Update: Behind the Scenes on Jan 28th 8PM ET OWN Channel / Katherine Jackson May Be 'Oprah' Bound

[Big Apple2]

I wonder why Joe Jackson is the only one with no chair in that picture.

I'm SURE Oprah is the one who set that scene up, was she trying to send Joe Jackson a message or something.

[*Little Suzie*]

CHICAGO — Katherine Jackson will discuss the death of her son, pop superstar Michael Jackson, in an interview with Oprah Winfrey.

Harpo Productions said Monday that Winfrey's interview with Jackson's mother will air Nov. 8 on "The Oprah Winfrey Show." Jackson's father, Joe Jackson, and his three children will also appear during a backyard visit taped for the episode.


Winfrey and Katherine Jackson filmed the interview at the family's home in Encino, Calif. The Chicago-based production company says Katherine Jackson talks about the day her son died and reflects on his life as a childhood star.

Michael Jackson died unexpectedly in June 2009. He gave an interview to Winfrey in 1993 in which he first disclosed suffering from the skin condition vitiligo.

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/399576...entertainment/

[max000]

Oprah knows the world is watching. I am sure she stayed clear of controversial stuff. No way she ambushed the kids.

[StacyJ]

Oprah knows the world is watching. I am sure she stayed clear of controversial stuff. No way she ambushed the kids.

don't be surprised

[~Lindsey~]

I can't say I'm happy to see this photo. I initially thought it was bad enough that Katherine had granted Oprah an interview then when the rumour came out about interviewing the children I was hoping it was untrue so when I heard it was only a rumour that was the case closed but now this photo...In my opinion I very much doubt if Michael would have been comfortable with Oprah speaking to them at this time, however I do understand that his kids want to feel like they are doing something. I just wish these pressures didn't exist around the family, one being Joe.

[Alyssa]

ohhhh *SIGH*

[Big Apple2]

Oprah knows the world is watching. I am sure she stayed clear of controversial stuff. No way she ambushed the kids.

I don't think she would try and ambush the children and if they do make it in front of the camera, I'm thinking that it will be for a short while.

Now Joseph and Katherine Jackson is a whole other ball game. Oprah Winfrey is not in the business of playing nice. Her behind is looking for some dirt and she just might get it with Joseph Jackson in the mix, because Lord knows, interviews are NOT his strong suit.

Will Joe Jackson pull out a picture of Omer Bhatti and swear on a stack of bibles that he IS Michael Jackson's son. LOL! When it comes to Joe Jackson you just never know what to expect, in my opinion.

[Sophielo]

Thanks to everyone first of all for keeping the tone what it should be despite this picture coming up. Can I say I am happy about this, not one bit. Oprah has significantly changed her tune regarding Michael and yes it angers me that the family seem to seemingly think its ok to brush that all under the carpet. It's not. I just hope that one day that she will apologise for it. I just pray that the kids are healthy and happy. It breaks my heart to see all the appearances they are making when Michael did so much to keep them hiddden. Yes they're not young kids any more but I just feel that Michael's wishes are simply not being respected.

[StacyJ]

I don't think she would try and ambush the children and if they do make it in front of the camera, I'm thinking that it will be for a short while.

Now Joseph and Katherine Jackson is a whole other ball game. Oprah Winfrey is not in the business of playing nice. Her behind is looking for some dirt and she just might get it with Joseph Jackson in the mix, because Lord knows, interviews are NOT his strong suit.

Will Joe Jackson pull out a picture of Omer Bhatti and swear on a stack of bibles that he IS Michael Jackson's son. LOL! When it comes to Joe Jackson you just never know what to expect, in my opinion.

Joe is going to say there was foul play involved and AEG is responsible.. We all know what he's going to say

[souldreamer7]

They are grieving kids fro Kryss' sake. They can do it when they are older if that is what they want, MJ did not use his kid for his image, others shouldn't either.

It's TACKY...no matter how you slice it. Exploiting young children...is never appropriate.

Is that a microphone on Paris?

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*Yes. I think so. You can see the same black mic on everyone in the picture but Blanket because his arms are covering that part.

:o

[KaReEnA88]

Seeing this picture it makes you realize that Michael Jackson is indeed dead

[Big Apple2]

Joe is going to say there was foul play involved and AEG is responsible.. We all know what he's going to say
Well if that does happen, he better be ready for Oprah's follow-up questions. She's gonna want to know "who," "when," "why," and "where." Which means Joe Jackson will not be able to MUMBLE his usual response regarding the others and Murray being the fall-guy.

This ain't Larry King where MUMBMLING is the norm. And Leonard Rowe won't be there to fill in the answers for Joe. LOL!

P.S. I don't think Oprah likes Joe and she will be more than happy to make him look like a know-nothing silly old man on her program. Just so she can confirm what everybody already thinks.

[PCR]

This is so wrong!!!!
:no:

and it hurts so bad to see this happening. I never, ever, ever in my life thought I would live to see the day Michael would not be around and I never thought that OW would ever sit in his house, drinking HIS lemonade, using HIS chair and using HIS name once again this way. All that's there belongs to Michael. ALL!!!!

That woman knows no shame.

And MJ's family.... I don't want to be banned, but I must admit I can't but think of all the harsh comments shared in the thread over the days and see.... see what happens now :(

This system shows no mercy. This system is evil.

I have no more words now.

[PCR]

Seeing this picture it makes you realize that Michael Jackson is indeed dead

Gosh.... you are so right on that

:weeping: :weeping: :weeping: :weeping:

[Desired.]

I don't even know what to think.. :no: I want to support Katherine, but she's making it really hard for me to.

[FedoraHatGirl2058]

I want to see how the kids are doing, i dont like Katherine that much now, but the kids are an extention of Michael, so, i would love to see how are they now, i guess they are fine, i mean, Michael must be protecting them from above :)

[loveforever]

seeing all these drama since Michael's death made me so angry, and this is what Michael had to deal with since he was 5 years old :no:.

[marebear]

OMG that picture. I can't help but think what Michael would think of this.

[OnirMJ]

OMG. I knew it... "Oprah Airs Jackson, Molestation Shows Back-to-Back"

http://www.tmz.com/person/michael-jackson/

[Billie Jean 78]

I'm shocked and disgusted, to tell you the truth! Not because of Oprah trying, because it's quite understandable that she would. But for Katherine allowing it! She's the children's guardian and she made a mistake in my eyes.

I knew that PPB eventually would open them selves to the media, probably even make a much publicized interview. But I never thought it would be so soon! And certainly I never dared to think it would be Oprah!

If only they decided to chose someone like Larry King, before he goes in retirement!

[ilmjj]

Some members of his family would like us to think it was Michaels so called drug addiction as the reason he kept his distance from them. All of this proves to me once and for all why Michael stayed away. I just can't believe this is happening...:(

[FedoraHatGirl2058]

OMG. I knew it... "Oprah Airs Jackson, Molestation Shows Back-to-Back"

http://www.tmz.com/person/michael-jackson/
what!!!!!! NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:bugeyed :bugeyed :bugeyed

[FedoraHatGirl2058]

F*ck you oprah!!!!!!!!! stupid witch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[FedoraHatGirl2058]

She can burn in hell! sorry im angry now

[~Lindsey~]

okay, now its time to organize

[bowen9999]

OMG. I knew it... "Oprah Airs Jackson, Molestation Shows Back-to-Back"

http://www.tmz.com/person/michael-jackson/

Didn't really expect anything else but... :no:

[CherubimII]

She can burn in hell! sorry im angry now
Allow me to make your pronoun into a noun (she=Oprah), and
YES, I agree with you. Hell awaits Oprah.


Oprah Airs Jackson, Molestation Shows Back-to-Back <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
46 minutes ago by TMZ Staff
http://www.tmz.com/2010/11/02/oprah-michael-jackson-children-prince-paris-blanket-molestation-episode/
<!--coloro:#8B0000--><!--/coloro-->Oprah Winfrey may not get a Christmas card from Michael Jackson's family this year ...
because she's airing the tell-all interview with MJ's children back-to-back with a special on child molestation. <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

<!--coloro:#000080--><!--/coloro-->Oprah's big interview with MJ's kids -- Prince, Paris, and Blanket -- is scheduled to air next Monday ...
but according to Oprah's website, the talk show host is airing a show the Friday before entitled
"200 Adult Men Who Were Molested Come Forward."

Interestingly ... the Jacksons had beef with Oprah over her programming decisions back in 2005 ...
when she did a show on pedophilia during jury deliberations in Michael Jackson's molestation trial.

So far, no comment from the O camp or the Jackson family.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

[marebear]

It's so hard to see his children sitting there with her having lemonade and chit chatting.

[athina_livadi]

Children should stay away...

[~Lindsey~]

There must be an organized message the fans can send out to show their disgust over this instead of letting it just happen, do the family know the tv scheduling of this, perhaps ask on twitter to younger members of the family-Taj perhaps

[elusive moonwalker]

im sorry michael.so glad you cant see this

[prismsagainst5live]

OMG. I knew it... "Oprah Airs Jackson, Molestation Shows Back-to-Back"

http://www.tmz.com/person/michael-jackson/

how many people will miss the comma in that sentence do you think.

[Black Orchid]

Seeing this picture it makes you realize that Michael Jackson is indeed dead

Omg, this is so true. After reading that sentence I had tears in my eyes...

[~Lindsey~]

how many people will miss the comma in that sentence do you think.
I for one did, now if I read it like that there's no hope

[CherubimII]

Question: Are the Jacksons stupid; or
do they just play stupid on T.V.?

[susieb88]

Simply defies belief ...... Oh Michael :(

[CherubimII]

There must be an organized message the fans can send out to show their disgust over this instead of letting it just happen, do the family know the tv scheduling of this, perhaps ask on twitter to younger members of the family-Taj perhaps
Your ideas are excellent. :punk:
Who can help us?

[Big Apple2]

Question: Are the Jacksons stupid; or
do they just play stupid on T.V.?

I don't want to call anybody "stupid," but I will say that SOME members of the Jackson family may turn a BLIND-EYE to what's going on when money is involved.

I truly believe this entire interview is about SELLING Katherine Jackson's book.

I mean, her and Joe Jackson need to fund their Jackson Family Foundation (LOL) and this may be one of the ways they "think" they can do it.

[~Lindsey~]

well I've tweeted Taj, I have never had a tweet back before so I don't know how likely it is to get any response relating to this. I would have hoped that the family would be the people we turned to

[elusive moonwalker]

the family are using the children just like they used mj. groundhog day. they ignored all his wishes and do what they like cause all they see is $ god help those kids cause they will end up brainwashed and used just like their dad.the only ppl that can defend his legacy will lose everything he taught them and in the worst senario believe what those with agendas in that family want them to believe about their dad.

[mj_brainiac]

Let's just see how it turns out...

[elusive moonwalker]

how it turns out is irrelvent. the family shuldnt be talking to her and the children certainly shouldnt be. its bad enough she is in his house. what next an invitation to F.L to dance on his grave.

[CherubimII]

I don't want to call anybody "stupid," but I will say that SOME members of the Jackson family may turn a BLIND-EYE to what's going on when money is involved.

I truly believe this entire interview is about SELLING Katherine Jackson's book.

I mean, her and Joe Jackson need to fund their Jackson Family Foundation (LOL) and this may be one of the ways they "think" they can do it.
You make an excellent analysis.
I will continue to pray that God protects Michael's children.:angel:

[CherubimII]

well I've tweeted Taj, I have never had a tweet back before so I don't know how likely it is to get any response relating to this. I would have hoped that the family would be the people we turned to
Thank you.
God Bless You. http://angelwinks.net/images/angel3r.gif

[ilmjj]

I know it is not exactly the same but can you imagine Jackie Kennedy sitting down for some interview with a young Caroline and John? Did they ever?
I hear a lot of people asking how do we know what Michael would want and maybe he would be fine with this. But for me Michaels actions regarding his
children all of their lives seem to suggest to me that he wouldn't want this.
But I am just a nobody fan who still cries everyday...

[Unb]

I just can't believe what's going here. I can't get Jacksons' side anymore.

I'm so sorry for Michael, it's hard but it's better that Michael can't see all that shit.

[Ashtanga]

OMG. I knew it... "Oprah Airs Jackson, Molestation Shows Back-to-Back"

http://www.tmz.com/person/michael-jackson/



I believe we can make ourselves the Spiritual Guardians of
Michael Jackson's children.
Please say a prayer for the protection of Prince, Paris and Blanket.
I believe our prayers will be answered. :angel:
Please surround them with your Heavenly Angeles.

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WHAT?????????? :wtf:

:no:


I'm shocked. :bugeyed I do not believe.... Oh God... :doh: I'm sure Michael would never let his children talk to Oprah (:puke:). :( I do not know what to say. I do not know what to think. Just sad and disappointing.... *big sigh*


Many prayers to PPB... :pray: :angel:

[elusive moonwalker]

hear a lot of people asking how do we know what Michael would want and maybe he would be fine with this. But for me Michaels actions regarding his
children all of their lives seem to suggest to me that he wouldn't want this.exactly. it goes against everything mj has done in raising his kids and trying to protect them from the media. what next invite bashir round for dinner. cause you couldnt get much worse than having that woman come around. anything for $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

[Lucilla]

Nothing new.

Remember this?


MON 10/18: "Exclusive: The 16-Year-Old Boy Who Killed His Molester"
WED 10/20: "First TV Interview - Tyler Perry Speaks Out About Being Molested"
THU 10/21: "Lisa Marie Presley Speaks Out About The Death Of Michael Jackson"

AND NOW THIS?


FRI 11/5: "200 Adult Men Who Were Molested Come Forward."
"COINCIDENCE" my a**s
Oprah will never change.


Still, I say Katherine and the Kids are a whole.
And They're victims here.

[elusive moonwalker]

till, I say Katherine and the Kids are a whole. And They're victims here.
u know i try to give katherine the benifit of the doubt but how many more times is she gonna get a pass. taj stated the family knew how mj felt about oprah and certainly knew how he felt about protecting his kids. as apple said this show was about selling her book and shes allowed the kids to be used to garner more attention for that. nothings changed since mj was a kid and allowed joe to beat the crap out of them.now his kids are being used as the cash cow

[Tipareth]

the family are using the children just like they used mj. groundhog day. they ignored all his wishes and do what they like cause all they see is $ god help those kids cause they will end up brainwashed and used just like their dad.the only ppl that can defend his legacy will lose everything he taught them and in the worst senario believe what those with agendas in that family want them to believe about their dad.


This is my fear too... :no:

However I hope that they will be strong enough to find out the truth when they grow up. Tv Shows of Oprah and many others about their father named weirdo, pedo etc, those are there as proofs of hypocrisy and lies.

The kids will eventually found out that some friends of Jacksons were in fact enemies of their own father. They will be astonished then eventually begin to question other things, including the addiction myth....

So I end up this saying "Father forgive them, because they do not know what they are doing", as Jesus once said. At human level maybe they know, but deep spiritual level, they know nothing about....

[Lucilla]

u know i try to give katherine the benifit of the doubt but how many more times is she gonna get a pass. taj stated the family knew how mj felt about oprah and certainly knew how he felt about protecting his kids. as apple said this show was about selling her book and shes allowed the kids to be used to garner more attention for that. nothings changed since mj was a kid and allowed joe to beat the crap out of them.now his kids are being used as the cash cow

I repeat. I think Katherine is as vulnerable as the kids.
I really do.

[Tipareth]

I know it is not exactly the same but can you imagine Jackie Kennedy sitting down for some interview with a young Caroline and John? Did they ever?
I hear a lot of people asking how do we know what Michael would want and maybe he would be fine with this. But for me Michaels actions regarding his
children all of their lives seem to suggest to me that he wouldn't want this.
But I am just a nobody fan who still cries everyday...

Yeah this is how I feel too... Poor nobody crying everyday....

