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    Default Re: [Discussion] Sexual abuse claims against MJ Estate (Robson/ Safechuck/ Doe)

    Quote Originally Posted by KOPV View Post
    I'll just say this, it is not difficult to have a therapist state you are emotionally unstable.. Going to a therapist alone at the very least hints to 'issues', thus you tell a therapist what you feel and mention reactions you have to those feelings.. sh** any of us can be 'unstable' we're humans with emotions..

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    Default Re: [Discussion] Sexual abuse claims against MJ Estate (Robson/ Safechuck/ Doe)

    I'm literally disgusted by the made up stories. I wonder how much she is getting paid to make up these things?

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    Default Re: [Discussion] Sexual abuse claims against MJ Estate (Robson/ Safechuck/ Doe)

    I do think Wade has sociopathic tendencies. He comes across in his depositions and interviews as detached and emotionless and I don't doubt for a minute that he could fool a therapist. Especially if said therapist was only too willing to accept it as truth. By the nature of their work some are only too willing to see what they expect to see.

    I do think the pressure to succeed and be great was put on by Joy. Michael I think encouraged him because that's what Wade wanted, but I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't see some of Joe in Joy's approach to her son. She had him on a tight schedule at a very young age and was pushing him to be a success. He was a choreographer by 14 or so I believe. That's very young. I don't doubt that MJ did see some of himself in Wade. Unfortunately Wade didn't have MJ's personality and heart.
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    Default Re: [Discussion] Sexual abuse claims against MJ Estate (Robson/ Safechuck/ Doe)

    Quote Originally Posted by Doggone View Post
    I'm literally disgusted by the made up stories. I wonder how much she is getting paid to make up these things?
    Many people made up stories about Mj. Who are you talking about? Joy?


    Does anyone think that the companies should sue Robson/SAfechuck for defamation?
    The evidence against them is so overwhelming and winning against them in court could help clear MJ's name.
    The Estate could expose Gutierrez's role in creating Safechuck's and Francia's and Chandler's bogus stories too.

    But of course there's the chance that they would get rabid haters on the jury and the media
    would use it to drag MJ of course.

    I would hate to see these cases end with headlines that they were dismissed due to statute of limitations.
    Robson/Safechuck should be punished for all their lies.


    What do you think? Would be it good or bad if the companies sued?
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    Default Re: [Discussion] Sexual abuse claims against MJ Estate (Robson/ Safechuck/ Doe)

    It's crazy how many allegations against MJ have brought up and brought to light with such 'legitimacy' (as in taken seriously and reported publically) without ANY ANY ANY DNA evidence through multiple decades, multiple raids, millions spent.. No substantial evidence, just word...
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    Default Re: [Discussion] Sexual abuse claims against MJ Estate (Robson/ Safechuck/ Doe)

    Quote Originally Posted by KOPV View Post
    It's crazy how many allegations against MJ have brought up and brought to light with such 'legitimacy' (as in taken seriously and reported publically) without ANY ANY ANY DNA evidence through multiple decades, multiple raids, millions spent.. No substantial evidence, just word...
    Not only that but there is not a single document or recorded comment, interview, phone call where MJ ever expressed attraction toward
    boys. If you listen to Sandusky when Bob costa asked him whether he was sexually attracted to young boys he didn't give a straight answer.
    How difficult is that question for someone who is NOT attracted to boys?
    Everyone but a pedo would have replied hell no, of course not absolutely not something like that.

    Now compare that to when MJ was asked did you ever sexually engage with this or any other boy?
    MJ said I'm not even interested in that. And it was nuts.

    Clearly the whole idea was so beyond absurd to him, not only because he would not violate anyone but because
    he was absolutely not attracted to males of any age.

    Serial boy molesters however are obsessed with being attracted to boys, it's on their mind all the time
    and no way someone as scrutinized as MJ was would have exposed his true feelings in a lyrics, note, letter,
    email, phone call, book. But all we have is totally innocent phone calls with Ryan White and Megan Stein
    and a phone call where MJ is talking about loving women. Notes where he expressed attraction toward Lisa
    lyrics where he is singing about loving women.

    There is simply nothing in his history which shows he had boys on his mind.
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    Default Re: [Discussion] Sexual abuse claims against MJ Estate (Robson/ Safechuck/ Doe)

    See how a lie can spread so fast you can't even get the truth out so sad but this is the world we live in. From day one this case has been about nothing but lies stories on top of stories and now we see what Wade has really been doing he still continue to lie Now look like Joy knew what was going on and did nothinh. How can you say postive things about a person and then watch as your son try to destroy this person a person who have help your family. Michael was just to kind heart and he couldn't say no



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    Default Re: [Discussion] Sexual abuse claims against MJ Estate (Robson/ Safechuck/ Doe)

    Robson filed his opposition to the Motion to Compel.

    01/20/2017 Opposition (TO MTN TO COMPEL ) Filed by Attorney for Plaintiff

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    Quote Originally Posted by respect77 View Post
    Robson filed his opposition to the Motion to Compel.

    01/20/2017 Opposition (TO MTN TO COMPEL ) Filed by Attorney for Plaintiff
    Do you plan to get this document?

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    Default Re: [Discussion] Sexual abuse claims against MJ Estate (Robson/ Safechuck/ Doe)

    Quote Originally Posted by redfrog View Post
    Do you plan to get this document?
    I'm waiting to see if Finaldi will do a press release with document attached. They love that and we never needed to get their documents due to that. If not, we might or we can just wait for the hearing which is only a few weeks ahead.
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    That true.



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