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    Default Re: What would you ask MJ based on his performances in This Is It

    I was sure he signed a contract saying 30 shows with the possibility of more if demand desired? Maybe I'm wrong?

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    Default Re: What would you ask MJ based on his performances in This Is It

    Quote Originally Posted by SmoothGangsta View Post
    I was sure he signed a contract saying 30 shows with the possibility of more if demand desired? Maybe I'm wrong?
    Let me be more specific:

    Dr. Tohme Tohme signed a letter of intent (which is not a contract, but a preliminary document).

    According to that letter of intent, ‘Artistico’ pre-approved up to 31 shows. 'Artistico' is a legal company (represented by Dr. Tohme Tohme) that negotiated MJ’s business matters with AEG Live.

    That letter of intent was never signed by MJ himself, but by Dr. Tohme Tohme who acted on behalf of ‘Artistico’.

    So, several months later, when MJ signed the contract for the 10 shows, he automatically activated (without realizing it) that letter of intent’s clause of 31 shows.

    It should be noted that Dr. Tohme Tohme was one of those people that AEG Live brought into MJ’s life at that time in order to take advantage of him.

    It is telling that even MJ himself could not really trust Dr. Tohme Tohme & he never spoke highly of him. Yet, that person was handling MJ’s business affairs at AEG Live’s request.

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    Default Re: What would you ask MJ based on his performances in This Is It

    I wish MJ would have never agreed to This Is It and just moved abroad to raise his children in peace and solitude.

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    # of dates signed does not speak to feelings.. Gives hints to what he could have felt only! that's why I say speculation on what he felt prior to rehearsals started..

    Michael could have done This Is It if it was not for what was going on in his room with Conrad.. He needed rest, and that is not what was being provided. Michael was only 50... Not 70! I find us talking about the age 50 like it's THAT old. it's not...
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    Default Re: What would you ask MJ based on his performances in This Is It

    I would ask him if he feels (sincerely ) that physicaly he is " apte " to perform this concerts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KOPV View Post
    # of dates signed does not speak to feelings.. Gives hints to what he could have felt only! that's why I say speculation on what he felt prior to rehearsals started..

    Michael could have done This Is It if it was not for what was going on in his room with Conrad.. He needed rest, and that is not what was being provided. Michael was only 50... Not 70! I find us talking about the age 50 like it's THAT old. it's not...

    These are the tour dates for This Is It

    July 13, 2009
    July 16, 2009
    July 18, 2009
    July 22, 2009
    July 24, 2009
    July 26, 2009
    July 28, 2009
    July 30, 2009
    August 1, 2009
    August 3, 2009
    August 10, 2009
    August 12, 2009
    August 17, 2009
    August 19, 2009
    August 24, 2009
    August 26, 2009
    August 28, 2009
    August 30, 2009
    September 1, 2009
    September 3, 2009
    September 6, 2009
    September 8, 2009
    September 10, 2009
    September 21, 2009
    September 23, 2009
    September 27, 2009
    September 29, 2009
    Second Leg
    January 7, 2010 London United Kingdom The O2 Arena
    January 9, 2010
    January 12, 2010
    January 14, 2010
    January 16, 2010
    January 18, 2010
    January 23, 2010
    January 25, 2010
    January 27, 2010
    January 29, 2010
    February 1, 2010
    February 3, 2010
    February 8, 2010
    February 10, 2010
    February 12, 2010
    February 16, 2010
    February 18, 2010
    February 20, 2010
    February 22, 2010
    February 24, 2010
    March 1, 2010
    March 3, 2010
    March 6, 2010



    Michael had plenty of time to rest inbetween each show. The way some people talk you'd think he was performing on the 13th, 14th, 15th, 16th, 17th etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by mj_frenzy View Post
    Let me be more specific:

    Dr. Tohme Tohme signed a letter of intent (which is not a contract, but a preliminary document).

    According to that letter of intent, ‘Artistico’ pre-approved up to 31 shows. 'Artistico' is a legal company (represented by Dr. Tohme Tohme) that negotiated MJ’s business matters with AEG Live.

    That letter of intent was never signed by MJ himself, but by Dr. Tohme Tohme who acted on behalf of ‘Artistico’.

    So, several months later, when MJ signed the contract for the 10 shows, he automatically activated (without realizing it) that letter of intent’s clause of 31 shows.

    It should be noted that Dr. Tohme Tohme was one of those people that AEG Live brought into MJ’s life at that time in order to take advantage of him.

    It is telling that even MJ himself could not really trust Dr. Tohme Tohme & he never spoke highly of him. Yet, that person was handling MJ’s business affairs at AEG Live’s request.
    Ah right thanks for the clarification.

