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    I don't remember this being posted before, but the other day I came across Pete Burns's book in the library and his perspective on MJ is quite interesting. So I've just typed it up to share with you and spark a little discussion:

    Michael Jackson:

    I couldn't follow his trial in 2005 because I was in Italy, so we saw the re-enactment on Court TV. I'd got the book Michael Jackson Was My Lover by Jordi Chandler, years before, and a legal book by somebody who had gone to live in the Dominican Republic because he'd done so much investigation. I found the Chandler book shocking, horrifying, and I saw the Bashir documentary and I just knew they were making a character to suit what they perceived a pedophile looked like. I had also just read extensively about Marie Antoinette and I just thought it really was 'Let's storm the Bastille and pull him from his tower and behead him and root through his belongings.' I thought it was absolutely horrifying but also riveting as well. What did he feel like every day? He could have gone to jail for life. How must he feel now? It must be awful for him. But I think the public know he's innocent - it's just the corporate people who think, 'Right... out!'

    The people who think he got away with it - they're just the people with the loudest voices, the ******s. He's non-sexual. The case fell to pieces, and therefore he is innocent. Do the public think that pedophiles have noses like thorns on a rose bud, and wear over-dyed wigs and white foundation? Is that what a pedophile looks like? I beg to differ. They come in many shapes and sizes and many different guises.

    Michael Jackson's plastic surgery, it's a work of art. All the photos you've seen of his nose falling off are just Photoshopped. They're not mishaps. That, to me, is some kind of art statement that he's making. The top half of his face is very feminised and the lower half has been over-masculinised - it's like a jigsaw of genders and I wish he could explain that articulately. He's without sex or gender, Michael Jackson, and there are times when I think he is perfectly stunningly beautiful. I think his make-up artist needs shooting, because they just make it all look worse.

    I think he just doesn't want anyone close to him. I think he's very self-conscious and trying to guard his image so, consequently, people who are highly inept are keeping him out of reality and I don't think he knows what to do.

    I think that the media were putting his plastic surgery and his lifestyle on trial; the kid was nothing to do with it. Suddenly, the public, like ****ing harpies, could possibly get a tour around his house and see him without the make-up and the wig. They wanted to storm Neverland - 'Off with his head! Oh, did you abuse the kid? Oh, sorry, we forgot...' Had he been Tupac Shakur and surrounded by women with cannonball boobs in a Jacuzzi and Mai-Tai cocktails with umbrellas in them, they'd have thought it was great. But, because Jackson is surrounded by jack-in-the-boxes and Andy Pandy dolls, people found that really creepy.

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    Wow I love Pete even more ... Dude just spun me round, like a record baby, right round, round round

    Spot on !!

    Thanks for posting that

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    I like Pete Burns. He understands really well what MJ went through. Thanks.
    Mr Jackson was very strong and powerful, and he was scary in a way, but not without a sense of humour, although it was clear that all the children had a huge amount of respect for their dad.
    'I had a set opinion of the family beforehand and, because my perception of them changed while making the film, ...They came across as a steady, committed family, whereas it was the people around them who were scrabbling in the dirt. British reporter.

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    intersting i dont know how this man is but he knows how to use his words
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    Nice words. I remember Pete Burns on Celebrity Big Brother, talking about how his lips exploded after too much surgery
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    Quote Originally Posted by MJJHIStory View Post
    Nice words. I remember Pete Burns on Celebrity Big Brother, talking about how his lips exploded after too much surgery
    True. He did have a lot of surgery too. But he is a very nice guy and very intelligent. All of that stuff was just a cover to hide behind I think.
    Mr Jackson was very strong and powerful, and he was scary in a way, but not without a sense of humour, although it was clear that all the children had a huge amount of respect for their dad.
    'I had a set opinion of the family beforehand and, because my perception of them changed while making the film, ...They came across as a steady, committed family, whereas it was the people around them who were scrabbling in the dirt. British reporter.

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    wow, thanks for posting, very interesting read.
    put a smile on my face

    and thank you mr burns, for sharing so openly

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    mmmmmmmmmm intresting... I like pete burns now lol
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    That's one helluva piece written...the best Ive read in a very long time.

    amazing. thanks for bringing this to our attention.

    who is pete burns...Id lke to learn more about him.

