TIME......and travel - where would you go and when?

**Severus Snape** · 07-03-2012, 06:40 PM

Originally Posted by lucilla

wth

I figured that's worse revenge than going back in time and making it so that Russia completely nukes the place. That's letting them go easy, I think. They actually have to live with this one...and everyone knows Americans and math don't mix. They've resisted the metric system for ages now--this will be the biggest blow to their national pride since George W. Bush.

Oh, I also want to hang out with Sigmund Freud. :3

**Lucilla** · 08-03-2012, 12:01 AM

Originally Posted by Severus Snape

I figured that's worse revenge than going back in time and making it so that Russia completely nukes the place. That's letting them go easy, I think. They actually have to live with this one...and everyone knows Americans and math don't mix. They've resisted the metric system for ages now--this will be the biggest blow to their national pride since George W. Bush.

Oh, I also want to hang out with Sigmund Freud. :3

That was funny

In my case I'd like to hang Sigmund Freud, lol kidding

But I would like to be his elementary teacher to make him loooooovee and praise the scientific method since his tender years

**respect77** · 12-03-2012, 01:24 PM

Originally Posted by T.N.A.

I was always fascinated by time and the idea of time travel. I've read a bunch of theories about it and I remember when I was about 12 I 'came up' with my own theory...

Needles to say it was quite silly. But I have another theory about it. I'm sure it's inspired from other theories I've read about but in my mind, time isn't just this one single river flowing into one direction in which you can't travel backwards. The idea itself that once you go back in time you might 'screw up' everything with just about anything you do is kinda scary. Which is why in my mind, I imagine time itself as infinite, parallel identical rivers. Sort of like mirrors. Every river is identical and multiplied by infinity. What you see in river A is what you see in river B,C,D...Z.

Now, hypothetically speaking, by travelling in time you'd just jump to a random mirror river, in a specific time from it. Which essentially means that anything you do in that one, doesn't affect what happens in your original river. And to go back, you just apply the same logic and go to the date and time from which you initially left in any rondom river that was a mirror of the initial one. So nothing is screwed and you get to travel from river to river.

Now, I'm not a physicist or anything and while my made-up theory is probably inspired from others (though I can't point out exactly which) and as a whole it probably just pisses over the laws of physics.

Actually this is hypothesis exists in physics and is one possible explanation of reality! It's called the multiverse interpretation of quantum physics. Where does it meet with the concept of time travel?

There is nothing in physics that prohibits time travel, so in principle it's possible. Whether it will ever be possible in practice, that's another question. (Small time travels are already possible, for example at very high speeds - say at speeds spaceships go - there occur very small jumps to the future, but they are so small that they are virtually unnoticable for the crew of a spaceship. Also travel to the future is less problematic - you "only" have to travel fast enough (close to the speed of light) - than travel to the past. The latter is a bit more complicated but theoretically possible too.

In philosophy/physics there are paradoxes in connection with time travel. A typical one is the so called grandfather paradox: if I go back in time and kill my own grandfather as a baby, then I will never exist, thus I cannot go back in time and kill him. This leads to a paradox which lead some philosophists to the conclusion that travel to the past is probably not possible (though the laws of physics say it is). However there are solutions to these paradoxes. One is the multiverse interpretation of quantum physics. In short this says that we live in a multiverse that consists of an infinate number of universes, many similar to hours. Whenever a "decision is made" on a quantum level, the universe we are in multiplies into several ones, each universe representing an alternative history of events. For example in this universe I write this comment, however in some others I decided not to. In yet others I decided only to write one sentence etc. According to this interpretation the concept of time is like the one you have described with the infinite number of rivers. And when we travel back in time, we do not change the history of the universe where we started from, but we jump to another universe with a different history.

Here is a Wikipedia article about the Multiverse - or Many Worlds - Interpretation, explaining it better than I did: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Many-worlds_interpretation

Many-worlds implies that all possible alternative histories and futures are real, each representing an actual "world" (or "universe").

