Update: Behind the Scenes on Jan 28th 8PM ET OWN Channel / Katherine Jackson May Be 'Oprah' Bound

[Alma]

Those babies are so incredibly unphased by their father's status. They are so humble and unpretentious.

Through all this evil madness clearly going on, I put my hope in these 3 children. Their answers seem to indicate they're somehow still well guarded. By Michael. They exude some kind of a mind-blowing peace and serenity. When their father was here in person, he always protected them. Firmly. He is still doing that. Like he never left. His love could not end with his departure. And to me it's clear by how the children handle themselves, that shows some strong soul is watching over them and dwelling in their chest. Michael was a strong deep soul and it shows.

[Autumn II]

Is there no decency left in the world???

I have to continue to believe that there is SOME decency left in the world. Not much, but some?

Michael's children are intelligent, and I do hope that when they are older they can sort all this out for themselves.

This played right into the hands of Murray's defense, as we feared it would.

Michael was NOT "an addict," of anything. It is for us to continue to carry the truth.

[afgtnk]

Hey does anyone know if the interviews are on Youtube?

[Moulin Rouge]

they go on about addictions yet dont know if murray murdered him. stupid ppl

my heart breaks over the kids talking about him.


Why don't you calm down, his kids lost their father but his mother also lost her son whom she gave birth to and raised. Do you have kids? have you had to bury your child, twice?(Brandon & Michael)

Katherine has been clear since the day she attened the first court date that she wants justice for her son, we all know murray killed him intentionally or not but some people fans and family feel it's murder while other aren't convinced it is murder.

[MJStorm]

I just got here.

Please, someone tell me what happened or direct me to where I can read a summary,

PLEASE.

I do not have time to read 100 pages.

[ivy]

again from lipstick alley


Okay I know this wasn't meant to be funny but I lol'd when Blanket wiped his nose and then shook Oprah's hand. What a cute little boy he is. Blanket was the most shy. Oprah spoke with some other grand children. Some of Randy, Jermaine, and Rebbie's daughter. All of who were very poised and articulate. As expected they all have dreams of pursuing careers in the entertainment industry. Paris wants to be an actress, Prince wants to produce movies lol


Katherine said Paris room is full of pictures of Michael all over her wall. She doesn't understand how Paris can handle that. Paris is the strong one of the kids. Aww it was just so touching her talking about the kids. I think Paris got choked up talking about her dad. I know Oprah made her proud when she mentioned the speech Paris did at Mike's funeral. She told her it was at the moment the world got to see a different side of Michael. It humanized him.

[JMie]

did she really compare his nose to a toothpick??? oh my god, Michael, I am so sorry...

[CherubimII]

The "Jackson Family"
is even lover than I ever imagined.

[potpot]

I "kinda" understand why Mrs. K won't say Michael was murdered because I think she waiting for the facts come out in court hopefully SOON... That what i got out of it??? #justsayin Now her coming out and talking about the plastic surgeries was SOOO not necessary BUT this one I understand why because me and others on this forum questions why Mike have Alot of work done. BUT still uncalled for to even mention about it

[yaazgurl]

they go on about addictions yet dont know if murray murdered him. stupid ppl

my heart breaks over the kids talking about him.

I agree. They said this interview was about setting things straight and protecting Michael's legacy. Which legacy are they trying to protect? All I see is self interest in their actions. Seems like the kids part of the interview was the only real good in it. I hope they are able to hold on to those memories of their father.

[potpot]

That means she can't question about and doesn't know what really went down.

So true..

[Moulin Rouge]

Tmz has a clip of katherine saying Murray told her Michael had passed.

http://www.tmz.com/2010/11/08/michael-jackson-dead-katherine-jackson-oprah-winfrey-video-conrad-murray/

It's sad but i thought Katherine said she hadn't spoke to murray. Wasn't the story that he fled the hospital before speaking to any family member? or maybe it was he didn't explain anything to them.

[blankyluvdoodoo]

did his own mother forgot about lupus and vitiligo?

[elusive moonwalker]

Why don't you calm down, his kids lost their father but his mother also lost her son whom she gave birth to and raised. Do you have kids? have you had to bury your child, twice?(Brandon & Michael)

Katherine has been clear since the day she attened the first court date that she wants justice for her son, we all know murray killed him intentionally or not but some people fans and family feel it's murder while other aren't convinced it is murder.

nothing to calm down over.i made a statement nothing more. the family need to make thier mind up as to whether he was a raving druggie or was murdered. or sick to talking about the tooth pic it does less damge to helping his killer walk free.

[Ashtanga]

again from lipstick alley



Okay I know this wasn't meant to be funny but I lol'd when Blanket wiped his nose and then shook Oprah's hand. What a cute little boy he is. Blanket was the most shy.



LOL

Go Blanket!!!!!!!! I loved it!!!! :wild:


Oprah >>>> :tease: :puke: :mat:

[xrisx]

Just reading what the kids said made me cry.
I have to wait a little while before I can watch this interview, I can't take it right now I think.

[PlatinumMJFan]

Please can someone upload it???

[ginvid]

It hasn't aired in most places yet. I think we have to wait until this afternoon.

[Noewi]

Could someone make a short transcript for non-english, please?

[Moulin Rouge]

Michael Jackson's Kids, Parents Join Oprah: Talk Plastic Surgery, Beatings and…French Toast?

It was a morning of firsts on the Oprah Winfrey Show.

For the first time, Katherine Jackson admitted that her son was addicted to plastic surgery. For the first time, after much umbrage taken with the term, Joe Jackson admitted that he beat his children. And for the first time, thanks to daughter Paris, the world learned about Michael Jackson's hidden talent.

Namely, making French toast.

The wide-ranging interview took place at the Jackson's Encino compound, and while it started out with Katherine, the duo was soon joined by Joe, then Paris, Prince Michael and the exceeding shy (yet pretty adorable) Blanket, along with the other Jackson kids that live at the house.

But mostly, it was about Michael, and while the topic of his controversial single and upcoming Sony album was not even remotely touched upon (the sitdown took place several weeks ago), Katherine did explain why she chose to release a book about her son, Never Can Say Goodbye.

"I wanted to do it for his fans and for the people that misunderstood him…I think of my son all through the day, all the time. I don't like to talk about him because I…," she said, tearing up. "It comes to my mind everyday, yes it does."

Despite the hardship clearly evident in discussing her son's life, Katherine didn't shy away from the talking points about her son, and proceeded to handle every question thrown at her.

First up: plastic surgery. Katherine said that Michael hated his appearance beginning in adolescence and one day announced he would be getting a nose job.

"He didn't want to start looking 'like a spotted cow,' he said," Katherine explained of his multiple skin surgeries to treat his vitiligo. "I don't know what in the world he did to change that, but he did."

As for Michael's claim on Oprah several years ago that he only ever underwent two surgeries in his life, both on his nose, Katherine said, "He had more than two, he was just embarrassed."

"I hear that people get addicted to plastic surgery, and I think that's what happened to him. I said, that's enough."

Though neither he nor his plastic surgeon, with whom Katherine also had a word, listened.

Next up for talking points, Michael's marriage to Lisa Marie Presley.

"It was a surprise for me, he called me after he had married her," Katherine said, saying that Michael put Lisa Marie on the phone to speak with her, though she didn't believe at first that she was actually talking to Presley.

"She had a heavy voice and I didn't know that," she said, adding in a whisper (and yielding some laughs from Winfrey), "She sounded like a black girl."

The majority of the interview, however, was spent discussing Michael's death on June 25, and the life choices that led to that tragic day.

"The worst day of my life," a teary Katherine began. "My heart dropped. And so they called me and said come to the hospital. Michael's in the hospital."

She said that she had an immediate feeling that he might be dead, but that nobody would tell her anything for some time.

"I kind of felt it, but I was wishing that it wouldn't be…They made the doctor tell me. The doctor had to tell us…Dr. Murray."

Yes, that would be Dr. Conrad Murray.

"He came out, and he was talking and it took him so long." Finally, Katherine asked, "Did he make it?"

"He said, 'No, he's gone.' That's all I remember," she said, tearing up. "I'm sorry."

As for Murray, who is facing an involuntary manslaughter charge for Jackson, Katherine said she's thought "a thousand times" what she would say to him.

"Why didn't he take care of my child? Why did he give that [propofol] to him? It's very dangerous, why did he do it?

"I can't accuse him of murder, I don't know if it was accidentally done or it was intentionally done. I don't want to get into that, but I have my thoughts…I don't think I'll ever, ever be healed….It hurts."

Also hurtful was Michael's drug addiction, which he continually denied, even as the family attempted to hold an intervention.

"I spoke to him about [drugs] once, when I had heard it and he denied it. I was telling him I didn't want to one day hear that he had overdosed because it would break my heart…He kept saying, 'My own mother don't believe me.'

"Part of me wanted to believe him, but I didn't believe him."

Katherine said that the hardships in Michael's life led to his addiction, specifically naming his trial for child-molestation as a turning point.

"All his life he had to go through stuff like this and it was trying on him," she said, adding that she never once questioned his innocence. "'I'd rather slit my own wrists than hurt a child,' he'd always say that."

The duo was then joined by Joe Jackson, and both he and Katherine insisted, despite nearly universal beliefs to the contrary, that they were not divorced.

Oprah wasted no time in pressing him on his relationship with Michael, particularly his child's claims that he was severely beaten as a boy, something which Joe has always denied.

And today was no different, though this time around, Katherine had had just about enough.

"I don't think he was afraid of me," Joe began. "I never beat him. That never happened."

"You might as well admit it, that's the way black people raised their children," Katherine interjected. "He used a strap."

That settles that, then.

"I don't [regret the beatings]," Joe said. "It kept them out of jail and kept them right."

Oprah then gathered all the children together to chat about their father and their current life.

Paris and Prince Michael are now enrolled in regular school (with eyes toward being an actress and music and movie producer, respectively), though Blanket, the most shy of the bunch, is still being home schooled. However, that might change next year, when he will be ready to enter the fourth grade.

The children were asked about their childhoods, in particular going out in public with masks and veils on their heads—something Katherine noted earlier was not Michael's idea, but actually the brainchild of the kids' biological mother Debbie Rowe.

None of them seemed to have any problem with the unusual disguises.

"When we did go out without our dad, other people wouldn't recognize us," Paris explained. "He tried to raise us without [us] knowing who he was, but that didn't go so well."

"I kinda felt like no one understands what a good father he was," she said. "I'd say he was the best cook ever. He was just a normal dad, except he was the best dad.

"He made the best French toast in the world." Who knew?

"A day doesn't pass," Katherine said. "Sometimes I just hate myself for thinking about it. It's something I just can't help. I think about it with a smile sometimes. Things he used to do when he was a little boy. He always stays on my mind. His memory is with me. They can never take that away."

http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b210010_michael_jacksons_kids_parents_join.html?cm pid=rss-000000-rssfeed-365-topstories&utm_source=eonline&utm_medium=rssfeeds&utm_campaign=rss_topstories

[BunnyHead]

I saw Katherine's face in the commercial......I wanted to cry :(

I will not judge Katherine's words ever, I know she loved her son to pieces, she stood by him in his darkest hours.

I can't wait for them to put Oprah in check!

[StacyJ]

Michael's kids make me cry. The rest of the Jacksons make me sick.


I totally agree..

[MJJ:G.O.A.T]

Yeah, they all knew about his "supposed" problem, but that didn't stop them from BEGGING him to go on stage with the brothers again, including Janet as the opening act (her words).

Joe, the brothers, Janet, Katherine, Rowe, and All Good Entertainment, collectively were BEGGING Michael to perform again. Yet we are supposed to believe that he had some big drug addiction.

I was holding out hope, but Katherine Jackson has disappointed me very badly today. She had an opportunity to set a bunch of things straight, but so far, she is failing, in my opinion.

Oprah must be delighted!

And the tabloids should send Mrs. Jackson massive amounts of flowers for the headlines she's giving them.


What I meant was I have not heard anyone who saw the interview say Katherine said Michael was in denial about drugs, The plastic surgery line was low and I expect better from his Mother. This is a lady who defends her other children when they are clearly in the wrong


did his own mother forgot about lupus and vitiligo?

