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    Default Re: Sundance Festival 2019 Carrying MJ Molestation Doc

    What if we got all the fans not to watch it to bring them the lowest ratings ever

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    Quote Originally Posted by Staffordshire Bullterrier View Post
    Is there a website or a summary of the things about Safechuck and Robson? From when their allegations started to when the judge dismissed it? I'd like to have this next time I'm talking to someone who will absolutely fire up this topic to me next time I'm seeing him/them, so I can tell them to read that and bring themselves up to date about it instead of just eating it all up as "news" or even "facts"?
    SERIOUSLY?

    Michael Jackson - FBI Investigative Files Released:
    1/ https://archives.fbi.gov/archives/ne...jackson_122209
    2/ https://vault.fbi.gov/Michael%20Jackson

    By https://themichaeljacksonallegations.com:
    The Wade Robson Allegations (summary version)
    https://themichaeljacksonallegations...n-allegations/

    The 1993 Chandler Allegations (summary version)
    https://themichaeljacksonallegations...mmary-version/

    The 2005 Arvizo Allegations (summary version)
    https://themichaeljacksonallegations...o-allegations/

    Jason Francia (summary version)
    https://themichaeljacksonallegations...mmary-version/

    By DAILY MICHAEL : http://dailymichael.com/lawsuits/robson-v-estate

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    Default Re: Sundance Festival 2019 Carrying MJ Molestation Doc

    Lets recollect the facts....


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    Wade Robson gave an interview to Inside Edition on May 26 2018 where he claimed the following

    The lies Wade Robson told ... by on Scribd


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    Default Re: Sundance Festival 2019 Carrying MJ Molestation Doc

    Quote Originally Posted by kai View Post
    I wonder if the parents of Wade Robson are proud of their son...
    Of course Joy is very proud, she along with the rest of the family were/are hoping for a big pay day $$$$$$$$ and I bet she will be front and centre in this 4 hour crap fest!

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    Keep Calm & Listen to MJ

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    This isn't good at all. Finally when the narrative in the public seemed to be turning in our favour this fiasco is going to set everyone back years and possibly decades. To have a HBO documentary aired around the world with interviews from men who claim they were molested by MJ, plus the Channel 1 in the UK, plus a movie screening.... the press will be ALL over this. The US and UK media especially have always loved to jump on any anti MJ train. You could swear they have an agenda to bring him down. Any positive news about Michael's accomplishments or music is ignored, while the controversy is picked up like some prime time presidential address. This is going to ignite a social media storm (Twitter is already going wild over it and the video is weeks away from being seen). Here is just my guess of the fallout:

    -MJ's Cirque Du Soleil will be cancelled by years end in Vegas
    -Michael Jackson's Halloween special will be cancelled by CBS
    -MJ's radio play will see a downturn in the US especially
    -MJ's album sales will decrease in 2019 especially in the UK, US and Canada due to the negative coverage
    -Any future projects planned for 2019 will be canned/shelved including single releases/duets, etc.
    -Nobody will be able to bring up Michael in a conversation without someone in the group/party bringing this up


    All in all, this is a nightmare come true. I feel like we are back in 2004/2005 all over again. Only that time, there was no video of anyone claiming Michael abused them. Now we have a 2+ hour documentary with two separate boys with a detailed explanation of what happened. Its going to hit the public hard and Im sure the media will be obsessing over it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by travis3000 View Post

    All in all, this is a nightmare come true. I feel like we are back in 2004/2005 all over again. Only that time, there was no video of anyone claiming Michael abused them. Now we have a 2+ hour documentary with two separate boys with a detailed explanation of what happened. Its going to hit the public hard and Im sure the media will be obsessing over it.
    Well, Michael have a judicial ruling that he is innocent.
    The duo have only have their tongue to tell stories,
    The strange thing is that the two channels violate the ruling of the judiciary.
    Only the judge is able to assess the validity of their stories.
    I'm sure Its going to hit the public hard..
    King of performing. No one will be like MJ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverstone View Post
    Funded by the Estate,not made by them!
    The whole point is to have people who are not seen as biased come forward....easier said than done I know but that would be the main factor behind any documentary that was a reality of being made.

