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    Default Re: Songs that inspired Michael

    Quote Originally Posted by MpMj1011 View Post

    Much Too Soon from this song
    Isn't it just a coincidence? Although I'd love to believe he appreciated Czech music...
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    Quote Originally Posted by MpMj1011 View Post

    Much Too Soon from this song
    A huge stretch.

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    ^ It sounds nothing like Much Too Soon
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    Default Re: Songs that inspired Michael

    MJ’s ‘Fall Again’, which was recorded in 1999, is melodically similar to Sting’s ‘Shape Of My Heart' (1993):




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    Quote Originally Posted by mj_frenzy View Post
    MJ’s ‘Fall Again’, which was recorded in 1999, is melodically similar to Sting’s ‘Shape Of My Heart' (1993):



    Fall Again wasn't written by MJ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by respect77 View Post
    Fall Again wasn't written by MJ.
    I know.

    But, it still annoys me when singers (MJ in this case) record tracks & the strong melodic resemblance (to previously released songs) is not rightfully credited.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mj_frenzy View Post
    I know.

    But, it still annoys me when singers (MJ in this case) record tracks & the strong melodic resemblance (to previously released songs) is not rightfully credited.
    It was not MJ's job or business to change the credits of a song he did not write.
    Last edited by respect77; 02-04-2016 at 08:53 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mj_frenzy View Post
    But, it still annoys me when singers (MJ in this case) record tracks & the strong melodic resemblance (to previously released songs) is not rightfully credited.
    What about genres that have a standard sound and many of the songs in that genre sound similar like "drums n bass", house music, reggaeton, and rave/techno? I've heard many Tejano songs and a lot of them sound alike too, the same vocal style, the music, and even how the songs end. They don't usually fade out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MAQ View Post
    I think Darling Nikki could've influenced Dirty Diana. I mean the settings are very similar and they're both about groupies. Plus, both songs' music videos are of live performances.
    There is a demo of Dirty Diana that is dated back to 83.

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    I know Quincy Jones said Beat It was inspired by My Sharona, but there's a riff during the verses of this 1981 Sister Sledge song that sounds a little like it. There's even breathing before the guitar solo.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DuranDuran View Post
    What about genres that have a standard sound and many of the songs in that genre sound similar like "drums n bass", house music, reggaeton, and rave/techno? I've heard many Tejano songs and a lot of them sound alike too, the same vocal style, the music, and even how the songs end. They don't usually fade out.
    I can understand what you mean.

    It looks very strange to me why these genres you mentioned appear to be so lax when it comes to music plagiarism.

    But, on the other hand, one could claim that such legal cases do arise (Tejano songs, for example) but many of them just never happen to come to light.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mj_frenzy View Post
    I can understand what you mean.

    It looks very strange to me why these genres you mentioned appear to be so lax when it comes to music plagiarism.

    But, on the other hand, one could claim that such legal cases do arise (Tejano songs, for example) but many of them just never happen to come to light.
    The lyrics & melody might be copyrighted, but guitar/bass riffs and drum patterns can't really be. There's a lot of old blues songs that have the same guitar riff, same for reggae. Some types of music just have a generic sound that makes it readily identifiable to what it is. For any type of music, there's only so many notes, so is anything really unique? Maybe someone can do it with some kinds of avant-garde music, but that generally doesn't appeal to a wide audience. There's a video on Youtube where some guys demonstrate that a lot of pop hits have the same 3 or 4 chords and so are interchangable with each other. The only difference is that the songs have different lyrics or different instruments. I think the video is used for humor, but it still shows that a lot of songs sound alike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DuranDuran View Post
    The lyrics & melody might be copyrighted, but guitar/bass riffs and drum patterns can't really be. There's a lot of old blues songs that have the same guitar riff, same for reggae. Some types of music just have a generic sound that makes it readily identifiable to what it is. For any type of music, there's only so many notes, so is anything really unique? Maybe someone can do it with some kinds of avant-garde music, but that generally doesn't appeal to a wide audience. There's a video on Youtube where some guys demonstrate that a lot of pop hits have the same 3 or 4 chords and so are interchangable with each other. The only difference is that the songs have different lyrics or different instruments. I think the video is used for humor, but it still shows that a lot of songs sound alike.
    This does not look to be far from reality.