[TheChosenOne]

I could be wrong but I believe that Ms Winfrey's mind has been made up about Michael for YEARS. She is good friends with Quincy Jones and others who would have no doubt influenced her opinion on him.

It says alot about the entertainment industry when a talk show host can be personally repulsed by someone but still be keen to talk to his mother, father and children.

This interview is solely about grabbing those ratings and ending her show on unforgettable high! Long and short.

Was the 1993 interview her highest rating?

[StaceyMJ]

I find that photo highly upsetting. It's like a sick joke/mock-up. It symbolises everything to me, just everything about this awful situation we're in. I am absolutely in shock.

[Ashtanga]

I repeat. I think Katherine is as vulnerable as the kids.
I really do.

Yes... :( and still have Joe around. :fear:

Very sad... :(

[elusive moonwalker]

Yeah this is how I feel too... Poor nobody crying everyday....yeah agree. and some of them had the cheek to say. you are fans but we are his family. mj knew. who did he spend more time around.


Was the 1993 interview her highest rating? no doubt


I find that photo highly upsetting. It's like a sick joke/mock-up. It symbolises everything to me, just everything about this awful situation we're in. I am absolutely in shock. yeah same here. its like they are dancing and spitting on his grave all in one go.with a smirking joe with $$$ in his eyes as he looks at blanket and thinks he reminds me of someone

[Autumn II]

The children could not possibly know the entire context of how badly Oprah tried to damage their father. Just imagine how they will feel as adults, looking back at how they were used/abused by appearing on this show? How will they feel as adults, knowing that in that week, "their" show was in juxtaposition with one (or more?) about molestation?

How will they FEEL about this, once they are old enough to understand? This is just incredibly sad. . ..

[raz2911]

what is Katherine doing putting the kids on oprah !! Michael would not be happy, how are they ment to have a normal childhood when they're never out of the public eye?

[Sophielo]

I feel Katherine is pulled a lot of ways by other people, I feel that she is the victim here. If five years ago and someone said to me 'do you think the kids will be appearing on Oprah in five years' I would have immediatly said no way in hell would Michael allow that. Maybe in another five when Prince is 18. But what all she's done and the convinient programming schedules leaves a very bad taste in my mouth. The family knew how much she hurt Michael and they are allowing his children to do interviews with her? Its just wrong.

[elusive moonwalker]

The children could not possibly know the entire context of how badly Oprah tried to damage their father. Just imagine how they will feel as adults, looking back at how they were used/abused by appearing on this show? How will they feel as adults, knowing that in that week, "their" show was in juxtaposition with one (or more?) about molestation?

How will they FEEL about this, once they are old enough to understand? This is just incredibly sad. . ..

agree. what will it make them think about their own family. well that may not be a bad thing. i wish they knew now so they could turn and ask why are you talking to that woman after what she did to daddy.the stage is being set for them to walk away from that family just like mj did. but i hope by the time they are old enough to it wont be to late

[CherubimII]

Oprah Winfrey may mean this interview for exploitation purposes,
but Michael's children are his Glow here on Earth;
and they are Stronger than Oprah.

We fans, as the Spiritual Guardians of Michael's children, must pray
and send out our positive energies to make this interview POSITIVE. :angel:

http://angelwinks.net/images/angel3l.gifThis Interview WILL BE FOR GOOD!!!!!http://angelwinks.net/images/angel3r.gif

[rockstar]

please peoples there no need to hate on peoples :no: in this world ever one is different in there minds of speak.

[Ashtanga]

The children could not possibly know the entire context of how badly Oprah tried to damage their father. Just imagine how they will feel as adults, looking back at how they were used/abused by appearing on this show? How will they feel as adults, knowing that in that week, "their" show was in juxtaposition with one (or more?) about molestation?

How will they FEEL about this, once they are old enough to understand? This is just incredibly sad. . ..

Yes, this is what will happen. :(

Well, I feel so sad about it. It's still unbelievable that this happened. It is difficult to digest. I just can not understand. :no:

The good thing is that looking at the picture, is as visible as they are getting beautiful over time. :heart: May God bless them... always.... :angel:

Well, let's see how it goes this "interview". :( :puke: *big sigh*



Oh Michael, I'm sorry this has happened. :cry:

[loveforever]

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:no::no::no::doh: This family should be shamed of themselves. Everything for Money! Since the day they asked his children sign those belts to milk his fans, they lost all respect from me. Michael Jackson was just the cash cow in their eyes, never changed.

[TSCM]

I do not follow a lot of MJ news anymore, let alone participate in discussions... It's frankly too painful and destructive to my current health.

But, my heart sank to a new low when I learned that Katherine Jackson had gotten herself tangled up in the scams of Henry Vaccaro and affiliates (Howard Mann)--including the entire "Michael Jackson Secret Vault" premise which is exactly what MJ successfully fought to have shut down in court back in 2003-2004 and again in 2006-2007.

Oprah seems determined to make the world believe that Michael was a hardcore drug addict and that it was this massive, decades-long drug intake that caused his death--of course she won't reiterate the findings from the official autopsy/coroner report but instead seems to find willing participants to at least nod their head in agreement to her lead-in questions about drugs etc. I was unable to sit through the entire LMP interview with Oprah for this very reason.

After all this time, I am devastated to see that Michael's family and close associates remain as oblivious as ever with regards to the detractors and vultures from Michael's life, and the ulterior motives they hold. I became physically ill when I witnessed Frank Dileo and other close associates mingling with and posing for photos with Ian Halperin at Michael's memorial just days after Ian made some of the most outlandish and sickening claims against Michael. The sick feeling grew as people like Corey Feldman were invited by the family to the private funeral. And then there's Joe who happens to hire Bryan Oxman as an attorney. Still, even after all these months nothing has changed as far as the family's insight into who they should or should not associate with for the good of Michael's image and for the beliefs that he worked so hard to abide by when he was here. Either that, or they simply put money above all else. I am gutted.....

[elusive moonwalker]

nice to see u TSCM and well said

[Alma]

What an obsession Oprah has with child molesters. To think she even interviewed some of them before, asking for really really graphic details... simply sordid, that belies human comprehension. It was just a remark I had to make.. And I find it so appaling and tragic, that depression cannot simply not come up often... I mean, to hear some people say how can one be depressed ocver things they can't control anyway. As though we're made of stone and should only care about ourselves. Seeing how so many.. I should say American people got molested as children, how many famous people, too... Thinking how so many lives got destroyed because of such horrible, devilish actions... Oprah definitely has got an anger in her when it comes to all child molestors and alleged child molestors, be they innocent. This horrible thing may have turned her into the flawed person she is today, as well as other people, that, who knows, could have had all the chances to grow differently, and not hurt other innocent people in turn, as a means of revenge, perhaps..

Sorry for being this philosophical... Such topics burn me.. and Michael, one of this world's few wonder innocents, had to be labeled with the most horrifying opposing label ever... How truly destroyed he must have been, that most tender innocent, what an insurmountable pain must have dwelled in him... To be hurt and accused of the worst things against those he loved the most in this world - the children...

*leaves thread*

[angelofinnocence]

my mum has just looked at the pic of PPB and exclaimed Prince looks just like Michael.
So I suppose some people's minds might be changed by this programme in a positive way.
(btw my mum is not a hater, but not a fan either)

[Moonwalker.Fan]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/Nooj/9u3rlh.gif

Somebody should ask Taj, or Latoya on Twitter, if the family has been aware of Oprahs history of calling MJ a peado or indicating such a thing....

They should watch TV before agreeing with an interview...

[Irish Flower]

I thought the same thing about Prince, he always reminds me of his Dad

[CherubimII]

If Oprah tries to damage Prince, or Paris, or Blanket, in some way,
I know this time the "Backfire" is going to be on Oprah Winfrey herself. :yes:

[Miss_Dangerous]

Just found out about Oprah interviewing Michael's kids. I feel sickened by it! Michael tried so, so hard to protect them from the media; and now, here they are, in front of all the cameras being interviewed by none other than Oprah Winfrey!! If only they knew what she has said and implied about their Father in the past.

These children have lost their Father. Do the decent thing Oprah and leave them alone and stop using them for ratings/money/personal gain. Its sick.

[ivy]

Each morning right after I wake up and while preparing for the school/work day ahead, I half sleepy visit MJJC to see the latest news.

This morning I saw this picture and to tell you the truth my heart broke in pieces and I cried thinking why Michael had to die and why his children were in this position.

I too think that Oprah's mind about Michael is already made up and not in a good way as we all already know. I also do not think that the children really knows what Oprah thinks and did and said in regards to their father. I do not think that Oprah will be negative towards the children or ask them any serious/hard/emotional questions but on the other hand I for some reason expect to see a blatant use of the children for ratings.

I have a strong belief that Michael wouldn't like his kids to be shown/interviewed in any TV program, and this is even more true for Oprah. I also do not buy "if the kids wanted to do it , it's okay" logic. If that made sense every child in the world would be playing computer games rather than studying and eating desert rather than vegetables.

Anyway I'm highly upset because of this picture. It's sad, so sad.

[CherubimII]

Have you ever noticed that when you see Prince sitting next to
his grandmother, Katherine, it is like he is trying to take care of her
and his brother and sister, instead, of the other way around?

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[Darling Dear]

I can't wrap my head around this situation. How is it possible that the family doesn't know about Oprah and her opinions about Michael? This woman is highly influential in the US. There is no way they are not aware about her past history. All those years he cared for them, out of the spotlight...wanting to have normal lives, all those years have been quickly wiped out.

I don't want to feel like ALL the work Michael did was in vain. (As in protecting them and hiding their faces.) But that's how I feel... :'(

These kids are most likely the most famous children in the whole world. Everyone "wants a piece" from them. All those years...ALL those years he hid them. All worthless. Now they're in interviews. What's next. *sobs out of the thread*

[Kingofpop4ever3000]

Honestly, I think this is so disgusting. The actions by alot of people in Michael's world this past year have made it seem as if losing Michael wasn't terrible enough. The pain his fans feel gets compounded again and again and again. And I don't trust Oprah at all. I am still reeling from how the LMP interview made Michael look when all was said and done. This will be just more of the same, only worse. I really think so. If I'm wrong, and I seriously hope I am, I wil gladly take it all back and eat my humble pie in one gulp. But I have not seen or heard anything thus far that tells me that I should have faith in anybody. Let alone Oprah. Like I said in the LMP thread, I seriously hate it that almost if not every interview always seems to end up in some way making a mockery of his memory. This one is no exception for me. I had this very same feeling before the LMP interview and I'm still wishing that I had been wrong. I hate to be negative. But with everything that's happened, I see no reason to believe anything different at this time.

[PCR]

Words fail me to describe my feelings. Just as Ivy, I try to take a took at the forum early morning, to know what's on. I have been following all this OW-Kath talking, twitters, comments, fights, hoping for the best, but knowing the worst will come. And here we are now. Totally powerless, puzzled, but most of all, hurt.

I have cried for Michael today again. Out of nothing, just while walking down the street. Any street. Then back home. Why is all this happening? I know there's no good answer, but as some of you have said, and I hate to say it, the only good side of this is the fact he is not here to see this.

But even that is terrible and horrible to say. Michael should be here with us. Wait, not with us, WITH HIS KIDS!!! Protecting them, sharing his all with them. Instead, they are in the hands of people who keep showing they are doing exactly the opposite to what Michael did all his life.

How can this be?
How is to go on?

Everytime I think the worst has come, then soon comes something even worst and lower.

This is soooo harddddddddd!!!!!! :weeping:

[Thetruthbetold]

A early Christmas gift to Orpah and crew
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[elusive moonwalker]

I can't wrap my head around this situation. How is it possible that the family doesn't know about Oprah and her opinions about Michael? This woman is highly influential in the US. There is no way they are not aware about her past history. All those years he cared for them, out of the spotlight...wanting to have normal lives, all those years have been quickly wiped out.

I don't want to feel like ALL the work Michael did was in vain. (As in protecting them and hiding their faces.) But that's how I feel... :'(

These kids are most likely the most famous children in the whole world. Everyone "wants a piece" from them. All those years...ALL those years he hid them. All worthless. Now they're in interviews. What's next. *sobs out of the thread*

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. what other reason is it with that family. they hated the way mj raised them and protected them and are now showing him we are in charge from now on. for what other reason would they disrespect his wishes over something he felt so strongly about. while his fans mourn and are caused even more pain by those who claim to love him selling him out at every oppotunity they then invite that woman into his house and let her around his children. that is the ulimate betrayal and no excuse will change the way members of that family have acted since 09. all it does is confirm why mj stayed away from them. but now his kids are the cash cows and will be stuck there until they are old enough to leave.but by that time they maybe brainwashed into the families way of thinking. and spend their lives being the cash cow of that family like their dad was.no doubt reminded that u owe us just like mj was

[GameGirlAdvance]

No! Why?!

Michael did his best to keep his children away from the media! He tried to protect them from the medias cruelty! and now? Now that he's dead, his kids are praxtically thrown in front of the cameras! This is an insult to him! His own family has dishonoured him by going against his wishes!

Why is it...That the only ones he seem to understand him better...are us? The fans? We know this is wrong! Why can't his own parents see that?!

[GinnyJackson]

hehehe. lets all take a deep breath and chillax alittle ko? i mean really we all know the woman is full of hot air thats why her weight keeps going up and down. We all know shes full of not only herself but shit aswell. Lets all relax we all know the truth and all to soon so will his children if they dont already.

I know we all know what michael thought and we sure as hell know what the overly obsessed with Mj Oprah says. She thinks she is god incarnate but she will soon find out she is not. All the words oprah spews are not coated in solid gold and i for one will not bow at oprahs feet and wait for the gold to fall or hang on her every word. She is worthless to me she has no valid points or opinions. So in closing her show,her opinions means, to put it simply, jack shit to me. Sorry for the language but the truth is full of it.
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[elusive moonwalker]

Words fail me to describe my feelings. Just as Ivy, I try to take a took at the forum early morning, to know what's on. I have been following all this OW-Kath talking, twitters, comments, fights, hoping for the best, but knowing the worst will come. And here we are now. Totally powerless, puzzled, but most of all, hurt.

I have cried for Michael today again. Out of nothing, just while walking down the street. Any street. Then back home. Why is all this happening? I know there's no good answer, but as some of you have said, and I hate to say it, the only good side of this is the fact he is not here to see this.

But even that is terrible and horrible to say. Michael should be here with us. Wait, not with us, WITH HIS KIDS!!! Protecting them, sharing his all with them. Instead, they are in the hands of people who keep showing they are doing exactly the opposite to what Michael did all his life.

How can this be?
How is to go on?

Everytime I think the worst has come, then soon comes something even worst and lower.

This is soooo harddddddddd!!!!!! :weeping:

well said. just when u think it cant get any worse it does. and i know it will when it airs.if only those that truely loved mj could protect his kids from this mess.

[suzynyc]

You know, when all is said and done, it's the guardian/family members of these children who made the decision to have them appear on the show (and the previous appearances). Without consent from them it wouldn't happen. Oprah is not the guardian of these children.

Not that I'm blaming Katherine. Maybe I'm wrong but I believe she is being manipulated. Or maybe she truly believes this interview and having the children involved in it will be for the best for her son's legacy in the end. That it will be positive. I hope so. We'll see.

[MsCassieMollie]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/Nooj/9u3rlh.gif

Somebody should ask Taj, or Latoya on Twitter, if the family has been aware of Oprahs history of calling MJ a peado or indicating such a thing....

They should watch TV before agreeing with an interview...

Taj was very aware of Oprah's disrespect towards Michael.

[MsCassieMollie]

People on here should be aware that Oprah's interview would be MAINLY with Mama Kat. she had a backyard visit with the kids and Joe so the kids will be on screen for a couple of minutes.

[elusive moonwalker]

and that makes a difference?

[MsCassieMollie]

Also I wonder why none of the the family is saying anything about this on Twitter? I'm waiting for Taj to say something.

