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    Krshna28 - I agree, sadly the united states is a fear based country.. people react and interaction with heightened fear and it causes many issues. There's a reason why this country has more gun related deaths than most with similar or more free gun laws.. It really is a sad situation! Cops may behind there vests but the way the society works, everyone is afraid of everyone in many ways.. More so than many other countries

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    Quote Originally Posted by mj_frenzy View Post
    I would rather believe what people (who were with him inside the police car) stated about MJ during his escort than fans’ guesses/interpretations.

    You mean members of the SB sherrif department? Didn't they make their attitude clear toward MJ
    during the two raids and the interviews with the Arvizos? How do you think MJ got those two big red
    bruises on his arms?


    Quote Originally Posted by mj_frenzy View Post
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    I agree. Police officers were very discreet towards him on that day.

    I think this is also because of MJ’s very cooperative behavior (from the very beginning) towards the whole process. So, as a reciprocal gesture, they did their best so as not to cause him any further embarrassment.
    If they had been discreet they would have taken the handcuffs off in the car before the whole world couldn't see it . There was no need for MJ to lift his hands it was obvious he was in handcuffs. And those sheriffs knew very well that the whole thing will be on TV. They wanted to humiliate him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by redfrog View Post
    You mean members of the SB sherrif department? Didn't they make their attitude clear toward MJ
    during the two raids and the interviews with the Arvizos? How do you think MJ got those two big red
    bruises on his arms?
    I am referring to how the process of his arrest took place on that day. Everything went smoothly & discreetly during those hours.

    You can also read or listen to public statements coming from the police (such as, from Chris Pappas) who also confirmed that the whole process took place in a very cooperative way from both sides.

    Regarding the red bruises on his arms, I cannot tell for sure what caused them. But, like I said before, there is a prevalent belief among people that MJ himself caused those bruises (rather than the police) for one or another reason. Personally, I cannot dismiss that possibility.

    Quote Originally Posted by redfrog View Post
    If they had been discreet they would have taken the handcuffs off in the car before the whole world couldn't see it . There was no need for MJ to lift his hands it was obvious he was in handcuffs. And those sheriffs knew very well that the whole thing will be on TV. They wanted to humiliate him.
    Police did not want to humiliate him during that day. For example, MJ’s jet (after getting the police’s agreement) got half inside the hangar when it landed to California in order for TV cameras not to capture MJ while he was surrendering & entering the police car. If the police wanted to humiliate him, they would not have allowed that.

    As for the handcuffs, taking his handcuffs off in the car (before the whole world could not see it) would have blatantly violated their US police protocol.

    But, that would also have led to other problems, as well. For example, if they had taken his handcuffs off in the car, then every other celebrity (in that position) would have demanded the exact same attitude from the police officers.

    Anyway, many other media channels from different countries commented on the high discreetness (on the part of the police) of that booking process on that day. It is not just me.

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    One question, why was his arrest even publicised in advance? Who released the information to the press? Is that police protocol too?
    Surely the press don't have the right to know whenever somebody is going to be arrested so that they film it. The police don't tell the press about every arrest, so it seems unfair to MJ that his arrest was publicised in that way. Totally unnecessary. It should be one rule for celebrities and one rule for others.

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    There is one thing that some seem to be forgetting about this whole thing. The Sheriff said he would charge Michael with filing a false police report. Michael never filed a police report. But, the sheriff wanted to charge him anyway that is disturbing. So ask yourselves this, they could never get away with doing that because of the media attention it would have gotten. But how many people have they done that too? Filing false charges

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony R View Post
    No offence to the OP, but I find threads and requests like this macabre to say the least. Forty years of genius and we look into the worst moments of his life.
    Never atruer word spoken!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MJTruth View Post
    One question, why was his arrest even publicised in advance? Who released the information to the press? Is that police protocol too?
    Surely the press don't have the right to know whenever somebody is going to be arrested so that they film it. The police don't tell the press about every arrest, so it seems unfair to MJ that his arrest was publicised in that way. Totally unnecessary. It should be one rule for celebrities and one rule for others.
    Publicizing his arrest in advance has nothing to do with the police protocol.

    The information (concerning his upcoming arrest) was released to the press by MJ’s official spokesman at the time Stuart Backerman, not by the police.

    MJ, while he was still in Las Vegas shooting his ‘One More Chance’ video, immediately authorized Backerman to issue a statement which revealed also some technical details about his arrest arrangements.

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberianGhost View Post
    Never atruer word spoken!
    This community tries to cover many aspects of MJ’s life.

    If you are not interested in particular threads, or, you do not have the required knowledge to engage in such discussions, then it is best for you to stay out of them.

    The same, of course, applies to some other users who act annoyingly like you.