I honestly don't know why she would answer like that. This is so disappointing. :no: Look at the articles we are getting from this: Michael was a drug addict and addicted to plastic surgery. More and more marks on his name. The media doesn't care about interviews given by doctors and experts on his lupus and vitiligo. But when the family talks, its like they are infallible. Yeah, they are really setting the record straight now. :doh: Can it get any worse?

[elusive moonwalker]

Michael's kids make me cry. The rest of the Jacksons make me sick.
agree. so upsetting hearing the kids talk about their dad. what is it with the jacksons are they the thickest family in showbiz or are they that obsessed with $ they will say anything god help mjs babies being raised around them.they are being used just like their dad was


it did make me smile though when paris said about mj trying to raise them without them knowing. and it failing lol had pics of us outide hotels and mobbing mj and him creating some funny excuse for it

[angelofinnocence]

I'm quite disappointed by some of Katherine's comments.

[Snowflake]

Please upload the video! Please!!!

[CherubimII]

I pray that no one will be able to take away from Michael's childen their own precious memories of their father.
Please pray without ceasing for the well-being of
Michael Jackson's children: Prince, Paris, and Blanket. :angel:

[Sophielo]

What Michael's beautiful children said, I just can't stop crying. God bless those amazing kids.

[*Little Suzie*]

Here is a little preview of Oprah talking to kids..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TUDpmvErbg

[JMie]

I am so pessimistic today that I think that by the time the kids grow up they will be totally brainwashed by the rest of the family

[MJJ:G.O.A.T]

"I don't think he was afraid of me," Joe began. I never beat him. That never happened."

"You might as well admit it, that's the way black people raised their children," Katherine interjected. "He used a strap."

That settles that, then.

"I don't [regret the beatings]," Joe said. "It kept them out of jail and kept them right."

http://i41.tinypic.com/bdny9w.jpg

Kept them out of jail? Except for Randy. Kept them right? What about Randy beating his wife, Enid claiming Jackie beat her and numerous other examples I could use to show that the boys learned from Joe that cheating on your wife is fine. Then of course there are the things Jermaine and Randy have done to Michael. Such character!

Spanking a child is one thing. But Michael was obviously deathly afraid of his father. What he received was not just regular punishment and its not a normal way to discipline your child.

[Tipareth]

This can't be real what we're witnessing.

I am in shock, I feel like dying inside all over again..... :(

[*Little Suzie*]

Randy beated his wife ? :shock:
Asshole...

[Moonwalker.Fan]

HAS SOMEBODY RECORDED THAT INTERVIEW YET?

(almost) All fans outside the USA want to watch this.....

[JMie]

"You might as well admit it, that's the way black people raised their children,"

so I see Katherine doesn't see anything wrong about it either. smh.

[Thetruthbetold]

I am proud of MJ and how he rasied them I know this interview is going to make many people emotional and as for Oprah it is what it is everybody knew she was going to ask the unthinkable questions. I think god for the strength that MJ had and all the people who continue to stand behind him and not believe what the media say all that Druggie bullshit will be put to rest soon but until then the world is going to be tune it to Oprah Mayhem show

[Dangerous 1991 HIStory]

so I see Katherine doesn't see anything wrong about it either. smh.

That's logical. She never stood up for her own kids, which means only one thing - she thinks it's OK.

[MsCassieMollie]

A clip of the Mama Kat and kids speaking from the interview!:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TUDpmvErbg

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[Thetruthbetold]

http://i41.tinypic.com/bdny9w.jpg

Kept them out of jail? Except for Randy. Kept them right? What about Randy beating his wife, Enid claiming Jackie beat her and numerous other examples I could use to show that the boys learned from Joe that cheating on your wife is fine. Then of course there are the things Jermaine and Randy have done to Michael. Such character!

Spanking a child is one thing. But Michael was obviously deathly afraid of his father. What he received was not just regular punishment and its not a normal way to discipline your child.

You really think J.Jackson is going to tell what really went down back in the days?? I refused to talk about it cause the Jacksons boys went through some hard times just to please that man cause he wanted them to be the greatest black boy group ever thats all i will say. As for Randy child please i can tell u a million stories he was the thug out of all his brothers Joe had to defend his character bad enough the media dragged him badly

[CherubimII]

"you might as well admit it, that's the way black people raised their children,"

This is a damn lie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Ashtanga]

I am in shock, I feel like dying inside all over again..... :(

I feel the same way. :cry:





A clip of the Mama Kat and kids speaking from the interview!:

5TUDpmvErbg


PPB... :cry: :heart: *big sigh*

[Big Apple2]

Man, for real, Joe Jackson needs to give it up, when it comes to explaining the "beatings."

Seriously, "he didn't BEAT them, he used a strap." In MY book it's all the same and Joe Jackson's attempt to explain makes no sense, in my opinion.

[CherubimII]

Evil has a name: Oprah Winfrey.

[yaazgurl]

I'm quite disappointed by some of Katherine's comments.

I don't understand why Katherine can say on Dateline that she never saw anything about drugs concerning Michael but she tells Oprah she never believed him when he said he wasn't addicted. She said on dateline he was always himself.

She also said a few years back that MJ sought depigmentation treatment due to his vitiligo but now she says she didn't know what he did but he did something.

This is a interview of dreams for the tabloid. I still wonder what legacy the Jacksons are shouting that they want to protect.

[ilmjj]

[QUOTE=CherubimII;3058183]I pray that no one will be able to take away from Michael's childen their own [B]precious memories of their father.[COLOR=navy]
I am praying with you. I am at work so I haven't been able to watch the interview and in all honesty I don't think I will.
Did Katherine really say Michael was a drug addict and addicted to plastic surgery? To share such intimate details about his life and his mom of all people!
I saw where tjjackson tweeted his outrage about Michaels new song and how important Michaels legacy is to them. But it's ok to have is legacy be that of a drug addict and plastic surgery addict?
I am broken. Both my heart and my spirit. His own family won't fight for Michael then why should I? This has been a horrible weekend and an even worse day.
You guys should be glad I am not John Branca or John McClain because I would throw in the towel and watch them run Michael further into the ground.
Screw you I would say!
Will the beautiful memories these kids have be replaced by what the family is saying?

Well to quote LMP I am "gutted" I guess Michael was to...

I am crying like it is 06/25/09 all over again. I am so sorry Michael. I am devastated.

[MJJ:G.O.A.T]

You really think J.Jackson is going to tell what really went down back in the days?? I refused to talk about it cause the Jacksons boys went through some hard times just to please that man cause he wanted them to be the greatest black boy group ever thats all i will say. As for Randy child please i can tell u a million stories he was the thug out of all his brothers Joe had to defend his character bad enough the media dragged him badly

Nope, I know Joe is never going to admit to what really happened. He's justifying it to himself. He doesn't want to sound like a monster. But he went too far with Michael. Katherine and Joe are just keeping up appearances. It doesn't look good for 'America's First Family of Music' to have an abusive father.

It just makes me :smilerolleyes: when this issue is rehashed again and Joe answers like a politician again.

Paris and Mike Jr. are beautiful. That boy's voice is so deep - he's growing fast. Paris; I love hearing her speak about her dad. I have a feeling she will be defending him in the years to come. She sounds so mature. God bless the 3 of them.

[ScrEAm.Jack5on]

A clip of the Mama Kat and kids speaking from the interview!:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TUDpmvErbg

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That breaks my damn heart.

From what Paris said, they obviously are well aware of the crap said about their father.

[Moonwalker.Fan]

Its unbelievable to see to heard the kids.... talking about his dad....

[yaazgurl]

I'm not even disappointed anymore because I know Michael is fine and I will see him in the resurrection. The only thing I wish is that he could be here for his children. But everyone else, I am glad he is not here to witness this. I don't feel there's anything more that can be done to distort who he was. Its likely his estate will stagnate because from now on there's an air of conspiracy surrounding it. Good job Jacksons.

[LoveMJackson]

A clip of the Mama Kat and kids speaking from the interview!:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TUDpmvErbg

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:cry: :cry:
Paris is so beautiful..heartbreaking to hear them talking about Michael. the best dad ever :(

[CherubimII]

I don't understand why Katherine can say on Dateline that she never saw anything about drugs concerning Michael but she tells Oprah she never believed him when he said he wasn't addicted. She said on dateline he was always himself.

She also said a few years back that MJ sought depigmentation treatment due to his vitiligo but now she says she didn't know what he did but he did something.

This is a interview of dreams for the tabloid. I still wonder what legacy the Jacksons are shouting that they want to protect.

"The Love of Money is the Root of All Evil."

[MsCassieMollie]

That breaks my damn heart.

From what Paris said, they obviously are well aware of the crap said about their father.

Agreed.

[JMie]

god bless those children.

[Sophielo]

That clip just broke me. I'm in tears right now. Such beautiful and intelligent kids.

[xrisx]

I don't understand why Katherine can say on Dateline that she never saw anything about drugs concerning Michael but she tells Oprah she never believed him when he said he wasn't addicted. She said on dateline he was always himself.

She also said a few years back that MJ sought depigmentation treatment due to his vitiligo but now she says she didn't know what he did but he did something.

This is a interview of dreams for the tabloid. I still wonder what legacy the Jacksons are shouting that they want to protect.

This is exactly what I was thinking. If only this whole interview wasn't done.
If they hadn't said anything at all it would have been way better.
It's gonna make so many doubters/haters go " I knew it! Forget what Michael himself said we have his own mother telling us this!"
I do feel bad for katherine in a way though. I don't think she realises just how much people pay attention to what she says.
Seeing / hearing the kids just breaks my heart. They don't deserve all of this. They sound so bright and well raised.

I am so upset right now, I don't know if I can take much more. I can't take all of this.
It's like getting punched in the stomach...over and over again.
Why is this happening!?

[Dianelesley]

Oh my - absolutely heartbreaking

[cleopatra09]

they are so beautiful,
the only thing i want now is Michael to be with them, and see them growing up,
see how beautiful and perfect children he has.

it hurts that he can't be with them, and can't feel the joy they could give him...

i just wanted him to see his beautiful children and be happy....

[ginvid]

I am praying with you. I am at work so I haven't been able to watch the interview and in all honesty I don't think I will.
Did Katherine really say Michael was a drug addict and addicted to plastic surgery? To share such intimate details about his life and his mom of all people!
I saw where tjjackson tweeted his outrage about Michaels new song and how important Michaels legacy is to them. But it's ok to have is legacy be that of a drug addict and plastic surgery addict?I am broken. Both my heart and my spirit. His own family won't fight for Michael then why should I? This has been a horrible weekend and an even worse day.
You guys should be glad I am not John Branca or John McClain because I would throw in the towel and watch them run Michael further into the ground.
Screw you I would say!
Will the beautiful memories these kids have be replaced by what the family is saying?

Well to quote LMP I am "gutted" I guess Michael was to...

I am crying like it is 06/25/09 all over again. I am so sorry Michael. I am devastated.

You hit the nail on the head. Let's see if the outrage on twitter is going to be just as clear from the so called "protectors" of MJ's legacy.:timer:

[CherubimII]

Yes, Michael Jackson's children know "the Jacksons" want the MONEY their father left them.
This is so heartbreaking.

[MJStorm]

This is exactly what I was thinking. If only this whole interview wasn't done.
If they hadn't said anything at all it would have been way better.
It's gonna make so many doubters/haters go " I knew it! Forget what Michael himself said we have his own mother telling us this!"
Seeing / hearing the kids just breaks my heart.

I am so upset right now, I don't know if I can take much more. I can't take all of this.
It's like getting punched in the stomach...over and over again.
Why is this happening!?

Forget Sony, doctors, false accusers, and all the rest. The greatest enemies of Michael Jackson are the relatives and self-proclaimed fans who believe that family..

[JMie]

^^ that's the heartbreaking truth.

is it any wonder Michael wanted to stay as far away from them as possible?

[Amber Dawn]

I'm really looking forward to watching this today.. I'm not as enthused bout the children being on it.. But whatever.. I'm sure it's going to be interesting anyway.


