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Controversial MJ Documentary Leaving Neverland [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

Nah. i'm just alittle annoy at some fans now. it's understandable since this year been a mess for Michael etc. but some fans really getting on my nerves....
 
myosotis;4266649 said:
“The only thing I can say is that I can’t really say anything and the reason for that is I can’t be helpful to anyone,” said Kieran. “To me, it seems like there’s two sides to this thing and because I can’t be helpful on one side or the other, anything I say and anything that gets put out in print could only hurt somebody and there’s already a lot of really hurt feelings.

“There are already a lot of people who are in a difficult position and if I contribute in any way, it’s just going to hurt someone because I can’t actually help.”
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In my humble opinion, Kieran is talking in circles, using a whole bunch of words, that have no real meaning.

BUT, Kieran does have a show on HBO and he ain't trying to rock that HBO paycheck. Renewed for Season 3, and trying to snag some of that Games of Thrones audience.

All those meaningless words are just an attempt to protect himself. He could have just talked about his personal experience with Michael and being at Neverland, but that probably would have ended up being way, way, way too positive. So he basically took The Fifth!!! Just my little ole opinion.
 
Big Apple NYC said:
In my humble opinion, Kieran is talking in circles, using a whole bunch of words, that have no real meaning.

BUT, Kieran does have a show on HBO and he ain't trying to rock that HBO paycheck. Renewed for Season 3, and trying to snag some of that Games of Thrones audience.

All those meaningless words are just an attempt to protect himself. He could have just talked about his personal experience with Michael and being at Neverland, but that probably would have ended up being way, way, way too positive. So he basically took The Fifth!!! Just my little ole opinion.
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Very, very good point. He has reasons to not be too positive and friendly about MJ then. It's a damn shame but it's also apparently how the world works for some. I agree with someone else here though that at least he isn't acting like Sheryl Crow.
 
NatureCriminal7896 said:
Nah. i'm just alittle annoy at some fans now. it's understandable since this year been a mess for Michael etc. but some fans really getting on my nerves....
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it has been a bad year for MJ but it also understandable that hurt feelings run deep, especially were them three are concerned, I for one am never going to settle till they are brought to some sort of justice
 
Big Apple NYC said:
In my humble opinion, Kieran is talking in circles, using a whole bunch of words, that have no real meaning.

BUT, Kieran does have a show on HBO and he ain't trying to rock that HBO paycheck. Renewed for Season 3, and trying to snag some of that Games of Thrones audience.

All those meaningless words are just an attempt to protect himself. He could have just talked about his personal experience with Michael and being at Neverland, but that probably would have ended up being way, way, way too positive. So he basically took The Fifth!!! Just my little ole opinion.
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I fully agree, I did say earlier I didn't think it was very helpful, I just don't think it would have done any harm to say that MJ hadn't done anything to him, I really don't think its the time to be sitting on the fence about this. it also seems to be that the celebrities that have new songs or movies coming out wont say anything helpful, or they will make up crap that didn't even happen
 
Alh21 said:
I fully agree, I did say earlier I didn't think it was very helpful, I just don't think it would have done any harm to say that MJ hadn't done anything to him, I really don't think its the time to be sitting on the fence about this. it also seems to be that the celebrities that have new songs or movies coming out wont say anything helpful, or they will make up crap that didn't even happen
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I agree, BUT we live in a PC (Political Correct) World now and everybody (well most people anyway) are afraid to say anything that "might" get them called out. It's a dang shame that folks are afraid to be truthful for fear of being attacked by the media and/or on Social Media. And I'm not just talking about MJ.

Most of these famous folks have to check with 3-4 of their "people" before they can say anything positive regarding Michael Jackson and usually end up saying nothing at all. There are a few brave ones, but not many, in my opinion.
 
Big Apple NYC said:
I agree, BUT we live in a PC (Political Correct) World now and everybody (well most people anyway) are afraid to say anything that "might" get them called out. It's a dang shame that folks are afraid to be truthful for fear of being attacked by the media and/or on Social Media. And I'm not just talking about MJ.

