Lawyer Asks Michael Jackson Estate To Pay $37K Legal Bill For Dealing With Paris’ Suicide Bid

[Vici]

Lawyers representing the son of Tito Jackson have asked the Los Angeles Superior Court to approve close to $40,000 in legal fees as a result of Paris Jackson‘s attempted suicide bid earlier this year.

In court documents filed this week and obtained by RadarOnline.com, TJ Jackson’s attorney, Charles A. Shultz, said he was owed $39,607.50 for his services from October 2012 to today — at an hourly rate of $450.

TJ, 34, is a co-guardian of Prince, 16; Paris, 16; and Prince Michael II, 10, who’s also known as Blanket.

“In such capacity, both TJ and I, as his counsel, have had to address issues regarding security, petitions by various parties claiming to be the biological mothers of (the children) and most recently issues regarding Paris, the details of which are well known to the court,” Shultx wrote in the filing.

“Over the last year, the most time consuming issues related to Paris-Michael Katherine Jackson and events that occurred during the summer month, which the court is fully aware of.

“Time was spent addressing personal and medical issues, addressing court investigation and court inquiries, assisting with treatment options, including choosing treating physician and plan of action, meeting guardians, attorneys and physicians.”

The teenager has been under counsellors care at an undisclosed boarding school since June when she guzzled a bottle of pills and cut her wrists in a failed — but not first — suicide attempt.

Schultz said the 15-year-old’s suicide bid engulfed 43.3 hours of his time.

In the filing, he also documented the work he did to address the guardianship petitions filed by Billie Jean Jackson and Helena Kuta, the latter who sought to compel the children to undergo DNA testing.

“Responding to that Petition required researching rights to privacy and DNA testing,” he said.

He also spent time addressing ”household staffing issues, nanny issues, security guard issues, issues regarding requests from school for Paris and Prince, lease issues for house… issues regarding security and staffing.”

If you, or anyone you know, is struggling with thoughts of suicide, please immediately seek help — you can speak with a skilled, trained counselor at a national Suicide Prevention Lifeline crisis center in your area, anytime 24/7 — call 1-800-273-TALK (8255).

http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2...kson-estate-pay-legal-bill-paris-suicide-bid/

 

[Ashtanga]

 

[Bubs]

and next Katherine's lawyers are seeking money from the estate for same reasons.
Perry Sanders and the Ribeira ask 50 thousands each for doing some background work and searching suitable place for Paris etc.


"He also spent time addressing ”household staffing issues, nanny issues, security guard issues, issues regarding requests from school for Paris and Prince, lease issues for house… issues regarding security and staffing.”

I thought those were TJ's duties as he gets paid 9 thousand per month.

What lease issues for house, and whose house, kids Calabasas house or TJ's?
Why would he need to do anything about Calabasas as it is the estate who takes care of it with KJ?
If it is about TJ's own house, his lawyer should send a bill to TJ, not the estate.

 

[Mneme]

Lawyers representing the son of Tito Jackson have asked the Los Angeles Superior Court...

Why would he need to do anything about Calabasas as it is the estate who takes care of it with KJ?
If it is about TJ's own house, his lawyer should send a bill to TJ, not the estate.

Is that a new sort of "Branca disdain"?
This TJ-lawyer with his bill goes to court directly whereas the correctly way is: Bill --> Administrator Branca --> Branca will pay or Branca goes to court with the bill.
Isn't it?

I hope the judge (Beckloff?) will tell this lawyer shultz what is the correctly way.
And I hope also that Mr. Branca with this bill will take a very exactly checking.

 

[elusive moonwalker]

Get tj to pay it.

 

[TheChosenOne]

My first reaction - ah, yet another knocking on the door of the Bank of Michael Jackson! But maybe I need to think on this some more.

 

[justnat]

Well, the hourly rate looks reasonable for a lawyer. The issues that lawyer dealt with are directly related to children. The time billed for a one year period seems reasonable.
I see the logic of requesting Estate to pay this one.

 

[TheChosenOne]

^^ I was thinking the same thing. I did not want to just go with my knee-jerk reaction when it comes to the Jacksons and Michael's money.

