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Old 29-07-2010, 04:19 AM   #16
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7 doctors... We know that Klein, who are the rest? They could have given the names. I'd love to know the names.



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7 doctors... We know that Klein, who are the rest? They could have given the names.
Just saw it in another article:
During the course of their inquiry last summer, investigators asked—among others— rheumatologist Allan Metzger, dentist Mark Tadrissi, nurse Cherilyn Lee, dermatologist Arnold Klein, anesthesiologist Randy Rosen, and ear, nose and throat specialist David Slavit to turn over all of their records pertaining to the King of Pop.

source: http://au.eonline.com/uberblog/b1927...t_michael.html
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Old 29-07-2010, 04:29 AM   #18
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During the course of their inquiry last summer, investigators asked—among others— rheumatologist Allan Metzger, dentist Mark Tadrissi, nurse Cherilyn Lee, dermatologist Arnold Klein, anesthesiologist Randy Rosen, and ear, nose and throat specialist David Slavit to turn over all of their records pertaining to the King of Pop.

source: http://au.eonline.com/uberblog/b1927...t_michael.html
Thanks! I had not seen the E! Online.
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Old 29-07-2010, 05:17 AM   #19
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The media lies that MJ was getting pills from every freaking DR in CA and beyond. No doubt the media will sweep this news under the rug.

BRIAN OXMAN relentlessly pushing the JACKSONS agenda that MJ was a massive abuser of drugs.
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Old 29-07-2010, 05:37 AM   #20
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I think Arnold Klein is an evil man and he did contribute to Michael's death a lot. But I always knew it would be close to impossible to prove it, so I'm not surprised. But nobody escapes the punishment they deserve. If not in this world, then in the next.....

And I don't think Murray was the first and only to use things like Propofol on Michael, I really don't.
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Old 29-07-2010, 05:46 AM   #21
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I think Arnold Klein is an evil man and he did contribute to Michael's death a lot. But I always knew it would be close to impossible to prove it, so I'm not surprised. But nobody escapes the punishment they deserve. If not in this world, then in the next.....

And I don't think Murray was the first and only to use things like Propofol on Michael, I really don't.
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Old 29-07-2010, 05:48 AM   #22
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LOS ANGELES – State investigators probing the death of Michael Jackson have decided not to file charges against seven doctors who treated him, authorities said Wednesday.

The doctors were part of an investigation by state Attorney General Jerry Brown's Bureau of Narcotic Enforcement, spokeswoman Christine Gasparac said.

One doctor whose name was not released has been referred to the California Medical Board for prescribing drugs to a Jackson alias, she said.
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Los Angeles, California (CNN) -- A doctor who prescribed drugs to Michael Jackson using a fake name shortly before the singer's death could be disciplined by the California medical board, the state attorney general's office said.

None of the seven doctors and one nurse investigated by the state will face criminal prosecution, according to Christine Gasparac, a spokeswoman for Attorney General Jerry Brown.

ic Enforcement to investigate the prescription practices of seven doctors and a nurse, she said.
"After reviewing hundreds of pages of records and documents obtained from the medical practitioners, the attorney general's office has referred one doctor, who wrote prescriptions to an alias known to have been used by Jackson, to the California medical board for further review," she said.

Investigators did not find sufficient evidence to recommend criminal prosecution of any of the medical practitioners, she said.
according to the above parts there's not sufficient evidence that Michael is over prescribed or was prescribed a medicine he wasn't supposed to get for any condition he might had.

the only issue seems to be use of alias rather than his real name.

and Oxman please shut up.

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I think Arnold Klein is an evil man and he did contribute to Michael's death a lot. But I always knew it would be close to impossible to prove it, so I'm not surprised.
legally speaking and looking to the events: if even any doctor over prescribed or prescribed medicine that Michael wasn't supposed to get , they wouldn't be charged with IVM or murder as Michael died solely because of propofol given by Murray - not because of any other medicine given by any other doctor.

the only possible action against those doctors was to investigate them and if there was evidence to suspend or revoke their medical licences.
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BS To the doctors overprescribing, and to Oxman

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shut up Oxman. why couldn't they go for him instead of Peter Lopez. Oh right, he's HELPING Murray's defense.

