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Controversial MJ Documentary Leaving Neverland [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

Big Apple NYC said:
A LITTLE OFF TOPIC, BUT NOT BY MUCH:

Looks like Lisa Bloom and her Momma (Gloria Allred) are experiencing a little "What Goes Around, Comes Around."

There's a new book out called "She Said:...," wherein a memo from Lisa Bloom to Harvey Weinstein is detailed and in said memo Bloom is laying out how to DISCREDIT two of Weinstein's accusers, namely Rose McGowan and Ashley Judd.

Bloom actually outlines how to damage Ms. McGowan's reputation, suggesting that: "they can place an article re Rose becoming increasingly unglued, so that WHEN SOMEONE GOOGLES HER THIS IS WHAT POPS UP and she's discredited."

Folks are, rightfully, calling for Bloom to be disbarred. She's being ripped to shreds by ALL sides, especially on her Twitter page.

As has been said: "What's Done In The Dark, ALWAYS COMES TO LIGHT!!"

P.S. That "Google" part sounds familiar, doesn't it!
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Don't remind me of those glorified brides of devil b:censored:es, including that moron Rose McGowan.
 
Exactly. This is nothing compaired to 93,03. You guys are the ones going on about it. the public stopped caring along time ago
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Someone has just flopped. <a href="https://t.co/5u8zJguyrX">https://t.co/5u8zJguyrX</a></p>&mdash; Justice for The Falsely Accused (@JuliaBerkowitz1) <a href="https://twitter.com/JuliaBerkowitz1/status/1171257288797167616?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">10. September 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">My support for <a href="https://twitter.com/tajjackson3?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@tajjackson3</a> and the entire Jackson family is unwavering. In fact, I've told several of them this in person. I'd love to attend. Marking Sept. 28th on my digital calendar as we speak. &#128420; <a href="https://t.co/RbK9vc0Ij6">https://t.co/RbK9vc0Ij6</a></p>&mdash; Elgin Charles (@ElginCharles) <a href="https://twitter.com/ElginCharles/status/1171249194612535296?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">10. September 2019</a></blockquote>
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NatureCriminal7896 said:
Guys this been happening for decades. i'm sure after all of this is over things will go back to normal.
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You would hope that anyone with half a brain would think twice about trying to make false allegation's against MJ in the future, unless they want the same thing to happen to them as what is happening with the other two scumbags. I hope after the stupid appeal gets thrown out again us as fans can have peace and Michael can be left alone
 
I honestly think the general public have moved past this documentary now.

I was at a protest in Manchester 2 weekends ago and I heard Off The Wall playing quite loudly during it and people were dancing. The only people still making a fuss of this is the media, every day it's another "shocking" Michael headline I'm like, give it a rest nobody cares.

If Taj's doc goes ahead it will go with little fan-fare and zero promotion. LN was just a media hit piece nothing more.
 
Big Apple NYC said:
A LITTLE OFF TOPIC, BUT NOT BY MUCH:

Looks like Lisa Bloom and her Momma (Gloria Allred) are experiencing a little "What Goes Around, Comes Around."

There's a new book out called "She Said:...," wherein a memo from Lisa Bloom to Harvey Weinstein is detailed and in said memo Bloom is laying out how to DISCREDIT two of Weinstein's accusers, namely Rose McGowan and Ashley Judd.

Bloom actually outlines how to damage Ms. McGowan's reputation, suggesting that: "they can place an article re Rose becoming increasingly unglued, so that WHEN SOMEONE GOOGLES HER THIS IS WHAT POPS UP and she's discredited."

Folks are, rightfully, calling for Bloom to be disbarred. She's being ripped to shreds by ALL sides, especially on her Twitter page.

As has been said: "What's Done In The Dark, ALWAYS COMES TO LIGHT!!"

P.S. That "Google" part sounds familiar, doesn't it!
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I always say these people have their demons. And this does seem to be what they are doing to MJ when it comes to google. I notice some like Variety/LA times post the same stories that come up twice that they post when u google MJ's name.
 
