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    Default Re: Songs that inspired Michael

    Quote Originally Posted by respect77 View Post
    That's called shuffle-rhythm and it wasn't invented by Tears for Fears. It comes from blues music, so I am not sure if MJ was inspired by Everybody Wants To Rule The World.
    I did not say that Tears for Fears invented that type of rhythm.

    I only addressed this similarity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by respect77 View Post
    That's called shuffle-rhythm and it wasn't invented by Tears for Fears. It comes from blues music, so I am not sure if MJ was inspired by Everybody Wants To Rule The World.
    Given that Katherine asked him to write a song with a shuffle rhythm, I doubt he was specifically inspired by Tears for Fears.

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    The list of music Michael has been influenced by is so large... It would be harder to find music that was not an influence... We are talking about a guy that would commonly get music from around the world sent to his house to study what people are listening to everywhere - find what is common and utilize it to draw in the most amount of listeners..

    There is no secret that Motown, Blues, Jazz, classical music, Stevie, and the Bee Gee's were huge musical influences though..
    **He lives forever within us**

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    Off the top of my head, we have Come Together and Strawberry Fields Forever
    Mike also sang Dig It from the Let It Be album.


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    Default Manu Dibango feat. Fania All Stars ~ Soul Makossa

    The chant on Wanna Be Startin' Somethin' comes from here



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    Default Denny Jaeger

    This is is a demonstration record released in 1981 called The Incredible Sounds Of Synclavier II. I have no idea if Mike heard this or not. But maybe Quincy Jones or Bruce Swedien had. Some producers of the past used sound effect records and they generally weren't listed in the credits. Go to 6:40 of this video

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    Default Yellow Magic Orchestra ~ Behind The Mask

    This is a mostly instrumental track that came out in 1979. Mike later wrote some different lyrics to it and was recorded by Greg Phillinganes and then Eric Clapton. Greg plays on Eric's version too.


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    Default Re: Songs that inspired Michael

    ^ Later Ryuichi Sakamoto of the Yellow Magic Orchestra recorded MJ's version as well:


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    Quote Originally Posted by DuranDuran View Post
    This is is a demonstration record released in 1981 called The Incredible Sounds Of Synclavier II. I have no idea if Mike heard this or not. But maybe Quincy Jones or Bruce Swedien had. Some producers of the past used sound effect records and they generally weren't listed in the credits. Go to 6:40 of this video
    Wow, a great (albeit perhaps slightly disappointing) find, did not know about this one.

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    Default Re: Songs that inspired Michael

    Since they used that gong sound for Beat It from a demo record, did they have to pay to use it?

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    Default Re: Songs that inspired Michael

    Song credits were still pretty sloppy in the 80s. For example, MJ wasn't credited for Behind the Mask on Eric Clapton's album sleeve, as far as I know.

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    Default Re: Songs that inspired Michael

    Quote Originally Posted by barbee0715 View Post
    Since they used that gong sound for Beat It from a demo record, did they have to pay to use it?
    No. See, the sound itself is actually produced by the Synclavier II so Quincy and Michael just used that sound on their own Synclavier II in the studio. They didn't sample the demo disc (although it seems like they were inspired by that, I can see Quincy/Bruce hearing that demo disc and basing the intro off that).

    You can see Junkie XL also use it here and produce the exact same sound in this behind the scenes video for the Deadpool soundtrack:

    (2m56s for reference)

    Goddamn that's such a cool sound!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by barbee0715 View Post
    Since they used that gong sound for Beat It from a demo record, did they have to pay to use it?
    If they did actually use the demo, instead of replaying it, I think they do have to pay. At least that is the case with the sound effect (aka sound library) records. The companies who put out the sound effect records get paid a fee, but I don't think they get royalties, and don't have to be credited. If you hear saws, cars, animals, crowd noises, rain, etc. on a song, they usually come from these sound effect records. If the act or producer doesn't want to pay, they might record the sound themselves, like the water sounds on Yellow Submarine by The Beatles or the heartbeat on Smooth Criminal.

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    Very important information!
    Thanks!

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    Much Too Soon from this song

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