I'm not a HUGE Oprah fan and its not because of the michael thing.. I like how she gives to charity but i dont like how she always has to create a show bout giving to charity everytime she gives to charity lol KWIM.

[Ashtanga]

If only this whole interview wasn't done.
If they hadn't said anything at all it would have been way better.


:agree:

So true!!!!

[IvoryKeys]

Seriously! Did anyone else see Blanket WIPE HIS MOUTH and then proceed to shake hands with Oprah?!?!?!?! ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!

Aside from that, I thought those kids did great! I'm glad thy weren't the focal point of the show. Basically, there was no new news to report anyway, and Katherine was just giving her pov of everything that's happened. And it ended up the way I thought it'd be. Oprah didn't even ask any different questions. It was all the same stuff!

And I'm definitely not gonna worry about this anymore. The show is over. The kids are fine for what we can see. And their smart as hell. Katherine is obviously still grieving, and we can't expect her to get over this anytime soon. She's from a different generation so I'm not gonna even get started with her and Joe's comments. It's not worth re-hashing these old stories of Michael's childhood. The past is.....well....in the past.

[angelofinnocence]

sometimes there is power in silence. Michael taught us that. PP are so sweet and beautiful. Has anyone got the full upload yet?

[Amber Dawn]

Paris is Generous!

I don't know why and ya'll may thing I'm crazy but she reminds me of that little girl from "little miss sunshine" =)

[rsp2009]

Where can I watch this in the UK?

[CherubimII]

I agree. We do need to thank God that Prince, Paris, and Blanket are so intelligent. :yes:

[*Little Suzie*]

I think there are half hour back to watch I guess.

[elusive moonwalker]

they are so beautiful,
the only thing i want now is Michael to be with them, and see them growing up,
see how beautiful and perfect children he has.

it hurts that he can't be with them, and can't feel the joy they could give him...

i just wanted him to see his beautiful children and be happy....

:cry: so true. it hurts so much


I saw where tjjackson tweeted his outrage about Michaels new song and how important Michaels legacy is to them. But it's ok to have is legacy be that of a drug addict and plastic surgery addict?I
exactly. the priorities of that family are a joke. someone should tweet them that.

[SunsetDriver]

http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b210010_Michael_Jacksons_Kids_Parents_Join_Oprah_T alk_Plastic_Surgery_Beatings_andhellipFrench_Toast .html


Today 10:15 AM PST by Gina Serpe (http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/index.jsp?author=gina+serpe)

(http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/index.jsp?author=gina+serpe)
It was a morning of firsts on the Oprah Winfrey (http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/celebs/c115106_Oprah_Winfrey.html) Show.


For the first time, Katherine Jackson admitted that her son was addicted to plastic surgery. For the first time, after much umbrage taken with the term, Joe Jackson (http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/celebs/c112362_Joe_Jackson.html) admitted that he beat his children. And for the first time, thanks to daughter Paris, the world learned about Michael Jackson (http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/celebs/c114357_Michael_Jackson.html)'s hidden talent.
Namely, making French toast.


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The wide-ranging interview took place at the Jackson's Encino compound, and while it started out with Katherine, the duo was soon joined by Joe, then Paris, Prince Michael and the exceeding shy (yet pretty adorable) Blanket, along with the other Jackson kids that live at the house.
But mostly, it was about Michael, and while the topic of his controversial single (http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b209952_katherine_jackson_trying_thwart_sonys.html ) and upcoming Sony album (http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b209625_thrilled_new_michael_jackson_album_on.html ) was not even remotely touched upon (the sitdown took place several weeks ago), Katherine did explain why she chose to release a book about her son, Never Can Say Goodbye.
"I wanted to do it for his fans and for the people that misunderstood him…I think of my son all through the day, all the time. I don't like to talk about him because I…," she said, tearing up. "It comes to my mind everyday, yes it does."
Despite the hardship clearly evident in discussing her son's life, Katherine didn't shy away from the talking points about her son, and proceeded to handle every question thrown at her.
First up: plastic surgery. Katherine said that Michael hated his appearance beginning in adolescence and one day announced he would be getting a nose job.
"He didn't want to start looking 'like a spotted cow,' he said," Katherine explained of his multiple skin surgeries to treat his vitiligo. "I don't know what in the world he did to change that, but he did."
As for Michael's claim on Oprah several years ago that he only ever underwent two surgeries in his life, both on his nose, Katherine said, "He had more than two, he was just embarrassed."
"I hear that people get addicted to plastic surgery, and I think that's what happened to him. I said, that's enough."
Though neither he nor his plastic surgeon, with whom Katherine also had a word, listened.
Next up for talking points, Michael's marriage to Lisa Marie Presley (http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/celebs/c113874_Lisa_Marie_Presley.html).
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"It was a surprise for me, he called me after he had married her," Katherine said, saying that Michael put Lisa Marie on the phone to speak with her, though she didn't believe at first that she was actually talking to Presley.
"She had a heavy voice and I didn't know that," she said, adding in a whisper (and yielding some laughs from Winfrey), "She sounded like a black girl."
The majority of the interview, however, was spent discussing Michael's death on June 25, and the life choices that led to that tragic day.
"The worst day of my life," a teary Katherine began. "My heart dropped. And so they called me and said come to the hospital. Michael's in the hospital."
She said that she had an immediate feeling that he might be dead, but that nobody would tell her anything for some time.
"I kind of felt it, but I was wishing that it wouldn't be…They made the doctor tell me. The doctor had to tell us…Dr. Murray."
Yes, that would be Dr. Conrad Murray.
"He came out, and he was talking and it took him so long." Finally, Katherine asked, "Did he make it?"
"He said, 'No, he's gone.' That's all I remember," she said, tearing up. "I'm sorry."
As for Murray, who is facing an involuntary manslaughter charge for Jackson, Katherine said she's thought "a thousand times" what she would say to him.
"Why didn't he take care of my child? Why did he give that [propofol] to him? It's very dangerous, why did he do it?
"I can't accuse him of murder, I don't know if it was accidentally done or it was intentionally done. I don't want to get into that, but I have my thoughts…I don't think I'll ever, ever be healed….It hurts."
Also hurtful was Michael's drug addiction, which he continually denied, even as the family attempted to hold an intervention.
"I spoke to him about [drugs] once, when I had heard it and he denied it. I was telling him I didn't want to one day hear that he had overdosed because it would break my heart…He kept saying, 'My own mother don't believe me.'
"Part of me wanted to believe him, but I didn't believe him."
Katherine said that the hardships in Michael's life led to his addiction, specifically naming his trial for child-molestation as a turning point.
"All his life he had to go through stuff like this and it was trying on him," she said, adding that she never once questioned his innocence. "'I'd rather slit my own wrists than hurt a child,' he'd always say that."
The duo was then joined by Joe Jackson, and both he and Katherine insisted, despite nearly universal beliefs to the contrary, that they were divorced.
Oprah wasted no time in pressing him on his relationship with Michael, particularly his child's claims that he was severely beaten as a boy, something which Joe has always denied.
And today was no different, though this time around, Katherine had had just about enough.
"I don't think he was afraid of me," Joe began. "I never beat him. That never happened."
"You might as well admit it, that's the way black people raised their children," Katherine interjected. "He used a strap."
That settles that, then.
"I don't [regret the beatings]," Joe said. "It kept them out of jail and kept them right."
Oprah then gathered all the children together to chat about their father and their current life.
Paris and Prince Michael are now enrolled in regular school (with eyes toward being an actress and music and movie producer, respectively), though Blanket, the most shy of the bunch, is still being home schooled. However, that might change next year, when he will be ready to enter the fourth grade.
The children were asked about their childhoods, in particular going out in public with masks and veils on their heads—something Katherine noted earlier was not Michael's idea, but actually the brainchild of the kids' biological mother Debbie Rowe.
None of them seemed to have any problem with the unusual disguises.
"When we did go out without our dad, other people wouldn't recognize us," Paris explained. "He tried to raise us without [us] knowing who he was, but that didn't go so well."
"I kinda felt like no one understands what a good father he was," she said. "I'd say he was the best cook ever. He was just a normal dad, except he was the best dad.
"He made the best French toast in the world." Who knew?
"A day doesn't pass," Katherine said. "Sometimes I just hate myself for thinking about it. It's something I just can't help. I think about it with a smile sometimes. Things he used to do when he was a little boy. He always stays on my mind. His memory is with me. They can never take that away."
(Originally published on Nov. 8, 2010 at 9:09 a.m. PT)



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[MJStorm]

:cry: so true. it hurts so much


exactly. the priorities of that family are a joke. someone should tweet them that.

And do not forget that Taj was one of the supporters of that ridiculous interview.

Nobody in that family cares about Michael Jackson.

It is time for true fans to see the truth.

I'm sorry for Michael's mother, but She is the person to blame for the abuses that MJ suffered in childhood.

We can not be blind anymore.

[Ashtanga]

Seriously! Did anyone else see Blanket WIPE HIS MOUTH and then proceed to shake hands with Oprah?!?!?!?! ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!

LOL


Yes!!! Blanket is very intelligent. :wub:

Well done Oprah!!! >>> :tease: :puke:

[StaceyMJ]

Has this already been on?

[elusive moonwalker]

in some places in the usa yes

[xrisx]

I can't believe this. So Katherine in her own words (reading from the article on the last page) said that Michael told her he was not addicted but that she didn't believe him?
Seems to me she has always been influenced by other people regarding Michael when she wasn't around him.

I guess he really didn't have anyone to support him.
Seriously?! Again why did this interview happen?!
Devastating... We should be asking the family about this instead of the stupid song stuff.

[StaceyMJ]

OMG...:cry: That clip.

[mjmirror]

That clip brought a tear to my eye. Paris sounds so eloquent and mature there. Michael raised his children well. <3

[StacyJ]

And do not forget that Taj was one of the supporters of that ridiculous interview.

Nobody in that family cares about Michael Jackson.

It is time for true fans to see the truth.

I'm sorry for Michael's mother, but She is the person to blame for the abuses that MJ suffered in childhood.

We can not be blind anymore.



Exactly....

[MsCassieMollie]

:cry: so true. it hurts so much


exactly. the priorities of that family are a joke. someone should tweet them that.

Taj never tweeted that....

[MsCassieMollie]

And do not forget that Taj was one of the supporters of that ridiculous interview.

Nobody in that family cares about Michael Jackson.

It is time for true fans to see the truth.

I'm sorry for Michael's mother, but She is the person to blame for the abuses that MJ suffered in childhood.

We can not be blind anymore.

How the hell can you say that Michael's blood does not cared for Michael?

Btw I'm not a self-proclaimed fan...

Very aware.. RT @AngelaDF: @tajjackson3 Speaking for many fans here when I ask is your family aware of how much Oprah has disrespected MJ?

Getting many tweets abt Oprah. its vry important 2 not let that same audience of Oprah think wht Oprah said or thought in the past was tru.
Talked to my grandma before she did it.We all want to clear MJ’s name.That’s our first priority. We are trying to set the record straight .
I am the first person who is angry at Oprah and how she turned her back at my uncle. However you let things linger and the world believes.
I personally don’t care what Oprah thinks, but I do care what her millions of audience thinks about my uncle. Esp. when it’s not true at all

It’s time to set the record straight with everyone. RT @feuerkindjana: so bacically your family wants to set the record straight with O?

Me neither RT @planetpatrisse: @tajjackson3 cuz i did not like that so called tribute of hers

How unique & special MJ was. He was too good for this world RT @lexclue: What’s the thruth about him? What’s the most important truth 4 U?
Mj’s legacy is being shaped everyday. I owe it to my uncle to do everything in my power to keep it alive and erase all the untruths.

off to Coffee Bean. Talk to you guys later. Remember stay positive and together we can keep MJ’s legacy alive.

[MsCassieMollie]

The family (about 50) had a BIG dinner just few weeks before his death...

[blankyluvdoodoo]

yup it is time to show that our loyalties belong to Michael not to jackson family.
did any one ask taj ,taryll ,tj so according to them Michael's legacy is drug addiction ,plastic surgery addiction or they are still busy with the song.

