisise Michael's family on here, and I have kept my opinions to myself but this is the last straw, I think they are disrespecting his memory for financial gain, they know he would never have let anyone from the media near his children in this way, and to let someone like Oprah Winfrey, who wanted him thrown in jail becuase she took the popular media view that he was a pervert preying on children, into the children's lives just disgusts me. It has made me question how much support he ever really had from the family, unless it suited them. He was their meal ticket and they can't even have the decency to respect his wishes.

There, I've done it, let off steam over his family who up till this I have always respected and supported.

[StacyJ]

I never wanted to critisise Michael's family on here, and I have kept my opinions to myself but this is the last straw, I think they are disrespecting his memory for financial gain, they know he would never have let anyone from the media near his children in this way, and to let someone like Oprah Winfrey, who wanted him thrown in jail becuase she took the popular media view that he was a pervert preying on children, into the children's lives just disgusts me. It has made me question how much support he ever really had from the family, unless it suited them. He was their meal ticket and they can't even have the decency to respect his wishes.

There, I've done it, let off steam over his family who up till this I have always respected and supported.

Exactly... I don't think MJ had much support at all from them. That's why I don't believe the 'intervention' story from Janet. She hadn't spoken to Mike in years how the heck was she intervening? Mike was all alone and the family only wanted him to participate in that family concert event. They only wanted Mike for their own financial gain and I think it is getting clearer and clearer. No wonder he didn't leave his siblings or father anything. It has all become so clear.. Instead of appearing on Oprah they need to be down at the medical board trying to strip Murray of his license to practice for killing their son.

[Lucilla]

I'm sorry but I think Katherine is as vulnerable as the kids.

Leeches surrounded MJ while he was alive, and sadly now they surround Katherine and the kids, his principal heirs.

[Alma]

What is wonderful to see is the children being at peace somehow... They have an inner light that exudes on the outside, vivid testimony of Michael watching over them with God. I am going to keep praying for all of them and shake off negativity as much as I can. I trust the children's strength and maturity, even though they're only children... But I'm tired sick of worrying and hurting, so, I'm just going to be at peace for now like these babies seem to be and have continued faith.

[TarinJade]

Deleted. I've decided to reserve judgment until after the show airs.

[CherubimII]

I believe we can make ourselves the Spiritual Guardians of
Michael Jackson's children.
Please say a prayer for the protection of Prince, Paris and Blanket.
I believe our prayers will be answered. :angel:
Please surround them with your Heavenly Angeles.

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[prismsagainst5live]

I really wish someone could tell those kids what Oprah thinks of their dad. Would they have sat down with her then. I think not.

Urghhhh.

[Justthefacts]

Oprah thought Michael was nothing but dirt on her shoe. But she was invited into his home went through his things and sat and talked with his Mother and Father and children. And some see nothing wrong with that

[GinnyJackson]

Oprah may get told off by little B at least i hope he says something to her. And i think these kids know a lot more then what some of us think they do. And Paris is very protective of Michael i dont think she would let oprah get to far with out her speaking her mind.

They are very beautiful children and very bright.
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[magiktori]

how bout everybody here thats angry about this doesnt watch i'm not gonna watch i have only watched oprah a handful of times myself

[prismsagainst5live]

Oprah may get told off by little B at least i hope he says something to her. And i think these kids know a lot more then what some of us think they do. And Paris is very protective of Michael i dont think she would let oprah get to far with out her speaking her mind.

They are very beautiful children and very bright.
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preciselyy. Paris is very protective of Michael. So I'm thinking she isn't aware that Oprah thinks michael is a pedo. Because if I was her and I knew what she has said I would probably have thrown my garden chair at her.

It's like the kids are blundering into a war zone with a blindfold on.

They might be mature and strong and wanted to do this etc but they don't have all the facts.

it's sick.

[Justthefacts]

You people have go to t be kidding you don't really believed Oprah said anything bad about Michael in front of the Jacksons? She was sweet has pie to them. Which makes her nothing more then a coward and makes them nothing more then sellouts

[StephluvsMJ]

I'm really taken back by this. I don't know what to think. I WANT to support Katherine. I know Michael loved his mother, and I want so much to support her. I want to support the family. I can't believe what has happened since Michael's death. I CAN NOT believe what his own mother is doing. Joe, I can understand him doing this. Latoya and some other siblings, I can understand. But Katherine? Katherine?! I am praying the her intention is to defend Michael and nothing more. I am praying that she isn't doing this to promote her book, and I'm praying that she isn't USING Michael's children to help her do it. I am praying.