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Smooth72;4268614 said:
That dumb ass doesn’t even realize he rapped on a fake ass MJ song. Remember Monster 50?
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terrell said:
I always say these people have their demons. And this does seem to be what they are doing to MJ when it comes to google. I notice some like Variety/LA times post the same stories that come up twice that they post when u google MJ's name.
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The media has the same crap written inside but they change the headline slightly, or they use clip bait headlines. I saw a story about NL and the animal playground that Michael had for children, an hour later the sun newspaper added to their headline peado Jackson, same story but a disgusting headline. I have certainly had my eyes opened were the media is concerned since all this started, don't get me wrong I knew half the stuff they wrote was rubbish but since reading The Michael Jackson conspiracy book I didn't know how much the press left out and how they didn't print half the stuff that went on in the court room, all that just to make Michael look bad. one example: the day Michael went to court in his PJ bottoms it was put all over the news that it was a publicity stunt but that wasn't true at all. ive now figured out that any news stories that appear on my phone I can actually choose not to see it, that's exactly what I'm doing
 
NatureCriminal7896 said:
To be honest i don't think Michael would liked social media. knowing Michael past he would get bullied everyday.:cry: his family would of have to disabled comments and if he did get comments his family would have to make sure he doesn't see the hurtful comments. :(
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8701girl said:
i feel sorry for rose mcgowan i dont think shes behind of hating on mj
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You can feel sorry for her, but I refuse to, it's either her own hatred or her mind is being poisoned.
 
PoP;4268929 said:
You can feel sorry for her, but I refuse to, it's either her own hatred or her mind is being poisoned.
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I'm going to have to go and read what's going on with this rose woman, just so I'm in the loop. Read the first few lines and yes she's an idiot

&#8220;Why on Earth would anybody want to come out and expose themselves to so much hate if they weren&#8217;t trying to regain some control in their own life? Control that has been robbed and stolen?&#8221; she said, wtf is this statement about, does she actually know how much these two idiots are trying to sue the estate for, if I stood to gain that amount of money by making up a pack of lies then yes I would take the abuse, its just thankful that I don't lie and certainly wouldn't make up crap like that. this sort of stuff makes my blood boil, it really does
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">No, You hit a nerve cause of your proud ignorance. <br>Lets start going through the titles and lyrics of some other famous rock and roll stars. <br>I’ll start..<br>“Well she was just seventeen, if you know what I mean.”</p>&mdash; Taj Jackson (@tajjackson3) <a href="https://twitter.com/tajjackson3/status/1171571187215822848?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">10. September 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Really getting annoyed with the ignorant logic that MJ fans would just simply excuse pedophillia because we love his music! What kind of people do you think we are?! There’s something wrong with anyone who thinks this way! Find some hard evidence to these claims and we’ll talk! <a href="https://t.co/EN3HAqf2LX">pic.twitter.com/EN3HAqf2LX</a></p>&mdash; Mayah (@MayahCamara) <a href="https://twitter.com/MayahCamara/status/1171774098936094726?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">11. September 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The sheer ignorance of this is mind boggling. For 50 to claim that MJ supporters are blinded his music, as if decades of research delving into court docs and every possible nook and cranny of the allegations wasn't examined is not only ludicrous, it's flat out offensive. <a href="https://t.co/VHI1ReqSVC">https://t.co/VHI1ReqSVC</a></p>&mdash; andjustice4some (@andjustice4some) <a href="https://twitter.com/andjustice4some/status/1171642801332936705?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">11. September 2019</a></blockquote>
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Alh21;4268930 said:
I'm going to have to go and read what's going on with this rose woman, just so I'm in the loop. Read the first few lines and yes she's an idiot

&#8220;Why on Earth would anybody want to come out and expose themselves to so much hate if they weren&#8217;t trying to regain some control in their own life? Control that has been robbed and stolen?&#8221; she said, wtf is this statement about, does she actually know how much these two idiots are trying to sue the estate for, if I stood to gain that amount of money by making up a pack of lies then yes I would take the abuse, its just thankful that I don't lie and certainly wouldn't make up crap like that. this sort of stuff makes my blood boil, it really does
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If she made this statement, Rose is stupid. When it comes to MONEY, Nothing should NOT be put pass a person. I would ask Rose "Why on EARTH would someone get a gun and go robbed someone even killing a person for over $300 and know it will get him/her LIfe in prison? People KILL for a couple of bucks let alone LYING to hope to get MILLIONS. "Why would someone KILL a love one to get MONEY from an insurance policy? I bet she would not have an answer because she is judging someone on what she will/will not do; well Ms Rose, everyone is NOT like YOU.
 
