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Controversial MJ Documentary Leaving Neverland [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

Big Apple NYC said:
Good for Madonna. Never one to bite her tongue, I like her response. She's been in the game long enough to know how the "vultures" get down.

In my opinion, she handled the questions correctly. I have a feeling that a bunch of OTHER A-Listers feel the same way as Madge, but don't know how to articulate their answers like she did. Good for you Madonna, Good for you!!!!!!

Dan Reed is going to be pissed when he finds out that Madonna is NOT on his side!!! LOL. I wish I could see his face.

P.S. A few days ago, Madonna received an award from Glaad. I swear the jacket she was wearing was a "shout-out" to Michael. Did anyone else notice the jacket she was wearing?
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I agree 100 percent that many feel the way she feel. She said it PERFECT. And if you take her questions and run it down, it will reveal Wade/james are liars even down to the question "acutual events" which people can also lie. Who did that? JAMES-trains station. And let not start on Wade's lies.
 
And Madonna said OPENLY "I HAVE NO LYNCH MOB MENTALITY". Girl. You put everyone on blast with that one.
 
terrell said:
And Madonna said OPENLY "I HAVE NO LYNCH MOB MENTALITY". Girl. You put everyone on blast with that one.
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She certainly did!!!!

And since it's Madonna, this interview will "probably" get some traction. Which is great!!!

What she say: "SOMETIMES PEOPLE LIE!!!" "CAN YOU PROVE IT????????" I freakin love that.
 
Big Apple NYC said:
She certainly did!!!!

And since it's Madonna, this interview will "probably" get some traction. Which is great!!!

What she say: "SOMETIMES PEOPLE LIE!!!" "CAN YOU PROVE IT????????" I freakin love that.
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It is making it rounds. She did a "Babe Ruth". Hit it Straight out of the park and she also made herself part of the example how people can lie. I LOVED IT.
 
terrell said:
It is making it rounds. She did a "Babe Ruth". Hit it Straight out of the park and she also made herself part of the example how people can lie. I LOVED IT.
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Great News!!!!

Safechuck can have Heather Graham (apparently she believed his made-up story). WE HAVE MADONNA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OH AND: I absolutely love your "Babe Ruth" line. It's right on point.
 
Just wanted to share this thread w/ you guys, it shows that some people see this whole mess through , like the lovely Amber Khan:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Have we realized yet that cancel culture is just another way for the establishment to use us against each other? <br><br>A thread.</p>&mdash; Khan, Amber (@AmberKhan) <a href="https://twitter.com/AmberKhan/status/1119168895871533056?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 19, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">There are a lot of people out here getting a lot of press and the full support of all platforms and they are openly in favor of discrimination. <a href="https://twitter.com/SamHarrisOrg?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@SamHarrisOrg</a> comes to mind. I&#8217;ll include screen recordings in a sec.</p>&mdash; Khan, Amber (@AmberKhan) <a href="https://twitter.com/AmberKhan/status/1119169105699975168?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 19, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">There are men like <a href="https://twitter.com/joerogan?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@joerogan</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/billmaher?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@billmaher</a> that have been spreading subtle and not so subtle anti-Muslim propaganda for a while. Just the other day Joe was making fun of gay black men as a prop. Bill says the N word on air... no one is canceled. We&#8217;re just over here canceling</p>&mdash; Khan, Amber (@AmberKhan) <a href="https://twitter.com/AmberKhan/status/1119169609087713281?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 19, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Ourselves. You know <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/HarveyWeinstein?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#HarveyWeinstein</a> got off, right? You think that mf isn&#8217;t still involved in making movies? <br><br>Nobody canceled him. You see what I&#8217;m getting at..?</p>&mdash; Khan, Amber (@AmberKhan) <a href="https://twitter.com/AmberKhan/status/1119169858053246976?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 19, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It&#8217;s a good idea... but so easy to use the wrong way. And it looks like the only people actually being canceled are the ones the establishment wants gone. And in other cases, they&#8217;re blatantly using the trend to carry out vendettas. Look at the Mj stuff. *crickets*</p>&mdash; Khan, Amber (@AmberKhan) <a href="https://twitter.com/AmberKhan/status/1119170201126350848?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 19, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Now, I&#8217;m not saying that there aren&#8217;t people who should be called out... it just seems like a fool that&#8217;s being used against the culture while the true purveyors of really heinous rhetoric are celebrated or saved from persecution at the least. <br><br>See what I&#8217;m saying?</p>&mdash; Khan, Amber (@AmberKhan) <a href="https://twitter.com/AmberKhan/status/1119170592215838720?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 19, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Take anything <a href="https://twitter.com/SamHarrisOrg?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@SamHarrisOrg</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/joerogan?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@joerogan</a> or <a href="https://twitter.com/billmaher?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@billmaher</a> talk about and replace the word Muslim for Jew and see what happens. It&#8217;s tacit hate speech and no one is canceling them. Also, if this shit was anything other than a tool of the establishment....</p>&mdash; Khan, Amber (@AmberKhan) <a href="https://twitter.com/AmberKhan/status/1119170948685545472?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 19, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The most canceled person in the world wouldn&#8217;t be president ... maybe for two terms. <br><br>See... this is all a movement to use us against us. Stay woke. &#55358;&#56831;</p>&mdash; Khan, Amber (@AmberKhan) <a href="https://twitter.com/AmberKhan/status/1119171155749949445?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 19, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
Big Apple NYC said:
Great News!!!!

