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Some people think Michael knew he was gonna die. i'm one those people. from things he said in the past he knew was gonna go. from the leave me alone video to the evil people on this earth. he knew. that's what's also make this whole scary as heck. then the fact Michael was smart guy.
 
Alh21 said:
there was another one in the news about the oxygen chamber they claimed he slept in years ago, don't know what is was about cause I didn't click on it, more BS no doubt,
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That's story was from the 80's. very old news but now i'm kind of curious now. i'm not gonna listen to the media but it does make you think the fact he didn't wanna aged. i'm not dishosnesting mike or anything. just kind of curious now.
 
Besides all the other health problems MJ had a long time depression and took anti depressiva what (paralyzis your facial expression and impair your pronunsiation in parts like we saw it in the early 2000s), hinders your selfcontrole and let you do things that you don't really want, are not good for you or apear suicidal (like to take to much medicine)!
But it is compleatly normal that humans do repeateatly risk or very risk things!
Thats not special on Michael Jackson!
In the end it was his life (what nobody owned besides him) with what he could do what he want, in which he took care of himselfe in them best way he could do with all the problems he had to mange and accomplished it 50 long years until he met Conrad Murray!
Without that and the total greedy sharks from AEG arround him he would have definitly live longer!

Like I said: Put yourself in his shoes and try to strongly rethink if you could have done it all better then him!

For an total healthy human with an easy life is 50 years a short life!
But we could have lost Michael Jackson already in the 90ies!
But he was veeeeeeeery strong and never gave up at anytime (performed for his fans and family and to make this world again a better place) til his last breath!
I think he knew that this world needed him more then anyone and that he could not leave it!

"This is very important!....We have only four years to make it right"! MJ in 2009
Now time did run out without Michael Jackson!
 
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Michael suffer with depression also and i think anxiety too. but i could of sworn he stop taking those pills because he didn't need them anymore. i think only thing he was taking was the meds for his pain for his head.
 
Michael went though alot in his life. that's why i wouldn't be surprise if he have something going on with him mentally. and i'm not saying that to sound rude or like it's an bad thing.
 
mj_frenzy;4261733 said:
MJ never wanted to do 50 shows.

He revealed that to some of his fans backstage during the ‘This Is It’ rehearsals.

In fact, he did not want to perform at all because he felt that he would embarrass himself on stage in front of his fans.
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A lot of people don't want to go to work but they do so they can continue to live their lives! The point is he was booked for the shows and the question is why if he didn't want to live?
 
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I see no reason at all to think MJ would not want to live...

He had 3 children who he loved more than anything - that's enough reason for any parent to keep living.

He wanted to rest and sleep - very desperatly - but no way do I believe he wanted to die leaving behind 3 young children.
 
NatureCriminal7896;4261741 said:
Some people think Michael knew he was gonna die. i'm one those people. from things he said in the past he knew was gonna go. from the leave me alone video to the evil people on this earth. he knew. that's what's also make this whole scary as heck. then the fact Michael was smart guy.
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That’s not true. Michael did NOT know that Conrad Murray was going to MURDER him. Do you actually think that Michael would have hired a HEART doctor to administer medication to help his insomnia If he knew or wanted to die, Let me say it again, Michael hired a HEART doctor because he wanted the best for himself. He trusted and thought this heart doctor knew what he was doing. However, this piece of $#@&, Conrad Murray, was negligent and ALLOWED Michael to die. SMH at some of your rationalizations and your conveniently or carelessly forgetting that Michael was MURDERED by his doctor. Michael did not overdose on pills. The autopsy report stated that there were no meds in his body, except what the MURDERER pumped into him. DO YOUR RESEARCH and stop falling for the propaganda!!
 
NatureCriminal7896;4261755 said:
Michael went though alot in his life. that's why i wouldn't be surprise if he have something going on with him mentally. and i'm not saying that to sound rude or like it's an bad thing.
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With all Michael went through, he was 10 times stronger mentally than most of you or me who have not had to endure even a fraction of what he did. I really get sick of people implying that there was something mentally wrong with Michael, just because some of you wouldn’t be able to handle what he went through. That man endured more than any human being should have endured, and yet he never turned to hard drugs or freaked out or tried to kill himself. Michael was stronger MENTALLY
than all of us put together. Name me a celebrity anywhere who went through what this man endured and still continued to create, work, remain humble and strong, not resort to heroin, fentanyl, cocaine or any other hard drugs as others have done, with nothing close to that Michael endured. If Conrad Murray had not murdered him, he would still be alive. I have no doubt about that.
 
