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prettygirlmj
05-11-2010, 04:02 AM
There's no way those kids have any idea what Oprah did to their father because if they did, they wouldn't have sat down and talked to her.
Goodness, I just hope these kids come out alright. I can picture these kids wandering around angry their whole lives...
Look at what Lisa Marie went through and her dad wasn't nowhere near as bait for the press as Michael was. Her teen years were drowned in drugs and pain. Look at the Osbourne kids. There's so many 'celebrity kids' examples out there. Damn.
I just hope they go the right path that their dad was taking them. But seeing how they are being used for anything that's about their dad, the future *can* be bleak. I hope they get good counceling. I hope Michael had a journal so his kids can read it or something....
For god sakes, someone give those kids to Diana Ross. :rolleyes:
suzynyc
05-11-2010, 06:57 AM
Oprah wanted Katherine to be her mother-in-law?! But, she don't even like Michael! But, now she wanted to be his sister-on-law? Get the F*** out of here!
She only said that because as a teen she was on love with Jackie Jackson (see today's show with Jackie Jackson as Oprah's surprise date) and she has said many times throughout the years on her show (including to Michael himself) that her goal when she was a kid was to Marry Jackie Jackson. Thus the remark (I assume facetiously) about wanting Katherine to be her mother-in-law.
Glanni
05-11-2010, 07:03 AM
oprah is airing a special about grown ups who got molested as children right before the interview???
WTF oprah!?!?!?! its NO coincident. its television. EVERYTHING is planned. its manipulating. you are the master of manipulating. I HATE YOU!!!!!! like i hate L.M.P. as well!
sad world with the media and its 2 actors who are you!!!!!
marc_vivien
05-11-2010, 07:08 AM
I have found this on an other site, but I don't know if true :
According to Gayle King (on her satellite radio show) Oprah did NOT "court" or seek out the Jackson's in any way, it was Marc Schaffel (porn producer/KJ biz partner) who CONTACTED the Oprah team. Oprah & her team were planning an episode on "Teen Heartthrobs" (which coincidentally aired today) and when Oprah was a kid her "crush" was Jackie Jackson. The ONLY call Oprah's team made was to Jackie to see if he would participate.
Days later the Oprah producer assigned to the Jackie Jackson segment received a phone call and faxed letter from Marc Schaffel on behalf of Joe & Katherine Jackson pitching an interview for KJ's book about MJ. THE OPRAH TEAM REJECTED THE PITCH FROM MARC SHAFFEL, JOE, & KJ saying thanks but no thanks.
A few days after Oprah's team turned them down Marc Schaffel contacted them again to say that "Mr. & Mrs. Jackson would 'sweeten' the deal and allow Oprah an 'exclusive' interview w/ the children of MJ if she would agree to feature KJ on her show." According to Gayle, there was MUCH debate between the producers whether or not to do the show. Gayle said the Oprah team is taking great care in the way they are featuring the kids. She said Schaffel made it clear to producers that the Jackson's were willing to leverage the children to promote their biz ventures to other outlets.
LoveMJackson
05-11-2010, 07:12 AM
oprah is airing a special about grown ups who got molested as children right before the interview???
WTF oprah!?!?!?! its NO coincident. its television. EVERYTHING is planned. its manipulating. you are the master of manipulating.
100% agree!
bowen9999
05-11-2010, 08:14 AM
I have found this on an other site, but I don't know if true :
According to Gayle King (on her satellite radio show) Oprah did NOT "court" or seek out the Jackson's in any way, it was Marc Schaffel (porn producer/KJ biz partner) who CONTACTED the Oprah team. Oprah & her team were planning an episode on "Teen Heartthrobs" (which coincidentally aired today) and when Oprah was a kid her "crush" was Jackie Jackson. The ONLY call Oprah's team made was to Jackie to see if he would participate.
Days later the Oprah producer assigned to the Jackie Jackson segment received a phone call and faxed letter from Marc Schaffel on behalf of Joe & Katherine Jackson pitching an interview for KJ's book about MJ. THE OPRAH TEAM REJECTED THE PITCH FROM MARC SHAFFEL, JOE, & KJ saying thanks but no thanks.
A few days after Oprah's team turned them down Marc Schaffel contacted them again to say that "Mr. & Mrs. Jackson would 'sweeten' the deal and allow Oprah an 'exclusive' interview w/ the children of MJ if she would agree to feature KJ on her show." According to Gayle, there was MUCH debate between the producers whether or not to do the show. Gayle said the Oprah team is taking great care in the way they are featuring the kids. She said Schaffel made it clear to producers that the Jackson's were willing to leverage the children to promote their biz ventures to other outlets.
:bugeyed Do you have a link to the site?
bluetopez
05-11-2010, 08:21 AM
She only said that because as a teen she was on love with Jackie Jackson (see today's show with Jackie Jackson as Oprah's surprise date) and she has said many times throughout the years on her show (including to Michael himself) that her goal when she was a kid was to Marry Jackie Jackson. Thus the remark (I assume facetiously) about wanting Katherine to be her mother-in-law.
I know this already! And I still didn't like hearing it!
To me when Oprah did the 93 special it was clear she didn't get Michael! The way she ask her questions were just silly! Asking him does he bleach his skin...:bugeyed and is his skin that why cause he don't want to be black! :doh: She asked that way because she too believe the rumors!
She thought it was like real freaking bleach...:smilerolleyes: u know products for like floors or clothes!:doh: She implied someone needs lots of them to be able to do that to themselves!:bugeyed She even talks about seeing bleach in commercials, then sings a jingle while MJ looks at her with amazement! And he then response to her all upset!
She also admitted that she thought she would see animals running around inside his home too!:mello:
Then after the allegations she got him even less!:no: She may love Jacket but, she doesn't even tries to understand MJ!:( So there for I don't love or understand her!-_-
bluetopez
05-11-2010, 08:27 AM
I have found this on an other site, but I don't know if true :
According to Gayle King (on her satellite radio show) Oprah did NOT "court" or seek out the Jackson's in any way, it was Marc Schaffel (porn producer/KJ biz partner) who CONTACTED the Oprah team. Oprah & her team were planning an episode on "Teen Heartthrobs" (which coincidentally aired today) and when Oprah was a kid her "crush" was Jackie Jackson. The ONLY call Oprah's team made was to Jackie to see if he would participate.
Days later the Oprah producer assigned to the Jackie Jackson segment received a phone call and faxed letter from Marc Schaffel on behalf of Joe & Katherine Jackson pitching an interview for KJ's book about MJ. THE OPRAH TEAM REJECTED THE PITCH FROM MARC SHAFFEL, JOE, & KJ saying thanks but no thanks.
A few days after Oprah's team turned them down Marc Schaffel contacted them again to say that "Mr. & Mrs. Jackson would 'sweeten' the deal and allow Oprah an 'exclusive' interview w/ the children of MJ if she would agree to feature KJ on her show." According to Gayle, there was MUCH debate between the producers whether or not to do the show. Gayle said the Oprah team is taking great care in the way they are featuring the kids. She said Schaffel made it clear to producers that the Jackson's were willing to leverage the children to promote their biz ventures to other outlets.
:bugeyed OMFG....:mello: Where is a link? If this is true how despicable!:no: If not then the Jacksons needs to speak up because they just throw them under the bus!
Tipareth
05-11-2010, 10:53 AM
I have found this on an other site, but I don't know if true :
According to Gayle King (on her satellite radio show) Oprah did NOT "court" or seek out the Jackson's in any way, it was Marc Schaffel (porn producer/KJ biz partner) who CONTACTED the Oprah team. Oprah & her team were planning an episode on "Teen Heartthrobs" (which coincidentally aired today) and when Oprah was a kid her "crush" was Jackie Jackson. The ONLY call Oprah's team made was to Jackie to see if he would participate.
Days later the Oprah producer assigned to the Jackie Jackson segment received a phone call and faxed letter from Marc Schaffel on behalf of Joe & Katherine Jackson pitching an interview for KJ's book about MJ. THE OPRAH TEAM REJECTED THE PITCH FROM MARC SHAFFEL, JOE, & KJ saying thanks but no thanks.
A few days after Oprah's team turned them down Marc Schaffel contacted them again to say that "Mr. & Mrs. Jackson would 'sweeten' the deal and allow Oprah an 'exclusive' interview w/ the children of MJ if she would agree to feature KJ on her show." According to Gayle, there was MUCH debate between the producers whether or not to do the show. Gayle said the Oprah team is taking great care in the way they are featuring the kids. She said Schaffel made it clear to producers that the Jackson's were willing to leverage the children to promote their biz ventures to other outlets.
To me this seems more like PR control. Oprah found out of some strong reactions MJ fans got, and suddenlly we found out this.
The bold text is so transparent, look how much attention is payed to stress that Oprah is taking great care of the kids. If this does not scream PR disaster control... well..... for me it's clear LOL
Big Apple2
05-11-2010, 12:03 PM
I have found this on an other site, but I don't know if true :
According to Gayle King (on her satellite radio show) Oprah did NOT "court" or seek out the Jackson's in any way, it was Marc Schaffel (porn producer/KJ biz partner) who CONTACTED the Oprah team. Oprah & her team were planning an episode on "Teen Heartthrobs" (which coincidentally aired today) and when Oprah was a kid her "crush" was Jackie Jackson. The ONLY call Oprah's team made was to Jackie to see if he would participate.
Days later the Oprah producer assigned to the Jackie Jackson segment received a phone call and faxed letter from Marc Schaffel on behalf of Joe & Katherine Jackson pitching an interview for KJ's book about MJ. THE OPRAH TEAM REJECTED THE PITCH FROM MARC SHAFFEL, JOE, & KJ saying thanks but no thanks.
A few days after Oprah's team turned them down Marc Schaffel contacted them again to say that "Mr. & Mrs. Jackson would 'sweeten' the deal and allow Oprah an 'exclusive' interview w/ the children of MJ if she would agree to feature KJ on her show." According to Gayle, there was MUCH debate between the producers whether or not to do the show. Gayle said the Oprah team is taking great care in the way they are featuring the kids. She said Schaffel made it clear to producers that the Jackson's were willing to leverage the children to promote their biz ventures to other outlets.
I wouldn't be surprised to find out this is actually true. I mean, let's be for real, an interview with JUST Ms. Katherine and Joe Jackson ain't gonna sell by itself.
First of all, Ms. Katherine already did that Dateline interview and it broke no "viewer" records and Joe Jackson is always talking to somebody. LOL! But now you add Michael's children to the mix and you have what they like to call "Must See TV."
I said it before and I'll say it again: "It's all about that book and being able to move copies." (I have a feeling that aside from a handful of MJ fans who visit his various sites, this book has not moved that many copies.)
Michael would be horrified, IF this story is true!
I was just watching Today show and they said that Katherine will be talking to Oprah about confronting Michael about his drug use. However let's take this with a grain of salt, they might have been repeating a tabloid article.
Big Apple2
05-11-2010, 12:11 PM
I was just watching Today show and they said that Katherine will be talking to Oprah about confronting Michael about his drug use. However let's take this with a grain of salt, they might have been repeating a tabloid article.
Oh Boy, here we go!
Now just to be clear (if this is truly the case), didn't Ms. Katherine ALREADY say something opposite to what The Today Show is reporting? If The Today Show's reporting is correct, Ms. Katherine is changing her story now. Is that correct?
Damn it damn it damn it. Once again addict in denial talk.
Today show just aired a snippet from the interview.
the below is approximately what they said (it's not word by word)
Oprah : did you talk to Michael about his addiction?
Katherine: I did once when I first heard about it. He denied it.
Oprah gives an ahh
Katherine : I said to him I don't want to see you overdose one day. And he said my own mother doesn't believe me.
ginvid
05-11-2010, 12:30 PM
I am sreaming so loudly. I knew it. I knew it. I don't understand their motive behind all of this. If what Gayle says is correct, and if Katherine falls into Oprahs' leading questions and paints MJ in a negative way, all to sell some book, I will have a conniption. Seriously! I am going to scream at the computer and stomp my feet. I guess that is all I can do. It is that helpless.
Big Apple2
05-11-2010, 12:36 PM
I am sreaming so loudly. I knew it. I knew it. I don't understand their motive behind all of this. If what Gayle says is correct, and if Katherine falls into Oprahs' leading questions and paints MJ in a negative way, all to sell some book, I will have a conniption. Seriously! I am going to scream at the computer and stomp my feet. I guess that is all I can do. It is that helpless.
Oh man! I feel exactly the same way.
I was still "trying" to hold out hope that Ms. Katherine would not fall for Oprah's tricks. I was holding out hope that Ms. Katherine would keep this interview positive.
Those who were thinking that Ms. Katherine would be putting Ms. Winfrey "in-check" are going to be sadly disappointed.
Is she changing her story because of her lawsuit against AEG?
StacyJ
05-11-2010, 12:38 PM
not shocked.. his own mother throwing him under the bus...
Justthefacts
05-11-2010, 12:42 PM
Not shocked there is nothing wrong with Mrs Jackson's answer but that question is clearly something she left opened ended on purpose
dupsy
05-11-2010, 12:42 PM
WHAT
Kathrine too,this family would do everything for money
I hope this is not the beginning of their commercialization.please lets pray for PPB,Michael why did you have to go?
Justthefacts
05-11-2010, 12:48 PM
There is nothing wrong with Mrs Jackson's answer
StacyJ
05-11-2010, 12:48 PM
Not shocked there is nothing wrong with Mrs Jackson's answer but that question is clearly something she left opened ended on purpose
what do you mean? is there more to the answer? did Katherine say more, and Oprah just used that snippet
ginvid
05-11-2010, 12:50 PM
I guess there is the very small hope that maybe Katherine will say, "But I did believe him and I still do. I didn't see anything wrong with him as far as drugs." Maybe she will tell the truth??? Maybe she will be the one that sticks up for him??
Of course if she denies drugs Oprah will not use that clip. It is counterproductive to what she wants to portray.
I have a small hope (a very small one) that this will still turn out ok. Please, please, turn out ok!
blankyluvdoodoo
05-11-2010, 12:51 PM
so much for setting record straight but still we need to wait for whole interview and after that we can give jackson family a final warning "we are done with u and all ur crap,OUR LOYALTIES ARE WITH MICHAEL AND NOW HIS KIDS ANY ONE OTHER THAN THAT CAN GO AND KICK A ROCK WITH THEIR BARE FEET ,WE ARE NOT GOING TO BUY CRAP FROM THAT FAMILY"
Big Apple2
05-11-2010, 12:54 PM
Once again Oprah Winfrey is getting exactly what she wanted and this time she's getting it from Katherine Jackson.