 

[qbee]

Everyone requesting payment for their work is not a crook. This looks like a valid claim. (the work is legal work he did regarding the children and running of the household ) The Estate will require proof and most likely pay it. They may negotiate the rate.

 

[soulmum]

Seems fair to me.

 

[Aquarius]

In the filing, he also documented the work he did to address the guardianship petitions filed by Billie Jean Jackson and Helena Kuta, the latter who sought to compel the children to undergo DNA testing.

I thought the estate was taking care of that. I don't understand why this legal fees have to be public. I think TJ had to tell the estate he needed to hire a lawyer and the estate had to approve it, right?

So many claims about money. It seems unreal. That can drive anyone crazy.

 

[Bubs]

In the filing, he also documented the work he did to address the guardianship petitions filed by Billie Jean Jackson and Helena Kuta, the latter who sought to compel the children to undergo DNA testing.

I thought the estate was taking care of that. I don't understand why this legal fees have to be public. I think TJ had to tell the estate he needed to hire a lawyer and the estate had to approve it, right?

So many claims about money. It seems unreal. That can drive anyone crazy.

The estate had an attorney already taking care of these Billie Jeans, so why would TJ's attorney had to do anything about it?
TJ hired this lawyer when he sought PPB's guardianship, so whenever TJ needs attorney's advice regarding PPB, that attorney sends a bill to the estate.
It's a good thing that before the bills are accepted, PPB's GAL will check them over before judge approves or disapproves. KJ and her attorneys tried to scam money out of the estate, but kids GAL didn't approve their scam

 

[elusive moonwalker]

Seems the family want mj to pay for everything. getting paid to be a guardian getting mj to pay for t.js lawyer. kinda like making mj pay fir their funeral outfits. do any of them pay for anything themselves

 

[Aquarius]

The estate had an attorney already taking care of these Billie Jeans, so why would TJ's attorney had to do anything about it?
TJ hired this lawyer when he sought PPB's guardianship, so whenever TJ needs attorney's advice regarding PPB, that attorney sends a bill to the estate.
It's a good thing that before the bills are accepted, PPB's GAL will check them over before judge approves or disapproves. KJ and her attorneys tried to scam money out of the estate, but kids GAL didn't approve their scam

Yes, I don't understand why TJ had to hire a lawyer to deal with issues about maternity. I've always thought the estate was dealing with that.

I'm confuse because I thought he had to deal with the house & the kids issues in terms of making daily decisions I've always thought the estate will have someone to deal with legal matters. However while I don't trust the Jacksons, I can not believe TJ just went & hired this attorney without the estate's approval. Really it's very confusing to me. What does TJ has to do with the leasing of the house? Will see how this ends.

 

[Aquarius]

Seems the family want mj to pay for everything. getting paid to be a guardian getting mj to pay for t.js lawyer. kinda like making mj pay fir their funeral outfits. do any of them pay for anything themselves

That's because they think Michael owes them something when in reality is the other way around. Michael was and still is their money tree.

 

[Bubs]

Yes, I don't understand why TJ had to hire a lawyer to deal with issues about maternity. I've always thought the estate was dealing with that.

I'm confuse because I thought he had to deal with the house & the kids issues in terms of making daily decisions I've always thought the estate will have someone to deal with legal matters. However while I don't trust the Jacksons, I can not believe TJ just went & hired this attorney without the estate's approval. Really it's very confusing to me. What does TJ has to do with the leasing of the house? Will see how this ends.

TJ hired that lawyer when he went for getting guardianship of kids when Randy granny-napped KJ. TJ didn't have to ask estate executors permission for hiring lawyer, and this same lawyer has been working for TJ ever since and assisting TJ with various matters.

I too wonder why TJ lawyer has anything to do with any of Billie Jeans, estate lawyer (Weitzman) is taking care of those women.

