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Vici
09-10-2010, 10:56 PM
16 minutes ago by TMZ Staff

It appears Katherine Jackson is going to do what Oksana Grigorieva couldn't ... appear on "The Oprah Winfrey Show."

http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/900/oppr.jpg

Production trucks have arrived at the Jackson family compound in Encino along with two black SUVs. Members of the production crew told TMZ they are there for "an Oprah shoot."

A security guard told TMZ Oprah will not be showing up ... so this could be filming for an introductory segment of the show.

No word on what the interview might be about ... but we're guessing the words Michael and Jackson will be used often.

UPDATE 5:10 PM PT -- No one has left yet, but there has been a visitor ... the Domino's Pizza delivery guy!

UPDATE 6:23 PM PT -- The production trucks are getting a parking ticket. Put it on Oprah's tab.

UPDATE 6:39 PM PT -- The two SUVs have taken off and the production crew has begun to load equipment. Looks like it's a wrap.

http://www.tmz.com/2010/10/09/katherine-jackson-oprah-winfrey-interview-michael-jackson/#comments-anchor

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Oprah visits Michael Jackson's mom for interview

Los Angeles, California (CNN) -- Oprah Winfrey's production team moved into Katherine Jackson's Encino, California, home Saturday to tape an interview with Michael Jackson's mother, a source inside the home said.

Winfrey was in the Jackson home to conduct the interview Saturday afternoon, according the source, who asked not to be identified because he was not authorized to speak to the media.

Katherine Jackson has not given any interviews since her son's death last year except for a paid interview for a documentary.

Winfrey's production company did not immediately respond to a CNN request for comment.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/SHOWBIZ/celebrity.news.gossip/10/09/oprah.jackson.interview/

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Katherine & Joe Jackson Do 'Oprah'
32 minutes ago by TMZ Staff

As we first reported, production trucks for Oprah's show were parked outside the Jackson compound in Encino for the better part of Saturday. In the photos, Oprah can be seen meeting with several family members and getting the tour of the house.

We're told the interview focused heavily on Michael Jackson (duh) -- talking about his life, his kids and the book Katherine put together about his life.

No word yet on when the episode will air.

Katherine and Joe Jackson sat down with Oprah Winfrey this weekend to tape a segment for O's show ... and TMZ has the first photos http://photos.tmz.com/galleries/oprah_visits_jackson_family_home#tab=most_recent

http://www.tmz.com/2010/10/11/kather...omments-anchor

StaceyMJ
09-10-2010, 11:03 PM
Oh god...could it get any worse.

prettygirlmj
09-10-2010, 11:10 PM
^ yes it can lol

How about Jermaine singing Man in the Mirror on Oprah?

I wonder if this thread will turn into like what happned with the Lisa Marie one appearing on Oprah...(which by the way Oprah has re-sheduled - TV guide was wrong...)

StaceyMJ
09-10-2010, 11:15 PM
^ yes it can lol

How about Jermaine singing Man in the Mirror on Oprah?

I wonder if this thread will turn into like what happned with the Lisa Marie one appearing on Oprah...(which by the way Oprah has re-sheduled - TV guide was wrong...)

Meh, I don't know. I feel like Katherine is maybe being used and guided unfairly. That's my worry, I hope Oprah doesn't lead her into answering things about the case and such.

ivy
09-10-2010, 11:18 PM
Ugh


Oh god...could it get any worse.

hopefully Mj's kids don't make an appearance

prettygirlmj
09-10-2010, 11:18 PM
Katherine shouldn't even BE on Oprah concidering all the years Oprah put down her son. That's just me.

Why aren't these people talking to Geraldo? He was pretty good and fair to Michael.

StaceyMJ
09-10-2010, 11:21 PM
It's ridiculous. Michael indeed has the strangest family in those ways, if that was my son/brother/mum or any other relative I'd be coming down on them hard. Not discussing him with them. It's a huge betrayal Michael does not deserve. I don't know what part of that they don't seem to get. :(

MJStorm
09-10-2010, 11:23 PM
God help us.

Vici
09-10-2010, 11:24 PM
It's Oprahs last season and she wanna have big names on her show so ppl will tune in and talk about it.

I dont think the season is half way through yet and there have been and still are talks about her guest/upcoming guests for this season like Mark Zuckenberg, J.K Rowling, Lisa Marie Presley, Oksana Grigorieva, Katherine Jackson (?), the cast of TLC new reality show "Sister Wives" etc.

Moonwalker.Fan
09-10-2010, 11:25 PM
Meh, I don't know. I feel like Katherine is maybe being used and guided unfairly. That's my worry, I hope Oprah doesn't lead her into answering things about the case and such.


Katherine shouldn't even BE on Oprah concidering all the years Oprah put down her son. That's just me.

Why aren't these people talking to Geraldo? He was pretty good and fair to Michael.

I think it could be a great chance to confront Oprah with all the shits she said about Michael.

Katherine Jackson just has to know what to say and what to ask her... and of course, she has to see the shows where Oprah was talking the shits about MJ.

dupsy
09-10-2010, 11:29 PM
Michael's family just love dining with his haters.

Memefan
09-10-2010, 11:30 PM
O_o


Originally Posted by StaceyMJ
Oh god...could it get any worse.

Apparently, yes. I don't understand this family...really. From the grandkids, to the kids to the parents. This cannot be right.

Naturelle
09-10-2010, 11:37 PM
16 minutes ago by TMZ Staff

It appears Katherine Jackson is going to do what Oksana Grigorieva couldn't ... appear on "The Oprah Winfrey Show."

http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/900/oppr.jpg

Production trucks have arrived at the Jackson family compound in Encino along with two black SUVs. Members of the production crew told TMZ they are there for "an Oprah shoot."

A security guard told TMZ Oprah will not be showing up ... so this could be filming for an introductory segment of the show.

No word on what the interview might be about ... but we're guessing the words Michael and Jackson will be used often.

http://www.tmz.com/2010/10/09/katherine-jackson-oprah-winfrey-interview-michael-jackson/#comments-anchor


OH NOOOOOOOOOO Mrs. Kathrine!!!!!!! Please re-think this...please :no::shock::nooo::wtf:

MJStorm
09-10-2010, 11:41 PM
It's ridiculous. Michael indeed has the strangest family in those ways, if that was my son/brother/mum or any other relative I'd be coming down on them hard. Not discussing him with them. It's a huge betrayal Michael does not deserve. I don't know what part of that they don't seem to get. :(

I'm sick of that family.

ginvid
09-10-2010, 11:42 PM
I am actually speechless...

marebear
09-10-2010, 11:45 PM
I don't understand this. If Michael was related to me Oprah would be the last person i would talk to. Oprah does not like Michael.

AppleHeadisPeterPan
09-10-2010, 11:53 PM
just leave Michael alone already :(

Justthefacts
09-10-2010, 11:56 PM
Wait and see

earthlyme
09-10-2010, 11:58 PM
Lets wait and see whats going on…


L.o.v.e.
Romi

LisaU123
10-10-2010, 12:09 AM
everyone always goes on the attack before they know whats goin on.

pilinlim
10-10-2010, 12:13 AM
Remember when "inside family sources" told TMZ, on June 26th, that Michael was used to getting his "daily dose of Demerol" but that, "this time, the doctor gave him too much."?
Remember when Randy kept selling rumors to the press about how Michael was a junkie?

Remember when Latoya told the police her brother was a heroin addict?
Remember when Joe, Oxman and Rowe did EVERYTHING to portray Michael as an addict so they could sue AEG and make millions?

The Jacksons are destroying Michael's legacy. Let's stop calling the Diane Dimonds and Nancy Graces out; the family has been Michael's memory biggest destroyer so let's stop blaming the media for his bad reputation.

How many times will Randy tell Katherine what to say during Oprah's interview?

I can only imagine this conversation.

"Randy: Mother, when you go to Oprah, say Michael was an addict.

Katherine: OK.

Randy: And repeat everything Oxman and Rowe have been saying.

Katherine: OK.

Randy: Don't forget to portray Michael as a junkie who needed help to even tie his shoe laces, 'kay?

Katherine: OK."



These guys really are the most dysfunctional family in the world.

With how many women has Joe slept last night? Who wants to guess?

LisaU123
10-10-2010, 12:16 AM
We don't even know it is Katherine who is doing it. The crew didnt tell tmz that. they said they were there for an oprah shoot but not who was doing it.

pilinlim
10-10-2010, 12:26 AM
We don't even know it is Katherine who is doing it. The crew didnt tell tmz that. they said they were there for an oprah shoot but not who was doing it.

So what?

It's not as if we didn't know what to expect from this family. They will use the "Oprah show" as a vehicle to portray Michael as a "weak, frail, controlled, retarded, mean junkie". Why? Because it suits their agenda. And their pockets. But, hey, let's ignore this and pretend it's just the media that is very bad to Michael. The meanies!

Tell me? Who has been destroying Michael's legacy on a DAILY BASIS since the 25th of June?

Oh...don't you want to answer my question? My guess is Joe slept with 3 different women last night. Oh wait; he was just "old school". It was Michael who (such sensitive a human) exxagerated things. Bah...poor Joe! Such a loving, caring father who is seeking justice for his beloved pock...son!

LisaU123
10-10-2010, 01:00 AM
Ok no use in going around and around. Simply don't watch the show.

Justthefacts
10-10-2010, 01:10 AM
Jackie is doing something with Oprah I tend to think that is why the cameras are their. It would not be wise for Mrs Jackson to speak about anything Michael with legal actions pending. Murray's trial and her suit against AEG. Just wait

marebear
10-10-2010, 01:16 AM
I don't understand why Oprah? There are other people they could talk to.

StacyJ
10-10-2010, 01:20 AM
Michael's family just love dining with his haters.

and it makes me sick

blueocean
10-10-2010, 01:22 AM
Remember when "inside family sources" told TMZ, on June 26th, that Michael was used to getting his "daily dose of Demerol" but that, "this time, the doctor gave him too much."?
Remember when Randy kept selling rumors to the press about how Michael was a junkie?

Remember when Latoya told the police her brother was a heroin addict?
Remember when Joe, Oxman and Rowe did EVERYTHING to portray Michael as an addict so they could sue AEG and make millions?

The Jacksons are destroying Michael's legacy. Let's stop calling the Diane Dimonds and Nancy Graces out; the family has been Michael's memory biggest destroyer so let's stop blaming the media for his bad reputation.

How many times will Randy tell Katherine what to say during Oprah's interview?

I can only imagine this conversation.

"Randy: Mother, when you go to Oprah, say Michael was an addict.

Katherine: OK.

Randy: And repeat everything Oxman and Rowe have been saying.

Katherine: OK.

Randy: Don't forget to portray Michael as a junkie who needed help to even tie his shoe laces, 'kay?

Katherine: OK."



These guys really are the most dysfunctional family in the world.

With how many women has Joe slept last night? Who wants to guess?

Everything you are saying is a figment of your imagination, Just wait and see what its all about then comment.

athina_livadi
10-10-2010, 01:22 AM
just leave Michael alone already :(

EXACTLY! :no::no::no::no:

blankyluvdoodoo
10-10-2010, 01:35 AM
really tired of this stupidity ...........oprah can go to hell ,just shut ur big mouth and leave Michael alone.:angry:

goldiee
10-10-2010, 01:36 AM
It's ridiculous. Michael indeed has the strangest family in those ways, if that was my son/brother/mum or any other relative I'd be coming down on them hard. Not discussing him with them. It's a huge betrayal Michael does not deserve. I don't know what part of that they don't seem to get. :(

They don't require respect from people so people don't give it. I've never seen a family allow their family member to be disrespected like they do. When will they learn that people follow your lead. If' they're so-so about their family members, others will be as well.

mj_obsession
10-10-2010, 01:41 AM
Wait, shouldn't you lot head over to www.LetsBashMichaelsFamilyBecauseWeDontKnowBetter. com? :clapping:

MJStorm
10-10-2010, 01:57 AM
Wait, shouldn't you lot head over to www.LetsBashMichaelsFamilyBecauseWeDontKnowBetter. com? :clapping:

No...

love is magical
10-10-2010, 01:57 AM
Why stories from TMZ is taken as gospal?

Why it's right to criticize and jump into conclusion before understanding the truth?

Is this thread in the right section? Should it be moved to the tabloid section.

Can we all listen to Michael and stop reading tabloids?

mj_obsession
10-10-2010, 02:03 AM
Why stories from TMZ is taken as gospal?

Why it's right to criticize and jump into conclusion before understanding the truth?

Is this thread in the right section? Should it be moved to the tabloid section.

Can we all listen to Michael and stop reading tabloids?

I'm starting to think we're wasting our time. Some people here just love TMZ and love bashing the Jackson family.

Butterfly26
10-10-2010, 02:08 AM
I hope she "may" not be.

What does Oprah want? Its like she has to have some show on Michael. Why? and for what? I hope this is another idiot TMZ moment and not the truth. TMZ never get's my click. I read form here and that is about it. Also, please we can disagree on this but dont disrespect his mother.

Autumn II
10-10-2010, 02:09 AM
Oh god...could it get any worse.

So sorry, but yes, it CAN get worse. A person with a major lawsuit pending should NOT be doing this. This tells us she had NO ONE advising her. . . . Buckle up?

marebear
10-10-2010, 02:17 AM
I think CNN is reporting it too. I googled her name and there a report from CNN International. For me, it's not about bashing the family. I think if they want to talk, Oprah shouldn't be the one to go to. Go to someone who actually likes Michael and doesn't think the worst of him. Oprah was awful to Michael for years.

MJStorm
10-10-2010, 02:24 AM
I'm starting to think we're wasting our time. Some people here just love TMZ and love bashing the Jackson family.

You're right. It's our fault.

Poor Jackson Family.

What injustice!

What we have done with that family?

I feel bad now.

I think I'll say on TV that my brother is addicted to drugs.

I will feel better .

------ end of the joke.

love is magical
10-10-2010, 02:24 AM
I'm starting to think we're wasting our time. Some people here just love TMZ and love bashing the Jackson family.

Seriously, why are Michael Jackson fans believing in stories fabricated by tabloids? Why are Michael Jackson fans bashing Katherine Jackson, the woman Michael loved most in his life? Does any one here know for sure that Katherine Jackson will be on Oprah?

Again and again and again, some people here just take a slight piece of info leaked, believe in it and jump to conclusion. Michael's life was destroyed by media like TMZ and the people who judge and made assumptions before getting the facts.

We all claim we love Michael. We all claim we want justice for him. Isn't it ironic that fans here are helping TMZ to spread fabricated stories, twisted stories, semi-true stories and rumors by posting TMZ stuff here?

Michael asked us to have tabloid burnings, not tabloid reading.

If you like to read tabloids, fine, but can you stop posting tabloid stories on Michael Jackson forum?

It's the tabloids that made Michael's life hellish. The Jackson family, at the end of the day, is still his family. Michael's last name is still Jackson. The anger and hatred directed to the Jackson family is uncalled for.

ExoticPrincess
10-10-2010, 02:29 AM
I saw the title of this thread and I was like, :bugeyed.....

I don't care who is doing this latest interview with Oprah, the point is the woman thinks their son, brother, father, uncle is a child predator, speaks about him in a demeaning manner and so none of the Jackson family should have ANYTHING to do with her and her damn show! Why does'nt she just interview Joe Jackson while she's at it and tell him how she thinks he was an abusive father, now that would be explosive!

Hopefully the fact they are shooting a segment for the show at the Encino house means that the children WILL NOT be apart of it!

Michael's feelings and wishes seems to be oh so irrelevant to some.


Again and again and again, some people here just take a slight piece of info leaked, believe in it and jump to conclusion. Michael's life was destroyed by media like TMZ and the people who judge and made assumptions before getting the facts

You seem to be forgetting though that its members of the family who are the ones that keep talking to media types like TMZ, Radar Online etc. about their beloved brother/son!

Look, the fact is trucks from Oprah's show were seen going into the compound, hence its a good bet to believe that something related to Michael Jackson is gonna go down, no guess and spell there.

bluetopez
10-10-2010, 02:30 AM
Okay so Katherine what's to go on Oprah...? Well, if she does I hope she does what she has done in most of her interviews since MJs 03 allegation and that's defend her son once again RIGHT IN OPRAH DAMN FACE! I like to see this Oprah try and say something negative to MJ's mama about that! HMMMF! Maybe now Oprah can get the truth in that thick head of hers once in for all! But, I think that's wishful thinking!


And Yea the family hasn't help MJ's legacy much since June 25th with some of their B.S! But, I be damn blaming them for destroying it and not blaming the media or people like Sneedon! They are more to blame cause they simply couldn't get off of MJ's D***!

mj_obsession
10-10-2010, 02:35 AM
You're right. It's our fault.

Poor Jackson Family.

What injustice!

What we have done with that family?

I feel bad now.

I think I'll say on TV that my brother is addicted to drugs.

I will feel better .

------ end of the joke.

I hate to break it to you, but, Michael's problems with addiction are well known, if a member of the family wishes to discuss it then that's their prerogative, NOT YOURS! Leave them alone, the last few years has been hard enough without them learning Michael's own fans have turned. Fool!

