[WARNING] Intertainment Tonight interviews Thorson Liberace Ex. who claims affair with MJ

Yeah, I know he first mentioned MJ in 2004 in that National Enquirer article. I'm just afraid they might want to "update" the movie with this "new information" in order to somehow spice it up. But I hope they will be more classy than that.

And as a sidenote, to be honest I don't think the whole movie is respectful to even Liberace. As far as I read on Wikipedia he never came out as gay in his life, even though he likely was. But then why to make a movie on his gay relationship when he didn't come out himself? To be honest, Matt Damon and Michael Douglas or not, I find the whole project disrespectful. There seems to be such a zeal to "out" people these days. Can't we just respect the fact that everybody, even celebrities, have the right to a private life and to decide for themselves whether they want to be "out" or not?

I wholeheartedly agree. The whole issue of tell alls and biopics based on said tell als is pathetic and taudry. What happened to having respect and decency. I understand celebrity culture and the feeling wanting to know everything but it's getting out of control
 
I'm not sure they can portray or include anything about Michael in the movie because with the estate being so hands on with everything, legal action can be sought against the filmmakers and the company. They would be using his name, likeness, and intellectual property so if they did plan on slandering Michael and his reputation, Branca and McClain could go after them
 
On page 4 of this thread la_cienega posted this:
Kraft Foods Wants to hear from MJ fans-- They had NO idea - what Entertainment Tonight is doing to MJ- CALL NOW!!
Kraft foods ---Telephone: Attention: Consumer Relations Group 1-800-543-5335

I just spoke to a very nice woman at that number, which is Kraft Customer Relations, who had no idea what I was talking about. She did check with the marketing department and confirmed that Kraft runs adds on CBS during ET but she hadn't a clue about Scott Thorsen or the fact that MJ fans are outraged. She does now, and to her credit wanted details on who Thorsen is and what he is saying, but I have to ask la_cienega where you got the idea Kraft wanted to hear from fans?

This was a surprisingly positive experience - this woman asked me to slow down several times as she was actually typing what I was saying, wanted details, and when I said "dragging Michael's name thru' the mud for profit has to stop, it's enough!" she empathized and agreed. Same reaction to my mention of Sneddon's witch hunt in 2004 and Thorsen's National Enquirer story.


My main purpose in posting this is so other members are prepared if they call and the person at Kraft doesn't know what the issue is.
 
Last edited:
Someone on twitter posted that, so I copied and pasted it hoping people could respond if it was true. I'm glad they were nice about it. Maybe when they'd called they'd spoken to someone else at their company?

My worry is that Scott is going to be given a platform to speak about all of this because of this HBO movie, and so reviewers, editors, newspaper commentators, internet bloggers will be speaking about Thorson and Liberace, and I have no doubts many of them will bring MJ's name into it because of Thorson. Liberace isn't that interesting to people, but MJ always is.

On IMDB it has the movie listed for 2013:

Director:
Steven Soderbergh
Writer:
Richard LaGravenese (screenplay)
Stars:
Matt Damon and Michael Douglas
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1291580/

Michael Douglas has been mentioning it in interviews since 2011 I think, and it looks like it's going to be filmed this fall.
 
If Liberace never came out publicly then why is there even a movie coming out about this? This guy Thorson has been goin around for yrs talkin about Liberace in interviews and in a book without anyone knowing wether everything he is saying is the truth. Now he is doin the same to Michael. They show pics in that ET interview of MJ with both Liberace and Thorson as some type of credibilty for what he is saying. Even though there are thousands of pics of MJ with many celebs and other folks out there aswell. lol It's so ridiculous!
 
Last edited:
Thorson pretty much threw Liberace out of the closet with his palimony lawsuit against him in 1982.

