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    Default Re: MJ clothing line by Supreme may be in the works.

    Quote Originally Posted by respect77 View Post
    ^ I understand it perfectly how branding works. That doesn't mean I can't think they don't look good.
    Fair enough.

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    Default Re: MJ clothing line by Supreme may be in the works.

    they are not making any of us can't make at home.. and you know pasting pics on shirts don't last long before fading anyways.. even if they looked nice
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    Default Re: MJ clothing line by Supreme may be in the works.

    Quote Originally Posted by respect77 View Post
    God, they look amateurish. You can find nicer looking stuff on eBay from China. No wonder if these clothing lines fail with that little effort.
    Quote Originally Posted by HumbleBee View Post
    They serious? I could make those on a custom clothing design website...uh Supreme is overpriced anyways.
    Quote Originally Posted by MJTruth View Post
    I have no idea whey they have chosen that MJ picture.
    The 'cool' MJ people remember is the MJ silhouette. Or anything from the Beat It, BAD, Smooth Criminal, Thriller videos. Or any BJ concert performance from the 80s or early 90s. Hell I'd even stretch it by saying that a still from the Black Or White or Scream videos would be cool too. They could even just use the MJ logo (without the King of Pop reference).

    I can't see any skaters going for merchandise with that MJ picture on.

    The MJ Estate have officially licensed this, so why use such a bad picture when they had a whole catalogue of great pictures to use? This venture will fail unless they change it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Doggone View Post
    It looks cheap. They should have used another picture of Michael.
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    :lol: are they for real?
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    This isn't a 'clothing line' end of discussion.. lol
    Quote Originally Posted by respect77 View Post
    So they are basically making ugly, cheap desing as if I would have downloaded a photo from the Internet and had ironed it on one of my shirts real amateurishly and then they put a brand above it and sell it real expensive as if it was a fashion statement? It's funny what they can sell to people expensive by brand-snobism.
    Quote Originally Posted by respect77 View Post
    ^ I understand it perfectly how branding works. That doesn't mean I can't think they don't look good.
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    they are not making any of us can't make at home.. and you know pasting pics on shirts don't last long before fading anyways.. even if they looked nice

    RIP Supreme.
    We hardly knew Ye.:lol:

    But yeah, I think they could have done better.
    I do like the simplicity (which AFAIK Supreme is kind of known for) tho.

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    Default Re: MJ clothing line by Supreme may be in the works.

    I haven't heard of Supreme, but it does look exactly like those iron on patch things.

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    Default Re: MJ clothing line by Supreme may be in the works.

    It does doesn't it. Think they could have put a bit more thought into it, but I saw this on their Instagram page earlier and seems a lot of people were excited about it so to each their own I guess.
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    Default Re: MJ clothing line by Supreme may be in the works.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pink Diamond Princess View Post
    RIP Supreme.
    We hardly knew Ye.:lol:

    But yeah, I think they could have done better.
    I do like the simplicity (which AFAIK Supreme is kind of known for) tho.
    If they can't even produce a product that appeals to MJ fans then they don't stand a chance of marketing it to non fans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MJTruth View Post
    If they can't even produce a product that appeals to MJ fans then they don't stand a chance of marketing it to non fans.
    It's Supreme. There's no question that it will sell out.

    In case you didn't read my novel last page (and fair enough :lol, Supreme often produced rather limit quantities of these lines and given they're a highly sought after brand, you can essentially guarantee it'll sell out regardless of Michael's face being on it.

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    Default Re: MJ clothing line by Supreme may be in the works.

    With this type of talent out there... maybe I should make my own clothing line! lol
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    Default Re: MJ clothing line by Supreme may be in the works.

    Quote Originally Posted by HIStoric View Post
    It's Supreme. There's no question that it will sell out.
    MTE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HIStoric View Post
    It's Supreme. There's no question that it will sell out.

    In case you didn't read my novel last page (and fair enough :lol, Supreme often produced rather limit quantities of these lines and given they're a highly sought after brand, you can essentially guarantee it'll sell out regardless of Michael's face being on it.

    Ooops I didn't read your post.
    So they release genuinely limited quantities of these items? what's the point then? Branca said the estate would make no money on this deal but that they hoped to get new fans some day as a result of the deal. Well, with only very limited quantities I doubt they will attract many new fans (basic statistics), especially as the design is....well, uninspiring.
    I still believe it's true that these products would be MUCH more appealing to fans and non-fans if they used a design that was good. Something that might actually appeal to the Supreme's target market. I know it seems as though I think I know more than 'Supreme' themselves. A man of my age is not known for being intune with the skater fraternity but I have to say that I think I do this time around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MJTruth View Post
    Ooops I didn't read your post.
    So they release genuinely limited quantities of these items? what's the point then?
    Yes, the rarity of such items and the hype it produces is a signature aspect of the Supreme brand.

