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    Default Elizabeth Taylor was Bad Influence in Michael's Life

    Hello, I am new to the site. I have been reading a lot about Michael Jackson's life and something dawned on me. In my opinion: Elizabeth Taylor was a major factor in Michael's downfall. I read in some of Michael's biographies that Elizabeth was the person to introduce Michael to prescription drugs. I also read that Michael's parent felt it was Elizabeth that got their son hooked on prescription drugs. They did not like Elizabeth in Michael's life. Chandler's father (don't know if you can believe him, but) also said that Michael told him that Elizabeth said the drug just makes you feel happy. Conrad Murray (also don't know if you can believe him) also stated that Elizabeth Taylor was the one to introduce these drugs to Michael.
    Remember, after the Pepsi accident I read in Michael's biography that he REFUSED painkillers because of his Jehovah's Witness beliefs. If prescription drugs led to Michael's death, and she was the one to introduce it, then she is responsible for Michael's gradual downfall. She herself is addicted. I believe Elizabeth was a bad influence in Michael's life.

    Michael met Elizabeth around 1984??(please correct). Things seemed to started to unravel around this time. I read somewhere that it was Elizabeth that encouraged Michael to move out of his parents home. If Michael never moved out he would not have had children all around him for them to accuse him of stuff. Living at home offered him some level of protection. I understand why he may have wanted to move out. But living with parents might have saved him from those allegations. Neverland was very expensive to upkeep. Did she encourage him to build something so unaffordable (my speculation)? All this didn't help Michael financially. Again, a terrible influence it seems.

    It was also Elizabeth that told him to - lightened up (relax, basically), get in touch with his inner child. In a video footage she said it took her 5 years to get Michael to celebrate Christmas. Seems odd. If someone doesn't feel comfortable celebrating Christmas, why would you keep at it for 5 years? Doesn't sound like something a real friend would do. A real friend respects each others likes and dislikes. Michael later said that he cried in the bathroom after celebrating his first Christmas, because he felt he did something wrong. The Bible says that "for whatsoever is not of faith is sin". When Michael finally celebrated Christmas in 1993, then shortly after all the allegations started. Perhaps it was a spiritually judgment of some kind???? (I don't know, just thinking) Again, this shows Elizabeth was not a good influence on his life. She seemed like a narcissist slowing chiseling away at Michael's beliefs, instead of respecting them.

    Michael also made lots of donations to her AIDS charity. He also bought for her lots of expensive jewelry. He might of paid for her 1.5 million dollar wedding at his Estate. It also seemed Michael had to foot the bill in some instances. (The bills for Marlon Brando and Elizabeth at Michael's NYC Anniversay). I suspect Michael spent a lot of money on her. It is reported that Michael bribed her with diamonds to make her to go events with her. That doesn't sound like a real friend at all. Seemed like she was using him, instead of helping him.

    Michael and Elizabeth seemed to have an unhealthy bond. Michael's song "Elizabeth I Love You" was very strange to me. The songs ends with "I pray one day I'll be just like... you." It just doesn't sound healthy to me at all. Does anyone know more about their relationship? Did she cast a spell on Michael or something?To me it seemed Elizabeth casted some kind of spell on Michael. Maybe a kind of narcissistic stronghold on Michael for whatever reasons. Maybe using their similar childhoods to attach Michael to her. In a biography, it reported that Michael's mother felt Elizabeth stole Michael from her. Some kind of unhealthy attachment. Maybe Elizabeth was the one to fuel this idea that Michael lost his childhood, and kept fueling it, for her advantage to keep Michael close to her. I think real friend would have sympathized with Michael's childhood, grieved with him and then encouraged him not to be a victim from it but to become stronger by it.

    I think Elizabeth
    -introduced prescription drugs to Michael which eventually led to his addiction and death.
    -encouraged him to leave home, which open his life up to all kinds of predators, including herself. (remember, Michael is still a child at heart and did not know how to protect himself. He tried to think the best in people, I think.)
    -unconsciously had Michael spend a small (or perhaps large) fortune on her and her charity. Maybe even spend money to impress her. Used him for his money??
    -Slowly chiseled away at his spiritual beliefs.

