Will a Trial expose things about michael his family/fans don't want to hear?

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I don't agree with alot of things in this article but it makes some interesting points. I think this should go to trial, murray doesn't deserve more special treatment.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/charles-feldman/jackson-doc-trial-likely_b_455561.html

Jackson Doc Trial Likely Will Be Prosecution of Singer: Does Family Really Want That?

February 9, 2010

I am a veteran.

Not of any wars. But I am a veteran of having covered not one but two O.J. Simpson trials (criminal and civil); one Robert Blake trial; and, one Michael Jackson trial. I think I know how defense lawyers think and have dealt with the best and worst of them. I also have a pretty good take on how prosecutors operate.

So, I will tell you right now and with no fear of contradiction: Should Dr. Conrad Murray's case on involuntary manslaughter charges ever go before a Los Angeles jury (and more about that a bit later), the doctor's defense lawyers, if they are any good (and I think his current one is!) will no doubt try and turn the trial into a prosecution of Michael Jackson.

Lawyers for O.J., in his criminal trial, zeroed in on the LAPD; while lawyers for Robert Blake took aim at his dead wife's, shall we say, "background."

I'm afraid that Michael Jackson's life is ripe for the defense picking.

Dr. Murray has pleaded not guilty to the charge against him. And, it is telling that, despite considerable pressure from Jackson's family and fan base, the Los Angeles County District Attorney correctly opted for the least possible criminal charge they could go for, involuntary manslaughter--which history shows is often the most difficult charge to actually prove in a court of law. Even if convicted, the maximum sentence is four years.

An eight month investigation....a relatively light criminal charge. (If any criminal charge can ever really be thought of as "light"?)

The California state Medical Board is reportedly considering whether to suspend Murray's medical license, but that would only stop him from practicing in California. He practices in Texas and Nevada, too.

Jackson's father, Joe, went on Larry King to say that "I was looking for justice, and justice, to me, would be a murder charge."

He went on to tell King, referring to Dr. Murray, "To me, he's just a fall guy. There's other people, I think involved with this whole thing."

On that, the senior Jackson may have a point, but not for the reason he thinks.

He seems to be implying some sort of sinister murder conspiracy aimed at his son, without offering, I hasten to add, any evidence, though that seldom stops talk shows from exploiting such comments for dramatic effect, not to mention ratings.

But should this case go to trial, the doctor's defense lawyer (lawyers?) will no doubt try to paint a picture of Michael Jackson that his family, and certainly his own children, may not wish to hear: That the singer was apparently an addicted drug addict (certainly it would seem to the surgical anesthetic propofol); that many, many doctors before Dr. Murray was even hired contributed to the deceased superstar's addictive personality and lifestyle (not to mention who knows how many drug stores that gladly filled prescription after prescription, made up names or not); and, I'm afraid to say, even Jackson family members who may have, over the years, acted as enablers, all in the name of keeping the Michael Jackson performing machine going at full steam ahead, will probably become part of the defense argument.

Yes, Joe Jackson is probably correct. Other people are involved in the singer's untimely death. In one way or another.

That is why I think it is probably in the best interests of justice, and Michael Jackson's reputation and legacy, that this case never go to trial. Dr. Murray is not likely to know all the previous medical people who played a role in Michael Jackson's addiction. Jackson's family and fans probably do not need to have Jackson's name dragged through the LA mud once again, as certainly it will be during any trial.

I understand that Dr. Murray wants to clear his name. He certainly enjoys the cloak of innocent until proven guilty that our criminal justice system provides. But if I were a prosecutor, I would push hard for a plea bargain, one that would strip the doctor of his ability to practice medicine. The poor doctor was apparently just the last link in a very long chain that, unintentionally, led to Jackson's death. It seems unfair to him that he should shoulder the entire burden. By the same token, Michael Jackson was, indeed, a victim, but one whose own hands had some blood on them. His small children have suffered enough. Do they really need to hear all the sordid details that will surely emerge about their dad's lifestyle should this case go to trial? I, for one, don't think so.
 
I don't see anything here but the craven argument that we should sweep everything under the rug because someone might say something mean about Michael. During the trial, we heard absolutely every vile thing for 1 1/2 years, including the insinuation that Michael was a drug addict. None of this holds any threat any longer. If this is what it takes to hold Murray accountable, than this is what it takes. Once you plea bargain down from a mere 4 years maximum, what is there left that's at all meaningful? And really, his plea to preserve Michael's "legacy" seems more like a veiled appeal not to ruin his earning power.