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    Last edited by Remyisme; 31-08-2008 at 05:10 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StarTrader View Post
    I don't remember this being posted before, but the other day I came across Pete Burns's book in the library and his perspective on MJ is quite interesting. So I've just typed it up to share with you and spark a little discussion:

    Michael Jackson:

    I couldn't follow his trial in 2005 because I was in Italy, so we saw the re-enactment on Court TV. I'd got the book Michael Jackson Was My Lover by Jordi Chandler, years before, and a legal book by somebody who had gone to live in the Dominican Republic because he'd done so much investigation. I found the Chandler book shocking, horrifying, and I saw the Bashir documentary and I just knew they were making a character to suit what they perceived a pedophile looked like. I had also just read extensively about Marie Antoinette and I just thought it really was 'Let's storm the Bastille and pull him from his tower and behead him and root through his belongings.' I thought it was absolutely horrifying but also riveting as well. What did he feel like every day? He could have gone to jail for life. How must he feel now? It must be awful for him. But I think the public know he's innocent - it's just the corporate people who think, 'Right... out!'

    The people who think he got away with it - they're just the people with the loudest voices, the ******s. He's non-sexual. The case fell to pieces, and therefore he is innocent. Do the public think that pedophiles have noses like thorns on a rose bud, and wear over-dyed wigs and white foundation? Is that what a pedophile looks like? I beg to differ. They come in many shapes and sizes and many different guises.

    Michael Jackson's plastic surgery, it's a work of art. All the photos you've seen of his nose falling off are just Photoshopped. They're not mishaps. That, to me, is some kind of art statement that he's making. The top half of his face is very feminised and the lower half has been over-masculinised - it's like a jigsaw of genders and I wish he could explain that articulately. He's without sex or gender, Michael Jackson, and there are times when I think he is perfectly stunningly beautiful. I think his make-up artist needs shooting, because they just make it all look worse.

    I think he just doesn't want anyone close to him. I think he's very self-conscious and trying to guard his image so, consequently, people who are highly inept are keeping him out of reality and I don't think he knows what to do.

    I think that the media were putting his plastic surgery and his lifestyle on trial; the kid was nothing to do with it. Suddenly, the public, like ****ing harpies, could possibly get a tour around his house and see him without the make-up and the wig. They wanted to storm Neverland - 'Off with his head! Oh, did you abuse the kid? Oh, sorry, we forgot...' Had he been Tupac Shakur and surrounded by women with cannonball boobs in a Jacuzzi and Mai-Tai cocktails with umbrellas in them, they'd have thought it was great. But, because Jackson is surrounded by jack-in-the-boxes and Andy Pandy dolls, people found that really creepy.

    while i find some of these things agreeable..and i disagree with other things he said...i find the whole thing interesting, and have nothing negative to say about the guy. and i must say..he is poetic. and i certainly appreciate the gist of his message. thanks for posting. he is spot on about what the enemies were trying to do to Michael, and why.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TeharaMJ View Post
    That's one helluva piece written...the best Ive read in a very long time.

    amazing. thanks for bringing this to our attention.
    He is the lead singer of an 80s British New Wave band called Dead or Alive, the band are most famously known for their hit single "You spin me round (like a record)" http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=CMwdAc1Dzfg. He is also looked upon as a 'freak' because of his extensive plastic surgery and he's been on a few reality TV shows in the UK and personality wise; he likes to dress flamboyantly and he's quite an outspoken person. I quite like him though!

    On his wikipage it also mentions this about MJ:

    In December 2003, the BBC apologised to its viewers after Burns swore repeatedly on its pre-9pm watershed Liquid Newsshow when asked about his views on the Michael Jackson trial.

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    First I was like: I have never heard of this guy, but some of the music I've heard before. Still quite unknown to me. He's like Marilyn Manson. Or MM is like him.
    Quote Originally Posted by StarTrader View Post

    On his wikipage it also mentions this about MJ:

    In December 2003, the BBC apologised to its viewers after Burns swore repeatedly on its pre-9pm watershed Liquid Newsshow when asked about his views on the Michael Jackson trial.
    Why? What did he say about the trial?

    About that article what Pete Burns wrote I agree with vncwilliam. I can't agree with some of the things he says but I rather read this than a piece written by an average journalist who knows nothing about Michael Jackson.
    Last edited by raingirl; 31-08-2008 at 07:11 PM.


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    He's non-sexual?

    Uhhh, I dunno about that....





    How does he know what his sexuality is like, anyway? :O Suspicious...

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    You guys aren't looking at it from an average Joe's perspective though, you look at it from an obsessed fans perspective. I don't think Pete Burns has spent hundreds of hours analysing every detail of MJ's life behind a computer screen, he's just giving his own perspective from afar and from what the media have shown of MJ, which for the most part Pete's analysis is pretty accurate and intelligent. It just goes to show that not everyone is a sheep! You have to also take in to account that he's come to these conclusions from only having very little knowledge of the trial, watching the Bashir documentary and reading two crap books full of lies.

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