Controversial MJ Documentary Leaving Neverland [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

ozemouze said:

Money and ratings are not enough explanation at this point anymore IMO. Especially if you try to see it from a journalist's point of view: exposing LN for example as the hoax of the decade would be at least as (if not more) sensational as the tired "MJ is a freak" narrative - why not do it then? I'm convinced there's more to this and MJ is used as a "universal smokescreen".

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It is that as well.

Thank you to @Annie_Is_Not_OK for making this. And the MJFam while we hold Michael's and @tajjackson3's hand on this journey for truth, justice and vindication. #UnlessYoureMichaelJackson

So, LN has just won the 'Best Documentary Series Award' in the '2019 Content Innovation Awards'.

Exactly what was innovative about the content - except it was lies masquerading as a doc?

Best Documentary Series
Tile Films for Sacred Sites: Egyptian Priestesses produced for Smithsonian Networks

Our Time Projects and SHOWTIME. Distributed by CBS Studios International for The Trade

Jigsaw Productions for SHOWTIME Distributed by CBS Studios International for Enemies: The President, Justice & The FBI

Kew Media Distribution for Leaving Neverland

NTV for Conquering the Arctic: Missions Impossible

https://twitter.com/kewmediagroup/status/1183499611991920643

myosotis said:

So, LN has just won the 'Best Documentary Series Award' in the '2019 Content Innovation Awards'.

Exactly what was innovative about the content - except it was lies masquerading as a doc?

Best Documentary Series
Tile Films for Sacred Sites: Egyptian Priestesses produced for Smithsonian Networks

Our Time Projects and SHOWTIME. Distributed by CBS Studios International for The Trade

Jigsaw Productions for SHOWTIME Distributed by CBS Studios International for Enemies: The President, Justice & The FBI

Kew Media Distribution for Leaving Neverland

NTV for Conquering the Arctic: Missions Impossible

https://twitter.com/kewmediagroup/status/1183499611991920643

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It's just SO ridiculous. There MUST be better documentaries than this!
Ones that are far more deserving of this kind of award.
And also, how is it a SERIES????

Mikky Dee;4271648 said:

And also, how is it a SERIES????

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It was broadcast in two parts, so it’s a series of two. Mathematically correct. :lmao:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&#128071;&#127998;When a poem you wrote &amp; were debating releasing ends up being used to spotlight the huge ignorance, injustice, and hypocrisy Michael Jackson faced and is still facing even after death. <br>Thank you for fighting with me, MJfam. You guys are the best.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/proud?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#proud</a><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/FactsDontLiePeopleDo?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#FactsDontLiePeopleDo</a> <a href="https://t.co/AW2Gvtpzll">pic.twitter.com/AW2Gvtpzll</a></p>&mdash; Taj Jackson (@tajjackson3) <a href="https://twitter.com/tajjackson3/status/1182740245306986496?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">11. Oktober 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Michael Jackson's <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Thriller?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Thriller</a>, leads the LyricFind Global Chart &amp; other songs that are getting seasonal boo-sts. <a href="https://t.co/X9FYj4tLlD">https://t.co/X9FYj4tLlD</a></p>&mdash; billboard (@billboard) <a href="https://twitter.com/billboard/status/1182783953029292032?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">11. Oktober 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="und" dir="ltr">&#128591;&#127997; <a href="https://t.co/iyb5vcVd94">https://t.co/iyb5vcVd94</a></p>&mdash; Taj Jackson (@tajjackson3) <a href="https://twitter.com/tajjackson3/status/1181960237844054016?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">9. Oktober 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="und" dir="ltr">&#128079;&#127998; <a href="https://t.co/xlumZ81fYY">https://t.co/xlumZ81fYY</a></p>&mdash; Taj Jackson (@tajjackson3) <a href="https://twitter.com/tajjackson3/status/1181416921654185985?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">8. Oktober 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Review: Michael Jackson Documentary 'Square On' Proves He's Innocent!! <a href="https://t.co/55YqLv0hiP">https://t.co/55YqLv0hiP</a></p>&mdash; MEDIATAKEOUT (@MediaTakeoutTV) <a href="https://twitter.com/MediaTakeoutTV/status/1181260399007678464?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">7. Oktober 2019</a></blockquote>
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Re: Isn't It Ironic?