No offense, but the Jackson's are just not savvy enough to be doing interviews. I can see it now, Mrs. Jackson will be putty in Oprah's hands and only the drug related sound-bites will be replayed over and over again.
Corey Haim's mother was fully aware of her son's drug history, but that woman fought "tooth & nail" to protect her son from the media. I was hoping the Jackson's would have taken a page from her book. My bad for thinking that way!
Justthefacts
05-11-2010, 12:56 PM
If Mrs Jackson even goes there then there are some questions for her to answer
StacyJ
05-11-2010, 01:00 PM
Once again Oprah Winfrey is getting exactly what she wanted and this time she's getting it from Katherine Jackson.
No offense, but the Jackson's are just not savvy enough to be doing interviews. I can see it now, Mrs. Jackson will be putty in Oprah's hands and only the drug related sound-bites will be replayed over and over again.
Corey Haim's mother was fully aware of her son's drug history, but that woman fought "tooth & nail" to protect her son from the media. I was hoping the Jackson's would have taken a page from her book. My bad for thinking that way!
yup!!! it's just a shame
Big Apple2
05-11-2010, 01:00 PM
If Mrs Jackson even goes there then there are some questions for her to answer
And hopefully she won't contradict herself, because that's what happens when you give out interviews to different people.
What she said on Dateline needs to match up with what she said to Oprah Winfrey. If not, she will definitely be called on it and her book will collect cobwebs.
I'll say it again: "giving out multiple interviews is never a good idea, especially when you have lawsuits pending."
StacyJ
05-11-2010, 01:01 PM
If Mrs Jackson even goes there then there are some questions for her to answer
Didn't she already say she saw nothing different about MJ and he was always acting the same around her?
StacyJ
05-11-2010, 01:01 PM
And hopefully she won't contradict herself, because that's what happens when you give out interviews to different people.
What she said on Dateline needs to match up with what she said to Oprah Winfrey. If not, she will definitely be called on it.
By who? who's going to call her out?
Big Apple2
05-11-2010, 01:08 PM
By who? who's going to call her out?
Michael Jackson fans, who don't forget a thing. LOL!
And more importantly, the attorneys for AEG. Just like Murray's legal team, AEG's legal team is waiting and watching for any contradiction they can use. (And in my opinion, Murray's CIVIL team is already ahead of the game, because of Joe and Oxman's rush to file everything under the sun.)
This is exactly why any attorney worth his salt would advise their client to stay quiet, i.e. "NO INTERVIEWS, which can come back and haunt you at a later date." And I'm more than positive the Mr. Streisand has advised Katherine that interviews at this time are not a good idea.
But, well, she has to sell that book.
xrisx
05-11-2010, 01:10 PM
Again with the drug talk? She could say painkillers or whatever else but everyone knows "drugs'' has a more negative ring to it.
If Katherine changes her story I will give up hope for her and the kids. To me that would show they are indeed being influenced by others who do not have their best interest at heart.
It's just a shame that they all seem so willing to go along with the taloid version of events instead of using the actual autopsy report as their source.
And all of this just for a book....?
Thing is if the interview is edited to include negative stuff it will totally overshadow all the good news of the album next week. The media will run with that instead of the positive news of course. Just a shame really.
Not to mention the media/general public will probably pick apart his children once again (is he the father? do they look like one of the people who's claiming them?)
I don't think it's fair to the children to have to go through all of that. They may not be aware that those things could very well start to happen after this thing airs.
Now to be fair we haven't seen the interview yet so maybe we're all wrong and she did stand up for Michael in this interview. (eventhough hope is fading a little)
I still don't think I can handle seeing this interview straight away.
StacyJ
05-11-2010, 01:17 PM
I have no faith in Katherine standing up for her son... If she doesn't mention that Murray murdered her child then I'm officially done with her too.. .. I also thought Taj said this interview was going to be good and supportive of MJ
Big Apple2
05-11-2010, 01:26 PM
I have no faith in Katherine standing up for her son... If she doesn't mention that Murray murdered her child then I'm officially done with her too.. .. I also thought Taj said this interview was going to be good and supportive of MJ
I will say this, Ms. Katherine has the opportunity to turn the "drug" discussion around.
Oprah asked her if she knew about any drugs and Katherine said she asked him and he denied it. She can finish that response by saying:
AND ONCE I SAW HIS AUTOPSY REPORT, I REALIZED THAT HE WAS TELLING ME THE TRUTH!
If she is able to come back with an answer "similar" to that, my faith will be restored, because it will put the results of the autopsy report front and center, where it should be. Which will shut Ms. Winfrey and her line of questioning down.
xrisx
05-11-2010, 01:29 PM
I will say this, Ms. Katherine has the opportunity to turn the "drug" discussion around.
Oprah asked her if she knew about any drugs and Katherine said she asked him and he denied it. She can finish that response by saying:
AND ONCE I SAW HIS AUTOPSY REPORT, I REALIZED THAT HE WAS TELLING ME THE TRUTH!
If she is able to come back with an answer "similar" to that, my faith will be restored, because it will put the results of the autopsy report front and center, where it should be. Which will shut Ms. Winfrey and her line of questioning down.
Exactly, that is why I still have a little bit of hope left. I hope she will do that for Michael.
I guess we can't do anything but wait and see.
Justthefacts
05-11-2010, 01:45 PM
I don't think O will spend that much time on the drug talk depending on how Mrs Jackson answers questions like this one. If she makes it clear she saw nothing ESP since she has said that in the past she will move on
And he said my own mother doesn't believe me.
I really REALLY hope that what she said next was "I DID believe him".
Because only a few months ago she said that she never noticed anything and that he was always himself.
If Katherine will continue the drug talk after the rest of them, i don't know if I'll be able to handle it.
I won't handle it if this goes bad.
It would take another slow convalescence to live if I hear more bad things. Not when on the same occasion, those dear grieving children are on TV to speak about their dear deceased father.
And if it's true - the March Schaffel influence.... I don't even know what to say, that man is evil incarnate, one of the most evil beings that had ever had contact with Michael. That snake has got to stay away from the children, especially.
*praying... nothing else left to do*
marebear
05-11-2010, 02:40 PM
I saw the Today show snippet by chance and really they stopped at a certain point. After Katherine says she told Michael it would break her heart or kill her if she gets a call saying he overdosed etc. Then he says my own mother doesn't believe me they stopped the clip. What did she say to that? Michael did have issues a long time ago that he even admitted so maybe she heard it again and asked him to make sure he was okay.
Snow White luvs Peter Pan
05-11-2010, 02:40 PM
We saw previously that woman asked inproper (sp?) questions to Michael and Lisa so I'm pretty sure she did the same with Mrs. Jackson.
Besides the intervew was supportive according to Taj, Jackson family should had known and considered how Michael was treated by that woman in the hard times and also now she used his children for her ratings :puke:
ExoticPrincess
05-11-2010, 02:41 PM
I have found this on an other site, but I don't know if true :
According to Gayle King (on her satellite radio show) Oprah did NOT "court" or seek out the Jackson's in any way, it was Marc Schaffel (porn producer/KJ biz partner) who CONTACTED the Oprah team. Oprah & her team were planning an episode on "Teen Heartthrobs" (which coincidentally aired today) and when Oprah was a kid her "crush" was Jackie Jackson. The ONLY call Oprah's team made was to Jackie to see if he would participate.
Days later the Oprah producer assigned to the Jackie Jackson segment received a phone call and faxed letter from Marc Schaffel on behalf of Joe & Katherine Jackson pitching an interview for KJ's book about MJ. THE OPRAH TEAM REJECTED THE PITCH FROM MARC SHAFFEL, JOE, & KJ saying thanks but no thanks.
A few days after Oprah's team turned them down Marc Schaffel contacted them again to say that "Mr. & Mrs. Jackson would 'sweeten' the deal and allow Oprah an 'exclusive' interview w/ the children of MJ if she would agree to feature KJ on her show." According to Gayle, there was MUCH debate between the producers whether or not to do the show. Gayle said the Oprah team is taking great care in the way they are featuring the kids. She said Schaffel made it clear to producers that the Jackson's were willing to leverage the children to promote their biz ventures to other outlets.
Please, please, please tell me this is not true!?!?:bugeyed 'cause if it is, it would be such a betrayal to not only Michael but his children!
And again, why are they messin' around with Marc Schaffel???? I just don't get this! and to say that the Jackson's would be willing to 'leverage' the kids is outrageous!
I really need to hear this if Gayle indeed said it.
Big Apple2
05-11-2010, 02:56 PM
Michael did have issues a long time ago that he even admitted so maybe she heard it again and asked him to make sure he was okay.
You bring up another interesting point.
Ms. Katherine says that "she HEARD it." Heard it from whom, would be my question.
We all know that out of everybody in the Jackson family, Michael spent the most time with his mother. So my question would be, why would she need to hear it from somebody else. She was around Michael enough to have seen something, if there was something to see, in my opinion.
Sounds like, once again, somebody was whispering in Ms. Katherine's ear. I wonder who that person is?
marebear
05-11-2010, 03:18 PM
You bring up another interesting point.
Ms. Katherine says that "she HEARD it." Heard it from whom, would be my question.
We all know that out of everybody in the Jackson family, Michael spent the most time with his mother. So my question would be, why would she need to hear it from somebody else. She was around Michael enough to have seen something, if there was something to see, in my opinion.
Sounds like, once again, somebody was whispering in Ms. Katherine's ear. I wonder who that person is?
Somebody brought the issue up with her. Did she only talk to him about this once and that's it?
Moonwalker.Fan
05-11-2010, 03:53 PM
Another video preview....
http://www.usmagazine.com/celebritynews/news/michael-jacksons-mother-recalls-once-confronting-him-about-drugs-2010511#ooid=ZmZ3lzMTrqqrOHPY4Z6WKTfimgV1BKPa
CherubimII
05-11-2010, 04:17 PM
Evil has a name: "Oprah Winfrey".
Question: Do the Jacksons want Conrad Murray to walk free?
A thought in Passing....
"Anything for Money".
Big Apple2
05-11-2010, 04:20 PM
Another video preview....
Thanks for posting that clip.
Man, Mother Jackson is going to have to come HARD! She's gonna have to answer those "drug" related questions FULLY, leaving no room for speculation.
I look at that clip and I'm not sure Mother Jackson is up for the challenge. I hope I'm wrong!
Oprah was happy to jump on the "addictions" thing. I wonder if she will even touch upon the sleeping problems Michael had or whether Mother Jackson will bring them up on her own.
She needs to say, "I believed my son, because I spent a lot of time with him and I NEVER saw anything out of the ordinary." She said something similar on Dateline and she needs to say it again: LOUD & CLEAR!
xthunderx2
05-11-2010, 04:23 PM
Evil has a name: "Oprah Winfrey".
Question: Do the Jacksons want Conrad Murray to walk free?
A thought in Passing....
"Anything for Money".
I think inside,,,,they really do. There will never be justice for Michael. This is just so unbelievable. Oprah..is a horse.
Justthefacts
05-11-2010, 04:25 PM
I don't have a problem with how Mrs Jackson answered this question she is his Mother if she hears something yes she is going to ask about it. And it sounds like Michael got a little pissed at her for asking. This goes along with what Frank said when he asked Michael was he taken anything and it goes along with what Raymone said when she asked him for the second time about his will. Clearly Michael did not like being asked questions he thought were insulting. Michael are you doing drugs? No Mother I am not. I don;t want to see you overdose well that shows Michael IMO that you did not believe him and I can see him getting mad about it. And her asking was his Mother being worried
Justthefacts
05-11-2010, 04:28 PM
I think inside,,,,they really do. There will never be justice for Michael. This is just so unbelievable. Oprah..is a horse.
Ridiculous drug abuse has nothing to do with how Michael died. You are kidding yourself if you don't think the DA did not look at the drug issue front to back before filing charges. All of this drug still will be a wash and gone when this case starts
CherubimII
05-11-2010, 04:30 PM
I think inside,,,,they really do. There will never be justice for Michael. This is just so unbelievable. Oprah..is a horse.
Question: Is a horse and an ass the same thing?
Or, is it the donkey and the ass that are the same.
No, response is necessary. :cheeky:
Another video preview....
http://www.usmagazine.com/celebritynews/news/michael-jacksons-mother-recalls-once-confronting-him-about-drugs-2010511#ooid=ZmZ3lzMTrqqrOHPY4Z6WKTfimgV1BKPa
fyi - this is the same portion that aired on Today show.
Big Apple2
05-11-2010, 04:34 PM
And I still say that Ms. Katherine is going to have to follow up her response by saying what SHE saw. Nevermind what she heard (and who she heard it from is another story).
If she did not spend time with Michael, then I can understand her being concerned by what she HEARD, but since she did spend time with him, my question would be:
"What did YOU see during the time you spent with Michael."
I hope she is quick enough to add her own narrative, without prodding from Ms. Winfrey, because Oprah is not looking for a FULL answer, she's only looking for a sound-bite which will go along with her agenda, in my opinion.
StacyJ
05-11-2010, 04:45 PM
And I still say that Ms. Katherine is going to have to follow up her response by saying what SHE saw. Nevermind what she heard (and who she heard it from is another story).
If she did not spend time with Michael, then I can understand her being concerned by what she HEARD, but since she did spend time with him, my question would be:
"What did YOU see during the time you spent with Michael."
I hope she is quick enough to add her own narrative, without prodding from Ms. Winfrey, because Oprah is not looking for a FULL answer, she's only looking for a sound-bite which will go along with her agenda, in my opinion.
yep! you got it... where did you hear it from and did you ever see him out of it? Katherine went on tours with MJ and visited him often. She spent everyday with him at Neverland during the trial... She better give a straight and full answer and not leave MJ hanging like Janet has done. We need specifics and timeframes
Ohood
05-11-2010, 04:46 PM
If Michael said no , then he was right and the answer is NO...when Raymone asked him about the will , he said he has a will and he was right !
to ask twise is like saying you were lying and he had every right to get mad...
Michael is the one who asked for help when he was at the beginning of a drug addiction, i read a report about his stay in England and everyone said that he was not in advanced stages of addiction,,,, he healed very well back then and it was not even a big challenge to treat him because he needed to rest and relax more than anything else...he walked out a very healthy man...
and after having kids and being around them 24 h since he was a very hands on father ...the chances are very slim and anyone say something else is simply A LAIR !