And oh, yes, the poor doctor. He writes about this as if Murray had responsibly prescribed medication to Michael, and Michael had swilled the whole bottle behind his back. In fact, Murray directly administered the fatal dose to Michael in the most grotesquely irresponsible fashion imaginable. I am sick of the media rationalizing Murray as as much a victim as Michael himself. Last I checked, Murray is the one still breathing. The way they keep trying to insist that Murray's blame is lessened just because others may have done the same before him makes me wonder whether journalism has the highest percentage of sociopaths of any profession on the planet.
 
Ahh, no offense but I fail to see what is so great about this article.
 
And oh, yes, the poor doctor. He writes about this as if Murray had responsibly prescribed medication to Michael, and Michael had swilled the whole bottle behind his back. In fact, Murray directly administered the fatal dose to Michael in the most grotesquely irresponsible fashion imaginable. I am sick of the media rationalizing Murray as as much a victim as Michael himself. Last I checked, Murray is the one still breathing. The way they keep trying to insist that Murray's blame is lessened just because others may have done the same before him makes me wonder whether journalism has the highest percentage of sociopaths of any profession on the planet.

:clapping::clapping::clapping:
 
I really don't care what this trail would try to expose and nothing wouldn't surprise me what Michael life style was real talk the entertainment world is not all glitter and gold It not the glamorous life at all MJ was surrounded by vultures and when people address this no body did nothing I get sick of hearing family so called friends etc of Michael’s talk about how he didn’t want to get help when he did get help wrote a song about it after that his life was going to turmoil he was pick on tormented with that case the inside media tired to bring and them and they fail sadly people who he tough had his best interested at heart killed him and he died with an broken heart “them” mischievous sprite demons failed him by god did god saw the best in Michael when all them demons only seen the worst in him. We love u Michael
 
But should this case go to trial, the doctor's defense lawyer (lawyers?) will no doubt try to paint a picture of Michael Jackson that his family, and certainly his own children, may not wish to hear: That the singer was apparently an addicted drug addict (certainly it would seem to the surgical anesthetic propofol); that many, many doctors before Dr. Murray was even hired contributed to the deceased superstar's addictive personality and lifestyle (not to mention who knows how many drug stores that gladly filled prescription after prescription, made up names or not); and, I'm afraid to say, even Jackson family members who may have, over the years, acted as enablers, all in the name of keeping the Michael Jackson performing machine going at full steam ahead, will probably become part of the defense argument.

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Suddenly, when it is not Michael who is to go on trial, they worry about his

reputation? Pleeease. This must be a joke.

If there are many many doctors, they should all be investigated and brought

to trial if necessary. Had there been anything ' sinister' about Michael's life,

it would have been on TV long time ago.

Shamone!
 
nothing they can say could make me love Michael less...maybe I will love him even more...come on!we stand here when Sneddon trash his life...this is nothing compared to the 2005 trial...you can't scare us!
 
i am a fan for 20 years. when i was a teenager and my English was close to zero, there was this scandal 93. and for a moment when listening to the news i hesitated and doubted him. Because the pressure of the media is really high on people's mind and especially young ones, especially when you know nothing but music. and at that moment i made a choice to believe my heart. And to believe what he says. Since then everything he said was confirmed. We always say that he lead a very private life but i dont really agree with that. he always allowed us into his life. people consider him weird because he talked too much and he was too open. He allowed us to know him. During the trial so much dirt was thrown at him, i have never ever witnessed anything like that and since then nothing can really surprises me. Journos that write articles like that are living in sticky fear of something themselves. I dont want to hear about their life, that's for sure.
 
What else can anyone do or say that is worse than what has been done already. Every vestige of privacy has been stripped away, the autopsy report shows the amount of medication that was in the house and in his system. As a fan I feel enourmous sympathy for a Michael who felt he needed anti anxiety medication, but after the relentless persecution he faced from the media and Sneddon etc. it is any wonder that he was not a relaxed, anxiety free soul.
 
I concur, murray needs to reap the consequence of his action. As i said what makes me mad is how murray try to cover up after he killed Michael.
 
The sad truth is that it probably will. But at the same time it may not. I'm waiting to see who will be the witnesses. All of the people in the past that have come forward saying things about Michael's drug use will probably be called to testify. If there was any truth to what they had to say, they will be under oath to tell that truth. If they change their story while on the stand, that could help Michael.
 