ExoticPrincess
10-10-2010, 02:37 AM
Oprah visits Michael Jackson's mom for interview<!--sizec--><!--/sizec-->


Los Angeles, California (CNN) -- Oprah Winfrey's production team moved into Katherine Jackson's Encino, California, home Saturday to tape an interview with Michael Jackson's mother, a source inside the home said.

Winfrey was in the Jackson home to conduct the interview Saturday afternoon, according the source, who asked not to be identified because he was not authorized to speak to the media.

Katherine Jackson has not given any interviews since her son's death last year except for a paid interview for a documentary.

Winfrey's production company did not immediately respond to a CNN request for comment.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/SHOWBIZ/celebrity....kson.interview/ (http://www.cnn.com/2010/SHOWBIZ/celebrity....kson.interview/)

Also saw another board that this story can be seen on the CNN news ticker.<!--IBF.ATTACHMENT_1391129-->

Justthefacts
10-10-2010, 02:37 AM
Lets just wait and see before we freak out

MJStorm
10-10-2010, 02:38 AM
Seriously, why are Michael Jackson fans believing in stories fabricated by tabloids? Why are Michael Jackson fans bashing Katherine Jackson, the woman Michael loved most in his life? Does any one here know for sure that Katherine Jackson will be on Oprah?

Again and again and again, some people here just take a slight piece of info leaked, believe in it and jump to conclusion. Michael's life was destroyed by media like TMZ and the people who judge and made assumptions before getting the facts.

We all claim we love Michael. We all claim we want justice for him. Isn't it ironic that fans here are helping TMZ to spread fabricated stories, twisted stories, semi-true stories and rumors by posting TMZ stuff here?

Michael asked us to have tabloid burnings, not tabloid reading.

If you like to read tabloids, fine, but can you stop posting tabloid stories on Michael Jackson forum?

It's the tabloids that made Michael's life hellish. The Jackson family, at the end of the day, is still his family. Michael's last name is still Jackson. The anger and hatred directed to the Jackson family is uncalled for.

I hate TMZ and generally do not believe them.

Do you know what's the problem?

Many fans believe the Jacksons have less credibility than a ridiculous gossip site.

It's sad, I know. But you should know that every week some member of that family hurts Michael's legacy.

I do not care about the press. They are liars and criminals (see what they did with Michael).

And I do not care about the Jacksons.

Not anymore.

MJLIVESON
10-10-2010, 02:39 AM
Oprah made fun of Michael after she got her interview with him in '93', now because this will be big tv ratings she's going after Katherine (watch out Jacksons, here comes Oprah )

MJStorm
10-10-2010, 02:40 AM
I hate to break it to you, but, Michael's problems with addiction are well known, if a member of the family wishes to discuss it then that's their prerogative, NOT YOURS! Leave them alone, the last few years has been hard enough without them learning Michael's own fans have turned. Fool!

God, give me patience. They do not know what they say.

Severus Snape
10-10-2010, 02:44 AM
I hope this isn't true. If true, how could she even speak to that woman, after the whole LMP fiasco?! I think it's pretty clear where Oprah stands in regards to Michael, and the recent turnaround we've seen on her part is about as sincere as Mark Sanford's public apology. :lol:

I would hope Miss Katherine would have more sense than to let that Oprah vulture anywhere near PPB, and her own life, for that matter. Nothing good ever comes out of Oprah.

0o0jackie0o0
10-10-2010, 02:45 AM
i c what everyone's saying but what if katherine is using this as a platform to clear everything up. i know oprah may not b the best person to use but i would never doubt that katherine's intentions are only for whotever she thinks is best for her son.
mayb we wouldn't make the same choices but i hav so much respect for katherine jackson n i highly doubt she's gonna say anything bad bout mj.
oprah is a platform infront of the whole world and maybe she wants everyone to hear the truth that needs to b told about her son.

yaazgurl
10-10-2010, 02:48 AM
I hate to break it to you, but, Michael's problems with addiction are well known, if a member of the family wishes to discuss it then that's their prerogative, NOT YOURS! Leave them alone, the last few years has been hard enough without them learning Michael's own fans have turned. Fool!

What problems with addiction? Are you referring to something MJ got treated for over 10 years ago. You can defend the family without putting Michael down with innuendo. The family hasn't defined this drug addiction, these interventions or given time frames so nothing is well documented other than what MJ admitted to over 10 years ago and that is not recent. I like the Jackson family as a whole but some things they do are questionable and this seems to be one of those questionable things.

love is magical
10-10-2010, 02:50 AM
I hate TMZ and generally do not believe them.

Do you know what's the problem?

Many fans believe the Jacksons have less credibility than a ridiculous gossip site.

It's sad, I know. But you should know that every week some member of that family hurts Michael's legacy.

I do not care about the press. They are liars and criminals (see what they did with Michael).

And I do not care about the Jacksons.

Not anymore.

I'm sorry if I sound harsh in my previous post. I don't care much about the Jacksons neither. But, I don't hate them. I just want to say that none of us here knows any one of the Jackson family member personally. We don't know their family dynamic. Yes, the stuff reported about them are ridiculous. Joe Jackson sueing the estate. Jermaine's love of the limelight. So, I understand the negative feelings we have have.

However, if i just look at the information provided in the TMZ article, it's skimpy as usual. Nothing is confirmed. And, some of us here started to bash Katherine Jackson because of a rumor. Even if Katherine Jackson is confirmed to be on Oprah, we should still wait and see before passing our judgements.

mj_obsession
10-10-2010, 02:50 AM
God, give me patience. They do not know what they say.

And how the hell do you know? What if, just, what if, a member of the family wants to see how we're all doing without Michael in our lives and comes across your hate towards them? If you want to talk that way it's your choice, but please, have some respect and do it in private or at least a non-public forum. What's wrong with you?

Severus Snape
10-10-2010, 02:50 AM
i c what everyone's saying but what if katherine is using this as a platform to clear everything up. i know oprah may not b the best person to use but i would never doubt that katherine's intentions are only for whotever she thinks is best for her son.
mayb we wouldn't make the same choices but i hav so much respect for katherine jackson n i highly doubt she's gonna say anything bad bout mj.
oprah is a platform infront of the whole world and maybe she wants everyone to hear the truth that needs to b told about her son.

It's not Miss Katherine I don't trust, it's Oprah. I can't shake the feeling that, no matter how good Miss Kat's intentions may be, the media (Oprah, in this case) will try to twist the truth as they always strive to do...

But, like others here have said, there's nothing for us to do but wait and see what happens. We're only powerless spectators at this point in time.

yaazgurl
10-10-2010, 02:51 AM
i c what everyone's saying but what if katherine is using this as a platform to clear everything up. i know oprah may not b the best person to use but i would never doubt that katherine's intentions are only for whotever she thinks is best for her son.
mayb we wouldn't make the same choices but i hav so much respect for katherine jackson n i highly doubt she's gonna say anything bad bout mj.
oprah is a platform infront of the whole world and maybe she wants everyone to hear the truth that needs to b told about her son.

This is one way to look at it but I can see Oprah trying to manipulate her and I don't know whether or not she would go for it or whether or not Oprah would heavily edit it to get her own point across. I guess it will be interesting for those who plan to watch it but I don't plan to watch Oprah no matter who she has on.

MJStorm
10-10-2010, 02:58 AM
And how the hell do you know? What if, just, what if, a member of the family wants to see how we're all doing without Michael in our lives and comes across your hate towards them? If you want to talk that way it's your choice, but please, have some respect and do it in private or at least a non-public forum. What's wrong with you?

Yaazgurl said it all.


I'm sorry if I sound harsh in my previous post. I don't care much about the Jacksons neither. But, I don't hate them. I just want to say that none of us here knows any one of the Jackson family member personally. We don't know their family dynamic. Yes, the stuff reported about them are ridiculous. Joe Jackson sueing the estate. Jermaine's love of the limelight. So, I understand the negative feelings we have have.

However, if i just look at the information provided in the TMZ article, it's skimpy as usual. Nothing is confirmed. And, some of us here started to bash Katherine Jackson because of a rumor. Even if Katherine Jackson is confirmed to be on Oprah, we should still wait and see before passing our judgements.

Ok, let's see what happens.

earthlyme
10-10-2010, 03:00 AM
Are we still on Michael Jackson site?


L.o.v.e.
Romi

8701girl
10-10-2010, 03:03 AM
I hope this isnt true........does mrs jackson even know how much oprah has dogged mj over the yrs??

Moulin Rouge
10-10-2010, 03:08 AM
Shouldn't this be in the 2300 jackson Street section?

We don't know if Oprah's crew was there for Katherine or another person, I heard Jackie was going to do an interview so maybe they are jsut at the house to capture some footage.

CherubimII
10-10-2010, 03:18 AM
I have a peaceful feeling about Oprah's visit.
Katherine is not Janet.
Katherine will tell the world that she and Micheal's children:
Prince, Paris, and Blanket miss their father, Michael Jackson
very much.
However, prepare yourself, Oprah will film Michael's children.
She may even interview them. Don't worry.
I think Michael's children can handle Oprah. http://angelwinks.net/images/angel3r.gif (http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii252/tink858/2hfm16f.gif)

mj_obsession
10-10-2010, 03:27 AM
I have a peaceful feeling about Oprah's visit.
Katherine is not Janet.
Katherine will tell the world that she and Micheal's children:
Prince, Paris, and Blanket miss their father, Michael Jackson
very much.
However, prepare yourself, Oprah will film Michael's children.
She may even interview them. Don't worry.
I think Michael's children can handle Oprah. http://angelwinks.net/images/angel3r.gif (http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii252/tink858/2hfm16f.gif)

I think so too.

Naturelle
10-10-2010, 03:35 AM
I dont like the sound of this one bit! This could be a disaster anyway you look at it... OW:no:

twinklEE
10-10-2010, 03:36 AM
The part that matters to them is money. Anything for money, it don't matter who they sell their deceased relative out next, as long as they get money.
I hope and pray to God for Michael's children not to turn out like the rest of the clan.

CherubimII
10-10-2010, 03:40 AM
Update:

Katherine Jackson May Be 'Oprah' Bound

10/9/2010 3:34 PM PDT by TMZ Staff <?xml:namespace prefix = fb /><FB:LIKE href="http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tmz.com%2F2010%2F10%2F09%2Fkather ine-jackson-oprah-winfrey-interview-michael-jackson%2F" layout="button_count" show_faces="false" itxtvisited="1"></FB:LIKE><SCRIPT src="http://connect.facebook.net/en_US/all.js" type=text/javascript async="true"></SCRIPT>


<HR class=first itxtvisited="1">It appears Katherine Jackson (http://www.tmz.com/person/katherine-jackson/) is going to do what Oksana Grigorieva (http://www.tmz.com/person/oksana-grigorieva/) couldn't ... appear on "The Oprah Winfrey Show (http://www.tmz.com/person/oprah-winfrey/)."

http://ll-media.tmz.com/2010/10/09/1009-oprah-katherine-jackson-truck-getty-tmz-2-credit.jpg


Production trucks have arrived at the Jackson family compound in Encino along with two black SUVs. Members of the production crew told TMZ they are there for "an <NOBR id=itxt_nobr_0_0 style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal; FONT-SIZE: 100%; COLOR: #d01e02; FONT-FAMILY: inherit">Oprahhttp://images.intellitxt.com/ast/adTypes/mag-glass_10x10.gif</NOBR> (http://www.tmz.com/2010/10/09/katherine-jackson-oprah-winfrey-interview-michael-jackson/#) shoot."

A security <NOBR id=itxt_nobr_1_0 style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal; FONT-SIZE: 100%; COLOR: #d01e02; FONT-FAMILY: inherit">guardhttp://images.intellitxt.com/ast/adTypes/mag-glass_10x10.gif</NOBR> (http://www.tmz.com/2010/10/09/katherine-jackson-oprah-winfrey-interview-michael-jackson/#) told TMZ Oprah will not be showing up ... so this could be filming for an introductory segment of the show.

No word on what the interview might be about ... but we're guessing the words Michael and Jackson will be used often.

UPDATE 5:10 PM PT -- No one has left yet, but there has been a visitor ... the Domino's Pizza delivery guy!

UPDATE 6:23 PM PT -- The production trucks are getting a parking ticket. Put it on Oprah's tab.

UPDATE 6:39 PM PT -- The two SUVs have taken off and the production crew has begun to load equipment. Looks like it's a wrap.

http://www.tmz.com/2010/10/09/katherine-jackson-oprah-winfrey-interview-michael-jackson/

ExoticPrincess
10-10-2010, 03:45 AM
I just think every Michael Jackson fan has every right to be wary whenever the name Oprah and Jackson fall in the same sentence. Fans can't help but go on the offensive when she's in the picture. She's shown her true colours time and time again!

The editing button can turn out to be vindictive!

Oh and for sure, if its something that Randy does'nt agree with, just watch out for him making his feelings known on Twitter!

CherubimII
10-10-2010, 03:51 AM
I'm thinking about this a bit differently than some of you.
I truly believe that Oprah may feel that with her experience
in money matters that she can be helpful and offer
advice to Katherine about how to manage money and legal affairs.
Also, my prayer is that Oprah will behave in a "motherly"
fashion toward Michael's children. :angel:

Naturelle
10-10-2010, 03:52 AM
:no::no::no::no::no:

Naturelle
10-10-2010, 03:57 AM
I'm thinking about this a bit differently than some of you.
I truly believe that Oprah may feel that with her experience
in money matters that she can be helpful and offer
advice to Katherine about how to manage money and legal affairs.
Also, my prayer is that Oprah will behave in a "motherly"
fashion toward Michael children. :angel:

I don't know CherubimII, Michael would NOT want that women anywhere near his children! That women is pure evil.
But I pray that you're right.

ExoticPrincess
10-10-2010, 03:57 AM
I'm thinking about this a bit differently than some of you.
I truly believe that Oprah may feel that with her experience
in money matters that she can be helpful and offer
advice to Katherine about how to manage money and legal affairs.
Also, my prayer is that Oprah will behave in a "motherly"
fashion toward Michael's children. :angel:

Cherubim, I'm sorry, but I think you're being a bit delusional, Oprah is just doing this to get the scoop, thats all!

And I hope to God she does not get anywhere near Michael's kids!

Moulin Rouge
10-10-2010, 03:58 AM
I'm thinking about this a bit differently than some of you.
I truly believe that Oprah may feel that with her experience
in money matters that she can be helpful and offer
advice to Katherine about how to manage money and legal affairs.
Also, my prayer is that Oprah will behave in a "motherly"
fashion toward Michael's children. :angel:
:blink: :mello: :lol:

CherubimII
10-10-2010, 04:02 AM
I don't know CherubimII, Michael would NOT want that women anywhere near his children! That women is pure evil.
But I pray that you're right.
I know you are probably right; but do pray with me that there
will be a good outcome from this interview. :angel:

#1MJstan
10-10-2010, 04:10 AM
I think it could be a great chance to confront Oprah with all the shits she said about Michael.

Katherine Jackson just has to know what to say and what to ask her... and of course, she has to see the shows where Oprah was talking the shits about MJ.

I totally agree with you. I think someone should tell Mrs. Jackson to ask Oprah why she seems to keep having MJ's name coming out of her mouth in a negative way. Put her in the hot seat.

Oprah is probably going to jam Mrs. Jackson up with question, however I am sure her lawyer will be in the audience and will have told her producers to not ask certain questions since she will be taking AEG and others to court

Thetruthbetold
10-10-2010, 04:27 AM
TMZ once again Failed that truck crew is apart of Michael Curbishley's production services the man who helped out with TII >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>until Big O confirms it then i will believe it until than GOODNIGHT

fascribes
10-10-2010, 05:13 AM
Katherine shouldn't even BE on Oprah concidering all the years Oprah put down her son. That's just me.

Why aren't these people talking to Geraldo? He was pretty good and fair to Michael.

hi

Can you or anyone explain what Oprah said about Michael? Like what negative comments ... quotes would be great!

thanks!!!

Naturelle
10-10-2010, 05:13 AM
^^^well, we'll have to wait and see what is really going down. TMZ is messin with us if this is the case!!!








i shoulda just driven by to see.:sigh:

~* White Chocolate *~
10-10-2010, 05:37 AM
I've completely become desenstized to all the B.S...I just don't even care anymore. Michael and his 3 beautiful children are the only ones that I think of on a daily basis and that I pray for, not any other member of that family. I'm waiting to see what comes of this with regards to Katherine, I just think a bunch of people are pulling her in all different directions, and Oprah can go jump off a cliff as far as I'm concerned and I do not believe I have to state my reasons why.


God, give me patience. They do not know what they say.

AMEN...FACTS DON'T LIE...AUTOPSY REPORTS DO NOT LIE...If people cannot get that through their heads...that's on them. I base my opinions on facts NOT heresay...and YES that even includes (mis)information from family members who aren't as close as they try to portray themselves to be (information provided by the same family members themselves!)...that's all I'll say...

I'm done with this crap. TMZ is B.S. and just because the different members of that family feed them and other crap media outlets with (mis)information and other "inside info." and because they happened to be the 1st outlet to report Michael's passing...they've been looked at as genuine and trustworthy...I find it disgusting...

I'm just so done with it all...done.