    Would it be aired?Yes I don't doubt it if it was a fantastically made film that put a proper spanner in the works with stories from credible people.
    Funded by the estate is the same as them doing it.those that fund dictate the the contents.be crazy for estate to fund something they would have no say over. It would be viewed as credible as political groups that pay think tanks to do a study that shock horror supports the view of the political group that is paying them to carry out the study!

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    Does someone remember why Jordan Chandler did not testify at the 2005 trial? I wish Michael's defense team would have pushed hard for him to testifty and to get a chance to question him. That might have been the only chance to ever hear Chandler speak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wednesday View Post
    Does someone remember why Jordan Chandler did not testify at the 2005 trial? I wish Michael's defense team would have pushed hard for him to testifty and to get a chance to question him. That might have been the only chance to ever hear Chandler speak.
    I don’t know why he didn’t testify but it speaks volumes to me that he didn’t.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ILoveHIStory View Post
    SERIOUSLY?

    Michael Jackson - FBI Investigative Files Released:
    1/ https://archives.fbi.gov/archives/ne...jackson_122209
    2/ https://vault.fbi.gov/Michael%20Jackson

    By https://themichaeljacksonallegations.com:
    The Wade Robson Allegations (summary version)
    https://themichaeljacksonallegations...n-allegations/

    The 1993 Chandler Allegations (summary version)
    https://themichaeljacksonallegations...mmary-version/

    The 2005 Arvizo Allegations (summary version)
    https://themichaeljacksonallegations...o-allegations/

    Jason Francia (summary version)
    https://themichaeljacksonallegations...mmary-version/

    By DAILY MICHAEL : http://dailymichael.com/lawsuits/robson-v-estate

    By VINDICATING MICHAEL : https://vindicatemj.wordpress.com + VERITAS PROJECT: https://vindicatemj.wordpress.com/veritas-project/

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    Thanks for this. I was aware of everything concerning Chandler and Arvizo, but not Safechuck and Robson. I mostly want it for when/if I get into a discussion with a friend or relative about this.

    Why don't MJ's children or one of his brothers make a statement on TV right before this stinking ass documentary airs at Sundance with at least the facts we know about Robson and Safechuck, like someone earlier here said, Judge thrown the cases out, forged evidence was submitted. Let the people know this. I'm sure the news will cover it if someone from Mike's family has a statement to make and people will see this and at least know this before seeing that ridiculous trash.

    I don't get it why they don't do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wednesday View Post
    Does someone remember why Jordan Chandler did not testify at the 2005 trial? I wish Michael's defense team would have pushed hard for him to testifty and to get a chance to question him. That might have been the only chance to ever hear Chandler speak.
    He kept himself abroad and never gave a reason why he didn’t testify. There are so many other things that says a lot about the Chandlers as well like Evan sued MJ again in 96 and wanted more money and to release his own album (!) Evanstory because Michael released the history album. Jordan got legal emancipation before he was 18, Michaels lawyer said he had people willing to testify that he told the he had never been molested and he was never going to speak to his parents again because of what they had made him do.But Jordan, then 25, now 38 kept himself abroad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wednesday View Post
    Does someone remember why Jordan Chandler did not testify at the 2005 trial? I wish Michael's defense team would have pushed hard for him to testifty and to get a chance to question him. That might have been the only chance to ever hear Chandler speak.
    Sneddon wanted gim to testify but he threatended them saying he would take them to court if they tried to subpeona (sp) him. You cant force a abuse "victim" to testify like others. If he had mez had many of his friends prepaired to testify that he had told them that mj did nothing how he played mjs music at parties etc

    Imo the only chance of jc telling the trith was after evan killed himself but that boat is long sailed
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    Default Re: Sundance Festival 2019 Carrying MJ Molestation Doc

    don't get it why they don't do that.
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    Because it will give the programme huge publicity.give it many more ratings.give them exactly what they want. Giving it more attention is not a good thing.the problem with saying a judge dismissed is doesnt help with dealing with the haters as it wasnt thrown out because it was provern lies it was thrown out based on trying to sue entities that werent allowed etc. All points of law.

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