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    Analog that's exactly what I was saying in one of my earlier post... ps, Jan 18th was my concert.. My ticket 14th row/center..
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    Quote Originally Posted by analogue View Post
    These are the tour dates for This Is It

    July 13, 2009
    July 16, 2009
    July 18, 2009
    July 22, 2009
    July 24, 2009
    July 26, 2009
    July 28, 2009
    July 30, 2009
    August 1, 2009
    August 3, 2009
    August 10, 2009
    August 12, 2009
    August 17, 2009
    August 19, 2009
    August 24, 2009
    August 26, 2009
    August 28, 2009
    August 30, 2009
    September 1, 2009
    September 3, 2009
    September 6, 2009
    September 8, 2009
    September 10, 2009
    September 21, 2009
    September 23, 2009
    September 27, 2009
    September 29, 2009
    Second Leg
    January 7, 2010 London United Kingdom The O2 Arena
    January 9, 2010
    January 12, 2010
    January 14, 2010
    January 16, 2010
    January 18, 2010
    January 23, 2010
    January 25, 2010
    January 27, 2010
    January 29, 2010
    February 1, 2010
    February 3, 2010
    February 8, 2010
    February 10, 2010
    February 12, 2010
    February 16, 2010
    February 18, 2010
    February 20, 2010
    February 22, 2010
    February 24, 2010
    March 1, 2010
    March 3, 2010
    March 6, 2010



    Michael had plenty of time to rest inbetween each show. The way some people talk you'd think he was performing on the 13th, 14th, 15th, 16th, 17th etc
    He wasn't getting any sleep whilst using propofol. He wouldn't have been getting any rest if he continued using it.

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    I wish MJ would have performed Another Part Of Me. That song is awesome live, and it would have been great if he brought it back

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    I see a lot of you joined years after the whole TII thing, and some even after the Katherine Vs. AEG Live trials. I'm saying this because, I believe a few years ago, screens were posted from either the trial or prior to it, I remember Ivy or someone else posting the actual contract with Michaels signature and it was 10 shows, but the contract also said, I believe that later dates (shows) would be added if desired. We know Michael only initially signed on for 10 shows, but its too much speculation and unknowns to say for sure if he was aware or not of the other 40 shows. Whatever the case, the dates were what they were and Michael was preparing for 50 shows, at the end of the day.


    The Billie Jean thing is exactly like MIST said, it was rehearsals. I believe he has the same lackadaisical approach to Billie Jean during the Dangerous rehearsals as well. Actually he does it with most of his songs in the Dangerous rehearsals, as I'm watching them now, Dangerous specifically, and as far as his famous dance steps, it's like he marks them, or mimes them, and barely moves. I don't know what I'd ask Michael had I gotten the chance, but I know one thing, for a man that was 50 years old, and was supposedly going through all these health ailments, Michael was an exceptional talent even at this point and he moved like no one else I've seen. You can also clearly see him marking the kick, the moonwalk, and a few other Billie Jean moves during the TII rehearsal, so I don't think he was removing anything, or drastically changing his routines, remember, these rehearsals were never meant to be seen by us, they were for Michaels eyes only, so with that he was preparing himself, why would he go all out for rehearsals? He simply wouldn't.

    Had he made it to do even one show, I think a lot of people would've been surprised by how well he was able to move.
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    Default Re: What would you ask MJ based on his performances in This Is It

    Actually - in most performances in TII he performs more than during the Dangerous rehearsals.

    Imagine MJ had died just before the Dangerous Tour and all we saw was the rehearsals - that could really start some speculation regarding his health.

    Then cam the actual tour - where MJ of course performed 110 % (like he would have done in TII) and it is perfect concerts...

    To compare rehearsals and then speculate in MJ's health from rehearsals - compared to an actual concert - doesn't make sense really.

    I am not saying MJ did not have problems - propofol etc. - But I don't see him as a dead man walking during TII rehearsals. Had he not taken propofol or other drugs I think he would have done the concerts. His condition and health was good for a 50-year old man the autopsy concluded. - also the insurance tests before TII said he had good health. - Drugs was the enemy... - not being able to sleep must have been terrible when you had to rehearse before a world record breaking concert tour...
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    Default Re: What would you ask MJ based on his performances in This Is It

    ^ well to be 100% fair what we saw was edited to show him in a good light... If a Dangerous rehearsal was edited from multiple days it would come out pretty damn good..

    a large portion of This Is It wasn't even filmed at Staple Center as they advertise.. It has a lot of footage from The Forum rehearsals which people state that he was not in such a bad state in the earlier stages..


    And it's not so much the time between shows that would have made it possible, it's the lack of traveling with different time changes.. SLEEP!! his tours often had 2-4 days between shows. Just would be traveling between that time, no steady sleep.
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    Default Re: What would you ask MJ based on his performances in This Is It

    i would've ask him if he really think is possible to do 50 concerts

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    Quote Originally Posted by KOPV View Post
    ^ well to be 100% fair what we saw was edited to show him in a good light... If a Dangerous rehearsal was edited from multiple days it would come out pretty damn good..
    That is true of course - but still - even though they have 100 hours of film - they can only show him in a good light if he actually performed good and seemed fresh.
    They can not edit what didn't happen. Maybe there is footage showing he was tired and confused? I don't know - but what we see is not a weak person - health-wise - had it not been for addiction to drugs/medicin - I think physically he was able to perform 50 concerts - sometimes with 3 days break between concerts - and what 1-2 months break in the middle - so it was more like 2 legs with both 20-30 concerts really - with many days between. It was not gonna be nearly as intense as his previous tours. - AND it was all the same location - so no travelling. - He actually would have time to rest and recover between concerts.

    Quote Originally Posted by ramzoner View Post
    i would've ask him if he really think is possible to do 50 concerts
    I think I would ask him that too. - And if he said yes I would ask if he intended to put in some "Breaks" in the show so he could catch breath etc. - I think the many videos was also to do that. - Video before Smooth Criminal, Earth Song, Thriller etc. - also the loong break-down after TWYMMF where MJ and the girl would slowly walk of stage - a nice way for MJ to get his breath while still being on stage performing.
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