    All in all after reading so much about Michael, I feel Elizabeth Taylor was a bad influence on Michael's life at led to his gradual downfall. Everything bad that eventually happened to Michael, seemed to have started with some kind of influence from her.

    What do you guys feel about this?

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    Default Re: Elizabeth Taylor was Bad Influence in Michael's Life

    How could you even think that? I doubt she’s responsible to give Michael any downfall, she’s very supportive and protective to Michael. Don’t believe in that such bulls.
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    Default Re: Elizabeth Taylor was Bad Influence in Michael's Life

    I think their relationship was too deep and complex to dissect it in a single post. While there was some enabling tendancies (as many relationships do) she loved that man and was there for him in every way she knew how and was there at times no one else was..

    For that we should all be so very thankful

    At least from my perspective
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    Default Re: Elizabeth Taylor was Bad Influence in Michael's Life

    The same Elizabeth Taylor who helped get him to rehab. Right. What biographies are you talking about specifically? Sounds like tabloid crap to me.
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    The same Elizabeth Taylor who flew straight out to him in August 1993. The same Elizabeth Taylor who made him go to rehab.

    Elizabeth Taylor was there for Michael before his own family in 1993 and I've never forgotten that. She was a true friend.

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    Elizabeth Taylor was one of the few celebrity friends who supported him publicly when it mattered.
    She stood by him in every crisis.

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    Default Re: Elizabeth Taylor was Bad Influence in Michael's Life

    I cannot believe that people would think she was a bad influence. She was an incredibly kind-hearted woman who was loyal to her friends, and stood by them in times of need. Her defence and support of her friend Rock Hudson in the wake of the 80s AIDS crisis was a defining moment for her character. She was an excellent friend to MJ, and I would guess that her influence helped to 'ground' him at times.

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    Default Re: Elizabeth Taylor was Bad Influence in Michael's Life

    Liz defend MJ after his death too. She used to tweet about him. Here's a very upsetting example: https://twitter.com/ElizabethTaylor/status/1785761368


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    Default Re: Elizabeth Taylor was Bad Influence in Michael's Life

    Oh can please someone post a screenshot of this cause I have sadly reached my limit today to read twitter as a non user.
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    Default Re: Elizabeth Taylor was Bad Influence in Michael's Life

    Carrie Fisher admits to her drug problem, which is why she went to Evan Chandler and his anesthesiologist. Evan and his partner fed drugs to their patients. Eliizabeth Taylor was once a step-mother to Carrie Fisher. Carrie doesn't mention Elizabeth getting her hooked on drugs.

    Elizabeth met her final husband in rehab. This is why she went and helped her friend, Michael Jackson, when he was having problems with self-medicating, while on tour, in which neither Evan, Jordy or June ended up going on with Michael Jackson. Nope...they were too busy hatching their E X T O R T I O N plot on Michael Jackson. Michael was no more Mr. Nice Guy (Alice Cooper song) when he realized that's what the trio was up to!


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    In the biography "Elizabeth and Michael: The Queen of Hollywood and the King of Pop" the author claims that often Elizabeth would refused to go to an event with Michael unless he gifted her with diamonds. That does NOT sound like a friend at all. Anyone who does that is using you. Period.

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    I did not say Elizabeth was "plotting evil" against Michael, just that she was a bad influence. Someone can be very kind to you and make you feel good, but they may not be a good influence on your life. Her own constant addiction certainly wouldn't make for a good influence on ANYONE with an addiction. I would imagine two alcoholics would love being together and think to themselves - only this person truly understands me. But that doesn't make this person a GOOD influence on your life.

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    You shouldnt believe all you read. Best thing to ever happen to mj.

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    Default Re: Elizabeth Taylor was Bad Influence in Michael's Life

    And you just automatically believed it? I learned a long time ago not to believe a lot of what these Michael Jackson biographies say.

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    Default Re: Elizabeth Taylor was Bad Influence in Michael's Life

    Is this thread for real? Elizabeth Taylor was one of Michael's very few friends who supported him through thick and thin. She was there for Michael in his darkest hour. In fact, at times she was there for him more than Michael's own family was. How can you even make this thread?

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