Prior to many-worlds, reality had always been viewed as a single unfolding history. Many-worlds, however, views reality as a many-branched tree, wherein every possible quantum outcome is realised.^[10] Many-worlds claims to reconcile the observation of non-deterministic events, such as the random radioactive decay, with the fully deterministic equations of quantum physics.

Time travel

The many-worlds interpretation could be one possible way to resolve the paradoxes ^[84] that one would expect to arise if time travel turns out to be permitted by physics (permitting closed timelike curves and thus violating causality). Entering the past would itself be a quantum event causing branching, and therefore the timeline accessed by the time traveller simply would be another timeline of many. In that sense, it would make the Novikov self-consistency principle unnecessary.

According to this interpretation every possible outcome of history (also on an individual level) DID actually happen somewhere in the multiverse. There are universes where Michael still lives, where he has never been accused etc. Everything that could have happened DID actually happen!

And as for songs about time. Two I have in mind are:

**T.N.A.** · 12-03-2012, 05:14 PM

^^Great post. I knew I read about such a theory, I just couldn't put my hand on it and name it.

**No-Body** · 10-04-2012, 12:00 AM

After i've proven to y'all how u can actually travel in time right here cause of my little edit occasioned by T.N.A. and our fascination with the doc who performs autopsies on alive people LOL....i can move on to some pictures i wanted to share. I gotta give credit where due and say that most of them i've found on a great pinterest page http://pinterest.com/awitcraft/

But before i do that i gotta thank respect77 for that brilliant post and the awesome music provided. Time waits for no one is one of my favorite Jacksons song, quite possibly THE favorite and Sign o' the times is a complete masterpiece, i've always loved it; was shocked i had forgotten about it in the context of the talk here.

We must live each day like it's the last, right? Can't remember exactly who the guy was who sang that one was? Could it be this 1 featured in this commercial here which we viewed courtesy of Pace?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNs41...lHEHi_kV40Cx8=

Can't believe i missed it before.

Yeah Mike sure, bring the future with a wacked out machine that looks straight outta mid 90s lol. I mean look at him, just look at him - so serious and stuff while that thang looks soooo ancient by today's standards. Put an Ipad next it or smth and that big box will evaporate outta shame, kinda like Mike did in the commercial. The spot itself is kinda cool and Michael doesn't look half bad in it, but still - that thingie....

Coming back to the pics and that line from Jam.....here is the perfect song for that message - gotta live like we're dying

And many of us waste our life away by being online and forgetting that real life most of the time begins where the computer/phone screens end.

So, get off Facebook http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UouP8cRYZ8 cause don't nobody have 10356578 'friends'

OR stop the addiction to computer games http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcA0y...eature=related cause real princes and princesses live not in virtual castles and ish, but in flats near you and the fake monsters in the game might be getting at your extremely real brain. The editing of the vid is too quick though cause it doesn't allow the viewer time to read all the important messages.

And now a little prophecy from my crystal ball....

Thankfully it's not the same the Keane guys see through cause then we would all be in trouble, startin' with urs truly http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKrFfp67NDQ

And i will now, more or less graciously, make my exit and live you with another question for the ages

I kinda have ideas about that but they are far from certainties; if real change, hopefully for the better, will actually take place that would be quite the improvement because that sayin' 'the more things change, the more they stay the same' couldn't be more true.

A few weeks ago i was thinking how similar things felt to four years ago, although there are other dimensions now. Back in the spring of 2008, same as now, in 2012 i was being disillusioned with several aspects of my life, i was missing Michael terribly (at that point we hadn't heard from him for quite some time and there wasn't any Hold my hand yet) and was absorbed by the U.S. Presidential election rooting for President Obama.

In many respects, things are the same, but now the feeling of missing Michael is much deeper for obvious reasons.

And btw of Mike, how was that line from the movie - we got four years to get it right? Sounds about right if you ask me lol.

The truth is i ain't got no crystal ball, so i don't know what the future really holds, but this much i do know.

This quote from Diana Scharf Hunt is one of my newest, most favorite sayings and i think it is full of truth and wisdom. If we don't put deadlines to our dreams, then we run the risk of wasting our lives away chasing illusions.