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    I don't find a reason why fans shouldn't discuss the dark moments in Michael's life. I understand that these topics create intense feelings of sadness or anger, and bring back some horrible memories, but they were a part of MJ's life and had a huge impact on him in every aspect of his life, including his artistry. I think by discussing those incidents we gain more insight into this tortured man's life and realise what he has been through.
    Also, personally speaking as I became familiar with him after 2009, such topics help me learn new information about Michael that I hadn't witnessed myself or was not aware of.
    It was his music and his performances that made me a fan in the first place, but his character combined with all the tragedies in his life and the way he coped with them made me admire him even more, and I am sure that I am not the only one who feels the same way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoP View Post
    I remember recording 13 years ago on ET that covers "The Jackson Exposed", the audio was played for 10 seconds at least. But still I don't buy the police claimed they didn't do anything to him while arresting him. They're such liars as people can be, police are not all that good either.
    when i watch "the jackson exposed" on youtube, there is no 10 sec of MJ audio where you can hear him whistling.
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    why did they immediately release his mugshot to the world if they did not want to humiliate him? Their ex head was on TV everywhere talking about how much guilty MJ was in 1993 and he is happy that his buddies got him this time. The DA and the police were acting like they got Osama bin Laden that day. Actually a reporter did point out that considering the scale of search they run on Neverland, one would have thought Bin Laden himself was there. That's how "discreet" and "tasteful" they were. They were leaking FALE information about what they found to the press left and right to inflame the public against him because they were so discreet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soundmind View Post
    why did they immediately release his mugshot to the world if they did not want to humiliate him? Their ex head was on TV everywhere talking about how much guilty MJ was in 1993 and he is happy that his buddies got him this time. The DA and the police were acting like they got Osama bin Laden that day. Actually a reporter did point out that considering the scale of search they run on Neverland, one would have thought Bin Laden himself was there. That's how "discreet" and "tasteful" they were. They were leaking FALE information about what they found to the press left and right to inflame the public against him because they were so discreet.
    I think the timing was also deliberately set to the release date of Number Ones to cause maximum damage to MJ.

    And even mainstream media noted how inappropriate Sneddon and Co. acted at that press conference. They were anything but tactful and discreet.

    BTW, there were reports about MJ trashing his room in Las Vegas when he heard the news of the arrest - that's how happy and fine he was that day. Whistling in that situation certainly doesn't prove happiness and satisfaction. It is safe to say he wasn't happy and fine that day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soundmind View Post
    why did they immediately release his mugshot to the world if they did not want to humiliate him?
    Is that not normal behaviour, especially for persons of high interest that would be in demand by the press? I mean I think of when other celebrities are arrested and their mugshots get released quite quickly... even non-celebrities when media request their mugshot for articles/news reports etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by respect77 View Post
    BTW, there were reports about MJ trashing his room in Las Vegas when he heard the news of the arrest - that's how happy and fine he was that day. Whistling in that situation certainly doesn't prove happiness and satisfaction. It is safe to say he wasn't happy and fine that day.
    Someone suggested earlier that it was probably just him whistling out of nervousness or to try and keep him calm, I think that's likely what happened. Why the hell you'd be in a good mood when you've just been arrested and charged with child molestation is beyond me... (ESPECIALLY when you're innocent).
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    The good mood thing is ridiculous. I hum out loud (can't whistle) to calm myself down-especially during anxiety attacks.
    The staged perp walk was definitely for humiliation.

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    The police gets innocent people killed every day, even when there is a video tape they insist they did nothing wrong but the troll cannot imagine they roughened Mj after trying to frame him for a decade. Those no ones could not believe they were on national and international tv. Eventually, their 15 minutes of fame had long passed, they live and will die as no one while mj is still celebrated around the globe. The love and enthusiasm which surround Prince and Paris every move in Hollywood speaks to mj's place in history. All the press could remember the devil Sneddon for were his attempts and failures to get Mj, something that angered his family because according to them he accomplished much more than being the man who tried MJ. Where is their rotten father and who really cares about him or remembers him ? It must kill them every time they see Mj being celebrated which has become a matter of custom. the tide has dramatically changed and it would be soon enough that the general consensus would be that an evil overzealous DA framed the innocent Great Michae Jackson. They better hope that his memory be all forgotten because it has not goften any better for him or the police since mj's death even with the new accusations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mj_frenzy View Post
    I am referring to how the process of his arrest took place on that day. Everything went smoothly & discreetly during those hours.

    You can also read or listen to public statements coming from the police (such as, from Chris Pappas) who also confirmed that the whole process took place in a very cooperative way from both sides.

    Regarding the red bruises on his arms, I cannot tell for sure what caused them. But, like I said before, there is a prevalent belief among people that MJ himself caused those bruises (rather than the police) for one or another reason. Personally, I cannot dismiss that possibility.



    Police did not want to humiliate him during that day. For example, MJ’s jet (after getting the police’s agreement) got half inside the hangar when it landed to California in order for TV cameras not to capture MJ while he was surrendering & entering the police car. If the police wanted to humiliate him, they would not have allowed that.

    As for the handcuffs, taking his handcuffs off in the car (before the whole world could not see it) would have blatantly violated their US police protocol.

    But, that would also have led to other problems, as well. For example, if they had taken his handcuffs off in the car, then every other celebrity (in that position) would have demanded the exact same attitude from the police officers.

    Anyway, many other media channels from different countries commented on the high discreetness (on the part of the police) of that booking process on that day. It is not just me.
    Oh please sneddon and his co hoots had been after mj since 93 OF COURSE THEY WANTED TO EMBRASS HIM!!!

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