ChrisC said:
Just to clarify my battle/war comment. I understand Michael hasn't been wiped out, but this incident has significantly tarnished his legacy...perhaps beyond repair.

Michael's music is still largely off the airwaves where I live. The music TV channels won't dare touch him. The Finland exhibition is greeting people with a disclaimer and the sponsors won't go near. These are big problems. It might not be an issue in your territory, but it's happening in other places.

Time may go some way to fixing that, but we don't know.
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I will let you guys know of my experience. I was at a wedding this past weekend. It was in Canada in a white small town area. The guests were mostly white, some other races thrown into the mix. At this wedding I heard FOUR Michael Jackson songs (Billie Jean, Thriller, Don't Stop, and I Want You Back). The dance floor was PACKED for all of these songs, when Thriller came on the crowd actually cheered. I asked the DJ about the controversy and asked if it has affected MJ's music at weddings. His answer was: not at all! He said MJ gets played at about 80% of all weddings he does and people still request it. He hasn't had a single complaint so far. So no, Michael Jackson is certainly not cancelled at all!

When I got back from from the wedding my sister sent me a video of her in a big department store here, there were DOZENS of stuffed animal ghosts on the shelf that sing Thriller when you push a button on them. Everyone in the store was dancing to them, and smiling.

Finally, in the car driving home I heard TWO MJ songs on the radio.

Moral of the story..... while Leaving Neverland may have taken the wind out of the sails in some parts of the world, Michael Jackson remains a dominant force in music. The general public simply doesn't care. The media and the METOO crowd (a very vocal but small crowd) loves to make it seem way worse. But the reality is that most people still love listening to Michael Jackson and his music is still everywhere.
 
https://amp.www.complex.com/music/2019/09/akon-defends-michael-jackson-hot-97-interview


Akon on Michael Jackson Allegations: ‘If Michael Was a Creep, I’m Not Going to Sit Here and Defend Him’

Akon stopped by for an interview on Hot 97's Ebro in the Morning to discuss his future plans, entrepreneurship, and his relationship to some of his biggest collaborators. During the chat, he revealed that he hasn't spoken with Lady Gaga in a number of years, and that he has four new albums with a disparate flavor on the way. At the 12:30 moment of the interview onwards, he detailed his relationship with the late Michael Jackson.
He joked about hanging up on MJ upon getting on the phone with him for the first time and what it was like meeting face-to-face, but he also addressed how he personally felt following the release of HBO's Leaving Neverland documentary. "That's kind of hard to swallow because me knowing him and knowing a lot of the backstories of it... It's crazy how cruel corporations can be," he said at the 15:40 point of the interview when asked about the shift in MJ's public image over the last year.

"Mike was one of the most powerful men in the music business," he continued. From there he explained how he thinks Jackson was taken advantage of himself numerous times throughout his career, with a number of big players in the industry attempting to "push him out." When asked about the "flaw" of him being too close to a number of children, Akon replied, "But it weren't even a flaw, that was all humantiarian and just him having a love for kids period."

He said, "He had a theme park in his backyard that's for children, but it was more so for himself because he never had a childhood himself." Throughout his childhood, MJ was pressured by both the industry and his father Joe Jackson, who was also his manager, to be the biggest pop star in the world. "I don't know if it was abusive," Akon said when the topic of MJ facing so much scrutinity as a child star is brought up. "It was preparation for who he was supposed to become."

As for whether he believes the allegations against MJ, Akon responded at 18:28, "I'm a realist, if Mike was a creep or he was a pedophile or something like that... I'm not gonna sit here and defend him. I must tell you straight up, 'Yo bruh that dude right there, I can't rock with him.'" He continued, "It's no different from R. Kelly. I know R. Kelly but when I found that's what it was, I would tell him to his face, 'Bro, you ****ed up for that shit.'"

He did defend MJ, however, believing that too many people knew him "genuinely" for no one to have seen signs he might have been abusive towards children. "On Mike's behalf, these are people that was paid off, one or two people and they parents come back and recount like, you can't even prove none of that stuff and half that stuff you can prove that they was paid off to even say those things," he said.

