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    Default Re: MJ MusicDay in Lille (France) with Brad Buxer & Michael Prince

    New message from Bruce Swedien :


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    Default Re: MJ MusicDay in Lille (France) with Brad Buxer & Michael Prince

    Soooooooooo apparently attendees heard "Shut Up and Dance".

    You know I've gotta ask about it.

    If anyone here has heard it, a rundown would be greatly appreciated!

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    Default Re: MJ MusicDay in Lille (France) with Brad Buxer & Michael Prince

    Really, how do you know??? Please share what you know whoeever has been there.
    How does it sound? Was it the most recent version you heard? When was it last worked on? How complete is it in terms of instruments and vocals? Who wrote/produced it? Any plans to release it?


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    Default Re: MJ MusicDay in Lille (France) with Brad Buxer & Michael Prince

    I was there. the part with Brad and Michael Prince was nice. But I expected much more to be honest. The whole event started around 2pm and ended around 10pm. But Brad and Michael Prince only spoke for 2,5 hours (well, actually only Brad spoke, Michael Prince was more or less only "assisting" him). They showed a few parts of different multitracks but most times Brad played his keyboard live to the multitrack. That was kind of annoying. And they played some multitracks and added all the steams step by step so they actually sounded exactly like the original CD version in the end.

    In the end they played 2 "unreleased" songs: 1. Days in Gloucestershire and 2. Shut up and dance. First, I think it is a big joke that they let people extra pay for this "unreleased" part of the event because they play DiG which leaked YEARS ago and every fan of course knows this song already. Second, shut up and dance was not with Michael`s voice but only with a similar sounding voice. You really didnt miss anything about this. The sound and bass was TOO heavy and too loud (I guess because they want to avoid that people record it) and the song was okay but still, MJ did never sing the song.

    Generally speaking the whole event was about french people talking french to international people. Most people (who are not french) dont speak french at all and didnt understand 80% of the whole event. They made many breaks and wanted people to go to the little fan/collector shops to spend money or buy the books from the book writers who spoke for about 1 hour in french on the stage.

    All in all the only mentionable parts are: 1. Brad/Michael Prince speaking (even though they didnt show any new material or unreleased stuff from MJ, neither audio nor video), 2. the documention about Bruce Swedien (which was quite nice), 3. a live phone call with Bruce Swedien where you could ask him questions, 4. Meet and Greet with Brad/Michael Prince for photos and autographs

    Again, most annoying is that every single sentense from Brad/Michael Prince was translated to French very detailled (!). This slowed down the whole event a lot. Brad/Michael Prince could have talked much much more if they could have spoken non stop. But the breaks after every 3 sentences were just annoying. Come on, everyone speaks english. The average age was maybe mid 30 years. But I guess this is a typical french thing. Either french or nothing ^^ Yes, they are proud to be french. This the fanclub should have told before. I dont regret going there but I definately would not do it again because of the language thing.

    One advice: Dont expect any unreleased unheard exciting new material on such events anymore. Probably all the Brads and Michaels are too scared now that people record it and put it on Youtube or sell it even in low quality. I wont travel for such an event anymore. It is not worth it if you are more or less only interested in new material. maybe the Estate is also threatening them so they dont play new songs anymore. And the multitracks.. well, nice to hear, but only short snippets and mostly with one of them talking in between or playing keyboard ^^

    All in all 4/10 points from my side.
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    Default Re: MJ MusicDay in Lille (France) with Brad Buxer & Michael Prince

    Thank you, Gianni, for being there and for your account of the event.
    I am actually the person who did the translation from English to French so I am going to make a few things clearer.

    First, the concept of Brad Buxer playing keyboard live to the multitracks is his own thing, that he already presented at Brad Sundberg's seminars in Germany and in Los Angeles. He requested Michael Prince to be on his side to play multitracks or other material (that you didn't mention...) since he can't do it himself while playing keyboards.

    Second, the 2 "unreleased" songs were their own choice once again. "Days In Gloucestershire" was played in much better sound quality that the leaked version on the internet. The other song "Shut Up and Dance" is a demo that Michael Jackson liked a lot. It's pretty interesting to realize that he would ask soundalike singers to sing this kind of stuff.

    Regarding the "whole French thing", I think you are exaggerating it a little. The documentary and the director's talk and phone conversation with Bruce Swedien were in English. Plus Brad Buxer and Michael Prince's conference. Of course, this had to be translated into French because most French people there and more generally speaking in France DON'T speak English ! Believe me, I've been an English teacher for more than 15 years now and that's reality !