 

[qbee]

The children needed an attorney to personally represent them as the Estate doesn't represent the children. That is why there is another attorney. He was working and meeting with the Estate over some of these issues. For instance, DNA was requested from the children. Someone wanted custody of the children. The Estate can't deny DNA for the children an attorney representing them has to do that. The estate represent Michael and themselves. The Jackson and PPB need their own attorney to personally represent them and their household. I hope that helps explain it a little better.

 

[Bubs]

The children needed an attorney to personally represent them as the Estate doesn't represent the children. That is why there is another attorney. He was working and meeting with the Estate over some of these issues. For instance, DNA was requested from the children. Someone wanted custody of the children. The Estate can't deny DNA for the children an attorney representing them has to do that. The estate represent Michael and themselves. The Jackson and PPB need their own attorney to personally represent them and their household. I hope that helps explain it a little better.

Charles Shultz is not PPB's attorney, he is TJ's attorney, and he is assisting TJ with kids matters, I think?
Kids have their GAL who is looking after kids benefit in estate matters, but I think Weitzman was the one who dealt with other Billie Jeans previous 3 years (or Ribeira, KJ's other lawyer as her name is in kids case)) There has been a long list of Billie Jeans wanting DNA testing and I think most of them are solved by now:
CRUISE CLAIRE ELISABETH
JACKSON BILLIE JEAN
JASINSKA HALINA
LEROUX CHRISTINA
JACKSON MOCIENNE PETIT
JACKSON NONA PARIS LOLA ANKHESENAMUN

There is a few names for starters
The estate (Weitzman) has dealt with DNA issues before without "help" from TJ's attorney, remember Prince Michael Malachi Jet Jackson

 

[Mneme]

Charles Shultz is not PPB's attorney, he is TJ's attorney, and he is assisting TJ with kids matters, I think?
Kids have their GAL who is looking after kids benefit in estate matters, but I think Weitzman was the one who dealt with other Billie Jeans previous 3 years (or Ribeira, KJ's other lawyer as her name is in kids case)) There has been a long list of Billie Jeans wanting DNA testing and I think most of them are solved by now: -...-;

The estate (Weitzman) has dealt with DNA issues before without "help" from TJ's attorney, remember Prince Michael Malachi Jet Jackson

To make himself unassailabe should have the co-gardener TJ asked Margaret Loudise for a neutral lawyer.
In my opinion only this would be a clear and accurate delimitation between his own law issues and the law issues from PPB.
With that he would avoid the smallest suspicion about confusion in relation to bills: TJ has his lawyer Shultz and Michaels kids have their own layer X.

I don't know the fee rates for lawyers in US. But 37,000 for PPB issues seems very high for me.
To high only for a few letters.
But maybe for a "right Jackson" it is only a 'good lawyer' who takes 500 Dollar for a hour. (?)

 

[AliCat]

TJ Jackson does share custody of Prince, Paris and Blanket Jackson with Katherine Jackson.

It makes sense that his lawyer would be payed, because of issues with TJ's guardianship of Prince, Paris and Blanket Jackson.

 

[Mneme]

TJ Jackson does share custody of Prince, Paris and Blanket Jackson with Katherine Jackson.

It makes sense that his lawyer would be payed, because of issues with TJ's guardianship of Prince, Paris and Blanket Jackson.

/Alicat:
What sense does it make?
What problems does TJ have in connection with his guardianship for PPB? Do you have an example for me?
Do you mean the costs for his appointment to a co-guardianer? Wasn't it TJ himself who wished to be that?
How a poor and mean sight is that if he then the cost for that let pay from PPB.

(how ever: all only imo)

 

[Bubs]

To make himself unassailabe should have the co-gardener TJ asked Margaret Loudise for a neutral lawyer.
In my opinion only this would be a clear and accurate delimitation between his own law issues and the law issues from PPB.
With that he would avoid the smallest suspicion about confusion in relation to bills: TJ has his lawyer Shultz and Michaels kids have their own layer X.

I don't know the fee rates for lawyers in US. But 37,000 for PPB issues seems very high for me.
To high only for a few letters.
But maybe for a "right Jackson" it is only a 'good lawyer' who takes 500 Dollar for a hour. (?)

