Investigations and what I think about it....

Hello, dear friends!
This is my first post here. I call all of you “dear friends” because it’s just cannot be any different than that in Michael Jackson’s forum. I think MJ fans are very special people and it is because MJ was a very special human being ever walked on this planet. I am here because I have something important to say and to share my feelings and my thoughts with you. English is not my first language but I will try to do my best and I hope you will be patient reading this.
Well, tell you what? I’ve never been “hardcore” MJ's fan, but I always had a little place for him in my heard. The news about his tragic death was shocking and I just couldn’t stop crying for a few days and I still didn’t recover.. I didn’t expect that kind of reaction from myself. It is really heartbreaking and painful. It tells me that Michael Jackson was much more than just King of Pop. .
I just wanted to say something about investigations and how I feel about it. Let say, first of all, when this terrible news came out I was absolutely positive that this is a murder. I could feel it almost through my skin. And it is no way that I am trying to say that I am a super psychic, but I have some sort of gift which gives me ability to feel crime. It appears like pictures in my mind, words from nowhere plus my logic. I have this kind of sensitivity or “smell” to find out that something is not right. And it doesn’t matter what is that financial fraud or another type of crime. Honestly I wish to have another gift, but I have just this one. Sorry.
So, I want you to know that Michael case is 100% murder. And it is not a second degree murder it was planned for many years (not months) by very powerful group of conspiracy.
I am sure that doctors are involved even dentists (they have to check dentists as well).But it just a tip of iceberg. I hope, that people who behind it will go to jail eventually. I feel that Doctor Conrad Murray wasn’t the guy who wanted to kill MJ.. Just some people trying to make him look like that. There is a possibility that something was going on in the house before, because as you know, all tapes from video cameras suddenly disappeared.
Now let’s take a look at Michael’s “friends”. Honestly I do not trust even one of them.
1. Elizabeth Taylor was the closest friend to MJ for YEARS who had to help him if there any problems. I believe she knew that something is not right. She wasn’t blind right? Also, I feel that Elizabeth Taylor had some sort of feelings to Michael based on her sexual interest but she didn’t get any respond from him. So, she probably just didn’t care or she cared too much and finally introduced him to the “right” specialist. Sometimes people can wear a very friendly mask for a long time.
I do not trust her at all because she was the one who recommended Michael Dr. Arnold Kline’s clinic. I believe, she knew that Michael has problems with drug addiction. I think, she decided just let it go.
2. Dr. Kline and his assistant Debbie Rowe are both involved. Those two people have been working together for years. I think they played on somebody’s side as well trying to find some weak points in MJ personality and health conditions, providing incorrect treatment. It looks freaking strange that Dr. Kline could be a physiological father of two older kids like he said lately! It seems like Debbie Rowe and Dr. Kline just put those kids to Michael Jackson house to get millions of dollars from him. Now they have a chance to get kids and money together. Amazing!
3. Well I am going to discuss the most important figure in this huge mess. His name is Uri Geller. I can smell trough my skin that this guy is freaking asshole. I do not trust this guy even one split second! First of all this person has a VERY specific background. Uri Geller was born in Israel and he is related to a very famous crazy psychiatrist Sigismund Freud on his mother side. Sigismund Freud also was a specialist on dream analysis and hypnosis. Uri Geller has paranormal abilities and he used hypnosis in his practice as well. He was trained in Israel and during cold war with USSR this person used to work for FBI and other similar organizations. Once he was trying to clear up some secret files in KGB servers. I do not think that he was able to do this but his brain was tasted in special “brain institution” and it is proven fact that he has paranormal abilities. This is just a short history of his profile.
Just let’s come back to Michael Jackson’s tragic and very sudden death. What bothers me a lot, that Uri Geller was the FIRST one who appeared in MJ house with another body guard. Guess, what this person was doing there? He wasn’t MJ close friend at this time. Why he was the one who found an empty package from Demerol in garbage container? Why it was that important to him? Did another body guard saw him taking this package from garbage container or just saw it in his hands? Another question is why Uri Geller was the first one who gave an interview to media? He did a few interviews for first a couple days. The main point of all his freaking interviews is that MJ was drag addict individual and that he could get any kind of drugs he wanted using different names. It is pretty obvious that Uri Geller tried to hide something putting dirt on Michael’s name.
Now, let’s see what Uri Geller did one month before MJ was killed. Because I speak 2 languages, I usually watch some shows on Russian TV. My first language is Russian. So, in May 2009 Uri Geller was participating on popular show on our national TV. I have no idea what was the point of this show but one detail makes me sick. During the program Uri Geller showed his very important talisman. He said that he keeps it in his pocket all the time. He said also, that this talisman gave him John Lennon only 2 days BEFORE he was killed! For some strange reason Uri Geller was his friend as well. And before John Lennon was killed, he called Uri and asked him to come over and they met in the hotel in New York.
John Lennon wasn’t feeling well and sowed him this “talisman” saying that aliens gave it to him. I looked at “talisman” and my heard started beating like crazy. It looked like a bullet, just bigger size gold bullet. Uri calls it “egg”. I do not give a sh..t how he calls it, but it definitely was a bullet, big size! I am absolutely positive, that people like Uri Geller use their paranormal abilities to keep somebody important under control or force them doing crazy things. The question is why this person was beside John Lennon 2 days before he was killed and the same person was MJ’s friend for a long time and then appeared right a few minutes after Michael was driven to the hospital? It looks very suspicious. Personally, I feel like my fingers are touching something very sticky and smelly.
I know from Uri Geller website, that he used hypnosis on MJ to “investigate” a “child molesting case”. I am absolutely sure that during this kind of “treatment” and physiological games he could easy put MJ under control. Also, if hypnotist tells you that you have to do this and that, when you wake up you will do it, it will stay in your mind. Uri used to tell MJ many times “Michael, you gonna kill yourself with drugs!”. If it was a warning, it is one thing. If hypnotist says something like that when person is asleep, it is like human brain recording this information. It could be very dangerous manipulations, sometimes fatal.
If somebody ever looked what kind of design Uri Geller provided for Michael’s album Invincible? I suggest you to take a look at Uri Geller website. There are some secret religious symbols. I am not ready to go that deep in this point, but one symbol means simply “death of physical body” and Michael name beside. It makes me sick.
Well, one thing I know for sure, Michael Jackson death is a big mystery. There are some other people behind Uri Geller and group of doctors. All those people mentally sick and greedy. People with similar mentality and believes killed Jesus 2000 and many good people after Jesus. Nothing has changed since then.
This all for now. I can say more I just do not want to, because it is an open forum. I just wish that investigators and family will do everything possible to put somebody in jail. Michael Jackson is a huge loss for millions of people..... .