You can watch the entire interview above, where he dives into stories with Eminem, Quincy Jones, and more.
 
travis3000 said:
I will let you guys know of my experience. I was at a wedding this past weekend. It was in Canada in a white small town area. The guests were mostly white, some other races thrown into the mix. At this wedding I heard FOUR Michael Jackson songs (Billie Jean, Thriller, Don't Stop, and I Want You Back). The dance floor was PACKED for all of these songs, when Thriller came on the crowd actually cheered. I asked the DJ about the controversy and asked if it has affected MJ's music at weddings. His answer was: not at all! He said MJ gets played at about 80% of all weddings he does and people still request it. He hasn't had a single complaint so far. So no, Michael Jackson is certainly not cancelled at all!

When I got back from from the wedding my sister sent me a video of her in a big department store here, there were DOZENS of stuffed animal ghosts on the shelf that sing Thriller when you push a button on them. Everyone in the store was dancing to them, and smiling.

Finally, in the car driving home I heard TWO MJ songs on the radio.

Moral of the story..... while Leaving Neverland may have taken the wind out of the sails in some parts of the world, Michael Jackson remains a dominant force in music. The general public simply doesn't care. The media and the METOO crowd (a very vocal but small crowd) loves to make it seem way worse. But the reality is that most people still love listening to Michael Jackson and his music is still everywhere.
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this is what I am talking about. We can not let a few hollowing wolves make u think everyone is against MJ. Like I said, the MJ tribute is here this week and it is selling well (looking to be sold out by Saturday. and there is RADIO CONTEST and it is hard to get through. A woman just won tonight and she is taking her husband and they are excited as she said).
 
terrell said:
If she made this statement, Rose is stupid. When it comes to MONEY, Nothing should NOT be put pass a person. I would ask Rose "Why on EARTH would someone get a gun and go robbed someone even killing a person for over $300 and know it will get him/her LIfe in prison? People KILL for a couple of bucks let alone LYING to hope to get MILLIONS. "Why would someone KILL a love one to get MONEY from an insurance policy? I bet she would not have an answer because she is judging someone on what she will/will not do; well Ms Rose, everyone is NOT like YOU.
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Exactly, she is either in denial as to how the real world works, or she just jumping on the MJ hate wagon
 
MJPoetryFan;4268966 said:
https://amp.www.complex.com/music/2019/09/akon-defends-michael-jackson-hot-97-interview


Akon on Michael Jackson Allegations: &#8216;If Michael Was a Creep, I&#8217;m Not Going to Sit Here and Defend Him&#8217;

Akon stopped by for an interview on Hot 97's Ebro in the Morning to discuss his future plans, entrepreneurship, and his relationship to some of his biggest collaborators. During the chat, he revealed that he hasn't spoken with Lady Gaga in a number of years, and that he has four new albums with a disparate flavor on the way. At the 12:30 moment of the interview onwards, he detailed his relationship with the late Michael Jackson.
He joked about hanging up on MJ upon getting on the phone with him for the first time and what it was like meeting face-to-face, but he also addressed how he personally felt following the release of HBO's Leaving Neverland documentary. "That's kind of hard to swallow because me knowing him and knowing a lot of the backstories of it... It's crazy how cruel corporations can be," he said at the 15:40 point of the interview when asked about the shift in MJ's public image over the last year.

"Mike was one of the most powerful men in the music business," he continued. From there he explained how he thinks Jackson was taken advantage of himself numerous times throughout his career, with a number of big players in the industry attempting to "push him out." When asked about the "flaw" of him being too close to a number of children, Akon replied, "But it weren't even a flaw, that was all humantiarian and just him having a love for kids period."

He said, "He had a theme park in his backyard that's for children, but it was more so for himself because he never had a childhood himself." Throughout his childhood, MJ was pressured by both the industry and his father Joe Jackson, who was also his manager, to be the biggest pop star in the world. "I don't know if it was abusive," Akon said when the topic of MJ facing so much scrutinity as a child star is brought up. "It was preparation for who he was supposed to become."