Justthefacts
05-11-2010, 04:54 PM
If Michael said no , then he was right and the answer is NO...when Raymone asked him about the will , he said he has a will and he was right !
to ask twise is like saying you were lying and he had every right to get mad...
Michael is the one who asked for help when he was at the beginning of a drug addiction, i read a report about his stay in England and everyone said that he was not in advanced stages of addiction,,,,and he healed very well back then and even it was not a big challenge to treat him because he needed to rest and relax more than anything else...he walked out a very healthy man...
and after having kids and being around them 24 h since he was a very hands on father ...the chances are very slim and anyone say something else is simply A LAIR !
And I agree this is why I don't think Mrs Jackson is going to even go there. And if she does then we know the deal. And if she does goes there AEG is going to rip her apart during this lawsuit of hers because she would be contradicting herself big time
dangerous2000watts
05-11-2010, 05:02 PM
I thought Katherine was the last person would defame Michael in the family.
Why she is sitting there with Oprah and describing her OWN son as a drug addict? Why?
Big Apple2
05-11-2010, 05:05 PM
And I agree this is why I don't think Mrs Jackson is going to even go there. And if she does then we know the deal. And if she does goes there AEG is going to rip her apart during this lawsuit of hers because she would be contradicting herself big time
And that's exactly why these types of interviews are NEVER a good idea, when you have criminal AND civil cases pending.
In one corner you will have Murray's legal eagles watching and hoping to hear something they can use to create "reasonable doubt."
In another corner you will have AEG's legal eagles watching and hoping to hear something they can use in order to get Ms. Katherine's lawsuit dismissed.
All for a book. If this Oprah interview backfires, they will not sell any copies of that coffee table book. I wonder if anybody thought about that in advance.
ExoticPrincess
05-11-2010, 05:26 PM
Just watch out for the editing on this. How Katherine answered any question may not be whats presented in its entirety.
Big Apple2
05-11-2010, 05:33 PM
Just watch out for the editing on this. How Katherine answered any question may not be whats presented in its entirety.
I hope that doesn't happen, but if it does, WHO'S fault will it be?
The Jackson's have been around long enough to know how Oprah get's down. Taj said as much in one of his recent tweets.
Oprah is in a position to play Ms. Katherine and I won't be surprised if she does. I hope she doesn't, but nothing surpirses me at this point.
can somebody please repost the clip on youtube? I can't watch in that player for some reason :(
Justthefacts
05-11-2010, 05:57 PM
I have found this on an other site, but I don't know if true :
According to Gayle King (on her satellite radio show) Oprah did NOT "court" or seek out the Jackson's in any way, it was Marc Schaffel (porn producer/KJ biz partner) who CONTACTED the Oprah team. Oprah & her team were planning an episode on "Teen Heartthrobs" (which coincidentally aired today) and when Oprah was a kid her "crush" was Jackie Jackson. The ONLY call Oprah's team made was to Jackie to see if he would participate.
Days later the Oprah producer assigned to the Jackie Jackson segment received a phone call and faxed letter from Marc Schaffel on behalf of Joe & Katherine Jackson pitching an interview for KJ's book about MJ. THE OPRAH TEAM REJECTED THE PITCH FROM MARC SHAFFEL, JOE, & KJ saying thanks but no thanks.
A few days after Oprah's team turned them down Marc Schaffel contacted them again to say that "Mr. & Mrs. Jackson would 'sweeten' the deal and allow Oprah an 'exclusive' interview w/ the children of MJ if she would agree to feature KJ on her show." According to Gayle, there was MUCH debate between the producers whether or not to do the show. Gayle said the Oprah team is taking great care in the way they are featuring the kids. She said Schaffel made it clear to producers that the Jackson's were willing to leverage the children to promote their biz ventures to other outlets.
Kind of contradicts her saying to Joe I am surprised to see you here
TheChosenOne
05-11-2010, 06:06 PM
I have had some lunch but I am still fuming.
But after years of getting all worked up about soundbites at it relates to Michael, I have decided to wait to get the full transcript of this interview before I comment.
That is not to say that I wont be back to say something before then ...
Sophielo
05-11-2010, 06:17 PM
I'm still angry about it all and the convinient scheduling as well. Co-incidence for two MJ related interviews in a row, don't think so. I'm not stupid.
LisaU123
05-11-2010, 06:18 PM
I thought Katherine was the last person would defame Michael in the family.
Why she is sitting there with Oprah and describing her OWN son as a drug addict? Why?
I know how dare she answer the question honestly.
StacyJ
05-11-2010, 06:32 PM
I know how dare she answer the question honestly.
well on Dateline, she said she never suspected or saw anything because he was always the same.. If she says something different this time she's lying somewhere.
StacyJ
05-11-2010, 06:35 PM
also Katherine is saying she asked him once because she 'heard' about it.. did she ever see anything? or was she just hearing rumors?
And sister Janet claimed the entire family tried everything they could do several times, yet Mike's own Mama said she asked him 'once'????
Somebody is lying
Ashtanga
05-11-2010, 06:40 PM
I have found this on an other site, but I don't know if true :
According to Gayle King (on her satellite radio show) Oprah did NOT "court" or seek out the Jackson's in any way, it was Marc Schaffel (porn producer/KJ biz partner) who CONTACTED the Oprah team. Oprah & her team were planning an episode on "Teen Heartthrobs" (which coincidentally aired today) and when Oprah was a kid her "crush" was Jackie Jackson. The ONLY call Oprah's team made was to Jackie to see if he would participate.
Days later the Oprah producer assigned to the Jackie Jackson segment received a phone call and faxed letter from Marc Schaffel on behalf of Joe & Katherine Jackson pitching an interview for KJ's book about MJ. THE OPRAH TEAM REJECTED THE PITCH FROM MARC SHAFFEL, JOE, & KJ saying thanks but no thanks.
A few days after Oprah's team turned them down Marc Schaffel contacted them again to say that "Mr. & Mrs. Jackson would 'sweeten' the deal and allow Oprah an 'exclusive' interview w/ the children of MJ if she would agree to feature KJ on her show." According to Gayle, there was MUCH debate between the producers whether or not to do the show. Gayle said the Oprah team is taking great care in the way they are featuring the kids. She said Schaffel made it clear to producers that the Jackson's were willing to leverage the children to promote their biz ventures to other outlets.
Another video preview....
http://www.usmagazine.com/celebritynews/news/michael-jacksons-mother-recalls-once-confronting-him-about-drugs-2010511#ooid=ZmZ3lzMTrqqrOHPY4Z6WKTfimgV1BKPa
:bugeyed
:no:
Yes, I have absolute certainty, this interview will be a complete disaster!!!! :doh: That's all I have to say. :( *big sigh*
Big Apple2
05-11-2010, 06:52 PM
also Katherine is saying she asked him once because she 'heard' about it.. did she ever see anything? or was she just hearing rumors?
And sister Janet claimed the entire family tried everything they could do several times, yet Mike's own Mama said she asked him 'once'????
Somebody is lying
Yep, "somebody" is not being truthful. Momma Jackson clearly said she brought the subject up ONCE.
Which means, Janet and Ms. Katherine appear to be on opposite ends of the "intervention" stories. Very interesting!
ilmjj
05-11-2010, 07:02 PM
I know how dare she answer the question honestly.
I don't believe that Michael was a drug addict when he died. I am sorry that you do.
If Katherine did call him a drug addict that makes me sad. It just seems like Michaels family really wants to paint an unflattering picture of him. I hope this is a rumour...
StacyJ
05-11-2010, 07:04 PM
Yep, "somebody" is not being truthful. Momma Jackson clearly said she brought the subject up ONCE.
Which means, Janet and Ms. Katherine appear to be on opposite ends of the "intervention" stories. Very interesting!
we notice everything don't we?? I've always said Janet was lying.. she obviously had no clue what was going on with MJ because she herself said several times that she hadn't seen him in years and just heard how he was doing from Katherine.
Big Apple2
05-11-2010, 07:12 PM
we notice everything don't we?? I've always said Janet was lying.. she obviously had no clue what was going on with MJ because she herself said several times that she hadn't seen him in years and just heard how he was doing from Katherine.
And when she did speak about him publicly, it was regarding that Family Reunion Concert. She told both Larry King and Ellen that she was having conference calls with her brothers and there was only ONE hold out. She never mentioned Michael's name, but folks knew who she was speaking about (LOL). She said that they were still working on that person and that she was willing to open for them.
That's another thing that NEVER jived with me. I mean, if Michael were in such bad shape and in such denial, why in the world was she pushing him to join the rest of the brothers on stage. I'm sorry, but those two stories do not mesh, in my opinion.
If your brother is in such bad shape that he needs an intervention, why would you be pushing him to perform?
MJJ:G.O.A.T
05-11-2010, 07:23 PM
I guess there is the very small hope that maybe Katherine will say, "But I did believe him and I still do. I didn't see anything wrong with him as far as drugs." Maybe she will tell the truth??? Maybe she will be the one that sticks up for him??
Of course if she denies drugs Oprah will not use that clip. It is counterproductive to what she wants to portray.
I have a small hope (a very small one) that this will still turn out ok. Please, please, turn out ok!
I will say this, Ms. Katherine has the opportunity to turn the "drug" discussion around.
Oprah asked her if she knew about any drugs and Katherine said she asked him and he denied it. She can finish that response by saying:
AND ONCE I SAW HIS AUTOPSY REPORT, I REALIZED THAT HE WAS TELLING ME THE TRUTH!
If she is able to come back with an answer "similar" to that, my faith will be restored, because it will put the results of the autopsy report front and center, where it should be. Which will shut Ms. Winfrey and her line of questioning down.
:angel:
If she quotes from the autopsy report that would be amazing. I'm sure there are tons of Oprah viewers who know nothing about it. Otherwise, it could be very ugly thanks to the spin doctors...
bluetopez
05-11-2010, 07:23 PM
Actually On Larry King when Larry said if it was Michael? Janet said yes! Janet said she understands because he has his own career! So I was shocked when she came out talking about him being an addict! If he was such in bad shape to do TII...then how did she and the rest of the fam expect for him to do a damn Family Reunion show? Like Seriously WTF Janet?! O_o
CherubimII
05-11-2010, 07:29 PM
also Katherine is saying she asked him once because she 'heard' about it.. did she ever see anything? or was she just hearing rumors?
And sister Janet claimed the entire family tried everything they could do several times, yet Mike's own Mama said she asked him 'once'????
Somebody is lying
All "The Jacksons" (Katherine and Janet included) are "inventing stories" (i.e. lying), because even though they were not even in contact with Michael Jackson at the time of his death, they want to seem relevant to the general public for the purpose of being able to still generate money using his name. The decent thing to do would be just remain silent, and stop giving interviews to the media.
But, they won't because there is no money reward for doing what
would be decent.
Ashtanga
05-11-2010, 07:42 PM
The decent thing to do would be just remain silent, and stop giving interviews to the media.
1000% :agree:
MJJ:G.O.A.T
05-11-2010, 07:45 PM
I have found this on an other site, but I don't know if true :
According to Gayle King (on her satellite radio show) Oprah did NOT "court" or seek out the Jackson's in any way, it was Marc Schaffel (porn producer/KJ biz partner) who CONTACTED the Oprah team. Oprah & her team were planning an episode on "Teen Heartthrobs" (which coincidentally aired today) and when Oprah was a kid her "crush" was Jackie Jackson. The ONLY call Oprah's team made was to Jackie to see if he would participate.
Days later the Oprah producer assigned to the Jackie Jackson segment received a phone call and faxed letter from Marc Schaffel on behalf of Joe & Katherine Jackson pitching an interview for KJ's book about MJ. THE OPRAH TEAM REJECTED THE PITCH FROM MARC SHAFFEL, JOE, & KJ saying thanks but no thanks.
A few days after Oprah's team turned them down Marc Schaffel contacted them again to say that "Mr. & Mrs. Jackson would 'sweeten' the deal and allow Oprah an 'exclusive' interview w/ the children of MJ if she would agree to feature KJ on her show." According to Gayle, there was MUCH debate between the producers whether or not to do the show. Gayle said the Oprah team is taking great care in the way they are featuring the kids. She said Schaffel made it clear to producers that the Jackson's were willing to leverage the children to promote their biz ventures to other outlets.
:bugeyed :no:
Do you have a link? I'll try to search for a transcript from her radio show but I can only find interviews on her website. There is Gayle's interview with Jackie Jackson: http://www.thegaylekingshow.com/b/Jackie-Jacksons-Surprise-Date-with-Oprah/816653590949472066.html
She could have mentioned it after...
MJJ:G.O.A.T
05-11-2010, 08:05 PM
also Katherine is saying she asked him once because she 'heard' about it.. did she ever see anything? or was she just hearing rumors?
And sister Janet claimed the entire family tried everything they could do several times, yet Mike's own Mama said she asked him 'once'????
Somebody is lying
Yep, "somebody" is not being truthful. Momma Jackson clearly said she brought the subject up ONCE.
Which means, Janet and Ms. Katherine appear to be on opposite ends of the "intervention" stories. Very interesting!
we notice everything don't we?? I've always said Janet was lying.. she obviously had no clue what was going on with MJ because she herself said several times that she hadn't seen him in years and just heard how he was doing from Katherine.
And when she did speak about him publicly, it was regarding that Family Reunion Concert. She told both Larry King and Ellen that she was having conference calls with her brothers and there was only ONE hold out. She never mentioned Michael's name, but folks knew who she was speaking about (LOL). She said that they were still working on that person and that she was willing to open for them.
That's another thing that NEVER jived with me. I mean, if Michael were in such bad shape and in such denial, why in the world was she pushing him to join the rest of the brothers on stage. I'm sorry, but those two stories do not mesh, in my opinion.
If your brother is in such bad shape that he needs an intervention, why would you be pushing him to perform?
Actually On Larry King when Larry said if it was Michael? Janet said yes! Janet said she understands because he has his own career! So I was shocked when she came out talking about him being an addict! If he was such in bad shape to do TII...then how did she and the rest of the fam expect for him to do a damn Family Reunion show? Like Seriously WTF Janet?! O_o
:yes:
I'm glad you guys are discussing this. This strange timeline has been pointed out before w/ various articles...