Thank you.

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Oh, well… I hope somebody important will read this and investigators will check each and every “friend “and what role they played. The problem is that the police usually take facts more simple. In the end we might see Dr. Conrad Murray in jail and it will be over. Very sad…. . Anyways, I did what I had to do.

Asedora said:

Oh, well… I hope somebody important will read this and investigators will check each and every “friend “and what role they played. The problem is that the police usually take facts more simple. In the end we might see Dr. Conrad Murray in jail and it will be over. Very sad…. . Anyways, I did what I had to do.

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This is very interesting. I almost forgot about the missing security tapes. This was an immediate red flag for me.

I feel I have a gift from god as well. I have a strong ability to read a person's human nature from first look. I choice the people I deal with off of this instinct. It's like a radar detector. I feel blessed to have this special gift from god. Several people I have seen in Mike's life have a very bad ora about them. These are bad people. So I understand where you are coming from. This is one of the reasons I feel so deeply about this. Lately god has been showing so much and everything he has shown me has come to pass. WE must look into Uri more costly cause I picked up very bad vibes from this man. I knew from the first time I saw him he was not a good man. I can't believe he is a rabi. I was disgusted when I realized this. This man is bad news. He ain't the only one.

Much Love!!!!!

meena76_4MJJ_4Ever said:

This is very interesting. I almost forgot about the missing security tapes. This was an immediate red flag for me.

I feel I have a gift from god as well. I have a strong ability to read a person's human nature from first look. I choice the people I deal with off of this instinct. It's like a radar detector. I feel blessed to have this special gift from god. Several people I have seen in Mike's life have a very bad ora about them. These are bad people. So I understand where you are coming from. This is one of the reasons I feel so deeply about this. Lately god has been showing so much and everything he has shown me has come to pass. WE must look into Uri more costly cause I picked up very bad vibes from this man. I knew from the first time I saw him he was not a good man. I can't believe he is a rabi. I was disgusted when I realized this. This man is bad news. He ain't the only one.

Much Love!!!!!

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It sounds crazy but Michael came to my first and very vivid dream in two weeks after he died and convinced me to post my first msg. on this forum. Also he was saying thank you. Then I redistricted and posted it. Only after that I could feel a bit of relax.. I am sure you have a gift I can see it.

Asedora said:

I just wanted to say something about investigations and how I feel about it. Let say, first of all, when this terrible news came out I was absolutely positive that this is a murder. I could feel it almost through my skin. And it is no way that I am trying to say that I am a super psychic, but I have some sort of gift which gives me ability to feel crime. It appears like pictures in my mind, words from nowhere plus my logic. I have this kind of sensitivity or “smell” to find out that something is not right. And it doesn’t matter what is that financial fraud or another type of crime. Honestly I wish to have another gift, but I have just this one. Sorry.
So, I want you to know that Michael case is 100% murder. And it is not a second degree murder it was planned for many years (not months) by very powerful group of conspiracy.

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I myself had a random, all of a sudden, hunch three times that someone would try to either kill or harm Michael before his London shows so that he won't do them. And that they would do it either in L.A or London before he does his first show there.

And these hunches came around the time close to his death (or in the original way, close to his first show).

But I just shook those hunches right out of my head, reminding myself that GOD is on MICHAEL'S SIDE. But then as I give it more thought, God was also on MLK Jr's side and John Lennon's side and look what happened to them. God's is on all good people's side, but famous or not, murder is still done. But I just thought that God was in Michael soooo much that nothing could actually happen. But then, God's own son was killed and no one can be that closer than he was. What was I thinking? I wish I could have taken some action

Thanks Asedora, I agree with lot of what you have written , that is really interesting wht you think about Uri hypnotising MJ, that is certainly plausible I had beenwondering up till now whether conrad was being hypnotised as I couldn't fathom out why he would wreck his career, and the illuminati do use mind control and hypnosis , there is somewhere called Mkultra where they do this. They also use the media to do this by repeating certain messages over and over until they are believed regardless of facts. It is obvious it is a cover up and I think this is a lot deeper than the media make out it is troubled pop star addicted to drugs, which is what the media want people to believe and many fans also belive the media, you only have to remember the lies the media told about Michael in the past around the child molestation, this is about trying to influence mass opinon and to destroy his career. I believe there is much more to it than that from other information, that isn't out in mainstream, I think it was for multi faceted reasons, his humanitarian efforts and his exposing of the corruptness of the music industry, and other aspects like children's rights and that children become conditioned through their environment, he is right of course but tptb rely on is conditioning us as children, through what we are taught in education etc to become the adults who think the way they want us to think and believe what they want us to believe and become the adults they want us to become, he must have been a nightmare from their point of view on many areas.

Uri Geller, he is owned controlled by Eyptian illuminati media and is suspicious, he introduced Michael to Martin Bashir and he said he hypnotised MJ and knew he was innocent after Jordy chandler case,but when the Martin Bashir documentary was aired in 2003 he was interviewed on ITN news and he implied he was guilty by saying he wanted to reveal his secrets but presumably he knew he was innocent if him hypnotising him was true.

He says this at the end of this news clip,http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xafp4ucF_j0&feature=relatedbut this is contradictory to what he said in his recent documentary about knowing he was innocent so I feel Uri was instrumental in trying to destroy Michael reputation, there are many people are involved. I sense it is orchestrated by other very powerful people who control the media, music industry ie the illuminati.