[elusive moonwalker]

taj talked about it when it first came out. they are well aware of reactions.

[AllForLove]

*Yes. I think so. You can see the same black mic on everyone in the picture but Blanket because his arms are covering that part.

:o

I don't see any mic on Joe's suit (and he also has no chair - Looks like he saw some light and so he entered)

[PCR]

People on here should be aware that Oprah's interview would be MAINLY with Mama Kat. she had a backyard visit with the kids and Joe so the kids will be on screen for a couple of minutes.

Sorry... have you seen the show already? :scratch:
and even then... does THAT make any difference? The fact the picture is making the rounds everywhere just shows the whole idea of she getting her hand on the kids: promotion and getting attention.

Is not Katherine who is attractive now. It's the kids. And by getting Katherine, she knew she would get to the kids.

And see!!! She got it :doh: So this basically shows she can do whatever :puke:

[ExoticPrincess]

By words and actions, Michael made his feelings very clear as it relates to his childrens privacy away from the media and public. This interview could paint MJ in the greatest of lights, but bottomline, Michael Jackson would NOT like this AT ALL!!!!

If Janet or Jackie or anybody else in that family wanna cosy up to Oprah, (while knowing what she thinks of their family member)......thats their decision, but to have the children be apart of this is just wrong.

I'm sorry to say this Michael, but you're gone now, what you want is obviously IRRELEVANT to some people.

BTW....just watch how she promotes this interview! This photo already tells you as much! It just bugs me to hell this woman is getting exactly what she wants yet again!

[souldreamer7]

Someone should ask Taj or Latoya if they're aware of Oprah's view point on Michael on her shows during the past..

:agree: For Sure!

[rsw22]

The problem with this interview is that it will open the floodgates, Katherine will be under great pressure to include the kids in more interviews.

Michael was able to resist that level of pressure because he knew the media too well. But with insiders like Joe wanting to make cash and being bribed heavily if he can manipulate Katherine, then life will be hard for her.

Anyone in the media knows that line Joe with bucks and he will do your bidding. Promise him $700,000 if he organises the deal and it comes through and he will stop at nothing.

Afterall, for such a show, the company makes multi-million dollars.

I wish MJ had included in his will that his kids should not be subjected to interviews/media till they were of age, but he didn't see it coming.

And Oprah's program scheduling is in jest i suppose after Randy called her out. She's using innuendo. If Oprah cared anything about MJ, she would have had Mesereau.

But her innuendo through programming is aimed at influencing her viewers after seeing the MJ show and is no coincidence by her or her staff.

Let's just pray for Katherine. MJ will have a good legacy, she shouldn't push it. Those who like him do, those who don't will not. There is no need to be hurt by letting in people she knows do not like him.
She would have faired better with an Ebony magazine feature. Atleast that would be on magazine shelves worldwide for a month and they treated MJ well, rather than a show like Oprah who treated MJ badly and carries on to display that jest after gaining access to MJ's kids.

This interview doesn't serve any real benefit other than to intrude into teh kids' personal lives.

The silver lining is that no matter what Oprah does in jest, MJ was a top earner last year.

Randy was right that Oprah should never have been let anywhere near MJ's kids.

[PCR]

By words and actions, Michael made his feelings very clear as it relates to his childrens privacy away from the media and public. This interview could paint MJ in the greatest of lights, but bottomline, Michael Jackson would NOT like this AT ALL!!!!


that's the truth.

again: let's NOT fall in the trap of media, in their false promise of "come with me, give me your story and the people will know how good you are". They surely love Machiavelli's saying and will make the rounds now with "the end justifies the means".

They did that to Michael over and over again. Do we need any more? It's the media's way. But their ways are feed by those close to Michael himself.

No matter how good this thing might be, the buttomline is WRONG.

[gerryevans]

People on here should be aware that Oprah's interview would be MAINLY with Mama Kat. she had a backyard visit with the kids and Joe so the kids will be on screen for a couple of minutes.

That may be true, but it doesn't change the fact that Oprah is full of s***!

She couldn't even publicly acknowledge their father's death when he first passed. She was at least being honest then. She didn't want any parts of Michael. He was guilty in her eyes, and not worthy of her attention. But now, it's like Jacksonville at Oprahville. I hope this interview is FINALLY the last of her hypocrisy.

[PCR]

well said. just when u think it cant get any worse it does. and i know it will when it airs.if only those that truely loved mj could protect his kids from this mess.

yes.
this just makes me fear what's the next step in the way down.
DD, maybe?

:bugeyed

ok, i'll stop it. I don't want to give them any ideas.

[Moonwalker.Fan]

Taj was very aware of Oprah's disrespect towards Michael.


taj talked about it when it first came out. they are well aware of reactions.

Sooo???
Despite of that, knowing the Oprahs past... they did the interview (oh, I am sure that the kids dont know aynthing about that, I wonder what they will say when they will be .... adult...)... :doh:
:censored::bs::nopersonalattacks: :help: :voodoo_doll:

[souldreamer7]

I don't see any mic on Joe's suit (and he also has no chair - Looks like he saw some light and so he entered)

Yeah I couldn't make out a mic on Joe either - I though perhaps it was because the darkness of his suit that it didn't show up?? But I was just replying to the OP's question about if there being mics on everyone. It seems that everyone is wearing one. I guess we'll find out how much of the children will be 'edited' in when the show airs. :(

[MJJ:G.O.A.T]

I do not follow a lot of MJ news anymore, let alone participate in discussions... It's frankly too painful and destructive to my current health.

But, my heart sank to a new low when I learned that Katherine Jackson had gotten herself tangled up in the scams of Henry Vaccaro and affiliates (Howard Mann)--including the entire "Michael Jackson Secret Vault" premise which is exactly what MJ successfully fought to have shut down in court back in 2003-2004 and again in 2006-2007.

Oprah seems determined to make the world believe that Michael was a hardcore drug addict and that it was this massive, decades-long drug intake that caused his death--of course she won't reiterate the findings from the official autopsy/coroner report but instead seems to find willing participants to at least nod their head in agreement to her lead-in questions about drugs etc. I was unable to sit through the entire LMP interview with Oprah for this very reason.

After all this time, I am devastated to see that Michael's family and close associates remain as oblivious as ever with regards to the detractors and vultures from Michael's life, and the ulterior motives they hold. I became physically ill when I witnessed Frank Dileo and other close associates mingling with and posing for photos with Ian Halperin at Michael's memorial just days after Ian made some of the most outlandish and sickening claims against Michael. The sick feeling grew as people like Corey Feldman were invited by the family to the private funeral. And then there's Joe who happens to hire Bryan Oxman as an attorney. Still, even after all these months nothing has changed as far as the family's insight into who they should or should not associate with for the good of Michael's image and for the beliefs that he worked so hard to abide by when he was here. Either that, or they simply put money above all else. I am gutted.....

This. :clapping:


The children could not possibly know the entire context of how badly Oprah tried to damage their father. Just imagine how they will feel as adults, looking back at how they were used/abused by appearing on this show? How will they feel as adults, knowing that in that week, "their" show was in juxtaposition with one (or more?) about molestation?

How will they FEEL about this, once they are old enough to understand? This is just incredibly sad. . ..

:sigh: :no: It is very sad.


People on here should be aware that Oprah's interview would be MAINLY with Mama Kat. she had a backyard visit with the kids and Joe so the kids will be on screen for a couple of minutes.

:mello:

If they are only going to be seen on screen for a few minutes or only talk for a short while, it doesn't make it any better. The kids have mics on. They are being used. Autumn II has it right. Even worse is Oprah's scheduling. She's doing this on purpose - she did it with LMP's interview and she's doing it again. She's pushing the same message - Michael is a pedophile and a hardcore drug addict.

[MsCassieMollie]

Sorry... have you seen the show already? :scratch:
and even then... does THAT make any difference? The fact the picture is making the rounds everywhere just shows the whole idea of she getting her hand on the kids: promotion and getting attention.

Is not Katherine who is attractive now. It's the kids. And by getting Katherine, she knew she would get to the kids.

And see!!! She got it :doh: So this basically shows she can do whatever :puke:

Come to think if it, you're right...

[Ashtanga]

Also I wonder why none of the the family is saying anything about this on Twitter? I'm waiting for Taj to say something.

Yeah.... BUT I doubt they'll talk about it. Well, the shit is already done. :(

[8701girl]

Guys serriously even though it sickens me that oprah his once again trying to make mj out to be a child molester, even haters are gonna start getting annoyed with her obessesion with mj soon.

[Memefan]

We are organizing....Stay tuned!!!

We will raise our voices as one...for Michael and his beloved children.

[aliana101]

I want to rant but I'm starting to feel really hopeless about all this! :(
She got what she wanted and the family thinks they did the right thing. What does it matter what I, the useless fan thinks.

[Cinnamon234]

Eventhough I don't like Oprah's agenda here when it comes to Michael (i.e. airing back to back shows about molestation around the same time she's doing a story about MJ), I am looking forward to seeing Katherine on the show. Maybe she will shed some positive light on what her son was all about instead of the usual negative BS we hear about.

But I cannot support Katherine or the Jackson family allowing MJ's kids to be interviewed. What were they thinking? Michael would not have liked this at all.

[Ashtanga]

We are organizing....Stay tuned!!!

We will raise our voices as one...for Michael and his beloved children.

Really? Let us know when possible.......

[riviera1992]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/Nooj/9u3rlh.gif

Somebody should ask Taj, or Latoya on Twitter, if the family has been aware of Oprahs history of calling MJ a peado or indicating such a thing....

They should watch TV before agreeing with an interview...

OMG! Did this really happened?:bugeyed

She didn't throw it hard enough.

And this from Harpo rep about molestation show just before the Jackson show:

"A rep for Oprah's production company tells TMZ, "There is no connection whatsoever between the two shows. This is purely coincidental."

They really think we're stupid, do they?

IMO, the kids have no idea whatsoever of all the immense pain the medialoids did to their daddy. Michael sheltered them 24/7 and they watched very little TV. And Michael always made sure he turned magazines and newspapers around when he was on the cover.

Like I said in some other post, TAJ REALLY needs to have a private chat with the kids because these children live in a protected environment surrounded by who knows who.

This photo makes me sad. It looks like they've moved on quicker than some of us that loved Michael for a lot more years than his kids.

So depressing.

And Janet on Lopez on Nov 8th also. Let me guess?? Yep. Talking about Michael again.

Here's the ongoing Open letter to Oprah about this interview. If you haven't posted your comment yet, please do so. Thanks.
http://www.oprah.com/community/thread/146120

[marebear]

Even if they show the kids 10 seconds it's the image of that picture and all it represents feels so wrong. It really is sad and hits home that Michael isn't here anymore. I feel bad for them when they realize what Oprah did to their father and then this.

I don't understand anyone in the family talking and laughing with someone who thinks your brother hurt children. I don't understand how you can turn a blind eye to that. I couldn't do it.

[prettygirlmj]

These are higher resolutions of the pictures. You can see the microphone on the kids shirts better.

The second one is of Oprah and Katherine holding hands.

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/5131/article00bde878a000005d.jpg
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/5139/article00bde876f000005d.jpg

[TheChosenOne]

Remember that during the 2005 trial it was said that when Michael first heard about the fall out with the Bashir interview, the first thing he asked was about his children. To me that is a clear indication that Michael put his children's welfare first. Certainly before protecting his legacy and improving his public image.

[prettygirlmj]

I think about those 3 kids at least twice a day. I hope after all this, they come out fine. Because with grandparents like these, honestly....

Those kids should go to Diana Ross like Michael wanted. It's obvious Katherine is not fit to be their guardian. And Joe looming over them...didn't Debbie Rowe said he was not to be near her kids?

And why is the estate not stoppig this?

[MJ Crazy]

The children are beautiful, but it breaks my heart to see them with Oprah. Michael worked so hard to protect them from this.

[goldiee]

Seeing this picture it makes you realize that Michael Jackson is indeed dead

Yep. For all the hoax believers, I hate it for them but if he was somewhere hoaxing, this would definitely bring him back.

This is unbelievable. Sometimes I feel like I'm in the twilight zone.

[ivy]

And why is the estate not stoppig this?

simply because they can't. they aren't the guardians and they don't have the custody. they cannot determine who the children meets, talks, interviews.

[8701girl]

OMG! Did this really happened?:bugeyed

She didn't throw it hard enough.

And this from Harpo rep about molestation show just before the Jackson show:

"A rep for Oprah's production company tells TMZ, "There is no connection whatsoever between the two shows. This is purely coincidental."


Not coincidental??? :rolleyes: my butt! PFFTT!!


And omg i wanna know too if neve campell really did that 2 oprah ?

[Justthefacts]

I think about those 3 kids at least twice a day. I hope after all this, they come out fine. Because with grandparents like these, honestly....

Those kids should go to Diana Ross like Michael wanted. It's obvious Katherine is not fit to be their guardian. And Joe looming over them...didn't Debbie Rowe said he was not to be near her kids?

And why is the estate not stoppig this?

Michael wanted his kids with his Mother and you know nothing about what goes on to judge if she fit or not. Like it or not Joe is there grandfather And Debbie may be the Mother of two of them she is not the guardian and does not make descsions about who they can be around. Would rather they hang out with Marc Shaffel?

[bluetopez]

I can not wait until Oprah is FINALLY off air! Enough is enough! The fact that she had and will have those Molestation shows surrounding MJ special(s) speak volumes! She even asked Lisa that damn question! Sure she would ask Katherine now or she herself (Katherine) will bring it up!?

Damn what a line up! O_o All about molestation! So not fair! A coincidence my @$$ Oprah! She making sure people don't forget by keeping that in their heads when the big get special(s) about MJ air(s)! SMFH

[prettygirlmj]

Michael wanted his kids with his Mother and you know nothing about what goes on to judge if she fit or not. Like it or not Joe is there grandfather And Debbie may be the Mother of two of them she is not the guardian and does not make descsions about who they can be around. Would rather they hang out with Marc Shaffel?

Relax.

In case you forgot, Michael also wanted his kids with DIANA ROSS which I think would have been better, in my opinion.

I may NOT live with Katherine, but judging by what has happen in the last few months, I can say that the kids would be better off with Diana. I judge by what I see. I don't like what I have been seeing. Diana would not use those kids as a commodity. She would have protected them. She's is super private. All her kids came out fine, so she must have done something right. None of them ended up in scandals or drugs or arrested...Can't say the same about some of the Jackson family members....

In case you forgot (again) Katherine had the kids sign a belt buckle for "charity". That was a poor desicion in my opinion, as well as the Grammy speech and this interview with Oprah. I don't care if the kids wanted to do these things, Michael didn't, therefore Katherine is not respecting her son's desicions.

Believe it or not Debbie is still legally the kids mother so she DOES have rights and can make a descisions on her kids. When the stun gun incident occur, one of the first who was called was Debbie Rowe.

Joe Jackson is a monster. That's by default. And no, he does not have to be near the kids. Debbie did not want that and she has a say so even if you don't like her. Michael rarely wanted to be near his father much less his kids be near him. And I am sure it was because of what Michael must have told Debbie, she didn't want that man near her kids.

[kasume]

Did anyone read that new article about Oprah airing Michael jackson and these molestation shows back to back?????

and after seeing those children in the picture,

.....I wish Michael were here.... :(

[Petrarose]

I do not follow a lot of MJ news anymore, let alone participate in discussions... It's frankly too painful and destructive to my current health.

But, my heart sank to a new low when I learned that Katherine Jackson had gotten herself tangled up in the scams of Henry Vaccaro and affiliates (Howard Mann)--including the entire "Michael Jackson Secret Vault" premise which is exactly what MJ successfully fought to have shut down in court back in 2003-2004 and again in 2006-2007.