**leaves thread**

michaelsson
10-10-2010, 06:04 AM
gosh no no no no no no no!......

max000
10-10-2010, 06:56 AM
Queen OPRAH would love nothing more than parading MJ'S kids for the up coming november sweeps. Katherine, so far you have done an admirable job protecting MJ'S kids from the media. Please don't dissappoint us now.!!!

144,000
10-10-2010, 07:23 AM
Oprah is officially creepy.

*Oprah, this is your conscience speaking.

it's not gunna work.*

Sophielo
10-10-2010, 07:44 AM
I hope that Katherine slams Oprah for 2005. If someone had done that to a member of my family I'd kick their ass so hard, not help give them ratings.

DanceofLorelei1994
10-10-2010, 07:47 AM
I don't know who makes me sick the most. Oprah or the Jacksons.

Hocus
10-10-2010, 08:31 AM
Let's just wait and see... Let's try not to judge so fast...

You know, I'm willing to see it from Katherine's side. Now I don't know her personally, but I believe she's all about spreading love, not hate. About being humble. And about turning your other cheek to your enemies. All the stuff that she has taught Michael so well... So I don't believe that she will "slam" Oprah for negative comments made in the past...

But let's just wait and see...

lotrmj
10-10-2010, 08:39 AM
Am I the one who would like to see this interview??? I love interviews! They are a part of the history!

respect77
10-10-2010, 08:56 AM
I think it may have something to do with the LMP interview. Maybe it's re-scheduled because Oprah wants to add this Katherine interview to that program as well.

xrisx
10-10-2010, 09:23 AM
^^ If that's true than I will seriously get sick.
Why Oprah? that's all I can say right now, why go on Oprah?
Are the fans the only people that have seen and heard the way she has treated Michael?

I don't trust Oprah at all. And if she's at the house she will probably do her best and get the kids on camera as well. I just pray they will prevent that.

Honestly I don't see what the point for this interview is. I can see it from Oprah's perspective,she wants ratings for her last season.
But why would the family (or Katharine) want to do one now? They've all said their piece at some point now. They are in the middle of preparing lawsuits. Seems to me it would do more harm than good actually..

I guess as usual we can't do anything but wait and see what this is about.

144,000
10-10-2010, 09:25 AM
Let's just wait and see... Let's try not to judge so fast...

You know, I'm willing to see it from Katherine's side. Now I don't know her personally, but I believe she's all about spreading love, not hate. About being humble. And about turning your other cheek to your enemies. All the stuff that she has taught Michael so well... So I don't believe that she will "slam" Oprah for negative comments made in the past...

But let's just wait and see...


those comments sound remarkably like they come from a religious perspective..

but i have seen another phrase from that place that says..that 'we are not to lean to our own understanding..'

and when i see other phrases, from the same place, that give the seeming impression that the seemingly meek phrases, that you mentioned, may not necessarily be allowing for your enemies to step all over you, after all..then, i suppose i can appreciate the phrase that said..'lean not to your own understanding'. and i ponder over that, even more, when i remember that some of Michael's song lyrics, were quite caustic, and didn't come across as those of a person who necessarily let his enemies walk all over him.

and there are so many ways, apparently, to deal with your enemies...such as the rebuttal video that MJ had prepared for Martin Bashir.

so, i don't know if(considering the 'lean not to your own understanding' phrase) the sum of all the phrases from that religious place are necessarily of hate...since, we may not understand fully, with our own understanding...maybe, perhaps, it's all about protection of the ones we love.

Katherine once said, of the people trying to conspire against Michael..'Satan is busy'. some may say that's a hateful phrase. others may say, it's a phrase from a loving mother, who loves her son.

but like i said, in deference to my own understanding, i'm not sure. maybe it's not something for any of us to be so certain about.

so maybe, what's being expressed by the people you accuse of hate, is not hate. again, maybe it's not something to be in a position to judge, so easily.. because, again..maybe..it's not so fully understood.

Roosje
10-10-2010, 10:09 AM
I have a feeling Oprah regrets het former anti-MJ stance. Remember a lot of her friends and guests have spoken about their admiration for Michael, for Oprah probably most notably Maya Angelou. Maybe she wants to do make it right just before her last tv season ends. I don't have a negative feeling about this at all.

And what if she is indeed interviewing Jackie and not Katherine. Jackie has been one of the most loyal and sincere siblings since his little brother's passing. He's quite charming (remember Oprah said she once wanted to marry Jackie in the 1993 interview) and intelligent, so that would be quite interesting to see.

Only thing that might be worrisome is the possible involvement of the kids.

athina_livadi
10-10-2010, 11:23 AM
I don't know who makes me sick the most. Oprah or the Jacksons.

Exactly!

angelofinnocence
10-10-2010, 11:23 AM
I have a peaceful feeling about Oprah's visit.
Katherine is not Janet.
Katherine will tell the world that she and Micheal's children:
Prince, Paris, and Blanket miss their father, Michael Jackson
very much.
However, prepare yourself, Oprah will film Michael's children.
She may even interview them. Don't worry.
I think Michael's children can handle Oprah. http://angelwinks.net/images/angel3r.gif (http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii252/tink858/2hfm16f.gif)

in hope and pray you are right. x

rickd
10-10-2010, 11:29 AM
I'm actually disgusted. An actual feeling of vomit if this is true.

Shame on Katherine, shame
On the Jackson family.

This bitch, had a major hand in tearing their son Down.


Anything for ****ing money.

Tinker_Bell
10-10-2010, 12:30 PM
I have a very awkward feeling about this.... The respect I had for Oprah died long ago, she never stood up for Michael.
I just hope and wish that she is not gonna interview the kids.

Butterfly26
10-10-2010, 12:47 PM
Are we still on Michael Jackson site?


L.o.v.e.
Romi



Yes, we are. We are still hurt, still angry and still grieving. It was a bad day for me yesterday and im a loss for words that can truly express how I truly miss him.I sit quietly from time to time wondering why and how did it come to this? Oh Michael!

pilinlim
10-10-2010, 01:00 PM
really tired of this stupidity ...........oprah can go to hell ,just shut ur big mouth and leave Michael alone.:angry:

Oprah wouldn't be doing what she's doing if the Jacksons hadn't accepted her invitation. Let's stop pretending it's just Oprah and the "meanie media" who don't leave Michael alone. The Jacksons ACCEPTED to be on her show. Let's stop pretending they had a gun pointed to their heads while hearing Oprah's, TMZ's, Radar's, 20/20's, and so on, offers. They reach out to the media. It's not the media which reaches out to them, so let's stop this madness, this urge to portray the Jacksons as innocent, media preys who don't know full well what and who are they talking to. They WANT to be on Oprah, so erase the "Winfrey doesn't leave Michael alone" thoughts. She would leave him alone if his own family members ignored her offers and stopped feeding social communition with images and scenarios created by themselves with the purpose of lining their pockets.

StacyJ
10-10-2010, 01:05 PM
If this is true, it's not a good idea on Katherine's part at all.. Does this family have any clue whatsoever what Oprah and her other media counterparts did to MJ? They are part of the reason why he couldn't sleep at night

Ohood
10-10-2010, 01:20 PM
[QUOTE=pilinlim;3013763]Oprah wouldn't be doing what she's doing if the Jacksons hadn't accepted her invitation. Let's stop pretending it's just Oprah and the "meanie media" who don't leave Michael alone. The Jacksons ACCEPTED to be on her show. Let's stop pretending they had a gun pointed to their heads while hearing Oprah's, TMZ's, Radar's, 20/20's, and so on, offers. They reach out to the media. It's not the media which reaches out to them, so let's stop this madness, this urge to portray the Jacksons as innocent, media preys who don't know full well what and who are they talking to. They WANT to be on Oprah, so erase the "Winfrey doesn't leave Michael alone" thoughts. She would leave him alone if his own family members ignored her offers and stopped feeding social communition with images and scenarios created by themselves with the purpose of lining their pockets.

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thanx !
let's hope no more he was a drug addict thing !
he was not an addict and all his doctors say this !
please Kathrine do not give his enemies the chance to hurt his image :(

StacyJ
10-10-2010, 01:25 PM
Don't trust Katherine talking to Oprah at all.. this is not good

loveforever
10-10-2010, 01:25 PM
If this is true, it's not a good idea on Katherine's part at all.. Does this family have any clue whatsoever what Oprah and her other media counterparts did to MJ? They are part of the reason why he couldn't sleep at night
They have been doing all these things since Michael's here. I didn't see why they had to change now. They are the "Insiders" of those tabloids for years. They don't mind talk shit as long as their pocket's full. didn't Randy threat Michael he would call the media if he didn't let him in? we all knew why Michael distanced himself from this "family".

Memefan
10-10-2010, 02:06 PM
I don't know who makes me sick the most. Oprah or the Jacksons.

Hahaha that's an easy answer. Oprah isn't MJ's flesh & blood ... Isn't it worst when your own sell you out?

noumene
10-10-2010, 02:15 PM
Michael's not here to see this anymore. I just feel bad for the children. Their whole family is showing them it's perfectly ok to open up to the media, the same media that treated their Dad like dog turd and directly contributed to him being where he is today. So how long will it be until they're taken in too?

Big Apple2
10-10-2010, 02:18 PM
Man, I'm TOTALLY speechless (if this news is correct).

In the beginning, I wanted to be supportive of Michael's family, but then everytime you turned around they were doing something or saying something that I found very questionable. After a while you just have to throw your hands up in the air and say: I can no longer be supportive!"

It "almost" appears that if this story is true, that the camera crew was only there to capture some background footage and if that's the case, Ms. Katherine would be PAID for same. I don't believe Oprah would pay for an interview, but she would definitely PAY for any background footage, in my opinion.

If the camera crew was there for, what looks like, and hour and a half, then, in my opinion, that's not enough time to conduct a proper interview. If this is supposed to be a proper interview, then I believe Oprah would have most likely spent the entire day with Ms. Katherine.

Either way you slice it, interview or no interview, I wouldn't even want Oprah in my home to capture ANYTHING. Whether it be background shots or an interview, my response would be been: NO THANKS!

Like someone already said, "Oprah and folks like Oprah were PARTLY responsible for why Michael had a problem getting a good night sleep."

Justthefacts
10-10-2010, 02:29 PM
Michael's not here to see this anymore. I just feel bad for the children. Their whole family is showing them it's perfectly ok to open up to the media, the same media that treated their Dad like dog turd and directly contributed to him being where he is today. So how long will it be until they're taken in too?



You are assuming an awful lot. If this interview took place I doubt you will see the kids. I think I can kind of understand Mrs Jackson here if someone ask me to talk about my son who is no longer here I would do so in a heartbeat. But I would not talk to Oprah. If Oprah was there for an hour and a half no that is not long enough for an interview ESP when you consider editing and such. I will wait and see before I say anything more about this alleged interview no use and getting worked up. ESP when TMZ have been dead dog wrong before

noumene
10-10-2010, 02:48 PM
You are assuming an awful lot. If this interview took place I doubt you will see the kids.
I never said we'd see them this time, or even any time in the very near future. They're only children. Doesn't change the fact that the example set by their family is more than questionable.

JMie
10-10-2010, 02:51 PM
I'll wait till the interview before commenting...

blankyluvdoodoo
10-10-2010, 03:02 PM
Oprah wouldn't be doing what she's doing if the Jacksons hadn't accepted her invitation. Let's stop pretending it's just Oprah and the "meanie media" who don't leave Michael alone. The Jacksons ACCEPTED to be on her show. Let's stop pretending they had a gun pointed to their heads while hearing Oprah's, TMZ's, Radar's, 20/20's, and so on, offers. They reach out to the media. It's not the media which reaches out to them, so let's stop this madness, this urge to portray the Jacksons as innocent, media preys who don't know full well what and who are they talking to. They WANT to be on Oprah, so erase the "Winfrey doesn't leave Michael alone" thoughts. She would leave him alone if his own family members ignored her offers and stopped feeding social communition with images and scenarios created by themselves with the purpose of lining their pockets.

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Nobody has answered yet! What a shame to "old school" father Joe! With how many women has he had sex with as of last week?

Option A) 7
Option B) 8
Option C) 9
Option D) 10

Who wants to have a try?!

Oh well...next time get ready to answer the poll: "How many rumors have Randy, Latoya, Joe, Oxman and Rowe sold to the media about Michael being a "weak, frail, retarded, meanie junkie"?".

i am fan of Michael Jackson not jackson family .when i said stupidity ,it included everyone related to that interview.i still remember what janet said on that oprah couch. oprah mainly because i hate the word Michael is coming from her venomous mouth.

X_AGNES_X
10-10-2010, 04:25 PM
l believe if katherine wanted to do a interview, she could have a lot of choices.like many of you said,why oprah who bashed her son in his darkest moment? And how could she even have the guts to face ms jackson after what she said about Michael?well again,i guess she could do anything for rating. i don't know,maybe kathereine did this because she wanted to clear up misunderstanding that woman and many ppl have on her son.i'll have to just wait and see
but i don't feel like doing an interview with that woman is a wise idea.

max000
10-10-2010, 04:48 PM
I have a feeling Oprah regrets het former anti-MJ stance. Remember a lot of her friends and guests have spoken about their admiration for Michael, for Oprah probably most notably Maya Angelou. Maybe she wants to do make it right just before her last tv season ends. I don't have a negative feeling about this at all.

And what if she is indeed interviewing Jackie and not Katherine. Jackie has been one of the most loyal and sincere siblings since his little brother's passing. He's quite charming (remember Oprah said she once wanted to marry Jackie in the 1993 interview) and intelligent, so that would be quite interesting to see.

Only thing that might be worrisome is the possible involvement of the kids.


Not in a million yrs would OPRAH take her show to hayvenhurst just to interview JACKIE JACKSON. The big get is KATHERINE JACKSON. Don't think KATHERINE will attack OPRAH or OPRAH will be disrespectful to MJ. Two-faced OPRAH will fawning all our MJ.

CherubimII
10-10-2010, 05:14 PM
Calling all Spiritual Guardians of Michael Jackson's children.
Your prayers and comments on this matter are needed
in the "Legendary Members Section". Thank you.
Click on this link: :sun:
http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=96807

StacyJ
10-10-2010, 05:15 PM
Not in a million yrs would OPRAH take her show to hayvenhurst just to interview JACKIE JACKSON. The big get is KATHERINE JACKSON. Don't think KATHERINE will attack OPRAH or OPRAH will be disrespectful to MJ. Two-faced OPRAH will fawning all our MJ.



yep she's such a fake...

KOPV
10-10-2010, 05:30 PM
I know we've looked at Oprah as an opportunist for many years but it just suprizes me how hateful some of us fans can be!! I mean damn mulitple pages of just hate twards a person.. There are people everyday that do the same as Oprah but we never mention it.. There are even fans that have pretended they are not fans because they were embarased.

In my opinion if there were no signs of MJ having something against her nor any of his family and friends because of MJ than I'm not going to spit venum at her.. I disagree how she handled MJ and who he is but i'm not going to keep attacking her like she's Tom Sneddon or something

mjjmsc
10-10-2010, 05:50 PM
maybe katherine likes oprah's show,like millions of women..let's wait and see what happens and after make a judgement!

CherubimII
10-10-2010, 06:54 PM
maybe katherine likes oprah's show,like millions of women..let's wait and see what happens and after make a judgement!
I agree with you. :agree:

StephluvsMJ
10-10-2010, 08:13 PM
I'm going to be optimistic about this. Yes, I'm not happy with what Oprah said during and before the trial. The fact that she met Michael, went to his home, interviewed him, and that interview got her sky-rocket ratings which helped to put her on the map, only makes her subsequent actions worse in my eyes. But, that being said, she is no where near as bad as Bashir, Dimond, Grace or Sawyer. I saw Nancy Grace screaming, literally, SCREAMING at someone because they disagreed with her. I'm thankful Mrs Jackson didn't go ahead and seek out these kinds of "journalists" for an interview. Oprah, at least, lets you speak. She will try and go in for the kill and ask some uncomfortable and inappropriate questions, but if you refuse to answer, for the most part, she would move on. At least she's not going to go about screaming when she doesn't get her way. Mrs Jackson can use Oprah's popularity as a vessel to get her message/point across. It is possible to use the media to your advantage if you know how to do it.

Naturelle
10-10-2010, 08:20 PM
And, Oprah can EDIT and twist words once the interview is done.

StephluvsMJ
10-10-2010, 08:23 PM
And, Oprah can EDIT and twist words once the interview is done.

It's more than likely that she will be fair in doing so. She wouldn't be looked upon too kindly if she starts trashing on a mother who's just lost her son. She knows that too.

I saw this on another board, not sure if it was posted here but...


I just confirmation that Oprah did do an interview and she set up right in the house Friday, Saturday and half of today. Most of the interview took place yesterday and her crew just shot photos and the inside of the home, Friday and half of today. They are having a party for Jermajesty today so I don't know she is capturing that. She is going for an angle of the whole Jackson family and not just Katherine. She spoke and met with the children as well, PPB, Jermaine's kids and Donte & Randy. WOW I'm shocked. I dont know if the children will be on the show though, from what I got they will be. WOW

She's going to interview the kids? Wow... this sure does take to it another level. MJ be spewin.