Deepak Chopra is another possibly low level not on the higher level illuminati but it feels relevant to me, because I was so shocked by what I found out I always liked deepak and read all his books and loved them until he came on the media as soon as MJ was dead with the drug stories, you know I believed the drug stories at first, but it was deepak and uri that made me suspicious, I mean you don't do that to a friend especially one who had been so annhilated and had his life destroyed by the media, also what about medical ethics surely that is info for the authorities not the media, I'm not sure Deepak has as much to do with MJ as he says he did a little like uri, also Deepak son Gotham spent his time at Neverland as a teenager when the jordy chandler stuff broke and deepak never came forward on MJ behalf to say he was innocent he didn't want his immage tarnished,however he was happy to use MJ celebrity fame to launch his multi million dollar spirtual enterprise and help his reputation as a spiritual guru to associate with celebrities. Upon further investigation into deepak, his book publishers are random house owned by another elite german illuminati family, now named the Mohn family. My partner discovered he is also a member elite illuminati group the club of rome which is a sinister political think tank, with other member like Rockerfella and kissinger, that supports population control basically orchestrating events to kill people in other parts of the world ie third world etc. but making it look reasonable. Rockerfella actually admitted it in his autobiography, these guys are so arrogant. The spiritual is all a mask with deepak . TPTB do orchestrate wars including the world wars 1 and 2 that the rothschilds funded both sides,and someone like MJ who wanted to use his status to use his voice to help the voiceless and he did have massive global influence singing about healing the world and humanity and having this kind of influence isn't what they want, also he did spend a lot of time in the middle east. ONe tape I heard said he was going over there after the concerts to try and have some influence in ending the wars there. His song "we have had enough" was about this. John Lennon, also wanted to use his influence to make the world a better place,and I also heard that a tape whereTupac said he was going into politics to represent the people and his album was called killuminati and he died too. They say murder but never found murderer. The guy Bill Cooper who exposed the 911 and said Osama would be accused 2 months before it happened also died a month after, these things really are going on, truth really is stranger than fiction. Michaels death is a massive cover up nothing adds up, he was too powerful and influential on a global scale and i'm sure that has got something to do with it,how convenient for him to die just before the concerts and also how convenient that AEG will get their insurance even though overodose is normally unheard of on these insurance policies

I've probably gone off topic slightly but it is to demonstrate that things are very complex. I don't think we know the truth of anything. I'm not sure it will ever be got to the bottom of because these people the orchestrators are extremely powerful and plan and plot exactly how they are going to carryout and they like all the diversion and contradictions, it suits them. I don't think anyone will investigate it further it would take some one prepared to get to the truth regardless of consequences, also i fyou have a good career and you get labelled a conspiracy theorist it could ruin your career so most won't take the risk those that do because they believe in truth, goodness and love of humanity before anything else if they get too close to the truth, they can get bumped off too.

I heard a woman interviewed a few years ago who had worked for MI5, she said if they want to get away with something and label/prove it a conspiracy theory they just plant false info in order for it to be discredited and then the real conspiracy or crime will get discredited too.

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I've had my suspicions about Uri Gellar for sometime. I'm sure he had some kind of hold over Michael. I've yet to see a photo of the 2 of them togetrher where Michael is smiling. Have a Google and see for yourselves. If you find one, please post it!

I tend to agree about Klein and Debbie. They seem to be both very sleazy.

Oh thank you guys. I am glad that finally somebody can see things like this.
Gaiaschild your post is just perfect and very smart. Thank you.
It happened to be that I am very educated at this subject because I was born in Russia and my country has a long history of fighting against these kind of conspiracy groups. You can call them illuminati or whatever. I know they hate anything about Christian philosophy of love etc. They hate Russian orthodox church (it is their fist enemy) because it has knowledge (many publications, books about conspiracy) and it always was fighting against them. As an example is Russian revolution. Communist who did this revolution were the same conspiracy/illuminati group as well and they almost destroy Orthodox church killing of thousands priests. In the end they killed the last Russian Tsar and all Romanov’s family including kids. Then Josef Stalin came to the power killed a lot of illuminati leaders on top of the communist’s government including Leon Trotsky plus few thousands of conspiracy supporters and many went to the prison who was against him or somehow showed it , even innocent. In the end the group of doctors (I think 10) were prosecuted because Stalin believed there were trying to kill him.The historical Doctors' plot process was an alleged of conspiracy to eliminate him by poisoning.

It was a huge mess. But Stalin didn’t change the system back. He just gave a bit of political freedom for the church again.

So back to the point. They do not like any kind of royal blood lines they cannot control.
I believe they couldn’t control Princess Diana and she died in car accident. Was it really a car accident?
Michael was a pop star but his behavior, his look was like he had a royal blood line. If you look at his attributes like an art in his house or his personal style you can clearly see it. Illuminati have an opposite style. It always some sort of abstraction and mess if you look at their art.

Orthodox church philosophy teaches that royal blood line comes to this Earth from God (it is like blessing) and it doesn’t matter if the person was born in poor family. It like Jesus was born in very poor family but called himself a king.

Michael was very DANGEROUS for the system and their values at this point. He wasn’t under their control . He was a messenger of love and healing the world loved by millions. I wonder now if he called his album “Dangerous” because of this meaning?

Asedora said:

Oh thank you guys. I am glad that finally somebody can see things like this.
Gaiaschild your post is just perfect and very smart. Thank you.
It happened to be that I am very educated at this subject because I was born in Russia and my country has a long history of fighting against these kind of conspiracy groups. You can call them illuminati or whatever. I know they hate anything about Christian philosophy of love etc. They hate Russian orthodox church (it is their fist enemy) because it has knowledge (many publications, books about conspiracy) and it always was fighting against them. As an example is Russian revolution. Communist who did this revolution were the same conspiracy/illuminati group as well and they almost destroy Orthodox church killing of thousands priests. In the end they killed the last Russian Tsar and all Romanov’s family including kids. Then Josef Stalin came to the power killed a lot of illuminati leaders on top of the communist’s government including Leon Trotsky plus few thousands of conspiracy supporters and many went to the prison who was against him or somehow showed it , even innocent. It was a huge mess. But Stalin didn’t change the system back. He just gave a bit of political freedom for the church again.

So back to the point. They do not like any kind of royal blood lines they cannot control.
I believe they couldn’t control Princess Diana and she died in car accident. Was it really a car accident?
Michael was a pop star but his behavior, his look was like he had a royal blood line. If you look at his attributes like an art in his house or his personal style you can clearly see it. Illuminati have an opposite style. It always some sort of abstraction and mess if you look at their art.

Orthodox church philosophy teaches that royal blood line comes to this Earth from God (it is like blessing) and it doesn’t matter if the person was born in poor family. It like Jesus was born in very poor family but called himself a king.