Oprah seems determined to make the world believe that Michael was a hardcore drug addict and that it was this massive, decades-long drug intake that caused his death--of course she won't reiterate the findings from the official autopsy/coroner report but instead seems to find willing participants to at least nod their head in agreement to her lead-in questions about drugs etc. I was unable to sit through the entire LMP interview with Oprah for this very reason.

After all this time, I am devastated to see that Michael's family and close associates remain as oblivious as ever with regards to the detractors and vultures from Michael's life, and the ulterior motives they hold. I became physically ill when I witnessed Frank Dileo and other close associates mingling with and posing for photos with Ian Halperin at Michael's memorial just days after Ian made some of the most outlandish and sickening claims against Michael. The sick feeling grew as people like Corey Feldman were invited by the family to the private funeral. And then there's Joe who happens to hire Bryan Oxman as an attorney. Still, even after all these months nothing has changed as far as the family's insight into who they should or should not associate with for the good of Michael's image and for the beliefs that he worked so hard to abide by when he was here. Either that, or they simply put money above all else. I am gutted.....

I really feel your pain here^^^. Looking at the picture my heart breaks even more to see Prince and Blanket smiling so much like Michael, and Michael is no longer here.

[prettygirlmj]

I agree, Blanket is Michael's double. It's such a sad image seeing these kids in this position. God bless them.

[music65]

I would not like to be in mama Katherine shoes, raising these kids is a challenging even though I'm sure she loves her grand children. But imagine if you were in her position and you grant Oprah or whoever an interview and you said at the end of the interview i'm letting the kids come on to talk to you, that would very hard to do. For the simple reason that, people want to see the kids not Katherine. That doesn't make right it though, but I believe Katherine believes the more people see them ,the less interested they will be in trying to follow them and take photos of them. That is one reason she decided to send them to public school. Imagine if these kids had never made an appearance on the music award show. People's interest would of still be heighten, which would of lead to more invasion of their privacy, but like it not these kids would never be fully ride of paparazzi following them and the media hounding them. So even though I know many of you would not agree with me, I think it's best if they are gonna be hounded that Katherine do on her terms when she wants to.

[Memefan]

All these fans who wanted the family in control of the estate...I hope you guys finally understand why MJ left things the way he did.

The family is irresponsible.

[riviera1992]

"The way he lived changed as soon as he got the kids. He was so concerned about their safety. He always worried they would be kidnapped or harmed in some way or taken hostage for ransom.

He called me when Diana died over in London and he was just totally freaked out. He said, 'That could have been me.' He said, 'We get chased so much,' and he was so worried. He was worried the kids would have a terrible accident, so that's why he kept the kids masked because he didn't want anyone to know what they looked like."

From interview with David Nordahl
http://www.reflectionsonthedance.com/interviewwithdavidnordahl.html

[Justthefacts]

Are we even sure if there is an interview on camera or is this just a picture released by the producers? I have jury duty that day so I won't be home would rather spend the day there anyway

[GOLDSPACESUIT45]

Only oprah can get a interview with the kids wow how does she have the power? i mean nobody can even get a interview with the kids? I mean everyone trys but how they heck did she do it?

[dangerous2000watts]

I'm surprised to know that Katherine is courageous enough to have an interview for a woman against her son, SMILING!. I only hope Oprah won't break her heart.

[bowen9999]

I do not follow a lot of MJ news anymore, let alone participate in discussions... It's frankly too painful and destructive to my current health.

But, my heart sank to a new low when I learned that Katherine Jackson had gotten herself tangled up in the scams of Henry Vaccaro and affiliates (Howard Mann)--including the entire "Michael Jackson Secret Vault" premise which is exactly what MJ successfully fought to have shut down in court back in 2003-2004 and again in 2006-2007.

Oprah seems determined to make the world believe that Michael was a hardcore drug addict and that it was this massive, decades-long drug intake that caused his death--of course she won't reiterate the findings from the official autopsy/coroner report but instead seems to find willing participants to at least nod their head in agreement to her lead-in questions about drugs etc. I was unable to sit through the entire LMP interview with Oprah for this very reason.

After all this time, I am devastated to see that Michael's family and close associates remain as oblivious as ever with regards to the detractors and vultures from Michael's life, and the ulterior motives they hold. I became physically ill when I witnessed Frank Dileo and other close associates mingling with and posing for photos with Ian Halperin at Michael's memorial just days after Ian made some of the most outlandish and sickening claims against Michael. The sick feeling grew as people like Corey Feldman were invited by the family to the private funeral. And then there's Joe who happens to hire Bryan Oxman as an attorney. Still, even after all these months nothing has changed as far as the family's insight into who they should or should not associate with for the good of Michael's image and for the beliefs that he worked so hard to abide by when he was here. Either that, or they simply put money above all else. I am gutted.....
:clapping: :agree: :clapping: :agree: :clapping: :agree: :clapping: :agree::clapping:

[Sophielo]

I do not follow a lot of MJ news anymore, let alone participate in discussions... It's frankly too painful and destructive to my current health.

But, my heart sank to a new low when I learned that Katherine Jackson had gotten herself tangled up in the scams of Henry Vaccaro and affiliates (Howard Mann)--including the entire "Michael Jackson Secret Vault" premise which is exactly what MJ successfully fought to have shut down in court back in 2003-2004 and again in 2006-2007.

Oprah seems determined to make the world believe that Michael was a hardcore drug addict and that it was this massive, decades-long drug intake that caused his death--of course she won't reiterate the findings from the official autopsy/coroner report but instead seems to find willing participants to at least nod their head in agreement to her lead-in questions about drugs etc. I was unable to sit through the entire LMP interview with Oprah for this very reason.

After all this time, I am devastated to see that Michael's family and close associates remain as oblivious as ever with regards to the detractors and vultures from Michael's life, and the ulterior motives they hold. I became physically ill when I witnessed Frank Dileo and other close associates mingling with and posing for photos with Ian Halperin at Michael's memorial just days after Ian made some of the most outlandish and sickening claims against Michael. The sick feeling grew as people like Corey Feldman were invited by the family to the private funeral. And then there's Joe who happens to hire Bryan Oxman as an attorney. Still, even after all these months nothing has changed as far as the family's insight into who they should or should not associate with for the good of Michael's image and for the beliefs that he worked so hard to abide by when he was here. Either that, or they simply put money above all else. I am gutted.....

Yeah, this.

[suzynyc]

I would not like to be in mama Katherine shoes, raising these kids is a challenging even though I'm sure she loves her grand children. But imagine if you were in her position and you grant Oprah or whoever an interview and you said at the end of the interview i'm letting the kids come on to talk to you, that would very hard to do. For the simple reason that, people want to see the kids not Katherine. That doesn't make right it though, but I believe Katherine believes the more people see them ,the less interested they will be in trying to follow them and take photos of them. That is one reason she decided to send them to public school. Imagine if these kids had never made an appearance on the music award show. People's interest would of still be heighten, which would of lead to more invasion of their privacy, but like it not these kids would never be fully ride of paparazzi following them and the media hounding them. So even though I know many of you would not agree with me, I think it's best if they are gonna be hounded that Katherine do on her terms when she wants to.

And Katherine did say in one of her recent interviews that she never liked that Michael covered the children's faces. So she's probably just doing what she thinks is right as their legal guardian (or being manipulated by Joe, et al). She is their guardian, not Oprah, not us.

I think the kids will be fine. It's just a talk show appearance. It's not like they are on stage performing in a singing group (although we know Joe would love that, heh).

[bobmoo79]

Did anyone read that new article about Oprah airing Michael jackson and these molestation shows back to back?????

and after seeing those children in the picture,

.....I wish Michael were here.... :(




Yes and I think it's disgusting.
Oprah is dispicable. She manages to get one of the biggest interviews in the world and she repays the Jackson family by airing a show about child molestation straight after. She clearly thinks that MJ was a criminal and although she is not expressing her views overtly, with her scheduling she is definitely conveying them covertly.

[144,000]

And Katherine did say in one of her recent interviews that she never liked that Michael covered the children's faces. So she's probably just doing what she thinks is right as their legal guardian (or being manipulated by Joe, et al). She is their guardian, not Oprah, not us.

I think the kids will be fine. It's just a talk show appearance. It's not like they are on stage performing in a singing group (although we know Joe would love that, heh).

it really doesn't matter. when it comes to our kids..as parents, we wouldn't want our mother to override us on decisions concerning our kids. it's an unwritten rule. if Michael wanted to cover their faces, he was the parent. his decision was the right decision. and as we found out with Michael, more appearances didn't stop the frenzy directed at him. more appearances won't stop the frenzy toward his kids. not a good idea for the kids to be interviewed..especially, since child molestation shows will proceed that interview. Oprah doesn't have a sense of discipline. this is her last season and show. anything for money. there is no decorum, here.

and this is not directed at you, but i notice that if people have a real problem with what Oprah Winfrey does, others call it hating on Oprah. that's not true. if someone greatly disagrees..if a parent disciplines a child and a child hates it, and is prone to saying i hate my mother...that's overboard. if anything..discipline is anything but hate.. hating someone is just letting them run wild and undisciplined until they destroy themselves. Oprah comes off as a child without discipline. she doesn't care who she hurts, she doesn't think about the outcome..and i'm reminded of a producer who was talking about the last season of Smallville...he said..all rules go out the window. for Oprah, all rules are going out the window. and the only person she will hurt, in the end, is herself. she is clearly showing envy and hate for Michael, airing these molestation shows, and then interviewing Michael's kids. if anybody is doing the hating, it's Oprah Winfrey. it was she who said that a drug overdose was the TRUTH, in Michael Jackson's death. and she had NO proof. none. and that was BEFORE she asked Presley any questions. she has the acquittal of Michael by a U.S. court jury, after she, herself served jury duty, in another case; and with all that, she's airing this succesion of programs, knowing how subliminal media works. Mike's kids, most likely have no idea, what Winfrey will do, after the interview, as far as editing. NBC dateline is proof, as they made Katherine Jackson look like an ignorant buffoon, when all she was doing, was defending her son. and, after the Presley interview, the design scheme was clear. to portray Michael as a drug addict, in an interview where Winfrey was clearly asking leading questions to Presley. imagine what Winfrey can do, with the use of MJ's kids. and, perhaps, with the use of Katherine Jackson.

in fact, Winfrey's already used the kids, through the succession of the schedule of interviews. child molestation interviews, before Katherine interview and kids interview. by the schedule alone, Winfrey has used the art of subliminal media to portray Michael as a drug addict and child molester. we all know about subliminal media use. and Winfrey is queen of this. and also queen of denial. she has said these interviews are purely coincidental. this, from a powerful woman, who has her own production company and enterprise, and controls her own show?

[johnlucas]

*Sigh*
I see as usual that the fans are hysterical as ever. I see as usual that the fans think they can step in between Michael and his family. I see as usual that the fans think every Jackson not named Michael is automatically a user, a schemer, an exploiter, evil incarnate.

I'm sick of Michael Jackson fans running down Michael Jackson's family. You all think you can speak for Michael but you're not HIM! You don't know how he felt about them. You can't take the place of them. Family may fuss & family may fight but family is forever.

Michael forgave Joe who caused lots of emotional pain in his life. Michael forgave Jermaine who insinuated Michael hated his ethnic heritage in Word To The Badd. Michael even forgave LaToya who under duress from Mafia associate Jack Gordon called him a pedophile during his first allegations.
So where do fans get off running down the family that Michael himself loved???????

I bet money that if Michael heard fans talking about his family the way y'all do, he'd cuss you out & put you in your place. He might say "How dare you insult my family like that?" I bet money that you suckers would NEVER say that kind of crap to Michael's face like you do on here. And he wouldn't stand for it.

I haven't posted here since last year. And I had been a member since when this place was called MJJForum.com with MsTenda at the helm. I see nothing has changed when it comes to respecting Michael's loved ones.

The word 'fan' is short for fanatic & you guys prove that point each time you run crazy with all of this disrespectful talk to Michael's family. You don't have to agree with them & all of their decisions but have the decency to respect them as an integral part of Michael's life. If you have a concern, pass it on to Randy through Twitter or something & have him advocate your finding.

We all want to protect Michael's children, legacy, & estate. We all want the Jackson legacy to live on & not be ripped off by the vultures who swarmed around Michael until the end.

I don't trust Oprah either but I see this as walking directly into the Lion's Den & facing the Lion head on. I see Katherine is not so keen on hiding from everybody eternally.
Some people couldn't begin to understand Michael until they SAW Prince, Paris, & Blanket at the public memorial. When they saw & heard Paris speak, her simple words rolled back decades of misunderstanding & demonization towards Michael.

Those who ran him down took more time to understand & realized how wrong they were because they got to see the kids in full view for themselves. Suddenly the masks begin to make sense. These were well-adjusted intelligent healthy children & when they saw the result of that excellent parenting from Michael it made them doubt that this guy could ever be a pedophile. All because they saw the kids for themselves. No more "bad parent Michael who dangles babies". Now they could see that the stories were true about Michael's abilities as a father.

Katherine may be doing a service here by going on Oprah. Oprah has one of the biggest platforms on Earth & Katherine can handle herself. Like Michael, she's soft-spoken but strong-willed. Maybe she will finally breakthrough to Oprah about who Michael always was. The kindness you love from Michael comes from Katherine. SHE taught him these things. How can you run down the woman who Michael time & time again praised as an inspiration in his life?

People wanna praise Geraldo for 2005 but forget that in 1993 he ran Michael down on his talk show too. He was part of that tabloidish universe back then too. Yet Michael still talked to him in 2005. Geraldo talked trash afterwards but at that time he was fair & let Michael say his piece giving him one of the better interviews in Michael's life.

I want to see how The Jacksons handle themselves. They love Michael I don't care what some of you fans say. And Michael loved them. Let them say their piece & make your assessments afterwards. I don't trust Oprah but something tells me this will turn out alright.
John Lucas

[JMie]

You don't know how he felt about them. yes, we do. he left them out of his will. actions speak louder than words.

anyway, even though I am deeply upset by this photo, I've decided to wait and see what happens. I just hope Oprah doesn't ask the kids any upleasant questions.

[Big Apple2]

yes, we do. he left them out of his will. actions speak louder than words.

Not only that, he also wanted Diana Ross to raise his children if his mother were unable to.

With all of those siblings that Michael has, in my opinion, that ALSO speaks volumes.

As to Oprah, she's a sneaky little bugger. She got that Tyler Perry show (along with the 200 molested men) lined up for Friday and she will be using that show to promote her Jackson family interview, which is on Monday.

She ain't slick! She puts it out there AND WITHOUT SAYING A WORD, she sends a message nonetheless, in my opinion.

[gerryevans]

johnlucas

I think the majority of fans know and respect how much Michael genuinely loved his family. The family's actions just make many wonder how genuinely they all loved and respected him, not as Michael the superstar--just as Michael.

Plus, Michael was always saying all he wanted was to be loved. Granted, we are outsiders looking in, but when we do, there is more than sufficient reason to again wonder WHY he so desperately sought it if he was getting it from his most immediate sphere.

I happen to believe that MJ's family does love them, but they look out for themselves at times when Michael and his wishes should be the priority consideration.

[StacyJ]

if anybody is doing the hating, it's Oprah Winfrey. it was she who said that a drug overdose was the TRUTH


Did Oprah even mention Murray?

[johnlucas]

johnlucas

I think the majority of fans know and respect how much Michael genuinely loved his family. The family's actions just make many wonder how genuinely they all loved and respected him, not as Michael the superstar--just as Michael.

Plus, Michael was always saying all he wanted was to be loved. Granted, we are outsiders looking in, but when we do, there is more than sufficient reason to again wonder WHY he so desperately sought it if he was getting it from his most immediate sphere.

I happen to believe that MJ's family does love them, but they look out for themselves at times when Michael and his wishes should be the priority consideration.

I believe it is 100% genuine. End of story.
We ARE outsiders looking in & I think most of us forget that.

