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    Quote Originally Posted by ivy View Post
    why? you (generally speaking) complained about every single release, nothing was good enough, refused to buy etc. So what did you expect?
    I've complained about the aspects of the projects that I found sub-par or underwhelming (e.g., only two "new" songs on Xscape). I've praised more than a few things they've done. I also openly campaigned for people to stop tearing them a new one when it wasn't deserved.

    My recent complaints have focused on the Off the Wall reissue, which I still find to be useless and is the only project I haven't purchased.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michaels Lover View Post
    There is so much more to his legacy than just his 7 adult solo albums. Why limit it to his adult solo career only? There needs to be more focus on The Jacksons and The Jackson 5
    Ofcourse there's definitely more, but what I mean is that the core of his legacy should be prioritized. For example, I think it's incredible that there hasn't been a project to re-master his short films (and upscale those with no original film material). His short films are so unique and should be presented in much high quality instead of being treating like any other music videos. With regards to his albums, I don't think there's anything to add at this point since they were properly re-mastered in 2001 with with Michael overseeing the process personally. But how about concert footage? The irony is that Michael recorded every single concert he ever performed. It's unfathomable that the old concerts we have available officially are the Dangerous Bucharest concert and VHS footage of the Wembley Concert. In my opinion those kinds of releases should get priority. I would very much enjoy Jackson 5/Jacksons releases but I can consider that to be a different era of Michael's life before he was a solo entertainer.

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    I've had a fair few complaints myself about projects released, some of which were just downright laughable, some were at step in the right direction. This branding thing though (I call it franchising) is what they care about. Branca blurred quite a few lines here such as pointing out how they managed Michael when he was alive (Thriller era he talked about) because he/they were certainly not in charge before MJ passed. Lol at whatever he said about This Is It! Truth is, people were curious about This Is It because of the circumstance in which MJ died; certainly not anything to do with Branca! I don't like the guy!

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    Default Re: Branca: Unreleased Music Unlikely in the Foreseeable Future

    They never cared about his legacy or work. They just wanted that catalog. Now that they have it, they're done with him.

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    I'm not mad at all about not getting more unreleased music, and I'm actually really excited about what other projects they have in store for the coming year.
    I didn't like that LNFSG 'duet' in the least, and if that's the route they'd go with all of his unreleased music (which I believe they would for the sake of money) I'd rather them leave the music in the vault.
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    Default Re: Branca: Unreleased Music Unlikely in the Foreseeable Future

    the remaining assets will be on the auction block........the show is all over

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoeJack View Post
    Ofcourse there's definitely more, but what I mean is that the core of his legacy should be prioritized. For example, I think it's incredible that there hasn't been a project to re-master his short films (and upscale those with no original film material). His short films are so unique and should be presented in much high quality instead of being treating like any other music videos. With regards to his albums, I don't think there's anything to add at this point since they were properly re-mastered in 2001 with with Michael overseeing the process personally. But how about concert footage? The irony is that Michael recorded every single concert he ever performed. It's unfathomable that the old concerts we have available officially are the Dangerous Bucharest concert and VHS footage of the Wembley Concert. In my opinion those kinds of releases should get priority. I would very much enjoy Jackson 5/Jacksons releases but I can consider that to be a different era of Michael's life before he was a solo entertainer.
    If these people were any good they would do exactly what your talking about. They would do EVERY conceivable thing to obtain every existing piece of footage and hunt the world for the very best available.

    There is a ton of incredible music that could be released such as the Invincible tracks and all of the incredible demos (even partly finished such as People of The World) and there's also the tracks that need more shine such as the ones on The Ultimate Collection. Will-I-Am has a few unreleased things, Rodney Jerkins has studio footage of the Invincible sessions. They don't seem to want to PAY people who worked with MJ yet their making more money than anyother estate! How about paying a few people.

    Pay the Jacksons, propose some sort of deal with Motown and really bring MJ's legacy (Steeltown's Big Boy right up until the end) together. They should be willing to walk on water or go to Mars for this artist but nah we'll just keep on branding with Thriller and the Quincy tracks.

    Meh, they were givin one of the worlds greatest artists and they spent time making easy money; This Is It, selling the ATV catalogue and doing the Cirque shows. The day I'll be impressed with these muppets is the day they release Blu Ray restored footage, proper concert releases, not stadium screen VHS warped shite! And Bad 25 is up there for me with Xscape deluxe edition in terms of good releases.

    Truth is they've had to do very little for their dollar. I saw MJ One again last week in Vegas (tickets were over 120 dollars EACH and they were the CHEAP tickets) and I dropped another 100 dollars in the MJ boutique. Only thing I've not bought was the new Off The Wall. They wouldn't pay Quincy and they still couldn't even manage to include the ORIGINAL mix of the album as an incentive for fans.

    Branca only cares about his lifestyle and car collection. Dude don't give a toss about MJ.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pink Diamond Princess View Post
    I'm not mad at all about not getting more unreleased music, and I'm actually really excited about what other projects they have in store for the coming year.
    I didn't like that LNFSG 'duet' in the least, and if that's the route they'd go with all of his unreleased music (which I believe they would for the sake of money) I'd rather them leave the music in the vault.
    Xscape was a good contemporary album. I realise it's despised by many hardcore and purists fans but just in terms of pure fun it was pretty good. You would think with its success and their relentless branding they would have been interested in doing more unreleased music.