Michael was very DANGEROUS for the system and their values at this point. He wasn’t under their control . He was a messenger of love and healing the world loved by millions. I wonder now if he called his album “Dangerous” because it was the meaning?

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Thanks for this, and sharing your experience,I agree there is definitely tptb controlling things globally and they hate the power of love, unity and humanity, I feel strongly this was what MIchael was very much about even though it has been censored in mainstream media. That is probably why it has been censored in mainstream and character assassinating him is a good way to make sure his message stays censored whether it be by the child molestation accusations or now the drug ones it is all the same.

I only became aware of it a couple of years ago, I believe Diana was likely murdered too, some have done the research and it is difficult to ignore when pointed out, again the media feed us this line that the driver was drunk when he clearly wasn't from footage, he had no liver damage found in someone who would be a heavy alcohol drinker and he wasn't so it was a planted sample. I've seen other things the symbols again but not looked into heavily as I wasn't that interested but am aware therethere are others who know a lot about it. But no one offical ever investigates, they just decide what they tell us, even when the evidence doesn't add up and most believe it unquestioningly. She was outspoken too in a political way toward the end of her life ie the royal family, the land mines and her boyfriend was dodi al fayad, Ithink they were afraid she might marry him,although I doubt she would have, and that the future king of England would have a muslim step parent, they just would not allow that. Also the royal family and Charles became so unpopular while diana was alive after she died after enough time lapsed, they regained a lot of their popularity especially Charles.

Michael had a song called we have had enough , I think recorded 2004 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvjy...p=1220619&posted=1&feature=player_embeddedand it is written for the children dying because of war. I think he was getting into territories celebrities are not supposed to go in especially a celebrity with the global influence he had.

Have you read the Anastasia books, they are from Russia?

Also I'm interested in what you say about Uri designing the invincible cover and symbols on his website, I'll have a look, but pm me if you don't want to go into that here. I'm interested in this. I know the illuminati or whatever for want of a better word, TPTB use symbolism, I'd never noticed that about the art, thanks for pointing it out, do you have any examples. Anyway on a positve note, the fact we know what they are up too and I believe their days are numbered because if enough people become aware and know that the power is in unity, faith and love etc it will weaken them because they thrive by people being in fear and hate and lack of ethics. That is how they keep the people controlled with fear. This world should not be like this full of starving and war and suffering. it should be a paradise. I'm sure that Michaels concerts would have had the power of uniting and creating massive postive energy , which they don't want at this particular time so they killed him and created a mass grief energy instead. he was definitely aware of how the world works from his few talks he did and exposed it.

That is a really freaky coincidence him being also friendly with John Lennon, given that John lennon is also believed by some to have been assassinated for similar reasons,and Ijust been looking to see if I can find anything out about the magic egg/bullet and found this clip, it does look like a bullet, I'm curious as to how Uri Geller ended up with it. I read that John said aliens gave it to him according to Uri.

Do you have any more info or the clip of Uri explaining how he came by the egg/bullet

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd-V75rSJQ

About the art. It is not necessarily that the artist belongs to any kind of secret groups we discussed. It is just a style they prefer, however the style once again was developed and supported by Russian revolutionists/communists right after 1917. Russian revolution was their big victory in fight against Christian orthodox Empire. In Stalin’s’ period this art was not that popular. Some examples of arts are avant-garde, formalism, abstract art , supermacism. This is an opposite of classic Christian art, European antic art etc..
I wouldn’t like to discuss symbols they use because it is not a proper forum to discuss things like that. It is just a combinations of different symbols with the special meaning. This is like their signature of a big “event” and communication with each other at the same time.
The book you asked me about. I have never came across this book. If it is about princess Anastasia then it is a long story. If this is another Anastasia books about living in peace and harmony with the nature then these ones are originally from Russia.
Back to Michael Jackson. I really hope that they investigate it properly and numbers of doctors will go to jail not just Dr Murray. I have a video somewhere on my computer which shows that Michael was under some sort of mental pressure while he was dealing with Uri Geller. Uri Geller never will go to jail cuz they are not going to investigate it that far. I hope MJ fans will kick his ass some day. Poor Michael I still cannot believe it. In orthodox Christian tradition if the person was killed under certain circumstances like Romanov’s royal family they become saints. Michael is a saint in my heard.

Gaiaschild said:

That is a really freaky coincidence him being also friendly with John Lennon, given that John lennon is also believed by some to have been assassinated for similar reasons,and Ijust been looking to see if I can find anything out about the magic egg/bullet and found this clip, it does look like a bullet, I'm curious as to how Uri Geller ended up with it. I read that John said aliens gave it to him according to Uri.

Do you have any more info or the clip of Uri explaining how he came by the egg/bullet

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd-V75rSJQ

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Yes it is. Geller saw John Lennon just 2 days before Lennon was killed by mentaly unhelthy person. Lennon showed him this bullet in the hotel they met. Geller and Lennon use to talk about aliens a lot and Geller brainwashed him with aliens stories I think. This is why Lennon didn't feel well, couldn't sleep before he was killed.The golden bullet/egg Lennon received through the open window in his bedroom. I think they just make it look like a mystery. There are many ways to it.

Lennon's killer said later that he really believed that John Lennon had to die. I think he was just under sort of mental control and drugs as well.

Since 1996, I guess (I have to check it) Yuri Geller had a Teddy Bear talisman. He announced a special event in London saying that it is a “Teddy Bear time”. Also he used to give Teddy Bears talismans away saying that this talisman has a healing power. This was a very weird and crazy act unless you know where to put this puzzle. As far as I know Teddy Bear is a toy MJ used to like and fans were sending it to him as a gift. “Teddy Bear” with healing power is a very easy to verify who he was talking about. I am very suspicious about this. Looks like another “signature”, just like John’s Lennon talisman from aliens.
Did Michael start to have problems with his public image around the year 1996?

Yes I'd read that the killer of John Lennon was a mentally ill person and it is believed the may have been under mind control ,hypnosis or brainwashed. I haven't looked too much into the details though. That is freaky Uri being with John 2 days before he died. What are the chances two huge global popstars humanitarians, trying to make a difference in the world, that Uri just happens to be friendly with and then they get killled mysteriously and conveniently.

I always thought MJ probs really started in 1993 after the first allegations and I had wondered before if it was linked to him doing songs like heal the world, but you could be right, 1996 is when he did that song they don't care about us and Uri and others accused him of being anti semitic.