[BunnyHead]

I can't believe people are so quick to turn their backs on Katherine and ridicule her.

Everyone is acting like she is trying to taint his name -__-

[StacyJ]

so Taj talked to his grandma about this Oprah interview and he felt his grandma would do good by MJ.. what the hell is going on? It sounds like to me Katherine is throwing her dead son under the bus.

[StacyJ]

I can't believe people are so quick to turn their backs on Katherine and ridicule her.

Everyone is acting like she is trying to taint his name -__-

Sounds to me like she is

[prismsagainst5live]

Katherine is still grieving terribly. She was in no fit state to do this interview but of course Howard Mann wants to get his monies worth so she has to promote her book, whether she's too fragile to fend off Oprah's disguting interview style or not.

[MJStorm]

How the hell can you say that Michael's blood does not cared for Michael?

I never said that. What else this family needs to do for "fans" like you get real?

[BunnyHead]

I can't believe this. So Katherine in her own words (reading from the article on the last page) said that Michael told her he was not addicted but that she didn't believe him?
Seems to me she has always been influenced by other people regarding Michael when she wasn't around him.

I guess he really didn't have anyone to support him.
Seriously?! Again why did this interview happen?!
Devastating... We should be asking the family about this instead of the stupid song stuff.

....So what if she didnt believe him.

I doubt her thoughts had to do with the media, but her observation as a mother. I'm not saying she was correct but nobody is perfect. She did support him, that's why she was concerned in the first place.

[xrisx]

Katherine is still grieving terribly. She was in no fit state to do this interview but of course Howard Mann wants to get his monies worth so she has to promote her book, whether she's too fragile to fend off Oprah's disguting interview style or not.

Exacly, this is why I wish this whole interview never happened.
It's great to see how smart and sweet the kids are but the whole thing just shouldn't have been done right now imo.

[elusive moonwalker]

Taj never tweeted that....

never tweeted what?

ppl get judged by their actions. how many more excuses are fans gonna make for certain individuals actions.

[*Little Suzie*]

Okay:
Where to watch it? I wanna see it now..

[MJStorm]

yup it is time to show that our loyalties belong to Michael not to jackson family.
did any one ask taj ,taryll ,tj so according to them Michael's legacy is drug addiction ,plastic surgery addiction or they are still busy with the song.

Oh my God. Thank you, thank you and thank you for saying that. There is still hope for fans and for MJ.

Unfortunately not all fans can see something obvious.

[BunnyHead]

Sounds to me like she is

How so?

I can't even with some of the replies in this thread so I will not comment anymore until I watch the interview.

Sending major love.

[xrisx]

....So what if she didnt believe him.

I doubt her thoughts had to do with the media, but her observation as a mother. I'm not saying she was correct but nobody is perfect. She did support him, that's why she was concerned in the first place.

I wasn't saying the media was influencing her, I think "associates" and "friends" were probably talking to her about this. Just like there are people right now surrounding her.
She had every right to be concerned when she heard something like that.
But why didn't she believe her own son on the matter?
Especially considering the fact that in the last interview she was still convinced nothing bad was going on and that he was acting normal.
Why the whole thing get's brought up is another thing. Either way he didn't die from that.

I just think the interview was a bad idea. For her as a grieving mother as well.

[blankyluvdoodoo]

....So what if she didnt believe him.

I doubt her thoughts had to do with the media, but her observation as a mother. I'm not saying she was correct but nobody is perfect. She did support him, that's why she was concerned in the first place.

if ur own mother does not believe u ,how on earth u think rest of the world is going to believe him.she is his mother,so she must know about lupus,vitiligo ,did she mention that ,what about his charity work ,did she talked about that?
as far the grieving part those kids lost only know parent,their world just turned upside down still they are holding his legacy high.just look at them and u can tell how well they are handling everthing.

[elusive moonwalker]

bottom line that woman should have never been allowed into mikes house and near his children.but the $$$ is all to much for some to refuse

[Ashtanga]

It's so simple: this interview should NEVER happen!!! :mat:

[Sophielo]

I never said that. What else this family needs to do for "fans" like you get real?

That's enough. I appreciate everyone's upset but there is no need for name calling each other.

[blankyluvdoodoo]

Oh my God. Thank you, thank you and thank you for saying that. There is still hope for fans and for MJ.

Unfortunately not all fans can see something obvious.

i know right ,it is like banging ur head on wall now a days.

[StaceyMJ]

Can everybody please just calm down? Arguing about it in here isn't going to change a thing. Just be civil, please! I don't have the patience for this, today especially.

Ten day bannings are still being issued for disrespect towards each other and for general tone destruction.

[Big Apple2]

I can't believe people are so quick to turn their backs on Katherine and ridicule her.

Everyone is acting like she is trying to taint his name -__-

I'm sorry, but "some" of the things Katherine Jackson revealed in this interview, she should have kept to herself. There is nothing wrong with keeping personal, private things to yourself.

Sitting around the kitchen table talking about family matters, is one thing, but when you get on a national stage, they are something totally different in my opinion. (Not to mention that she contradicted herself.)

I believed Michael would be CRUSHED if he knew his mother was on television talking about his nose and how she didn't believe him. I know I would be, if my mother shared those types of things with the public.

She was able to keep those thoughts to herself all of this time, why bother talking about them now.

Anyway, I thought this interview was to set the record straight. If so, I give their effort a big, fat FAIL!

[BunnyHead]

if ur own mother does not believe u ,how on earth u think rest of the world is going to believe him.she is his mother,so she must know about lupus,vitiligo ,did she mention that ,what about his charity work ,did she talked about that?
as far the grieving part those kids lost only know parent,their world just turned upside down still they are holding his legacy high.just look at them and u can tell how well they are handling everthing.

Don't forget this interview was most likely edited, just like the 1993 interview.

Katherine does not owe any of us an explanation, people are acting like she flat out trashed her son.

What about the times she endlessly defended him.

Katherine believing him has nothing to do with what the rest of the world thinks, look at the molesation crap. Anyone with sense knows it was bogus bullcrap, Katherine knows it was bullcrap,but people still insist he was a child molestor. It's obvious Michael had vitiligo and lupus but people insist he bleached his skin.

Don't blame Katherine or any other Jackson for other people's ignorance.

Why don't we just wait until it airs before dissing her?

Major L.O.V.E.

[AngieJ]

Katherine is still grieving terribly. She was in no fit state to do this interview but of course Howard Mann wants to get his monies worth so she has to promote her book, whether she's too fragile to fend off Oprah's disguting interview style or not.

Damn, what is the deal with this family? How are they letting this Mann guy manipulate her like this? I don't get it. A leech can come in that home and dictate what Katherine does? What the hell?

[yaazgurl]

Evil has a name: Oprah Winfrey.
I don't blame Oprah for this one. The tone of the interview could have been set another way and its not necessarily Oprah's job to do it. She is not there to represent Michael's best interest. The family is.

[elusive moonwalker]

on't blame Katherine or any other Jackson for other people's ignorance. what like calling him a druggie and the world believing it.u can make all the excuses up in the world but at the end of the day ppl make their own decisions and carry out their own actions. im sure hte kids love having their dad talked about like that. but hey they are probably brainwashed already after a year and a half with them

[ginvid]

Does anybody know how to upload something from your TV to your computer?

[BunnyHead]

what like calling him a druggie and the world believing it.u can make all the excuses up in the world but at the end of the day ppl make their own decisions and carry out their own actions

Exactly, people have been saying those things for years so Katherine's words don't make a difference what they think.

Katherine most likely had a different observation than the fabrication bandwagon.

[elusive moonwalker]

Exactly, people have been saying those things for years so Katherine's words don't make a difference what they thinkso that makes it ok then lol what a twisted logic.cant wait for them all to be crying fake tears when murrays walks. cause the jury think he was just a druggie.after all if the family say its true it must be. keep the excuses coming

[StacyJ]

Damn, what is the deal with this family? How are they letting this Mann guy manipulate her like this? I don't get it. A leech can come in that home and dictate what Katherine does? What the hell?

Exactly... where the hell are her children protecting her from these leeches?

[prismsagainst5live]

imma not comment anymore until the YT vid comes along.

[yaazgurl]

Katherine is still grieving terribly. She was in no fit state to do this interview but of course Howard Mann wants to get his monies worth so she has to promote her book, whether she's too fragile to fend off Oprah's disguting interview style or not.

But it defeats the purpose of selling any books. Who would care to buy this book now after what has been said? I certainly don't want to buy anything else they are peddling. I am glad the children did well and are in this interview although I did not want them to be interviewed because they are the only positive sound bites so far.

[JMie]

I think I've given up on the family completely now. I don't expect anything good from them anymore. This way I won't be disappointed when they give another interviw. I am tired of making excuses for them. I can't believe the things that were said during the interview. I don't blame Oprah for anything, it was given to her on a silver plate and being a professional talk show host that she is she just took it. There was a million ways Katherine could answer those questions, yet she went with this. A nose as thin as a toothpick??? Seriously???? If Michael had heard it, he would be humiliated and upset beyond belief. It's one thing to hear such a thing from a tabloid and quite another, to hear it from your own mother who you adore and worship like a saint. This is ultimate betrayal.

[Indra]

Damn, what is the deal with this family? How are they letting this Mann guy manipulate her like this? I don't get it. A leech can come in that home and dictate what Katherine does? What the hell?

I blame Oprah, no matter what, I will always blame her. There is no way I will ever get how that woman could do what she did to MJ and then do this and act like nothing happen. And the fact that people are buying it gets me even more mad. I blame her more and more the more I hear her, or see her.
I'm not happy with the Jackson family doing this, true, but Oprah is the one that I really really REALLY have a hard time with. Family is family, Oprah is just...... and some bad words.:no:

[StacyJ]

I think I've given up on the family completely now. I don't expect anything good from them anymore. This way I won't be disappointed when they give another interviw. I am tired of making excuses for them. I can't believe the things that were said during the interview. I don't blame Oprah for anything, it was given to her on a silver plate and being a professional talk show host that she is she just took it. There was a million ways Katherine could answer those questions, yet she went with this. A nose as thin as a toothpick??? Seriously???? If Michael had heard it, he would be humiliated and upset beyond belief. It's one thing to hear such a thing from a tabloid and quite another, to hear it from your own mother who you adore and worship like a saint. This is ultimate betrayal.

Exactly... she should be ashamed of herself... Feeding in to the tabloid crap.. I will never support anything a Jackson does ever again unless it's MJ's kids.

[elusive moonwalker]

Exactly... where the hell are her children protecting her from these leeches?

why would they care when half of the brood live off her. shes make money they get some.doesnt matter how its made

[blankyluvdoodoo]

I think I've given up on the family completely now. I don't expect anything good from them anymore. This way I won't be disappointed when they give another interviw. I am tired of making excuses for them. I can't believe the things that were said during the interview. I don't blame Oprah for anything, it was given to her on a silver plate and being a professional talk show host that she is she just took it. There was a million ways Katherine could answer those questions, yet she went with this. A nose as thin as a toothpick??? Seriously???? If Michael had heard it, he would be humiliated and upset beyond belief. It's one thing to hear such a thing from a tabloid and quite another, to hear it from your own mother who you adore and worship like a saint. This is ultimate betrayal.

i am going to agree with u .this is ultimate betrayal.

[twinklEE]

Michael's children will not take any kind of nonsense from anyone when it comes to their father the way Paris put Harpo in her place speaks volumes. Gob bless Michael Jackson's soul and children.

[smoothlugar]

I'm sorry, but "some" of the things Katherine Jackson revealed in this interview, she should have kept to herself. There is nothing wrong with keeping personal, private things to yourself.

Sitting around the kitchen table talking about family matters, is one thing, but when you get on a national stage, they are something totally different in my opinion. (Not to mention that she contradicted herself.)

She was able to keep those thoughts to herself all of this time, why bother talking about them now.


I cannot agree more.

For me all this is appalling and sad and leaves me speechless...