Thorson said he met Liberace in 1977, and was kicked out in April 1982, Liberace said in court papers that it was because Thorson had threatened to kill him and his cocaine addiction made him unpredictable. In 1981 we know his cocaine addiction was really bad already because he was dealing with drug dealers involved in big time murders. So I'm not sure when this romance with MJ could've feasibly happened. MJ seemed to stay away from anyone into heavy drugs, I can't see him wanting to spend much time with a guy who was so off his face he was getting into all of this. He sued Liberace because he needed money for the drug habit and he wrote the book in 1987 because he needed money for the habit, he was arrested then and did a plea bargain over the Wonderland murders to get off, and then once released in 1990 he was shot five times because of being involved in a drug related armed robbery. Clearly a really messed up long time habit, I don't see how MJ could factor into anything.
 
WOW! Someone so jacked up shouldn't be allowed to talk mess about anyone and passed on like people who are credible! The media really love low lifes! Cause that's the only kind of people who would dare to say such ridiculous things to help their ratings!
 
The real ludicracy is that TV channels and shows would give a platform to a known liar to perpetuate their unsubstantiated lies. It's really not fair, since Michael is not even around to deny such statements. I'll mail a complaint to ET, and hope others will too.
 
What is also sad is that Liberace was a wonderful man with a brilliant talent, so I hope the movie is more about his art and they ask his friends for information to get the story of his life--maybe wishful thinking on my part.

The thing about people like Thorson is that they tie in pieces of the truth in their lies. For instance, it could be that Michael was with Thorson and Liberace at an event or the guest of someone; Michael borrowed people's jackets, so he could have tried on clothes when Thor was around; Michael could have been somewhere with Emanuel; Michael could have gone to the city exploring in the company of Thor. All these are innocent normal activities, but when you have someone say it in a simpering and sly way, plus add dirty looks, and purposely do not give the proper context you have a story that tabloids love. (We all remember the story about Blanket and drug that Muarry gave Michael)
 
I'm sure it's just a typo, but it was liberace's ex-bf mj was meant to have had a relationship with, not liberace! Now that would have been a headline the media would have loved.

Ok thanks for that, i thought it was liberace
 
Thorson pretty much threw Liberace out of the closet with his palimony lawsuit against him in 1982.

Thorson said he met Liberace in 1977, and was kicked out in April 1982, Liberace said in court papers that it was because Thorson had threatened to kill him and his cocaine addiction made him unpredictable. In 1981 we know his cocaine addiction was really bad already because he was dealing with drug dealers involved in big time murders. So I'm not sure when this romance with MJ could've feasibly happened. MJ seemed to stay away from anyone into heavy drugs, I can't see him wanting to spend much time with a guy who was so off his face he was getting into all of this. He sued Liberace because he needed money for the drug habit and he wrote the book in 1987 because he needed money for the habit, he was arrested then and did a plea bargain over the Wonderland murders to get off, and then once released in 1990 he was shot five times because of being involved in a drug related armed robbery. Clearly a really messed up long time habit, I don't see how MJ could factor into anything.

If he met Liberace in 1977 that means Thorson was 19 then, not 16. It seems like he also sensationalized his claims about Liberace claiming he was 16 and that he was a "child" when they met. This guy is a pathetic liar. Any self-respecting Hollywood movie maker should stay away from anything he claims!
 
:unsure:
kermit.gif
 
According to some of my FB friends this lying Liberace/Scott Thorson/MJ story has been regurgitated on Foxtel and the Arena cable networks today. I just got home from work a short time ago so. Any confirmation?
 
If he met Liberace in 1977 that means Thorson was 19 then, not 16. It seems like he also sensationalized his claims about Liberace claiming he was 16 and that he was a "child" when they met. This guy is a pathetic liar. Any self-respecting Hollywood movie maker should stay away from anything he claims!

Yup, he had to testify to all of that in his palimony lawsuit in the 80s, I guess he hopes people won't remember that. Seems he's rewriting everything in order to get more money.

