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    Default Dieter Wiesner-Channel on YouTube

    A new way to spread his hand-selected tapes?

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCC_...NA7GWUdA/about

    Dieter Wiesner, long term business manager and confidant created this channel show what actually happened with Michael.

    His personal relationship with Michael Jackson as his manager did not only entail Michael´s work, both develop a friendship over the years. It is Dieter Wiesner´s intention to share unreleased footage of Michael as well as intimate moments no one has ever seen before.

    This channel will release different videos from time to time showing Michael´s private side.

    We hope you enjoy the footage and keep Michael in mind as the loving person he was to all of us around him.


    First posted video:
    Michael Jackson to Dieter Wiesner- Power of Attorney

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mf2vOaBzDrk
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    Default Re: Dieter Wiesner-chanel on youtoube

    Curious first video:ph34r:
    Why he recorded MJ giving him power of attorney? That video made me very uncomfortable.
    I wonder if he is he the one selling those private video all over the place?

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    Default Re: Dieter Wiesner-chanel on youtoube

    these people are useless. unemployed and desperate.

    MJ's biggest curse was to hang out with the wrong people. his demise was inevitable in that regard.

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    Default Re: Dieter Wiesner-chanel on youtoube

    This makes me wonder how much of MJs stuff he has? Video footage, songs, concert recording ect... Thome also... They are both slim balls.

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    Default Re: Dieter Wiesner-chanel on youtoube

    Quote Originally Posted by passy001 View Post
    these people are useless. unemployed and desperate.

    MJ's biggest curse was to hang out with the wrong people. his demise was inevitable in that regard.
    Its too funny that now Dieter call Michael a friend, when in his 2005 lawsuit against MJ he said this:
    "MJ once was an internationally famous pop star"

    http://abcnews.go.com/images/US/jack...int_051122.pdf

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    Default Re: Dieter Wiesner-chanel on youtoube

    Quote Originally Posted by Bubs View Post
    Curious first video:ph34r:
    Why he recorded MJ giving him power of attorney?
    It's kind of obvious that Michael recorded himself. He was probably just to lazy to go through paper work.

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    Default Re: Dieter Wiesner-chanel on youtoube

    Paper work?. weisner recorded mj signing power of attorney to him. very dodgy in its self hence the recording of it cause you know it was gonna end up as part of a lawsuit

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    Default Re: Dieter Wiesner-chanel on youtoube

    Quote Originally Posted by elusive moonwalker View Post
    weisner recorded mj

    You and Bubs are jumping to conclusions.
    Where does this video show that anyone was with MJ while it was recorded?
    The camera is standing rock solid still. So there was noone holding it.

    Maybe Wiesner asked him to record it, maybe it was Michaels idea. We don't know.
    To me it looks like a video Michael recorded himself to send it to Wiesner and Konitzer.

    A simple detail. But it's more dramatic to assume that Wiesner went there personally with a camera and made Michael say this, right? :smilerolleyes:

    Even with a guy like Wiesner, who failed on many levels taking care of Michael business, it's completely understandable that
    they made some official documentaion about their partnership. That alone I don't find dodgy.

    The fact that he posts such a video publicly now.. THAT is dodgy.
    Last edited by Electro; 09-02-2015 at 05:59 PM.

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    Default Re: Dieter Wiesner-chanel on youtoube

    No ones saying mj was made to do anything. Mj had a history of giving ppl power of attorney when he shouldnt have.

    we also dont know who, if anyone was standing behind the camera regardless of it been on a stand but considering it was a dodgy act in itself of getting power of attorney and the fact weisners the one to post the video that implies to me he wanted the signing recorded as no doubt it would end in a lawsuit somewhere down the line. And wanted evidence of mj signing it

    you think mj filmed himself giving someone power of attorney. im more inclined to believe weisner wanted it filming as proof for when a lawsuit happened down the line as giving someone p.o.a isnt the norm. ontop of weisner having a copy although he may have got that copy if mj made it via the lawsuit. Personally i see no gain in mj filming it himself but i see every gain in weisner doing it for the long run
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    Quote Originally Posted by Electro View Post
    The fact that he posts such a video publicly now.. THAT is dodgy.
    I agree with this. Why in the world would he post a video like this? I can sometimes understand the private ones that other people post-they're usually pretty charming and affectionate. But this one is just strange.