We know Michael publicly because he had consistent character throughout the years. But we don't know Michael up close & personal. We don't know his interactions with his family.
We didn't know they had a Family Day on May 14th where Jermaine & Michael sang & talked to each other & Janet & Michael goofed around & joked. We only know because the family told us.

We can have our theories, our suspicions, our hypotheses, but at the end of the day we don't know the day to day ins & outs of the Jackson family.

It is ARROGANT to think we know Michael better than his family. It is ARROGANT to think his family is not genuine towards him.

Do you know of Diana Ross' drunken episodes a few years back? That's not a slam against her character. Everybody makes mistakes, everybody has setbacks in life. She is said to be an excellent mother. If the kids would have gone to her, I'm sure the fans would nitpick everything SHE did thinking they know what's best for the children. They'd probably be saying that Katherine would be a better choice ironically. :D

WE ain't raising those kids! Katherine is. It's so easy to play armchair quarterback but I bet dollars to donuts none of these fans got what it takes to raise those children, the offspring of the most famous man in the world & all that entails. They ain't got the dollars to sustain those kids' lifestyles. They're not gonna pitch in where it counts. They're just gonna talk shit.

When it's all said & done I put my money on the woman who raised 9 kids in a little ass house in the ghettos of Gary, Indiana. I put my money on the woman who is the Matriarch of Hayvenhurst. Michael knew EXACTLY what he was doing when naming the guardian of his children. It didn't surprise me AT ALL when Katherine's name came up.

LaToya said Michael's words at the memorial.
Family first, fans second.

Michael loved us even if he didn't know us up close & personal. We loved him even though we didn't know him up close & personal. He gave his all to us. And we showed our love for him especially at that trial.

But FAMILY takes priority over the fans as it should.
We do ourselves no favors by thinking we can replace them.
We must work WITH them. THEY are the reason Michael was the person we love today. Michael didn't create himself.
It's not Michael Michael. It's Michael Jackson. Michael Jackson of the Jackson Family.

We better remember that. We better respect that.
I guarantee you if you fans ran down Michael's family in front of Michael like that, he'd set you straight sho' nuff quick.

100% love. 100% genuine. That's not opinion. That's fact.
John Lucas

[JMie]

THEY are the reason Michael was the person we love today. Michael didn't create himself.

If you want to know how Michael felt when Joe told him the same thing, you should listen to the Glenda tapes.

[gerryevans]

But FAMILY takes priority over the fans as it should.
We do ourselves no favors by thinking we can replace them.
We must work WITH them. THEY are the reason Michael was the person we love today. Michael didn't create himself.
It's not Michael Michael. It's Michael Jackson. Michael Jackson of the Jackson Family.

We better remember that. We better respect that.
I guarantee you if you fans ran down Michael's family in front of Michael like that, he'd set you straight sho' nuff quick.

100% love. 100% genuine. That's not opinion. That's fact.
John Lucas

Of course, FAMILY takes priority over the fans. Michael being a part of the family, should also take priority over family members self interest.

[johnlucas]

If you want to know how Michael felt when Joe told him the same thing, you should listen to the Glenda tapes.

I heard the Glenda tapes.
I STILL say Michael ain't what he is without his family.
Neither am I. Neither are you. Neither is anybody.

Oh sure Michael learned & took himself further. But he couldn't have gotten there without his family to nurture him & teach him.

I'd love to see a newborn baby raise himself. I'd love to see a fetus form without a mother's womb.
The fact is in life NOBODY did it all themselves. We are all interdependent.

Did you know that one of Michael's early singing influences was his big brother Jermaine? Yeah that Jermaine the fans love to run down all the time.

Did you know that Michael credits Joe for his upbringing as much as he laments over the emotional pain it caused?

Without Katherine & Joseph Jackson there would literally BE no Jackson 5, thus there would be no Michael Jackson. And I ain't talking about just giving birth. I'm talking about parenting, raising, creating that family bond, discipline, nurturing, feeding, clothing, washing, teaching.

When you grow up, you go your own way & make your own choices. But before you do that, you gotta have that foundation to start from. Buildings don't form from the middle up. They form from the bottom up. It don't start from the sky. It starts from ground zero.

Without Katherine's influence & Joe's drive, how do you think Michael would have turned out? He might have been an arrogant lazy SOB. That perfectionism we enjoy from Michael comes from Joe. That kindness we love from him comes from Katherine. His want to be like Jesus comes all those days in Kingdom Hall where Katherine chose to keep him in church rather than them Gary streets. His belief in the impossible becoming possible (I will sell 20 million records) came from Joe refusing to let their dreams become small.

And when those Glenda tapes were made Michael was a much younger person who didn't have his own kids yet. But you see him in those Bashir outtakes & that Geraldo interview & see how he now understands more about his parents ways now that he's become a parent. That's how it usually happens.

Joe & Katherine sheltered their kids from the harsh Gary streets through music & church. Michael sheltered his kids from the harsh glare of fame with masks & home schooling. The details are different but the theme is the same.

Rebbie was little mama making sure Michael ate his collard greens.
Jackie stayed on Michael's butt to do his homework.
Tito was the one who exampled that Michael could show his talent when he took out the guitar.
Jermaine was the big brother that he looked up to.
LaToya was the big sister to tease & make fun with.
Marlon was Michael's little buddy to run around play with.
Randy was little brother who he could protect & look out for.
Janet was little sister who he could inspire & share like minds.

His family shaped the very person he was. What did Michael do—even as late as This Is It—every time it came to the J5 medley? He called out the names of his brothers, one by one in the spotlight. Michael knew that he could not be if it wasn't for the Jackson 5. He knew he could not be if it weren't for his family.

I don't care how many times they fell out with each other or fussed or argued or whatever. At the end of the day, he knew family was important. It doesn't matter about professionally. Personally is all that mattered.

Some of these fans have really got it twisted. I'm here to straighten you out.
John Lucas

[magiktori]

I heard the Glenda tapes.
I STILL say Michael ain't what he is without his family.
Neither am I. Neither are you. Neither is anybody.

Oh sure Michael learned & took himself further. But he couldn't have gotten there without his family to nurture him & teach him.

I'd love to see a newborn baby raise himself. I'd love to see a fetus form without a mother's womb.
The fact is in life NOBODY did it all themselves. We are all interdependent.

Did you know that one of Michael's early singing influences was his big brother Jermaine? Yeah that Jermaine the fans love to run down all the time.

Did you know that Michael credits Joe for his upbringing as much as he laments over the emotional pain it caused?

Without Katherine & Joseph Jackson there would literally BE no Jackson 5, thus there would be no Michael Jackson. And I ain't talking about just giving birth. I'm talking about parenting, raising, creating that family bond, discipline, nurturing, feeding, clothing, washing, teaching.

When you grow up, you go your own way & make your own choices. But before you do that, you gotta have that foundation to start from. Buildings don't form from the middle up. They form from the bottom up. It don't start from the sky. It starts from ground zero.

Without Katherine's influence & Joe's drive, how do you think Michael would have turned out? He might have been an arrogant lazy SOB. That perfectionism we enjoy from Michael comes from Joe. That kindness we love from him comes from Katherine. His want to be like Jesus comes all those days in Kingdom Hall where Katherine chose to keep him in church rather than them Gary streets. His belief in the impossible becoming possible (I will sell 20 million records) came from Joe refusing to let their dreams become small.

And when those Glenda tapes were made Michael was a much younger person who didn't have his own kids yet. But you see him in those Bashir outtakes & that Geraldo interview & see how he now understands more about his parents ways now that he's become a parent. That's how it usually happens.

Joe & Katherine sheltered their kids from the harsh Gary streets through music & church. Michael sheltered his kids from the harsh glare of fame with masks & home schooling. The details are different but the theme is the same.

Rebbie was little mama making sure Michael ate his collard greens.
Jackie stayed on Michael's butt to do his homework.
Tito was the one who exampled that Michael could show his talent when he took out the guitar.
Jermaine was the big brother that he looked up to.
LaToya was the big sister to tease & make fun with.
Marlon was Michael's little buddy to run around play with.
Randy was little brother who he could protect & look out for.
Janet was little sister who he could inspire & share like minds.

His family shaped the very person he was. What did Michael do—even as late as This Is It—every time it came to the J5 medley? He called out the names of his brothers, one by one in the spotlight. Michael knew that he could not be if it wasn't for the Jackson 5. He knew he could not be if it weren't for his family.

I don't care how many times they fell out with each other or fussed or argued or whatever. At the end of the day, he knew family was important. It doesn't matter about professionally. Personally is all that mattered.

Some of these fans have really got it twisted. I'm here to straighten you out.
John Lucas
everything you say is 100 percent true and as i said before you dont wana see it dont watch if we all dont watch this it will be the best thing for this board i think

[ginvid]

Why do people automatically assume we are talking bad about the family when we disagree with a decision they make. I do not like when someone assumes that just because we do not agree with something the family does, it makes us less of fan of Michael. As of late, in this thread, I think fans have been very respectful in stating their opinions. And no one has been (or at least allowed to) call Katherine names or show hatred towards her. That is because many are aware of how much MJ loved her and so want to give her the benefit of the doubt. We may not be privy to MJ's intimate conversations with his family, but we can deduce based on how he conducted himself, how he treated his children, and what he said, how he would feel about his children being on the Oprah show. A deductioin is all we have and if some choose to tactfully speak their OPINION on the matter then there is nothing wrong with that. It is no wonder that many fans have a higher regard for her than the rest of the family. But it does not mean that they can have no opinion at all if it speaks against something they do, even Katherine. As long as they are respectful.

No one is infallible. MJ included. And, many fans disagreed with some of the things he did. That doesn't mean they are fanatical or less of a fan for doing so. Fans disagreeing with something that Katherine does, does not make them (on a whole) a bunch of hysterical, over reacting, fanatics who are less of a fan for thinking the way they do.

Some of the very fans who have such a problem with a member discussing what they think is wrong with what a family member does has no problem casting that same hysterical disregard to their fellow fans. Regardless of whether their fans have a valid concern or not.

Can fans get out of control? Yes, of course. But does that mean a fan cannot have a dissenting opinion? No. I keep saying this, because it is true: There is no reason why adults cannot come to a place of varying opinions and give those opinions pro or con without feeling like less of a person and without being attacked for it.

You nor I do not know exactly how MJ would react in some situations. If a fan came to him with a genuine concern about what a family member was doing, I do not think he would curse them out. But that is just me. I don't know for sure. And contrary to what you think, if I saw a family member, I would very much speak to them about what I had on my mind. They may not listen, but it would make me feel better. But that is just me. I know it is a huge reponsibility to raise children. And I agreee with you, raising children as famous as MJ's will exponentially increase that load. But parents, even though their intentions are the best, will not always act in the best interests if their children. That is what is a fact. There are just some who think this may be one of those occasions.

But it is something that the future will reveal. We will all have to see how this unfolds.

[gerryevans]

^^^^^T h a n k Y o u!

[CherubimII]

Katherine and Joe Jackson are both in their 80's.
They need to give it a rest.
They are too old to continue on making one money making scheme after another.

Michael, most likely, would simply like them to just concentrate on
helping his children grow from childhood into adulthood.:yes:

[johnlucas]

Why do people automatically assume we are talking bad about the family when we disagree with a decision they make. I do not like when someone assumes that just because we do not agree with something the family does, it makes us less of fan of Michael. As of late, in this thread, I think fans have been very respectful in stating their opinions. And no one has been (or at least allowed to) call Katherine names or show hatred towards her...
...No one is infallible. MJ included. And, many fans disagreed with some of the things he did. That doesn't mean they are fanatical or less of a fan for doing so. Fans disagreeing with something that Katherine does, does not make them (on a whole) a bunch of hysterical, over reacting, fanatics who are less of a fan for thinking the way they do...


Let's see.
Earlier in this thread I'm hearing people implicate Randy Jackson in the murder/death of Michael. I'm hearing people talking about Katherine exploiting Michael's name for money 'cause that's "allll" she & the whole family thinks about. Joe is this big bad evil monster who will grind the kids' bones to make his bread.

These ain't respectful differences of opinion, it's outright character assassination. I get that they don't trust Oprah. I don't either. I DON'T, however, think that Katherine goes on these shows to use Michael & Michael's kids as a cash cow. She's doing this to defend his honor, his good name. What she's been doing for decades upon decades now. She's also doing it defend the family's honor.

Fans take it too doggone far & make a mockery of themselves on these boards with these ridiculous opinions. I mean I couldn't believe someone implied or outright said that Randy had something to do with Michael's death. Like he's part of the conspiracy. They've been watching too much CSI or some shit. Too much Law & Order.

The way I see it, Michael's part of a package deal. You get Michael, 8 siblings & we'll throw in 2 parents for the low low price of $19.95.
You can't break the set, in other words.

When someone question Michael's family love for him, I take offense. I can question their actions or their ideas. But I cannot question their love for him. I will not stand for it & I will not condone it. And I will stand against any fan who crosses that line.

I'm an admirer of Michael & I'm an admirer of the Jackson Family in total. I love these people as if they were my own family. I can take a fan teasing Jermaine's greasy hair. I can take a fan having fun about LaToya's clothes. But I won't take a fan portraying Michael's family members as mortal enemies of him. I won't take a fan talking about Michael's family members as if they used him as a trained monkey to organ grind for dollars then locked him in the cage when they were done.

I'm GLAD Katherine's taking it to the head. Go right directly TO Oprah & set her ass straight once & for all. Maybe that heifer will start coming correct when she talks about Michael in the future.
Michael himself was going to introduce his kids to the world formally at This Is It anyway. Outside of Blanket, they're big enough now to handle this.

They are NEVER EVER EVER going to be "normal" children.
These are the children of the most famous man on the planet. They had better get prepared now on how to deal with their inherited celebrity & it's best to control what outlet they get to display themselves in first. One day it's not going to be in their hands.

What this interview will show is that despite it all, these kids are well-adjusted & well-raised not only by Michael but Katherine as well. The Jackson family ain't a bunch of sideshow freaks. They are people like you & me. They are a family despite all the cracks & pressures from the limelight.

I'm not worried about this interview at all. Oprah can't attack with those children there. She won't attack with his mother there.
John Lucas

[afgtnk]

Wow. Disappointing turn of events to say the least. Would this happen if Michael Jackson was alive? No

Unfortunately I don't think much will change until these kids get older.

[Memefan]

yes, we do. he left them out of his will. actions speak louder than words.

anyway, even though I am deeply upset by this photo, I've decided to wait and see what happens. I just hope Oprah doesn't ask the kids any upleasant questions.


Not only that, he also wanted Diana Ross to raise his children if his mother were unable to.

With all of those siblings that Michael has, in my opinion, that ALSO speaks volumes.

As to Oprah, she's a sneaky little bugger. She got that Tyler Perry show (along with the 200 molested men) lined up for Friday and she will be using that show to promote her Jackson family interview, which is on Monday.

She ain't slick! She puts it out there AND WITHOUT SAYING A WORD, she sends a message nonetheless, in my opinion.


Nothing else to add. The end.

MJ was closer to the Cascios, Liz taylor...and others, then his own flesh and blood...


Don't get it twisted John Lucas...you don't want to go there.

That being said, let's ignore the family and try to support the estate as long as they keep honoring MJ adn his legacy adequately...until his beloved children take over.

[Kellye]

When someone dies everything changes. And these kids lives did a 180. We all know Michael would not have wanted his children to be in the spot light like this, but its not like this is the first public appearance they are making. I am sure those kids and the family knew the second they stepped on the stage at that memorial that they would become public figures. I think it is nice that they want to talk about their daddy, and they obviously are not being forced to do it. Who better to talk about Michael then the 3 people he loved most in the world? They are Michael's legacy and if they have to make a few appearances here or there and not live a 'normal' childhood (they never did tbh) then that is ok. Even if Michael was still here I think that they would have become known within the next few years anyway. Just my opinion.