Petrarose
05-11-2010, 08:45 PM
MARC-VIVIEN, that report about the use of the children breaks my heart. I do not know why I am surprised because earlier in the thread some people stated that Oprah would never go to the house just to interview Katherine and Joe about a book. I do not like to believe in rumors, but this report seems possible. Why else would Oprah go there to interview Katherine? No offense to others, but Katherine by herself does not make people want to tune in to the TV. If this is true, what kind of grand parents do these children have??? Can someone tweet Taj to see if this report is correct. Now I am not only concerned about the interview, but also about the future USE of these children. We can only pray.
max000
05-11-2010, 08:45 PM
To me this seems more like PR control. Oprah found out of some strong reactions MJ fans got, and suddenlly we found out this.
The bold text is so transparent, look how much attention is payed to stress that Oprah is taking great care of the kids. If this does not scream PR disaster control... well..... for me it's clear LOL
Acute perception.!!! OPRAH was so apathetic to this interview, she moved her show to the JACKSONS havenhurst compound. Who are they kidding.??
What is OPRAH'S goal.? Why all these unprecedented shows about child molestation in one month.??? Telling the clip release to the media is about the drug addict question to KATHERINE.
Petrarose
05-11-2010, 09:00 PM
"Originally Posted by Tipareth View Post
To me this seems more like PR control. Oprah found out of some strong reactions MJ fans"
Then if this statement by Gayle is PR, someone is lying, and Katherine needs to make a statement that this is NOT TRUE. Someone in the family should have heard about it already. I am very concerned about this. When we entrust our children to others, we expect them to do the right thing.
Guys what does this yellow hat next to my name mean??? I just saw it today.
smoothlugar
05-11-2010, 09:11 PM
I will say this, Ms. Katherine has the opportunity to turn the "drug" discussion around.
Oprah asked her if she knew about any drugs and Katherine said she asked him and he denied it. She can finish that response by saying:
AND ONCE I SAW HIS AUTOPSY REPORT, I REALIZED THAT HE WAS TELLING ME THE TRUTH!
If she is able to come back with an answer "similar" to that, my faith will be restored, because it will put the results of the autopsy report front and center, where it should be. Which will shut Ms. Winfrey and her line of questioning down.
Absolutely right!!
Facts versus rumours, or just subjective impressions, like those expressed by LMP to Oprah related to the same issue.
And that's exactly why these types of interviews are NEVER a good idea, when you have criminal AND civil cases pending.
Yes. However, I still hope Ms. Katherine had stuck to facts and made a clear distinction between her worries in the past and what finally happened.
Though knowing Oprah, everything will be to her convenience, which apart from audience, it seems to obey some sort of personal prejudiced obsession against Michael.
A pity the children will be exposed to all this.
Ashtanga
05-11-2010, 09:35 PM
Guys what does this yellow hat next to my name mean??? I just saw it today.
Why are you a donator:
http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/5476/555nia.jpg
:)
sharon007
05-11-2010, 10:11 PM
MARC-VIVIEN, that report about the use of the children breaks my heart. I do not know why I am surprised because earlier in the thread some people stated that Oprah would never go to the house just to interview Katherine and Joe about a book. I do not like to believe in rumors, but this report seems possible. Why else would Oprah go there to interview Katherine? No offense to others, but Katherine by herself does not make people want to tune in to the TV. If this is true, what kind of grand parents do these children have??? Can someone tweet Taj to see if this report is correct. Now I am not only concerned about the interview, but also about the future USE of these children. We can only pray.
You just hit on something that I was thinking about recently. Oprah went to the Jacksons home for one reason and that was to get an interview with those kids. Thats a big scoop and brings in tonnes of raitings, which is all she thinks about. I think she got around Katherine to get this interview. I do not trust Oprah. All I do hope is that the interview turns out good for the Jacksons and not for her.
You just hit on something that I was thinking about recently. Oprah went to the Jacksons home for one reason and that was to get an interview with those kids. Thats a big scoop and brings in tonnes of raitings, which is all she thinks about. I think she got around Katherine to get this interview. I do not trust Oprah. All I do hope is that the interview turns out good for the Jacksons and not for her.
Terrible.
:(
elusive moonwalker
05-11-2010, 11:24 PM
even though i wouldnt be surprised one bit if this info from gayle about schaffel was correct seeing as katherine is involved with the piece of crap.this is obviously damage control on orkas behalf.
ExoticPrincess
05-11-2010, 11:35 PM
This interview is ALL about MJ's kids period! There is no way Oprah would've gone to Hayvenhurst just to interview Katherine and that question she posed to Joe about her being surprised he was present seems to imply to me that she was not aware that he would be there. Some family members were left in the dark about this, why the secrecy? if you can't be upfront about something that you're doing only means that a hidden agenda is in play.
Bottomline, the content of this interview will be what Oprah wants to present to the public. Oprah does'nt give two cents about the Jackson's, its all about the BIG GET and getting MJ's kids to be apart of an interview is a major scoop! ratings gold!!!!
chanel05
06-11-2010, 02:34 AM
This interview is ALL about MJ's kids period! There is no way Oprah would've gone to Hayvenhurst just to interview Katherine and that question she posed to Joe about her being surprised he was present seems to imply to me that she was not aware that he would be there. Some family members were left in the dark about this, why the secrecy? if you can't be upfront about something that you're doing only means that a hidden agenda is in play.
Bottomline, the content of this interview will be what Oprah wants to present to the public. Oprah does'nt give two cents about the Jackson's, its all about the BIG GET and getting MJ's kids to be apart of an interview is a major scoop! ratings gold!!!!
Yea thats how I feel... Why wouldnt they tell Randy or Taj??? I think that they would have protested it and they didnt want opposition. For some reason dnt think that Joe persuaded Katherine but her business partners did. But in the end I pray its not true cause that would look bad on Katherine. I just think taht Gayle was tryna cover for her friend. I also think its wrong that Gayle gave out that much info. I think that was messy of her to do so. All she had to say is that the only person we called was Jackie and that Katherine's business partner contacted us for the interview
serendipity
06-11-2010, 02:35 AM
Acute perception.!!! OPRAH was so apathetic to this interview, she moved her show to the JACKSONS havenhurst compound. Who are they kidding.??
BECAUSE they offered her the children. You think she would've traveled just for Katherine? Hell no.
This whole thing is just so disgusting and wrong on so many levels. :no:
ilmjj
06-11-2010, 02:54 AM
I am just sick! I just watched the clip of Oprah and Katherine and O is pounding the drug questions. It just looks to me like Oprah is determined to prove Michael was this scorching drug addict and from the clip I saw Katherine is allowing it. Please God, please just let this be editing and when we see the actual show Katherine will talk about how the autopsy didn't show recent drug abuse.
This show I was watching was also going on about how Katherine and 2 of the kids say alot of the songs are not Michael and they don't support the cd. I am sure this isn't true but they really should say something to support Michael . Is that too much to ask?
I keep thinking about what Marlon said at the memorial..."maybe now Michael they will leave you alone" But his own family is making that impossible. Michael did everything for his family and just look what his family is doing for him.
GOLDSPACESUIT45
06-11-2010, 03:38 AM
How in the heck did Oprah get a interview with the kids if NOBODY CAN get a interview of them?
blankyluvdoodoo
06-11-2010, 03:47 AM
can we do something about this .i am really tired of being helpless when its come to his children.
Naturelle
06-11-2010, 03:50 AM
:bugeyed
I have found this on an other site, but I don't know if true :
According to Gayle King (on her satellite radio show) Oprah did NOT "court" or seek out the Jackson's in any way, it was Marc Schaffel (porn producer/KJ biz partner) who CONTACTED the Oprah team. Oprah & her team were planning an episode on "Teen Heartthrobs" (which coincidentally aired today) and when Oprah was a kid her "crush" was Jackie Jackson. The ONLY call Oprah's team made was to Jackie to see if he would participate.
Days later the Oprah producer assigned to the Jackie Jackson segment received a phone call and faxed letter from Marc Schaffel on behalf of Joe & Katherine Jackson pitching an interview for KJ's book about MJ. THE OPRAH TEAM REJECTED THE PITCH FROM MARC SHAFFEL, JOE, & KJ saying thanks but no thanks.
A few days after Oprah's team turned them down Marc Schaffel contacted them again to say that "Mr. & Mrs. Jackson would 'sweeten' the deal and allow Oprah an 'exclusive' interview w/ the children of MJ if she would agree to feature KJ on her show." According to Gayle, there was MUCH debate between the producers whether or not to do the show. Gayle said the Oprah team is taking great care in the way they are featuring the kids. She said Schaffel made it clear to producers that the Jackson's were willing to leverage the children to promote their biz ventures to other outlets.
:bugeyed:bugeyed:bugeyed JOE IS BEHIND THIS, HE HAS TO BE. KJ&JJ ARE ABUSING MICHAEL'S CHILDREN. I HOPE AND PRAY THIS IS NOT HE CASE:angel::mat: WHERE IS DIANA ROSS???
ChampionsNeverQuit
06-11-2010, 04:36 AM
Oprah realized the folly of her ways after MJ died and she saw "This Is It".
When I saw her talking to Kenny Ortega about "This Is It" I could tell she had a truly life-changing experience and she realized she had let herself be deceived and become part of the Tabloid Junkies.
I think this interview will be great and am hoping Oprah will vocalize a sincere admission or apology to Katherine on how she turned on Michael and joined the Tabloid Junkie crowd and become a Diane Diamond or Maureen Orth or Lisa Bloom or Gloria Allred in disguise.
She never came close to being as bad as any of them but she knew she had a powerful voice and kept her voice silent on the truth until it was too late. But now she is trying to make it up and Katherine is like her son and is a forgiving person just like him and we each need to reach out and let grudges go to Heal the World!
But again in order to forgive the people we are forgiving they need to be sincere in their apologies.
And also wanted to say Geraldo is the best. A lot of people make fun of him but that's because they are jealous of his integrity. Geraldo always stood up for Michael. He knew the truth and never backed down from the truth.
And Geraldo called out Diane Diamond when he said she was not a journalist but rather she was a scam artist! I loved it. Thanks Geraldo!
Learn from Geraldo Oprah!
Naturelle
06-11-2010, 04:47 AM
Oprah realized the folly of her ways after MJ died and she saw "This Is It".
When I saw her talking to Kenny Ortega about "This Is It" I could tell she had a truly life-changing experience and she realized she had let herself be deceived and become part of the Tabloid Junkies.
I think this interview will be great and am hoping Oprah will vocalize a sincere admission or apology to Katherine on how she turned on Michael and joined the Tabloid Junkie crowd and become a Diane Diamond or Maureen Orth or Lisa Bloom or Gloria Allred in disguise.
She never came close to being as bad as any of them but she knew she had a powerful voice and kept her voice silent on the truth until it was too late. But now she is trying to make it up and Katherine is like her son and is a forgiving person just like him and we each need to reach out and let grudges go to Heal the World!
But again in order to forgive the people we are forgiving they need to be sincere in their apologies.
And also wanted to say Geraldo is the best. A lot of people make fun of him but that's because they are jealous of his integrity. Geraldo always stood up for Michael. He knew the truth and never backed down from the truth.
And Geraldo called out Diane Diamond when he said she was not a journalist but rather she was a scam artist! I loved it. Thanks Geraldo!
Learn from Geraldo Oprah!
I hope you're right, boy, do I HOPE SO. :praying
Now, can someone tell me how to get a light bulb thingy? I want one. It's cute.
PrincessMichaela
06-11-2010, 05:55 AM
Too much to quote, but so much said that I agree with. We're pretty much all on the same page, guys. I have a feeling this is going to either be bad or really really bad. (Sorry to be so negative, but c'mon. I think LMP's interview may end up being the better of the two. She's a stronger interviewee.)
The drug stuff is going to be ugly. Loaded questions, Soundbites, interrupting, vague answers, etc, but I'm hoping the trial will clear that up later. I think what we need to hope and pray for now is that the kids weren't used as marionettes.
I swear I am going to spew venom if we're shown those kids talking about anything other than how they like school, their favorite hobbies, and maybe mentioning some nice memories with their dad and how great he was. I have a suspicion that we are going to hear them speak out against the authenticity of the vocals on the new album. And I am going to send a hammer to my wall. Let's hope I am wrong, wrong, wrong.
:angel::timer:
Kingofpop4ever3000
06-11-2010, 06:37 AM
Too much to quote, but so much said that I agree with. We're pretty much all on the same page, guys. I have a feeling this is going to either be bad or really really bad. (Sorry to be so negative, but c'mon. I think LMP's interview may end up being the better of the two. She's a stronger interviewee.)
The drug stuff is going to be ugly. Loaded questions, Soundbites, interrupting, vague answers, etc, but I'm hoping the trial will clear that up later. I think what we need to hope and pray for now is that the kids weren't used as marionettes.
I swear I am going to spew venom if we're shown those kids talking about anything other than how they like school, their favorite hobbies, and maybe mentioning some nice memories with their dad and how great he was. I have a suspicion that we are going to hear them speak out against the authenticity of the vocals on the new album. And I am going to send a hammer to my wall. Let's hope I am wrong, wrong, wrong.
:angel::timer:
Me too. I don't trust Oprah one bit. I have a feeling that this is going to be a real stinker. Every time somebody does an interview about Michael, we fans have to deal with another round of self-righteous judgemental crap from all sides. I'm just so sick of it. Again and again. Time after time. Also, I won't be surprised that when the kids are interviewed they, like the adults, are going to be asked all the usual goading questions not to mention all the current stupid tabloid bull about Michael. I hope I'm wrong or that Katherine puts a stop to it all before it goes haywire. I really hope so. But this is not looking at all to me right now.
max000
06-11-2010, 07:09 AM
Oprah realized the folly of her ways after MJ died and she saw "This Is It".
When I saw her talking to Kenny Ortega about "This Is It" I could tell she had a truly life-changing experience and she realized she had let herself be deceived and become part of the Tabloid Junkies.
I think this interview will be great and am hoping Oprah will vocalize a sincere admission or apology to Katherine on how she turned on Michael and joined the Tabloid Junkie crowd and become a Diane Diamond or Maureen Orth or Lisa Bloom or Gloria Allred in disguise.
She never came close to being as bad as any of them but she knew she had a powerful voice and kept her voice silent on the truth until it was too late. But now she is trying to make it up and Katherine is like her son and is a forgiving person just like him and we each need to reach out and let grudges go to Heal the World!
But again in order to forgive the people we are forgiving they need to be sincere in their apologies.