Gaiaschild said:

Yes I'd read that the killer of John Lennon was a mentally ill person and it is believed the may have been under mind control ,hypnosis or brainwashed. I haven't looked too much into the details though. That is freaky Uri being with John 2 days before he died. What are the chances two huge global popstars humanitarians, trying to make a difference in the world, that Uri just happens to be friendly with and then they get killled mysteriously and conveniently.

I always thought MJ probs really started in 1993 after the first allegations and I had wondered before if it was linked to him doing songs like heal the world, but you could be right, 1996 is when he did that song they don't care about us and Uri and others accused him of being anti semitic.

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I think, everything adds up with Uri Geller. He is just a freaking conspirator who thinks that hi is genies. They think that they are so smart using their symbol’s language including “talismans” that nobody will be able to understand it. They think everybody is stupid. Yes, majority of people never pay attention to staff like which gives them a freedom to manipulate people’s minds trough the media. They are big liars and I am sure Michael was aware of it. He even was saying this pretty often.

I am posting here one part of interview with Michael from 1992 which shows what kind of beautiful soul he was. It shows that Michael was a God messenger and he knew this. Apparently, a person like this had no chance to live a long life. Nothing has changed since Jesus Christ.

Here it is:


JACKSON: I really believe that God chooses people to do certain things, the way Michelangelo or Leonardo da Vinci or Mozart or Muhammad Ali or Martin Luther King is chosen. And that is their mission to do that thing. And I think that I haven't scratched the surface yet of what my real purpose is for being here. I'm committed to my art. I believe that all art has as its ultimate goal the union between the material and the spiritual, the human and the divine. And I believe that that is the very reason for the existence of art and what I do. And I feel fortunate in being that instrument through which music flows .... Deep inside I feel that this world we live in is really a big, huge, monumental symphonic orchestra. I believe that in its primordial form all of creation is sound and that it's not just random sound, that its music. You've heard the expression, music of the spheres? Well, thats a very literal phrase. In the Gospels, we read, "And the Lord God made man from the dust of the earth and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life and man became a living soul." That breath of life to me is the music of life and it permeates every fiber of creation. In one of the pieces of the Dangerous album, I say:"Life songs of ages, throbbing in my blood, have danced the rhythm of the tide and flood." This is a very literal statement, because the same new miracle intervals and biological rhythms that sound out the architecture of my DNA also governs the movement of the stars. The same music governs the rhythm of the seasons, the pulse of our heartbeats, the migration of birds, the ebb and flow of ocean tides, the cycles of growth, evolution and dissolution. It's music, its rhythm. And my goal in life is to give to the world what I was lucky to receive: the ecstasy of divine union through my music and my dance. Its like, my purpose, its what I'm here for.

Why do you think Frank Delio decided to speak to fans? My guess is they are very concerned that Michael’s death creates uncomfortable public resonance for them. A decision like this is not that simple thing which happens overnight imo. Why this fat cat would care if MJ died from simple drug overdose or some natural reasons? It just doesn’t make any sense...

asedora ..here's something to prove you're right:

Liz Taylor, though in a wheelchair, was still a great beauty. Her presence seemed supernatural too, but unlike Brando she was very approachable. “You have to come down to my home again,” she ordered, “and unbend all the cutlery from your last visit!” I spent much of the evening talking Hebrew with her bodyguards – all ex-Mossad Israeli secret service men, the toughest in the world.

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Uri Geller

kind of lurked into his website ...full of crap..bleah

i don't like uri geller either, i watched that interview on youtube where he talks about MJ and i don't know why but I don't trust him and he seems very fake and he looks like a bad person..also i think in this interview he said that he hypnotized Michael and asked him about the child molestation without michael knowing it, for some reason i didn't like this, like he wasn't sure whether MJ was innocent or something..you're a great friend uri..NOT!
I believe that MJ was a very spiritual person and my question is, couldn't he know that such people were bad? couldn't he feel it somehow??? why did he spend time with such fake people?

Asedora said:

