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    Default Re: This Is It, was that really Michael Jackson?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dutchie View Post
    I don't know the context in which it was said but maybe they meant that the Michael they saw wasn't how they know him? Meaning frail, insecure and with slow speech at times?

    As for doubles, Michael has used them for his tours for years mainly for the tricks such as Thriller/Beat it. The person wearing the Thriller mask is not Michael. It's a double who is distracting the audience so Michael can quickly get ready and appear on the cherry picker for Beat It.

    Also, Michael sometimes used an impersonator to distract fans so he could leave his hotel unseen and go in a different direction.
    Do you know who were doubles for Michael, I see some crazy people claiming to be his double!

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    Do you know who were doubles for Michael, I see some crazy people claiming to be his double!
    The only one I know for sure is Earnest Valentino. He has worked for Michael on various occasions and was supposed to work with him again for This Is It.

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    Default Re: This Is It, was that really Michael Jackson?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dutchie View Post
    I don't know the context in which it was said but maybe they meant that the Michael they saw wasn't how they know him? Meaning frail, insecure and with slow speech at times?

    As for doubles, Michael has used them for his tours for years mainly for the tricks such as Thriller/Beat it. The person wearing the Thriller mask is not Michael. It's a double who is distracting the audience so Michael can quickly get ready and appear on the cherry picker for Beat It.

    Also, Michael sometimes used an impersonator to distract fans so he could leave his hotel unseen and go in a different direction.
    I undestand that. We all saw that something was odd! But it was clear to many fans that it was MJ after all.
    And yes most of us know MJ used dubbles.That is diffrent issue than Joe claims made for TII. JMO
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    The only one I know for sure is Earnest Valentino. He has worked for Michael on various occasions and was supposed to work with him again for This Is It.
    Ive actually watched some things today on you tube that he used Navi for a body double a few times. Apparently Navi left a hotel in China and was in a limo and he came out of the sunroof and waving at the fans and they were going crazy trying to climb on the limo. I think he could only get away with it with the face mask on though as Navi doesn't look 100% like Michael especially on the bottom part of the face.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutchie View Post
    The only one I know for sure is Earnest Valentino. He has worked for Michael on various occasions and was supposed to work with him again for This Is It.
    Aren't you confusing him with E'Casanova? He was in the Who Is It video, for instance. Navi indeed also apparently worked for MJ as a decoy a few times.

    Earnest Valentino was, as far as I know, only used posthumously as the hologram for that ill-fated Slave To The Rhythm performance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EmJ1979 View Post
    Ive actually watched some things today on you tube that he used Navi for a body double a few times. Apparently Navi left a hotel in China and was in a limo and he came out of the sunroof and waving at the fans and they were going crazy trying to climb on the limo. I think he could only get away with it with the face mask on though as Navi doesn't look 100% like Michael especially on the bottom part of the face.
    Quote Originally Posted by SoCav View Post
    Aren't you confusing him with E'Casanova? He was in the Who Is It video, for instance. Navi indeed also apparently worked for MJ as a decoy a few times.

    Earnest Valentino was, as far as I know, only used posthumously as the hologram for that ill-fated Slave To The Rhythm performance.
    Earnest Valentino has worked for Michael on different occasions including working as the official representative for Michael's Mystery Drink launched in 1997.

    Navi can't possibly have been used as a body double since his body looks nothing like Michael's. They are not the same height and Navi's body looks very different from Michael's.
    Last edited by Dutchie; 09-10-2017 at 06:07 PM.

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    Default Re: This Is It, was that really Michael Jackson?

    how old is Earnest? I guess he must be older than I thought, older than he looks..
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    Who were the body doubles used for the Super Bowl show?

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    how old is Earnest? I guess he must be older than I thought, older than he looks..
    He is 52 years old.

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    Default Re: This Is It, was that really Michael Jackson?

    Earnest is another favorite double of mine.
    He always seems a nice guy. I'm shocked as i didn't think he was much older as well... 52.
    Wow, looks amazing!

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    Default Re: This Is It, was that really Michael Jackson?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dutchie View Post
    Earnest Valentino has worked for Michael on different occasions including working as the official representative for Michael's Mystery Drink launched in 1997.

    Navi can't possibly have been used as a body double since his body looks nothing like Michael's. They are not the same height and Navi's body looks very different from Michael's.
    Didn't know that about EV, thanks.

    Regarding Navi:
    https://youtu.be/RdSTg9rMrfI

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutchie View Post
    Earnest Valentino has worked for Michael on different occasions including working as the official representative for Michael's Mystery Drink launched in 1997.

    Navi can't possibly have been used as a body double since his body looks nothing like Michael's. They are not the same height and Navi's body looks very different from Michael's.
    Go on to Navi videos on you tube he states and shows the videos of where he doubled for MJ. I didn't know this until I watched it

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    I have no desire to watch any videos of Navi, but thanks anyway guys

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    Default Re: This Is It, was that really Michael Jackson?

    ^ Just curious, are you "anti Navi" or somethnig? lol! just interesting..
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    Quote Originally Posted by KOPV View Post
    ^ Just curious, are you "anti Navi" or somethnig? lol! just interesting..
    Yes.

    I don't appreciate how he presents himself, how he sets bad examples for MJ fans by openly bashing other impersonators and/or fans, and placing himself above them even though he clearly lacks talent and integrity. Just my opinion.
    Last edited by Dutchie; 10-10-2017 at 08:17 PM.

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