I agree with you that kids ahould have their own lawyer, independed from any parties that is totally on their side, although I read some articles from around granny-napping time and seemingly Margaret Lodise will step in at any matter if needed. Kids went to their GAL when KJ was playing Uno and she said if KJ doesn't show up, she'll go to court and sort out kids situation (my words, not hers
Story here:
http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2012/07/michael-jackson-kids-met-court-appointed-attorney/

About the rates, kids GAL is charging the following:
1. JTD GAL fees 72,326.50 (116.9 hrs @ 585 - 625/hr)

TJ's lawyer $450/hour

I assume that before TJ was granted guardianship, KJ's lawyers were taking care of the same issues as TJ attorney now is claming money from, so what KJ's attorney are doing? In the second accounting, she asked the estate to give additional $ 34,700/month to pay her accountant and her lawyers etc?

 

[twinklEE]

Katherine seriously needs to sit her greedy ass down somewhere. I wish the estate wouldn't pay shit and let her drown in her debt. Then I'd see which one of her 'cubs' would be willing to fork over the lawyer fees. This woman and her actions have caused tens of millions of dollars since Michael's death alone, and hundreds of millions of dollars throughout his lifetime, all this and she is still UNGRATEFUL. How the heck can you still not have enough?! How the can you still be ungrateful?! How the heck can you still bite the hand that feeds you?! How the heck do you continue to throw your dead son under the bus when it's his dead body that's keeping you afloat?!!

 

[Aquarius]

Even when the Jacksons are creating some of these legal fees, in a way, I'm happy that all that money is not going into their pockets. They're creating such a mess that is costing millions to the estate. Just hope the kids end up with a big chunk of money, after all it is their money, their father left it for them & they deserve to get it all.

 

[Petrarose]

What is going on here. A child has 2 guardians, and the issues relating to her care are delegated to the guardians' attorneys. Why isn't it the job of Katherine or TJ to look for facilities, etc. for the child. Is this some way in which Katherine and TJ get attorneys so that they can help them make more money off the estate? This is a disgrace that the jobs that paid guardians have to do are shifted to their attorneys and then the estate is billed hundreds of thousands.

Also, who told him to deal with the crazy cases about paternity?

Bubs I am with you on this one.

All I am getting from those claims is that duties that should be handled by guardians are shifted to attorneys who then charge the estate. So, what are the guardians for? I would like to see if TJ really paid money to his attorney. During the kidnapping, the attorney clocked in several hours going to court & talking to TJ, so how much did TJ pay out of his own money? How about the times when Katherine's lawyer and TJ's lawyer made comments to the press about Paris or the case, did they add those times into the bill as well?

My only relief is that the estate has good lawyers who will look at these costs carefully.

 

[twinklEE]

What is going on here. A child has 2 guardians, and the issues relating to her care are delegated to the guardians' attorneys. Why isn't it the job of Katherine or TJ to look for facilities, etc. for the child. Is this some way in which Katherine and TJ get attorneys so that they can help them make more money off the estate? This is a disgrace that the jobs that paid guardians have to do are shifted to their attorneys and then the estate is billed hundreds of thousands.

Also, who told him to deal with the crazy cases about paternity?

Bubs I am with you on this one.

All I am getting from those claims is that duties that should be handled by guardians are shifted to attorneys who then charge the estate. So, what are the guardians for? I would like to see if TJ really paid money to his attorney. During the kidnapping, the attorney clocked in several hours going to court & talking to TJ, so how much did TJ pay out of his own money? How about the times when Katherine's lawyer and TJ's lawyer made comments to the press about Paris or the case, did they add those times into the bill as well?

My only relief is that the estate has good lawyers who will look at these costs carefully.

I will go out on a limb and say he didn't

These two are guardians on paper only. One lives hours away with 5 children of his own. The other one lives in a separated area of the house, and only cares when it's time to cash the checks, sell interviews/sell them off to shady business partners (i.g. porn producers), or drag them somewhere so that she can benefit in any other way. Some guardians who failed to realize/see multiple suicide attempts of a child living under the same roof. SMH .