And also wanted to say Geraldo is the best. A lot of people make fun of him but that's because they are jealous of his integrity. Geraldo always stood up for Michael. He knew the truth and never backed down from the truth.
And Geraldo called out Diane Diamond when he said she was not a journalist but rather she was a scam artist! I loved it. Thanks Geraldo!
Learn from Geraldo Oprah!
Like your post except for the Geraldo part. People make fun of Geraldo because he has no integrity. Wasn't Geraldo part of that tabloid crowd not too long ago.? Didn't he host a short lived tabloid show with Diane Dimond.? Geraldo has his moments. He dedicated an entire show calling out Maureen Orth for her first vanity fair hit piece on MJ. Geraldo got the main source of that vanity piece to admit on national tv that he lied to Orth about MJ.
Sophielo
06-11-2010, 08:02 AM
Gayle King said on her show on Sirius radio that Schaffel approached Oprah for an interview for KJ to promote the book. She said no. Then she said Schaffel came back and said they'd bring Michael's kids on board to 'sweeten the deal.' Now if that's true or simply damage control I do not know. But say it is true. So King basically admitted that they changed their tune as soon as the kids were brought on board because of one thing. Publicity and publicity equals ratings. It makes me so sad. Michael had these kids in masks so people didn't know what they looked like, he kept them notoriously protected. Yet he passes and theyre suddenly doing TV apearances and interviews? Would they still be wearing masks now if Michael was alive, maybe, maybe not. But he'd always go out of his way to protect those kids. But sadly we'll never know.
HeroR
06-11-2010, 08:10 AM
Thanks for posting that clip.
Man, Mother Jackson is going to have to come HARD! She's gonna have to answer those "drug" related questions FULLY, leaving no room for speculation.
I look at that clip and I'm not sure Mother Jackson is up for the challenge. I hope I'm wrong!
Oprah was happy to jump on the "addictions" thing. I wonder if she will even touch upon the sleeping problems Michael had or whether Mother Jackson will bring them up on her own.
She needs to say, "I believed my son, because I spent a lot of time with him and I NEVER saw anything out of the ordinary." She said something similar on Dateline and she needs to say it again: LOUD & CLEAR!
Actually, she did touch on the sleeping problem once. It was when she last interviewed Janet.
Janet was going on about Michael being an addict in denial and Oprah asked her if she knew anything about his sleeping problems. Janet said no. Before she could asked further, Perry cut her off and said the family did everything they could for Michael.
So, she did asked, but Janet was the one who played dumb. It also doesn't help that no one in Michael's family brings up his sleeping issues, except Jermaine and it usually in passing.
elusive moonwalker
06-11-2010, 02:26 PM
Like your post except for the Geraldo part. People make fun of Geraldo because he has no integrity. Wasn't Geraldo part of that tabloid crowd not too long ago.? Didn't he host a short lived tabloid show with Diane Dimond.? Geraldo has his moments. He dedicated an entire show calling out Maureen Orth for her first vanity fair hit piece on MJ. Geraldo got the main source of that vanity piece to admit on national tv that he lied to Orth about MJ.
geraldo had a tacky chat show in the early 90's were he attacked mj big time. he only started sucking upto mj during 03-05 to get that interview with him and then when the trial ended and there was no reward for supporting mj ie another interview he started attacking mj again and has to this day.
diana79
06-11-2010, 02:27 PM
Gayle King said on her show on Sirius radio that Schaffel approached Oprah for an interview for KJ to promote the book. She said no. Then she said Schaffel came back and said they'd bring Michael's kids on board to 'sweeten the deal.' Now if that's true or simply damage control I do not know. But say it is true. So King basically admitted that they changed their tune as soon as the kids were brought on board because of one thing. Publicity and publicity equals ratings. It makes me so sad. Michael had these kids in masks so people didn't know what they looked like, he kept them notoriously protected. Yet he passes and theyre suddenly doing TV apearances and interviews? Would they still be wearing masks now if Michael was alive, maybe, maybe not. But he'd always go out of his way to protect those kids. But sadly we'll never know.
I'm 100% confident that MJ's kids would NOT be doing any interviews if Michael was still here.
Someone in that family needs to find a way to stand up to Joe and Katherine.
ExoticPrincess
06-11-2010, 02:32 PM
I'm 100% confident that MJ's kids would NOT be doing any interviews if Michael was still here.
Someone in that family needs to find a way to stand up to Joe and Katherine.
EXACTLY!:clapping:
And if this comment from Gayle is true, then everybody involved in this interview happening are nothing but opportunists!
Amber Dawn
06-11-2010, 03:48 PM
I'm 100% confident that MJ's kids would NOT be doing any interviews if Michael was still here.
Someone in that family needs to find a way to stand up to Joe and Katherine.
Probably not.. At least until they were older. They may not mind it though. This was something they were raised around, they like movies from what I read so MAYBE being in front of the camera is normal to them. Especially if Paris really wants to be a actress and Prince a behind the scenes guy.
From the pictures they seemed happy. Of course Oprah was Happy that's a pretty big deal to get a interview with Michael Jackson's children. I agree someone needs to stand up for Katherine!
prismsagainst5live
06-11-2010, 04:48 PM
How did we get here? :(
How did we get into a reality where Marc Schaffel is allowed to pimp out Michael's children to make money for himself.
I just can't...
prismsagainst5live
06-11-2010, 04:49 PM
geraldo had a tacky chat show in the early 90's were he attacked mj big time. he only started sucking upto mj during 03-05 to get that interview with him and then when the trial ended and there was no reward for supporting mj ie another interview he started attacking mj again and has to this day.
could you explain in more detail?
cleopatra09
06-11-2010, 04:52 PM
what exactly Oprah did to micahel?
what she said about him?
and how that damaged michael?
I know nothing about this case, please someone tell me.
prismsagainst5live
06-11-2010, 04:54 PM
what exactly Oprah did to micahel?
what she said about him?
and how that damaged michael?
I know nothing about this case, please someone tell me.
in a nutshell- she thinks he is a pedophile and a drug addict and has been broadcasting (literally) these opinons for about 15 years.
cleopatra09
06-11-2010, 05:04 PM
prismsagainst5live
thanks,
from your posts i guessed that she thought he was a pedo and so on,
but i have just found this comment on youtube:
"I dont forget and will never forget the pain Oprah did to him,
she made Jackson cry during his trial for God sake this Creature was & is heartless"
and just want to know how exactly she treated him during the trial?
elusive moonwalker
06-11-2010, 05:06 PM
could you explain in more detail?
not sure what else u want to know. he had a oprah style show in the 90s which was very tabloid attacked mj through out the 93 case.got the interview in 05 b4the trial supported him through that and then after th trial went back to his old ways and the lastthing he did was talk at that universtiy where it called mj a druggie and claimed to know things yet hadnt spoken to him since the interview in 05
Nebbby
06-11-2010, 05:31 PM
prismsagainst5live
thanks,
from your posts i guessed that she thought he was a pedo and so on,
but i have just found this comment on youtube:
"I dont forget and will never forget the pain Oprah did to him,
she made Jackson cry during his trial for God sake this Creature was & is heartless"
and just want to know how exactly she treated him during the trial?
she made him cry?? are you sure about that?
prismsagainst5live
06-11-2010, 05:34 PM
thanks elusive, just wanted to know what he jad said since 05.
I don't know if she made him cry but she was propely laying it on thick on 03-05, loads of shows on molestaion with all her insinuations, had these shows on around jury picking etc.
cleopatra09
06-11-2010, 05:42 PM
Nebbby
I don't know, that's why I asked about it.
somebody wrote it on youtube, I don't know if it's right or wrong.
I thought you knew.
diana79
06-11-2010, 06:19 PM
Probably not.. At least until they were older. They may not mind it though. This was something they were raised around, they like movies from what I read so MAYBE being in front of the camera is normal to them. Especially if Paris really wants to be a actress and Prince a behind the scenes guy.
From the pictures they seemed happy. Of course Oprah was Happy that's a pretty big deal to get a interview with Michael Jackson's children. I agree someone needs to stand up for Katherine!
Michael barely let the public see his kids' faces. There's no way that he would let them do an interview. When they're adults, it's their choice. But, right now, they're just kids.
Do they have their own management and PR people to help them navigate through the entertainment world and look out for their best interests? I highly doubt it. Do they even understand how valuable their "first interview" is? They should be deciding who the interviewer is, what questions are allowed to be asked, and how much they are getting paid. Marc Schaffel, Katherine, or Joe shouldn't be making these decisions.
If any of these kids want to be in the entertainment business, they need to learn that they need to control their own image and career. Their family shouldn't be using them to score interviews for themselves.
riviera1992
06-11-2010, 06:29 PM
You can read every thing Oprah did to Michael in the past in details here
http://www.mj-777.com/?p=5915
MsCassieMollie
06-11-2010, 07:01 PM
Taj tweeted this an hour ago:
tajjackson3 Taj Jackson
Sorry guys that I haven't been on twitter recently, lot's of behind the scenes drama to straighten out.
1 hour ago
Taj Jackson
tajjackson3 Taj Jackson
Stay tuned guys.. getting to the bottom of a lot of things.
1 hour ago
MsCassieMollie
06-11-2010, 07:02 PM
So look out for Taj Twitter:
http://twitter.com/tajjackson3
max000
06-11-2010, 07:15 PM
You can read every thing Oprah did to Michael in the past in details here
http://www.mj-777.com/?p=5915
Now Oprah knows everyone does not genufect at the mere mention of her name.
Ashtanga
06-11-2010, 07:48 PM
I think this interview will be great and am hoping Oprah will vocalize a sincere admission or apology to Katherine on how she turned on Michael and joined the Tabloid Junkie crowd and become a Diane Diamond or Maureen Orth or Lisa Bloom or Gloria Allred in disguise.
She never came close to being as bad as any of them but she knew she had a powerful voice and kept her voice silent on the truth until it was too late. But now she is trying to make it up and Katherine is like her son and is a forgiving person just like him and we each need to reach out and let grudges go to Heal the World!
:fear:
Well, you are keeping positive thoughts for that to happen, but I particularly, I believe this will not happen.
ilmjj
06-11-2010, 08:00 PM
Is it true Prince,Paris and Katherine tell Oprah some of the songs on "Michael" are fakes?
Well Oprah must be happy that she has now included them in her quest to destroy Michael. I am so upset I am shaking!! Why doesn't somebody stand up for Michael??? Even in death it appears he will not get support from his family. Heartbreaking...
prismsagainst5live
06-11-2010, 08:44 PM
Is it true Prince,Paris and Katherine tell Oprah some of the songs on "Michael" are fakes?
Well Oprah must be happy that she has now included them in her quest to destroy Michael. I am so upset I am shaking!! Why doesn't somebody stand up for Michael??? Even in death it appears he will not get support from his family. Heartbreaking...
just tabloid crap as per right now.
Can't know for certain until monday. But Jaafar seems to support the album so I don't think he would if Prince didnt
Petrarose
06-11-2010, 08:45 PM
How did we get here? :(
How did we get into a reality where Marc Schaffel is allowed to pimp out Michael's children to make money for himself.
I just can't...
^^You are right; the bolded is exactly what they have done to Michael's kids, if the story from Gayle is true. This is serious, and I am waiting for Katherine to speak out and say it is not so. If she does not, then I will believe it. This is such a horrible thing to do that I think that any normal grandmother hearing that someone had suggested she did such a thing, would speak out. Also, Marc cannot pimp out the children if their guardian did not give the OK, so I cannot blame Marc!!!! I am really upset here, since yesterday, and the good news about the album did not eradicate this sadness.
Sophielo
06-11-2010, 09:11 PM
I wouldn't believe the tabloid crap. Jackie on Twitter has said that MJ's new album is 'amazing' and Jaafar has the cover on his Twitter page.
prismsagainst5live
06-11-2010, 09:28 PM
I wouldn't believe the tabloid crap. Jackie on Twitter has said that MJ's new album is 'amazing' and Jaafar has the cover on his Twitter page.
yeah thats my stance.
xrisx
06-11-2010, 09:34 PM
I wouldn't believe the tabloid crap. Jackie on Twitter has said that MJ's new album is 'amazing' and Jaafar has the cover on his Twitter page.
That's what I'm holding on to as well.
Noewi
06-11-2010, 09:56 PM
I wouldn't believe the tabloid crap. Jackie on Twitter has said that MJ's new album is 'amazing' and Jaafar has the cover on his Twitter page.
Can you give me a link to Jackie's twitter please? Thanks.
MsCassieMollie
06-11-2010, 11:23 PM
Can you give me a link to Jackie's twitter please? Thanks.
http://twitter.com/jackiejackson5
Exact tweet:
JackieJackson5 Jackie Jackson
MJ's new album is INCREDIBLE! RT@bmcgrew:@JackieJackson5 just wondering if you've heard michaels new album yet? I CANNOT wait!!
4 Nov Favorite Retweet Reply
Taj also agreed that the album is "incredible".
bluetopez
07-11-2010, 06:32 AM
tajjackson3 (http://twitter.com/#%21/tajjackson3) Taj Jackson
I don't c anybody else trying 2 keep the fans informed. It would b easy 2 walk away & focus just on career (cont) http://tl.gd/6rh9q4
7 hours ago (http://twitter.com/#%21/tajjackson3/status/1058068104220672)He said that a few hrs ago! Before he said that Katherine don't know about that remix song! Ouch... he seems mad that we keep asking him questions!? I just read someone accusing him of wanting to destroy the new MJ album...O_o okay? A bit much!
But, it is frustrating that the Jackson Family don't have someone that can just released a statement to clear everything up and taj feels like he is alone in this!?
Their names are all over the place with different stories! So they need to released something that's why we are bugging them! Especially, when the children are getting drag into the mess!
Jackie is the only one pretty clear about the album though! But, My guess is that some don't like that maybe some songs willl be mixed together to make it out to be a new song? Or they don't like that demos will be turned into news songs cause for then that ain't real? Cause Taj said "our" position on some songs haven't changed! So they cool with the real songs but, not the ones that have been made to look real!?
Oh whatever.....I'm wrecking my brain to much trying to figure this out! Pfff! lol SMH
elusive moonwalker
07-11-2010, 02:28 PM
not sure how the jacksons can put a statement out as they all seem to have different opinions depending on what agenda they have. united is one thing they have never been
angelofinnocence
07-11-2010, 05:08 PM
Hi guys
Just wondering how many of us will watch the interview tommorrow.
diana79
07-11-2010, 05:20 PM
I'm going to watch it because I'm interested in what Michael's family members have to say.