    From this article:
    Well the way Supreme works is instead of having a constant supply of a popular designs, such as Adidas track pants or Nike Just Do It shirts, Supreme instead makes “drops” on Thursdays where they release new designs. In these drops they release a very limited amount of any design, and after that drop they don’t sell that same design again... ...the feeling of rarity boosts people’s demand for the products, and the fact that they release so little at a time reduces the supply. Supreme’s artificial scarcity somehow works like magic, and if they can sell out anything they want in a matter of seconds then that seems like any company's dream, right?

    Well this special position Supreme is in is a double edged sword, since even if they know a particular design will sell for a lot, they know they can’t make any more of it. At the end of the day however, the reason Supreme is so popular is exactly because of the fact that they make everything so limited, and their prices aren’t even that high; a shirt will retail for only about $44!

    The article seems like a good introduction to the company's working model for those uninitiated, you might be interested in it.

    Quote Originally Posted by MJTruth View Post
    Branca said the estate would make no money on this deal but that they hoped to get new fans some day as a result of the deal. Well, with only very limited quantities I doubt they will attract many new fans (basic statistics), especially as the design is....well, uninspiring.
    Almost everyone who wears Supreme are young (teens to young adults). To have such a youthful brand focusing it's attention on Michael Jackson puts a spotlight on him for an audience that might not usually pay attention to him. Even if there are lower numbers of the product per-say, think of the marketing, discussion, rarity and demand that'll follow as a result. Seeing dope images of MJ on a clothing line by a respected brand could get them to check him out on Spotify/Apple Music too I guess

    I think what is key to remember is that working with a higher end 'premium' brand that is respected by younger audiences and popular with them helps associate the Michael Jackson brand name with a youthful, higher end image too. In fact, I just googled Branca discussing the Supreme collaboration and this reason is exactly why they're going forward with it, to re-brand MJ's image with a younger audience. Older audiences might not get it, but they're not the target audience.

    Here's a discussion where people discuss the popularity of Supreme and it's brand. Good explanations in there!

    Quote Originally Posted by MJTruth View Post
    I still believe it's true that these products would be MUCH more appealing to fans and non-fans if they used a design that was good. Something that might actually appeal to the Supreme's target market. I know it seems as though I think I know more than 'Supreme' themselves. A man of my age is not known for being intune with the skater fraternity but I have to say that I think I do this time around.
    I mean when it comes to fashion, everyone's going to have their own opinions on what looks good and what doesn't.

    The thing is, these designs do appeal to Supreme's target market as this simplistic, minimalistic style is what they're known for. Take for instance Pink Diamond Princess and I, we're both young and within Supreme's target market and we've both expressed here how we like the simplicity of the designs.

    I'm sure it's not to everyone's liking in our age bracket, but if you look at the success and popularity of the brand, well it is evidently appealing to a lot in this age bracket
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    I think what is key to remember is that working with a higher end 'premium' brand that is respected by younger audiences and popular with them helps associate the Michael Jackson brand name with a youthful, higher end image too. In fact, I just googled Branca discussing the Supreme collaboration and this reason is exactly why they're going forward with it, to re-brand MJ's image with a younger audience. Older audiences might not get it, but they're not the target audience.
    _____________

    Yes I allready wrote it in this thread:

    Branca said this about the deal in the IRS-Trial

    After two failed clothing line licensing attempts during the course of his living career, the one likeness deal that shows potential after his death is with a teen clothing company called Supreme. Branca explained to Holmes that kids are "crazy" for the company's shirts and the deal is an effort to rebrand Jackson's image with a younger audience.

    "We make no money from it, but maybe someday we’ll get new fans," he said.

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    Default Re: MJ clothing line by Supreme may be in the works.

    Quote Originally Posted by HIStoric View Post
    I mean when it comes to fashion, everyone's going to have their own opinions on what looks good and what doesn't.

    The thing is, these designs do appeal to Supreme's target market as this simplistic, minimalistic style is what they're known for. Take for instance Pink Diamond Princess and I, we're both young and within Supreme's target market and we've both expressed here how we like the simplicity of the designs.

    I'm sure it's not to everyone's liking in our age bracket, but if you look at the success and popularity of the brand, well it is evidently appealing to a lot in this age bracket
    I could hook up one of the hoodies/tee shirts (with MJs pic on it) with some skinny jeans/leggings and some Vans/Converse and I'm good to go.

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    Default Re: MJ clothing line by Supreme may be in the works.

    I have not heard of Supreme until now. To be honest, the clothing looks cheap; I wouldn't pay the prices they're offering. Are these prototypes? The images on the clothes are really small.
    I remember once somebody bought me a grey "BAD" T-shirt, and the image (Michael as pictured on the album cover beneath the logo) was smaller than a handprint. I mean, what's the point of that.
    (I was still grateful to get it, though.)
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    Default Re: MJ clothing line by Supreme may be in the works.

    ^ I honestly probably would not wear it if it was given to me.. IDK just having a basic face pic printed in such form (looks like you can peal off the pic) always looked so cheap and dumb to me.. not just MJ shirts, but any.. my friend used to make his own tupac shirts, given that's cool he was repping his favorite artist like that, my eyes always went to the corners of the picture and thought... I wonder if I scratched the corner if I could peal the pic off... and in the wash, that must not do well.
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