[blankyluvdoodoo]

Michael's children will not take any kind of nonsense from anyone when it comes to their father the way Paris put Harpo in her place speaks volumes. Gob bless Michael Jackson's soul and children.

hey u r back...........happy to see u again.

[*Little Suzie*]

The link to interview? :/ the full one..

[TheChosenOne]

Both the interviewer and interviewee are to blame here.

I am not surprised by this interview. I expected it and the fallout from it.

Giving the Jackson family the benefit of the doubt is a noble venture. And I hope they truly believe what they are saying. But Michael was always gracious in interviews when questioned about his family. However his family do not return the favour because now that he is gone there are no repercussions.

I am so incensced right now ...

[StacyJ]

why would they care when half of the brood live off her. shes make money they get some.doesnt matter how its made

very true.. I forgot she supports all of them except for Janet and LaToya

[elusive moonwalker]

I think I've given up on the family completely now. I don't expect anything good from them anymore. This way I won't be disappointed when they give another interviw. I am tired of making excuses for them. I can't believe the things that were said during the interview. I don't blame Oprah for anything, it was given to her on a silver plate and being a professional talk show host that she is she just took it. There was a million ways Katherine could answer those questions, yet she went with this. A nose as thin as a toothpick??? Seriously???? If Michael had heard it, he would be humiliated and upset beyond belief. It's one thing to hear such a thing from a tabloid and quite another, to hear it from your own mother who you adore and worship like a saint. This is ultimate betrayal.
:clapping:

[tragickingdom]

pQXterI31WY

it will be more than a hour before part 2 comes along.


thank me by +repping me. B)

[ginvid]

There's an error.

[ilmjj]

I'm not even disappointed anymore because I know Michael is fine and I will see him in the resurrection. The only thing I wish is that he could be here for his children. But everyone else, I am glad he is not here to witness this. I don't feel there's anything more that can be done to distort who he was. Its likely his estate will stagnate because from now on there's an air of conspiracy surrounding it. Good job Jacksons.

I love this post. I agree his own family is turning Michael into a joke. I am so happy Michael is in a better place and can't be hurt by this. But his children...
I would rather eat dirt than buy that book.

[MsCassieMollie]

That's enough. I appreciate everyone's upset but there is no need for name calling each other.

Thank you. Unfortunately a lot of the fans forgot about Michael's message about LOVE (he did has his issues with his fam but still...)

[*Little Suzie*]

pQXterI31WY

it will be more than a hour before part 2 comes along.


thank me by +repping me. B)

Gonna watch it now. :)

[Jessylex]

Some of the fans think that they knew and loved Michael more than his own family and what is worse, more than his own mother. He, I am sure, would be disgusted if he read some of your comments guys. Some of you are so hypocritical. It seems that you only would accept MJ the perfect. But he was not perfect just like none of us is.
I have loved him since I was 12 and I am 39 now. I loved him for his music and dance, for his humanitarianism, for the man he really was. I love him even if he did drugs, for he had a reason to do it. It is horrible to say, but he, just as his mother said, had a reason to do the things he did. I love him even if he did all these plastic surgery things. I do not care. It does not change the way he was as a human being,
You are trying to protect his legacy, but you are not doing it. You are insulting his mother, and tomorrow you are going to insult his kids if they say something that does not fit the build of MJ you created in your own heads.

I love him and will always love him no matter what. With or without drugs and plastic surgery, it was his soul that made him so special and precious in this cruel world.

[MsCassieMollie]

You guys NEED to see the WHOLE interview before judging.

[MsCassieMollie]

some of the fans think that they knew and loved michael more than his own family and what is worse, more than his own mother. He, i am sure, would be disgusted if he read some of your comments guys. Some of you are so hypocritical. It seems that you only would accept mj the perfect. But he was not perfect just like none of us is.
I have loved him since i was 12 and i am 39 now. I loved him for his music and dance, for his humanitarianism, for the man he really was. I love him even if he did drugs, for he had a reason to do it. It is horrible to say, but he, just as his mother said, had a reason to do the things he did. I love him even if he did all these plastic surgery things. I do not care. It does not change the way he was as a human being,
you are trying to protect his legacy, but you are not doing it. You are insulting his mother, and tomorrow you are going to insult his kids if they say something that does not fit the build of mj you created in your own heads.

I love him and will always love him no matter what. With or without drugs and plastic surgery, it was his soul that made him so special and precious in this cruel world.

well_said!!!!

[StacyJ]

You guys NEED to see the WHOLE interview before judging.


Did you see it?

[MJJ:G.O.A.T]

Its airing live now. Katherine just said Michael would tell her "I'm so ugly." Then she brings up that he just decided to get his nose done. Katherine says she doesn't know how he got his vitiligo 'fixed' and that he didn't want to look like a spotted cow. She is now saying he was addicted to plastic surgery and made the toothpick comment...LAWD. :(

[elusive moonwalker]

you are trying to protect his legacy, but you are not doing it. You are insulting his mother, and tomorrow you are going to insult his kids if they say something that does not fit the build of mj you created in your own heads.we are doing better than his own family at defending his legacy. they are the ones helping murrays defence they are the ones helping to re write history have u read the autopsy report? cause i didnt create that im my head.. they are the ones more concerned that a song is fake then their brothers.son own legacy. if they love him as the claim its about time started acting like it instead of crapping on him at every oppotunity. katheirne had the most wonderful son on the world but all we get is talk about plastic surgery. mj would be heart broken to see his own family talking about him this way and for allowing orka to get near his children. totally going against all his wishes about protecting his kids from the media. if the kids ever start talking the dsame way i doubt fans will hate cause most except that unless we are lucky they will end up brainwashed anyway by those who are around them. wont be their fault.murrays laughing all the way to freedom and the tabloids are joining in with him.

the family should look in the mirror about mjs surgeries. when u get told you are worthless and are ugly eventually u beging to believe it. i hope shes had the same conversations with latoya etc

[angelofinnocence]

well after watching part1, Katherine's comments watched in context are not as bad as I feared. She mentioned the vitiligo which I think is important.

[Memefan]

Michael's children will not take any kind of nonsense from anyone when it comes to their father the way Paris put Harpo in her place speaks volumes. Gob bless Michael Jackson's soul and children.


Yay...welcome back.

I emailed you...

[TheChosenOne]

Some of the fans think that they knew and loved Michael more than his own family and what is worse, more than his own mother. He, I am sure, would be disgusted if he read some of your comments guys. Some of you are so hypocritical. It seems that you only would accept MJ the perfect. But he was not perfect just like none of us is.
I have loved him since I was 12 and I am 39 now. I loved him for his music and dance, for his humanitarianism, for the man he really was. I love him even if he did drugs, for he had a reason to do it. It is horrible to say, but he, just as his mother said, had a reason to do the things he did. I love him even if he did all these plastic surgery things. I do not care. It does not change the way he was as a human being,
You are trying to protect his legacy, but you are not doing it. You are insulting his mother, and tomorrow you are going to insult his kids if they say something that does not fit the build of MJ you created in your own heads.

I love him and will always love him no matter what. With or without drugs and plastic surgery, it was his soul that made him so special and precious in this cruel world.

As the Team Leader for the Legacy Project, I want to address this.

Like you, I have loved Michael for ALL that he was. I do not require him to be perfect. And I do not require others to think him as perfect. But this man was villified, mocked, degraded and scorned for who he was and who he was perceived to be. I believe that, in death, Michael could start to receive the respect that was not given to him in life.

As Rev Sharpton said that some people like dealing in mess and not the message. And some of the things that Mrs Jackson said in that interview feeds in to the 'mess'.

Let us hope that she said things that focus on the message.

I cannot speak for everyone here but I feel the grouse is that she should not have had an interview with Oprah Winfrey, should not have included Michael's children and some of the things that she said should have remained unsaid.

[ginvid]

Katherine, Katherine. You make me so sad. Why would you say on TV that your son's nose looks like a toothpick. Even if that is how you felt. Why would you say he was addicted to plastic surgery when you know the media love to make fun of that aspect of his life? I just don't understand. I just don't. Why would she do that?

[Jessylex]

Sure you are. Jesus...

[yaazgurl]

I blame Oprah, no matter what, I will always blame her. There is no way I will ever get how that woman could do what she did to MJ and then do this and act like nothing happen. And the fact that people are buying it gets me even more mad. I blame her more and more the more I hear her, or see her.
I'm not happy with the Jackson family doing this, true, but Oprah is the one that I really really REALLY have a hard time with. Family is family, Oprah is just...... and some bad words.:no:

Someone made a great point. What about all the photos we got of the drawings of Michael? And Oprah was there for hours interviewing Katherine. Why not show a side of Michael that the world had no idea about? Paris did a good job when talking about her her dad cooked for her. But even discussing those tabloid rumors was a bad idea. Still I wonder what Oprah left out.

[MJJ:G.O.A.T]

Oh God, they are replaying the 911 call. I can't ....I'm muting this. :no:

[sharon007]

its live streaming right now the link is http://www.channelsurfing.net/watch-nbc.html

[Michael Jackson Moonwalk]

Some of the fans think that they knew and loved Michael more than his own family and what is worse, more than his own mother. He, I am sure, would be disgusted if he read some of your comments guys. Some of you are so hypocritical. It seems that you only would accept MJ the perfect. But he was not perfect just like none of us is.
I have loved him since I was 12 and I am 39 now. I loved him for his music and dance, for his humanitarianism, for the man he really was. I love him even if he did drugs, for he had a reason to do it. It is horrible to say, but he, just as his mother said, had a reason to do the things he did. I love him even if he did all these plastic surgery things. I do not care. It does not change the way he was as a human being,
You are trying to protect his legacy, but you are not doing it. You are insulting his mother, and tomorrow you are going to insult his kids if they say something that does not fit the build of MJ you created in your own heads.

I love him and will always love him no matter what. With or without drugs and plastic surgery, it was his soul that made him so special and precious in this cruel world.

My feelings exactly, so many fans on here are so so uptight about everything pertaining to Michael, like they have some kind of emotional copyright on him. He means a lot to many people, but come one, FAMILY IS FAMILY. You dont go around slating his mother, for crying out loud. You cant control what they do. If you love and support Michael, good! Carry on...but no need for jumping on anyone who says something that even slightly misaligned with YOUR image of Mike - cause if its that strong for you; it shouldn't matter what anyone says or does. Peace and chill :punk:

[xrisx]

I can't believe I let myself watch part one. All the pain and hurt has come back from June 25th.
I'm crying all over again. I can't deal with this. :(

[MJJ:G.O.A.T]

Oprah is so fake. Why is she holding Katherine's hand when its obvious doesn't think well of her dead son?

Katherine just said Paris was saying to Michael 'I want to be with you. Don't leave me. I want to go with you.' I'm crying right now... :(

[MJJ:G.O.A.T]

Katherine is saying MJ was addicted to drugs after the Pespi accident but that she didn't know that he was addicted for a long time...OMG :no:

So out of this we basically get MJ is A LONG TIME DRUG ADDICT :smilerolleyes: If Katherine is crying just recalling June 25th, I highly doubt she has read the autopsy report.

[di12]

its live streaming right now the link is http://www.channelsurfing.net/watch-nbc.html
thanks

[ginvid]

I don't even know sometimes why we bother even defending MJ. With some as long as they are family they get a free pass to do whatever they want. Say whatever they want. And if you disagree, you are the one MJ would disapprove of. It is such wicked and twisted thinking that it just makes me want to give up. I mean why bother? Let's just hand everything over to the family and let them run it and support them in whatever they do. They obviously have shown that they know best and they do everything for him.


Katherine is saying MJ was addicted to drugs after the Pespi accident but that she didn't know that he was addicted for a long time...OMG

She also said often when they say they are not doing drugs they are in denial. It seems someone fed her he was in denial and she is going with that.

[PCR]

Katherine, Katherine. You make me so sad. Why would you say on TV that your son's nose looks like a toothpick. Even if that is how you felt. Why would you say he was addicted to plastic surgery when you know the media love to make fun of that aspect of his life? I just don't understand. I just don't. Why would she do that?