Naturelle
10-10-2010, 08:37 PM
She's going to interview the kids? Wow... this sure does take to it another level. MJ be spewin.
____________

He surely would be. :(

mj_obsession
10-10-2010, 08:40 PM
What problems with addiction? Are you referring to something MJ got treated for over 10 years ago. You can defend the family without putting Michael down with innuendo. The family hasn't defined this drug addiction, these interventions or given time frames so nothing is well documented other than what MJ admitted to over 10 years ago and that is not recent. I like the Jackson family as a whole but some things they do are questionable and this seems to be one of those questionable things.

Are you for real? You're basing opinions on TMZ gossip and then having ago at me for mentioning Michael's addictions. Get real! LMAO


I don't know who makes me sick the most. Oprah or the Jacksons.

That's just an awful comment. That actually makes me sick!


I'm actually disgusted. An actual feeling of vomit if this is true.

Shame on Katherine, shame
On the Jackson family.

This bitch, had a major hand in tearing their son Down.


Anything for ****ing money.

"If this is true." Brilliant.

benscarr
10-10-2010, 09:11 PM
I don't approve of Katherine letting Oprah interview her at the Jackson Encino home (which is owned by Michael). Oprah stabbed Michael in the back, she could have helped Michael media wise if she had either supported Michael during the false abuse accusations of 1993, or if she had been impartial and looked at both sides of the story on her show (not that the Chandler's had anything credible to prove their lies). Instead, Oprah had to make a comment about herself being abused as a child, and because she was abused she decided not to support Michael. I respect the fact she has certain feelings and that I and most of use can't comprehend, but as the so called open minded person she is, she should know that in "Show Business" famous people get extorted for money by all sorts of threats and lies. She should also know that some children do lie about child abuse. The fact that her statement in 1993 about Michael, showed a mistrust in Michael's innocence and the fact he had to once again use her own experience to judge Michael and not be impartial makes me have no respect for Oprah at all. Like anyone else, if I heard someone I knew or met was being accused of child abuse, I would be wary. But with Michael the it was obvious he was being framed from day one, and that's shows how bigoted a view of Michael Oprah had of Michael. I bet she was jealous of Michael's fame.

We just have to accept it if Oprah is interviewing Katherine. Oprah is manipulative, and a fake. But I do think she will do her best to do a positive interview about Michael, because I think she riddled with guilt for not supporting Michael when he was alive. Like Madonna said at the MTV VMA's in 2009 "we turned our backs on him", I was never a fan of Madonna. But she gained my respect for being the only famous person with the guts to tell the truth how many famous people shunned Michael in 1993 and 2003. The likes of Oprah make me angry, and if I were a Jackson I'd tell her on television manipulative and false person she was to Michael. Michael put Oprah in the huge international stage, yes she was famous before she interviewed Michael. But Michael shot her chat show supernova all over the world.

In Katherine's defense, I think she will have chosen or agreed to have Oprah interview her because it will give her the maximum publicity around the world to talk positively about her son Michael. Geraldo Rivera would be more of a perfect interview, but his show in FOX News isn't as successful as Oprah. I personal think Geraldo or Larry King are the best choice for an interview (though Geraldo is the better interviewer of the two), but Oprah gets more viewers.

I also don't think we will fully know about Michael last year or two of life until his children are well in to their 20's. They may be children, but they were with Michael 24/7 and Katherine wasn't. They will know or have an idea what was going on in Michael's live. All I know is that none of this should be happening, and Michael should still be alive. He was still a healthy man, and his autopsy showed that.

StaceyMJ
10-10-2010, 09:20 PM
OK, things are getting a little too heated in here. First of all I'm just going to remind you of the multi-quote feature which means you can quote more than one post in just one reply post. Three or four posts by one poster in a row is messy, especially when there's an edit button should you need one.

Secondly, I for one am not going to come down on people who are upset at this turn of events, I mean come on. There's a lot of history with Oprah AND the family. All this coming together is bound to upset fans. Myself included. Fine, some of you think that's wrong and not 'Michael's way'. I can see it isn't, but I'm not in the sort of place yet where I can see this in that way. That's fantastic that some of you can, please don't see this as an attack because I truly wish I could have that perspective on things and see things that way, but grief affects us all differently, you know?

What we have to try to do here is support one another and help each other through these continually hard times and challenging situations. Can we try that rather than attacking each other over our differing opinions? That said, this forum will NOT become a free for all for name calling and rude comments towards any party. That, we ARE better than. Ok? I hope this clears some things up anyhow?

Any posts from here on that are over the boundaries will be removed. Remember, we all LOVE Michael with all our hearts, lets remember that and move forward as one instead of being on the verge of attack all the time. That surely would break his heart, and it's heartbreaking for us to see as well.

Just one more thing: ADDICTION TALK STOPS HERE.

Diplomate
10-10-2010, 09:34 PM
Unbelievable.

They betray him One More Time. Oprah of course and the Jackson family, ALL the Jacksons.( I don't spaeak about the kids , nephews and his nieces ).

They don't care about him.

Must be happy Michael....

ginvid
10-10-2010, 09:48 PM
I really, really like Katherine and want to support. I am just thinking that all of the events that have transpired since MJ's death have left her very vulnerable and wide open to the whims of unscrupupous people. And, it is a shame that out of all of her children, she is not getting the support she needs and the information she needs to be able to know how to react. She couldn't be. If she was, things like this woul;d not be taking place.

I think MJ has turned over in his grave multiple times at some of the events that have taken place since his death. And, I think fans have every right to express anger at some of these things. The level of anger will depend upon each person.

I can't stand that the family is time and time again welcoming individuals in to their inner circle who have blatantly and publicly dehumanized, mocked, shamed, and spit upon MJ. How could you even associate with someone who has done that to a family member of yours who you claim to love so much.

Does this family communicate with one another? Katherine may not know what Oprah has said, but I know multiple people in that family has to know. For the sake of MJ's legacy and his children, why don't they please do something that shows that have some level of common sense and love for one of their own?

The things they say and the things they do make it almost impossible to relate to them on a respectable level. To the point that in the public's eyes, even if theyw ere to come out and say something constructive, it is taken as one big joke. Even people who are not fans of Mj know what people like Oprah have said. When you associate with someone who has that kind of reputation, it is almost like a confirmation of all of their lies.

It really saddens me that the family cannot get it together.

mj_obsession
10-10-2010, 09:49 PM
OK, things are getting a little too heated in here. First of all I'm just going to remind you of the multi-quote feature which means you can quote more than one post in just one reply post. Three or four posts by one poster in a row is messy, especially when there's an edit button should you need one.

Secondly, I for one am not going to come down on people who are upset at this turn of events, I mean come on. There's a lot of history with Oprah AND the family. All this coming together is bound to upset fans. Myself included. Fine, some of you think that's wrong and not 'Michael's way'. I can see it isn't, but I'm not in the sort of place yet where I can see this in that way. That's fantastic that some of you can, please don't see this as an attack because I truly wish I could have that perspective on things and see things that way, but grief affects us all differently, you know?

What we have to try to do here is support one another and help each other through these continually hard times and challenging situations. Can we try that rather than attacking each other over our differing opinions? That said, this forum will NOT become a free for all for name calling and rude comments towards any party. That, we ARE better than. Ok? I hope this clears some things up anyhow?

Any posts from here on that are over the boundaries will be removed. Remember, we all LOVE Michael with all our hearts, lets remember that and move forward as one instead of being on the verge of attack all the time. That surely would break his heart, and it's heartbreaking for us to see as well.

Just one more thing: ADDICTION TALK STOPS HERE.

Sorry about the multiple posts, wasn't thinking :cheeky:
And regarding your last comment I was only explaining my previous posts, but I'll stop anyway.

StaceyMJ
10-10-2010, 09:54 PM
Sorry about the multiple posts, wasn't thinking :cheeky:
And regarding your last comment I was only explaining my previous posts, but I'll stop anyway.

No problem, I understand that, I just didn't want it to escalate and derail the thread. :)

ginvid - I totally agree with all you said.

CherubimII
10-10-2010, 09:56 PM
I was hoping Michael's Havenhurst home might have gotten a little less crowded.
My mistake. :cheeky:
Please post a prayer for Michael Jackson's children at this link:
http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=96807

144,000
10-10-2010, 10:09 PM
I hate to break it to you, but, Michael's problems with addiction are well known, if a member of the family wishes to discuss it then that's their prerogative, NOT YOURS! Leave them alone, the last few years has been hard enough without them learning Michael's own fans have turned. Fool!

besides breaking a site rule by calling members names, you are wrong to call Michael an addict. you have no proof. none. study before you judge. nobody is walking in Michael's shoes. NO ONE. if anybody is turning against anyone, it's you. you're protecting some members of the family, yet you're attacking the main subject of this site, who also happens to be a Jackson?

until you know about chronic pain issues, and medical and legal information, you're not in a position to call someone an addict. and if you find out more medical and legal info, you'll find out you don't have the position to call someone an addict, here.

Topflux
10-10-2010, 10:27 PM
I think probably Michael's children are giving that interview. They probably wanted that themselves. To show they are doing fine and how much they still miss Michael. Probably they are using Oprah because she has dogged Michael in the past. I mean Oprah's audience have seen that so now the same audience see the different point of view. Maybe they can't be interviewed 'without Katherine' because she takes care of them..? But probably Kate doesn't have to say anything. We'll see..

souldreamer7
10-10-2010, 10:54 PM
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CherubimII
10-10-2010, 10:58 PM
Oh well, it would appear that the Jacksons' don't intend to miss this opportunity to promote themselves as a "group" i.e. if you love Michael's children, you should love us all.

"The more things change, the more they stay the same."
I would rather Katherine had treated Michael Jackson special,
because he is in fact special, and so are his children: Prince, Paris, and Blanket.


Please say a prayer for Michael Jackson's children. :angel:

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jilliebean
10-10-2010, 11:43 PM
i c what everyone's saying but what if katherine is using this as a platform to clear everything up. i know oprah may not b the best person to use but i would never doubt that katherine's intentions are only for whotever she thinks is best for her son.
mayb we wouldn't make the same choices but i hav so much respect for katherine jackson n i highly doubt she's gonna say anything bad bout mj.
oprah is a platform infront of the whole world and maybe she wants everyone to hear the truth that needs to b told about her son.


I understand what people are saying about Oprah, I haven't watched her show in years, only because of the way she treated Michael. But I agree with what you said, Katherine is a smart women and if she wants to do this, she must have good reason. Let's wait and see.

Butterfly26
11-10-2010, 12:58 AM
I think probably Michael's children are giving that interview. They probably wanted that themselves. To show they are doing fine and how much they still miss Michael. Probably they are using Oprah because she has dogged Michael in the past. I mean Oprah's audience have seen that so now the same audience see the different point of view. Maybe they can't be interviewed 'without Katherine' because she takes care of them..? But probably Kate doesn't have to say anything. We'll see..


I truly, truly hope not. My gooodness they need to be left ALONE. When they are adults and ready to do so then they should but not now and not with Oprah. Michael would of NEVER approved of that. Katherine has attorneys who are advising her on what she can say and what she should not say. At this point that is my only peace if she does go through with the interview.

I hope she does not go through with it. Mother Katherine please don't!

rickd
11-10-2010, 01:25 AM
Those who are calling Michael Jackson an addict are so wrong. Please, do yourself a favor, go download the autopsy report. He never had a chance. Those murderers pumped him full of drugs, it was literally in his eye balls.

I'm not down for bashing Katherine but sometimes you just have to call a spade a spade. Oprah Winfrey played a part in tearing MJ down.

It doesn't matter which way you spin it, it's a terrible terrible call. What else can be Said? Is Katherine going to say something that everyone goes "oh, ok, we collectively understand Michael now and his children are awesome" bullshit, this won't happen.

Let's be clear, anything for ratings, anything for money. That's ALL that's going on here. I'm so done with the jacksons, I'm done with their greed, I'm angry those children are with them, Janet Jackson has to be the most stuck up bitch in the world for someone who can't sell a record to save herself.

I actually thought I had seen it all. In 2005 I thought I'd seen it. In 2009 I was like damn ok they gonna murder mike. Now in 2010 Katherine Jackson sits down with a woman who called her son a pedo, a weirdo, compares herself to him. NOT only that, she invites the bitch in michaels house! It's ok cos the kids are weren't there!? Yeah ppb y'all need to go shopping down melrose today like daddy used to cos oprah Winfrey coming with cameras and grandma needs a new air con unit.

Somebody...make it stop.

prettygirlmj
11-10-2010, 02:14 AM
I don't care if Katherine wants to sell out her son (again) by doing that Oprah interview, but Leave Michael's 3 kids out of it. As if having them sign belt buckles (which the estate stopped them from selling) was low enough as it is...going to the Grammy's to accept an award when Michael had always did everything he could to protect them from the public.....Now Oprah?... LEAVE those 3 kids out of all that money making BS. Enough is enough. I don't care if the kids themselves want to set records straight on Oprah - no. They still don't know (I assume) the major backstabbing Oprah did to their dad. If they did know, I'm sure they would never do it with Oprah. Same way they want nothing with Arnie Klein or Grace Rwamba.

Katherine, Respect your son's decision in their upbringing and leave them out of the limelight. Let them make that choice at 18.

BTW this was just posted a few mins ago on http://technorati.com/. It doesn't paint a flattering picture of the way The Jackson's are capatalizing off of Michael's death. Here's the text, link below.


With talk of Katherine Jackson's purported appearance on Oprah my first reaction was a visceral distaste - a feeling of disgust that made me want to speak to Michael Jackson's Mom and tell her "don't go!"

Tell her to preserve what is left of her son's honor and dignity. To not expose his memory to the withering rapacious gaze and questioning of ratings-hungry Oprah and her public. No good can come of this.


Other members of Michael's family have already jumped at and created opportunities to capitalize on his great fame. From wrongful death law suits filed by father Joe to absurd retrospective Las Vegas shows headed up by brother Jermaine to a growing queue of supposed children of the late superstar, the list of people trying to trample on Michael Jackson's past life for profit continues to grow.

This is one reason why we hoped that his mother, of all people, would show a touch of class and stay out of the public eye. Can she really believe that appearing on Oprah is likely to do any good for her late son's reputation? Does Katherine not see how horribly low-class it is to go on television and speak about her late son?

Someone of Michael Jackson's stature, the person who defined pop music for several decades and remains the inarguable and absolute king of the genre, at a minimum deserves complete respect from his mother - and this means not being talked about in form in front of many millions of people on television.

Katherine, please look deeply within and ask yourself: would Michael want me on Oprah talking about him? Would my darling son, who tried so hard to maintain a modicum of privacy while he lived, be pleased having his mother, of all people, on Oprah. The answer is an obvious and loud "NO."

Katherine should show Michael just a touch of the tremendous class that he invariably displayed during his amazing, yet often sad, and tragically aborted life.



Read more: http://technorati.com/entertainment/celebrity/article/will-they-ever-leave-michael-jackson/#ixzz120ryEliV



http://technorati.com/entertainment/celebrity/article/will-they-ever-leave-michael-jackson/

AngieJ
11-10-2010, 02:32 AM
Thanks for posting that, prettygirlmj. That write up nailed it comepletely.

serendipity
11-10-2010, 02:34 AM
Damn, I hope they won't be exploiting Michael's children like that. Why is this necessary exactly? Poor MJ will be rolling in his grave if his kids end up on Oprah. Hopefully Katherine won't allow this.

prettygirlmj
11-10-2010, 02:34 AM
Thanks for posting that, prettygirlmj. That write up nailed it comepletely.

Oh....I know..... sad but it is true.


Damn, I hope they won't be exploiting Michael's children like that. Why is this necessary exactly? Poor MJ will be rolling in his grave if his kids end up on Oprah. Hopefully Katherine won't allow this.

I hope *if* it's true the kids will be interview by Oprah, that the estate puts a stop to it like they did with that belt buckle autograph of the kids Katherine and Joseph tried selling off. Hoping Katherine would put a stop to this is hopeless. The women who Michael trusted to watch over his kids if something was to happen to him, had all three kids sign a belt buckle to try to sell off. If it weren't for the estate, she would have sold it with Joe. So don't carry too much hope with Katherine. lol

Rasta Pasta
11-10-2010, 02:37 AM
oh boy.. dont know what to thing

StacyJ
11-10-2010, 02:38 AM
Oprah makes me sick.. Someone needs to tell Katherine what Oprah said about her son

goldiee
11-10-2010, 02:42 AM
I really, really like Katherine and want to support. I am just thinking that all of the events that have transpired since MJ's death have left her very vulnerable and wide open to the whims of unscrupupous people. And, it is a shame that out of all of her children, she is not getting the support she needs and the information she needs to be able to know how to react. She couldn't be. If she was, things like this woul;d not be taking place.

I think MJ has turned over in his grave multiple times at some of the events that have taken place since his death. And, I think fans have every right to express anger at some of these things. The level of anger will depend upon each person.

I can't stand that the family is time and time again welcoming individuals in to their inner circle who have blatantly and publicly dehumanized, mocked, shamed, and spit upon MJ. How could you even associate with someone who has done that to a family member of yours who you claim to love so much.

Does this family communicate with one another? Katherine may not know what Oprah has said, but I know multiple people in that family has to know. For the sake of MJ's legacy and his children, why don't they please do something that shows that have some level of common sense and love for one of their own?