And I see that reports are STILL saying that propofol ALONE killed him!!!! That is a straight up LIE!!! I even spoke to a med student, and he said that entire bottle of propofol doesn't even matter. It was the combination of propofol AND lorazepam that caused him to go into respiratory failure.

And I remember hearing that early on, but the media just sort of swayed to propofol, and only that.
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Media spread false stories that MJ was drug shopping every Doctor in CA & elswhere.
Michael wasnt & thats why they these Dr's are not being charged _ MJ was not a drug addict

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in the last years of his life was excessive and to fail to bring that to the public eye is ignoring reality."
BRIAN OXMAN reresenting Joe Jackson is upset over other Drs not being charged with suppplying drugs to MJ because Oxman was pushing agenda that MJ was a massive abuser of drugs to help shore up the civil suit against Murry AEG and others. The autopsy and this evidense here shows MJ was not drug shopping or abusing other drugs.

Oxman will use & taint MJs legacy and reputation with his drug addict agenda for their own $$$$$ gain.

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BS <_< To the doctors overprescribing, and to Oxman



shut up Oxman. why couldn't they go for him instead of Peter Lopez. Oh right, he's HELPING Murray's defense.

And I see that reports are STILL saying that propofol ALONE killed him!!!! That is a straight up LIE!!! I even spoke to a med student, and he said that entire bottle of propofol doesn't even matter. It was the combination of propofol AND lorazepam that caused him to go into respiratory failure.

And I remember hearing that early on, but the media just sort of swayed to propofol, and only that.
you're helping the rumor that a cocktail did kill MJ, and that would only help the drug addict theory. why would a 'med' student say that the propofol doesn't matter? what kind of med student was that? indeed, only misuse of propofol was the lethal thing here.
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you're helping the rumor that a cocktail did kill MJ, and that would only help the drug addict theory. why would a 'med' student say that the propofol doesn't matter? what kind of med student was that? indeed, only misuse of propofol was the lethal thing here.
Benzodiazepine effect was also mentioned in the coroner's report.

Just to clarify, I do not support a drug addict theory. and I agree with you that propofol was the main cause. But Murray gave Michael other drugs as well, and as far as I understood from the coroners' report, these drugs were also a factor somehow.
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you're helping the rumor that a cocktail did kill MJ, and that would only help the drug addict theory. why would a 'med' student say that the propofol doesn't matter? what kind of med student was that? indeed, only misuse of propofol was the lethal thing here.
The med student's own words..

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A combination of drugs killed Michael. That's what happened. And I remember an actual doctor coming on CNN and even saying that with his own lips. That the combination of drugs killed him.

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DR. JOSHUA PERPER, CHIEF MEDICAL EXAMINER, BROWARD COUNTY, FLORIDA: Well, what happened basically in this case, that the toxicology was very clear, and there was a multiplicity of the drugs which resulted in death.
Propofol alone did not cause him to go into respiratory failure and eventaullly stop breathing.

Yes, it was the main factor because so much was given. But even though so much was given, when that drug mixed with Lorazepam, THAT IS WHEN respiratory failure hit.

And I don't see how that would help the drug addict theory. I think it would only tarnish Murray's image and not Michael's. Michael didn't give those drugs to himself. This was the doctor injecting all those drugs into another person. With his medical knowledege, he chose to inject all those drugs.
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Benzodiazepine effect was also mentioned in the coroner's report.

Just to clarify, I do not support a drug addict theory. and I agree with you that propofol was the main cause. But Murray gave Michael other drugs as well, and as far as I understood from the coroners' report, these drugs were also a factor somehow.
Murray gave michael multiple benzodiazepines before the propofol. Benzodiazepines slow you breathing so even though Michael was wake the effects of the other drugs in his sytem were to taking place so when Murray administered the propofol it was the straw that broke the camel's back. If murray had the proper equipment he would have know michael's oxygen levels and he could have been warned when his breathing was decreasing and he would have been able to revive him once he went into cardiac arrest.
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the whole thing is clouded. nobody is giving a definitive thing here. even the coroner report doesn't define for sure, what was the 'straw the broke the camel's back.' but the misuse of propofol is clearly not disputed. misuse of other drugs is not at issue.
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but the misuse of propofol is clearly not disputed.
And Murray misused much more than just that.

These charges to him need to be bumped.
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