I am devasted again.
Or maybe I no longer feel a thing.
Good MJ is just having the peace and rest he deserves and he can't no longer be hurt by this mess.

[Driver]

Amen to this post.


Some of the fans think that they knew and loved Michael more than his own family and what is worse, more than his own mother. He, I am sure, would be disgusted if he read some of your comments guys. Some of you are so hypocritical. It seems that you only would accept MJ the perfect. But he was not perfect just like none of us is.
I have loved him since I was 12 and I am 39 now. I loved him for his music and dance, for his humanitarianism, for the man he really was. I love him even if he did drugs, for he had a reason to do it. It is horrible to say, but he, just as his mother said, had a reason to do the things he did. I love him even if he did all these plastic surgery things. I do not care. It does not change the way he was as a human being,
You are trying to protect his legacy, but you are not doing it. You are insulting his mother, and tomorrow you are going to insult his kids if they say something that does not fit the build of MJ you created in your own heads.

I love him and will always love him no matter what. With or without drugs and plastic surgery, it was his soul that made him so special and precious in this cruel world.

[angelofinnocence]

BUT I have to the say the toothpick comment was uncalled for.

[smoothlugar]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQXterI31WY&feature=player_embedded
PART 1 INTERVIEW
PD: Probably by the time this post is approved, it will have already just been put. If that's the case, moderators can omit it.

PD2: Sorry, I saw the link in another forum and hadn't seen TragicKingom had already posted his video.

[suzynyc]

Katherine is saying MJ was addicted to drugs after the Pespi accident but that she didn't know that he was addicted for a long time...OMG :no:

Well, she did specify pain killers, isn't this what happened?

I'm listening to the interview now. She also specified to Oprah that it was an overdose of Propofol that killed Michael, not just drugs or any old prescription drugs.

[elusive moonwalker]

Katherine, Katherine. You make me so sad. Why would you say on TV that your son's nose looks like a toothpick. Even if that is how you felt. Why would you say he was addicted to plastic surgery when you know the media love to make fun of that aspect of his life? I just don't understand. I just don't. Why would she do that?

exactly. plain stupidity. shame

[MJJ:G.O.A.T]

I don't even know sometimes why we bother even defending MJ. With some as long as they are family they get a free pass to do whatever they want. Say whatever they want. And if you disagree, you are the one MJ would disapprove of. It is such wicked and twisted thinking that it just makes me want to give up. I mean why bother? Let's just hand everything over to the family and let them run it and support them in whatever they do. They obviously have shown that they know best and they do everything for him.


She also said often when they say they are not doing drugs they are in denial. It seems someone fed her he was in denial and she is going with that.

Totally agree with the top bit. The bottom bit - I think it's Randy.

[xPrincessx]

Cannot believe Oprah asked Katherine THAT question!

[elusive moonwalker]

I don't even know sometimes why we bother even defending MJ. With some as long as they are family they get a free pass to do whatever they want. Say whatever they want. And if you disagree, you are the one MJ would disapprove of. It is such wicked and twisted thinking that it just makes me want to give up. I mean why bother? Let's just hand everything over to the family and let them run it and support them in whatever they do. They obviously have shown that they know best and they do everything for him.


She also said often when they say they are not doing drugs they are in denial. It seems someone fed her he was in denial and she is going with that.

exactly family stans will defend them no matter what regardless of what they do


but no need for jumping on anyone who says something that even slightly misaligned with YOUR image of Mike - csame could go for others aswell. sorry if i prefer the facts of the autopsy to ppl who admitted they hadnt seen mj in years b4 his death.


Katherine just said Paris was saying to Michael 'I want to be with you. Don't leave me. I want to go with you.' I'm crying right now...
no words for that.

[Lorraine]

pQXterI31WY

it will be more than a hour before part 2 comes along.


thank me by +repping me. B)

OMG! :boohoo: :(

[oceanborn]

This is just so heartbreaking... All over again :cry:

[ScrEAm.Jack5on]

pQXterI31WY

it will be more than a hour before part 2 comes along.


thank me by +repping me. B)

Oh katherine.... all I'll do is sigh

She revealed too much already. She was nervous. She's in her own home so she's more off-guard, but then again she let Oprah in. This should never have happened.

It is painly obvious she loves her son and is still emotional about his death. She is making mistakes though. She seems quite clueless about certain things..she must rely on what other people tell her. Is Randy still camping out at Hayvenhurst?

[earthlyme]

WTF "o"!!! HOW could u ask the Mother of a child if her child was on drugs when he went to The court in his Pijamas!!! WTF IS WRONG WITH HER??? B*!

[ginvid]

Well, she did specify pain killers, isn't this what happened?

I'm listening to the interview now. She also specified to Oprah that it was an overdose of Propofol that killed Michael, not just drugs or any old prescription drugs.

No it is not true. Oprah asked her if she knew it was perscription drugs that killed him. Katherine said she did not know at the time it was perscription drugs, she had only heard of the propofol.
Then Oprah asked her if she knew Mj had to take drugs to get through the day, etc (Ican't remember it all). Then Katherine says she knew he had to take stuff since from the Pepsi accident.
Oprah asks her if there were interventions. She said the kids told her about a them. Then she says Mj was in denial.

She in no way clears up the idea that MJ did not die as a raging pill popper, but adds to it. She also does not make the person aware ofpropofol versus persription drugs.

[MJJ:G.O.A.T]

Well, she did specify pain killers, isn't this what happened?

I'm listening to the interview now. She also specified to Oprah that it was an overdose of Propofol that killed Michael, not just drugs or any old prescription drugs.

We don't know for sure that he developed an addiction immediately after the Pespi accident. We can't claim that for certain. At one point, he did have a problem in the 1990s, but to claim he was addicted the majority of his life? His liver doesn't match up with that.

Yeah, Katherine said Propofol but Oprah kept saying prescription drugs OVER and OVER. Oprah even suggested that Michael was high when he went to court.

[ilmjj]

Katherine is saying MJ was addicted to drugs after the Pespi accident but that she didn't know that he was addicted for a long time...OMG :no:

So out of this we basically get MJ is A LONG TIME DRUG ADDICT :smilerolleyes: If Katherine is crying just recalling June 25th, I highly doubt she has read the autopsy report.

Didn't Karen Faye say it wasn't after the pepsi accident but after scalp surgery during the Dangerous era?

I feel like Michaels reputation has totally gone down the toilet. I too had hope he would get the respect in death that he never got in life. I guess that was too much to ask.

He got shredded in the Oprah interview today and now with the Breaking News controversy my fear is he will never be taken seriously.

[yaazgurl]

I am devasted again.
Or maybe I no longer feel a thing.
Good MJ is just having the peace and rest he deserves and he can't no longer be hurt by this mess.

I do not feel anything anymore except peace that MJ is at peace. I am not riled by their actions anymore since I've seen this fiasco played out since 10/10 when I first heard that an interview has been taped. It was peak for me last night with the fiasco over the song. I wasn't expecting anything else to come good from them. Since MJ's death people have shown their true character and the only perception that has changed for me is how I view the Jacksons not Michael.

[elusive moonwalker]

No it is not true. Oprah asked her if she knew it was perscription drugs that killed him. Katherine said she did not know at the time it was perscription drugs, she had only heard of the propofol.
Then Oprah asked her if she knew Mj had to take drugs to get through the day, etc (Ican't remember it all). Then Katherine says she knew he had to take stuff since from the Pepsi accident.
Oprah asks her if there were interventions. She said the kids told her about a them. Then she says Mj was in denial.

She in no way clears up the idea that MJ did not die as a raging pill popper, but adds to it. She also does not make the person aware ofpropofol versus persription drugs.

:no: when murray walks it will be their fault. but hey they will be able to go on oprah again:smilerolleyes:


Well, she did specify pain killers, isn't this what happened?
he developed an addiction around 93 due to the surgeries on his scalp which is well documented. theres no evidence of anything b4. so now with the help of the jacksons and presley mj was a raging addict since the early 80's none stop till his death. i have to say im amazed at how healthy his organs were for someone who was an addict for 30 years.all this shows is how cluelss the family are about mj. they are like the general public.beleive any old shit that is put to them about their own family member.even more so when its started by one of their own


Yeah, she said Propofol but Oprah kept saying prescription drugs OVER and OVER. Oprah even suggested that Michael was high when he went to court.
oprahs obsessed with showing mj as raving drug addicted pedo. and the family walk right into it every time.

[MJJ:G.O.A.T]

No it is not true. Oprah asked her if she knew it was perscription drugs that killed him. Katherine said she did not know at the time it was perscription drugs, she had only heard of the propofol.
Then Oprah asked her if she knew Mj had to take drugs to get through the day, etc (Ican't remember it all). Then Katherine says she knew he had to take stuff since from the Pepsi accident.
Oprah asks her if there were interventions. She said the kids told her about a them. Then she says Mj was in denial.

She in no way clears up the idea that MJ did not die as a raging pill popper, but adds to it. She also does not make the person aware ofpropofol versus persription drugs.

Exactly. It's like a big bonfire getting larger and larger. :mello: I'm sure Murray is pleased.

[Sophielo]

God what Katherine said Paris said at the end of the first part broke my heart. Michael Jackson is many things to all of us but to that girl he was her beloved father who she didn't want to live without. Just breaks my heart they have to go through all this :cry:

[goldiee]

Its airing live now. Katherine just said Michael would tell her "I'm so ugly." Then she brings up that he just decided to get his nose done. Katherine says she doesn't know how he got his vitiligo 'fixed' and that he didn't want to look like a spotted cow. She is now saying he was addicted to plastic surgery and made the toothpick comment...LAWD. :(

:no:

MJJ:GOAT, tell me this is just a dream. You're in my dream too and we will wake up and this isn't happening. It can't be. We're in an alternate universe. Can you tell me that?

[ginvid]

I do not feel anything anymore except peace that MJ is at peace. I am not riled by their actions anymore since I've seen this fiasco played out since 10/10 when I first heard that an interview has been taped. It was peak for me last night with the fiasco over the song. I wasn't expecting anything else to come good from them. Since MJ's death people have shown their true character and the only perception that has changed for me is how I view the Jacksons not Michael.

That is exactly how I feel. Exactly. My perception of them has been irrevocably damaged. My perception of all them.

[CherubimII]

Both Katherine and Joe Jackson are addicted to fame and
Michael's Money.

[MJJ:G.O.A.T]

Katherine, Katherine. You make me so sad. Why would you say on TV that your son's nose looks like a toothpick. Even if that is how you felt. Why would you say he was addicted to plastic surgery when you know the media love to make fun of that aspect of his life? I just don't understand. I just don't. Why would she do that?

I totally agree. SMH at this.


I think I've given up on the family completely now. I don't expect anything good from them anymore. This way I won't be disappointed when they give another interviw. I am tired of making excuses for them. I can't believe the things that were said during the interview. I don't blame Oprah for anything, it was given to her on a silver plate and being a professional talk show host that she is she just took it. There was a million ways Katherine could answer those questions, yet she went with this. A nose as thin as a toothpick??? Seriously???? If Michael had heard it, he would be humiliated and upset beyond belief. It's one thing to hear such a thing from a tabloid and quite another, to hear it from your own mother who you adore and worship like a saint. This is ultimate betrayal.

I feel you. :no: It's a mess. Michael would be hurt and embarrassed.

[PurpleParrot]

thanks for the link to youtube.

At least, since Katherine said that Michael is dead, maybe it'll wake up some believers, as hard as it can be.

[Tsukiji]

Promoting the book that has those leeches involved..... :no: :(

[MJJ:G.O.A.T]

:no:

MJJ:GOAT, tell me this is just a dream. You're in my dream too and we will wake up and this isn't happening. It can't be. We're in an alternate universe. Can you tell me that?

I wish. I wish. I have just been cringing at certain parts of this interview. Now people will go away from this interview believing he was a out of control drug addict for 25 years despite the autopsy report which says his liver was normal. My God...:no: Michael, Michael...

[Big Apple2]

Katherine Jackson just gave Murray's mouth-piece a nice little soundbite.