I can't believe it. I really can't. How in the world did this happen? Michael was one of the most photographed men on the planet, this time 18 months ago, people would have offered huge amounts of money for those children's pictures. Paparazzi tried desperately to get a snapshot of them unmasked... and despite all that, Michael, the most famous man on the planet, with a spotlight on him at all times, was miraculously able to keep those children out of the spotlight. For more than 12 YEARS, he protected them from the media. 12 YEARS. He didn't have to isolate them and lock them up to do it. The masks were genius, and looking back in hindsight, probably one of the better decisions. Now, I'm sure the masks would have come off them at some point, and if you remember before his death, he was kind of easing them out of the masks anyway. And he did say he would show them to the world on stage one day. But, even so, I'm certain that at 13, 12 and 8, these children would not have been giving interviews if Michael was still here. And it just amazes me that a little more than a year after Michael's death, everything Michael worked so hard for has been undone. These kids now have posers, they have fan sites, they have videos dedicated to them, they have fans, they have outsiders hacking into their computers and somehow stealing videos and pictures, they have assistants, bodyguards, paparazzi, pictures in magazines, magnets with their faces on it in stores, they can't go to a karate class or on vacation without being photographed, they have people claiming to be their biological parents, they have their pictures analysed and posted on various sites where they are judged, where people comment on vitiligo and skin colour and resemblance and similarities between them and their father or various people claiming to be the father, they got ex-bodyguards using them to get attention to build martial arts schools and whatnot ... This is the "normal life" the world wanted for them? I just... I can't believe how far this has gotten. I can't believe it and forgive me for ranting, but you know, I've had it. Seriously. And Oprah knows better too. She knows Michael would have not wanted this.

[*Little Suzie*]

I really hate Oprah, she is so fake. I can't believe Katherine said yes to this. I feel very sorry for Michael .. He wouldn't let this happen.. Oh Jesh..

[Justice_MJ]

Poor Michael.
Poor Prince.
Poor Paris.
Poor Blanket.

That's all I can say.

[CherubimII]

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[honeysucklejasmine]

preciselyy. Paris is very protective of Michael. So I'm thinking she isn't aware that Oprah thinks michael is a pedo. Because if I was her and I knew what she has said I would probably have thrown my garden chair at her.

It's like the kids are blundering into a war zone with a blindfold on.

They might be mature and strong and wanted to do this etc but they don't have all the facts.

it's sick.


You people have go to t be kidding you don't really believed Oprah said anything bad about Michael in front of the Jacksons? She was sweet has pie to them. Which makes her nothing more then a coward and makes them nothing more then sellouts

Totally agree. There are no words to describe how heartsick I feel at seeing this mess.

*leaves thread for sake of own sanity*

[Ohood]

What is wonderful to see is the children being at peace somehow... They have an inner light that exudes on the outside, vivid testimony of Michael watching over them with God. I am going to keep praying for all of them and shake off negativity as much as I can. I trust the children's strength and maturity, even though they're only children... But I'm tired sick of worrying and hurting, so, I'm just going to be at peace for now like these babies seem to be and have continued faith.

me too !

[dupsy]

The Jacksons are a family that insisted their 5 year old son (that would be Michael Jackson)
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That's very true,we should expct more of this in the future,they are cool with anything that can generate cash.children be damned.just feel so sad for PPB,cash register 2.0

[blankyluvdoodoo]

I'm really taken back by this. I don't know what to think. I WANT to support Katherine. I know Michael loved his mother, and I want so much to support her. I want to support the family. I can't believe what has happened since Michael's death. I CAN NOT believe what his own mother is doing. Joe, I can understand him doing this. Latoya and some other siblings, I can understand. But Katherine? Katherine?! I am praying the her intention is to defend Michael and nothing more. I am praying that she isn't doing this to promote her book, and I'm praying that she isn't USING Michael's children to help her do it. I am praying.

