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    Default Re: The Will.i.am tracks [Discussion]

    Quote Originally Posted by Pink Diamond Princess View Post
    I have no idea why Will.I.Am always talks about these MJ tracks if he never plans on releasing them.
    Maybe because just mentioning MJ's name will bring attention to whatever else he has to say. :mellow:
    Agreed. Either put up, or shut up, Will! Lol.
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    Default Re: The Will.i.am tracks [Discussion]

    Does he really bring it up though? I haven't seen mentioning for a while, I feel like it's more when people ask him.. Maybe I'm wrong, I haven't fallowed what he's up to for some time now.
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    Default Re: Will.I.Am has unreleased Michael Jackson tracks.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bubs View Post
    I don't know what Will has because this is what he said in 2010:

    Will added that the songs he worked on with Jackson will never see the light of day. "He kept his vocals and I kept the music," he said. "We had that understanding."

    According to that, Will only has music, but not Michael's vocals.
    Yep. Which means that the vocals are probably in the MIJAC vaults (if Michael kept them) and therefore owned by the Estate. There would need to be a Will.i.am/Estate collaboration to finish and release the songs and I don't think that will ever happen. The opinion of the Execs is that there will not be any "new music" released any time soon. I personally don't think there are enough finished vocals left that can be worked into good songs.
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    Default Re: The Will.i.am tracks [Discussion]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mikky Dee View Post
    Yeah, I have to agree. His songs stick to a very simple formula and they really don't have the ~Michael magic~, of course.
    You all have to have in mind that these are not classic will.i.am songs. Those are Michael Jackson collaborations. Some songs are co-written by Michael. Michael probably wrote all of the lyrics for them. Michael co-produced them with Will.

    That is like saying. I don't like Bill Bottrell production (I used an example, because I don't know any of his music) but his collaborations with Michael are masterpieces. That is the point of collaborating.

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    Default Re: The Will.i.am tracks [Discussion]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mikky Dee View Post
    Yeah, I have to agree. His songs stick to a very simple formula and they really don't have the ~Michael magic~, of course. I also think that anything he and Michael worked on together would be FAR from finished and would need a LOT more work to be released today. I would say Will.i.am knows this and he also knows that he can't do the songs any justice without Michael here.
    At least I'm Dreamin must be finished.
    He wanted to release it on his album #willpower but the estate didn't allow it.
    Wish we get to hear this song one day

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    Default Re: The Will.i.am tracks [Discussion]

    From what I have heard, If there is actually any vocals, they are all with the Estate

    Will I Am kept the instruments
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    Default Re: The Will.I.Am Tracks

    I have higher expectations on the will.i.am songs than on the redone tracks
    which i also want to hear one day

    I would love to get an album of them combined


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    Default Re: The Will.I.Am Tracks

    To be honest redone or will tracks probably will never ever get released. Although i hope they prove me wrong.


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    Default Re: The Will.i.am tracks [Discussion]

    The thing is regarding all these newer producers Michael worked with.. Will.i.am, Neff-U, Redone..

    Michael approached this differently than he did when he was BECOMING King! These producers would submit songs and Michael would kick them back, tell them what to change etc. So whatever we 'expect' from these producers, it wouldn't be exactly that.. Most artists these producers work with, THEY bring the 'goods' and the artist take what they have to offer.. They are usually the expert..

    In Michaels case, Michael was the expert and there was a game of sort for who would make the next MJ album..

    Michaels creativity really played a roll in the work he did with them.. Ne-Yo for example submitted 4 songs and he told him he liked 1 song.. kicked it back, and well - in his case I don't think it ever went anywhere. But still, that gives the picture of the world these producers were living in.
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    Default Re: The Will.i.am tracks [Discussion]

    Honestly the longer these tracks aren't released the more my own interest in them is fading

    I could wait a lifetime (hopefully not though) for Joy, Stop Throwing Your Life Away, Men In Black (complete version)

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    Default Re: The Will.i.am tracks [Discussion]

    Since those songs are some of the last songs MJ is known to have worked on I am interested in hearing them. Maybe to see/feel the direction he was heading with new music and what he was working on.

    A 50 year old MJ would propably release a little different music than 25 year old MJ. Would be interesting to hear the new direction - if there was one.
    https://www.youtube.com/user/Ahess/videos - me dancing MJ - many years ago.

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    Default Re: The Will.i.am tracks [Discussion]

    Quote Originally Posted by SmoothCriminal1995 View Post
    Honestly the longer these tracks aren't released the more my own interest in them is fading

    I could wait a lifetime (hopefully not though) for Joy, Stop Throwing Your Life Away, Men In Black (complete version)

    Yeah me too. I said at the time that IF the MJ Estate were ever going to release the Will I am track it HAD to be the first posthumous album. Reason being that if they were worked on around 2006/2007 then in 2009/2010 they weren't very old. They were going to be the most 'current' sounding songs available by a successful contemporary artist. Any posthumous MJ single release was bound to make the news, but the MJ Estate needed a hit single and a modern sounding song with a modern producer could have done that for them. What we ended up with was 'This Is It' as the lead single. As poignant as it may have been, it was not a hit. Not even nearly. I remember the hype in the UK on morning TV, they live video of guards carrying the new song in a secure case. Radio 1 dedicated time to premiere the new MJ song. This was youth radio giving MJ a chance to shine, possibly even willing MJ to release something great and what did they get??? A song that should have stayed on the oldies station. R1 NEVER played that song again after that day.

    Now, I'm not saying that a Will.i.am track would have been a mega hit, BUT if it had at least been passable then it could have got spins and sales would follow. I guess the Estate were aiming for the older market, assuming that only the oldies liked MJ, but evidently they didn't like MJ enough to sell vast quantities - younger people buy and stream more music. We'll never know, but perhaps at that time, when MJ's death was still fresh, maybe they would have pulled through.

    Although Will had been around a while with the Black Eyed Peas I didn't know whether Will would have any continued longevity in the industry as a hit maker, but as it turns out, almost 9 years after MJ's death Will's star has long since faded, as has his sound.
    If they ever release his tracks now, they will be far less relevant than they would have been in 2010, produced by a less relevant producer than he was in 2010, and in all likelihood the producer's audience has moved on to other things, so who exactly would be the target audience? The MJ hardcore and we care less and less by the day.

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    TII wasn`t released as a single. You could only buy the album, not the song. Despite of that it was often played on radio-station, same with the TII-vid on TV-stations.

    It was premiered worldwide on Jackson's official website on October 12, 2009 four months after his death on June 25, 2009. Although Sony Music Entertainment referred to the song as a "new single" during its promotion, it was later confirmed that the song would only be sent for airplay, and not be available to buy as a single release.
    Although Sony did not release the track as a single, it was confirmed that "This Is It" would be released to radio stations for airplay, but that it would not be downloadable. Sony chose to release the song as an album-only track as part of a strategy to encourage fans to buy the entire Album.
    Despite being a non-downloadable album track, the song appeared on many charts due to radio play alone.[27] Gary Trust of Billboard acknowledged that without "This Is It" having a digital (distribution) component its chances on making an impact on the Billboard Hot 100 would not be likely


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    I am not convinced that there is really worthy stuff from the collabaration with Will.i.am
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    Default Re: The Will.i.am tracks [Discussion]

    I think it belongs in this thread and you can say Will-i-am is flip-flopping over the years. Now saying he never would been releasing the songs out of respect for Michael.

    In 2013 he said. He wanted to release a song of his Album but did not get permission from the Estate. He speaks about it about 5.20min.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=Fz8RYQQ1T6Y
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