Remember in the very beginning, before the autopsy was released and Chernoff was going around talking about "Michael's little problem."

Well now he can continue talking about Michael's little problem (even if it's not true), he can now add: "even Michael's mother knew about his little problem."

I'm so upset right now!

[StaceyMJ]

My heart is breaking on Michael's behalf. Imagine your own mother talking about you and your life on TV like this. What an awful shame.

[oceanborn]

I'm glad Michael is not here to witness all this happening :no:
It seems that now there's just us, his fans, to keep his legacy alive. Nobody else. How can it be like that?? I hope the Jacksons will not brainwash Michael's children too...I hope they will still cherish their memories of their father forever.
This is a really bad day :cry:

[MJJ:G.O.A.T]

OMG Katherine is straight up lying! She's claiming she never filed for divorce. :smilerolleyes: She filed for sure but never went through with it.

[ilmjj]

You guys should see me. My life is a mess and I look a mess. But God bless my mother. She must wear rose colored glasses because to her I am walking perfection. Katherine, what made you do this today? I feel Michaels humiliation and it is at the hands of his own mother!!

[blankyluvdoodoo]

katherine lied about her divorce filling completely ,she is saying kids are doing things that they never did,they are happy ,she also disapprove the way he was raising his kids .way to go smh

[A. Sizzle]

Joe was at every recording session he ever did.

And Katherine called him on the beatings. "You might as well admit it... he used a strap."

I laughed.

[oceanborn]

My heart is breaking on Michael's behalf. Imagine your own mother talking about you and your life on TV like this. What an awful shame.

He would be so embarrassed... Oh my god :cry: He just doesn't deserve all this happening.

[Sophielo]

Put it this way I wouldn't be happy if I was famous and my family went on TV telling them all this disparaging stuff about me.

[PCR]

I'm not even disappointed anymore because I know Michael is fine and I will see him in the resurrection. The only thing I wish is that he could be here for his children. But everyone else, I am glad he is not here to witness this. I don't feel there's anything more that can be done to distort who he was. Its likely his estate will stagnate because from now on there's an air of conspiracy surrounding it. Good job Jacksons.

Yes, I loooonggg for that day too.
I totally, totally agree.
100000%.
Thanks for saying this.
:hug:

[*Little Suzie*]

I'm glad Michael is not here to witness all this happening :no:
It seems that now there's just us, his fans, to keep his legacy alive. Nobody else. How can it be like that?? I hope the Jacksons will not brainwash Michael's children too...I hope they will still cherish their memories of their father forever.
This is a really bad day :cry:

My thoughts.

[MJStorm]

Let's talk to Taj as we are happy with this interview.

I love the Jackson family.

I hope that next interview someone in the family tell us more about the toothpick nose.

Or maybe about the MJ, the addict.

Enough of hearing about philanthropic work.

We want to hear how MJ was beautiful as a child and later became ugly.

Jacksons forever.



(end of sarcasm)

[MJJ:G.O.A.T]

:no: when murray walks it will be their fault. but hey they will be able to go on oprah again:smilerolleyes:

he developed an addiction around 93 due to the surgeries on his scalp which is well documented. theres no evidence of anything b4. so now with the help of the jacksons and presley mj was a raging addict since the early 80's none stop till his death. i have to say im amazed at how healthy his organs were for someone who was an addict for 30 years.all this shows is how cluelss the family are about mj. they are like the general public.beleive any old shit that is put to them about their own family member.even more so when its started by one of their own


oprahs obsessed with showing mj as raving drug addicted pedo. and the family walk right into it every time.

:clapping::clapping::clapping:

You got it. I agree 100%. I'll bet that Katherine hasn't even read the autopsy report - look at how emotional she gets talking about June 25th.

Mike Jr.'s face is so serious when he said he wants to produce movies and direct.

[ilmjj]

katherine lied about her divorce filling completely ,she is saying kids are doing things that they never did,they are happy ,she also disapprove the way he was raising his kids .way to go smh

She said she disapproved of the way he was raising his kids?!!!!
Is she implying their life is better without Michael? Am I in the Twilight Zone?

[Sophielo]

OMG Katherine is straight up lying! She's claiming she never filed for divorce. :smilerolleyes: She filed for sure but never went through with it.

Now that is BS from Katherine. There's legal documentation proving she filed for divorce, she just pulled it.

[elusive moonwalker]

OMG Katherine is straight up lying! She's claiming she never filed for divorce. :smilerolleyes: She filed for sure but never went through with it.
didnt she file twice? then again this is a familythat has anniversary dinner for joe and katherine in may when they werent even married in that month and have been seperated for god knows how many years. its all about the image no matter how much of it is B.S. the family is more important than the individual hence sell mj out cause let him be called a druggie rather than admit he stayed away from us and wanted nothing to do with us. cause in mjs own words they only call when they want money

[ginvid]

She said that she didn't approve of the masks. She said she thinks it is better for them to be without them. I think Oprah was trying to make something out of the way MJ raised his children. She took small jabs like saying, "the kids lived in their own litlle Micheal Jackson world". But Katherine was not drawn that far in. She only talked about the masks.

She also didn't say she never filed for divorce. She was saying, recently. Oprah said she was surprised Joe was there because she thought Katherine filed for divorce. Katherine was talking about this time.

[xPrincessx]

Paris reminds me soooooo much of nicole richie. She's just straight up about everything

[MJJ:G.O.A.T]

Let's talk to Taj as we are happy with this interview.

I love the Jackson family.

I hope that next interview someone in the family tell us more about the toothpick nose.

Or maybe about the MJ, the addict.

Enough of hearing about philanthropic work.

We want to hear how MJ was beautiful as a child and later became ugly.

Jacksons forever.

(end of sarcasm)

:hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical:

That's right. While you are being sarcastic, you know there are some people who feel like this. :smilerolleyes: Jacksons first and to hell with what Michael feels is what they think.

[loveforever]

I had to say I am so proud of Michael's children, and Michael is the best father. I am done with this so called family.

[twinklEE]

I just pray for those children to be able to hold onto the beautiful memories they have of their father, I know it would kill him all over again if they were rehashing the same what others do now 5/10/15 years down the line. The only people he can rely on are his children. Hope they'll be strong enough to uphold their father's legacy and memory in the proper light.

[MJStorm]

Taj:

"I know my grandma is on the same page. Let the world know the real Mj, as only we knew him. The incredible person with a true heart of gold". 3:26 PM Oct 13th via TweetDeck

And the award for joke of the decade goes to...TAJ.

[ameliajayne]

well in all my 27 years of being a fan i never thought i would see the day when i felt angry over stuff katherine of all people said

geeeeeeeez when you lose a loved one you cling to and cherish all the happy memories etc not talk about their damn nose and skin

[elusive moonwalker]

well said. we can only hope. hope is all we have left now

[tennet07]

wher can i watch it? anyone help?

[elusive moonwalker]

Taj:

"I know my grandma is on the same page. Let the world know the real Mj, as only we knew him. The incredible person with a true heart of gold". 3:26 PM Oct 13th via TweetDeck

And the award for joke of the decade goes to...TAJ.

someone tweet him and see what the excuse is this time.

[Tsukiji]

well in all my 27 years of being a fan i never thought i would see the day when i felt angry over stuff katherine of all people said

geeeeeeeez when you lose a loved one you cling to and cherish all the happy memories etc not talk about their damn nose and skin

I feel the same as you =\

[earthlyme]

I teared up at the end… :cry: Thank you for who ever did the LIVE STREAM!!!! this is MY LAST TIME Watching Oprah on Stream or YT!


L.o.v.e.
Romi

[prismsagainst5live]

she was extremely rude about jermajesty's name, yeah its a bit strange but that was really condescending.

Prince and Paris are amazing. So strong.

[Vaneela_w]

Guys, any youtube link????? I can't believe I missed this!

[Sophielo]

The one hope I have for Michael's legacy still going is those beautiful kids. I didn't approve of them being interviewed. The boys are quiter but its as clear as day that Paris won't take any crap being said about her dad. That girl is so strong.

[ameliajayne]

i knew oprah would make my blood boil but didn't think katherine would as well

[blankyluvdoodoo]

by looking at prince ,i felt that he was not at all comfortable.and u can see vitiligo on his arms .

[twinklEE]

The one hope I have for Michael's legacy still going is those beautiful kids. I didn't approve of them being interviewed. The boys are quiter but its as clear as day that Paris won't take any crap being said about her dad. That girl is so strong.
Very true, she isn't gonna take nonsense from anyone when it comes to her father.

[PurpleParrot]

This is a very very sad day.

I'm speechless.

And guess what, forget what I said about the believers waking up.. I watched the 1st part twice, and I can garanty they'll jump on the fact that Katherine is scratching her nose while naming Conrad Murray... wanna bet? (even if minutes earlier she said crying Michael was dead)

[angelofinnocence]

the words 'public relations disaster' come to mind.
Those beautiful children are the only good thing left.

[144,000]

i just woke up. and apparently, i woke up in time. because the only interview i saw was Paris. and judging from her absolute stability, and calmness and everything she said, what she said is in stark contrast to everything everybody else said about Michael, save Prince, who didn't say much at all. but he, and Paris' give me the impression that there was nothing wrong with Michael. that he wasn't addicted to plastic sugery, that he wasn't a drug addict, and that he was a great dad. period. i have nothing else to say about anybody else. period. i will say that Paris spent every waking moment with Michael, and she was the only one who did. along with Prince, and Blanket. they give me a great impression of Michael. and i don't care what anyone says..in my spirit, there was nothing wrong with Michael, and he was brilliant. and i am not delusional. and i just read the rules of the forum, again, before posting this.

[Ashtanga]

God, all wrong. :( Katie... WHY?? :no: I'm very disappointed. Today was a devastating day for me. :cry:





Its airing live now. Katherine just said Michael would tell her "I'm so ugly." Then she brings up that he just decided to get his nose done. Katherine says she doesn't know how he got his vitiligo 'fixed' and that he didn't want to look like a spotted cow. She is now saying he was addicted to plastic surgery and made the toothpick comment...LAWD. :(
And Michael was a man so beautiful. :heart:




by looking at prince ,i felt that he was not at all comfortable.

I noticed that too. :(

:cry:

[Tamou]

Wow, his children get even more beautiful everytime I see them.
Blanket; just like Michael. :wub:
Paris is gorgeous. :)
And Prince... very good looking, haha :D

[ilmjj]

I can't believe the anger and hurt I have all at the same time. My gosh are we headed back to the days when we have to defend ourselves for loving Michael?

[angelofinnocence]

I may sound like I am flip-flopping but maybe I can't expect MJ's own Mother who he worshipped and adored called his nose 'a toothpick'. Yet I agree with other things she said. Someone please come along and explain this mess to me cos I'm confused.

[PCR]

So all those boys and girls live there, including even that big woman Genevive?
Sorry, but ... who's paying for all those bills all these years??

yeah, I know. Don't tell me :mello:

the nerve of that family.
really.

I must say this clear and LOUD: THANKS SO MUCH, GOD, FOR THE WONDERFUL FAMILY YOU BLESSED ME WITH. MY MOTHER, MY FATHER, MY SISTERS, MY NICE AND MY NEPHEW, ALL MY BLOOD, ALL MY LOVES. I LOVE THEM AND I MISS THEM DEARLY.
They respect me and they have NEVER tried to get any profit of me or my work (of course I am not rich and not famous, but whatever). I see that respect and love is not a minor thing to have.

I love you, Michael.

[Moulin Rouge]

I think every fans should eatch this for themselves, it was a good interview. there were a few comments i could do without but you could see the pain in katherines eyes and when she spoke you know she loves her son and misses him dearly. The kids are doing very well with their cousins and adjusting to their new enviornment, they looks like they don't care for Oprah and Paris is a strong girl with beautiful eyes like her grandfather Joe mixed with Debbie's.

[PurpleParrot]

I'll be waiting for the second part of it on youtube, by C1473Eop (sorry forgot your username ;)
But thank again!

[Alma]

What would/will/have those children felt watching this show and hearing their father was "addicted" to drugs and plastic surgery, some graphic details included?