Hello, dear friends!
This is my first post here. I call all of you “dear friends” because it’s just cannot be any different than that in Michael Jackson’s forum. I think MJ fans are very special people and it is because MJ was a very special human being ever walked on this planet. I am here because I have something important to say and to share my feelings and my thoughts with you. English is not my first language but I will try to do my best and I hope you will be patient reading this.
Well, tell you what? I’ve never been “hardcore” MJ's fan, but I always had a little place for him in my heard. The news about his tragic death was shocking and I just couldn’t stop crying for a few days and I still didn’t recover.. I didn’t expect that kind of reaction from myself. It is really heartbreaking and painful. It tells me that Michael Jackson was much more than just King of Pop. .
I just wanted to say something about investigations and how I feel about it. Let say, first of all, when this terrible news came out I was absolutely positive that this is a murder. I could feel it almost through my skin. And it is no way that I am trying to say that I am a super psychic, but I have some sort of gift which gives me ability to feel crime. It appears like pictures in my mind, words from nowhere plus my logic. I have this kind of sensitivity or “smell” to find out that something is not right. And it doesn’t matter what is that financial fraud or another type of crime. Honestly I wish to have another gift, but I have just this one. Sorry.
So, I want you to know that Michael case is 100% murder. And it is not a second degree murder it was planned for many years (not months) by very powerful group of conspiracy.
I am sure that doctors are involved even dentists (they have to check dentists as well).But it just a tip of iceberg. I hope, that people who behind it will go to jail eventually. I feel that Doctor Conrad Murray wasn’t the guy who wanted to kill MJ.. Just some people trying to make him look like that. There is a possibility that something was going on in the house before, because as you know, all tapes from video cameras suddenly disappeared.
Now let’s take a look at Michael’s “friends”. Honestly I do not trust even one of them.
1. Elizabeth Taylor was the closest friend to MJ for YEARS who had to help him if there any problems. I believe she knew that something is not right. She wasn’t blind right? Also, I feel that Elizabeth Taylor had some sort of feelings to Michael based on her sexual interest but she didn’t get any respond from him. So, she probably just didn’t care or she cared too much and finally introduced him to the “right” specialist. Sometimes people can wear a very friendly mask for a long time.
I do not trust her at all because she was the one who recommended Michael Dr. Arnold Kline’s clinic. I believe, she knew that Michael has problems with drug addiction. I think, she decided just let it go.
2. Dr. Kline and his assistant Debbie Rowe are both involved. Those two people have been working together for years. I think they played on somebody’s side as well trying to find some weak points in MJ personality and health conditions, providing incorrect treatment. It looks freaking strange that Dr. Kline could be a physiological father of two older kids like he said lately! It seems like Debbie Rowe and Dr. Kline just put those kids to Michael Jackson house to get millions of dollars from him. Now they have a chance to get kids and money together. Amazing!
3. Well I am going to discuss the most important figure in this huge mess. His name is Uri Geller. I can smell trough my skin that this guy is freaking asshole. I do not trust this guy even one split second! First of all this person has a VERY specific background. Uri Geller was born in Israel and he is related to a very famous crazy psychiatrist Sigismund Freud on his mother side. Sigismund Freud also was a specialist on dream analysis and hypnosis. Uri Geller has paranormal abilities and he used hypnosis in his practice as well. He was trained in Israel and during cold war with USSR this person used to work for FBI and other similar organizations. Once he was trying to clear up some secret files in KGB servers. I do not think that he was able to do this but his brain was tasted in special “brain institution” and it is proven fact that he has paranormal abilities. This is just a short history of his profile.
Just let’s come back to Michael Jackson’s tragic and very sudden death. What bothers me a lot, that Uri Geller was the FIRST one who appeared in MJ house with another body guard. Guess, what this person was doing there? He wasn’t MJ close friend at this time. Why he was the one who found an empty package from Demerol in garbage container? Why it was that important to him? Did another body guard saw him taking this package from garbage container or just saw it in his hands? Another question is why Uri Geller was the first one who gave an interview to media? He did a few interviews for first a couple days. The main point of all his freaking interviews is that MJ was drag addict individual and that he could get any kind of drugs he wanted using different names. It is pretty obvious that Uri Geller tried to hide something putting dirt on Michael’s name.
Now, let’s see what Uri Geller did one month before MJ was killed. Because I speak 2 languages, I usually watch some shows on Russian TV. My first language is Russian. So, in May 2009 Uri Geller was participating on popular show on our national TV. I have no idea what was the point of this show but one detail makes me sick. During the program Uri Geller showed his very important talisman. He said that he keeps it in his pocket all the time. He said also, that this talisman gave him John Lennon only 2 days BEFORE he was killed! For some strange reason Uri Geller was his friend as well. And before John Lennon was killed, he called Uri and asked him to come over and they met in the hotel in New York.
John Lennon wasn’t feeling well and sowed him this “talisman” saying that aliens gave it to him. I looked at “talisman” and my heard started beating like crazy. It looked like a bullet, just bigger size gold bullet. Uri calls it “egg”. I do not give a sh..t how he calls it, but it definitely was a bullet, big size! I am absolutely positive, that people like Uri Geller use their paranormal abilities to keep somebody important under control or force them doing crazy things. The question is why this person was beside John Lennon 2 days before he was killed and the same person was MJ’s friend for a long time and then appeared right a few minutes after Michael was driven to the hospital? It looks very suspicious. Personally, I feel like my fingers are touching something very sticky and smelly.
I know from Uri Geller website, that he used hypnosis on MJ to “investigate” a “child molesting case”. I am absolutely sure that during this kind of “treatment” and physiological games he could easy put MJ under control. Also, if hypnotist tells you that you have to do this and that, when you wake up you will do it, it will stay in your mind. Uri used to tell MJ many times “Michael, you gonna kill yourself with drugs!”. If it was a warning, it is one thing. If hypnotist says something like that when person is asleep, it is like human brain recording this information. It could be very dangerous manipulations, sometimes fatal.
If somebody ever looked what kind of design Uri Geller provided for Michael’s album Invincible? I suggest you to take a look at Uri Geller website. There are some secret religious symbols. I am not ready to go that deep in this point, but one symbol means simply “death of physical body” and Michael name beside. It makes me sick.
Well, one thing I know for sure, Michael Jackson death is a big mystery. There are some other people behind Uri Geller and group of doctors. All those people mentally sick and greedy. People with similar mentality and believes killed Jesus 2000 and many good people after Jesus. Nothing has changed since then.
This all for now. I can say more I just do not want to, because it is an open forum. I just wish that investigators and family will do everything possible to put somebody in jail. Michael Jackson is a huge loss for millions of people..... .

Thank you.

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Great Post
I too agree with you Geller is involved in his death. I even wrote a post about Geller
http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=71038

I think Rowe and Kline are involved too. The people who planned this is the Hollywood Entertainment VIPs who control Movies Music and Media. Forget the "Illuminati" crap of nameless faceless people. The names of the Media controllers can be named.

People I believe were and are involved (maybe not the killer(s) are

SONY- John Branca Tommy Motolla Frank Dileo
AEG- Randy Phillips Conrad Murray
Colony- Tom Barrack Thome Thome
Uri Geller
Ian Halperine( who"knew" MJ had 6 months left)
Debbie Rowe
Dr Kline
Nurse Cheryl Lee

Media whores and possible detraction

Jermaine Jackson
Brian Oxman
Mark Lester
The endless TV Guide channel MJ nonsense
AGE lawsuit

Others who are silent

Steven Spielberg MJ's "friend"
Paul McCartney obssessed with the Beatles songs
John Landis MJ's "friend"
David Geffen MJ's "friend"

People I fear will be murdered "die"

Katherine Jackson
One or all of MJ's kids
Latoya Jackson( who also knew it was murder)
Elizabeth Taylor( who suddenly was hospitalized)

Asedora said:

I think, everything adds up with Uri Geller. He is just a freaking conspirator who thinks that hi is genies. They think that they are so smart using their symbol’s language including “talismans” that nobody will be able to understand it. They think everybody is stupid. Yes, majority of people never pay attention to staff like which gives them a freedom to manipulate people’s minds trough the media. They are big liars and I am sure Michael was aware of it. He even was saying this pretty often.

I am posting here one part of interview with Michael from 1992 which shows what kind of beautiful soul he was. It shows that Michael was a God messenger and he knew this. Apparently, a person like this had no chance to live a long life. Nothing has changed since Jesus Christ.