Big Apple NYC said:

Who knows for sure, BUT:

In my opinion, NOTHING gets the green light, regarding any of Oprah's entities, without her approval first. To me, she seems very hand's on.

Oh, and that dang O Magazine is her baby. I mean, she's on EVERY cover since the inception of that magazine. EVERY COVER!!!

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She really is unbelievable, if it her that's behind this does she think people are just going to forgive her, I for one won't be, she's up there with the rest of the low life snakes. I don't know how she dare show her face in public tbh. Does anyone know when them two idiots will get their appeal heard again, I seem to remember it being in October but I'm not sure of the date

Elton-Cetera said:

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How very true this is

Why is Danny Wus ultimate rebuttal video part 2 now private on youtube? Anyone knows what that means and why it happens?

"Video unavailable, this video is private"

"The Ultimate Rebuttle against EVERY Michael Jackson Allegation" from "Danny Wu (Part2)"


Does it mean Danny Wu has not removed the video, but changed the settings for it, so it can only be viewed by him and not the public at the moment?

Lightbringer said:

Why is Danny Wus ultimate rebuttal video part 2 now private on youtube? Anyone knows what that means and why it happens?

"Video unavailable, this video is private"

"The Ultimate Rebuttle against EVERY Michael Jackson Allegation" from "Danny Wu (Part2)"

Does it mean Danny Wu has not removed the video, but changed the settings for it, so it can only be viewed by him and not the public at the moment?

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Why not just ask him on twitter.

Lightbringer said:

Why is Danny Wus ultimate rebuttal video part 2 now private on youtube? Anyone knows what that means and why it happens?

Does it mean Danny Wu has not removed the video, but changed the settings for it, so it can only be viewed by him and not the public at the moment?

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Yes, it's not removed. YouTubers sometimes make a video private while trying to resolve copyright claims or other issues. But he might have just made it private so people will watch Square One instead of that video.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I miss this man. I miss my uncle. I was truly blessed to be his nephew. <a href="https://t.co/eI82inVZ2x">https://t.co/eI82inVZ2x</a></p>&mdash; Taj Jackson (@tajjackson3) <a href="https://twitter.com/tajjackson3/status/1183791723295604739?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">14. Oktober 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">You can tell a story in many different ways. This version was told by a bodyguard who supposedly worked next to MJ in those days when he was in rehab. Some elements of the story are similar to Elton's but much more sympathetic to MJ's condition. <a href="https://t.co/T7dSwkQ0x8">pic.twitter.com/T7dSwkQ0x8</a></p>&mdash; Justice for The Falsely Accused (@JuliaBerkowitz1) <a href="https://twitter.com/JuliaBerkowitz1/status/1184318405555507201?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">16. Oktober 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Wade Robson Appeal Update:<br><br>In light of Bill 218 &amp; Wade's side arguing that this helps their case, the court has now POSTPONED (yet again) oral arguments until NOVEMBER 18TH, 2019.<br><br>Both sides today submitted letters relating to this bill, with Wade's side naturally favoring it.</p>&mdash; TSCM (@MJJRepository) <a href="https://twitter.com/MJJRepository/status/1184272740171288576?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">16. Oktober 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Spoiler Alert: Gloria Allred is NOT a feminist crusader and does NOT have her client’s best interests, or the truth, at heart. She is motivated only by money and attention, and should not be taken seriously. <a href="https://t.co/0qXjdMzSDb">https://t.co/0qXjdMzSDb</a></p>&mdash; John Ziegler (@Zigmanfreud) <a href="https://twitter.com/Zigmanfreud/status/1184629309522137088?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">17. Oktober 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/dannywuyue?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@dannywuyue</a> fixed it!! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SquareOne?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SquareOne</a> <a href="https://t.co/rB4hfqsnZI">pic.twitter.com/rB4hfqsnZI</a></p>&mdash; MJJJusticeProject (@MJJJusticePrjct) <a href="https://twitter.com/MJJJusticePrjct/status/1184603897328889858?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">16. Oktober 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Michael Jackson is… far from canceled (ask any subway musician or Uber driver) <a href="https://t.co/JXXgjT7lCT">https://t.co/JXXgjT7lCT</a></p>&mdash; Joe Coscarelli (@joecoscarelli) <a href="https://twitter.com/joecoscarelli/status/1182315645259661315?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">10. Oktober 2019</a></blockquote>
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Paris78;4272033 said:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Spoiler Alert: Gloria Allred is NOT a feminist crusader and does NOT have her client’s best interests, or the truth, at heart. She is motivated only by money and attention, and should not be taken seriously. <a href="https://t.co/0qXjdMzSDb">https://t.co/0qXjdMzSDb</a></p>— John Ziegler (@Zigmanfreud) <a href="https://twitter.com/Zigmanfreud/status/1184629309522137088?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">17. Oktober 2019</a></blockquote>
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I agree with him, but to me Allretch is a sexist witch.