The things they say and the things they do make it almost impossible to relate to them on a respectable level. To the point that in the public's eyes, even if theyw ere to come out and say something constructive, it is taken as one big joke. Even people who are not fans of Mj know what people like Oprah have said. When you associate with someone who has that kind of reputation, it is almost like a confirmation of all of their lies.

It really saddens me that the family cannot get it together.

Kudos!!

I have never seen a family react like this.

If they don't show that they respect their loved one, no one else will.

prettygirlmj
11-10-2010, 02:42 AM
I'm sure Katherine knows. She was always up to date when it came to the press and Michael...

This is what boggles my mind.

blankyluvdoodoo
11-10-2010, 02:44 AM
I don't care if Katherine wants to sell out her son (again) by doing that Oprah interview, but Leave Michael's 3 kids out of it. As if having them sign belt buckles (which the estate stopped them from selling) was low enough as it is...going to the Grammy's to accept an award when Michael had always did everything he could to protect them from the public.....Now Oprah?... LEAVE those 3 kids out of all that money making BS. Enough is enough. I don't care if the kids themselves want to set records straight on Oprah - no. They still don't know (I assume) the major backstabbing Oprah did to their dad. If they did know, I'm sure they would never do it with Oprah. Same way they want nothing with Arnie Klein or Grace Rwamba.

Katherine, Respect your son's decision in their upbringing and leave them out of the limelight. Let them make that choice at 18.

BTW this was just posted a few mins ago on http://technorati.com/. It doesn't paint a flattering picture of the way The Jackson's are capatalizing off of Michael's death. Here's the text, link below.


With talk of Katherine Jackson's purported appearance on Oprah my first reaction was a visceral distaste - a feeling of disgust that made me want to speak to Michael Jackson's Mom and tell her "don't go!"

Tell her to preserve what is left of her son's honor and dignity. To not expose his memory to the withering rapacious gaze and questioning of ratings-hungry Oprah and her public. No good can come of this.


Other members of Michael's family have already jumped at and created opportunities to capitalize on his great fame. From wrongful death law suits filed by father Joe to absurd retrospective Las Vegas shows headed up by brother Jermaine to a growing queue of supposed children of the late superstar, the list of people trying to trample on Michael Jackson's past life for profit continues to grow.

This is one reason why we hoped that his mother, of all people, would show a touch of class and stay out of the public eye. Can she really believe that appearing on Oprah is likely to do any good for her late son's reputation? Does Katherine not see how horribly low-class it is to go on television and speak about her late son?

Someone of Michael Jackson's stature, the person who defined pop music for several decades and remains the inarguable and absolute king of the genre, at a minimum deserves complete respect from his mother - and this means not being talked about in form in front of many millions of people on television.

Katherine, please look deeply within and ask yourself: would Michael want me on Oprah talking about him? Would my darling son, who tried so hard to maintain a modicum of privacy while he lived, be pleased having his mother, of all people, on Oprah. The answer is an obvious and loud "NO."

Katherine should show Michael just a touch of the tremendous class that he invariably displayed during his amazing, yet often sad, and tragically aborted life.



Read more: http://technorati.com/entertainment/celebrity/article/will-they-ever-leave-michael-jackson/#ixzz120ryEliV



http://technorati.com/entertainment/celebrity/article/will-they-ever-leave-michael-jackson/

thanks for posting it,so true.

8701girl
11-10-2010, 02:46 AM
I don't care if Katherine wants to sell out her son (again) by doing that Oprah interview, but Leave Michael's 3 kids out of it. As if having them sign belt buckles (which the estate stopped them from selling) was low enough as it is...going to the Grammy's to accept an award when Michael had always did everything he could to protect them from the public.....Now Oprah?... LEAVE those 3 kids out of all that money making BS. Enough is enough. I don't care if the kids themselves want to set records straight on Oprah - no. They still don't know (I assume) the major backstabbing Oprah did to their dad. If they did know, I'm sure they would never do it with Oprah. Same way they want nothing with Arnie Klein or Grace Rwamba.

Katherine, Respect your son's decision in their upbringing and leave them out of the limelight. Let them make that choice at 18.

BTW this was just posted a few mins ago on http://technorati.com/. It doesn't paint a flattering picture of the way The Jackson's are capatalizing off of Michael's death. Here's the text, link below.


With talk of Katherine Jackson's purported appearance on Oprah my first reaction was a visceral distaste - a feeling of disgust that made me want to speak to Michael Jackson's Mom and tell her "don't go!"

Tell her to preserve what is left of her son's honor and dignity. To not expose his memory to the withering rapacious gaze and questioning of ratings-hungry Oprah and her public. No good can come of this.


Other members of Michael's family have already jumped at and created opportunities to capitalize on his great fame. From wrongful death law suits filed by father Joe to absurd retrospective Las Vegas shows headed up by brother Jermaine to a growing queue of supposed children of the late superstar, the list of people trying to trample on Michael Jackson's past life for profit continues to grow.

This is one reason why we hoped that his mother, of all people, would show a touch of class and stay out of the public eye. Can she really believe that appearing on Oprah is likely to do any good for her late son's reputation? Does Katherine not see how horribly low-class it is to go on television and speak about her late son?

Someone of Michael Jackson's stature, the person who defined pop music for several decades and remains the inarguable and absolute king of the genre, at a minimum deserves complete respect from his mother - and this means not being talked about in form in front of many millions of people on television.

Katherine, please look deeply within and ask yourself: would Michael want me on Oprah talking about him? Would my darling son, who tried so hard to maintain a modicum of privacy while he lived, be pleased having his mother, of all people, on Oprah. The answer is an obvious and loud "NO."

Katherine should show Michael just a touch of the tremendous class that he invariably displayed during his amazing, yet often sad, and tragically aborted life.



Read more: http://technorati.com/entertainment/celebrity/article/will-they-ever-leave-michael-jackson/#ixzz120ryEliV



http://technorati.com/entertainment/celebrity/article/will-they-ever-leave-michael-jackson/



That letter sums up everything i've been thinking bout this whole oprah/mrs jackson interview.

AngieJ
11-10-2010, 02:48 AM
The women who Michael trusted to watch over his kids if something was to happen to him, had all three kids sign a belt buckle to try to sell off. If it weren't for the estate, she would have sold it with Joe. So don't carry too much hope with Katherine. lol

Yeah, this is why I don't get when fans say, Katherine knows best. I love Katherine and I do feel for her, but that belt buckle fiasco shows she can make a bad call when it comes to the kids.

8701girl
11-10-2010, 02:52 AM
And other thing that is worrying me, is if the kids do on the show the media will say more crap and will try to cause another "custody" rumor

ExoticPrincess
11-10-2010, 02:55 AM
I really don't think they would dare have those children be apart of any interview. With that said though, the mere fact that Oprah may actually meet Mike's kids is upsetting enough!

Lets all just wait this out and see what happens.

Courtney
11-10-2010, 03:48 AM
Oh gosh...

Do they not see a pattern going on here with Oprah?

Naturelle
11-10-2010, 04:15 AM
No problem, I understand that, I just didn't want it to escalate and derail the thread. :)

ginvid - I totally agree with all you said.

I'm also sorry as well.

Memefan
11-10-2010, 04:25 AM
Can we get a confirmation that the kids did give an interview? I think for once, MJ's fanbase should unite and use the press. Many in the media are weary of the Jacksons...and I think if the fans speak up loud enough (and use the media to create havoc)...we might be able to put a stop to Oprah's exploitation of 3 minor orphan children.

Before going on the attack, we need some type of confirmation that the 3 children did participate in this.

Absolutely agree with Justthefacts, no need to rush into attack mode. We need hard proof that the 3 kids did take part in the interview.

Justthefacts
11-10-2010, 04:48 AM
I think it is important to wait and see what is going on before we act all kinds of crazy. I am going to go out on a limb and say no Michael's kids are not apart of this Michael trusted his Mothers judgement and I am sure she would not do anything like put those kids on TV knowing how he felt about things like that. The fact that the kids were not that whatever Randy called himself doing on June 25 2010 shows me that Mrs Jackson is not down for putting the kids on display. So everyone just stop until we find out for sure. Now Mrs Jackson wants to talk about her son then who are we to say she should not? Granted I wish it were not Okra I think she is a two faced backstabbing holier then thou you know what who has no right to even say Michael's name out of her mouth. But unlike her daughter I don't think Mrs Jackson would just sit there and let Okra talk down about her son in her house it is not going to happen. So lets wait and see

144,000
11-10-2010, 04:59 AM
I think it is important to wait and see what is going on before we act all kinds of crazy. I am going to go out on a limb and say no Michael's kids are not apart of this Michael trusted his Mothers judgement and I am sure she would not do anything like put those kids on TV knowing how he felt about things like that. The fact that the kids were not that whatever Randy called himself doing on June 25 2010 shows me that Mrs Jackson is not down for putting the kids on display. So everyone just stop until we find out for sure. Now Mrs Jackson wants to talk about her son then who are we to say she should not? Granted I wish it were not Okra I think she is a two faced backstabbing holier then thou you know what who has no right to even say Michael's name out of her mouth. But unlike her daughter I don't think Mrs Jackson would just sit there and let Okra talk down about her son in her house it is not going to happen. So lets wait and see


it's easy to say, but it's not that black and white. Oprah is a professional snake. she knows how to make people say what she wants them to say. you don't get to be that successful in the media, otherwise. it's just the way of the media. it doesn't matter what Katherine's intentions are. and, quite frankly, site members have a right to feel however they feel about this. it's easy to have a short memory, when trying to remember what Oprah is fully capable of. then, there's the problem of editing. Oprah has earned the questionable reputation among many Michael Jackson fans. she worked hard for it.

Justthefacts
11-10-2010, 05:03 AM
And because of Oprah being such a snake I can understand everyone being worried. But I don't think Mrs Jackson is anything like the other female Jackson that Oprah talked too. And will not allow her to diss her son to her face ESP in her home

144,000
11-10-2010, 05:10 AM
And because of Oprah being such a snake I can understand everyone being worried. But I don't think Mrs Jackson is anything like the other female Jackson that Oprah talked too. And will not allow her to diss her son to her face ESP in her home

again, there's the problem of editing. the nbc dateline program made her look like a buffoon, who 'didn't know what she was talking about'. you don't think Oprah is capable of doing that, with editing?

Justthefacts
11-10-2010, 05:12 AM
Which would be obvious

144,000
11-10-2010, 05:16 AM
Which would be obvious
to you, maybe. but not to many observers. there are a lot of Martin Bashirs out there, like i said. they just have different names.

michaelsson
11-10-2010, 06:51 AM
to you, maybe. but not to many observers. there are a lot of Martin Bashirs out there, like i said. they just have different names.

and ill drink 2that

Sophielo
11-10-2010, 07:14 AM
There has been nothing to suggest that Oprah interviewed the children, just that she met them at the house so the attacks need to stop.

Vici
11-10-2010, 08:37 AM
Katherine & Joe Jackson Do 'Oprah'
32 minutes ago by TMZ Staff

As we first reported, production trucks for Oprah's show were parked outside the Jackson compound in Encino for the better part of Saturday. In the photos, Oprah can be seen meeting with several family members and getting the tour of the house.

We're told the interview focused heavily on Michael Jackson (duh) -- talking about his life, his kids and the book Katherine put together about his life.

No word yet on when the episode will air.

Katherine and Joe Jackson sat down with Oprah Winfrey this weekend to tape a segment for O's show ... and TMZ has the first photos http://photos.tmz.com/galleries/oprah_visits_jackson_family_home#tab=most_recent

http://www.tmz.com/2010/10/11/katherine-jackson-oprah-winfrey-show-michael-jackson-photo/#comments-anchor

GOLDSPACESUIT45
11-10-2010, 08:43 AM
I have seen the photo i was about to posted it but i saw this.

gerryevans
11-10-2010, 09:08 AM
I'm going to be optimistic about this. Yes, I'm not happy with what Oprah said during and before the trial. The fact that she met Michael, went to his home, interviewed him, and that interview got her sky-rocket ratings which helped to put her on the map, only makes her subsequent actions worse in my eyes. But, that being said, she is no where near as bad as Bashir, Dimond, Grace or Sawyer. I saw Nancy Grace screaming, literally, SCREAMING at someone because they disagreed with her. I'm thankful Mrs Jackson didn't go ahead and seek out these kinds of "journalists" for an interview. Oprah, at least, lets you speak. She will try and go in for the kill and ask some uncomfortable and inappropriate questions, but if you refuse to answer, for the most part, she would move on. At least she's not going to go about screaming when she doesn't get her way. Mrs Jackson can use Oprah's popularity as a vessel to get her message/point across. It is possible to use the media to your advantage if you know how to do it.

No, Oprah's not as bad as the Grace's, etc., but in a way, it gives her more credibility. The Grace's can be easily dismissed. Oprah's subtlety gives more credence to the negative slant she puts out there. She hasn't been as bad since his death, but she was IMO just as obviously biased as Sawyer prior to it.

I wish Mrs. Jackson was media savvy enough to effectively counter Oprah, but unfortunately, she isn't. She does evoke sympathy as someone who genuinely loved the son who openly adored her, but other than that, she comes off as ill informed and with promoting the book, self-serving.

JMie
11-10-2010, 09:09 AM
Katherine and Joe Jackson sat down with Oprah Winfrey this weekend to tape a segment for O's show ... and TMZ has the first photos http://photos.tmz.com/galleries/oprah_visits_jackson_family_home#tab=most_recent


wow. this is going to be a biggest episode of Oprah's final season, that's for sure....

:(

#1MJstan
11-10-2010, 09:11 AM
Katherine & Joe Jackson Do 'Oprah' (http://www.tmz.com/2010/10/11/katherine-jackson-oprah-winfrey-show-michael-jackson-photo/)



http://ll-media.tmz.com/2010/10/10/1010-oprah-jackson-gallery-launch-credit.jpg (http://photos.tmz.com/galleries/oprah_visits_jackson_family_home)


No word yet on when the episode will air.


http://www.tmz.com/

Well from the photos it doesn't appear to have the children apart of the show.. So many of you can start calming down

AllForLove
11-10-2010, 09:31 AM
Katherine & Joe Jackson Do 'Oprah' (http://www.tmz.com/2010/10/11/katherine-jackson-oprah-winfrey-show-michael-jackson-photo/)






No word yet on when the episode will air.




Could this something to do with the new album ? Just asking :scratch:

X_AGNES_X
11-10-2010, 09:56 AM
it made me sick to see that woman in mj's house.

The Healer
11-10-2010, 10:04 AM
Oprah has no shame whatsoever. She will do anything for ratings.
I am really surprised Katherine agreed to this. Maybe she wants to set things straight with Oprah and I know Katherine won"t say anything confusing about Michael but still....
There are other journalists. Why Oprah ?!

JMie
11-10-2010, 10:12 AM
There are other journalists. Why Oprah ?!

what other journalists? they all treated Michael in the same way... :(

Memefan
11-10-2010, 10:35 AM
Could this something to do with the new album ? Just asking :scratch:

I just cant with people...

Joe is suing the estate (wants to REMOVE THE ADMINISTRATORS)....AND HE IS PROMOTING THE NEW ALBUM? An album put together by the very people, whom Joe's lawyer stated in court, hate his client?

This is to plug Katherine's book. Period.

the same people behind the belt...behind the paid NBC interview are also behind Oprah's interview.

oprah will have an interview...in exchange she will plug Katherine's book on her show...That is better than being paid for the interview. Have you ever heard of how many books Oprah's book club's picks sell?

LisaU123
11-10-2010, 10:53 AM
As usual everyone jumped to conclusions that the kids are part of this. In all the pictures posted on TMZ they are not in them and if they were interviewed I am sure whoever sold those pictures would have sold ones of them

144,000
11-10-2010, 10:59 AM
what other journalists? they all treated Michael in the same way... :(
yes. the mind doesn't want to fathom that this is true, but it is true.

billyworld99
11-10-2010, 11:09 AM
maybe part of doing this interview so mrs. jackson can can help some of her family fianically

JMie
11-10-2010, 11:37 AM
the sam people behind the belt...behind the paid NBC interview or also behind Oprah's interview.


the belt made an appearance in one of the TMZ photos. I guess they didn't let go of the idea to find a way to sell them.

Diplomate
11-10-2010, 11:42 AM
Just see the photos.

I want to vomit.....

So nice to see a family, mother and father, betray their son....

helena22
11-10-2010, 11:47 AM
No matter what type of interview it'll be, I'm just sick of this whole thing. Oprah being in the house and smiling, that's just too much to handle.

I do have this little hope that Katherine may give Oprah's fake ass some serious ass-whooping, but uh...I'm not getting my hopes up too much cuz I don't wanna be let down.....

Moonwalker.Fan
11-10-2010, 11:54 AM
http://cdn.photos.tmz.com/gallery_images/images/2010/10/1_full.jpghttp://michael-jackson-2009.fr/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/michael-jackson-oprah-winfrey.jpg

Katherine vs. Oprah 2010 (Encino) - Michael vs. Oprah 1993 (Neverland)

Moonwalker.Fan
11-10-2010, 11:57 AM
has Katherine ever seen Oprah shows where she bashed Michael and called him almost peadophile permanently trying to persuade people he was guilty?

