IJCSLY Single with "Don't Be Messin' Round" bonus track [Discussion]

[IMWhizzle]

Ive noticed the effect on Michael vocals after the bridge, and the weird leftovers when the beatboxing starts. Hollywood sounds nice, but you can hear the mistakes. The bass should have been recreated...not EQ'ed. And we should have got the demo.

Is the demo available on the net? I mean the full demo?

[Dean]

thanks for the news , great to here we in OZ are finally getting something unreleased.

[KingMikeJ]

I agree that Neff-U should have been the one to finish Hollywood Tonight. But don't agree that Teddy "destroyed" and "murdered" it. I look at Hollywood Tonight as a remix and I like it very much, it's my favourite song from the album.

Why are you happy with seeing an unreleased song as a remix? Surely you would rather see it as simple an unreleased song (whether that means it was left the way it was or finished by a producer). I think you describing HT as a remix shows that you know Teddy Riley completely changed the style/feel of the song and you are alright with that. Why?

[OnirMJ]

Why are you happy with seeing an unreleased song as a remix? Surely you would rather see it as simple an unreleased song (whether that means it was left the way it was or finished by a producer). I think you describing HT as a remix shows that you know Teddy Riley completely changed the style/feel of the song and you are alright with that. Why?

No, I'm not alright with that. I hate that he changed the meaning of the song by adding that spoken bridge. I don't mind that much that he changed the bass line. But I like the song, I think it is really good. Of course I would rather see original demo or Neff-U version. But those versions are unavailable to the most fans. But from those 10 songs that we got I think that HT is the best.

[Arklove]

-It features the kind of ominous strings that MJ used in several songs, in line with the dark message of the song, rather than the exuberant horns.
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I agree with your entire post...But this part in particular because of the strings...I absolutely love the strings in any of Michael's songs...They totally convey the message of the song...The dark drama that Teddy completely ignored and subsequently changed, along with the bridge, of course..It's these types of changes that disregard the artist Michael really was...

Billie Jean was completely danceable, but still had that dark edge....I think that's what he was going for with Hollywood Tonight, and Teddy either knew this and ignored it, or was just completely oblivious and just wanted to get his grubby hands on the song....Either way, the song turned out to be a bit of a mess....The tight production is just not there, so we can see the mastermind behind previous songs produced by MJ and Teddy

I do love Hollywood Tonight, but I get much more pleasure just by listening to a 20 sec demo in all its MJ rawness than a completed Teddy Riley project...

To me, there's nothing wrong with finishing off a song if there are only a few minors tweaks here and there....Keep the core of the song the way Michael left it though....ESPECIALLY if one is able to use a demo as a blueprint and keep all the magic MJ elements that Michael left....Realistically speaking, I know we're not going to get exactly what Michael intended....But keep it simple, keep it magic....I don't know why producers insist on changing it to their liking....

[maviefly]

June 1 2012 is now announced as release date for IJCSLY by Sony Music Germany

http://www.sonymusic.de/Michael-Jack.../B/88725414922

[respect77]

June 1 2012 is now announced as release date for IJCSLY by Sony Music Germany

http://www.sonymusic.de/Michael-Jack.../B/88725414922

So it will be the demo version of DBMA! Great.

[Korgnex]

June 1 2012 is now announced as release date for IJCSLY by Sony Music Germany

http://www.sonymusic.de/Michael-Jack.../B/88725414922

tracklist:

• I Just Can't Stop Loving You - 4:26
• Don't Be Messin' 'Round [Demo] - 4:25

[Mj4ever23]

Does anyone have a pre-order link of the German maxi-single CD?

[mehdiblanket]

So it's truth , 100% true about new song release ?

[bobmoo79]

tracklist:

• I Just Can't Stop Loving You - 4:26
• Don't Be Messin' 'Round [Demo] - 4:25

This might be an unpopular post but I have to say it.
I don't see the point of re-releasing the old version of IJCSLY when any fan and anybody who's bought one of the millions of greatest hits albums sold over past few years will already have it. What radio station will play it? Who are they trying to sell this too??
Also, while they might satisfy the hard core fanbase (such as us on MJJC) with the demo of DBMA, it is not going to entice casual fans or the general public to buy the single. They don't care about some unfinished recording, just like I don't care if a record company releases some demos by Queen or Elvis or Tupac. I would not buy a single from them if I already owned the song on a greatest hits, and the addition of a demo track would not make me buy it either. Similarly the single would not make me want to buy their album. The only thing to do that would be something new, something populer.
If a version of either song was released that would appeal to a wider audience like Elvis' "A little less conversation" then I would buy it. the original demo and original album versions could be included on the single if they record execs wanted to do it but they have to give people a reason to buy the track(s). So far there is no reason for me to buy the single, so I won't.
This single will not get radio play, won't get chart positions, and so will do nothing to promote the BAD25 album to the general public IMO.

[mj_brainiac]

So the single reissue is going to include DBMA and from the looks of the timing, the original version of I Just Can't Stop Loving You with the spoken intro? Great!

[mj_brainiac]

This might be an unpopular post but I have to say it.
I don't see the point of re-releasing the old version of IJCSLY when any fan and anybody who's bought one of the millions of greatest hits albums sold over past few years will already have it. What radio station will play it? Who are they trying to sell this too??
Also, while they might satisfy the hard core fanbase (such as us on MJJC) with the demo of DBMA, it is not going to entice casual fans or the general public to buy the single. They don't care about some unfinished recording, just like I don't care if a record company releases some demos by Queen or Elvis or Tupac. I would not buy a single from them if I already owned the song on a greatest hits, and the addition of a demo track would not make me buy it either. Similarly the single would not make me want to buy their album. The only thing to do that would be something new, something populer.
If a version of either song was released that would appeal to a wider audience like Elvis' "A little less conversation" then I would buy it. the original demo and original album versions could be included on the single if they record execs wanted to do it but they have to give people a reason to buy the track(s). So far there is no reason for me to buy the single, so I won't.
This single will not get radio play, won't get chart positions, and so will do nothing to promote the BAD25 album to the general public IMO.

Maybe they're not really aiming for the single to rechart. It could just as a promotional tool for fans and collectors

[respect77]

Maybe they're not really aiming for the single to rechart. It could just as a promotional tool for fans and collectors

Exactly. I think it's pretty clear that it's not meant for charts and the general public. It's simply a collectors item for hard core fans (hence the release on vinyl).

[maviefly]

Does anyone have a pre-order link of the German maxi-single CD?

http://www.amazon.de/Just-Cant-Stop-...rhf_gw_p_img_1