https://www.billboard.com/articles/...streaming-numbers-since-hbo-leaving-neverland, just read this article about how MJs music actually went up after LN crap

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/princemjjjaxon?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@princemjjjaxon</a> &quot; My father was greatest entertainer of all time&quot; <a href="https://t.co/rAqrOHjGBe">pic.twitter.com/rAqrOHjGBe</a></p>&mdash; Esma Elhan (@JerrEsma) <a href="https://twitter.com/JerrEsma/status/1185273053208612865?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">18. Oktober 2019</a></blockquote>
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The number of on-demand listens garnered by Michael Jackson&#8217;s catalog on streaming services such as Spotify and Apple Music increased by 22.1% since March, slightly outpacing the 21.8% growth experienced by the streaming industry as a whole.

This will go up especially after Halloween as &#8220;Thriller&#8221; will be played all over the world for the famous scary holidays!

Beat it, Dan Reed!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&quot;I'm standing though your kicking me.&quot;<br>Michael Jackson, 2Bad, HIStory: Past, Present and Future, Book 1, 1995 <a href="https://t.co/nMXZnD4KyD">https://t.co/nMXZnD4KyD</a></p>&mdash; James Gill (@JamesGill13) <a href="https://twitter.com/JamesGill13/status/1185481346342367232?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">19. Oktober 2019</a></blockquote>
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NatureCriminal7896;4272497 said:

&#8220;For seven months HBO has tried and failed to avoid a public arbitration".