As for Oprah, this interview will be a slap in the face to her when she sees how mature and sweet his children are and she wont be able edit that out of her show. Maybe meeting the children can change her opinion on Michael. A '*****' did not raise those children.

[johnlucas]

Nothing else to add. The end.

MJ was closer to the Cascios, Liz taylor...and others, then his own flesh and blood...


Don't get it twisted John Lucas...you don't want to go there.

That being said, let's ignore the family and try to support the estate as long as they keep honoring MJ adn his legacy adequately...until his beloved children take over.

I WENT there.
I came back and WENT there again.
Took a nap, woke up, & WENT there one more time.

The Cascios, Liz Taylor.
You know that for sure? Were you there? Are you Michael's brain?
ARROGANT like I said.
Some of Michael's fans are seriously arrogant. It does not reflect well on Michael as far as I'm concerned. I will stand against that arrogance as long as I have breath in my body.
Respect the fam.
John Lucas

[MJ TinkerBell]

Did anyone see this recent News Article regarding Michael's Children and Oprah ??

*****Please make sure to be RESPECTFUL in your Posts of other MJ Family Memebers that Post their Opinions even if they do NOT agree with yours !! :angel:
Remember Michael's Children WILL read this someday and we want them to be able to see what we said..:angel:
I Michael you ALL :wub::angel:!!*****

The Article:

Oprah Winfrey's Backyard Visit with Michael Jackson's Kids..
November 3, 2010, 6:07 am Tim Nudd People.com

Michael Jackson's children appear relaxed and happy..

http://images.mirror.co.uk/upl/m4/nov2010/1/0/m4-image-4-174269014.jpg

Relaxed, smiling and playful – that's the image of Michael Jackson's three children captured in a candid photo taken during Oprah Winfrey's visit to the Jacksons' Encino, Calif., home last month.

Prince, 13, and Paris, 12, are seen smiling as Paris reaches out to Blanket, 8, who is curled up in a lawn chair in the backyard of the home, while Winfrey and the children's grandparents, Katherine and Joe Jackson, are seated across the table.

The talk-show host was there to interview Katherine about Michael's childhood, his career, his children and his legacy 18 months after the pop legend's untimely death at age 50.

Katherine Jackson, the legal guardian of the three children, talks to Winfrey about her son's legacy, his childhood and his children in the interview to be broadcast on "The Oprah Winfrey Show" on Monday.

Katherine Jackson has given few interviews since the sudden, June 2009 death of the "Thriller" singer.

As very young children, the kids were kept secluded by their father, who often had them wear veils in public. Since his death, Prince Michael and Paris have started attending school, although Blanket continues to be home-schooled.

That interview is scheduled to air on The Oprah Winfrey Show Monday,
Nov. 8, 2010.

Tim Nudd

The Source:
http://au.lifestyle.yahoo.com/who/ar...jacksons-kids/

always,
MJ TinkerBell..:wub::agree::angel:

[ginvid]

Let's see.
Earlier in this thread I'm hearing people implicate Randy Jackson in the murder/death of Michael. I'm hearing people talking about Katherine exploiting Michael's name for money 'cause that's "allll" she & the whole family thinks about. Joe is this big bad evil monster who will grind the kids' bones to make his bread.

These ain't respectful differences of opinion, it's outright character assassination. I get that they don't trust Oprah. I don't either. I DON'T, however, think that Katherine goes on these shows to use Michael & Michael's kids as a cash cow. She's doing this to defend his honor, his good name. What she's been doing for decades upon decades now. She's also doing it defend the family's honor.

Fans take it too doggone far & make a mockery of themselves on these boards with these ridiculous opinions. I mean I couldn't believe someone implied or outright said that Randy had something to do with Michael's death. Like he's part of the conspiracy. They've been watching too much CSI or some shit. Too much Law & Order.

The way I see it, Michael's part of a package deal. You get Michael, 8 siblings & we'll throw in 2 parents for the low low price of $19.95.
You can't break the set, in other words.

When someone question Michael's family love for him, I take offense. I can question their actions or their ideas. But I cannot question their love for him. I will not stand for it & I will not condone it. And I will stand against any fan who crosses that line.

I'm an admirer of Michael & I'm an admirer of the Jackson Family in total. I love these people as if they were my own family. I can take a fan teasing Jermaine's greasy hair. I can take a fan having fun about LaToya's clothes. But I won't take a fan portraying Michael's family members as mortal enemies of him. I won't take a fan talking about Michael's family members as if they used him as a trained monkey to organ grind for dollars then locked him in the cage when they were done.

I'm GLAD Katherine's taking it to the head. Go right directly TO Oprah & set her ass straight once & for all. Maybe that heifer will start coming correct when she talks about Michael in the future.
Michael himself was going to introduce his kids to the world formally at This Is It anyway. Outside of Blanket, they're big enough now to handle this.

They are NEVER EVER EVER going to be "normal" children.
These are the children of the most famous man on the planet. They had better get prepared now on how to deal with their inherited celebrity & it's best to control what outlet they get to display themselves in first. One day it's not going to be in their hands.

What this interview will show is that despite it all, these kids are well-adjusted & well-raised not only by Michael but Katherine as well. The Jackson family ain't a bunch of sideshow freaks. They are people like you & me. They are a family despite all the cracks & pressures from the limelight.

I'm not worried about this interview at all. Oprah can't attack with those children there. She won't attack with his mother there.
John Lucas

I won't disagree with you about "Earlier" in the thread. I said as of late. As in "Lately" in the thread. The thread has obviously moved on. We should all follow suit.

And, I am happy you have your own opinions about the interview. That's your choice what they are. But others will feel differently, and that is their choice as well.

I'll tell you what I won't take, I won't take someone coming here and demeaning someone else for not having a positive view of the family if they are respectful in stating their opinion. Many do not feel as you do, plain and simple. But it is not your place to dictate how people should feel. Or to say they are arrogant because those views are not sanctioned by you.

This is a board of Opinions. Some do feel the family was harmful to him. They have their reasons for feeling that way. Maybe we can start asking each other what is the motivation behind those opinions instead of dismissing those opinions. Communicating instead of condescending. We can learn a lot from each other. Maybe more than you think.:yes:

[music65]

agree with Johnlucas, I think the more secluded kathrine keeps the kids the more difficult it will be. Prince and paris are gonna be teenagers in a year or two from now at that time it would be very hard to hide the truth from them. That is why letting them out is good, I do not like Oprah but she got a big audience.

[Big Apple2]

I'm GLAD Katherine's taking it to the head. Go right directly TO Oprah & set her ass straight once & for all. Maybe that heifer will start coming correct when she talks about Michael in the future.

LOL! I seriously doubt that Ms. Katherine is going to be "setting anybody's ass straight."

In my opinion, this appearance is to promote her coffee table book, so that she and Joe Jackson can pump some money into their "Jackson Family Foundation." The same FAMILY foundation that Randy Jackson claims he knows nothing about and is not a part of.

I wonder how much face time Howard Mann will be receiving, since he will be looking to collect his cut from the coffee table book.

I guess time will tell!

[ginvid]

Everyone, I know we have strong feelings on the subject, but wishing someone's death is a bit extreme. Please think about what you say before you post. And if you need someone to talk to, you can PM anyone on staff or any of your fellow members. We are here for each other.

[TheChosenOne]

ginvid - your post on this matter was spot on. Thank you for that.

[MJ_Jordan]

Sorry if this has been answered already... i'm new to this thread.

Will the UK be able to see this interview? I don't know if Oprah is broadcast here?

[noumene]

So it actually happened then. I have a lump in my throat looking at that picture and can't even explain why.

I know full well they'll hold their own, but that doesn't matter, they shouldn't even have to think of doing this sort of thing. And people can come up with any excuse they want, I don't care. There's no valid justification for the children being involved at all.

[Sophielo]

Sorry if this has been answered already... i'm new to this thread.

Will the UK be able to see this interview? I don't know if Oprah is broadcast here?

It'll have to be YouTube for us lot, Oprah airs on some rather obselete Sky channel.

[JMie]

thank you, ginvid

[CherubimII]

Michael Jackson's children are too young to be caught up in
Jackson Family "dramas" and business dealings.
Kathrine Jackson must keep them away from all that.

They should be loved, cared for, watched over, and not exploited.
Pray for Michael Jackson's children. :angel:

[Dutchie]

Sorry if this has been answered already... i'm new to this thread.

Will the UK be able to see this interview? I don't know if Oprah is broadcast here?
I don't know if they broadcast Oprah over there, but surely just like the LMP interview, it will be on Youtube within a few hours after the airing of the show..

[bowen9999]

I hope it's uploaded to Youtube 'cos I have NO intention on giving HER the ratings!

[suzynyc]

and this is not directed at you, but i notice that if people have a real problem with what Oprah Winfrey does, others call it hating on Oprah. that's not true.

I've seen many hateful things posted about Oprah here. Making fat jokes and calling her a heffer and other names and even insulting Americans just for watching her show qualifies as hatred. Oh, I've read many hateful comments. I am not happy with Oprah's history as it pertains to Michael either but spewing all this hate for her (or anyone except maybe Murray) is not productive or helpful.

[Petrarose]

it really doesn't matter. when it comes to our kids..as parents, we wouldn't want our mother to override us on decisions concerning our kids. it's an unwritten rule. if Michael wanted to cover their faces, he was the parent. his decision was the right decision. and as we found out with Michael, more appearances didn't stop the frenzy directed at him. more appearances won't stop the frenzy toward his kids. not a good idea for the kids to be interviewed..especially, since child molestation shows will proceed that interview. Oprah doesn't have a sense of discipline. this is her last season and show. anything for money. there is no decorum, here.

and this is not directed at you, but i notice that if people have a real problem with what Oprah Winfrey does, others call it hating on Oprah. that's not true. if someone greatly disagrees..if a parent disciplines a child and a child hates it, and is prone to saying i hate my mother...that's overboard. if anything..discipline is anything but hate.. hating someone is just letting them run wild and undisciplined until they destroy themselves. Oprah comes off as a child without discipline. she doesn't care who she hurts, she doesn't think about the outcome..and i'm reminded of a producer who was talking about the last season of Smallville...he said..all rules go out the window. for Oprah, all rules are going out the window. and the only person she will hurt, in the end, is herself. she is clearly showing envy and hate for Michael, airing these molestation shows, and then interviewing Michael's kids. if anybody is doing the hating, it's Oprah Winfrey. it was she who said that a drug overdose was the TRUTH, in Michael Jackson's death. and she had NO proof. none. and that was BEFORE she asked Presley any questions. she has the acquittal of Michael by a U.S. court jury, after she, herself served jury duty, in another case; and with all that, she's airing this succesion of programs, knowing how subliminal media works. Mike's kids, most likely have no idea, what Winfrey will do, after the interview, as far as editing. NBC dateline is proof, as they made Katherine Jackson look like an ignorant buffoon, when all she was doing, was defending her son. and, after the Presley interview, the design scheme was clear. to portray Michael as a drug addict, in an interview where Winfrey was clearly asking leading questions to Presley. imagine what Winfrey can do, with the use of MJ's kids. and, perhaps, with the use of Katherine Jackson.

in fact, Winfrey's already used the kids, through the succession of the schedule of interviews. child molestation interviews, before Katherine interview and kids interview. by the schedule alone, Winfrey has used the art of subliminal media to portray Michael as a drug addict and child molester. we all know about subliminal media use. and Winfrey is queen of this. and also queen of denial. she has said these interviews are purely coincidental. this, from a powerful woman, who has her own production company and enterprise, and controls her own show?

Excellent post!! As usual you see the bigger picture.

[Petrarose]

Why do people automatically assume we are talking bad about the family when we disagree with a decision they make. I do not like when someone assumes that just because we do not agree with something the family does, it makes us less of fan of Michael. As of late, in this thread, I think fans have been very respectful in stating their opinions. And no one has been (or at least allowed to) call Katherine names or show hatred towards her. That is because many are aware of how much MJ loved her and so want to give her the benefit of the doubt. We may not be privy to MJ's intimate conversations with his family, but we can deduce based on how he conducted himself, how he treated his children, and what he said, how he would feel about his children being on the Oprah show. A deductioin is all we have and if some choose to tactfully speak their OPINION on the matter then there is nothing wrong with that. It is no wonder that many fans have a higher regard for her than the rest of the family. But it does not mean that they can have no opinion at all if it speaks against something they do, even Katherine. As long as they are respectful.

No one is infallible. MJ included. And, many fans disagreed with some of the things he did. That doesn't mean they are fanatical or less of a fan for doing so. Fans disagreeing with something that Katherine does, does not make them (on a whole) a bunch of hysterical, over reacting, fanatics who are less of a fan for thinking the way they do.

Some of the very fans who have such a problem with a member discussing what they think is wrong with what a family member does has no problem casting that same hysterical disregard to their fellow fans. Regardless of whether their fans have a valid concern or not.

Can fans get out of control? Yes, of course. But does that mean a fan cannot have a dissenting opinion? No. I keep saying this, because it is true: There is no reason why adults cannot come to a place of varying opinions and give those opinions pro or con without feeling like less of a person and without being attacked for it.

You nor I do not know exactly how MJ would react in some situations. If a fan came to him with a genuine concern about what a family member was doing, I do not think he would curse them out. But that is just me. I don't know for sure. And contrary to what you think, if I saw a family member, I would very much speak to them about what I had on my mind. They may not listen, but it would make me feel better. But that is just me. I know it is a huge reponsibility to raise children. And I agreee with you, raising children as famous as MJ's will exponentially increase that load. But parents, even though their intentions are the best, will not always act in the best interests if their children. That is what is a fact. There are just some who think this may be one of those occasions.

But it is something that the future will reveal. We will all have to see how this unfolds.

^^^I was going to say most of what you said after I read the John Lucas post, but I see you beat me to it. We have to keep reminding people that disagreeing with the decisions/plans/behaviors etc. that a person makes, DOES NOT MEAN WE HATE THE PERSON OR ARE DISRESPECTING THEM. Can we stick this at the top of the thread?

Sorry for double posting!!!

[MJ_Jordan]

I don't know if they broadcast Oprah over there, but surely just like the LMP interview, it will be on Youtube within a few hours after the airing of the show..


It'll have to be YouTube for us lot, Oprah airs on some rather obselete Sky channel.

Thanks :)

[Stranger]

Sigh

I just don't know what to feel anymore. I've tried to keep out of the family's decisions because as outsiders, we don't really know anything. But everything just feels so hopeless. I try and say a prayer for the children (and Katherine) every night, and I know other people do the same, but honestly, what is the point, when the family keeps on making these terrible decisions?

All I know is Michael didn't want this. That's for sure. He was at his lowest point and still, he did not use his children to improve his image. Sure, maybe the children WANT to speak out, but I just don't see how that means anything. How can an 8 year old be sure about this?

And why Oprah? Randy seems to know her decade-long stance on MJ, so why didnt he share that information with his mother? Doesn't she know how Oprah treated him? I'm sure she does, but that makes it worse. Does she not even care? But MJ loved his mother and trusted her to make the right choices. So what does that mean?

Why can't Michael be here to sort this out? Randy is right about one thing. Michael would not have wanted the kids near Oprah.

As someone else said, we're just useless fans. What right do we have to say or do anything? Although, I suspect we care more about the kids than the likes of Oprah. And there's nothing anyone can do is there? It really happened and we just have to deal with it.

[PCR]

It's incredible what just one picture can do. All the pain it can bring, the harsh words, the painful memories.
We love Michael and in doing so, we love and respect him and what he loved. He loved his children the most. And he loved his mother too. Sure he loved his family.
But let's agree it's difficult to remain calm when you see how some of the ones he loved the most are being used by the others.
I just hope this will come and go soon, same as the LMP issue.

The worst side of it, as it was already said, once you open the door to media, you are just fooling yourself if you think you can close it and keep them away from you again.