Applehead Ale
07-11-2010, 05:22 PM
i may downolad it but i wont give her the happiness of being watched
StaceyMJ
07-11-2010, 05:28 PM
I will watch it online, but will not watch on TV. Not that I'd know what channel it was on if I wanted to!
spoonie
07-11-2010, 05:29 PM
I probably will watch it. I can't make up my mind about something unless I actually see it
Sophielo
07-11-2010, 05:35 PM
Will watch it online most likely but not entirely sure if I will in all honesty.
*Little Suzie*
07-11-2010, 05:38 PM
What time will it appear on Denmark? :)
FedoraHatGirl2058
07-11-2010, 05:53 PM
i will
I believe this will air at 9 AM tomorrow at Chicago so probably we'll get summaries and videos etc quickly. It airs at 5 PM at where I live. I try to watch it then.
angelofinnocence
07-11-2010, 06:07 PM
I will be watching on Youtube possibly through closed fingers!
Petrarose
07-11-2010, 07:43 PM
Many will give detailed information on the interview and I will get my information from these sources. I have not watched Oprah since the 1980's after I got sick of the topics. I heard she changed her program outlook after the 1980's, but I was never drawn back. I am glad she is moving on to do BETTER things now.
What does the star next to my name mean, and where do these things come from?
LoveMJackson
07-11-2010, 07:45 PM
I'll probably watch it on YouTube..although I don't feel like watching
Thrillergirl
07-11-2010, 08:03 PM
I will not even be home to watch it...I may just check it out on YouTube. But I'm still unsure at this point. I kinda don't feel right about watching it.
Laura.L.
07-11-2010, 08:40 PM
What does the star next to my name mean, and where do these things come from?
It's there because you are a donator.
tennet07
07-11-2010, 09:09 PM
imfrom australia,does anyone know of a site where i can watch it online?
imfrom australia,does anyone know of a site where i can watch it online?
youtube
ginvid
07-11-2010, 09:39 PM
Hopefully it will be posted here from youtube like the LMP interview. This is where I will watch it.
bowen9999
07-11-2010, 09:46 PM
Just spotted the poll! Yes I'll watch but only on YouTube. Not gonna give her the ratings!
blankyluvdoodoo
07-11-2010, 10:06 PM
i may DVR it not sure yet but not going to give her rating that is for sure.
TarinJade
07-11-2010, 10:59 PM
I'm not sure if I am going to watch or not. I think it might be best to read what others on here have to say before seeing it.
ExoticPrincess
07-11-2010, 11:20 PM
Right about now I think all the excitement about 'Breaking News' being released on Monday as well will eclipse much of the interest in this interview.
PrincessMichaela
07-11-2010, 11:21 PM
Does anyone know of any ustream channels showing it?
PrincessMichaela
07-11-2010, 11:26 PM
I'm fairly certain that the authenticity of MJ's vocals will be questioned tomorrow (I pray it won't be by the kids...as we've heard reported.) I have no doubt that this is why the estate/Sony is giving us "Breaking News" as a freebie, just 4 days after the announcement. They want people to hear it and get the excitement started and put the promotion in motion before Oprah airs...(just in case...)
Sorry for the double post!
bluetopez
07-11-2010, 11:31 PM
not sure how the jacksons can put a statement out as they all seem to have different opinions depending on what agenda they have. united is one thing they have never been
That's True! So there is no use in tweeting them I guess! -_- lol
Petrarose
07-11-2010, 11:35 PM
Laura,thanks for the information.
Guys there is a petition to sign.
smoothlugar
07-11-2010, 11:51 PM
I'll watch the interview on youtube. Among other things I want to know the conclusion to the topic shown on the clip.
Memefan
08-11-2010, 12:39 AM
Will only watch clips on youtube...i mostly will look for the kids. Just to get some peace of mind that they are striving even though their daddy is no longer with them.
MJ would have wanted them to be happy.
MsCassieMollie
08-11-2010, 12:45 AM
The interview is tomorrow guys...
mjbaybee
08-11-2010, 12:51 AM
Just spotted the poll! Yes I'll watch but only on YouTube. Not gonna give her the ratings!
co-sign :yes:
Ashtanga
08-11-2010, 01:59 AM
The interview is tomorrow guys...
I'm already starting to feel bad just thinking.... :( :puke:
tennet07
08-11-2010, 02:12 AM
so how many hours is it until it is aired? i just need to work out time difference..=)
This is a question I've long had r/t television show ratings.
I live in the U.S. To my knowledge, unless you are involved in a Nielson (sp) ratings survey, there is no accurate counting of viewers watching a television program. Because I turn my TV on and watch a show, who would know what I am watching?
Presumably it's possible to check/gauge the numbers by tracking the number of hits checking her show out on her site/program/designated channel online (ie CBS/NBC/ etc.).
OR by obseving the number of hits/responses/viewers to any You Tube or similar venue, but not by watching the actual show on my television.
I understand not wanting to give her the viewing ratings when the show is actually aired, but in reality, by watching it on You Tube, etc., wouldn't that be a more accurate indication of interest versus just turning the show on and watching it on your own tv when it is aired?
Someone clarifying this with some accurate and confirmed info on this, not just heresay/speculation/assumption, would be appreciated.
ginvid
08-11-2010, 02:35 AM
I can only speak about the Nielsen part. Unless you have a Nielsen box connected to your box, you do not contribute to ratings.
http://www.howstuffworks.com/question433.htm This link has more information.
MsCassieMollie
08-11-2010, 02:36 AM
I'm gonna be crying while watching 2morrow's interview. Like I said before. I hope and pray it's OVERALL positive.
I can only speak about the Nielsen part. Unless you have a Nielsen box connected to your box, you do not contribute to ratings.
http://www.howstuffworks.com/question433.htm This link has more information.
That is my understanding as well, at least in the U.S., and I participated in a Nielsen ratings done by survey on paper, and it was very specific with alot of time involved.
It's jmo from experience, but I do think there may be a misunderstanding of just how "numbers" are obtained. It's more than just turning on your TV and watching the show when it is originally aired. Moreso, it's "hits", etc., collected from sites such as YouTube, etal.
From an excerpt on Inside Edition:
Oprah: Had you ever spoken to him about his addiction?
Katherine: I spoke to him about them once. I was telling him I didn't want to hear one day he had overdosed because it would break my heart. It would kill me too. But he kept saying he wasn't on anything. He said, 'Mother you don't believe me! My own mother doesn't believe me!'
And sadly, it looks like Michael was right. Everyone (family included) has blindly cast him as a drug addict regardless of the facts and circumstances... Don't let his overall healthy physical condition and lack of any drugs other than sleep medicine get in the way of continuing to spread word that he was a junkie who died of an overdose :(
MusicMan26
08-11-2010, 03:17 AM
Based on the excerpt above I've decided I'm not going to watch it. I've had it with the drug talk. They should be talking about his legacy and the good things that he did.
classic
08-11-2010, 03:25 AM
Based on the excerpt above I've decided I'm not going to watch it. I've had it with the drug talk. They should be talking about his legacy and the good things that he did.
The drug talk has become a huge part of his legacy at this point, unfortunately. I wonder why no one talked about this problem when he was alive.
Everyone will always be asked about the drugs now. I thought by this time people would only be craving more stories about him as a person, an artist, and a father.
classic
08-11-2010, 03:27 AM
From an excerpt on Inside Edition:
And sadly, it looks like Michael was right. Everyone (family included) has blindly cast him as a drug addict regardless of the facts and circumstances... Don't let his overall healthy physical condition and lack of any drugs other than sleep medicine get in the way of continuing to spread word that he was a junkie who died of an overdose :(
His death is being framed differently from what the coroner announced. The coroner said homocide. At this point, the portrayal has become death as a result of drug addictions.
Moulin Rouge
08-11-2010, 03:49 AM
This should be(I hope) a very good interview, I will be watching :)
From an excerpt on Inside Edition:
And sadly, it looks like Michael was right. Everyone (family included) has blindly cast him as a drug addict regardless of the facts and circumstances... Don't let his overall healthy physical condition and lack of any drugs other than sleep medicine get in the way of continuing to spread word that he was a junkie who died of an overdose :(
It's interesting that everyone blames Oprah for asking these questions but it wouldn't have come up is Oxman and Chopra hadn't been on every show imaginable after Michael's death saying he was a drug addict when we all know that Murray killed him. The family lined up next all in step with the addict talk. We can't blame Oprah for then asking the questions. Now with all the album talk it's interesting no one has mentioned Murrey in awhile.
Agrrr, what a difficult day. there's a song controversy, and after that we will have to deal with the Oprah interview. I hope we will still be sane by the end of this day.
tennet07
08-11-2010, 09:49 AM
how many hours untill its on guys?
xrisx
08-11-2010, 10:42 AM
Agrrr, what a difficult day. there's a song controversy, and after that we will have to deal with the Oprah interview. I hope we will still be sane by the end of this day.
I know right, I pray things won't get worse..
angelofinnocence
08-11-2010, 11:17 AM
Hoping and praying none of the family put their put in it.
LEGEND
08-11-2010, 11:57 AM
sorry if this has already been asnwered but what time will this interview be airing in the UK?
Yeezy
08-11-2010, 12:34 PM
Fed up of having to worry today already. Theres the song and now theres this, whether its guna turn out good for Michael or not, even with it having his own parent and his children in it.
Big Apple2
08-11-2010, 12:48 PM
I said a few days ago that this interview "might" backfire. And it's already starting with Mann trying to pull a fast one on the fans.
In my opinion, the only reason Ms. Katherine is doing this interview is to promote her book. The same book that Howard Mann is attached to.
I don't see that many people being interested in this book after what Mann tried to pull over the weekend. Whatever good would have happened regarding the sales of the book, where dampened by Mann.
Ms. Katherine lost before she even started, because of her association with this SHADY CHARACTER, in my opinion.
*Little Suzie*
08-11-2010, 01:02 PM
When will it come on YouTube?
*Little Suzie*
08-11-2010, 01:04 PM
A Worldwide Exclusive Oprah's Interview With Katherine Jackson Trailer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDgL0LZuOts
msladeevon
08-11-2010, 01:09 PM
I am so nervous and it not even about me . I want to watch with my eyes and ears covered peeking through my fingers. Good Luck
OnirMJ
08-11-2010, 01:32 PM
When does it airs? European time??
Ashtanga
08-11-2010, 01:45 PM
A Worldwide Exclusive Oprah's Interview With Katherine Jackson Trailer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDgL0LZuOts
The other bomb of today.... :fear: I do not know if I can stand this roller coaster. :(
Thetruthbetold
08-11-2010, 01:49 PM
I still can't believe his kids are going to be interview is it that serious to get ratings for a entertainer Oprah never care for it is what it is she makes so many excuses she knows she never care who MJ was now that he is gone everybody who bash him wants to speak out as for his Mother personally i feel she shouldn't have spoke out but she going to address the truth about her son they had a bond nobody will ever understand.
This is a question I've long had r/t television show ratings.
I live in the U.S. To my knowledge, unless you are involved in a Nielson (sp) ratings survey, there is no accurate counting of viewers watching a television program. Because I turn my TV on and watch a show, who would know what I am watching?
Presumably it's possible to check/gauge the numbers by tracking the number of hits checking her show out on her site/program/designated channel online (ie CBS/NBC/ etc.).
OR by obseving the number of hits/responses/viewers to any You Tube or similar venue, but not by watching the actual show on my television.
I understand not wanting to give her the viewing ratings when the show is actually aired, but in reality, by watching it on You Tube, etc., wouldn't that be a more accurate indication of interest versus just turning the show on and watching it on your own tv when it is aired?
Someone clarifying this with some accurate and confirmed info on this, not just heresay/speculation/assumption, would be appreciated.
I teach an advertising class :) and according to our materials Nielson tracks rating either by paper based surveys or those tracking devices installed in some houses (those tracking devices only record actual live viewing and DVR / Tivo etc recordings that people later watch). Later these results are generalized for America - this is true for all surveys/ratings. every person involved knows that they are participating in the ratings determination.
They also manage Internet ratings (not for unofficially added videos on youtube but for the websites) but I don't think they add those numbers to the TV viewing (as our information didn't mention it) but I can't be sure.
Autumn II
08-11-2010, 02:27 PM
I teach an advertising class :) and according to our materials Nielson tracks rating either by paper based surveys or those tracking devices installed in some houses (those tracking devices only record actual live viewing and DVR / Tivo etc recordings that people later watch). Later these results are generalized for America - this is true for all surveys/ratings. every person involved knows that they are participating in the ratings determination.
They also manage Internet ratings (not for unofficially added videos on youtube but for the websites) but I don't think they add those numbers to the TV viewing (as our information didn't mention it) but I can't be sure.
I hope everyone reads this. If you watch this interview on your tv, it will have NO effect on ratings unless you have a Nielson device on your tv (and you'd have had to sign an agreement about that) or fill out a paper survey.
Not sure about online ratings, but primary is the Nielson automatic tracking device and paper surveys.
In other words, watching or not watching has NO effect on ratings, unless you are officially "counted." Ratings should not be an impediment to watching. We will follow our consciences about that.
eyeluvumore
08-11-2010, 02:28 PM
In the first few years after Elvis died, all the media wanted to report about was the drugs. In time though, the frenzied speculation surrounding his death died down, some very good and truthful books about Elvis were released, and the focus is now back on the man and the music. The same thing will happen with Michael. In twenty years, I think the mainstream will have a lot better of idea of Michael as a person.
mjjesamor
08-11-2010, 02:53 PM
Just saw this when i googled Michael Jackson.Does this mean the interview has aired?
http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory?id=12086816
Just saw this when i googled Michael Jackson.Does this mean the interview has aired?
http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory?id=12086816
it has aired in Chicago.
Moulin Rouge
08-11-2010, 03:03 PM
Just saw this when i googled Michael Jackson.Does this mean the interview has aired?
http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory?id=12086816
Oprah airs earlier in the chicago area than the rest of the country so it has aired already there.
StacyJ
08-11-2010, 03:04 PM
Katherine should be ashamed of herself..
I wished I hadn't clicked on the link.
0_0 *tries to remain sane*...
elusive moonwalker
08-11-2010, 03:05 PM
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hopefully the fake song talk will detract from the car crash that is about to happen
StacyJ
08-11-2010, 03:06 PM
it has aired in Chicago.
so are you in Chicago? how was it?