OF course that son of a b* is going to paint a picture of MJ and his kids. Pathetic loser's everything was exposed in 2005 already there is nothing left, the man isn't even here anymore. Murray should go to trial and to hell.
 
makes me laugh. we sat through a trial were mj was called a child abuser. where it went into great detail about what he supposedly did. what porn mags he read etc and some journos are now writing articles about this and trying to act like something horrible may come out about mj in the trial yeah right lol these journos wish there were gonna be juicy details for them. unfortunatly the autopsy report threw all that back down their throats. even now they are putting mj on trial. mj will be the only victim to not get a fair trial let alone the defendent
 
It really couldn't get any worse than the constant disgusting accusations by people that had no clue saying that he was a 'paedo.'
 
wHAT IN THE @#$% CAN BE SAID ABOUT MICHAEL NOW? Michael has been called everything but a child of god by people. I do not think nothing can be said to surpise no one.
 
Off the top of my head I can't think of anything that they could "expose" that hasn't already been said throughout the different trials. But with that said, I expect it to be an ugly trial, even if nothing new comes to light. It more than likely will be another very rough ride for Michael's family and all those that love him. :(
 
yeah the defence will try and play it dirty. just look at their p.r games now. the question is whether the judge allows it and how strong he is
 
There is absolutely nothing that can be said about Michael that we haven't already heard in the past....they have tried to destroy Michael's image in the past and he only comes back shinning brighter....I just feel bad for Michael , his children and his family that this kind of crap will be said.
 
I don't agree with alot of things in this article but it makes some interesting points. I think this should go to trial, murray doesn't deserve more special treatment.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/charles-feldman/jackson-doc-trial-likely_b_455561.html

Jackson Doc Trial Likely Will Be Prosecution of Singer: Does Family Really Want That?

February 9, 2010

I am a veteran.

Not of any wars. But I am a veteran of having covered not one but two O.J. Simpson trials (criminal and civil); one Robert Blake trial; and, one Michael Jackson trial. I think I know how defense lawyers think and have dealt with the best and worst of them. I also have a pretty good take on how prosecutors operate.

So, I will tell you right now and with no fear of contradiction: Should Dr. Conrad Murray's case on involuntary manslaughter charges ever go before a Los Angeles jury (and more about that a bit later), the doctor's defense lawyers, if they are any good (and I think his current one is!) will no doubt try and turn the trial into a prosecution of Michael Jackson.

Lawyers for O.J., in his criminal trial, zeroed in on the LAPD; while lawyers for Robert Blake took aim at his dead wife's, shall we say, "background."

I'm afraid that Michael Jackson's life is ripe for the defense picking.

Dr. Murray has pleaded not guilty to the charge against him. And, it is telling that, despite considerable pressure from Jackson's family and fan base, the Los Angeles County District Attorney correctly opted for the least possible criminal charge they could go for, involuntary manslaughter--which history shows is often the most difficult charge to actually prove in a court of law. Even if convicted, the maximum sentence is four years.

An eight month investigation....a relatively light criminal charge. (If any criminal charge can ever really be thought of as "light"?)

The California state Medical Board is reportedly considering whether to suspend Murray's medical license, but that would only stop him from practicing in California. He practices in Texas and Nevada, too.

Jackson's father, Joe, went on Larry King to say that "I was looking for justice, and justice, to me, would be a murder charge."

He went on to tell King, referring to Dr. Murray, "To me, he's just a fall guy. There's other people, I think involved with this whole thing."

On that, the senior Jackson may have a point, but not for the reason he thinks.

He seems to be implying some sort of sinister murder conspiracy aimed at his son, without offering, I hasten to add, any evidence, though that seldom stops talk shows from exploiting such comments for dramatic effect, not to mention ratings.

But should this case go to trial, the doctor's defense lawyer (lawyers?) will no doubt try to paint a picture of Michael Jackson that his family, and certainly his own children, may not wish to hear: That the singer was apparently an addicted drug addict (certainly it would seem to the surgical anesthetic propofol); that many, many doctors before Dr. Murray was even hired contributed to the deceased superstar's addictive personality and lifestyle (not to mention who knows how many drug stores that gladly filled prescription after prescription, made up names or not); and, I'm afraid to say, even Jackson family members who may have, over the years, acted as enablers, all in the name of keeping the Michael Jackson performing machine going at full steam ahead, will probably become part of the defense argument.

Yes, Joe Jackson is probably correct. Other people are involved in the singer's untimely death. In one way or another.

That is why I think it is probably in the best interests of justice, and Michael Jackson's reputation and legacy, that this case never go to trial. Dr. Murray is not likely to know all the previous medical people who played a role in Michael Jackson's addiction. Jackson's family and fans probably do not need to have Jackson's name dragged through the LA mud once again, as certainly it will be during any trial.