    I'm very disappointed I'll admit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aazzaabb View Post
    The day I'll be impressed with these muppets is the day they release Blu Ray restored footage, proper concert releases, not stadium screen VHS warped shite!
    Nuff said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pink Diamond Princess View Post
    I'm not mad at all about not getting more unreleased music, and I'm actually really excited about what other projects they have in store for the coming year.
    I'm not mad about that either, I don't care if they never release any new music ever again. but I wouldn't say that I'm excited about other projects, considering what they've given us so far, I'm rather pessimistic. The only posthumous projects from the estate that I care about is the Wembley DVD, and This Is it. (the only unreleased music I care about is Jackson 5, but that's not from the estate, that's from Motown, and what they have released so far, I am happy with). And they (the estate) didn't even give us anything for Dangerous 25, and I couldn't care less about another documentary (who's making it is irrelevant). So yeah, I don't have much hope for the estate to give us something that I care about

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michaels Lover View Post
    I'm not mad about that either, I don't care if they never release any new music ever again. but I wouldn't say that I'm excited about other projects, considering what they've given us so far, I'm rather pessimistic. The only posthumous projects from the estate that I care about is the Wembley DVD, and This Is it. (the only unreleased music I care about is Jackson 5, but that's not from the estate, that's from Motown, and what they have released so far, I am happy with). And they (the estate) didn't even give us anything for Dangerous 25, and I couldn't care less about another documentary (who's making it is irrelevant). So yeah, I don't have much hope for the estate to give us something that I care about
    when it comes to posthumous releases I expect the worst but hope for the best LOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bringing Brighter Days View Post
    the remaining assets will be on the auction block........the show is all over
    Don't say that.

    Every time I see or read about Branca, I get why he and Michael got along so well. They both talk in terms of being the biggest and/or #1. I know the music and the social message was important to Michael, but so was always being the greatest/#1 at everything. I know Michael got that from Joseph, but not sure where Branca got it from.

    I love hearing the unreleased demos, but all I really want them to work on is getting good copies of the Triumph Tour and the kids at the LA Forum. I want those two tours badly. I hope they finally work with the Jacksons to make that possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoeJack View Post
    Actually, this makes me even more excited. I want the estate to focus on presenting Michael's music, short films, and concerts in new and exciting ways... ...They're nice to have as added value but at the end of the day Michael's canon consists of 7 solo albums, 35 short films, and 3 world tours. That's his legacy.
    Quote Originally Posted by Pink Diamond Princess View Post
    I'm not mad at all about not getting more unreleased music, and I'm actually really excited about what other projects they have in store for the coming year.
    I agree! I love getting new material and Xscape was the closest thing I have ever got to feeling what a "new" Michael Jackson album is like, but I'm fine with holding off on unreleased music for a while. I'm optimistic for the future and I'm sure the Estate can come up with some cool new projects!

    Michael's legacy is what he put out during his life, and his posthumous work does little more than compliment it. LNFSG might've hit #1 around the world and introduced many fans to his work at the time, but ultimately, it's Billie Jean and the like that are going to keep his legacy going.

    I think also that we shouldn't rule out unreleased music all together. It's good because they're showing they're not just thinking about the short term, but they're thinking about how long they can prolong new Michael material for. Nobody wants a Tupac situation where every single piece of unreleased music (and then some...) is released within the first decade, because then what? It also shows they have some integrity and are not willing to scrape the bottom of the barrel... like what happened with Tupac... again.

    And sometimes it's nice to have a quiet period. The market has been saturated with plenty of Michael Jackson products over the past few years, and by having a few years of quiet will help make future releases more prominent and gain more attention. It's happened with other artists before (I.e. The Beatles) and it's happened with other markets too (The Disney Vault, so to speak).

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    I think the # of sales for unreleased material shows it is not THE money maker.. Sad to say but Michaels past work will most likely always get more attention than future unheard releases.. There is a lot they can do old music, unreleased footage etc..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerry Hennigan View Post
    While I've not been entirely uncritical
    there is no issue with healthy criticism. I was mentioning about the excessive complaints.

    Quote Originally Posted by AlwaysThere View Post
    I've complained
    I hope you saw that I added "generally speaking" so that "you" wasn't you personally. and I wasn't talking about any single person.

    That being said you can't deny that fans have been complaining about anything and everything. For example Michael album reaction was "they destroyed the songs, give them to us as it is". Bas 25 was presented demos as it is and the reaction to that was "meh nothing special". Xscape provided the two worlds combined (both new versions and originals) and that still wasn't enough, that time also brought in "well michael didn't release these songs in his lifetime so they shouldn't be released now" comments as well. Add to that complaints about which unreleased songs, the number of new songs etc., Plus the boycotts, refusal to buy releases etc. This really shouldn't be that surprising.

    Add to that their deal with Sony is about to end in 2017 and as I mentioned before in another thread they can satisfy that deal with releasing a video/dvd project. Probably Thriller that Landis mentioned. then they will probably not sign any music related deals for a while and any songs will be released quite some time later such as 5 - 10 -20 years later down the road.

    Quote Originally Posted by Michaels Lover View Post
    There is so much more to his legacy than just his 7 adult solo albums. Why limit it to his adult solo career only? There needs to be more focus on The Jacksons and The Jackson 5
    Some of those Jacksons, Jackson 5 songs are under control of Motown.

    Quote Originally Posted by aazzaabb View Post
    Branca blurred quite a few lines here such as pointing out how they managed Michael when he was alive (Thriller era he talked about) because he/they were certainly not in charge before MJ passed.
    Branca was a lawyer/business manager/advisor in 1979. Michael replaced his father with Branca. Later he hired Dileo to be his manager. So there was a period during Thriller era that Branca was more than a lawyer and had some management role.
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