Here it is:


JACKSON: I really believe that God chooses people to do certain things, the way Michelangelo or Leonardo da Vinci or Mozart or Muhammad Ali or Martin Luther King is chosen. And that is their mission to do that thing. And I think that I haven't scratched the surface yet of what my real purpose is for being here. I'm committed to my art. I believe that all art has as its ultimate goal the union between the material and the spiritual, the human and the divine. And I believe that that is the very reason for the existence of art and what I do. And I feel fortunate in being that instrument through which music flows .... Deep inside I feel that this world we live in is really a big, huge, monumental symphonic orchestra. I believe that in its primordial form all of creation is sound and that it's not just random sound, that its music. You've heard the expression, music of the spheres? Well, thats a very literal phrase. In the Gospels, we read, "And the Lord God made man from the dust of the earth and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life and man became a living soul." That breath of life to me is the music of life and it permeates every fiber of creation. In one of the pieces of the Dangerous album, I say:"Life songs of ages, throbbing in my blood, have danced the rhythm of the tide and flood." This is a very literal statement, because the same new miracle intervals and biological rhythms that sound out the architecture of my DNA also governs the movement of the stars. The same music governs the rhythm of the seasons, the pulse of our heartbeats, the migration of birds, the ebb and flow of ocean tides, the cycles of growth, evolution and dissolution. It's music, its rhythm. And my goal in life is to give to the world what I was lucky to receive: the ecstasy of divine union through my music and my dance. Its like, my purpose, its what I'm here for.

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Thanks for posting that is so beautiful and shows the depth of his understanding and spiritual connection, which I'm sure there is much more he understood that we are aware of as although he was outspoken prior to the trials, I wonder what else he would have said if that hadn't happened, this is another reason for why people like him end up dying conveniently, they have to get rid of them out of fear of what they are going to say next. I like this bit in particular that he says, I really resonate strongly with this.

" This is a very literal statement, because the same new miracle intervals and biological rhythms that sound out the architecture of my DNA also governs the movement of the stars. The same music governs the rhythm of the seasons, the pulse of our heartbeats, the migration of birds, the ebb and flow of ocean tides, the cycles of growth, evolution and dissolution. It's music, its rhythm. And my goal in life is to give to the world what I was lucky to receive: the ecstasy of divine union through my music and my dance. Its like, my purpose, its what I'm here for."

Asedora said:

Why do you think Frank Delio decided to speak to fans? My guess is they are very concerned that Michael’s death creates uncomfortable public resonance for them. A decision like this is not that simple thing which happens overnight imo. Why this fat cat would care if MJ died from simple drug overdose or some natural reasons? It just doesn’t make any sense...

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I don't know about Frank, I can't fathom it out yet, I'm going to wait and see what he says, before I make up my mind. I know most think it is a diversion and it might be, as it will keep us talking about that in the days to come so it might serve as keeping us distracted from something else.

HemlockDevi said:

Great Post
I too agree with you Geller is involved in his death. I even wrote a post about Geller
http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=71038

I think Rowe and Kline are involved too. The people who planned this is the Hollywood Entertainment VIPs who control Movies Music and Media. Forget the "Illuminati" crap of nameless faceless people. The names of the Media controllers can be named.

People I believe were and are involved (maybe not the killer(s) are

SONY- John Branca Tommy Motolla Frank Dileo
AEG- Randy Phillips Conrad Murray
Colony- Tom Barrack Thome Thome
Uri Geller
Ian Halperine( who"knew" MJ had 6 months left)
Debbie Rowe
Dr Kline
Nurse Cheryl Lee

Media whores and possible detraction

Jermaine Jackson
Brian Oxman
Mark Lester
The endless TV Guide channel MJ nonsense
AGE lawsuit

Others who are silent

Steven Spielberg MJ's "friend"
Paul McCartney obssessed with the Beatles songs
John Landis MJ's "friend"
David Geffen MJ's "friend"

People I fear will be murdered "die"

Katherine Jackson
One or all of MJ's kids
Latoya Jackson( who also knew it was murder)
Elizabeth Taylor( who suddenly was hospitalized)

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thanks for posting this... it's really good to put names on the list and see where we get at

Asedora said:

Yes it is. Geller saw John Lennon just 2 days before Lennon was killed by mentaly unhelthy person. Lennon showed him this bullet in the hotel they met. Geller and Lennon use to talk about aliens a lot and Geller brainwashed him with aliens stories I think. This is why Lennon didn't feel well, couldn't sleep before he was killed.The golden bullet/egg Lennon received through the open window in his bedroom. I think they just make it look like a mystery. There are many ways to it.

Lennon's killer said later that he really believed that John Lennon had to die. I think he was just under sort of mental control and drugs as well.

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I just found this on how John Lennon came to give this bullet to Uri

http://ascension-2012.blogspot.com/2006/06/message-from-uri-geller-on-john-lennon.html

John told Uri this, is this freaky or what. , that the aliens gave it too john

Keep it." John told me. "It's too weird for me. If it's my ticket to another planet, I don't want to go there."

I'm so gald that i found this thread.

didn't illuminati design the "Dangerous" album cover?

Personally illuminate is a cover up. I know and you know who they really are. They control Hollywood and the media.

Mj didn't want to give Snake Bashir an interview. And uri somehow convinced Michael to do it.

Asedora said:

Why do you think Frank Delio decided to speak to fans? My guess is they are very concerned that Michael’s death creates uncomfortable public resonance for them. A decision like this is not that simple thing which happens overnight imo. Why this fat cat would care if MJ died from simple drug overdose or some natural reasons? It just doesn’t make any sense...

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Well, I guess he said the interview was to "clear up some misconceptions?" What is interesting is that he would even KNOW what's being said/speculated on a message board? Of COURSE he has "moles" here. The question is, WHY would he have moles here? Why would he even care? I think the answer is that WE are the only ones doing some serious speculating, and that's made him nervous? Either that speculating tarnishes the image he would like to project, or we are onto something? Don't know. . . yet. LAPD only has THREE investigators on the case? We probably know more, in a lot of ways, than they do. We can connect the dots?

Frank went on tv to present himself in a good light. Here, on MJJC, often that "light" is NOT so good. He was Michael's good friend, had his best interests at heart, and Michael was in tip-top shape, even though fans say he was NOT? Or is it NOT true that he was Michael's good friend, etc. Don't forget that Frank set up the AGE fiasco, that might have cost Michael a lot of money in a lawsuit. There is quite a bit that doesn't add up. Maybe he can explain everything, and maybe. . . . he can't. I'm awaiting his answers, with great interest.