Most of these famous folks have to check with 3-4 of their "people" before they can say anything positive regarding Michael Jackson and usually end up saying nothing at all. There are a few brave ones, but not many, in my opinion.
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mine as well, its a very sad world we live in when its easier to throw good decent people to the wolves, it breaks my heart
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Make no mistake about this. Raymone Bain's announcement gained traction because the press thought that there would be a new accuser. This goes to show they have done NO research on Bain, who defended Jackson after Leaving Neverland premiered.</p>&mdash; andjustice4some (@andjustice4some) <a href="https://twitter.com/andjustice4some/status/1164565346319097856?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">22. August 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">P.s we all know the pic is photoshop. Who cares? Focus on what was said. Shes speaking up against the allegations, which we know alot of people are scared to do, I salute her for her bravery.</p>&mdash; Zeee (@xZeeex) <a href="https://twitter.com/xZeeex/status/1164582885556441088?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">22. August 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Redemption: The Movie Investor's Conference. Be a part of history..CLEARING MICHAEL JACKSON'S NAME...COMING SOON!</p>&mdash; Geraldine Hughes (@Redemption_mj) <a href="https://twitter.com/Redemption_mj/status/1164223012368859136?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">21. August 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">An absolute Pappy-kilig moment for me&#128513;&#128514;&#128077;&#127996;&#9829;&#65039;&#128591;&#127996; So Leila’s watching a performance of Michael Jackson. <br>Listen to what she says....&#128584;&#128077;&#127996;&#128513;&#128378;&#127997;<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/theprincessandherpappy?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#theprincessandherpappy</a> <a href="https://t.co/5NDHa6Cc6i">pic.twitter.com/5NDHa6Cc6i</a></p>&mdash; GARY VALENCIANO (@GaryValenciano1) <a href="https://twitter.com/GaryValenciano1/status/1164438156772429824?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">22. August 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">That awkward moment when <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/DanReed?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#DanReed</a> makes this... and then erases the tweet <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/LiesOfLeavingNeverland?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#LiesOfLeavingNeverland</a> <a href="https://t.co/E9gc4izgGD">pic.twitter.com/E9gc4izgGD</a></p>&mdash; Nicolas Brown (@brown88_nicolas) <a href="https://twitter.com/brown88_nicolas/status/1164295332919959553?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">21. August 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Russian music TV channel is going to show <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChaseTheTruth?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChaseTheTruth</a> on August 31st <a href="https://twitter.com/mikesmallcombe1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@mikesmallcombe1</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/MattFiddesUK?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@MattFiddesUK</a> <a href="https://t.co/7Dy3tnItmX">https://t.co/7Dy3tnItmX</a></p>&mdash; sirayflo (@sirayflo) <a href="https://twitter.com/sirayflo/status/1164427507455725568?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">22. August 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Michael’s music waking up the whole HBCU campus warms my heart <a href="https://t.co/Fyh9do07V1">pic.twitter.com/Fyh9do07V1</a></p>&mdash; &#1611; (@giveintomestan) <a href="https://twitter.com/giveintomestan/status/1164244834829373444?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">21. August 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">So he helped support the accusations of both Safechuck and Robson due to self interest. Theroux's own programs helped to rehabilitate Jimmy Savile's image. An unbelievable admission by Theroux. Time and time again, people throw MJ under the bus for their own agenda. <a href="https://t.co/ypHbXNhyXe">https://t.co/ypHbXNhyXe</a></p>&mdash; andjustice4some (@andjustice4some) <a href="https://twitter.com/andjustice4some/status/1164593016348110849?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">22. August 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="und" dir="ltr">&#9996;&#127997;&#9994;&#127997;<br>^Q <a href="https://t.co/2ExcuP62NA">https://t.co/2ExcuP62NA</a></p>&mdash; The MJCast (@TheMJCast) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheMJCast/status/1164267186963148800?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">21. August 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Well ... well... Michael Lee Bush ... pushing back against Sheryl Crow ?? ahem ahem <a href="https://t.co/i8SBrETO2F">pic.twitter.com/i8SBrETO2F</a></p>&mdash; MJJJusticeProject (@MJJJusticePrjct) <a href="https://twitter.com/MJJJusticePrjct/status/1164565815829467137?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">22. August 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I actually got a bit emotional watching her press conference. No matter what people think of her, she did something that the Estate haven't done and that is hold a press conference defending MJ. <a href="https://t.co/Kyw0TS7Xgr">https://t.co/Kyw0TS7Xgr</a></p>&mdash; Kathryn (@Kathrynbee12) <a href="https://twitter.com/Kathrynbee12/status/1164574200008495106?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">22. August 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="und" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SQUAREONEMOVIE?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SQUAREONEMOVIE</a> <a href="https://t.co/MFqnoMZUMx">https://t.co/MFqnoMZUMx</a></p>&mdash; Danny Wu (@dannywuyue) <a href="https://twitter.com/dannywuyue/status/1164613880514920448?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 22, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> this is what I was on about earlier, it looks very exciting
 
Alh21;4266742 said:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="und" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SQUAREONEMOVIE?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SQUAREONEMOVIE</a> <a href="https://t.co/MFqnoMZUMx">https://t.co/MFqnoMZUMx</a></p>&mdash; Danny Wu (@dannywuyue) <a href="https://twitter.com/dannywuyue/status/1164613880514920448?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 22, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> this is what I was on about earlier, it looks very exciting
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Josephine Zohny, who knew JC from university is going to be in this one. She confirmed it on twitter.
 