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In my opinion, HBO is more afraid of PUBLIC ARBITRATION, then they are in losing One Hundred Million Dollars.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Re MJ Estate v HBO. HBO has, unsurprisingly, chosen to appeal the judge's ruling on arbitration. <a href="https://t.co/sWgoEPhluP">https://t.co/sWgoEPhluP</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/Hammertonhal?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Hammertonhal</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/TruthAndLaw8?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TruthAndLaw8</a> <a href="https://t.co/vAr2wI5BtO">pic.twitter.com/vAr2wI5BtO</a></p>&mdash; andjustice4some (@andjustice4some) <a href="https://twitter.com/andjustice4some/status/1186366577232375808?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">21. Oktober 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">HBO needs to be held accountable for all the lies in Leaving Neverland. We tried to warn them ahead of time. They just didn’t care. Stop trying to hide the truth from the public <a href="https://twitter.com/HBO?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@HBO</a><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/FactsDontLiePeopleDo?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#FactsDontLiePeopleDo</a> <a href="https://t.co/J5pYstY1Sh">https://t.co/J5pYstY1Sh</a></p>&mdash; Taj Jackson (@tajjackson3) <a href="https://twitter.com/tajjackson3/status/1186403228071546880?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">21. Oktober 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Would you finally get it right? It's the Estate who wants PUBLIC arbitration HBO is absolutely against that because they have a lot to hide. <br>If they knew the so called documentary is truthful they would be happy to show the evidence publicly</p>&mdash; Believe the victims of false accusers (@Hammertonhal) <a href="https://twitter.com/Hammertonhal/status/1186416982666563584?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">21. Oktober 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/michaeljackson?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@michaeljackson</a> total streaming, CDs, downloads this year so far 661K, way up from last year and 163K just since August 1st. My original story July '19: <a href="https://t.co/ryiCb3Mwrl">https://t.co/ryiCb3Mwrl</a></p>&mdash; Showbiz 411 (@showbiz411) <a href="https://twitter.com/showbiz411/status/1186436196119072768?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">22. Oktober 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Thriller is currently #82 on the US Itunes chart, selling around 243 copies today.</p>&mdash; caramella (@Caramelicedtea) <a href="https://twitter.com/Caramelicedtea/status/1186417543059300372?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">21. Oktober 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">RT Promotion of SquareOne the movie ongoing ..YASS <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MondayMorning?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MondayMorning</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/joejitsukawa?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@joejitsukawa</a> <a href="https://t.co/dqx5O20uUz">https://t.co/dqx5O20uUz</a> <a href="https://t.co/Q04jrP0K50">https://t.co/Q04jrP0K50</a></p>&mdash; MJJJusticeProject (@MJJJusticePrjct) <a href="https://twitter.com/MJJJusticePrjct/status/1186426438087409664?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">21. Oktober 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">John Branca's statement on HBO's request for appeal, calling Leaving Neverland &quot;junk programming which has now become the Lies of Leaving Neverland.&quot; <a href="https://t.co/aj5i1ZIpu3">https://t.co/aj5i1ZIpu3</a> <a href="https://t.co/vYy1gXwiZ2">pic.twitter.com/vYy1gXwiZ2</a></p>&mdash; andjustice4some (@andjustice4some) <a href="https://twitter.com/andjustice4some/status/1186397265323147264?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">21. Oktober 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Radio stations were concerned about a backlash but the actual consumers couldn’t care less <a href="https://t.co/nJmFVq5nzM">https://t.co/nJmFVq5nzM</a></p>&mdash; Mike Smallcombe (@mikesmallcombe1) <a href="https://twitter.com/mikesmallcombe1/status/1186351386193285125?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">21. Oktober 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="de"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Feelin' halloweeny &#128123;&#127875;.<br><br>Am I scary for you?<br>I'm tired of being abused<br>You know you're scaring me too<br>I see the evil is you<br>Is it scary for you, baby? <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MichaelJackson?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MichaelJackson</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WearYourMJs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WearYourMJs</a> <a href="https://t.co/ByrjE8dt7S">pic.twitter.com/ByrjE8dt7S</a></p>&mdash; kapowski (@santikapowski) <a href="https://twitter.com/santikapowski/status/1186678246928203776?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">22. Oktober 2019</a></blockquote>
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Another possible award...

The most in-demand documentaries in the world: Congratulations from Parrot Analytics
2019 OCTOBER 15

At an event held this week during the MIPCOM global TV conference, leading TV data analytics company Parrot Analytics gave attendees a sneak peek of the most in-demand shows of 2019 so far.

Parrot Analytics will host the Global TV Demand Awards for the second year at NATPE Miami on January 21, 2020, honoring the world&#8217;s most popular shows in several categories for 2019.

Most In-Demand Documentary Series in the World is one of the 12 award categories.
Parrot Analytics wishes to extend its congratulations to all the producers, writers and talent of the following documentaries, listed in A-Z order:
Anthony Bourdain: Parts Unknown
Blue Planet
Cosmos: A Spacetime Odyssey
Dynasties
Leaving Neverland
Nova
Our Planet
Planet Earth
Surviving R. Kelly
Wild Wild Country

Watch the Race!
The winner will be revealed at the Global TV Demand Awards in January.
Watch the 2019 global demand race for the top documentaries to see how these documentaries have fared thus far in 2019,

https://www.documentarytelevision.c...-world-congratulations-from-parrot-analytics/

myosotis;4272508 said:

Another possible award...

The most in-demand documentaries in the world: Congratulations from Parrot Analytics
2019 OCTOBER 15

At an event held this week during the MIPCOM global TV conference, leading TV data analytics company Parrot Analytics gave attendees a sneak peek of the most in-demand shows of 2019 so far.