    About the breaks, they were made for the Meet & Greet sessions where 75 people had to go in and get their pictures and items signed. That's why we had to split them into 3 groups. So yes, other people had time to go through the collectors shops if they wanted to.

    The French writers talk at the beginning of the event was not translated into English on purpose in order not to waste more time. Their books are also in English so you could have a look during that talk. Plus they were among the staff and never took time to sell their own books : they were too busy dealing with the Meet & Greet sessions and letting people go out then in again and having their phones unlocked and locked again.

    Regarding the "langage thing" as you say, think about it and imagine French people not understanding anything that was said in English, just like you found annoying the part that was only in French. We actually tried to take everybody into consideration (people from different parts of Europe and the world) and make them enjoy the event at its most ! Sorry if that wasn't the case for you... Honestly, we just tried and did our best.

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    Default Re: MJ MusicDay in Lille (France) with Brad Buxer & Michael Prince

    Hey, thanks for your feedback. Please see my opinion below:

    Quote Originally Posted by Gertie View Post
    Thank you, Gianni, for being there and for your account of the event.
    I am actually the person who did the translation from English to French so I am going to make a few things clearer.

    First, the concept of Brad Buxer playing keyboard live to the multitracks is his own thing, that he already presented at Brad Sundberg's seminars in Germany and in Los Angeles. He requested Michael Prince to be on his side to play multitracks or other material (that you didn't mention...) since he can't do it himself while playing keyboards.
    OK, please dont see my complaining against you here. Of course this is in Brad's hands. But still a little annoying I think I am talking for most of the audience here

    Quote Originally Posted by Gertie View Post
    Second, the 2 "unreleased" songs were their own choice once again. "Days In Gloucestershire" was played in much better sound quality that the leaked version on the internet. The other song "Shut Up and Dance" is a demo that Michael Jackson liked a lot. It's pretty interesting to realize that he would ask soundalike singers to sing this kind of stuff.
    Also in Brad's/Michael Prince's hands but some other people from the audience also said that they know the songs since years and the second song was nice but not a MJ song. It was a song written for MJ with another voice. Big difference. I think most people expected much more for this part of the event.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gertie View Post
    Regarding the "whole French thing", I think you are exaggerating it a little. The documentary and the director's talk and phone conversation with Bruce Swedien were in English. Plus Brad Buxer and Michael Prince's conference. Of course, this had to be translated into French because most French people there and more generally speaking in France DON'T speak English ! Believe me, I've been an English teacher for more than 15 years now and that's reality !
    Yes, the documentary and the phone call was in english. And both really nice. I am really wondering about the english skills of the french people. I have been a lot of times in France during my whole life and I often noticed it. Still weird And sad! Especially the event could have been with much more information from Bad and Michael Prince. And their english was not that difficult to understand. I am also not native speaking english, but this was really easy to understand. But I know its very subjective.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gertie View Post
    About the breaks, they were made for the Meet & Greet sessions where 75 people had to go in and get their pictures and items signed. That's why we had to split them into 3 groups. So yes, other people had time to go through the collectors shops if they wanted to.
    Yes, I understand it and it made sense.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gertie View Post
    The French writers talk at the beginning of the event was not translated into English on purpose in order not to waste more time. Their books are also in English so you could have a look during that talk. Plus they were among the staff and never took time to sell their own books : they were too busy dealing with the Meet & Greet sessions and letting people go out then in again and having their phones unlocked and locked again.
    Well, at least the "host" of the show spoke very good english. but he never really did. Only some sentenses after a half an hour french talk. And even when he explained the procedure of how the Meet and Greets will be organized he only explained in french until more people asked him to please explain it in english.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gertie View Post
    Regarding the "langage thing" as you say, think about it and imagine French people not understanding anything that was said in English, just like you found annoying the part that was only in French. We actually tried to take everybody into consideration (people from different parts of Europe and the world) and make them enjoy the event at its most ! Sorry if that wasn't the case for you... Honestly, we just tried and did our best.
    I enjoyed the event and really appreciate your work. I can imagine how much stress it must have been for all of you. So thanks again. I really mean it. And I dont regret going there as I said before. But of course the language was a big problem which I did not consider before I bought the ticket. I thought, well 2 american producers come there so the event will be in english. Like in most other countires this would be the case

    Thanks again. I hope I dont sound offening.
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    Default Re: MJ MusicDay in Lille (France) with Brad Buxer & Michael Prince

    Can anybody recall any lyrics for Shut Up and Dance? Interesting that a soundalike was used.

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