His last conviction was for robbery and meth possession in 2008, meth addiction is one of the worst and he's been dealing with a cocaine addiction since the 70s, so this is a really long term messed up problem he has, sounds by all accounts (and looks) like he's still on them. If his last habits are anything to go by, all the money he's earned from his ET show has likely gone straight back into drugs.

The thing that disturbs me is that A) he's willing to rewrite history again for more money and B) and the worst of this - that the media are willing to give him a platform without questioning him. If he really did answer yes to that "improper aged 16" thing, that means ET wanted to make MJ sound like a serial child molester, without even bothering to check Scott's age. That is what's bothering me about all of this, that a big channel like ET was prepared to do that.
 
If he really did answer yes to that "improper aged 16" thing, that means ET wanted to make MJ sound like a serial child molester, without even bothering to check Scott's age. That is what's bothering me about all of this, that a big channel like ET was prepared to do that.

I have just come across this. Have you or anybody actually seen a snippet of the interviewer asking about the "improper aged 16" thing? Or was it written about on ET's website?Whichever case it is, the interviewer and ET should really be ashamed of themselves.Their stupidity should be highlighted by writting an email or letter of complaint to their boss.
 
@ la_cienega

Thanks for answering about the Kraft phone number.

I'd like to encourage everyone here to make use of these phone numbers and addresses. Passing contact info from fan to fan is helpful, but that alone does not get the message to those who need to hear it. I've tweeted, e-mailed and made that call and maybe it will make no difference in the end, but knowing I took some action is comforting in a way that venting is not.

"Evil happens when good men do nothing."

"....they who? It starts with us."
 
I have just come across this. Have you or anybody actually seen a snippet of the interviewer asking about the "improper aged 16" thing? Or was it written about on ET's website?Whichever case it is, the interviewer and ET should really be ashamed of themselves.Their stupidity should be highlighted by writting an email or letter of complaint to their boss.


I can't answer for La_cienega, but I have heard from several people that in the teaser it was suggested that Michael molested Thorson when Thorson was 16. Then fans stormed ET's Facebook - also with info about Thorson being even a bit older than Michael, so how could have Michael molested him? -, so I guess they eventually cut out those parts. But they left in the lie about a sexual relationship between them and when you look at it they toned it down just a little: at 1:17 Thorson claims he was 17...

Well, earlier he claimed he and Michael met in 1979. That would make them both 21. In his lawsuit against Liberace in the early 80s he claimed he and Liberace met in 1977, so then he would have been 19. So why does he keep implying he was 16-17 when this alleged "relationship" with Michael happened? We all know why and where the media are trying to go with that. Because make no mistake, Scott would not say any of these if he would not be paid for it.
 
This link will give you contact info for every network and cabel channel you could want; phone numbers, mailing address and e-mail.
http://www.parentstv.org/ptc/networks/main.asp


Of particular interest regarding this Scott Thorson project are CBS ( for ET) and HBO.

HBO ("contact us" is in bottom left corner) http://www.hbo.com/#/about/index.html

CBS ("contact" is in upper right. This will go over the heads of ET exec's)
http://www.cbscorporation.com/

Make your feelings known, you'll be glad you did!
 
I'd like to think the difference between the revelations in the teaser and the broadcast the next day was down to fans complaining - it gives us hope that our voice makes a difference. Dates and ages are so easy to check, so the quality of journalism is shocking. I thought ent tonight was an ok show, as it was the one mary hart anchored until she retired.

I too think it laughable they believe this meth head's account of a relationship with mj when he had suddenly changed his previous story and sold this newly remembered relationship to a notorious big paying tabloid at a time when he was financially destitute. Yet when lmp, who was married to mj, a multi-millionairess in her own right, claimed consistently down the yrs she had a sexual relationship with her husband, she's doubted - it's pathalogical the way they refuse to acknowledge mj was straight.
 