ScrEAm.Jack5on
08-11-2010, 03:06 PM
apparently oprah asked joe if he beat michael and katherine said "admit it"
mjjesamor
08-11-2010, 03:06 PM
Link works fine for me..... this is the headline "Jackson's Mother Says Son Was Addicted to Surgery"
elusive moonwalker
08-11-2010, 03:07 PM
well thats better than drugs
This can't be real what we're witnessing.
Mirabella76
08-11-2010, 03:12 PM
OMG. They talked about plastic surgery and about his nose. Tell me it's just a nightmare.........
ginvid
08-11-2010, 03:12 PM
Is there no decency left in the world???
MsCassieMollie
08-11-2010, 03:12 PM
Someone from the MJJB forums saw part of the interview and this what they though of it:
So, I was able to catch the last half portion.
Overall, from what I did see there wasn't anything that I really had a problem with--I was surprised that the interview was really good.
Oprah seemed to be respectful with her questions and her demeanor, especially with the kids.
But I didn't watch the whole thing so I don't know if the first half is the same.
When the kids came out, I had this big smile on my face....they look so grown up!!!
suzynyc
08-11-2010, 03:13 PM
Billy Bush just played a clip from the Oprah/Katherine interview on his show and in it Katherine says Dr. Murray told her the news that MJ was dead. Didn't Frank Deleo claim to be the one to break the news to her and the kids?
Ashtanga
08-11-2010, 03:14 PM
Just saw this when i googled Michael Jackson.Does this mean the interview has aired?
http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory?id=12086816
Michael Jackson's mother says she believes her famous son was addicted to plastic surgery.
She says she talked to the surgeon because Michael Jackson's nose kept getting smaller from repeated operations and looked "like a toothpick at one time."
:no:
No comments about it!!!!!!!!!!! :bugeyed :doh:
so are you in Chicago? how was it?
nope I'm in Virginia. It airs 5PM at where I live.
elusive moonwalker
08-11-2010, 03:14 PM
frank told kids .dont know if he mentioned katherines name.
re the tooth pick.very classy katherine
Ashtanga
08-11-2010, 03:17 PM
Someone from the MJJB forums saw part of the interview and this what they though of it:
So, I was able to catch the last half portion.
Overall, from what I did see there wasn't anything that I really had a problem with--I was surprised that the interview was really good.
Oprah seemed to be respectful with her questions and her demeanor, especially with the kids.
But I didn't watch the whole thing so I don't know if the first half is the same.
When the kids came out, I had this big smile on my face....they look so grown up!!!
:girl_whistle:
Justthefacts
08-11-2010, 03:17 PM
There was a doctor of Michael's who said Michael had work done on his nose so much because lupus had all but eating skin around Michael's nose. I will find the clip. And Katherine really have you looked at Latoya lately?
Moulin Rouge
08-11-2010, 03:19 PM
Billy Bush just played a clip from the Oprah/Katherine interview on his show and in it Katherine says Dr. Murray told her the news that MJ was dead. Didn't Frank Deleo claim to be the one to break the news to her and the kids?
Either Frank said he told Michael's mother & kids or just the kids. I hope she talked more about Murray, the focus needs to be on him more.
MsCassieMollie
08-11-2010, 03:20 PM
:girl_whistle:
lol I have to see t he interview for myself to judge though.
from lipstickalley
Oprah asked her feelings on Murray. Katherine said she couldn't say if Murray killing Michael was intentional or not. She has her feelings, but is keeping them to herself. The best part of the interview for me was Oprah speaking with Michael's children. I think the world needs to see how normal they are, then maybe they can leave the alone. Blanket was the most shy and he really didn't have much to say. Paris and Prince spoke very highly of their father. Sharing memories of bonding with him. Parish said Michael was the best father in the world, and how he could cook his butt off. Making the best breakfast
Ashtanga
08-11-2010, 03:23 PM
lol I have to see t he interview for myself to judge though.
Yeah.... I really do not believe that this interview was 1000% positive/good. -_-
from lipstickalley
Oprah asked her feelings on Murray. Katherine said she couldn't say if Murray killing Michael was intentional or not. She has her feelings, but is keeping them to herself. The best part of the interview for me was Oprah speaking with Michael's children. I think the world needs to see how normal they are, then maybe they can leave the alone. Blanket was the most shy and he really didn't have much to say. Paris and Prince spoke very highly of their father. Sharing memories of bonding with him. Parish said Michael was the best father in the world, and how he could cook his butt off. Making the best breakfast
:wtf2
WHAT????????? Oh God.... :doh:
Moulin Rouge
08-11-2010, 03:27 PM
There are some mixed updates but this is someones summary of the show like the trial in 1995 which is supposed to be 2005.
Katherine Jackson talks about Michael on Oprah
November 8th, 2010 10:43 am ET
Michael Jackson's mother, Katherine Jackson, appeared on The Oprah Winfrey Show on Monday, November 8, 2010 to talk about the life and death of her superstar son. For the first time, the Jackson family matriarch came forward to talk about her feelings on the exclusive interview with the talk show queen.
Katherine Jackson appeared honest and sincere, as she talked about her love of her son, giving a viewpoint that only a mother could. She talked about his birth, plastic surgeries, marriage to Lisa Marie Jackson, molestation trial, drug addiction and death.
It was with a sense of sadness that Jackson described how Michael Jackson, in his teens, decided that his nose was ugly because too big and went out and had plastic surgery without telling her in advance. Michael Jackson claimed that he only had two plastic surgeries in a 1993 Oprah interview, but his mother said that he had more than two. When asked why her son had lied, Katherine Jackson said he was embarrassed.
Katherine Jackson also admitted that the family knew that Michael had a drug addiction problem, but attempts to get help were thwarted by Michael. Any family faced with an addicted loved one can understand the pain and frustration.
Katherine also talked about the controversial molestation trial in 1995. She said that she never believed that her son could be guilty, because he loved children.
Michael Jackson died suddenly of cardiac arrest on June 25, 2009. The cause of death was determined to be propofal intoxication. Propofal is an anesthetic, designed to be used only during surgical procedures. The shocking sudden death of the King of Pop brought an outpouring of grief from fans around the world. Dr. Conrad Murray has been charged with involuntary manslaughter in the death of Michael Jackson.
Katherine Jackson is now raising Michael Jackson's three children at the family estate in Encino, California. The older children, Prince and Paris, are going to school. The youngest, Blanket, has chosen to he home schooled, but may start attendng school next year. Katherine Jackson said that the children are adjusting to living with their grandmother and cousins very well.
Katherine Jackson's book, Never Can Say Goodbye: The Katherine Jackson Story, includes family photos and her thoughts about her beloved son.
http://www.examiner.com/cable-tv-in-national/katherine-jackson-talks-about-michael-on-oprah
elusive moonwalker
08-11-2010, 03:30 PM
Katherine Jackson also admitted that the family knew that Michael had a drug addiction problem, but attempts to get help were thwarted by Michael. Any family faced with an addicted loved one can understand the pain and frustration.
and the re writting of history continues. not surprising coming from the examiner again. shame some of the jacksons arent as bothered about this as they are complaining about a song and whether its fake or not
ginvid
08-11-2010, 03:30 PM
I think we all knew this was coming. So much for clearing things up.:no:
Ashtanga
08-11-2010, 03:32 PM
Katherine Jackson talks about Michael on Oprah
November 8th, 2010 10:43 am ET
Michael Jackson's mother, Katherine Jackson, appeared on The Oprah Winfrey Show on Monday, November 8, 2010 to talk about the life and death of her superstar son. For the first time, the Jackson family matriarch came forward to talk about her feelings on the exclusive interview with the talk show queen.
Katherine Jackson appeared honest and sincere, as she talked about her love of her son, giving a viewpoint that only a mother could. She talked about his birth, plastic surgeries, marriage to Lisa Marie Jackson, molestation trial, drug addiction and death.
It was with a sense of sadness that Jackson described how Michael Jackson, in his teens, decided that his nose was ugly because too big and went out and had plastic surgery without telling her in advance. Michael Jackson claimed that he only had two plastic surgeries in a 1993 Oprah interview, but his mother said that he had more than two. When asked why her son had lied, Katherine Jackson said he was embarrassed.
Katherine Jackson also admitted that the family knew that Michael had a drug addiction problem, but attempts to get help were thwarted by Michael. Any family faced with an addicted loved one can understand the pain and frustration.
Katherine also talked about the controversial molestation trial in 1995. She said that she never believed that her son could be guilty, because he loved children.
Michael Jackson died suddenly of cardiac arrest on June 25, 2009. The cause of death was determined to be propofal intoxication. Propofal is an anesthetic, designed to be used only during surgical procedures. The shocking sudden death of the King of Pop brought an outpouring of grief from fans around the world. Dr. Conrad Murray has been charged with involuntary manslaughter in the death of Michael Jackson.
Katherine Jackson is now raising Michael Jackson's three children at the family estate in Encino, California. The older children, Prince and Paris, are going to school. The youngest, Blanket, has chosen to he home schooled, but may start attendng school next year. Katherine Jackson said that the children are adjusting to living with their grandmother and cousins very well.
Katherine Jackson's book, Never Can Say Goodbye: The Katherine Jackson Story, includes family photos and her thoughts about her beloved son.
http://www.examiner.com/cable-tv-in-national/katherine-jackson-talks-about-michael-on-oprah
:doh:
xthunderx2
08-11-2010, 03:32 PM
this disgusts me..not only is she going on the biggest talk show..BUT OPRAH..who talks so much shit about Michael....Katherine..You have sold out your own son...AND you bring his most pride possessions with you...his children. THAT can never be forgiven. God please be with these children. Her job is suppose to be to do what is best for them.....well this is NOT it. Michael I am so sorry..:(
StacyJ
08-11-2010, 03:32 PM
Katherine Jackson talks about Michael on Oprah
November 8th, 2010 10:43 am ET
Michael Jackson's mother, Katherine Jackson, appeared on The Oprah Winfrey Show on Monday, November 8, 2010 to talk about the life and death of her superstar son. For the first time, the Jackson family matriarch came forward to talk about her feelings on the exclusive interview with the talk show queen.
Katherine Jackson appeared honest and sincere, as she talked about her love of her son, giving a viewpoint that only a mother could. She talked about his birth, plastic surgeries, marriage to Lisa Marie Jackson, molestation trial, drug addiction and death.
It was with a sense of sadness that Jackson described how Michael Jackson, in his teens, decided that his nose was ugly because too big and went out and had plastic surgery without telling her in advance. Michael Jackson claimed that he only had two plastic surgeries in a 1993 Oprah interview, but his mother said that he had more than two. When asked why her son had lied, Katherine Jackson said he was embarrassed.
Katherine Jackson also admitted that the family knew that Michael had a drug addiction problem, but attempts to get help were thwarted by Michael. Any family faced with an addicted loved one can understand the pain and frustration.
Katherine also talked about the controversial molestation trial in 1995. She said that she never believed that her son could be guilty, because he loved children.
Michael Jackson died suddenly of cardiac arrest on June 25, 2009. The cause of death was determined to be propofal intoxication. Propofal is an anesthetic, designed to be used only during surgical procedures. The shocking sudden death of the King of Pop brought an outpouring of grief from fans around the world. Dr. Conrad Murray has been charged with involuntary manslaughter in the death of Michael Jackson.
Katherine Jackson is now raising Michael Jackson's three children at the family estate in Encino, California. The older children, Prince and Paris, are going to school. The youngest, Blanket, has chosen to he home schooled, but may start attendng school next year. Katherine Jackson said that the children are adjusting to living with their grandmother and cousins very well.
Katherine Jackson's book, Never Can Say Goodbye: The Katherine Jackson Story, includes family photos and her thoughts about her beloved son.
http://www.examiner.com/cable-tv-in-national/katherine-jackson-talks-about-michael-on-oprah
So Katherine claims the family knew MJ had a problem yet she only talked to him 'once'
about it??
Justthefacts
08-11-2010, 03:32 PM
Did she really say that? You got to him Mrs Jackson you saw him a week before he died. Remember? Of course not. Oh and here is that clip I was talking about
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8rQxm2YizM&feature=player_embedded
Big Apple2
08-11-2010, 03:32 PM
Good Lord! Why in the world is Katherine talking about "plastic surgery" and "Michael's nose." That's just MORE fodder for the tabloids.
I'm guess that she is NOT there to straighten out Ms. Oprah Winfrey!
SO FAR, it looks like this interview will only feed MORE tabloid headlines. Good Job Kate!
*Little Suzie*
08-11-2010, 03:34 PM
edit......
StacyJ
08-11-2010, 03:35 PM
I hope the examiner has made up some of this... They can't even get the date of the trial right
CherubimII
08-11-2010, 03:36 PM
Just like Joe Jackson, Katherine Jackson likes being treated like a "star". Although Michael's children are paying all the bills, I guess they had better learn to adjust to "living with their cousins".
Pray for the children of Michael Jackson: Prince, Paris, and Blanket. :angel:
Moulin Rouge
08-11-2010, 03:36 PM
I think we all knew this was coming. So much for clearing things up.:no:
From What i hear the surgery talk is minimal and the interview was nice. I am going to wait to see it for myself before i judge, i know the media like to take a few quotes and make a sensationalized story on it. I persoanlly wouldn't talke about surgery because of how the media runs with it no matter how she'd put it.
ginvid
08-11-2010, 03:38 PM
edit......
Not part 1. It is just the preview looped over and over again. Thanks though.
*Little Suzie*
08-11-2010, 03:40 PM
^ I know that's why I edited it :lol: stupid me.. I thought it was the real one..
Big Apple2
08-11-2010, 03:41 PM
So Katherine claims the family knew MJ had a problem yet she only talked to him 'once' about it??
Yeah, they all knew about his "supposed" problem, but that didn't stop them from BEGGING him to go on stage with the brothers again, including Janet as the opening act (her words).
Joe, the brothers, Janet, Katherine, Rowe, and All Good Entertainment, collectively were BEGGING Michael to perform again. Yet we are supposed to believe that he had some big drug addiction.
I was holding out hope, but Katherine Jackson has disappointed me very badly today. She had an opportunity to set a bunch of things straight, but so far, she is failing, in my opinion.
Oprah must be delighted!
And the tabloids should send Mrs. Jackson massive amounts of flowers for the headlines she's giving them.