As for whether he believes the allegations against MJ, Akon responded at 18:28, "I'm a realist, if Mike was a creep or he was a pedophile or something like that... I'm not gonna sit here and defend him. I must tell you straight up, 'Yo bruh that dude right there, I can't rock with him.'" He continued, "It's no different from R. Kelly. I know R. Kelly but when I found that's what it was, I would tell him to his face, 'Bro, you ****ed up for that shit.'"

He did defend MJ, however, believing that too many people knew him "genuinely" for no one to have seen signs he might have been abusive towards children. "On Mike's behalf, these are people that was paid off, one or two people and they parents come back and recount like, you can't even prove none of that stuff and half that stuff you can prove that they was paid off to even say those things," he said.

You can watch the entire interview above, where he dives into stories with Eminem, Quincy Jones, and more.
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Please tell me I'm reading this right and he's now saying he doesn't really believe that MJ is guilty?
 
Alh21 said:
Please tell me I'm reading this right and he's now saying he doesn't really believe that MJ is guilty?
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Watch the video. Akon is brilliant. He always defended MJ and always speak well about him and their time together. Article title is missleading as usual. Stupid media and their clickbait tactics.
 
PoP;4268929 said:
You can feel sorry for her, but I refuse to, it's either her own hatred or her mind is being poisoned.
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Alh21;4268930 said:
I'm going to have to go and read what's going on with this rose woman, just so I'm in the loop. Read the first few lines and yes she's an idiot

&#8220;Why on Earth would anybody want to come out and expose themselves to so much hate if they weren&#8217;t trying to regain some control in their own life? Control that has been robbed and stolen?&#8221; she said, wtf is this statement about, does she actually know how much these two idiots are trying to sue the estate for, if I stood to gain that amount of money by making up a pack of lies then yes I would take the abuse, its just thankful that I don't lie and certainly wouldn't make up crap like that. this sort of stuff makes my blood boil, it really does
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So u guys think shes lying?
 
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8701girl said:
So u guys think shes lying?
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I believe Weinstein did something to her; however, Rose should NOT let her experience think it is a reflection on MJ's accusers. MJ accusers are clear liars and there are too many things to prove it even from court.
 
Leaving Neverland (Original Motion Picture Soundtrack) by Chad Hobson





This is really sick! A soundtrack for a documentary about two men who claim to have been molested. They are making money off of this!

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Leaving Neverland (Original Motion Picture Soundtrack)

Original Score by Chad Hobson

https://music.apple.com/us/album/leaving-neverland-original-motion-picture-soundtrack/1461908352

https://www.amazon.com/Leaving-Neve...land+Soundtrack&qid=1568301764&s=music&sr=8-1

TRACKS

1 Our Childhood 2:12

2 Magical Valley 1:51

3 Meeting Michael 2:07

4 At Bedtime 1:50

5 Room at the Hilton 2:55

6 Arrival at Havenhurst 1:49

7 Michael's Escape 1:50

8 Walking at Night 1:51

9 Trip to Hawaii 1:41

10 Magical Moment 1:45

11 Enchantment 1:48

12 Touch of His Hand 2:14

13 Every Room 3:00

14 The Invitation 2:45

15 Sun Rise 3:20

16 Far Far Away 4:05

17 Leaving Neverland 3:15

18 Meeting Indiana Jones 2:12

19 The Next Chapter 4:43

Released: Apr 1, 2019 ? 2019 Redrocca


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blyt
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this contains graphic pedophilia being described innpornographic detail.
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pedophilia graphic, i want to speak to my senator, there should be laws against graphic pedophilia being sold on amazon, this content contains graphic acts of pedophilia being described in detail it should at least be rated xxx like any other pornographic material, i have teens who use my account i dont appreciate this trash being avwilwble to them.

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Manipulatively emotional to help pursuade people to believe words that aren't supported by evidence and are impossible in reality. Should not be available for streaming.
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1.0 out of 5 starsPro pedophilia film. Sick!
May 4, 2019
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Anyone who buys this should be investigated! This is sick. Making money off of lies and slander not to mention CSA! Those titles are disgusting.

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Whether or not you believe the allegations, you should not capitalize on child abuse.

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This is just sick.

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Alh21 said:
Please tell me I'm reading this right and he's now saying he doesn't really believe that MJ is guilty?
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I don't recall Akon ever saying he thought Michael was guilty. He's been a great friend.
 
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