Don't go asking for privacy again, Jacksons... for it's YOU who are inviting the monsters to your own table. Michael tried his best to deal with this and see what they did. Do you think you can be better than Michael at this?

Some people never learn. Or some just don't want to learn :no:

[Ashtanga]

The worst side of it, as it was already said, once you open the door to media, you are just fooling yourself if you think you can close it and keep them away from you again.

Don't go asking for privacy again, Jacksons... for it's YOU who are inviting the monsters to your own table. Michael tried his best to deal with this and see what they did. Do you think you can be better than Michael at this?

Some people never learn. Or some just don't want to learn :no:

:agree:

Sooooooooooo true.... :(

[ExoticPrincess]

I'm GLAD Katherine's taking it to the head. Go right directly TO Oprah & set her ass straight once & for all. Maybe that heifer will start coming correct when she talks about Michael in the future.


Are you kidding? Katherine setting Oprah's behind straight? Oprah will present what she wants to present to the viewing audience and theres nothing Katherine or anyone else will be able to do about it.

[prettygirlmj]

I found this macro at a blog website. Had to post it here

http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/4883/42744070.jpg

[Memefan]

^ Perfect...and I agree.

Do you have the link to the blog. I would like to read & support whoever took the time to put down their feelings on this latest saga.

[Vici]

lol at the pic above.. "offenders to the left"

[Tyga]

I would love to see his children. I don't think I ever heard Blanket speak before. I will definately record this.

[prettygirlmj]

^ Perfect...and I agree.

Do you have the link to the blog. I would like to read & support whoever took the time to put down their feelings on this latest saga.

I'll PM you where I got it from.

[souldreamer7]

And Katherine did say in one of her recent interviews that she never liked that Michael covered the children's faces. So she's probably just doing what she thinks is right as their legal guardian (or being manipulated by Joe, et al). She is their guardian, not Oprah, not us.

I think the kids will be fine. It's just a talk show appearance. It's not like they are on stage performing in a singing group (although we know Joe would love that, heh).

Yeah but the only thing is that it makes it seem to the public that Michael never had intentions to take those masks off the Kids.. when in late 08' early 09 you did see the kids w/out the masks on in pictures and Michael did say he would take them off when the kids was ready..I believe he would have. I just think that part in the interview made it seem like Michael was 'crazy' and didn't have any sense about his own kids. Which he did.

[Moonwalker.Fan]

Ill wait for YouTube vids..., I am very curious...

[Moonwalker.Fan]

BTW, I agree with that from TMZ comments:

I'll bet that a whole lot of people will suddenly start thinking that Michael was a child molester just because of the timing of this show.

I think that if fans were not so passionate with Oprah and her molestation shows, most of the average viewers would not see such a connection with Michael, thats true...!

Now its all over the net... Oprah and MJs kids vs. the molestation shows..., the less attention the better for MJ!

[CherubimII]

It is a pity that none of Michael's sisters seem to have any interest in helping Katherine make decisions about Michael's children.
I guess we are just now finding out something Michael Jackson always knew.
Pray that God will make the interview of Michael's children
turn into a blessing for them. :angel:

[GinnyJackson]

So out of all the posts here it seems like the lot of you think that Mama Kat is MAKING PP&B sit down with Oprah and talk.... Does anyone here think these kids can think for themselves? I mean these kids DO have a mind of their own and can use it. If they themselves feel that they are strong enough to sit in the presents of the devil herself then i think these kids are built for anything.


I do think they can think for them self and i think they can make up their own minds on wither they want to talk about their dad or not. We are in no position to say what they should or shouldn't do. We are not their keeper and we have no say in their life. We know what their dad wanted. We know he wanted to keep them out of the press and media. But things have changed. We don't know what is going on, we don't know if Kathrine asked them what they thought or if they wanted to take part in this interview Clearly they wanted to. IT IS UP TO THEM not us.
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[CherubimII]

Part of being a child of 13 or 12 or 8 years old is that your mind like your body is not fully developed.
Thus, every minor child (less than 18 years old) must have an adult parent or guardian who can make decisions for them.

[ivy]

So out of all the posts here it seems like the lot of you think that Mama Kat is MAKING PP&B sit down with Oprah and talk.... Does anyone here think these kids can think for themselves? I mean these kids DO have a mind of their own and can use it. If they themselves feel that they are strong enough to sit in the presents of the devil herself then i think these kids are built for anything.


I do think they can think for them self and i think they can make up their own minds on wither they want to talk about their dad or not. We are in no position to say what they should or shouldn't do. We are not their keeper and we have no say in their life. We know what their dad wanted. We know he wanted to keep them out of the press and media. But things have changed. We don't know what is going on, we don't know if Kathrine asked them what they thought or if they wanted to take part in this interview Clearly they wanted to. IT IS UP TO THEM not us.



I think I wrote this before "if they want to do it then it's okay" doesn't make sense to me. If we had gone with that logic then every child would be playing computer games rather than studying or eating desserts rather than vegetables. You don't let your kids be out at midnight with strangers just because they want to , right? Sure the kids can think for themselves but that doesn't mean that what a child want might necessarily be the best thing for them, that's why we have something called an adult supervision.

Also there's an important question that needs to be asked here even if we go with "they wanted to do it" theory.

Are we assuming that they know EVERYTHING that Oprah said about their dad and STILL wanted to take part?

or

Are we assuming that they just know Oprah as the nice famous TV host lady that came to their house and wanted to take part?

There's a whole a lot of difference between the two possibilities in my book.

Even if they were given the choice and made their own decisions to participate in Oprah's show but they didn't know the whole background info of Oprah and how she treated their father then it would still be misguiding the children as they weren't allowed to make an informed decision.

[Petrarose]

Part of being a child of 13 or 12 or 8 years old is that your mind like your body is not fully developed.
Thus, every minor child (less than 18 years old) must have an adult parent or guardian who can make decisions for them.

^^^This has been said in so many different ways in this thread; however, many seem to not understand it. There seem to be some misunderstanding between the role of adult guardianship vs children's intelligence and wishes. The result is that some think that if a child is smart enough or want to do a particular thing, then it is ok for the child to do it regardless of the child's minor age. To those who think in this way, it is ok for Michael's children to be on Oprah because they are intelligent.

I think that what will happen after the interview, is that we will have those who like it and give reasons such as the children looked happy, they spoke well, Catherine spoke about Michael in a positive way, the children showed that Michael was a good dad, etc. Then we will have those who look at the broader moral, ethical, social, etc., underpinnings of the interview and will dissect the interview in a broader way.

[max000]

Mjjc staff always warns that the media monitors this board. TMZ is guilty, they off and running with fans reaction to OPRAH'S molestation/katherine shows. Not good at all.

Just stuck another pin in OPRAH'S voodoo doll.

[Sophielo]

Mjjc staff always warns that the media monitors this board. TMZ is guilty, they off and running with fans reaction to OPRAH'S molestation/katherine shows. Not good at all.

Just stuck another pin in OPRAH'S voodoo doll.

Yes, this is true. Everyone noticed what the show was scheduled against and discussed it as its important to discuss for obvious reasons. Was it a co-incidence or not? Yet a few days later TMZ adds the same thing to their site. This is why we just ask people to be careful with what they write as yes the media has spies that monitor us and other boards as well. Hopefully with TMZ picking it up the Jackson family will make a complaint about it but highly doubt they will.

[JMie]

Found this gif. Basically sums up how I feel.

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/7465/23955htl3dbsl.gif

[mjdove]

Found this gif. Basically sums up how I feel.

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/7465/23955htl3dbsl.gif

:agree:

[mj_obsession]

Found this gif. Basically sums up how I feel.

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/7465/23955htl3dbsl.gif

That's a little over the top.

[bluetopez]

It's a shame some of the Jacksons trusted her to begin with! They complained about her doing this back in 05 and now she did it twice as bad! She did it with the LMP interview, doing it again with the special Jackie will be on and then the one Katherine will be on! If they don't complain about that, then how hypocritical of them! It doesn't make it all of a sudden okay because they will be on her show or is that the reason!? Hmmmf!

Even if she show MJ in a good light in the Katherine upcoming interview that doesn't taken away what she did! If they didn't like it then in 05 they have even more reason to hate it now because she made it be around every special relating to MJ and to me it's clear that was on purpose!

Why be fake about it trying to portray MJ in a alleged good light while thinking the worst happened!? Oprah should educate herself on the cases and then maybe she won't have to feel that way! So unbalanced when it comes to MJ! It's getting old! So much info out there and she chooses to ignore it! There is no excuse for it anymore! It's just plain ignorance & Hate!

[Memefan]

Found this gif. Basically sums up how I feel.

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/7465/23955htl3dbsl.gif


That's a little over the top.

Nope...it's not over the top.

People are exploiting his babies, you think he would go along with that.

Love the gif

[Tipareth]

^^^This has been said in so many different ways in this thread; however, many seem to not understand it. There seem to be some misunderstanding between the role of adult guardianship vs children's intelligence and wishes. The result is that some think that if a child is smart enough or want to do a particular thing, then it is ok for the child to do it regardless of the child's minor age. To those who think in this way, it is ok for Michael's children to be on Oprah because they are intelligent.

I think that what will happen after the interview, is that we will have those who like it and give reasons such as the children looked happy, they spoke well, Catherine spoke about Michael in a positive way, the children showed that Michael was a good dad, etc. Then we will have those who look at the broader moral, ethical, social, etc., underpinnings of the interview and will dissect the interview in a broader way.


This is true. One see a child that is happy and it's looking very intelligent, but that doesn't mean that certain challenges won't prove too hard, and in time won't do harm.

Humans got subconscious processes, and children might appear very ok after a big trauma, but deep down they can still hurt badly. Why pushing them in further stressful situations, or situations that they would look at them differently in few years...?

In my opinion those children entered into public attention too soon - 2 weeks after their father death, at memorial. Maybe it helped in some way, however was way too soon. Then the Grammies... That was totally unnecessary and again too soon... Why put them to collect awards for their father? Now this interview, even if they would appear shortly, why should they help to their father legacy? They can do it so well when they will be adults.



Meanwhile that legacy can be enforced by a united voice of the family, by them not going to tabloids, by stopping various stories about Mike being as manipulated, druggie puppet and fake interventions. Or about Omar, or etc It would be easier to do that. Mike children won't be necessary then.

Prince, Paris, Blanket only duty is to grow beautifully and harmoniously, not to help in the image of their father. For this, stories from third parties are enough, stories that tells us how smart, educated, good kids they are.

[wendijane]

(((huggs to paris))) (((huggs to prince))) (((huggs to blanket))) (((huggs to mrs jackson))) please feeel these huggs .x:praying:

[Laura.L.]

Found this gif. Basically sums up how I feel.

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/7465/23955htl3dbsl.gif

Brilliant!



Prince, Paris, Blanket only duty is to grow beautifully and harmoniously, not to help in the image of their father.

I couldn't agree more:agree:

[elusive moonwalker]

*yawn* at the attentin seaker airing the families dirty laundary in public again. funny how randy always sides with the way the wind is blowing ie the opinion of the fan comminutiy in order to suck up. this coming from the man who tried to get the j3 to F.l on the 25th so they could be photograhed with the tomb. pot kettle black.

[ginvid]

Yes, this is true. Everyone noticed what the show was scheduled against and discussed it as its important to discuss for obvious reasons. Was it a co-incidence or not? Yet a few days later TMZ adds the same thing to their site. This is why we just ask people to be careful with what they write as yes the media has spies that monitor us and other boards as well. Hopefully with TMZ picking it up the Jackson family will make a complaint about it but highly doubt they will.


Mjjc staff always warns that the media monitors this board. TMZ is guilty, they off and running with fans reaction to OPRAH'S molestation/katherine shows. Not good at all.

Just stuck another pin in OPRAH'S voodoo doll.

Actually an MJ group contacted TMZ. They have a story about it here:

http://www.tmz.com/2010/11/03/oprah-michael-jackson-fans-kids-interview-katherine-paris-blankey-prince-molestation-episode/

An official MJ fan group ain't buying Oprah's "purely coincidental" excuse -- telling us, they are "angry and disappointed" that she's airing her interview with MJ's kids days after a special on child molestation.



A rep for the Official Michael Jackson Fans of Southern California tells TMZ, “We are both angry and disappointed in Oprah’s constant need to reference child molestation shows prior to airing Michael Jackson related episodes. Her tone seems to speak volumes.”

Oprah called the whole thing "purely coincidental" ... but MJ fans aren't convinced. The rep adds, “How can something so obvious be a coincidence?"



As we previously reported, Oprah's big interview with Michael Jackson's children is scheduled to air next Monday -- three days after Friday's big show ... entitled "200 Adult Men Who Were Molested Come Forward."

They don't necessarily need to come to the boards. The fans go to them.

[Erikmjfan]

http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=786167232507

Oprah preview

[ginvid]

Oh boy... ^^^Thanks for posting.

[LoveMJackson]

I'm sick and tried of Oprah!

[xrisx]

Seeing that preview actually makes me kind of scared to watch it.
It looks like all the feelings of June 25th will come back up again.
I'm not sure if I can handle that.
I keep crying when it all get's brought up again, also knowing Oprah she will show all the ambulance stuff as well.
I think I'll wait and first hear from others who have watched it.

[dangerous2000watts]

I saw a blogger believes Joe Jacksob is behind this. Joe was already paid so Katherine and his children couldnt help have it. Good guessing huh? What do you think?

[Big Apple2]

Why the heck is Oprah "surprised" to see Joe Jackson there? I mean, was he invited or did he just show up.

I'll say one thing, it's NEVER a good idea for Joe Jackson to be interviewed. He stumbles and mumbles when he's on Larry King, I can only shudder when I think what Oprah Winfrey will do to him. Time will tell if she brings up the BEATINGS and we have all seen how Joe Jackson answers those types of questions, i.e. "not a good look for him."

Oy Vey!

[StacyJ]

Why the heck is Oprah "surprised" to see Joe Jackson there? I mean, was he invited or did he just show up.

I'll say one thing, it's NEVER a good idea for Joe Jackson to be interviewed. He stumbles and mumbles when he's on Larry King, I can only shudder when I think what Oprah Winfrey will do to him. Time will tell if she brings up the BEATINGS and we have all seen how Joe Jackson answers those types of questions, i.e. "not a good look for him."

Oy Vey!

Hi Big Apple!

I can't see the preview.. what does it show?

[JMie]

Hi Big Apple!

I can't see the preview.. what does it show?


it's Oprah asking Katherine about the last day if she knew in her heart and who told the children. Oprah also said that she once hoped to become Katherine's daughter-in-law. Then she asks Joe if he knew that Michael was afraid of him. And then they show the kids and the clip is over.

[ivy]

http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=786167232507

Oprah preview


Hi Big Apple!

I can't see the preview.. what does it show?

It goes like this

announcer : all new the world wide exclusive

(sitting in the library)

Oprah (to Katherine): I was hoping that you'll be my mother in law, did you know that?

Katherine and Oprah laughs

announcer : Oprah at home with Michael Jackson's mother Katherine

Oprah: When you heard "come to the hospital, it's Michael" , in your heart did you know?

Katherine sighs

Oprah: who told the children?

Oprah (voice over) : his father Joe

(sitting at the backyard table)

Oprah (to Joe) : I'm really surprised to see you here Mr. Jackson. Do you think he was afraid of you?

Oprah (voice over) : and a visit with his children

(shows pictures of the children at a dinner table and outside backyard table)

--------------------------------
note: entertainment tonight is also going to air a clip tonight

[Big Apple2]

Hi Big Apple!

I can't see the preview.. what does it show?

She starts by telling Ms. Katherine that "you were supposed to be my mother-in-law. did you know that." (I guess she is trying to butter Ms. Katherine up before she hits her with the REAL questions. Oprah thinks she's slick!)