There is no member of the Jackson Family who would warn Katherine????

JMie
11-10-2010, 12:05 PM
http://michael-jackson-2009.fr/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/michael-jackson-oprah-winfrey.jpg

Katherine vs. Oprah 2010 (Encino) - Michael vs. Oprah 1993 (Neverland)

that interview turned me into a fan....

i can't believe he's gone :(

Butterfly26
11-10-2010, 12:12 PM
The killing part is that she is so, so fake and oh so phony. I can hear her phony, goofy laugh and nothing about her is the least bit sincere. Oprah could care less about MJ, his children nor his legacy. It’s a ratings opportunity. ICK! I’m waiting for her to eventually distort everything that Katherine has said and go right back to mocking him and depicting him as weird and inappropriate. I would of never introduced Prince, Paris and Blanket to her she does not deserve it. I hope she did not ask them one question and they offer no replies about their well being, nor their father. I won’t be watching the show of neither Katherine nor Lisa interview when it does air. There will be NO ratings plug here for Oprah from me. My loss of respect for Oprah just didn’t start with what she did to Michael. Oprah has been self serving long before this. I wish Katherine wanted to share her feelings and her book of memories with someone else. Why not Maury or Geraldo? At least they did not mock him after meeting him and learning more about him. I’m just so disgusted.

Moonwalker.Fan
11-10-2010, 12:22 PM
MJ kids should watch her shows where she offended Michael, I think kids should have their say in MJs matters and have the knowledge about that!!!!

JMie
11-10-2010, 12:29 PM
I am afraid she's preparing a special on Michael that will include the Jackson family, Lisa and god knows who else.

xrisx
11-10-2010, 01:22 PM
I am afraid she's preparing a special on Michael that will include the Jackson family, Lisa and god knows who else.

See I'm trying to withhold judgement now because we don't know what is going on, but if this is true and Oprah is going to do that, that's it for me. In my opinion that would be the tackiest thing they could do.

(I deleted a part of what I wrote here because I guess it could be seen as a small rant against Oprah and LMP. We don't need that drama again so I just took it out.)

Honestly I don't know what is going on over there and why the need for Oprah. When I heard Joe was there and also interviewed it started making some kind of sense to me.
It seems to me that this isn't like something Katherine would do on her own. It's sad that there still seems to be some sort of agenda being run around her. Obviously part of it is that they want to promote that book still.

Mostly what bothers me is that it seems fans have a longer term memory than most of the people who were actually a part of his life. What is up with that?

I'm really trying to relax and just wait and see what happens but that has backfired so many times in all these years it's hard not to get worked up I guess.

Memefan
11-10-2010, 01:29 PM
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CherubimII
11-10-2010, 03:23 PM
Please, allow me to quote myself.


Oh well, it would appear that the Jacksons' don't intend to miss this opportunity to promote themselves as a "group"
i.e. if you love Michael's children, you should love us all.

"The more things change, the more they stay the same."
I would rather Katherine had treated Michael Jackson special,
because he is in fact special, and so are his children: Prince, Paris, and Blanket.


Please say a prayer for Michael Jackson's children. :angel:

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Tsukiji
11-10-2010, 03:30 PM
I know I will be called naive by some but I don't see how this is done for purely financial purposes at all. His mother and all of his family (for the most part) truly want the world to know about the reality of who Michael was..He deserves that. And although I am not a fan of Oprah, I would say it's one of the most maximum exposure interview things at the moment.

Do some people here truly believe that his ENTIRE family doesn't still love Michael? Do you really think it's all about money for all of them? Really? It's his family, and as fans even though we hurt from his death his family must feel it in a deeper sense, naturally. It's Michael's children's family too, I think some of you seem to forget it, and create this whole divisive thing between Michael's children and their uncles/aunts/cousins ect, they are all Jacksons...I'm sure they would be really deeply saddened by some of the things said here.

I can 100% understand the frustration but please, don't condemn an entire family based on actions that you don't like by some of them. Michael loved Katherine deeply, I feel she knows what she is doing... Just my opinion on all of this..

GOLDSPACESUIT45
11-10-2010, 03:30 PM
I hope Oprah does NOT ask the same questions she ask MJ. I hope she does not ask katherine the whole face thing and 93 and 05 case and the beatings on MJ because its over.

Lucilla
11-10-2010, 03:34 PM
there are a lot of Martin Bashirs out there, like i said. they just have different names.


I can 100% understand the frustration but please, don't condemn an entire family based on actions that you don't like by some of them. Michael loved Katherine deeply, I feel she knows what she is doing... Just my opinion on all of this..

:agree:

CherubimII
11-10-2010, 03:58 PM
I am personally ONLY a fan of Michael Jackson and his children:
Prince, Paris, and Blanket.
I am not a fan of the "Jackson Family".

Pray for Michael Jackson's children: Prince, Paris, and Blanket. :angel:

GOLDSPACESUIT45
11-10-2010, 04:05 PM
How can you not be a fan of The Jackson family? Its just like saying you only watch the beatles cause John Lennon was part of the group. I like the Jacksons.If MJ was still around and invited you to meet his whole family would you say to MJ no thanks i dont care about your family just you? Iam not mad lol just curious.

pilinlim
11-10-2010, 04:12 PM
Contrary to what Justthefacts stated, it wasn't Oprah who dissed Michael during Janet's interview. It was Janet herself.

I'm horrified at the fact that Katherine is doing this. Its slightly obvious, though, that she is doing this because her husband asked her to. In order to promote his book- and, eventually, make LOTS of money- the two agreed to this interview. I'm also horrified at the pictures of Oprah hugging Joe. Here's a woman who- as she, herself firmly stated- hated monsters, hugging a man who dedicated his entire life to viciously exploiting one of his sons until the day he took his last breath. Here is Oprah shaking hands with a man who sees his family as slaves and who, effectively, always treated them as such. A man who made his son's life a living hell in the name of money, sex and fame. A guy who acted like a psycopath since day one. If it looks like a duck, talks like a duck and walks like a duck...


It's OBVIOUS that Joe is the one behind this. It doesn't take Einstein to realize he was the one who ordered Katherine to do this so his book can be promoted. And, simple as that, the hunger for fame and spotlight hogging ways were also determinant for "Mr. Jackson".

Another thing: don't be deceived by "old school" Poppa Joe. HE was the one behind the book but put it in Katherine's name, made it seem that Katherine was the who had the idea, the one who has the mastermind. Joe knew the book wouldn't sell if he didn't make "factor Katherine" a mask for the book. He makes/de his wife promote it, he makes it seem as if it was just her idea, her project and that he has nothing to do with it. But, in reality, it was ALL his idea and Michael's mother is just being used as its face. Otherwise, it wouldn't sell (and Joe knows it).

How many times will the family, through eufemisms, claim Michael was lying in regards to Joe's parenting skills? How many times will Katherine and her "old school" husband repeat what Randy, Leonard Rowe and Oxman are saying?

This will be the "last facade" as Bob Herbert once said.

pilinlim
11-10-2010, 04:19 PM
How can you not be a fan of The Jackson family? Its just like saying you only watch the beatles cause John Lennon was part of the group. I like the Jacksons.If MJ was still around and invited you to meet his whole family would you say to MJ no thanks i dont care about your family just you? Iam not mad lol just curious.

I have a different yet more realistic question: how can you be a fan of The Jackson family?

Gold, the real world says "hello!"! Michael didn't need his family for absolutely anything. Without his siblings, he would have become just as big. Comparing Michael's brothers to McCartney and Harrison is like asking a car expert to tell a Ferrari from a Mini.

Michael wouldn't invite anybody to meet his family. He made sure he had zero contact with them. Hell, he made sure they were far, far away from him.


THE REAL WORLD HAS JUST BURSTED YOUR BUBBLE.

And, yes, nobody cares about Michael's talentless family, only deluded people who actually think he needed them as a "foundation" for his musical career. Damn, you share the Jacksons' mentality: if you are a fan of Michael then you are a fan of the Jacksons. Well, surprise, surprise; most people are just MICHAEL Jackson fans. You can be a fan of a person without being a fan of his/her family. It's idiotic to claim that you have to be a Jackson family supporter, not just a MJ one or that you have to care about them all, not just Michael.

JMie
11-10-2010, 04:20 PM
How can you not be a fan of The Jackson family? Its just like saying you only watch the beatles cause John Lennon was part of the group. I like the Jacksons.If MJ was still around and invited you to meet his whole family would you say to MJ no thanks i dont care about your family just you? Iam not mad lol just curious.

Can I answer that? If it was Michael who invited me to meet his family, I would definitely go. But if it was any other Jackson, Jermaine, Janet, whoever, and I knew that Michael would not be present at that meeting, I'd say, thanks but no thanks. It's not because I don't like them. It's because I am indifferent towards them. Nothing they do or say interests me and I don't know what to talk to them about.

terrell
11-10-2010, 04:25 PM
I do not think Ms. Katherine care on bit what anyone thinks at this point. As some folks have said, you are MJ fans, not there, so that is more of reason not to care what anyone thinks. To me, I does not matter no more. If Ms. Katherine feel this will help her, so be it.

GOLDSPACESUIT45
11-10-2010, 04:26 PM
Well remember what being a Michael Jackson fan is all about? Michael taught us to love each other and respect each other. Dont judge anyone unless you talk to them one on one. Dont read tabloids. Sometimes i feel like we fans cant get along. I have never met the Jackson family. But they are all out there. The only thing that has change is that MJ is gone.

mj_obsession
11-10-2010, 04:28 PM
besides breaking a site rule by calling members names, you are wrong to call Michael an addict. you have no proof. none. study before you judge. nobody is walking in Michael's shoes. NO ONE. if anybody is turning against anyone, it's you. you're protecting some members of the family, yet you're attacking the main subject of this site, who also happens to be a Jackson?

until you know about chronic pain issues, and medical and legal information, you're not in a position to call someone an addict. and if you find out more medical and legal info, you'll find out you don't have the position to call someone an addict, here.

Well actually I've already provided proof and backed up what I said quite clearly, unfortunately it was removed for whatever reason. Also, I have long suffered with addiction and my father and best friend died from it so you assuming I don't know what I'm talking about is an insult.


I know I will be called naive by some but I don't see how this is done for purely financial purposes at all. His mother and all of his family (for the most part) truly want the world to know about the reality of who Michael was..He deserves that. And although I am not a fan of Oprah, I would say it's one of the most maximum exposure interview things at the moment.

Do some people here truly believe that his ENTIRE family doesn't still love Michael? Do you really think it's all about money for all of them? Really? It's his family, and as fans even though we hurt from his death his family must feel it in a deeper sense, naturally. It's Michael's children's family too, I think some of you seem to forget it, and create this whole divisive thing between Michael's children and their uncles/aunts/cousins ect, they are all Jacksons...I'm sure they would be really deeply saddened by some of the things said here.

I can 100% understand the frustration but please, don't condemn an entire family based on actions that you don't like by some of them. Michael loved Katherine deeply, I feel she knows what she is doing... Just my opinion on all of this..

I totally agree :cheeky:

terrell
11-10-2010, 04:29 PM
Katherine shouldn't even BE on Oprah concidering all the years Oprah put down her son. That's just me.

Why aren't these people talking to Geraldo? He was pretty good and fair to Michael.
They have already talked to Geraldo. Also, Geraldo once thouhght MJ was guilty UNTIL he met Mj and saw the fact in this second case. So even Geraldo was NOt ALWAYS FAIR.

terrell
11-10-2010, 04:34 PM
I have a different yet more realistic question: how can you be a fan of The Jackson family?

Gold, the real world says "hello!"! Michael didn't need his family for absolutely anything. Without his siblings, he would have become just as big. Comparing Michael's brothers to McCartney and Harrison is like asking a car expert to tell a Ferrari from a Mini.

Michael wouldn't invite anybody to meet his family. He made sure he had zero contact with them. Hell, he made sure they were far, far away from him.


THE REAL WORLD HAS JUST BURSTED YOUR BUBBLE.

And, yes, nobody cares about Michael's talentless family, only deluded people who actually think he needed them as a "foundation" for his musical career. Damn, you share the Jacksons' mentality: if you are a fan of Michael then you are a fan of the Jacksons. Well, surprise, surprise; most people are just MICHAEL Jackson fans. You can be a fan of a person without being a fan of his/her family. It's idiotic to claim that you have to be a Jackson family supporter, not just a MJ one or that you have to care about them all, not just Michael.
I love MJ as well but one can ever say they do not need their family for anything. That is LIE for all of us. You, like me, love MJ but you have to remember if he was NOT in show biz and pushed, YOU like me would NOT know about a Michael jackson in which JOE, Barry Gordy, and many others help to push and mold that talent regardless if you like it or not.

CherubimII
11-10-2010, 04:37 PM
How can you not be a fan of The Jackson family? Its just like saying you only watch the beatles cause John Lennon was part of the group. I like the Jacksons.If MJ was still around and invited you to meet his whole family would you say to MJ no thanks i dont care about your family just you? Iam not mad lol just curious.
In general I don't approve of families who put one of their 5 year old
children to work for the rest of the entire family, and insist that
he keep doing so for the rest of his life on the planet Earth.

GOLDSPACESUIT45
11-10-2010, 04:38 PM
I resepect Katherine very much. I can see why some fans dont like Joe Jackson.

terrell
11-10-2010, 04:45 PM
In general I don't approve of families who put one of their 5 year old
children to work for the rest of the entire family, and insist that
he keep doing so for the rest of his life on the planet Earth.
Tell me this, do you own a Jackson 5 record, video, or cd? If so, why did you buy that kind of cd and video IF you so called disagree with it as you claim? I told a fomer DJ this when he complain about what MJ being too young and never had a child. I ask him quick, "how long have you been a DJ for a radio station before you retired? He said he was a DJ since 1971 until 1990. I told him, why did you boycott Jackson 5 record because you thought a young MJ was too young? He was silent for a moment. I told him that is the hypocrisy that I find with people who say what he say. See, Joe, Barry Gordy, etc could NOT do anything the public, the DJ, etc did not want them to do. Do not get me wrong, I am guilty as well but I along with everyone else, need to stop pointing fingers and look at what hand we as a public had in this mess as well. If the Jackson 5 and YOUNG Michael could NOT sell records, guess what, They would have dropped from the record company and back in Gary and OUT of music biz; but no, we brought it, the music company, radio, etc saw $$$$$, and the public eat it up and continue to support and spend $$$$. Even in death, fans are spending $$$$$, people from newspaper, intenet sites, music biz, friends, family, employees, etc are making $$$$$. MJ was a $$$$ man when he was alive and it will be even after death. Sad but that is how it goes Look at all other dead celebs like Elvis, frank Santra, Sammy Davis, etc (even Michael knew this. Look how he compare his legacy and how he wanted to be remember just like folks do to Elvis because MJ was bigger and better than Elvis: and Michael wanted to be the BEST and make $$$$$ and everyone want to make money as well even his lawyer who are over the estate). Sorry but that is how it goes.

mj_obsession
11-10-2010, 04:48 PM
Tell me this, do you own a Jackson 5 record, video, or cd? If so, why did you buy that kind of cd and video IF you so called disagree with it as you claim? I told a fomer DJ this when he complain about what MJ being too young and never had a child. I ask him quick, "how long have you been a DJ for a radio station before you retired? He said he was a DJ since 1971 until 1990. I told him, why did you boycott Jackson 5 record because you thought a young MJ was too young? He was silent for a moment. I told that is the hypocrisy I find with people who say this. See, Joe, Barry Gordy, etc could NOT do anything the public, the DJ, etc did not want them to do. Do not get me wrong, I am guilty as well but I along with everyone else, need to quick point fingers and look at what hand we as a public had in this mess as well. If the Jackson 5 and YOUNG Michael could NOT sell records, guess what, They would have dropped and back in Gary and OUT of music biz. look at one hit wonders.

That's a great point to make. Thanks for posting. :)

marc_vivien
11-10-2010, 07:06 PM
EXCLUSIVE: 'Puppet' Katherine Jackson Being Controlled By Son Randy & Naked Wrestling Boss
Posted on Oct 11, 2010 @ 01:30PM print it send it

Katherine Jackson was persuaded by her son, Randy, to file the wrongful death lawsuit against AEG, RadarOnline.com has exclusively learned.

“Katherine didn't want to sue AEG for Michael's death,” a source with knowledge of the situation tells us.

“Katherine was ultimately swayed by her son Randy to sue AEG.

“Most people assume that the lawsuit was Joe's -- and that Joe controls Katherine, but Randy has much more control of Katherine than Joe does.

“Joe spends a majority of his time in Las Vegas.

“Randy lives in Southern California and sees Katherine at least 4-5 times a week."

The wrongful death lawsuit that Katherine filed against AEG stunned even her closest advisers who weren't notified about the action.

“Katherine has a couple of business associates that are independent of any Jackson family control or influence,” said the source.

“Those associates weren't told about the lawsuit and were absolutely stunned, as they had advised her in the past not to sue AEG.”

Michael's three children, who live at the Jackson family Encino compound, are going to have to endure their dad's name being dragged through the mud again, the source claimed.

“Michael's children are going to suffer the most because of this lawsuit,” added the source.

