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    Default Dangerous: Earlier version of the album tracklist

    VictorMacBernik postet this in another thread. What is know about this?



    I just found these notes that I took, the first time MJ came into our office at Gallin Morey, and played his newly completed “Dangerous” album. He played it in our conference room and blasted it as loud as it would go. I had goosebumps listening to all of the songs! I wrote down what I thought the names of the songs were. Lol. As you can see, I got a few of them wrong. These were the songs that Michael originally submitted to go on the album...and they all sounded AMAZING. I guess it kind of helped that he was there while it was playing. “Give In To Me” stood out the most for me in this session. The lyrics were more bold, sexy and powerful than anything he had ever recorded. I think I was too stunned to even write that one down, but I will never forget it. I was in a daze of excitement.
    Shana Mangatal

    Do we have more information about this specific day when MJ came into that office at Gallin Morey?
    What date was it?
    Is she a reliable source?
    What is known about the mentioned tracks that didn't make the album in the end?

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    Default Re: Dangerous: Earlier version of the album tracklist

    "Get Up" = "Jam"
    "Lying To Myself" = "Who Is It"
    "Out Of The Closet" = early title for "In The Closet" (when MJ wanted a duet with Madonna)

    last 2 songs are incomplete demos

    According to Shana MIB was 6 minutes. Well, that's the same playtime of what Bryan Loren played in France, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Korgnex View Post
    "Get Up" = "Jam"
    "Lying To Myself" = "Who Is It"
    "Out Of The Closet" = early title for "In The Closet" (when MJ wanted a duet with Madonna)

    last 2 songs are incomplete demos

    According to Shana MIB was 6 minutes. Well, that's the same playtime of what Bryan Loren played in France, too.
    Very interesting! Thank you!
    Do you also know when this took place?
    I wonder when WYBT, WYWTOM and SDMW were recorded
    Before that listening event or afterwards

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slave To The Rhythm View Post
    Is she a reliable source?
    I cannot tell about the validity of her alleged romance with MJ, but when it comes to stuff like that Shana Mangatal is a reliable source because of her access to many exclusive areas at that time.

    She also revealed the reasons behind the use of an impersonator on the ‘Who Is It’ music video & also why that video came out with two different official versions.

    As the secretary at the Gallin Morey company during that period, she definitely knows a lot of exclusive, reliable information concerning the ‘Dangerous’ era (album, music videos, tour, etc).

    About ‘In The Closet’, the original title of that song was ‘Coming Out Of The Closet’.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mj_frenzy View Post
    I cannot tell about the validity of her alleged romance with MJ, but when it comes to stuff like that Shana Mangatal is a reliable source because of her access to many exclusive areas at that time.

    She also revealed the reasons behind the use of an impersonator on the ‘Who Is It’ music video & also why that video came out with two different official versions.

    As the secretary at the Gallin Morey company during that period, she definitely knows a lot of exclusive, reliable information concerning the ‘Dangerous’ era (album, music videos, tour, etc).

    About ‘In The Closet’, the original title of that song was ‘Coming Out Of The Closet’.
    Interesting. Can you tell us about the who is it stuff??

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    Quote Originally Posted by MJTruth View Post
    Interesting. Can you tell us about the who is it stuff??
    MJ was not satisfied with the way he looked on the ‘Who Is It’ music video, while the shooting of that video was still in process.

    He telephoned Mangatal immediately. He asked her if it was possible to change the way he looked on that video (in the post-production stage, or, even by re-shooting it from scratch).

    Mangatal contacted Sandy Gallin about MJ’s request. Sandy, in turn, contacted Sony.

    But Sony refused to re-shoot that video (or to make changes in the post-production stage) because its shooting had already cost a fortune.

    So, MJ decided not to shoot the rest of that video’s scenes, resulting in the use of an impersonator by David Fincher (who was the director) for those remaining scenes.

    MJ also asked from Sony to re-shoot his first scenes but Sony refused again. These disagreements eventually led also to that version of the ‘Who Is It’ video that first aired in the USA (which was a mixture of past music videos & live performances).

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    Wow thanks for the information.

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    So what about WYWTOM, She Drives Me Wild and Will You Be There
    When were they recorded?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mj_frenzy View Post
    MJ was not satisfied with the way he looked on the ‘Who Is It’ music video, while the shooting of that video was still in process.

    He telephoned Mangatal immediately. He asked her if it was possible to change the way he looked on that video (in the post-production stage, or, even by re-shooting it from scratch).

    Mangatal contacted Sandy Gallin about MJ’s request. Sandy, in turn, contacted Sony.

    But Sony refused to re-shoot that video (or to make changes in the post-production stage) because its shooting had already cost a fortune.

    So, MJ decided not to shoot the rest of that video’s scenes, resulting in the use of an impersonator by David Fincher (who was the director) for those remaining scenes.

    MJ also asked from Sony to re-shoot his first scenes but Sony refused again. These disagreements eventually led also to that version of the ‘Who Is It’ video that first aired in the USA (which was a mixture of past music videos & live performances).
    Karen Faye that Michael had a job to complete that's why he didn't shoot the rest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Korgnex View Post
    "Get Up" = "Jam"
    "Lying To Myself" = "Who Is It"
    "Out Of The Closet" = early title for "In The Closet" (when MJ wanted a duet with Madonna)

    last 2 songs are incomplete demos

    According to Shana MIB was 6 minutes. Well, that's the same playtime of what Bryan Loren played in France, too.
    How do you know that this two songs are Jam et Who is it.
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    So 1 november is the date that Black Or White should be released ?

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    When did she take those notes? Do we have a date?? Can anyone help me??

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    Can no one give me more information on that listening event? Any sources for that? Can't find something in Google. Really want to know more about it.
    On what date did Michael submitted this tracklist?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Slave To The Rhythm View Post
    Can no one give me more information on that listening event? Any sources for that? Can't find something in Google. Really want to know more about it.
    On what date did Michael submitted this tracklist?


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    We don't know man. It's just a photo Shana mangatal posted.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Korgnex View Post
    "Get Up" = "Jam"
    "Lying To Myself" = "Who Is It"
    "Out Of The Closet" = early title for "In The Closet" (when MJ wanted a duet with Madonna)

    last 2 songs are incomplete demos

    According to Shana MIB was 6 minutes. Well, that's the same playtime of what Bryan Loren played in France, too.
    I believe you no question but how do you know that Get Up and Lying To Myself are those two songs? I can't hear the word Get Up in the Jam demo once even tho it sounds logical and who is it also doesn't include this phrase in it's lyrics

    Thanks in advance!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slave To The Rhythm View Post
    I believe you no question but how do you know that Get Up and Lying To Myself are those two songs? I can't hear the word Get Up in the Jam demo once even tho it sounds logical and who is it also doesn't include this phrase in it's lyrics

    Thanks in advance!!

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