I'd like to think the difference between the revelations in the teaser and the broadcast the next day was down to fans complaining - it gives us hope that our voice makes a difference. Dates and ages are so easy to check, so the quality of journalism is shocking. I thought ent tonight was an ok show, as it was the one mary hart anchored until she retired.

I too think it laughable they believe this meth head's account of a relationship with mj when he had suddenly changed his previous story and sold this newly remembered relationship to a notorious big paying tabloid at a time when he was financially destitute. Yet when lmp, who was married to mj, a multi-millionairess in her own right, claimed consistently down the yrs she had a sexual relationship with her husband, she's doubted - it's pathalogical the way they refuse to acknowledge mj was straight.

It's maddening. In her latest Elle interview LMP says once again that she and MJ went on and off for 4 years after their divorce, yet they say that Lisa says the relationship was "real - at least for her." What fake relationship goes on for another 4 private years? What fake relationship involves Michael still speaking to her in 2005 even after she'd trashed him in the media? If that was some business deal, then MJ seriously screwed that one up.

I think they'd only believe her if she released some love letters perhaps, and we know MJ has love letters from her.

But yeah, we're up against so much. They're so quick to broadcast Fiddes and Scott, with nothing to back up their claims, when they both have a history of lying, when simple facts like times and dates can be checked out, when the autopsy report and other details from their accounts can easily be disproven, but not a single one of these places chose to investigate or question any of these stories before relaying them. Yet when it comes to LMP or other stories like that they're instantly dismissive and snarky and snide about their stories.

According to the ET thing it was a promo of an interview clip with the interviewer asking Scott "was Michael improper with you when you were 16?" and Scott saying, "Yes." If that exists then it's worrying because it means Scott was trying to sell this new account and of course, ET were buying it without question. Who else will he try it with? Who else won't we be able to fact check before it gets out? We're up against so much.

And if he wants to claim that MJ would bring Emmanuel Lewis around - Emmanuel only starred in the TV show Webster in 1983, which was how Michael befriended him. Scott was out of Liberace's life at this point because he'd been kicked out in April 1982, so how would Emmanuel have been around? Is there any evidence that MJ met Emmanuel before April 1982? I bet the original version was Janet being around because that was what the original co author says, but see how he changed it to make it more seedy. Emmanuel a young kid being in a room with MJ. Ugh. And Janet never speaks up to defend MJ.
 
at 1:17 Thorson claims he was 17...

.
Thank you.So in this segment when he talks about MJ, He actually says that he was 17 when they had an affair?I could find out but I do not want to watch a meth head.
 
^ Well i've just grimaced and watched the segment on the youtube posted upthread - he's one creepy dude and i didn't realise the whole segment was introduced as an expose on mj's love life when the info seemed like it had to be dragged out of thorson. Yes, he says he met michael when he was 17 but he looked a little uncertain when he said that - if he writes a book he would surely have to try and be more accurate about these things. He didn't give an age for when the 'affair' started.

I'm really confused now by that interview. He states at the beginning that mj was anti-drugs and 'on his back' about his, thorson's, cocaine habit. Then later he says he had long talks with mj about his drug addiction and his plastic surgery - meaning mj's addiction. God knows what he's suggesting now - mj was a drug addict whilst he knew him? - the interview was edited alot so i don't think it was particularly clear. The fact that thorson introduced that little anecdote in the 04 nat enq interview about boy porn on the nightstand, clearly to get higher payola as it was before the 05 trial, shows he's dangerously shameless in his opportunism. I think this is an instance where the family should say something, mj was closeted in his family at this time and they would have a good idea of any dealings mj had with liberace and his pal in the late 70s/early 80s.
 
Last edited:
I'm really confused now by that interview. He states at the beginning that mj was anti-drugs and 'on his back' about his, thorson's, cocaine habit. Then later he says he had long talks with mj about his drug addiction and his plastic surgery - meaning mj's addiction. God knows what he's suggesting now - the interview was edited alot so i don't think it was particularly clear. The fact that thorson introduced that little anecdote in the 04 nat enq interview about boy porn on the nightstand, clearly to get higher payola as it was before the 05 trial, shows he's dangerously shameless in his opportunism. I think this is an instance where the family should say something, mj was closeted in his family at this time and they would have a good idea of any dealings mj had with liberace and his pal in the late 70s/early 80s.