I can't believe it. I really can't. How in the world did this happen? Michael was one of the most photographed men on the planet, this time 18 months ago, people would have offered huge amounts of money for those children's pictures. Paparazzi tried desperately to get a snapshot of them unmasked... and despite all that, Michael, the most famous man on the planet, with a spotlight on him at all times, was miraculously able to keep those children out of the spotlight. For more than 12 YEARS, he protected them from the media. 12 YEARS. He didn't have to isolate them and lock them up to do it. The masks were genius, and looking back in hindsight, probably one of the better decisions. Now, I'm sure the masks would have come off them at some point, and if you remember before his death, he was kind of easing them out of the masks anyway. And he did say he would show them to the world on stage one day. But, even so, I'm certain that at 13, 12 and 8, these children would not have been giving interviews if Michael was still here. And it just amazes me that a little more than a year after Michael's death, everything Michael worked so hard for has been undone. These kids now have posers, they have fan sites, they have videos dedicated to them, they have fans, they have outsiders hacking into their computers and somehow stealing videos and pictures, they have assistants, bodyguards, paparazzi, pictures in magazines, magnets with their faces on it in stores, they can't go to a karate class or on vacation without being photographed, they have people claiming to be their biological parents, they have their pictures analysed and posted on various sites where they are judged, where people comment on vitiligo and skin colour and resemblance and similarities between them and their father or various people claiming to be the father, they got ex-bodyguards using them to get attention to build martial arts schools and whatnot ... This is the "normal life" the world wanted for them? I just... I can't believe how far this has gotten. I can't believe it and forgive me for ranting, but you know, I've had it. Seriously. And Oprah knows better too. She knows Michael would have not wanted this.

yup u said it all "this is their normal life" smh .
i think i am going to go bonkers *loosing my sanity*

[rockstar]

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[PCR]

Her show is broadcasted in 145+ countries. She and her show are very influential.

I would like to disagree with this statement once again.
The fact that her show is broadcasted in all these countries, doesn't mean at all she IS important in all those places. For instance, her show might be broadcasted in my country but if you go and ask anyone randomly, changes are 9,5 out of 10 people have seen the show once, if any.
So don't get confused by the numbers. REality is much, much more than numbers, but of course, I imagine they always sell the tale this way. But I tell you: it is NOT that way.

[PCR]

Funny you should mention that. I remember when Oprah recently traveled out of the country in order to campagain for the Olympics (I think it was for the Olympics) to come to Chicago and she really thought her being present would matter on a WORLD STAGE. At the time I thought to myself: "Dorothy you ain't in Kanasas anymore." LOL!


The problem is US forget the world is much, much bigger than them. I beg to our US friends in the forum to forgive my comments if they sound any rude to you. I say this in a very nice way, I have friends in the USA, I've been there and I admire them in many ways (I love one sweet US man whose name you might all know :wub:). But for some reason they tend to think if someone is big there, then that means that person/thing/issue is important/big EVERYWHERE becasue besides the US, what else is out there? Well, the rest of the world. It's like the song: "if you can make there, then you can make it anywhere" :D

Certainly, Oprah's name might be "familiar" to many people outside the USA, but to say or to imply her sayings or her actions have any importace or any impact in the rest of the world or in the said "145 countries" where her show is broadcasted.... maaaan!!! That is simply not the case at all!! :doh:

[billyworld99]

do guys really think Mrs. Jackson and mj's kids aware what has been said about over the last years in his life b/c i think in 2003 or 2004 when latoya was on larry King she said her mother stop watching tv b/c of the cheap shots thrown at michael and she couldn't take all the negativly and just stop watching day and prime time televison and michael always had his children tv's monitored

[Big Apple2]

do guys really think Mrs. Jackson and mj's kids aware what has been said about over the last years in his life b/c i think in 2003 or 2004 when latoya was on larry King she said her mother stop watching tv b/c of the cheap shots thrown at michael and she couldn't take all the negativly and just stop watching day and prime time televison and michael always had his children tv's monitored
I don't know about MJ's children, but I would have to say that Ms. Katherine knows full well what Oprah's attitude has been regarding Michael.

The Jackson's are a large family, and even if Ms. Katherine doesn't watch much television, I'm sure one of her children and/or grandchildren have reported to her the things Oprah has said and done when it comes to Michael. And I'm not talking about having someone on her program to talk about Michael, I'm talking about when she interviews folks that have nothing to do with Michael, it seems that she ALWAYS finds a way to bring up Michael's name so that she can rag on him.

Aside from that, Taj recently TWEETED that his family is aware of Oprah's actions. He also thought that the children would not be on the program and said as much via Twitter, but had to come back and amend is previous comments when he found out that the children had in fact spoken to Oprah.

It's just a sad scene all around, in my opinion, and I'm sure before all is said and done, the Jackson family will be FURTHER divided because of this interview.

[MsCassieMollie]

http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2010/news/101115/oprah-320.jpg

The kids look happy! (even with Oprah)

[angelofinnocence]

I'm sorry but I think Katherine is as vulnerable as the kids.

Leeches surrounded MJ while he was alive, and sadly now they surround Katherine and the kids, his principal heirs.

agree. But I am conflicted and will watch it. It is so hard to know what the right thing is as a fan of Michael to do.