“It's truly sad that they are going to have to go through this. The kids will hear unflattering things about their dad because of this lawsuit.

“They are the real victims in all of this.”

Randy Jackson is responsible for introducing Howard Mann, the founder of the Naked Women's Wrestling League, to his mom.

Said the source, “It was Howard Mann's idea to have Katherine and Joe appear on The Oprah Winfrey Show.

“Katherine is for all intents and purposes a puppet for Randy and Howard for financial gain for the two of them.

"Katherine is biting the hand that feeds her by suing AEG.

“One of the reasons Michael's estate is getting out of the red, and making a profit, is because of the footage AEG shot of Michael during his rehearsals, which ended up being turned into the movie that has made the estate very, very rich.”

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2010/10/exclusive-puppet-katherine-jackson-being-controlled-son-randy-naked-wrestling

max000
11-10-2010, 07:11 PM
The presence of JOE JACKSON officially makes this show a circus, and undermines katherine.
Looks like the show will be a promotion bonaza for the jackson clan. How many JACKSONS will be making an appearance to promote whatever.? Let oprah and the jacksons use each other. Just exclude MJ'S kids.

pilinlim
11-10-2010, 07:48 PM
Randy has been, since May 2009 or somewhere near, TMZ's "all things Jackson related" source. Obviously, he was the one who took the photos and sold them to the tabloid. Remember Randy is TMZ's, Radaronline's and X17's main source. I guess he wanted to keep his job as an "insider" and, eventually, his pockets full.

The more I read about him, the more I realize the biggest monster in the Jackson family aren't neither Jermaine nor Joe. It's Randy himself. Evidently, in his twitter -after realizing the fans knew he was TMZ's "inside source", the one providing rumors, photos and so on- Randy immeadiately claimed he had been "caught off guard" by one of TMZ's staff and had "no choice other than say one or two things". The guy is an expert in inventing cover ups. Just to think that, all this time, Michael's own flesh and blood was the tabloids biggest source! Just to think he is even worse than Diane Dimond herself. Just to think it was Randy who came up with the "Michael is a junkie" argument so he could sue AEG and get an enormous payday...sickens me. He was the one who invented his brother was a drug addict so he could have an argument to sue a rich entity, in this case AEG. He is the one behind most "Michael was a junkie" rumors and, certainly, the one persuading just about EVERYBODY that P,P&B's dad was a drug addict. Randy is the one who fed both the media and his family with slandering rumors about his brother. Why? So the image that Michael was a "weak, frail, about-to-die JUNKIE" would stick and he could sue AEG using a variation of the Disabilities Act (remember: the only way to shift the blame to AEG, the ones with the millions, was by claiming MJ was a druggie). And, eventually, get a BIG payday. You can call me a hater, if you want.

pilinlim
11-10-2010, 08:00 PM
The presence of JOE JACKSON officially makes this show a circus, and undermines katherine.
Looks like the show will be a promotion bonaza for the jackson clan. How many JACKSONS will be making an appearance to promote whatever.? Let oprah and the jacksons use each other. Just exclude MJ'S kids.

Randy is screaming at the top of his lungs with joy.

I can only imagine him instructing Katherine; "We're going to pass the image that Michael was a weak, frail, about to die junkie" so the blame can be shifted to AEG, the ones with the millions. Claim as many times as you can that Michael was a junkie, OK? And that he was weak, frail...and extremely addicted. Let's paint him as a street junkie, shall we? By doing that, we can sue AEG and try getting an enormous payday. Let's drag his name through the mud, let's murder what's left of his legacy by portrauing him as a hopless addict so we can sue that rich company, full of millions.".

It's not as if we didn't know who was feeding clueless Janet with "information". Get, now, who was her source? Randy was the one feeding clueless Jackson family with information totally made up by him, so he could line his pockets.

Sophielo
11-10-2010, 08:03 PM
Guys there's a lot of strong claims being made here. I understand you're all angry, believe me I'm angry as well, I can't believe that she's allowed to set foot in that house after what she did in 2005, but we need to be careful with the claims that are being thrown around here with no solid proof.

pilinlim
11-10-2010, 08:07 PM
Guys there's a lot of strong claims being made here. I understand you're all angry, believe me I'm angry as well, I can't believe that she's allowed to set foot in that house after what she did in 2005, but we need to be careful with the claims that are being thrown around here with no solid proof.

But Oprah's not family. She's not supposed to be automatically protective. We, as fans, are more hurt by psycopath Randy's psycopathic actions than we are by Oprah's.

Uups...did I just called Randy a psycopath?

Sophielo
11-10-2010, 08:14 PM
God knows to be honest. I've just about had enough with the family. I think priorities have been replaced by things that shouldn't be priorities. I feel that getting justice for Michael, which should be the top priority, has taken a back seat to law suits aand deals trying to get as much money as possible. I'm angry that a doctor is still allowed to practice who has been charged with manslaughter and is still walking around free. I feel personally a lot of vent up anger to a lot of people in Mike's life. Yes I'm only a fan I know that but sometimes I feel we are the only people that care about getting justice for Michael and yet we're fighting as well. I have questions that need to be answered but no one will answer them. I'm angry that Oprah Winfrey after what she said in 2005 is allowed in the house and I can only pray that the kids have no idea what she said about their dad.

max000
11-10-2010, 08:24 PM
Does this board fret too much about easy targets Joe and Jermaine, when the silent assassin is RANDY JACKSON.?

Roosje
11-10-2010, 08:30 PM
Who made those blurry pics? Is this proof that a family member leaks all the info and gossip to TMZ? This is quite worrisome. I don't at all recognise Michael's ways in the actions of his family. It's sad :(

mj_obsession
11-10-2010, 08:34 PM
BANDWAGON NUMBER TWO OF THIS THREAD: WE HATE RANDY JACKSON.

But of course, like always, we're basing opinions on gossip sites and tabloids.

What an unbelievably sad state of affairs.

I heard from another rag that it was actually La Toya who killed Michael and not Murray, can we all now pass hate onto her? It's only right. Ugh.

Sophielo
11-10-2010, 08:39 PM
Who made those blurry pics? Is this proof that a family member leaks all the info and gossip to TMZ? This is quite worrisome. I don't at all recognise Michael's ways in the actions of his family. It's sad :(

Apparently it was an extended family member. Took it with their phone and sold it to TMZ.

Memefan
11-10-2010, 08:49 PM
Does this board fret too much about easy targets Joe and Jermaine, when the silent assassin is RANDY JACKSON.?

MANY OF US HAVE BEEN SCREAMING THIS AT THE TOP OF OUR LUNGS for over a year...but many stains here trust Randy.

Randy is an evil man. I could say a lot worst...including his role in MJ's death....but nevermind...


ETA:
And yes, I WROTE RANDY JACKSON'S ROLE IN MICHAEL JACKSON'S DEATH.


I don't at all recognise Michael's ways in the actions of his family.

And you never will.

mj_obsession
11-10-2010, 08:53 PM
Randy is an evil man. I could say a lot worst...including his role in MJ's death....but nevermind.

I would very much like to hear more. If not on here PM or a forum with less rules :cheeky:

PS TMZ proved to the BBC they don't pay for anything. Mainly through AOL tax returns. Unless they pay cold hard cash(likely.)

Sophielo
11-10-2010, 08:53 PM
Taj is addressing the situation on Twitter at the moment:

@tajjackson3 (http://twitter.com/#%21/tajjackson3) Taj Jackson
Talked to my grandma before she did it.We all want to clear MJ's name.That's our first priority. We are trying to set the record straight .

2 minutes ago (http://twitter.com/#%21/tajjackson3/status/27067629558) via TweetDeck (http://www.tweetdeck.com/)

@tajjackson3 (http://twitter.com/#%21/tajjackson3) Taj Jackson
I am the first person who is angry at Oprah and how she turned her back at my uncle. However you let things linger and the world believes.

1 minute ago (http://twitter.com/#%21/tajjackson3/status/27067718703) via TweetDeck (http://www.tweetdeck.com/)


@tajjackson3 (http://twitter.com/#%21/tajjackson3) Taj Jackson
I personally don't care what Oprah thinks, but I do care what her millions of audience thinks about my uncle. Esp. when it's not true at all

[/URL] via [URL="http://www.tweetdeck.com/"]TweetDeck (http://twitter.com/#%21/tajjackson3/status/27067877621)

angelofinnocence
11-10-2010, 08:55 PM
maybe Katherine thinks that you keep your friends close, and your enemies closer. This show, if successful could help MJ's and his families image. I do not like Oprah at all. BUt she is the woman who seems to have power over the public and their opnions. If the Katherine et al can speak to Oprah, they can mould MJ's legacy in a positive way. Maybe it is time use the backstabbers to help MJ.

Tsukiji
11-10-2010, 08:58 PM
Taj is addressing the situation on Twitter at the moment:

@tajjackson3 (http://twitter.com/#%21/tajjackson3) Taj Jackson
Talked to my grandma before she did it.We all want to clear MJ's name.That's our first priority. We are trying to set the record straight .

2 minutes ago (http://twitter.com/#%21/tajjackson3/status/27067629558) via TweetDeck (http://www.tweetdeck.com/)

@tajjackson3 (http://twitter.com/#%21/tajjackson3) Taj Jackson
I am the first person who is angry at Oprah and how she turned her back at my uncle. However you let things linger and the world believes.

1 minute ago (http://twitter.com/#%21/tajjackson3/status/27067718703) via TweetDeck (http://www.tweetdeck.com/)


@tajjackson3 (http://twitter.com/#%21/tajjackson3) Taj Jackson
I personally don't care what Oprah thinks, but I do care what her millions of audience thinks about my uncle. Esp. when it's not true at all

[/URL] via [URL="http://www.tweetdeck.com/"]TweetDeck (http://twitter.com/#%21/tajjackson3/status/27067877621)

Thanks for posting this Sophielo :)

marebear
11-10-2010, 08:59 PM
I like Taj. The family knows what she did.

ginvid
11-10-2010, 09:00 PM
I would very much like to hear more. If not on here PM or a forum with less rules :cheeky:

PS TMZ proved to the BBC they don't pay for anything. Mainly through AOL tax returns. Unless they pay cold hard cash(likely.)

Harvey Levin was on CNN after MJ died and he said from his own mouth that TMZ will pay for information.

pilinlim
11-10-2010, 09:02 PM
MANY OF US HAVE BEEN SCREAMING THIS AT THE TOP OF OUR LUNGS for over a year...but many stains here trust Randy.

Randy is an evil man. I could say a lot worst...including his role in MJ's death....but nevermind...


ETA:
And yes, I WROTE RANDY JACKSON'S ROLE IN MICHAEL JACKSON'S DEATH.



And you never will.

Over a year? Memefan, we've been "screaming this" for over 6 years! I could write pages and pages on Randy Jackson and everything he's done. 95% of the fans don't know one third. The man is more than "an evil man": he's an absolute monster.

And yes, he has an enormous role in MJ's and his legacy's death.

God, I bet even you don't know half of what that guy has done. Randy is one, if not "the" one, of MJ's biggest enemies.

pilinlim
11-10-2010, 09:09 PM
maybe Katherine thinks that you keep your friends close, and your enemies closer. This show, if successful could help MJ's and his families image. I do not like Oprah at all. BUt she is the woman who seems to have power over the public and their opnions. If the Katherine et al can speak to Oprah, they can mould MJ's legacy in a positive way. Maybe it is time use the backstabbers to help MJ.

And you actually think Randy, Joe and company are minimally worried about Michael and his legacy? They'll use this interview for their own ends.

Guess what? It was Randy who arranged this interview. I don't think he would arrange such big an interview if it wasn't for his own advantage: and we know full well what kind of image he wants to pass. If it wasn't with that purpose, he wouldn't do everything in his power to contact Oprah. To sum up for Jackson family fans; Randy arranged this interview so he could pass an image of Michael that suits his agenda. Otherwise he wouldn't be so worried/putting so much effort in making this happen. And we know he is the one behind it. And we know he wouldn't be "behind it" if he didn't have an agenda.

Tsukiji
11-10-2010, 09:15 PM
pilinlim did you not see the tweets by Taj? According to him this will be a very positive thing, to set things right, and I for one trust in that..

yaazgurl
11-10-2010, 09:29 PM
Randy has been, since May 2009 or somewhere near, TMZ's "all things Jackson related" source. Obviously, he was the one who took the photos and sold them to the tabloid. Remember Randy is TMZ's, Radaronline's and X17's main source. I guess he wanted to keep his job as an "insider" and, eventually, his pockets full.

The more I read about him, the more I realize the biggest monster in the Jackson family aren't neither Jermaine nor Joe. It's Randy himself. Evidently, in his twitter -after realizing the fans knew he was TMZ's "inside source", the one providing rumors, photos and so on- Randy immeadiately claimed he had been "caught off guard" by one of TMZ's staff and had "no choice other than say one or two things". The guy is an expert in inventing cover ups. Just to think that, all this time, Michael's own flesh and blood was the tabloids biggest source! Just to think he is even worse than Diane Dimond herself. Just to think it was Randy who came up with the "Michael is a junkie" argument so he could sue AEG and get an enormous payday...sickens me. He was the one who invented his brother was a drug addict so he could have an argument to sue a rich entity, in this case AEG. He is the one behind most "Michael was a junkie" rumors and, certainly, the one persuading just about EVERYBODY that P,P&B's dad was a drug addict. Randy is the one who fed both the media and his family with slandering rumors about his brother. Why? So the image that Michael was a "weak, frail, about-to-die JUNKIE" would stick and he could sue AEG using a variation of the Disabilities Act (remember: the only way to shift the blame to AEG, the ones with the millions, was by claiming MJ was a druggie). And, eventually, get a BIG payday. You can call me a hater, if you want.

I think you're going to get banned if you go on like this. And some of your facts are mixed up. Katherine is not using the disability act as a claim in her suit against AEG that's Joe and I doubt Randy influenced him with that. First you blamed Joe for this interview and now you want to shift the blame to Randy. You can have your opinion about the family but you seem to get more negative with each post. I've seen people like you banned rather quickly for that.

mj_obsession
11-10-2010, 09:38 PM
I think you're going to get banned if you go on like this. And some of your facts are mixed up. Katherine is not using the disability act as a claim in her suit against AEG that's Joe and I doubt Randy influenced him with that. First you blamed Joe for this interview and now you want to shift the blame to Randy. You can have your opinion about the family but you seem to get more negative with each post. I've seen people like you banned rather quickly for that.

I don't think banning someone for their opinion is sensible. However misleading people with made up facts is a different story.

pilinlim
11-10-2010, 09:45 PM
I think you're going to get banned if you go on like this. And some of your facts are mixed up. Katherine is not using the disability act as a claim in her suit against AEG that's Joe and I doubt Randy influenced him with that. First you blamed Joe for this interview and now you want to shift the blame to Randy. You can have your opinion about the family but you seem to get more negative with each post. I've seen people like you banned rather quickly for that.

Katherine is using a variation of the Disabilities Act; "He was a junkie and therefore unhealthy and weak and AEG failed to see that and continued pushing him, therefore they are to blame for his death.". Rowe, Joe, Oxman and Randy have cooked the (false) image that MJ was a "weak and frail junkie and blahblahblah" for that purpose. If they don't use that argument there is NO way they can sue AEG, since there is no other.

Will I get banned? Yes, I will. However, I'll get banned will the conscience that I did open many fans' eyes: eyes that, if not opened, won't understand what, how and who destroyed the leftovers of Michael's legacy/image. As a non/neutral fan was telling me the other day, "Michael's legacy days are numbered". And it's because of his own family members. The supporters who, so effortfully want me to be banned because I refuse to talk positively about the Jacksons, are the ones who will have to deal with Michael's amazingly ruined image within few years and, then -and only then- will realize how did it happen. I'm just playing the "I told you a priori" role. But that, Yaazgurl, is none of my business. Until then, let's pretend Randy is just a "loving bro" and Joe, the "old school poppa", is nothing more than that: an "old school poppa".

Some people don't seem to see the wood for the trees.

pilinlim
11-10-2010, 09:47 PM
I don't think banning someone for their opinion is sensible. However misleading people with made up facts is a different story.

For instance, tell me one fact that I've made up.

C'mon: if you are so certain that I am "misleading people", point me one fact (I just ask for one!) that I've made up. C'mon!

You're just like the Jacksons. They all claim Michael was addicted. However, when asked to what, exactly, was he addicted to, they aren't able to answer. When presented with questions such as how do they know he was addicted, what evidence do they have to call him a drug addict, what, how, when, why...they all aren't able to answer.

So I ask you, respectfully, to present evidence that I'm making up facts. Come on: tell me one fact that I've made up, so far. I'm making it easy: I'm just asking for one!

yaazgurl
11-10-2010, 09:49 PM
Katherine is using a variation of the Disabilities Act; "He was a junkie and therefore unhealthy and weak and AEG failed to see that and continued pushing him, therefore they are to blame for his death.". Rowe, Joe, Oxman and Randy have cooked the (false) image that MJ was a "weak and frail junkie and blahblahblah" for that purpose. If they don't use that argument there is NO way they can sue AEG, since there is no other.