Yes, indeed he contradicts himself a lot. How could he talk to MJ about MJ's drug addiction and plastic surgery, when a) he didn't have a drug addiction then (in fact, Thorston himself says MJ was very anti-drugs), b) all the plastic surgery he had back then was one on his nose? Apparently coke messed up Thorson's head so much by now that he doesn't even realize if he contradicts something he said just a couple of sentences before. And it's pretty ironic when a cokehead like Thorson is trying to appear all concerned about someone else's "drug addiction". He also said something about how he dislikes the type of doctors who surrounded MJ. I guess, street drug dealers and mobsters are a lot better.

It's true that the whole thing is massively edited, so it could be that ET manipulated it too. One has to wonder why they needed that.
 
And if he wants to claim that MJ would bring Emmanuel Lewis around - Emmanuel only starred in the TV show Webster in 1983, which was how Michael befriended him. Scott was out of Liberace's life at this point because he'd been kicked out in April 1982, so how would Emmanuel have been around? Is there any evidence that MJ met Emmanuel before April 1982? I bet the original version was Janet being around because that was what the original co author says, but see how he changed it to make it more seedy. Emmanuel a young kid being in a room with MJ. Ugh. And Janet never speaks up to defend MJ.

To me it seemed the Emmanuel Lewis stuff was cut in from some older interview with Thorson. He looks much younger there. You got to wonder about ET's motives with that one. To me it's obvious that ET was trying to make innuendo about MJ being a child molester with all this. But it blew up in their face when they were called out by fans because of the teaser's inaccuracies, so they quickly changed that but they still wanted to imply something about molestation, and obviously to allege that MJ was gay. So they cut in a remark by Thorson about Emmanuel from an older interview and they left in his "I was 17" claim. Really sneaky stuff from ET!
 
respect77 said:
Yes, indeed he contradicts himself a lot. How could he talk to MJ about MJ's drug addiction and plastic surgery, when a) he didn't have a drug addiction then (in fact, Thorston himself says MJ was very anti-drugs), b) all the plastic surgery he had back then was one on his nose?

Yes, just had to listen to it again - he very clearly said he had many conversations with mj about his drug addiction and plastic surgery. Unless he's now suggestng he knew mj years after his relationship with liberace ended. Perhaps he, along with fiddes and raffles, spent most of the last 10 yrs of mj's life all together in some parallel universe taking turns to hold the umbrella. It all gets a bit much trying to make sense of such f**kery.
 
Thank you.So in this segment when he talks about MJ, He actually says that he was 17 when they had an affair?I could find out but I do not want to watch a meth head.

Actually it's not clear what Thorson is referring to when he says "I was 17". It's edited in a very sneaky way by ET. Directly before that there is an older footage of Thorson talking about Michael and Emmanuel Lewis and then they cut in this "I was 17" thing by the current Thorson, just very randomly, not showing in what context he said that and about whom or what.
 
respect77 said:
To me it seemed the Emmanuel Lewis stuff was cut in from some older interview with Thorson. He looks much younger there.

That emannuel lewis part of the interview was liberace talking not thorson, lol! They do look scarily alike.
 
That emannuel lewis part of the interview was liberace talking not thorson, lol! They do look scarily alike.

LOL okay, that makes sense then.

So MJ still knew Liberace while the palimony thing was going on, if Michael was afraid Scott had any info on him then I doubt he would have stayed in touch with Liberace after Scott came out, Scott was desperate and vindictive at this time, he sued The Globe and his own half brother, and MJ was at the top of his career with people saying he was gay, Scott could've come out and started against him too.
 
Back
Top