    What would be the motive for such a thing?

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    Default Re: Dieter Wiesner-chanel on youtoube

    I guess he is riddled by the hate that many fans have for him.
    When you look at Wiesners website, it looks like, he defines his carreer via the time he worked for Michael.
    So he may be releasing bits like this in order to prove he really worked for Michael or so.


    In this german article (includes an interview wih Wiesner after he released his Book)
    http://www.welt.de/print/wams/kultur...r-Wiesner.html
    Wiesner says the video was Michaels idea. Michael had fired all his attourneys etc at the time,
    so if Wiesner sent him paper contracts, Michael would have had noone he trusted to check it. (Just my guess).

    "Zum Generalmanager hatte Michael Jackson damals Dieter Wiesner ernannt. Die Vollmacht ruht nun im Tresor in Nieder-Roden. Wiesner wischt über sein iPad und zeigt einen Film: Sein Arbeitgeber, bleich mit Sonnenbrille, sitzt vor einer Bücherwand im Sessel und erklärt mit brüchiger Stimme, dass er seinem deutschen Partner alle Rechte übertrage. Wiesner sagt: "Der Meikel hatte Angst." Ein Video hielt er für glaubwürdiger als ein Schriftstück. Jackson hatte seinem Personal gekündigt, einflussreichen Anwälten und mächtigen Managern, er fühlte sich verraten und verkauft, als Wirtskörper ihres Systems. So nannte er die Unterhaltungsindustrie des 20. Jahrhunderts: "Das System." In fünf Jahren würde er 50 sein, da wollte er nicht länger um die Welt reisen, den Moonwalk tanzen und mit seinen Liedern Trost spenden und fremde Konten füllen. Wiesner sollte sich für ihn an Apple, Disney und Mercedes wenden, sich mit der gefilmten Vollmacht ausweisen und Michael Jackson als Geschäftsmann neu erfinden."

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    Default Re: Dieter Wiesner-chanel on youtoube

    Anyone know the date of when this power of attorney was given?

    Quote Originally Posted by electro
    So he may be releasing bits like this in order to prove he really worked for Michael or so.
    I don't think fans dispute that he actually worked for mj and was his manager. I would say our gripe is that he was an unmitigated disaster at it.

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    Default Re: Dieter Wiesner-chanel on youtoube

    So he may be releasing bits like this in order to prove he really worked for Michael or so
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    everyone knows he worked for mj. unfortunatly he needs to show nothing to prove that. considering weisners history before (german fans tried to tell mj about it) and during his time with mj its more of logic than hate in questioning the motives of his actions.

    good question bonnie i cant remember off the top of my head but him and konitzer getting p.o.a was talked about alot during the 05 trial so im sure someone will have the date. mj also talked about i think during the depo when he talked about meds issues around that time
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    Default Re: Dieter Wiesner-chanel on youtoube

    Not the exact date, but it looks like it was January '03. It's from David LeGrands testimony.

    Q. Okay. And in -- sometime in January, or

    22 before that time, he decided -- Mr. Jackson decided

    23 that he wanted to put Ronald Konitzer and Dieter

    24 Weizner in charge of his enterprises?

    25 A. Yes. That’s what he told me.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    "Culture changes, fashion change, customs change, great music is immortal." - MJ

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    Quote Originally Posted by elusive moonwalker View Post
    So he may be releasing bits like this in order to prove he really worked for Michael or so
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    good question bonnie i cant remember off the top of my head but him and konitzer getting p.o.a was talked about alot during the 05 trial so im sure someone will have the date. mj also talked about i think during the depo when he talked about meds issues around that time
    So maybe he's planning to bring a law suit against the estate for unpaid management fees-like everybody else-and he's disputing that Michael was on drugs when he agreed to it. This would be a first step, I guess, by posting a very coherent video.

    I'm not that familiar with him, but it seems like all his recent money making endeavors recently have been failing.

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