Safechuck can have Heather Graham (apparently she believed his made-up story). WE HAVE MADONNA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OH AND: I absolutely love your "Babe Ruth" line. It's right on point.
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Praise Madonna for being on a winning side. As for Heather, she's officially a dumb b:censored: now for sucking up poison by these backstabbing MFers.
 
Big Apple NYC said:
Great News!!!!

Safechuck can have Heather Graham (apparently she believed his made-up story). WE HAVE MADONNA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OH AND: I absolutely love your "Babe Ruth" line. It's right on point.
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And who is going to get the most attention? Heather or Madonna? Enuf said.
 
PoP said:
Praise Madonna for being on a winning side. As for Heather, she's officially a dumb b:censored: now for sucking up poison by these backstabbing MFers.
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I do not even know who she is until you all told me about her.
 
I watched the videos of the lawyers (of the Estate).
I wonder how they will expose LN during the arbitration.
They gave nothing new about the film.
 

so wade gave the book to the 3 red highlighted publishers. has anyone contacted them to ask them for more information?

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But will Madonna change her mind after she watches LN? That's the question.
 
Anna said:
But will Madonna change her mind after she watches LN? That's the question.
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I think she already knows. At this point, u do not have to see it to know what was said. the main points can be read. No one has to sit down for 4 hours to see lies. Plus, she know MJ's personality. MJ was too shy to kiss her in 1991. Enuf said.
 
Anna, I was wondering that too as she said she would get round to watching it. Her head seems pretty screwed on though.
 
terrell said:
I think she already knows. At this point, u do not have to see it to know what was said. the main points can be read. No one has to sit down for 4 hours to see lies. Plus, she know MJ's personality. MJ was too shy to kiss her in 1991. Enuf said.
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Exactly.
 
I ****ing love how she says she doesn't have a lynch mob mentality, exactly what we want to hear! I also didn't forget her speech during some big MTV show after he died. Her speech gave me chills.
 
terrell said:
I think she already knows. At this point, u do not have to see it to know what was said. the main points can be read. No one has to sit down for 4 hours to see lies. Plus, she know MJ's personality. MJ was too shy to kiss her in 1991. Enuf said.
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They don't have to. But they do. Reading summaries about it and watching it are completely different experiences. The words can't emotionally manipulate like the film does. Manipulation that was strong enough to convince some long term fans and sow seeds of doubt in people who knew Michael.


WannaScream said:
Anna, I was wondering that too as she said she would get round to watching it. Her head seems pretty screwed on though.
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Let's hope so. If the backlash doesn't make her recant, this might encourage others to speak out.
 
Madonna stands up for Michael Jackson over sex abuse claims in Leaving Neverland
The star says she knows what it is like to face "thousands of allegations" and that she does not have a "lynch-mob mentality".
https://news.sky.com/story/madonna-...ex-abuse-claims-in-leaving-neverland-11713883

Madonna insists everyone is 'innocent until proven guilty' as she becomes the latest celebrity to stand up for Michael Jackson over Leaving Neverland sex abuse allegations
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...nt-proven-guilty-defends-Michael-Jackson.html

We should try to let Madonna know (before she even watches LN) that the whole film was already debunked, that train station did not exist, etc.
 
Anna said:
They don't have to. But they do. Reading summaries about it and watching it are completely different experiences. The words can't emotionally manipulate like the film does. Manipulation that was strong enough to convince some long term fans and sow seeds of doubt in people who knew Michael.



Let's hope so. If the backlash doesn't make her recant, this might encourage others to speak out.
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The "shock" has worn off and now people are examining it as I say people will do. Look even at Jussie. People went off UNTIL questions start to raise and start being examine.
 