    It even also applies to one of my favorite songwriters/producers, Rodney Jerkins. Certain songs that Jerkins had a significant input sound (musically) very similar to previously released ones. For example, ‘Lose My Breath’ (2004) which is very similar to Justin Timberlake’s ‘Like I Love You’ (2002), or ‘I Got U’ (2005) which again resembles a lot Janet’s ‘My Baby’ (2004), etc.

    Now, regarding songs that MJ had involvement in the songwriting/production aspect, I find the third verse from ‘You Rock My World’ (“And girl, I know that this is love… to have you here”) musically very similar to the third verse from ‘If I Told You That’ (“If we take this chance… for you and me”). ‘You Rock My World’ was released in 2001, while Whitney Houston’s ‘If I Told You That’ was released in 1998.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mj_frenzy View Post
    It even also applies to one of my favorite songwriters/producers, Rodney Jerkins. Certain songs that Jerkins had a significant input sound (musically) very similar to previously released ones. For example, ‘Lose My Breath’ (2004) which is very similar to Justin Timberlake’s ‘Like I Love You’ (2002), or ‘I Got U’ (2005) which again resembles a lot Janet’s ‘My Baby’ (2004), etc.
    He did that with Chanté Moore & Jennifer Lopez. You can hear Chanté talking about Puff Daddy (who was dating J Lo at the time) telling Rodney to give the song to Jennifer. Chante's song came out first, but she's not as well known as J Lo, even though Chante's recording career started when J Lo was still a Fly Girl dancing on In Living Color. You can watch 5:00 to the end of this video to hear about it

    There's some oldies songs that literally uses the same music track, but are released as different songs, such as Am I The Same Girl by Barbara Acklin & Soulful Strut by Young-Holt Unlimited. Both songs came out on the same label. Some labels back then did this to save money. There's also the answer songs (aka reply songs). They often sounded like the song they were replying to, so the audience will easily know. Here's a short documentary that says that a lot of entertainment, not just music, is a copy of something before it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DuranDuran View Post
    He did that with Chanté Moore & Jennifer Lopez. You can hear Chant[FONT=comic sans ms]é talking about Puff Daddy (who was dating J Lo at the time) telling Rodney to give the song to Jennifer. Chante's song came out first, but she's not as well known as J Lo, even though Chante's recording career started when J Lo was still a Fly Girl dancing on In Living Color. You can watch 5:00 to the end of this video to hear about it
    Chanté Moore’s slight bitterness (towards Rodney Jerkins) makes sense. I can completely understand how she feels about that.

    But, if you ask me, Puff Daddy is to blame for that mess-up. He should not have intervened in the first place. Yet, Daddy’s avariciousness does not surprise me at all!

    I also gather that Chanté Moore implies pressures from Jennifer Lopez’s camp (by mentioning that Lopez “had such a machine at the time”) for not releasing the song ‘If I Gave Love’ as her next single.

    Quote Originally Posted by DuranDuran View Post
    There's some oldies songs that literally uses the same music track, but are released as different songs, such as Am I The Same Girl by Barbara Acklin & Soulful Strut by Young-Holt Unlimited. Both songs came out on the same label. Some labels back then did this to save money. There's also the answer songs (aka reply songs). They often sounded like the song they were replying to, so the audience will easily know. Here's a short documentary that says that a lot of entertainment, not just music, is a copy of something before it.
    When it comes to movies, I am firmly convinced that many filmmakers copy shamelessly other movies, & ‘pay homage to’ is merely a euphemism for ‘copy blatantly from’.

    Take the horror movie genre for instance (which, by the way, is the only genre that appeals to me). I never understood what was so special about ‘The Texas Chainsaw Massacre’ to the point where so many subsequent horror movies keep taking elements from that one. I want original horror ideas.

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