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    Default Re: Michael & Lisa Marie Discussion Thread (Hate is not welcome)

    This is from Ron Miscavige's book entitled "Ruthless". He is the father of Scientology leader David Miscavige and he's had a massive falling out with his son since he has left the church. There is a part in the book where he mentions LMP.

    Unbeknown to us, another player would enter the drama that was about to
    unfold. I have been friends with Lisa Marie Presley for a long time. We first
    met at the maiden voyage of the Freewinds cruise ship in 1988. That first
    voyage was a big deal in the world of Scientology, and the ship was packed
    with important Scientologists and Scientology celebrities. Lisa Marie and I
    somehow were introduced to each other and hit it off. We spent a lot of time
    chatting in the ship’s lounge during the cruise. Over the years, she came to the
    Gold base occasionally, and she and I used those opportunities to renew our
    friendship. After Becky and I left in 2012, I contacted Lisa Marie, and we have
    remained in close touch since. We talk on the phone often, and she and I were
    catching up on the latest when I told her that Becky and I were driving down to
    Florida.

    “Ron, you’re never going to guess where I am right now.”
    “I have no idea. Memphis? We’re in Tennessee right now.”
    “I’m near Clearwater. I’m here taking care of some things for the next few
    days.”
    “CW? Get out of here! We’ll be in town tomorrow!”
    We promised to talk again and get together if the opportunity presented
    itself.
    We made it to Clearwater, and on the first day we went to both Lori’s and
    Denise’s houses. Lori was not home. At Denise’s, we spoke to her husband for
    20 minutes through a crack in the door, but he never did allow us to see Denise.
    The conversation went nowhere. Finally, at the end I said, “Okay, Jerry, let
    me put it to you straight: Does this mean that you and Denise are through with
    us forever?”
    “Yes, Ron, we are through with you and Becky forever.”
    If I ever had misgivings about telling the world my story and about my son
    David, those vanished right there on Denise’s doorstep. At that moment I
    decided to write this book.
    We left and went back to Lori’s place. Her car was out front, so we knocked
    on the door for several minutes but she would not answer. That ended our first
    day, and I would not call it a success.
    On our second day, we drove about an hour south of Clearwater to have
    brunch with an old friend from our days at Gold. A mile from where we were
    staying, Becky noticed a black Jeep that seemed to be following us. She drove
    for another 20 miles before telling me what was going on. She wanted to be
    certain. Our earlier suspicions were confirmed. We were again being followed
    by private investigators. Three of them, in separate vehicles. After brunch, we
    drove back to Clearwater and were followed again. Nick Pye and the West Allis
    Police Department ran their plates, so we knew who the PIs were; still, it was
    distressing.

    What I did not know at the time was that Lisa Marie had decided to see if she
    could help me reconnect with my daughters. She and David had been friends at
    one time, and she thought that perhaps she could help. She went into the
    church’s headquarters in downtown Clearwater and spoke to David’s
    representatives. Later, she told me what happened. She was livid at the prospect
    of my not being able to talk to my daughters and the hypocrisy of the church’s
    claim that it has no policy of disconnection, yet clearly it was affecting the
    family of the Chairman of the Board! There are cameras in the Religious
    Technology Center offices in Clearwater, and Lisa said that she wanted to
    deliver a message directly to David, so she spoke directly to the cameras. From
    what she told me later, she let him have it pretty good. “How dare you not let
    your own father talk to his daughters? You are breaking up the family!” Irony
    of ironies, the church was in the process of holding a Family Day public
    relations event extolling the values of family life and showing its support for
    all families everywhere.

    A couple of days later, Lisa Marie received an astonishing response to her
    remarks. She and her husband were back in the Religious Technology Center
    office. Church officials apparently had decided that since Lisa Marie was
    concerned about my family, they were going to let my daughters address the
    problem. The message from the church was, basically, “Since you care so
    much about families, we want you to hear what Denise and Lori have to say.”
    What Lisa Marie relayed to me afterward was that the whole thing felt staged
    for her benefit. As if on cue, Denise and Lori came into the office. They had
    obviously been briefed and were stirred up and ready to kill.