Alh21;4266679 said:
I have no idea, I haven't seen anything in the news, I was just about to read the replies as I didn't get chance before I posted it. the post doesn't seem to be aimed at anyone as it doesn't seem to be a reply to anyone in particular, nothing definite in the comments as to if its true or not
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He was replying to this:

<samp class="EmbedCode-container"><code class="EmbedCode-code"><blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Ooh that’ll be why <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/DanReed?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#DanReed</a> needed a police escort after his speech in Edinburgh today.... <a href="https://t.co/GwOIECrSxF">https://t.co/GwOIECrSxF</a></p>&mdash; KerryWard (@DrFallAgainMJ) <a href="https://twitter.com/DrFallAgainMJ/status/1164266372924432387?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 21, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> </code></samp>
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Catch <a href="https://twitter.com/LiamMcEwan?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@LiamMcEwan</a> and me on Live now! <a href="https://t.co/Bxsu09nkHS">https://t.co/Bxsu09nkHS</a></p>&mdash; Danny Wu (@dannywuyue) <a href="https://twitter.com/dannywuyue/status/1164625324598018048?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 22, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> just in case anyone may want to listen, I don't think its started yet
 
Alh21;4266742 said:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="und" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SQUAREONEMOVIE?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SQUAREONEMOVIE</a> <a href="https://t.co/MFqnoMZUMx">https://t.co/MFqnoMZUMx</a></p>&mdash; Danny Wu (@dannywuyue) <a href="https://twitter.com/dannywuyue/status/1164613880514920448?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 22, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> this is what I was on about earlier, it looks very exciting
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I saw this posted on Facebook, not a video though and I was afraid more bullshit was gonna appear but this could actually be huge, very much in favor of MJ too.

If it's true that they have evidence it could finally let the rest of the world wake the hell up and see how Mike was the victim from the start of all this.

I do hope that woman in the video saying she spoke to Jordan has evidence of this. Otherwise there will be those people that say "anyone can claim they spoke to him." we will have to wait and see.
 
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Staffordshire Bullterrier said:
I do hope that woman in the video saying she spoke to Jordan has evidence of this. Otherwise there will be those people that say "anyone can claim they spoke to him." we will have to wait and see.
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OR, he, himself would have to come out and say: "I never said THAT to her." Which I doubt, because he's like ghost and would probably crumble under the pressure. He continues to stay in the shadows, never saying a word in public.

I'm sure Tom Sneddon tried EVERYTHING in the book, while trying to get Jordan Chandler to testify, but no haps, Nada Colada.

In my opinion, this COULD be the start of something huge. "Starting From The Beginning and BOOM!!!!!!!"
 
Don't post article content without sources, please. Your post may be removed.
 
I miss it like i said i gone to. what i miss? was it good? cause if it wasn't then maybe it was a good thing i missed it.
 
Alh21 said:
mine as well, its a very sad world we live in when its easier to throw good decent people to the wolves, it breaks my heart
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It's the world we live in now. can't help it. i wish this world never gotten like this. this world always been bad but nowadays it's getting worst and worst everyday. i swear this world scare the carp out of me. that's why i'm so quiet. just like Michael was, quiet. because if you think it bad for you to speak up. just think of Michael, that's gotta be 10 times worst. i think that's one the reasons why Michael didn't speak out much and stay quiet. this world is crazy. say something and you probably killed etc. it's all really sad. and of course Michael was black too.
 
Big Apple NYC said:
OR, he, himself would have to come out and say: "I never said THAT to her." Which I doubt, because he's like ghost and would probably crumble under the pressure. He continues to stay in the shadows, never saying a word in public.

I'm sure Tom Sneddon tried EVERYTHING in the book, while trying to get Jordan Chandler to testify, but no haps, Nada Colada.

In my opinion, this COULD be the start of something huge. "Starting From The Beginning and BOOM!!!!!!!"
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I agree. I believe there is going to be a big blessing and silver lining in for all this for MJ.
 
Big Apple NYC said:
OR, he, himself would have to come out and say: "I never said THAT to her." Which I doubt, because he's like ghost and would probably crumble under the pressure. He continues to stay in the shadows, never saying a word in public.

I'm sure Tom Sneddon tried EVERYTHING in the book, while trying to get Jordan Chandler to testify, but no haps, Nada Colada.

In my opinion, this COULD be the start of something huge. "Starting From The Beginning and BOOM!!!!!!!"
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Josephine Zohny knew him from university. She was on the defense list in 05. They were in the same program. She said before she was ready to speak up if the family or a legal counsel contacted her.
 
Anna said:
It wasn't you and by souce I just mean a link to the article.
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May I clarify if tabloid article links are to be posted now? I was sure that I had read an instruction not to post them....
 
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