I have to pull myself together..

[Amber Dawn]

I don't know why it bothers some people that Katherine "lied" about filing for divorce, its nobodies business! I'm glad they cut the Joe/Katherine interview short.



The Jackson kids interview was interesting, it was neat to hear the kids talk about the masks a bit.. I loved how Blanket wiped his mouth and then shook oprah's hand - kids are funny!

[PurpleParrot]

I'll be waiting for the second part of it on youtube, by C1473Eop (sorry forgot your username ;)
But thank again!

[Alma]

What would/will/have those children felt watching this show and hearing their father was "addicted" to drugs and plastic surgery, some graphic details included?

I have to pull myself together..

[Snow White luvs Peter Pan]

I can't believe I say this but i'm dissapointed of Mrs. Jackson!

Poor Michael, he doesn't deserve this! :boohoo:

[Tsukiji]

i just woke up. and apparently, i woke up in time. because the only interview i saw was Paris. and judging from her absolute stability, and calmness and everything she said, what she said is in stark contrast to everything everybody else said about Michael, save Prince, who didn't say much at all. but he, and Paris' give me the impression that there was nothing wrong with Michael. that he wasn't addicted to plastic sugery, that he wasn't a drug addict, and that he was a great dad. period. i have nothing else to say about anybody else. period. i will say that Paris spent every waking moment with Michael, and she was the only one who did. along with Prince, and Blanket. they give me a great impression of Michael. and i don't care what anyone says..in my spirit, there was nothing wrong with Michael, and he was brilliant. and i am not delusional. and i just read the rules of the forum, again, before posting this.

Everything you said is the truth..why would people say you are delusional 144,000?

[JMie]

I watched the stream and I have to say the interview for the most part was HORRIBLE. And it wasn't even like Oprah was forcing Katherine to say those things. She just volunteered all the answers. I could not believe my ears when she was speaking about the drug addiction and the addiction to the surgery. She also critisized the way Michael brought up his children (the masks and she mentioned that now they have friends as if before they didn't). Well, at least she didn't say "I wasn't in the room" when Oprah asked her about the trial. Katherine denied it, thankgod for that.

To me it seemed Katherine didn't even realize how damaging the things that she said are to Michael's image.

But she took the time to mention that all of her children turned out great dads (yeah, that's why Jermaine's and Randy's kids are living in that house, I guess) and she also spoke about the beatings like it was nothing, the most common thing in the world.

The only good part of the interview was the children. To me it seemed that Prince was kind of uncomfortable, but Paris was very confident and I think she's the leader of the three of them. When Oprah asked her what she missed the most about Michael and Paris said "everything", my heart just broke over the way she said it and the look in her eyes... So much sadness...

But Katherine's interview is a complete disaster. I don't even know what we can do to be able to clear Michael's name after what Janet, Lisa and now Katherine said. To the world, Michael is now a complete and hopeless addict, drugs, surgery, you name it, it seems he had it all according to this family.

I can't believe it. I simply can't believe this is happening.

The whole interview consists of assumptions, assumptions and more assumptions. Like, "he did the surgery and I heard people can get addicted to surgery" or "he said my own mother doesn't believe me and I heart that drug addicts are in denial and I didn't believe him". OH MY GOD. Why did she say all this? Why why why

[Moonwalker.Fan]

..., waiting for the other two parts....!!!!!!!!!!

[MJJ:G.O.A.T]

She also didn't say she never filed for divorce. She was saying, recently. Oprah said she was surprised Joe was there because she thought Katherine filed for divorce. Katherine was talking about this time.

Umm...that's how I remember it. Oprah asked and Katherine said never.


didnt she file twice? then again this is a familythat has anniversary dinner for joe and katherine in may when they werent even married in that month and have been seperated for god knows how many years. its all about the image no matter how much of it is B.S. the family is more important than the individual hence sell mj out cause let him be called a druggie rather than admit he stayed away from us and wanted nothing to do with us. cause in mjs own words they only call when they want money

Yup she did file twice -she just never went through with it. Katherine is old school - get married & stay married forever. It's funny we've been hearing Joe is living in Las Vegas - so he flew to Havenhurst to be present for this interview for appearances sake. Gotta make the marriage look good (don't mention all the affairs, illegitimate kids or that your husband is living in a different state from you) and the family too. Family first. :ermm: They claim to be concerned about how people see them. I wish they were concerned about how people will see Michael now after this interview - a drug addict for 25 years and a plastic surgery addict. No mention of lupus which caused damage to Michael's facial tissue and nasal cartilage. No mention of his charitable work - nothing on Michael the Humanitarian. Sad. :no:

[elusive moonwalker]

it was neat to hear the kids talk about the masks a bitwhat did they say



ut she took the time to mention that all of her children turned out great dads (y
LOL he fmaily live in their own little fantasy world where joe and kath have been happily married all these years all the bros are great dads and mj was the raving druggie as we need an excuse as to why he wanted nothng to do with us

[Amber Dawn]

what did they say
I don't remember word for word.. Paris said she appreciated it even though it was uncomfortable sometimes.. But Prince understood why and he said it allowed them to go places without him without wearing masks

[Alma]

I don't remember word for word.. Paris said she appreciated it even though it was uncomfortable sometimes.. But Prince understood why and he said it allowed them to go places without him without wearing masks

So sweet...:(

The children had a telepathic relationship with his father. With only one look, he expressed so much and I believe there was a lot of mutual understanding between them, not just spoken words.

...

[elusive moonwalker]

I don't remember word for word.. Paris said she appreciated it even though it was uncomfortable sometimes.. But Prince understood why and he said it allowed them to go places without him without wearing masks

thanks.

[jadore]

Can someone please send me a link to the first part on youtube Please cant find anything ... Thank You

[Moonwalker.Fan]

any better resolution....?

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[ginvid]

Umm...that's how I remember it. Oprah asked and Katherine said never.

But she was talking in reference to recently. Oprah thopught she currently filed for divorce. That is why she was surporised to see Joe. Katherine was saying she had not. That is the way I read it.

[Moulin Rouge]

I don't know why it bothers some people that Katherine "lied" about filing for divorce, its nobodies business! I'm glad they cut the Joe/Katherine interview short.



How do you know she lied? both parties involved denied the divorce and we haven't seen any legal proof, shouldn't that be enough to tell you it was a tabloid rumor.

[MsCassieMollie]

OMG Katherine is straight up lying! She's claiming she never filed for divorce. :smilerolleyes: She filed for sure but never went through with it.

Aren't Jehovah Witnesses aren't suppose to divorce?

[144,000]

I don't know why it bothers some people that Katherine "lied" about filing for divorce, its nobodies business! I'm glad they cut the Joe/Katherine interview short.



The Jackson kids interview was interesting, it was neat to hear the kids talk about the masks a bit.. I loved how Blanket wiped his mouth and then shook oprah's hand - kids are funny!

hahaaaaa wonderful! i didn't catch that. how wonderfully full circle appropriate. one of Michael's fav movies was the sound of music...and in that movie there was a classic scene, where one of the friends of the von trapp family was forced to shake hands with a soldier of adolf hitler, and, before he shook the soldier's hand, he wiped his nose.:) and Blanket is just a young child. so i'd say the moment was Divinely inspired.

[MJStorm]

I'm not surprised.

I have never given credit for mothers who leave their husbands beat their children.

What makes me angry are the messages on Twitter for the family (Jackie).

Things like: "The strength of ur family is astounding .. I love you all so very much"; "Much love to you and your Family. Your Mother is an inspiration to all of us"; and "I wish she was my family".

Only a twitter about the shame of exposing children.

I'll wait for the day when fans are able to defend the legacy of MJ,

[blankyluvdoodoo]

I watched the stream and I have to say the interview for the most part was HORRIBLE. And it wasn't even like Oprah was forcing Katherine to say those things. She just volunteered all the answers. I could not believe my ears when she was speaking about the drug addiction and the addiction to the surgery. She also critisized the way Michael brought up his children (the masks and she mentioned that now they have friends as if before they didn't). Well, at least she didn't say "I wasn't in the room" when Oprah asked her about the trial. Katherine denied it, thankgod for that.

To me it seemed Katherine didn't even realize how damaging the things that she said are to Michael's image.

But she took the time to mention that all of her children turned out great dads (yeah, that's why Jermaine's and Randy's kids are living in that house, I guess) and she also spoke about the beatings like it was nothing, the most common thing in the world.

The only good part of the interview was the children. To me it seemed that Prince was kind of uncomfortable, but Paris was very confident and I think she's the leader of the three of them. When Oprah asked her what she missed the most about Michael and Paris said "everything", my heart just broke over the way she said it and the look in her eyes... So much sadness...

But Katherine's interview is a complete disaster. I don't even know what we can do to be able to clear Michael's name after what Janet, Lisa and now Katherine said. To the world, Michael is now a complete and hopeless addict, drugs, operations, you name it, it seems he had it all according to this family.

I can't believe it. I simply can't believe this is happening.

The whole interview consists of assumptions, assumptions and more assumptions. Like, "he did the surgery and I heard people can get addicted to surgery" or "he said my own mother doesn't believe me and I heart that drug addicts are in denial and I didn't believe him". OH MY GOD. Why did she say all this? Why why why

you said it all ..and i am sure still jackson family fans are going to defend them .i am done with that family and those who can't see that i am done with them as well.

[Amber Dawn]

So sweet...:(

The children had a telepathic relationship with his father. With only one look, he expressed so much and I believe there was a lot of mutual understanding between them, not just spoken words.

...

Yeah, I could see a lot of Michael in all 3 of them just from that small interview blanket was really quiet and shy. Prince seemed really unconfortable during lots of it just his body language was saying a lot.. I'm sure if he watches this back he's gonna think - what was I doing with my hands!! lol. And paris like michael everytime sort of a sensitive issue came up she was QUICK to respond..

[ginvid]

Aren't Jehovah Witnesses aren't suppose to divorce?

You can divorce as a JW. But the only way you can divorce with the chance of being remarried is if your husband or wife commits adultery. Which we know Joe has.

[Michael Jackson Moonwalk]

..., waiting for the other two parts....!!!!!!!!!!

Yep, same here :(

[Reeta]

Part 1

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[MJStorm]

what did they say



LOL he fmaily live in their own little fantasy world where joe and kath have been happily married all these years all the bros are great dads and mj was the raving druggie as we need an excuse as to why he wanted nothng to do with us

Exactly.

[twinklEE]

i just woke up. and apparently, i woke up in time. because the only interview i saw was Paris. and judging from her absolute stability, and calmness and everything she said, what she said is in stark contrast to everything everybody else said about Michael, save Prince, who didn't say much at all. but he, and Paris' give me the impression that there was nothing wrong with Michael. that he wasn't addicted to plastic sugery, that he wasn't a drug addict, and that he was a great dad. period. i have nothing else to say about anybody else. period. i will say that Paris spent every waking moment with Michael, and she was the only one who did. along with Prince, and Blanket. they give me a great impression of Michael. and i don't care what anyone says..in my spirit, there was nothing wrong with Michael, and he was brilliant. and i am not delusional. and i just read the rules of the forum, again, before posting thisYour reading my mind, everything you said is true, I also agree with you about the Paris part, for me, I don't care what anybody else has to say, what matters is what his children say. They are his true legacy and nothing and no one can take this fact away, I know that I'm repeating myself but judging by this Michael's girl is a no bs girl already when it comes to the father she loves and respects so much. Her few words were a billion times stronger and more meaningful than whatever other people have to say about him. She did it last year, and she did it again with this interview, she is what the media calls ''humanizing'' Michael.

[Alma]

I'm watching the first part, and so far, I've noticed the interview being truncated. Katherine Jackson said something, then added "cause", but the explanation or whatever followed was taken out!

[PurpleParrot]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQXterI31WY&feature=player_embedded

1st part

[elusive moonwalker]

How do you know she lied? both parties involved denied the divorce and we haven't seen any legal proof, shouldn't that be enough to tell you it was a tabloid rumor.
i tihnk pl were talking about her filing for divorce years back b4 it was cleared up that they were talking about the recent rumours