HemlockDevi said:

Great Post
I too agree with you Geller is involved in his death. I even wrote a post about Geller
http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=71038

I think Rowe and Kline are involved too. The people who planned this is the Hollywood Entertainment VIPs who control Movies Music and Media. Forget the "Illuminati" crap of nameless faceless people. The names of the Media controllers can be named.

People I believe were and are involved (maybe not the killer(s) are

SONY- John Branca Tommy Motolla Frank Dileo
AEG- Randy Phillips Conrad Murray
Colony- Tom Barrack Thome Thome
Uri Geller
Ian Halperine( who"knew" MJ had 6 months left)
Debbie Rowe
Dr Kline
Nurse Cheryl Lee

Media whores and possible detraction

Jermaine Jackson
Brian Oxman
Mark Lester
The endless TV Guide channel MJ nonsense
AGE lawsuit

Others who are silent

Steven Spielberg MJ's "friend"
Paul McCartney obssessed with the Beatles songs
John Landis MJ's "friend"
David Geffen MJ's "friend"

People I fear will be murdered "die"

Katherine Jackson
One or all of MJ's kids
Latoya Jackson( who also knew it was murder)
Elizabeth Taylor( who suddenly was hospitalized)

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WOW! Very smart post! About kids. I think Prince Michael II Blanket is in a very dangerous situation. The first two are not for now because ( I am not gonna explain why for now...)

Not quite agree with Elizabeth Taylor name in last paragraph. She introduced MJ to Dr. Kline as far as I know. Because of that I do not trust her. I think she will be OK.Her body guards from Mossad are still working for her… She is not going to open her mouth you know... .

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Well, I guess he said the interview was to "clear up some misconceptions?" What is interesting is that he would even KNOW what's being said/speculated on a message board? Of COURSE he has "moles" here. The question is, WHY would he have moles here? Why would he even care? I think the answer is that WE are the only ones doing some serious speculating, and that's made him nervous? Either that speculating tarnishes the image he would like to project, or we are onto something? Don't know. . . yet. LAPD only has THREE investigators on the case? We probably know more, in a lot of ways, than they do. We can connect the dots?

Frank went on tv to present himself in a good light. Here, on MJJC, often that "light" is NOT so good. He was Michael's good friend, had his best interests at heart, and Michael was in tip-top shape, even though fans say he was NOT? Or is it NOT true that he was Michael's good friend, etc. Don't forget that Frank set up the AGE fiasco, that might have cost Michael a lot of money in a lawsuit. There is quite a bit that doesn't add up. Maybe he can explain everything, and maybe. . . . he can't. I'm awaiting his answers, with great interest.

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100%. They worry that something will go wrong not as planned. He just wants to direct our minds to a "proper" way of thinking and make everybody “swallow ” Michael’s death like a pill and keep quiet. This is the main reason talking to fans. Of course he has "moles" here. Maybe they even sent him a copy of this thread.



PS.Also, Uri Geller’s web site is not longer available for public viewing (since today). Probably they just closed it. I'll will check it later... .

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I just copy post paste this info from another thread to keep all evidence about Uri Geller together:


http://www.mjjcommunity.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2154955&posted=1#post2154955



Originally Posted by MJ.LOVEU4EVA
Two days after MJ's death Uri and his wife attended a party i was working at, all i was thinking was if you had any respect for MJ as a friend he shulda kept
ya backside home not be out blabbing to the likes of paul daniels and his wife what he thought happened to MJ... He stabbed him in the back when he was alive and hes still doing the same now. He hadnt even talked to MJ for ages according to his wife- i asked her, so what the hell is he doing trying to grab a bit of air time using MJ to do it, makes me sick. He looks really ill in the flesh worse than he does on tv, scrawny rat! I wish media woulnt give him the time of day. He doesnt deserve it.



Oh this is a great information! I bet you the party was a secret celebration of Michel's death. What was the official reason for this party? Something stupid I guess?

So, they are focusing for now on a group of docs which is not too bad. We will see.I want all doctors-killers to be arrested tomorrow on Michael’s birthday. Oh, God please make my dream to become the truth.



California Attorney General Jerry Brown is launching an independent investigation into the death of Michael Jackson.

Brown says the investigation comes at the request of the LAPD and will focus on several doctors connected to Jackson.

Brown said police have met with representatives of the attorney general's Bureau of Narcotics Enforcement and the DEA about what evidence has been uncovered.

The attorney general's office won't name the specific doctors their investigation is targeting.
http://www.tmz.com/2009/08/28/michael-jackson-attorney-general-investigation/

Just adding another evidence against Uri Geller persona . Any specialist in psychiatry or even not a specialist who read this can tell that Geller used to keep Michael under mental control It just worked out the same like it did for John Lennon with aliens. What an asshole Uri Geller. I really hate I him. I wish somebody sends him someday to the Moon using Russian military rocket system S-400. What an idiot.

Here it is:

http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/sho...OON-Michael-Jacskon-plan-to-walk-on-moon.html



In the message left at 3am one morning ***** beams: "Uri Geller, it's Michael Jackson calling¿erm when you get this message, please know that I pray we do the moon trip.

"I want to be the first one to do it in the pop world. Now I hear that 'N Sync and all these people are trying to go. I want to be first¿please.

"And let's do hands across England and let's think of some other wonderful things. I love you. Goodbye."

The message was left in 2002 after Uri told ***** there was a Boeing scientist with links to Nasa, Martin Coeffoletti, who thought the trip could work.

At the time other singers like Lance Bass from boyband 'N Sync had entered the race to get to space.

And ***** became obsessed with beating them.

Uri, 62, told us: "He wanted to be the first popstar in space so badly. He had to be first.

"He knew it wouldn't only be history-making, it would be history-shattering. Can you imagine¿Michael Jackson doing the moonwalk on the moon?

"It was unbelievable the determination he had. It was a burning desire to walk on the moon.


PS. This is video I was looking for.This video shows better than pictures that MJ under total mental control . You do not need to be a specialist to see it. Poor Michael, i am so sorry for him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHJril-J1y4&feature=fvw