Will I get banned? Yes, I will. However, I'll get banned will the conscience that I did open many fans' eyes: eyes that, if not opened, won't understand what, how and who destroyed the leftovers of Michael's legacy/image. As a non/neutral fan was telling me the other day, "Michael's legacy days are numbered". And it's because of his own family members. The supporters who, so effortfully want me to be banned because I refuse talks positively about the Jacksons, are the ones who will have to deal with Michael's amazingly ruined image within few years and, then -and only then- will realize how did it happen. I'm just playing the "I told you a priori" role. But that, Yaazgurl, is none of my business. Until then, let's pretend Randy is just a "loving bro" and Joe, the "old school poppa", is nothing more than that: an "old school poppa".

Some people don't seem to see the wood for the trees.

Well I'll agree to disagree regarding Katherine's lawsuit. From what I read, she's charging AEG with forcing medical treatment on Michael. No where did I read that Michael was a junkie otherwise I wouldn't support her in that.

bluetopez
11-10-2010, 09:55 PM
So glad Taj said that he don't care for Oprah and he too don't like what she had done to MJ! He spoke to his grandma about it first and the only reason they want to do the show is to clear MJs name from those damn allegations! Awesome! :)

But...at the same time doesn't it just completely shows how much of a hypocrite Oprah is, that she only now wants to talk about MJ to his family after he dies! Cause I'm sure they talked first about the questions that will be raised and to think Oprah might have agreed to help clear MJ name is unbelievable! LOL Damn Hypocrite!

Also, if the family calls MJ a drug addict I don't see that as helping clear his name on yet another B.S claim! And Joe being part of that interview it's clear that it will go down that road must likely! OH LORD!

pilinlim I don't like randy nor Joe much myself but, who are you blaming, one or both, separate or together? I'm confused and how much more is Randy to blame according to you? Cause I only heard of him trying to get MJ to sell the catalog and gagging fans with the mjjsource website! Which was surprising he would do that! And I'm asking you for real! I wanna know and decide! So if u can write it here or you can PM me thanks!

mj_obsession
11-10-2010, 09:58 PM
For instance, tell me one fact that I've made up.

C'mon: if you are so certain that I am "misleading people", point me one fact (I just ask for one!) that I've made up. C'mon!

You're just like the Jacksons. They all claim Michael was addicted. However, when asked to what, exactly, was he addicted to, they aren't able to answer. When presented with questions such as how do they know he was addicted, what evidence do they have to call him a drug addict, what, how, when, why...they all aren't able to answer.

So I ask you, respectfully, to present evidence that I'm making up facts. Come on: tell me one fact that I've made up, so far. I'm making it easy: I'm just asking for one!

Just one misleading made up fact?


Katherine is using a variation of the Disabilities Act; "He was a junkie and therefore unhealthy"

Nowhere has Katherine called her son a "junkie"

Thank you goodnight.

Post: "Yes" to see pilinlim banned.

Yes. :clapping:

LisaU123
11-10-2010, 09:59 PM
I applaud Taj! Someone that makes sense.

pilinlim
11-10-2010, 10:28 PM
Just one misleading made up fact?

Yes, just one.



Nowhere has Katherine called her son a "junkie"

Thank you goodnight.

Post: "Yes" to see pilinlim banned.

Yes. :clapping:

Thank you very much. I wish you a good night, as well. Winter's coming: make sure you use a blanket!

"Yes" to Pilinlim getting banned!? I guess the truth hurts. Jackson family fans like you hate the truth. Whenever anyone dares to actually tell the truth, they either start putting Michael down or scream "I want you banned" from the top of their lungs. Or both.

Another inevitable symptom is the difficulty in understanding things. If something is not there, directly, in black and white, they'll not be able to interpret it. Katherine did not call MJ a junkie but, by sueing AEG, she is, indirectly and implicitly, calling her son a "junkie"...mainly if you realize that Randy and Joe are the ones behind it.

Tenho dito.

ginvid
11-10-2010, 10:32 PM
Can we stop with all of the bitterness here? I suddenly feel better now that I have heard Taj is involved. but I am still weary.

I also have asked many times what Randy did and I cannot get a clear answer. I want to be PMed as well. I know he has done some mad shady things and I would be interested to know what they are.

Katherine's exact words in her lawsuit, I will find and post. But from what I remember, she did give the impression that MJ was unhealthy because of treatments Murray gave and AEG was or should have been aware of it.

This is what I could find without having to reread that whole thread:

His mother's lawsuit described Jackson in his last months as "confused, easily frightened, unable to remember, obsessive, and disoriented."

"He had impaired memory, loss of appetite, dehydration, and absence of energy," it said. "He was cold and shivering during the summer rehearsals for this show."

max000
11-10-2010, 10:42 PM
The JACKSONS don't come across credible or sympathetic, because every time they chat about MJ they are always freaking promoting/selling something.

yaazgurl
11-10-2010, 10:47 PM
Can we stop with all of the bitterness here? I su
This is what I could find without having to reread that whole thread:

His mother's lawsuit described Jackson in his last months as "confused, easily frightened, unable to remember, obsessive, and disoriented."

"He had impaired memory, loss of appetite, dehydration, and absence of energy," it said. "He was cold and shivering during the summer rehearsals for this show."

Nevermind. I hope that people are asking for proof about the "facts" being shared about Randy otherwise you are just supporting slander.

rockstar
11-10-2010, 10:52 PM
Katherine & Joe Jackson Do 'Oprah'


Katherine and Joe Jackson sat down with Oprah Winfrey (http://www.tmz.com/person/oprah-winfrey/) this weekend to tape a segment for O's show ... and TMZ has the first photos.

http://ll-media.tmz.com/2010/10/10/1010-oprah-jackson-gallery-launch-credit.jpg (http://photos.tmz.com/galleries/oprah_visits_jackson_family_home)
As we first reported, production trucks for <nobr style="color: rgb(208, 30, 2); font-weight: normal; font-size: 100%; font-family: Arial,&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,Helvetica,sans-serif;" id="itxt_nobr_1_0">Oprah'shttp://images.intellitxt.com/ast/adTypes/mag-glass_10x10.gif</nobr> (http://www.tmz.com/2010/10/11/katherine-jackson-oprah-winfrey-show-michael-jackson-photo/#) show were parked outside the Jackson compound (http://www.tmz.com/2010/10/09/katherine-jackson-oprah-winfrey-interview-michael-jackson/) in Encino for the better part of Saturday. In the photos, Oprah can be seen meeting with several family members and getting the tour of the house.

We're told the interview focused heavily on Michael Jackson (http://www.tmz.com/person/michael-jackson/) (duh) -- talking about his life, his kids and the book Katherine put together about his life.

No word yet on when the episode will air.

here is link:http://www.tmz.com/2010/10/11/katherine-jackson-oprah-winfrey-show-michael-jackson-photo/

ivy
11-10-2010, 10:55 PM
Harvey Levin was on CNN after MJ died and he said from his own mouth that TMZ will pay for information.

TMZ only pay for pictures and videos as Harvey sees them actual hard proof of an event.

They do not pay sources for pure verbal information because as Harvey puts it : if they do pay for such things it would give "incentive" to people to lie and make up stories.

Memefan
11-10-2010, 10:58 PM
Just one misleading made up fact?



Nowhere has Katherine called her son a "junkie"

Thank you goodnight.

Post: "Yes" to see pilinlim banned.

Yes. :clapping:

you are so childish...Why should a person be banned for speaking their mind? What if someone asked that you be banned for your poor contribution to the thread. Your questions are often nonsensical borderline annoying...but no one has asked for your banishment.

If you cannot handle it...go read something else.

This is a grownup discussion.... No one faults you for being overwhelmed.


Dora & Diego....-------->this way.



TMZ only pay for pictures and videos as Harvey sees them actual hard proof of an event.

They do not pay sources for pure verbal information because as Harvey puts it : if they do pay for such things it would give "incentive" to people to lie and make up stories.

Anyone who believes TMZ did not pay someone for the latest pictures should gain some knowledge on tabloid journalism before commenting on this story.

rockstar
11-10-2010, 11:02 PM
you are so childish...Why should a person be banned for speaking their mind? What if someone asked that you be banned for your poor contribution to the thread. Your questions are often nonsensical borderline annoying...but no one has asked for your banishment.

If you cannot handle it...go read something else.

This is a grownup discussion.... No one faults you for being overwhelmed.


Dora & Diego....-------->this way.

:giggle: :lol: Dora & Diego....-------->this way :toofunny:

ginvid
11-10-2010, 11:04 PM
TMZ only pay for pictures and videos as Harvey sees them actual hard proof of an event.

They do not pay sources for pure verbal information because as Harvey puts it : if they do pay for such things it would give "incentive" to people to lie and make up stories.

I remember him saying that they pay for verbal information if it can be corroborated. But I guess that is what you mean. To corroborate it, you will need something concrete even if the concrete source cannot be revealed at the time.

max000
11-10-2010, 11:13 PM
MemeFan, you are killing me here.!!! Too funnny.!!!

CherubimII
11-10-2010, 11:14 PM
Tell me this, do you own a Jackson 5 record, video, or cd? If so, why did you buy that kind of cd and video IF you so called disagree with it as you claim? I told a fomer DJ this when he complain about what MJ being too young and never had a child. I ask him quick, "how long have you been a DJ for a radio station before you retired? He said he was a DJ since 1971 until 1990. I told him, why did you boycott Jackson 5 record because you thought a young MJ was too young? He was silent for a moment. I told him that is the hypocrisy that I find with people who say what he say. See, Joe, Barry Gordy, etc could NOT do anything the public, the DJ, etc did not want them to do. Do not get me wrong, I am guilty as well but I along with everyone else, need to stop pointing fingers and look at what hand we as a public had in this mess as well. If the Jackson 5 and YOUNG Michael could NOT sell records, guess what, They would have dropped from the record company and back in Gary and OUT of music biz; but no, we brought it, the music company, radio, etc saw $$$$$, and the public eat it up and continue to support and spend $$$$. Even in death, fans are spending $$$$$, people from newspaper, intenet sites, music biz, friends, family, employees, etc are making $$$$$. MJ was a $$$$ man when he was alive and it will be even after death. Sad but that is how it goes Look at all other dead celebs like Elvis, frank Santra, Sammy Davis, etc (even Michael knew this. Look how he compare his legacy and how he wanted to be remember just like folks do to Elvis because MJ was bigger and better than Elvis: and Michael wanted to be the BEST and make $$$$$ and everyone want to make money as well even his lawyer who are over the estate). Sorry but that is how it goes.

The entertainment industry is the only industry in America still allowed to practice child labor.
I am going to allow Michael Jackson to tell you how he felt
about being forced to go to work for a family of 10
since he was 5 years old:
WATCH THE VIDEO: "Childhood"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNdKb1hLyCA&feature=fvst

mj_obsession
11-10-2010, 11:20 PM
you are so childish...Why should a person be banned for speaking their mind? What if someone asked that you be banned for your poor contribution to the thread. Your questions are often nonsensical borderline annoying...but no one has asked for your banishment.

If you cannot handle it...go read something else.

This is a grownup discussion.... No one faults you for being overwhelmed.


Dora & Diego....-------->this way.




Anyone who believes TMZ did not pay someone for the latest pictures should gain some knowledge on tabloid journalism before commenting on this story.

That was a joke hence the sarcastic clapping!

Do try and read before making bizarre comments


Why should a person be banned for speaking their mind?

Have you read whats been said?

AGAIN, PLEASE READ THE ENTIRE THREAD


Anyone who believes TMZ did not pay someone for the latest pictures should gain some knowledge on tabloid journalism before commenting on this story.

She clearly explained they pay for photos


TMZ only pay for pictures and videos as Harvey sees them actual hard proof of an event.

Can you understand my point yet?

BunnyHead
11-10-2010, 11:21 PM
Don't go dogging Katherine!!

If she decides to do the show I respect her decision 100% and I support her getting out there and schooling the world...including Ms. Winfrey.

I know she is doing the right thing, I can't believe people are getting upset.
Katherine is no joke when it comes to her children.

ExoticPrincess
11-10-2010, 11:46 PM
I now see that Joe Jackson is apart of this and I'm like wow. Wonder if Oprah will ask him about his comments to Katherine after Mike passed essentially blaming her for his passing? what about promoting his record company a fews days after his sons passing?

This should be interesting.

ginvid
11-10-2010, 11:51 PM
Some of these were posted already. I got them off of another site.

From Taj's twitter:

tajjackson3 Taj Jackson
Mj's legacy is being shaped everyday. I owe it to my uncle to do everything in my power to keep it alive and erase all the untruths.

tajjackson3 Taj Jackson
Me neither RT @planetpatrisse: @tajjackson3 cuz i did not like that so called tribute of hers

tajjackson3 Taj Jackson
It's time to set the record straight with everyone. RT @feuerkindjana: so bacically your family wants to set the record straight with O?

tajjackson3 Taj Jackson
I personally don't care what Oprah thinks, but I do care what her millions of audience thinks about my uncle. Esp. when it's not true at all

tajjackson3 Taj Jackson
I am the first person who is angry at Oprah and how she turned her back at my uncle. However you let things linger and the world believes.

tajjackson3 Taj Jackson
Talked to my grandma before she did it.We all want to clear MJ's name.That's our first priority. We are trying to set the record straight

tajjackson3 Taj Jackson
Getting many tweets abt Oprah. its vry important 2 not let that same audience of Oprah think wht Oprah said or thought in the past was tru.

tajjackson3 Taj Jackson
Very aware.. RT @AngelaDF: @tajjackson3 Speaking for many fans here when I ask is your family aware of how much Oprah has disrespected MJ?

prettygirlmj
11-10-2010, 11:58 PM
So the family know about Oprah's betrayal and calling their son a ********** over the years and they still did an interview with her.

My god Oprah better put her ego down and apologize to his parents for all that trashing she did over the years. Only then will I understand why Katherine would do an interview with Oprah.

ivy
12-10-2010, 12:04 AM
Overall after Taj's tweets I'm in a wait and see position - but still I believe that there were better alternatives than Oprah.

Honestly seeing all those pictures that Oprah happily interacting with people at Hayvenhurst makes me feel uneasy when I know how she had treated Michael. You can sit down for an interview with a person without being friendly with them.

and I really hope that the Micheal's kids do not make an appearance on her show.


I remember him saying that they pay for verbal information if it can be corroborated. But I guess that is what you mean. To corroborate it, you will need something concrete even if the concrete source cannot be revealed at the time.

Exactly that's what he means by collaboration. If someone can provide hard cold evidence (such as pictures and videos) they pay. If it's just a verbal information (in other words : tips) they don't.


Anyone who believes TMZ did not pay someone for the latest pictures should gain some knowledge on tabloid journalism before commenting on this story.

They have their logo on the pictures - it's almost definitive that they did pay for those latest inside the house cell pictures.

prettygirlmj
12-10-2010, 12:11 AM
Yes there are better alternatives then Oprah. Geraldo Rivera being one.

MsCassieMollie
12-10-2010, 12:14 AM
Taj is in the right direction. We NEED to clear Michael's name once and for all.

blankyluvdoodoo
12-10-2010, 12:14 AM
Randy is screaming at the top of his lungs with joy.

I can only imagine him instructing Katherine; "We're going to pass the image that Michael was a weak, frail, about to die junkie" so the blame can be shifted to AEG, the ones with the millions. Claim as many times as you can that Michael was a junkie, OK? And that he was weak, frail...and extremely addicted. Let's paint him as a street junkie, shall we? By doing that, we can sue AEG and try getting an enormous payday. Let's drag his name through the mud, let's murder what's left of his legacy by portrauing him as a hopless addict so we can sue that rich company, full of millions.".

It's not as if we didn't know who was feeding clueless Janet with "information". Get, now, who was her source? Randy was the one feeding clueless Jackson family with information totally made up by him, so he could line his pockets.

by looking at how things are shaping up ,i am 100% with u but some fans are really clueless and worshiping randy as a god.after that radar article ,i am really worried about mj3 specially blanket ,he is too small to understand .and to know the fact that this guy has easy access to mj3 makes me sick in my stomach.let just wait and see what positive is coming out.

twinklEE
12-10-2010, 12:27 AM
Randy Jackson is a convicted criminal

StacyJ
12-10-2010, 12:27 AM
I don't see how Oprah is good to use to clear MJ's name when she is one of the ones that took part in the lynching

Julia
12-10-2010, 12:30 AM
It's ridiculous. Michael indeed has the strangest family in those ways, if that was my son/brother/mum or any other relative I'd be coming down on them hard. Not discussing him with them. It's a huge betrayal Michael does not deserve. I don't know what part of that they don't seem to get. :(

I am going to agree with you on this Stacey I do not understand Michael's family at all and I am sorry but I cannot stand Oprah... I just can't!!

gerryevans
12-10-2010, 12:36 AM
If they want to clear up some untruths about MJ, Tom Mez should be there with Mrs. Jackson. He has the articulation and facts to sway. Mrs. J. is sweet, but she isn't a persuasive speaker.

LisaU123
12-10-2010, 12:40 AM
Don't go dogging Katherine!!

If she decides to do the show I respect her decision 100% and I support her getting out there and schooling the world...including Ms. Winfrey.

I know she is doing the right thing, I can't believe people are getting upset.
Katherine is no joke when it comes to her children.

You shouldn't be surprised. You've been around. This is how fans react to everything.