Parrot Analytics will host the Global TV Demand Awards for the second year at NATPE Miami on January 21, 2020, honoring the world’s most popular shows in several categories for 2019.

Most In-Demand Documentary Series in the World is one of the 12 award categories.
Parrot Analytics wishes to extend its congratulations to all the producers, writers and talent of the following documentaries, listed in A-Z order:
Anthony Bourdain: Parts Unknown
Blue Planet
Cosmos: A Spacetime Odyssey
Dynasties
Leaving Neverland
Nova
Our Planet
Planet Earth
Surviving R. Kelly
Wild Wild Country

Watch the Race!
The winner will be revealed at the Global TV Demand Awards in January.
Watch the 2019 global demand race for the top documentaries to see how these documentaries have fared thus far in 2019,

https://www.documentarytelevision.c...-world-congratulations-from-parrot-analytics/

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RKelly doc out did EVERY documentary but these fools want to award/nominate that lying LN all because they want to destroy MJ. WONT WORK. And when all of this is over and these conartists are even more expose, those who gave this lying doc an award are going to look dumb and expose them as well.

Not that it really matters, BUT I have never even heard of the "Global TV Demand Awards."

Anywho, Dan Reed doesn't what some no named award. Dan Reed wanted to win ALL of the Best Director Awards, so just like Leonardo DiCaprio in Titanic, Reed could stand at the front of the ship, while screaming: "I'm The King Of The World!!!"

I don't know who wants to be an International Superstar more: Reed or Robson!

myosotis;4272508 said:

Another possible award...

The most in-demand documentaries in the world: Congratulations from Parrot Analytics
2019 OCTOBER 15

At an event held this week during the MIPCOM global TV conference, leading TV data analytics company Parrot Analytics gave attendees a sneak peek of the most in-demand shows of 2019 so far.

Parrot Analytics will host the Global TV Demand Awards for the second year at NATPE Miami on January 21, 2020, honoring the world&#8217;s most popular shows in several categories for 2019.

Most In-Demand Documentary Series in the World is one of the 12 award categories.
Parrot Analytics wishes to extend its congratulations to all the producers, writers and talent of the following documentaries, listed in A-Z order:
Anthony Bourdain: Parts Unknown
Blue Planet
Cosmos: A Spacetime Odyssey
Dynasties
Leaving Neverland
Nova
Our Planet
Planet Earth
Surviving R. Kelly
Wild Wild Country

Watch the Race!
The winner will be revealed at the Global TV Demand Awards in January.
Watch the 2019 global demand race for the top documentaries to see how these documentaries have fared thus far in 2019,

https://www.documentarytelevision.c...-world-congratulations-from-parrot-analytics/

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Absolutely ridiculous and blasphemous to put Planet Earth, Our Planet or Cosmos beside this garbage. I honestly can't believe even haters can take this seriously.

Apart from being wrong for advertising lying about MJ, they should also apologise to David Attenborough now!

Big Apple NYC;4272511 said:

Not that it really matters, BUT I have never even heard of the "Global TV Demand Awards."

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Ah, okay, so this is just a no name thingy, right?

Hahahaha! good job estate! they too sacred because they know they gonna loose. HBO and the 3 lairs need to hang it up already. they keeping this crap up just to get more money. yeah! go ahead and do it! i can wait to see these buttholes put in jail or etc. bring it on!

Anything tied to oprah will get awards. Sad, Fake, but true. Doesnt matter in the end. The fans/most of the public that does research understands the truth. This film is a fraud. Why hasnt this much attention been on Harvey Weinstein? Wheres the big doc on him and his crimes?

Regardless of how I feel about the estate I support them in the courts. Wade cannot/should not win at all. Hope they expose the con artist he really is.

Fans worrying about how estate won't release unrelease songs etc while they doing best to save Michael legacy. while i do care about unrelease stuff we all need to accept fact Michael is gone. there will never be any new etc yes the stuff in vault but that's it. so what we gonna do once they give us all that stuff? lol.

anyway i might not like how estate do their business with somethings that have to do with MJ but this right here is historic moment and i praise them for their time and effort to save Michael legacy.