She also ask "did you know?" (I have no idea where THAT question is leading! But it clearly is directed at knowing SOMETHING regarding Michael.) She ask about the day Michael went to the hospital and who told the children.

Then she tells Joe Jackson that she is "surprised to see him there." (What the heck does that mean?)

Then she ask Joe Jackson, either, "did you know Michael was afraid of you" or "was Michael afraid of you." (I can't remember how that question went, but either way, it's just not a good idea for Joe Jackson to be addressing those types of questions - AGAIN. He's just not good at answering questions, in my opinion).

The clip only shows the children, no questions are being asked during that time.

[CarleyMJ]

What Oprah wanted Katherine to be her Mother-In-Lawe...LMAO...Oprah go away REALLY!!!

[MJJ:G.O.A.T]

She starts by telling Ms. Katherine that "you were supposed to be my mother-in-law. did you know that." (I guess she is trying to butter Ms. Katherine up before she hits her with the REAL questions. Oprah thinks she's slick!)

She also ask "did you know?" (I have no idea where THAT question is leading! But it clearly is directed at knowing SOMETHING regarding Michael.) She ask about the day Michael went to the hospital and who told the children.

Then she tells Joe Jackson that she is "surprised to see him there." (What the heck does that mean?)

Then she ask Joe Jackson, either, "did you know Michael was afraid of you" or "was Michael afraid of you." (I can't remember how that question went, but either way, it's just not a good idea for Joe Jackson to be addressing those types of questions - AGAIN. He's just not good at answering questions, in my opinion).

The clip only shows the children, no questions are being asked during that time.

Katherine looked sad when Oprah was asking her about Michael. As for telling Joe that she's surprised to see him there, maybe she did some research and heard that he's living in Las Vegas.

I do agree that it's not a good idea for Joe to be answering "do you think Michael was afraid of you?" type questions. You are right; he doesn't answer them well and he's already been asked them before. I wouldn't be surprised if she ventured into the whole beating thing again. Interesting that the kids weren't there when she asked that. The background music was a bit dramatic...

[Big Apple2]

I do agree that it's not a good idea for Joe to be answering "do you think Michael was afraid of you?" type questions. You are right; he doesn't answer them well and he's already been asked them before. I wouldn't be surprised if she ventured into the whole beating thing again. Interesting that the kids weren't there when she asked that. The background music was a bit dramatic...

You know Oprah will ENJOY putting Joe Jackson on the spot. She "might" not want to go hard on Ms. Katherine, but she will feel free to go for Joe Jackson's jugular!

I'm also thinking that the children will only be there for a very small portion of the interview.(Although, I wish they weren't apart of this interview at all.)

I am, however, wondering if the OTHER young people who live in the home will also, at some point, be a part of the discussion. There is one moment wherein it looks like Paris is sitting at the dinner table, I'm wondering if the other young members of the household are also in attendance at the dinner table, which I guess would lighten up that portion of the interview.

I guess time will tell.

[blankyluvdoodoo]

i am really tired of this helpless feeling .:no:

[CherubimII]

My friends, be at peace. :angel:
It is Oprah Winfrey who is in jepardy, not Michael Jackson's children: Prince, Paris,a and Blanket.

In the Bible, acording to Matthew Chapter 18:1-10

<SUP class=versenum id=en-NIV-23729>1</SUP> At that time the disciples came to Jesus and asked, “Who, then, is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven?”

<SUP class=versenum id=en-NIV-23730>2</SUP> He called a little child to him, and placed the child among them. <SUP class=versenum id=en-NIV-23731>3</SUP> And he said: “Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. <SUP class=versenum id=en-NIV-23732>4</SUP> Therefore, whoever takes the lowly position of this child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven. <SUP class=versenum id=en-NIV-23733>5</SUP> And whoever welcomes one such child in my name welcomes me. <SUP class=versenum id=en-NIV-23734>6</SUP> “If anyone causes one of these little ones—those who believe in me—to stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea.

<SUP class=versenum id=en-NIV-23735>7</SUP> Woe to the world because of the things that cause people to stumble! Such things must come, but woe to the person through whom they come! <SUP class=versenum id=en-NIV-23736>8</SUP> If your hand or your foot causes you to stumble, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to enter life maimed or crippled than to have two hands or two feet and be thrown into eternal fire. <SUP class=versenum id=en-NIV-23737>9</SUP> And if your eye causes you to stumble, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to enter life with one eye than to have two eyes and be thrown into the fire of hell.

<SUP class=versenum id=en-NIV-23738>10</SUP> “See that you do not despise one of these little ones. For I tell you that their angels in heaven always see the face of my Father in heaven.

[MsCassieMollie]

http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=786167232507

Oprah preview

SMH. I just hope and pray this interview will at least be overall positive.

and I hope that the kids scenes will be short and hopefully this will be the last public appearance for the kids in a LONG time...

[cleopatra09]

Michael Jackson's brother Randy said: 'I found out Oprah was at our family home, my stomach ached and it still hasn't gone away. 'It was deliberately kept from me because they knew I would've tried to stop it.
'I know how Oprah feels about my brother and family. I know he would not have wanted this.'

[MsCassieMollie]

I think Oprah asking Mama Kat that she was gonna be her daughter-in-law is maybe b/c she had a childhood crush on Jackie.

[TheDangerousFan]

So who is next in Oprah's list to interview. Maybe Latoya? http://discopantsandhaircuts.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/throw-up.jpg
I'm so freaking tired reading about Oprah that, Oprah this...

[Moonwalker.Fan]

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[angelofinnocence]

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hmm, interesting comment about Joe from Oprah.
Thanks for posting.

[Moonwalker.Fan]

http://i51.tinypic.com/2hcevx4.jpg

[MsCassieMollie]

So Oprah has a backyard visit with MJ's kids and the dining room? I just hope the kids will be featured for a short time...

[Lucilla]

Oprah (to Joe) : I'm really surprised to see you here Mr. Jackson.



fake as a 3 dollar bill &lt;_&lt;

[MsCassieMollie]

fake as a 3 dollar bill &lt;_&lt;

Yep yep.

[Sophielo]

These pictures break my heart to see, it really does :(

[Ashtanga]

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http://i51.tinypic.com/2hcevx4.jpg

:no:

It's soooooooooo unbelievable.... :doh: Oprah is so false. :puke: :mat:

God, I wonder when PPB get older and know what Oprah said about Michael in the past and look at this interview... I'm sure they will feel so bad about it. :(

I feel very bad.... *big sigh*


:cry:

[mj_obsession]

http://i51.tinypic.com/2hcevx4.jpg

What's this new obsession everyone has with watermarking photos that are freely available? Ridiculous!

[JMie]

Seeing Paris smiling at Oprah just shows what a cheerful and polite girl she is. Michael raised his kids well.

It breaks my heart to think what PPB will feel when they grow up and find out the truth about Oprah and some other people around them...

[LisaU123]

Seeing Paris smiling at Oprah just shows what a cheerful and polite girl she is. Michael raised his kids well.

It breaks my heart to think what PPB will feel when they grow up and find out the truth about Oprah and some other people around them...

Your right she is polite and sweet. I am sure they will feel fine and realize everyone has a right to their opinion! They seem to like to live like their father out of L.O.V.E and hopefully that will continue.

[ExoticPrincess]

'I was surprised to see you here Mr. Jackson.....'

Lord, this will be interesting. Wonder why she asked that question in particular? For some reason I don't see her going easy on Joe.

[Billie_Jean09]

Katherine's eyes.................... just look at her eyes.........makes me wanna cry. :cry:
Can really see Michael in her eyes. :wub:

[sharon007]

So Oprah has a backyard visit with MJ's kids and the dining room? I just hope the kids will be featured for a short time...

I doubt it she wanted to interview the kids all along but she had to get through to Katherine to do that and when she did she go the interview that everyone wants to see.

[Ms.MJ Fan2007]

Well I don't care what nobody says about Oprah during interview about MJ but I'm still going to wacth it who else?

[noumene]

Prince, Paris, Blanket only duty is to grow beautifully and harmoniously, not to help in the image of their father.
Exactly.

[Lucilla]

I was surprised to see you here Mr. Jackson.....'

I think with this statement she want us and everyone to believe that Joe has nothing to do with this interview.
Why?
Because is not going to look good for her, if the audience feel she's having this interview thanks to Joe. That's what I think.

[ilmjj]

These pictures break my heart to see, it really does :(

Me too!! i can't help but think about everything Michael went through for these kids. He tried so hard to protect them and keep them safe. I don't think I will be able to watch. It hurts too much...:no:

[ForeverKOP]

She seems like she's going to be really stern towards Joe...
At the end of the preview, why does it says "Today's Oprah"...is the show airing today now?

[kristinaz]

She seems like she's going to be really stern towards Joe...
At the end of the preview, why does it says "Today's Oprah"...is the show airing today now?

That's what I was wondering as well.

[riviera1992]

Just the tone of this clip made me cringe. She's trying to make Katherine cry (and us).

Asking Joe what he's doing there? Hummmm.

Joe should answer back: "Funny, I was gonna ask you the same thing?

[Petrarose]

Just the tone of this clip made me cringe. She's trying to make Katherine cry (and us).

Asking Joe what he's doing there? Hummmm.

Joe should answer back: "Funny, I was gonna ask you the same thing?




Ha Ha that's really funny. I wish he did, but she would edit it of course.

[Lucilla]

Just the tone of this clip made me cringe. She's trying to make Katherine cry (and us).

Asking Joe what he's doing there? Hummmm.

Joe should answer back: "Funny, I was gonna ask you the same thing?

haha! good one :)

[bluetopez]

Oprah wanted Katherine to be her mother-in-law?! But, she don't even like Michael! But, now she wanted to be his sister-on-law? Get the F*** out of here!

[prettygirlmj]

ET is airing something in a few sec's.

[ginvid]

^^What did they say?

[8701girl]

Oprah wanted Katherine to be her mother-in-law?! But, she don't even like Michael! But, now she wanted to be his sister-on-law? Get the F*** out of here!


Oh dear god no :doh:

[Desired.]

All I have to say about all of this is.. 'why?' :no:



^^What did they say?


^ They didn't say a whole lot. They just showed the preview/commercial, and that backyard photo of them while explaning what they were wearing, their hair, etc.. and mentioned that Prince & Paris go to school, but that Blanket is still homeschooled.

[ginvid]

Thank you!

[mimi0]

I agree why oprah!!! so stupid!!! I hate her!

[Naturelle]

This is true. One see a child that is happy and it's looking very intelligent, but that doesn't mean that certain challenges won't prove too hard, and in time won't do harm.

Humans got subconscious processes, and children might appear very ok after a big trauma, but deep down they can still hurt badly. Why pushing them in further stressful situations, or situations that they would look at them differently in few years...?

In my opinion those children entered into public attention too soon - 2 weeks after their father death, at memorial. Maybe it helped in some way, however was way too soon. Then the Grammies... That was totally unnecessary and again too soon... Why put them to collect awards for their father? Now this interview, even if they would appear shortly, why should they help to their father legacy? They can do it so well when they will be adults.



Meanwhile that legacy can be enforced by a united voice of the family, by them not going to tabloids, by stopping various stories about Mike being as manipulated, druggie puppet and fake interventions. Or about Omar, or etc It would be easier to do that. Mike children won't be necessary then.

Prince, Paris, Blanket only duty is to grow beautifully and harmoniously, not to help in the image of their father. For this, stories from third parties are enough, stories that tells us how smart, educated, good kids they are.

They are way too young to be in the spot light and still have a lot of growing to do. Prince and Pareis are entering puberty which bring about so many new emotional behaviors. They may have said, "sure, I would like to be on the show", not even knowing the dynamics of Oprah's covert activities. Blanket however, hasn't gone through that state yet and is still very young minded.

It breaks my heart to see Katherine tearing up. This whole mess was uncalled for.
As far as Oprah in the past being Katherine's daughter-in-law...pft, that was bait to get to an interview with Katherine. Can you imagine Jakie and Opra as a couple? Hell naw... Oprah is a would have been running Havenhurst and the story would have played out very differently. My opinion. :stink::sigh: Oprah never wanted a man if so, she would have had and kept one. She is too controlling and she wiggled her way in the Havenhurst home. She's not stupid :scratch:

[Petrarose]

^^The part about Jackie and Oprah as a couple--brings tears of laughter to my eyes. We know why she brought up that point now and not years ago. Oprah has an agenda related to Michael and it is not a very pretty one unfortunately. I know she would be polite to Katherine; still I do not like her using the children to induce excitement about the show. I wonder if she considers that ABUSE, since she uses the word loosely.

[Naturelle]

I heard the Glenda tapes.
I STILL say Michael ain't what he is without his family.
Neither am I. Neither are you. Neither is anybody.

Oh sure Michael learned & took himself further. But he couldn't have gotten there without his family to nurture him & teach him.

I'd love to see a newborn baby raise himself. I'd love to see a fetus form without a mother's womb.
The fact is in life NOBODY did it all themselves. We are all interdependent.

Did you know that one of Michael's early singing influences was his big brother Jermaine? Yeah that Jermaine the fans love to run down all the time.

Did you know that Michael credits Joe for his upbringing as much as he laments over the emotional pain it caused?

Without Katherine & Joseph Jackson there would literally BE no Jackson 5, thus there would be no Michael Jackson. And I ain't talking about just giving birth. I'm talking about parenting, raising, creating that family bond, discipline, nurturing, feeding, clothing, washing, teaching.

When you grow up, you go your own way & make your own choices. But before you do that, you gotta have that foundation to start from. Buildings don't form from the middle up. They form from the bottom up. It don't start from the sky. It starts from ground zero.

Without Katherine's influence & Joe's drive, how do you think Michael would have turned out? He might have been an arrogant lazy SOB. That perfectionism we enjoy from Michael comes from Joe. That kindness we love from him comes from Katherine. His want to be like Jesus comes all those days in Kingdom Hall where Katherine chose to keep him in church rather than them Gary streets. His belief in the impossible becoming possible (I will sell 20 million records) came from Joe refusing to let their dreams become small.

And when those Glenda tapes were made Michael was a much younger person who didn't have his own kids yet. But you see him in those Bashir outtakes & that Geraldo interview & see how he now understands more about his parents ways now that he's become a parent. That's how it usually happens.

Joe & Katherine sheltered their kids from the harsh Gary streets through music & church. Michael sheltered his kids from the harsh glare of fame with masks & home schooling. The details are different but the theme is the same.

Rebbie was little mama making sure Michael ate his collard greens.
Jackie stayed on Michael's butt to do his homework.
Tito was the one who exampled that Michael could show his talent when he took out the guitar.
Jermaine was the big brother that he looked up to.
LaToya was the big sister to tease & make fun with.
Marlon was Michael's little buddy to run around play with.
Randy was little brother who he could protect & look out for.
Janet was little sister who he could inspire & share like minds.

His family shaped the very person he was. What did Michael do—even as late as This Is It—every time it came to the J5 medley? He called out the names of his brothers, one by one in the spotlight. Michael knew that he could not be if it wasn't for the Jackson 5. He knew he could not be if it weren't for his family.

I don't care how many times they fell out with each other or fussed or argued or whatever. At the end of the day, he knew family was important. It doesn't matter about professionally. Personally is all that mattered.

Some of these fans have really got it twisted. I'm here to straighten you out.
John Lucas

I agree 100% :agree:

[Autumn II]

Michael is gone, but his children remain, and they should be our focus, now. I doubt they know the history of Oprah, and her legacy of abuse of their father. They are intelligent, but are simply not old enough to be able to make these kinds of informed choices.

These precious children should NEVER have been included in this interview. The stance of their father was NOT ambiguous, and we KNOW it. They were to be kept out of the public eye, and not robbed of their childhoods, as he was.

Whatever we can do to see this NEVER happens again, we should do, in Michael's memory, and for those precious kids he left behind.