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"John Ziegler Leaving Neverland Update : LA School Auditorium Decision : ? Star Wars Bonus? ?" from 3T Fanchannel

1.665 views on May 8 2019


A great comment under the video:

"People say:''How could u know MJ didn't do anything like that? U act like u know him, because you're a fan of his music.'' I'll say:''Well u act like u know Wade&James, just because you're a fan of sexually abused people coming out!''

"MADONNA DEFENDS MICHAEL JACKSON" from "inaworldoflove"

1.557 views on May 8 2019


I think its a great idea to share this video istead of a link to a page from a MJhater tabloid and help them to earn money with Michael!
 
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Arckangel said:
Madonna stands up for Michael Jackson over sex abuse claims in Leaving Neverland
The star says she knows what it is like to face "thousands of allegations" and that she does not have a "lynch-mob mentality".
https://news.sky.com/story/madonna-...ex-abuse-claims-in-leaving-neverland-11713883

Madonna insists everyone is 'innocent until proven guilty' as she becomes the latest celebrity to stand up for Michael Jackson over Leaving Neverland sex abuse allegations
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...nt-proven-guilty-defends-Michael-Jackson.html

We should try to let Madonna know (before she even watches LN) that the whole film was already debunked, that train station did not exist, etc.
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Absolutely. But even if she were to watch it, she's a smart enough woman to see through this. But knowing the history of these two fake assholes will definitely help a great deal.
 
terrell said:
LN has lost steam. People start to see the BS.
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Yep and their little attempt to "mute MJ," is not working. As a matter of fact, I would go so far as to say their attempt FAILED. Thank God!!!

Absolutely agree about "people seeing the BS," and then came that lovely TRAIN STATION STORY. That was the icing on the cake for many.

The person who took the hardest hit, in my humble opinion, was Ms. Oprah Winfrey. She thought everybody was going to get in "formation" behind her, no questions asked. Oprah Played Herself!!!!! She found out just how many folks DO NOT care for her and her antics (which includes what she did to Monique).
 
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More proof to how vindictive and a complete rude b*tch CObrah can be, from none other than the supreme leader herself, Anjelica Houston:

Skip to 01:52 mark:
https://youtu.be/b7Qc2GyhMsw

 
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terrell said:
LN has lost steam. People start to see the BS.
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Some people see through it and others are totally convinced by it. Those who are convinced are going to fight against anything pro-MJ.

LN has lost steam in the same way that Surviving R Kelly lost steam. People see a documentary/film, chat about it for a minute then move on with their lives. The effects of the show live on in those people and will keep coming back.

You better believe that reporters will bring this up again and again, and that Wade (probably not James) will release a statement every time an MJ event happens. So yes expect Wade to say something in June. I anticipate a LN book release later this year (Wade's rejected book must look much more appealing to publishers right now). While Wade can earn money and retain his "relevance" by being a "victim" I think he'll just keep playing the media.

Without a totally convincing and socially accepted rebuttal LN will loom over MJ's posthumous career for years to come, just like almost every media report through the 90s (and beyond actually) mentioned the 93 settlement.
 
Big Apple NYC said:
Yep and their little attempt to "mute MJ," is not working. As a matter of fact, I would go so far as to say their attempt FAILED. Thank God!!!

Absolutely agree about "people seeing the BS," and then came that lovely TRAIN STATION STORY. That was the icing on the cake for many.

The person who took the hardest hit, in my humble opinion, was Ms. Oprah Winfrey. She thought everybody was going to get in "formation" behind her, no questions asked. Oprah Played Herself!!!!! She found out just how many folks DO NOT care for her and her antics (which includes what she did to Monique).
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So true. Also, the Parents keeping MJ's name on the school was another icing on the cake. The media was banking on that but lost big time on that as well. CBS in LA had to nerve to say they could not find anyone who supported the name staying. that bursted them out as LIARS or media who talked to one or two people and wanted to make it seem they talked to everyone. the media does not know nothing. These are the same media who said/acted that Hiliary Clinton was going to win (and we saw what happen).
 
Some people see through it and others are totally convinced by it. Those who are convinced are going to fight against anything pro-MJ.


Then those are people who do not want to see the truth. They often ALREADY had bias against MJ. I can understand someone questioning because they do not follow the case since 1993 but when everything about these guys come out, their lies, changing stories,trying to hide stuff like Dating Brandi, etc., GOOD THINKING PEOPLE will see through it. People who defend these clowns can not do it with a straight face. Even Oprah looked more stupid on the Trevor show with her explanation. I do not care what she say out of her mouth, Oprah knows she messed up big time. Even her saying "this was not about MJ" sound stupid and dumb.
 
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