    Denise lashed out at Lisa Marie and stomped around like David does,
    cursing and gesticulating and slamming her fist on the desk. She fulminated
    about how I had hit Loretta and how I did this and how I did that, yelling that
    she, Denise, never wanted anything to do with me again. Apparently, it was
    quite a performance. Lisa Marie’s husband told me afterward that watching
    Denise do her thing was like seeing Dave with a wig on blowing a gasket.
    In all probability, the cameras were on so the scene could be replayed for
    David, if he wasn’t sitting somewhere watching it in real time. David had
    helped Denise when she had a scrape with the law in 2013, something that has
    been written about elsewhere, so basically she now feels beholden to him, in
    my opinion. In other words, her performance was for her twin brother more
    than it was to make a point with Lisa Marie.

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    Default Re: Michael & Lisa Marie Discussion Thread (Hate is not welcome)

    wow...just wow THAT IS SO MESSED UP! i hope lisa never gees back to that disppicable "church"

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    Riley posted a picture with Michael on his birthday

    Happy Birthday mimi . ❤️��❤️ Repost @genevievejaxn

    A post shared by Riley Keough (@rileykeough) on


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    mimi???????? she called mke mimi????

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    Quote Originally Posted by 8701girl View Post
    mimi???????? she called mke mimi????
    Apparently.

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    Default Re: Michael & Lisa Marie Discussion Thread (Hate is not welcome)

    I wonder if it's pronounced like a short for Michael (sound like 'my' and not like 'me')
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    Default Re: Michael & Lisa Marie Discussion Thread (Hate is not welcome)

    or could it be a nickname for genevive?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 8701girl View Post
    or could it be a nickname for genevive?
    Yes. She says "happy birthday mimi" to Genevieve on Michael's birthday.
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    So genevive shares mj bday too?

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    So genevive shares mj bday too?
    No. That was sarcasm.
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    Default Re: Michael & Lisa Marie Discussion Thread (Hate is not welcome)

    I was only 14 when Michael and Lisa married...and not being a huge Elvis fan, I didn't understand all the confusion from people. My basic stance was "OK, so he married another well-known musician's daughter...and?" If anything, it made sense to me, since the biggest entertainers are often isolated...and it can't be easy to connect romantically in that world.

    I never kept up with all the gossip about them during their marriage, and to be honest I didn't really care. But like everyone else, I did see the "You Are Not Alone" short film...and Michael being a briefly-naked angel bothered me more than seeing Lisa with him in that footage. I didn't find out about their kiss at the VMAs until years after it happened, but I was surprised they only lasted two years. When Lisa wrote that now-famous blog post after Michael's passing, reading it filled me with sympathy for both of them. I thought they made a very cute couple, but it seemed leaving was more Lisa's decision than Michael's. She did tell Oprah he kept bugging her about having kids, though...which would strain things in any marriage if that's the main reason he pursued her. I don't claim to know, since I never met either of them...but I do think any man and woman who marry should stand by that decision. Unless your spouse becomes abusive, cheats, or does something freaky like devil worship...marriage is supposed to last a lifetime. That's its purpose, and overall, I think too few treat marriage seriously these days.

    As for Ron Miscaviage's book, I haven't read it yet...but after binge-watching Leah Remini's show, I really want to. I didn't realize Lisa had any interest in Scientology, and I sincerely pray she gets out of it very soon...permanently. In fact, I think everyone involved with that cult needs to leave it behind, in droves. I doubt the so-called "church" has enough people on its payroll, to keep everyone from leaving at once.
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    Default Re: Michael & Lisa Marie Discussion Thread (Hate is not welcome)

    I love Lisa, she amazing and wonderful, for she was Michael's strongest true love, he loved her, they loved each other, they were such a cute and sweet couple, i love seeing them together <3 <3 <3

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    but hun u gotta understand all mike wanted a family of his own being it with it was with lisa or whoever, thats what he really wanted to be married with kids a family to come home to where he know he will feel loved and supported. It was bigger than the elvis thing and ppl were pissed bout it cuz it was rumored that elvis was racist or somewhat like that. They were saying elvis wouldve been "hella mad" if lisa were to have children with mike or any other black man and imo i think the REAL REASON lisa didnt wanna fight for mike.


    People were getting into lisa s head aka her mother

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