The mindset that led to DVD only release of Bad Tour DVD

[lotrmj]

That's crazy... and nowadays everybody has got a pocket HD camera but we have almost nothing magical to record

[CaptainEoLove85]

Only read some of the article, but I got the gist of it. It's a very sad situation.

[mj_forever]

The historically largest and oldest companies, Sony's CBS/Columbia and BMG's RCA/Victor, founded in 1908 and 1901, have huge cornerstone collections as well as later acquisitions--and have the largest and most complete storage vaults of all the majors. BMG has an estimated 1.3 million items (tapes, acetates, metal parts); Sony, more than 600,000, according to sources.

Both have held onto the majority of their catalogue holdings because of their sheer bulk. Sony's main vault is now in a state-of-the-art Iron Mountain storage facility in upstate New York; BMG's is in a similar underground facility near Slippery Rock in Western Pennsylvania.

Both companies have given over sizable budgets to complete their computer-smart vault programs.

In addition to the size and age of their core inventory, the holdings in two companies' vaults have been fairly intact because no buyout deals over the decades have resulted in their vaults being moved around and haphazardly stored--thus more vulnerable to attrition--although they face the same problems as younger companies with their acquired labels. Buyouts and catalogue moves have become the achilles heel of all companies, but especially smaller companies.

thanks for the informative article. i have yet to go back to the rest of it, but at least this part is heartening. i also wonder if Michael played an active role in making sure everything of his' was preserved, and if he had copies, maybe not exactly of the masters which are still to revert to the Estate, but of everything else, the works-in-progress, etc. are artists allowed to do that?

found this on ebay, and it's selling for $50,000! this is relatively new, and is not likely a product of space-economizing. so if it's genuine, where could it have come from?

MICHAEL JACKSON "HIStory" ultra rare acetate (1994 studio CDr) INCLUDING "Smile"

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MICHAEL-JACK...item3a74359728

[BADTourDB]

thanks for the informative article. i have yet to go back to the rest of it, but at least this part is heartening. i also wonder if Michael played an active role in making sure everything of his' was preserved, and if he had copies, maybe not exactly of the masters which are still to revert to the Estate, but of everything else, the works-in-progress, etc. are artists allowed to do that?

found this on ebay, and it's selling for $50,000! this is relatively new, and is not likely a product of space-economizing. so if it's genuine, where could it have come from?

MICHAEL JACKSON "HIStory" ultra rare acetate (1994 studio CDr) INCLUDING "Smile"

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MICHAEL-JACK...item3a74359728

man that acetate has been on ebay for months, it first started off as like 10,000
then it got relisted as 50,000 and has been relisted at that price numerous times for like half a year now.

[mj_forever]

man that acetate has been on ebay for months, it first started off as like 10,000
then it got relisted as 50,000 and has been relisted at that price numerous times for like half a year now.

thanks for info. what i meant by 'new' is that it's a 1994 product, by which time Sony was likely to have already been spending huge amounts for storage and preservation. this couldn't have been merely thrown out to save space.

[BADTourDB]

thanks for info. what i meant by 'new' is that it's a 1994 product, by which time Sony was likely to have already been spending huge amounts for storage and preservation. this couldn't have been merely thrown out to save space.

contact MJJC member Korgnex, a bird's whistle leads me to believe he may know some information about it, and possibly is the person selling it.

[mj_forever]

thank you i am really interested in how MJ stuff gets out of the Sony vaults and into the hands of ebay sellers. if anyone reading has info, i would appreciate you enlightening me.

[Hess]

So sad...

BUT - it also gives hope. - Maybe some day a lot of MJ masters etc. will be found and released!

[mj_brainiac]

So sad...

BUT - it also gives hope. - Maybe some day a lot of MJ masters etc. will be found and released!

I don't think the article even relates to Michael's work. Michael had his footage and recordings stored and archived and in the Estate's statement, they said the high quality film masters to the July 16 are at the most, simply misplaced or put in a different area (that's how I read it). Nothing is lost and as they said, they had tapes of other shows, but being the audio on those shows weren't exactly how they wanted them to be and Wembley being their first choice, they went with the VHS tape and the high quality multitracks they have of the show

[charismatic]

I don't think the article even relates to Michael's work. Michael had his footage and recordings stored and archived and in the Estate's statement, they said the high quality film masters to the July 16 are at the most, simply misplaced or put in a different area (that's how I read it). Nothing is lost and as they said, they had tapes of other shows, but being the audio on those shows weren't exactly how they wanted them to be and Wembley being their first choice, they went with the VHS tape and the high quality multitracks they have of the show

The Estate made no mention of film masters.