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    Default Re: [Discussion] Sexual abuse claims against MJ Estate (Robson/ Safechuck/ Doe)

    Thanks for the info, I wasn't aware of the extent of the allegations against Cliff. The media's behaviour toward MJ is even more questionnable then.
    MJ was never charged as a result of the '93 allegations, nor any other allegation until '03. Yet the media treated him as guilty, while cliff seemed to be instantly forgiven and allowed to go on with his life and career in peace.
    The main difference between the MJ and Cliff allegations is the settlement MJ paid. Why a civil settlement was twisted by the media to be 'proof' of guilt is beyond me.

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    Default Re: [Discussion] Sexual abuse claims against MJ Estate (Robson/ Safechuck/ Doe)

    Basically, that’s one of the only elements (“evidence” as they called it) that might be used against him.

    Even though a settlement out of court is not an evidence of guilt in itself.

    By the way, in civil cases, the notions of guilt or innocence do not exist; these are notions of criminal law.

    In civil cases, there is the notion of liability ; In a civil trial, if an individual is civilly responsible for any damage, this individual should pay damages to the plaintiff.

    Regarding settlements out of court, it is a legal solution only possible in civil cases.
    The two parties, the plaintiff and the defendant, AGREE to settle the civil case for reasons that differs, regarding the cases : professional or personal reasons.

    Not only there is nothing illegal in it, but also you cannot judge the guilt or innocence of someone based only on it : because you simply don’t know what happened; no argument from any party was challenged in court.

    Also, regarding the Chandler case, there was a clause in the settlement document that stipulated any criminal lawsuit could still be filed.

    As we know, Evan Chandler never filed any criminal lawsuit against MJ. The only one he filed was another civil one, in 1995, because of the HIStory album.

    “Strangely”, nobody in the media asked why the plaintiff, Evan Chandler, filed a civil lawsuit against MJ in the first place, instead of a criminal one. Nor why the plaintiff didn’t file a criminal lawsuit against the defendant when he still had the occasion to do so (1995), whether there is a settlement or not.

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    Default Re: [Discussion] Sexual abuse claims against MJ Estate (Robson/ Safechuck/ Doe)

    I don't know what the status of MJ's nephews lawsuit against Radaronline is, but Terry Crews just posted about how they threatened him with a made up story about him using prostitutes after he brought up his allegations of assault:

    https://twitter.com/terrycrews/statu...69292103786496

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    Default Re: [Discussion] Sexual abuse claims against MJ Estate (Robson/ Safechuck/ Doe)

    Quote Originally Posted by Miel View Post
    Basically, that’s one of the only elements (“evidence” as they called it) that might be used against him.

    Even though a settlement out of court is not an evidence of guilt in itself.

    By the way, in civil cases, the notions of guilt or innocence do not exist; these are notions of criminal law.

    In civil cases, there is the notion of liability ; In a civil trial, if an individual is civilly responsible for any damage, this individual should pay damages to the plaintiff.

    Regarding settlements out of court, it is a legal solution only possible in civil cases.
    The two parties, the plaintiff and the defendant, AGREE to settle the civil case for reasons that differs, regarding the cases : professional or personal reasons.

    Not only there is nothing illegal in it, but also you cannot judge the guilt or innocence of someone based only on it : because you simply don’t know what happened; no argument from any party was challenged in court.

    Also, regarding the Chandler case, there was a clause in the settlement document that stipulated any criminal lawsuit could still be filed.

    As we know, Evan Chandler never filed any criminal lawsuit against MJ. The only one he filed was another civil one, in 1995, because of the HIStory album.

    “Strangely”, nobody in the media asked why the plaintiff, Evan Chandler, filed a civil lawsuit against MJ in the first place, instead of a criminal one. Nor why the plaintiff didn’t file a criminal lawsuit against the defendant when he still had the occasion to do so (1995), whether there is a settlement or not.
    I didn't even know he did that (although I'm not surprised). Anyone who knows this case should understand, it was all about $ and extortion. The Chandler audio tape basically spells it out. IMO other powerful, shady figures had a hand in attempting to slander MJs name. Karma is real, especially in Evans case...

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    Default Re: [Discussion] Sexual abuse claims against MJ Estate (Robson/ Safechuck/ Doe)

    Quote Originally Posted by la_cienega View Post
    I don't know what the status of MJ's nephews lawsuit against Radaronline is, but Terry Crews just posted about how they threatened him with a made up story about him using prostitutes after he brought up his allegations of assault:

    https://twitter.com/terrycrews/statu...69292103786496
    It`s dismissed on request from 3T without prejudice. Probably 3T got some money.

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