I understand that Dr. Murray wants to clear his name. He certainly enjoys the cloak of innocent until proven guilty that our criminal justice system provides. But if I were a prosecutor, I would push hard for a plea bargain, one that would strip the doctor of his ability to practice medicine. The poor doctor was apparently just the last link in a very long chain that, unintentionally, led to Jackson's death. It seems unfair to him that he should shoulder the entire burden. By the same token, Michael Jackson was, indeed, a victim, but one whose own hands had some blood on them. His small children have suffered enough. Do they really need to hear all the sordid details that will surely emerge about their dad's lifestyle should this case go to trial? I, for one, don't think so.

i for one dont agree with you, i think the trial should commence and that is because it is time to set an example for all these hollywood doctors to stop catering to stars with medications to keep them happy they wouldn't do it for us so not for them either . point proven , in the end the winds up being a lose of life. like drew pinsky says, intervention is the answer and Michael Jackson was a pioneer so maybe he will pioneer the ending of hollywood doctors preying on stars for cash and keeping the messed up cuz in the end we wind up losing the ones we love. look at Heath Ledger, Janis Joplin, anna nicole smith, marylin monroe and i could go on for hours. and we loved them all and some shady doctor gave them what they wanted and now they are gone. so i think this trial should go on in all its dirty laundry. cuz as a fan i cant believe there is to much else you could shock me with where michael jackson si concerned. please dont hate me for my opinion
 
Im not worried about Michael as nothing they can do can hurt him now. I do worry for the fans - though we are strong, it does hurt us and will be hard for us. MOSTLY I am worried for his kids. THey are shielded from all this now but as they get older, they will naturally want to go looking for what happened to their dad. I lost my dad in some very difficult circumstances when I was 8 and it was all hushed over. When i got old enough I went out looking for the truth and I read my own father's autopsy report at the age of 21. I then went on a mission for everything else. And I found some things that were hard to hear.....

I want murray to pay, but if it is at the expense of the fans and the kids - ????
 
I WANT MURRAY TO BE TRIED. They cannot say anything more that has not been said. They have said he is an addict, likes young b--, etc. and I still LOVE HIM. You do not love someone because they are ANGELS, if that is at all possible. HUMANS HAVE FAULTS, SECRETS, HIGHS AND LOWS. You love them regardless of these. I do not care if they show Michael played with his penis in public, slept in a tree, took all the drugs on earth, smuggled drugs, I WANT MURRAY TO BE TRIED. No sweeping this under the rug. I hope Cathrine's detectives come up with some more evidence.

Sorry, but the author seems to be writing from a perspective which shows he feels Michael is responsible for his death and that Murray is innocent, even though he tries to cover it up by stating he has been to many trials. Anyone gets that feeling? Further, this reminds me of rape victims. Do they not encourage them not to go to trial because the defense will bring up their background. To HELL WITH BACKGROUND. Life Is More Precious Than a BACKGROUND.
 
nothing they can say could make me love Michael less...maybe I will love him even more...come on!we stand here when Sneddon trash his life...this is nothing compared to the 2005 trial...you can't scare us!
I agree. If I could survive the nightmare of the 2005 trial, then I'm ready for almost anything really.

I don't care. We need answers and most importantly the truth and No one ever said it would be easy.
 
Whatever is said won't change how I feel about Michael. They can't hurt him anymore. Murray will do anything to save himself and anything he and his lawyers do will show that. Murray needs to be held accountable for his actions.
 
The people who know Michael and know his heart will never think otherwise of him. Always been that way, always will.
As for his kids, I pray for them, but they're intelligent and have so much love for him.
 
Suddenly, when it is not Michael who is to go on trial, they worry about his

reputation? Pleeease. This must be a joke.

If there are many many doctors, they should all be investigated and brought

to trial if necessary. Had there been anything ' sinister' about Michael's life,

it would have been on TV long time ago.

Shamone!

:clapping::clapping::clapping::clapping::clapping:

i mean what more can they come up with to change our opinion of Michael:agree:

We've heard all the lies and we are still supporting Michael relentlessly.
:hug: to everyone.
 
What is left? They flayed Michael in 2005. In 1993 he had to stand in a room naked while strangers took pictures of him. What is left?

You know, we all have our eccentricities and things we wished we hadn't done in the past. How would any of us fair if every secret, every eccentricity, every unkind or inappropriate thing we had ever done was exposed to the world. It is inhuman, the way he was treated. I really don't think it could get any worse.
 
What is left? They flayed Michael in 2005. In 1993 he had to stand in a room naked while strangers took pictures of him. What is left?

You know, we all have our eccentricities and things we wished we hadn't done in the past. How would any of us fair if every secret, every eccentricity, every unkind or inappropriate thing we had ever done was exposed to the world. It is inhuman, the way he was treated. I really don't think it could get any worse.

So true. At least one would think.

I want a trial because I think its the only way we will really know what happened but I also think its going to be very nasty.
 
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