Justthefacts
08-11-2010, 03:44 PM
So far I have not heard anything about her talking about Michael being in denial. But it would not shock me
elusive moonwalker
08-11-2010, 03:44 PM
So Katherine claims the family knew MJ had a problem yet she only talked to him 'once'
about it??
im hoping its just the way the article was written as the examiner are big time haters. and its about that quote where mj told kat even u dont believe me. even his mother betrayed him in the end.
StacyJ
08-11-2010, 03:46 PM
So far I have not heard anything about her talking about Michael being in denial. But it would not shock me
so you're watching it right now?
ginvid
08-11-2010, 03:46 PM
What a horrible day. Beginning with the nightmare from midnight and continuing on.
Ashtanga
08-11-2010, 03:47 PM
Did she really say that? You got to him Mrs Jackson you saw him a week before he died. Remember? Of course not. Oh and here is that clip I was talking about
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8rQxm2YizM&feature=player_embedded
Explanation of Michael's Plastic Surgery. Dr. Strict explains Michaels medical history involving his Lupas and plastic surgery procedures.
:o
:puke:
CherubimII
08-11-2010, 03:48 PM
Now, I know why Michael Jackson is dead.
(God rest his Soul.):angel:,
and the rest of the Jacksons are still alive.
He lived with a family of cut throats.
Well, at least, they didn't get his money,:cheeky: which, by the way, is
the reason they don't mind trashing his legacy for the money.
combs2024
08-11-2010, 03:48 PM
What a horrible day. Beginning with the nightmare from midnight and continuing on.
Yep I agree! Michael's life was a hot mess. Imagine how he felt if we feel this way. I cannot even believe he was able to withstand all this drama as long as he did.
A true hero for sure!
marc_vivien
08-11-2010, 03:51 PM
Did they discuss about the estate, the album, etc... ?
Ashtanga
08-11-2010, 03:51 PM
Yep I agree! Michael's life was a hot mess. Imagine how he felt if we feel this way. I cannot even believe he was able to withstand all this drama as long as he did.
A true hero for sure!
He was much more than a hero. :heart:
Poor Michael.... :cry:
Justthefacts
08-11-2010, 03:52 PM
What I meant was I have not heard anyone who saw the interview say Katherine said Michael was in denial about drugs, The plastic surgery line was low and I expect better from his Mother. This is a lady who defends her other children when they are clearly in the wrong
Big Apple2
08-11-2010, 04:05 PM
The plastic surgery line was low and I expect better from his Mother.
I'm so shocked by that type of talk coming from Katherine Jackson. I thought she was there to set the record straight, not make matters worse.
What really get's to me is that, to my knowledge, she has NEVER, publically made those types of comments before.
Michael's gone now, so I guess "the coast if clear."
MsCassieMollie
08-11-2010, 04:06 PM
A friend of mine saw the interview and this is what she had to say:
I just finished watching the interview with Oprah. My heart ached for Mrs. Jackson and the children, and at the same time, my emotions are all over the place.
The interview aired this morning on Oprah. I am sure in a short time it will be up on You Tube just as the LMP interview was. I really need to take a little time with this to process it all. I will say that although I strongly disagree with the children being interviewed by Oprah of all people, I do feel that they came across well and you could easily see how beautifully Michael raised them to be confident, well-mannered children. THEY are his legacy. Look at them and you can very easily see what kind of a man Michael was ♥
I too worry that Mrs. K is getting bad advice. I agree. I also think about her age as well and yes, being in her 80's and having to deal with all of this I agree is way too much. It's not good all that is going on :(
I so agree Jenny. Everybody I've ever spoken to who knew Michael has had nothing but praise for Michael as a person and especially as a father. If he were in the condition claimed, he would not have been able to function that way as a Fat...her and he would not have been the kind of Father that we know he was. Someone in that condition would not be able to care for his kids the way he did and to raise them properly, which we know he did. It's clear and evident.
There is a lot of deception out there and there are concerns that many are being directed to say certain things about his condition (however inaccurate) to make the world believe that he had a serious drug/addiction problem and therefore caused his own death. Even in today's interview....Oprah directed so many questions at Mrs. K to push the interview in a certain direction...asking her about the drugs, about the molestation charges, about the baby dangling incident and Michael as a father, about the veiling of the children, about his surgeries...again not ONE mention of his humanitarianism. Very upsetting. I think that Mrs. K is definitely being given bad advice and counsel.
CherubimII
08-11-2010, 04:06 PM
He was much more than a hero. :heart:
Poor Michael.... :cry:
I am so grateful that Michael Jackson through his music and dance shared with us the beauty that is in his Soul.
God Blesshttp://angelwinks.net/images/angel3l.gif Michael Jackson http://angelwinks.net/images/angel3r.gifthroughout eternity.
LoveMJackson
08-11-2010, 04:07 PM
:cry: :puke:
with a family like this who needs enemies? poor Michael. :(
ahhhhh this day is too much already..
blankyluvdoodoo
08-11-2010, 04:09 PM
so much for being positive so basically she is fine with randy jacksons claim.
on the song whole family came out on twitter to protest but no one came out and said any thing about Oprah exploiting children.action speak louder then word for me.:no:
MsCassieMollie
08-11-2010, 04:11 PM
Michael Jackson Kids Talk about their Dad
As an album of Michael Jackson's previously-unheard music nears its release, his family is ready for a release of its own.
In a candid interview with Oprah Winfrey airing on "Oprah" today, Jackson's children, Prince, Paris, and Blanket, opened up about their pop icon father for the first time since his death.
Surrounded by their cousins at the Jackson family's California compound, Havenhurst, Prince, 13, and Paris, 12, talked about growing up with Michael.
"I kind of felt like no one understood what a good father he was. He was the best cook ever," Paris told Winfrey. "He was just a normal dad."
"He made the best French toast in the world," she added. "He just made the best breakfasts in the world."
Prince and Paris described Michael as "strict" but said he often treated them to sweets like Snickers candy bars and Coca-Cola.
"He tried to raise us without us knowing who he was, but that didn't really go so well," Paris said, smiling.
The two shared their favorite memories of Michael.
"We were in Bahrain, and we used to wake up early and walk on the beach," Prince said.
"One time we were on the roof of the Luxor in Las Vegas, just saw all the city lights," Paris said. "We were eating Snickers, we had some soda."
"Sometimes he would take me to a museum, because we both loved art," Paris added. "We'd play tag outside. He got us Kenya [their dog] four years ago."
Blanket, 8, barely spoke during the interview, answering "yes" when Winfrey asked if he was still home-schooled. Blanket added that while Prince "could get away with anything," when it came to being disciplined by Michael, he could not.
They also talked about their hobbies and ambitions.
"I'd like to be an actress when I'm older," Paris told Winfrey. "I sometimes do improv. I used to do it with my dad."
Prince said his favorite pastimes were "video games and sports." He said he wants to "produce movies and direct" when he grows up.
Winfrey wrapped up her interview with a poignant question -- "What do you miss the most?"
"Everything," Paris replied.
Jackson's mother and father, Katherine and Joe Jackson, also talked to Winfrey about their son's life, death, and how they're raising his three children.
"You know what broke my heart more than anything else in this world? When people at the hospital told us, 'You can leave now,' and Paris and Prince said, 'Where are we going?'" Katherine said.
She said that while the children are adjusting to their new life "very well," they often reminisce about their father.
What they talk about is, 'Daddy would do this and daddy would do that.' Or, 'That's how Daddy did it,'" Katherine said. "Paris is very emotional. She talks about him all the time. She's the strong one. All the pictures on her wall in her bedroom are of Michael."
Katherine called the day Jackson died, June 25, 2009, "the worst day of my life." She's dedicated a new book in his memory, "Never Can Say Goodbye."
"They didn't tell me he was dead. They wanted me to come to the hospital," she said. "They made the doctor tell me," she added, referring to Dr. Conrad Murray, Jackson's personal physician.
"I said, 'How is he? How is he, did he make it?' And he said 'No, he's gone,'" Katherine told Winfrey before breaking into tears.
Murray has plead not guilty to charges of involuntary manslaughter for allegedly administering a fatal dose of the drug Propofol to Jackson and is due back in court in January. In addition, Joe Jackson has filed a wrongful death lawsuit against Murray.
Katherine refused to say whether or not she thinks Murray murdered her son.
"I can't accuse him of murder," she told Winfrey. "I don't know if it was accidentally done or if it was intentionally done."
She admitted that she tried to keep him away from drugs like Propofol, just as she tried to get him to stop undergoing plastic surgery.
"I thought it was too small," she said of Jackson's post-surgery nose, adding that it looked "like a toothpick at one time." "I had told him, 'That's enough, why do you keep going?'"
Meanwhile, Joe Jackson used his time with Winfrey to emphasize that while he "never beat" Michael or any of this other children, he did hit them with a strap.
"He used a strap. Yes he did, he used a strap," Katherine said, sitting next to Joe.
Joe defended his actions.
"It kept them out of jail. It raised them right," he said. "My kids have never been in jail. Nine kids, never been in jail."
http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/michael-jacksons-kids-oprah-winfre y-normal-dad/story?id=12087134&page=1[/url]
Big Apple2
08-11-2010, 04:14 PM
There is a lot of deception out there and there are concerns that many are being directed to say certain things about his condition (however inaccurate) to make the world believe that he had a serious drug/addiction problem and therefore caused his own death. Even in today's interview....Oprah directed so many questions at Mrs. K to push the interview in a certain direction...asking her about the drugs, about the molestation charges, about the baby dangling incident and Michael as a father, about the veiling of the children, about his surgeries...again not ONE mention of his humanitarianism. Very upsetting. I think that Mrs. K is definitely being given bad advice and counsel.[/b]
This is just painful to read!
So much for setting Oprah straight.
Katherine Jackson felll right into Winfrey's trap.
No discussion regarding how generous Michael was? Mrs. Jackson had the opportunity to steer the discussion anyway she wanted to. Unbelievable!
Oh and in my opinion, she can forget about selling that book. After that interview (and what Mann pulled the other day), I'm not sure many people will be interested in her coffee table book.
CherubimII
08-11-2010, 04:15 PM
Well, if Mrs. Jackson is somewhat senile, why will not her daughters:
Rebbie, Janet, and LaToya help her out a "tiny bit". :mello:
Big Apple2
08-11-2010, 04:21 PM
Katherine refused to say whether or not she thinks Murray murdered her son.
"I can't accuse him of murder," she told Winfrey. "I don't know if it was accidentally done or if it was intentionally done."
What the heck does that mean?
elusive moonwalker
08-11-2010, 04:25 PM
they go on about addictions yet dont know if murray murdered him. stupid ppl
my heart breaks over the kids talking about him.
MsCassieMollie
08-11-2010, 04:26 PM
What the heck does that mean?
That means she can't question about and doesn't know what really went down.
Ashtanga
08-11-2010, 04:28 PM
Oprah directed so many questions at Mrs. K to push the interview in a certain direction...asking her about the drugs, about the molestation charges, about the baby dangling incident and Michael as a father, about the veiling of the children, about his surgeries...again not ONE mention of his humanitarianism. Very upsetting. I think that Mrs. K is definitely being given bad advice and counsel.
:no:
*big sigh*
I am so grateful that Michael Jackson through his music and dance shared with us the beauty that is in his Soul.
God Blesshttp://angelwinks.net/images/angel3l.gif Michael Jackson http://angelwinks.net/images/angel3r.gifthroughout eternity.
:heart: :angel:
Michael Jackson Kids Talk about their Dad
As an album of Michael Jackson's previously-unheard music nears its release, his family is ready for a release of its own.
In a candid interview with Oprah Winfrey airing on "Oprah" today, Jackson's children, Prince, Paris, and Blanket, opened up about their pop icon father for the first time since his death.
Surrounded by their cousins at the Jackson family's California compound, Havenhurst, Prince, 13, and Paris, 12, talked about growing up with Michael.
"I kind of felt like no one understood what a good father he was. He was the best cook ever," Paris told Winfrey. "He was just a normal dad."
"He made the best French toast in the world," she added. "He just made the best breakfasts in the world."
Prince and Paris described Michael as "strict" but said he often treated them to sweets like Snickers candy bars and Coca-Cola.
"He tried to raise us without us knowing who he was, but that didn't really go so well," Paris said, smiling.
The two shared their favorite memories of Michael.
"We were in Bahrain, and we used to wake up early and walk on the beach," Prince said.
"One time we were on the roof of the Luxor in Las Vegas, just saw all the city lights," Paris said. "We were eating Snickers, we had some soda."
"Sometimes he would take me to a museum, because we both loved art," Paris added. "We'd play tag outside. He got us Kenya [their dog] four years ago."
Blanket, 8, barely spoke during the interview, answering "yes" when Winfrey asked if he was still home-schooled. Blanket added that while Prince "could get away with anything," when it came to being disciplined by Michael, he could not.
They also talked about their hobbies and ambitions.
"I'd like to be an actress when I'm older," Paris told Winfrey. "I sometimes do improv. I used to do it with my dad."
Prince said his favorite pastimes were "video games and sports." He said he wants to "produce movies and direct" when he grows up.
Winfrey wrapped up her interview with a poignant question -- "What do you miss the most?"
"Everything," Paris replied.
http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/michael-jacksons-kids-oprah-winfre y-normal-dad/story?id=12087134&page=1[/url]
:cry:
May God protect the three angels of Michael. :heart: :angel:
The Lost Child
08-11-2010, 04:28 PM
TY, MsCassieMollie.
Afer just reading what Paris and Prince said my heart is aching, literally. God, it's just so unfair! I'd never cope with it, while they seem so brave. Little Angels.
I don't wanna go into discussion abt Oprah in general and how he ran this discussion. I share most of your opinions.
I just wish the Children would find the way to somehow grow beyond all those family issues :(
virginia_woolf
08-11-2010, 04:28 PM
Michael's kids make me cry. The rest of the Jacksons make me sick.
Lainy
08-11-2010, 04:28 PM
Yep I agree! Michael's life was a hot mess. Imagine how he felt if we feel this way. I cannot even believe he was able to withstand all this drama as long as he did.
A true hero for sure!
I'm just shocked at what's happening today. Michael is a Hero, no doubt. God bless him.
MsCassieMollie
08-11-2010, 04:35 PM
"You know what broke my heart more than anything else in this world? When people at the hospital told us, 'You can leave now,' and Paris and Prince said, 'Where are we going?'" Katherine said.
That just broke my heart. :( I thought they were in the hospital room with him?
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