I totally agree with you, Michael must have had the worst life regarding media crap and still managed to hold his head up high, Murray took someone very special away from us and no one is ever going to be able to replace him, I can't think of any other celebrities that have gone through half of what Michael did
 
Michael was a human being. we all have days when we are stress out etc. Michael never did drugs. but it could be a chance he did. i know he did drink wine. none of us was in his house. but i believe he was was murder.
 
Murray should of got more jail time. he murdered the most sweetest innocent man on the planet. i mean if someone kill someone they should be jail longer then that. but i guess since Michael was black\african-american it's like who cares. like Michael said injustice. it really sad. i really hope he's in a much happier place now.
 
Just because i think Michael knew he was gonna die doesn't have nothing to do with drugs or anything. i just believe he knew he was gonna go someway. and this long before 2009 etc.
 
I'm not sure it had anything to do with the colour of his skin, the police said in the interview as I remember that the did not want to go with a murder charge and run the risk of loosing the case, or at least I think that's what they said, if I am wrong then I apologise, Im thinking one of the problems was that there was no witnesses and only Murrays word as to what happened, he even tried to say that Michael must have self injected himself while Murray was out of the room, or so I read. I was disgusted that he didn't go down for murder but from what we know of Michael would he have wanted that.
 
NatureCriminal7896;4261790 said:
Just because i think Michael knew he was gonna die doesn't have nothing to do with drugs or anything. i just believe he knew he was gonna go someway. and this long before 2009 etc.
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ALL of us are going to die someday and somehow. This reality is not exclusive to Michael. You are correct it does NOT have to do with drugs or anything else, Again, we ALL know that we are going to die somday, we just don’t know when or how. I think some people forget that FACT. Bottomline is that Michael wanted to LIVE. He had no idea that a so-called doctor, a cardiac specialist, would be negligent and not know what he was doing, and MURDER him.
 
Alh21;4261791 said:
I'm not sure it had anything to do with the colour of his skin, the police said in the interview as I remember that the did not want to go with a murder charge and run the risk of loosing the case, or at least I think that's what they said, if I am wrong then I apologise, Im thinking one of the problems was that there was no witnesses and only Murrays word as to what happened, he even tried to say that Michael must have self injected himself while Murray was out of the room, or so I read. I was disgusted that he didn't go down for murder but from what we know of Michael would he have wanted that.
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You are correct in your analysis of this case. The DA wanted to charge Murray with murder and only went with manslaughter, because they didn’t think a jury would convict this scum of murder. Btw, yes Michael would have wanted Murray to be charged with murder.
 
I am glad u said yes Michael would have wanted him to be charged with murder, the reason being that it means we don't have to forgive him for what he has done, I take comfort in knowing I am free to dispise Murray without feeling guilty or going against everything Michael stood for, I hope this makes sense, it doesn't sound right now it's written down
 
Not that way. but everyone has their own opinions. i believe he was murdered and that he knew was gonna die. not in 2009. way before. we have to remember that not everyone liked Michael. some people wanted to see him dead others in jail etc. we live in an evil world folks.
 
Alh21;4261803 said:
I am glad u said yes Michael would have wanted him to be charged with murder, the reason being that it means we don't have to forgive him for what he has done, I take comfort in knowing I am free to dispise Murray without feeling guilty or going against everything Michael stood for, I hope this makes sense, it doesn't sound right now it's written down
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Forgive Murray for killing Michael? Never in a million years. That SOB, Murray, ever showed an ounce of remorse for murdering Michael. In fact, he tried to blame Michael for his own death, and ignorant people fell for that crap, ONLY because it was Michael. They would have never believed that about any other person
Don’t feel bad for despising or hating Conrad Murray. He deserves no forgiveness. He doesn’t even deserve to be among the living. His INTENTIONAL negligence killed Michael, and he didn’t give a damn. Does anyone really think Michael would have forgiven this monster for his negligence and taking Michael from the thing that mattered most-his children. Michael wanted to live and this murderer killed him.
You have the RIGHT to despise and hate Conrad Murray. Don’t feel bad for hating him. You can believe Michael would hold him responsible for what he did.I can’t believe anyone would forgive that reprehensible monster!!!

Btw, you make a lot of sense and I understand your sentiments.
 
somewhereinthedark;4261798 said:
You are correct in your analysis of this case. The DA wanted to charge Murray with murder and only went with manslaughter, because they didn’t think a jury would convict this scum of murder. Btw, yes Michael would have wanted Murray to be charged with murder.
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The only reason why they couldn't charge Murray with murder was because he made sure that MJ felt assleep without haveing anymore the chance to call (cause things for communication to the outside were suspipusly not there when MJ owned a personal Laptop with internet besides other computers and the first I Phone) or screaming for help and then leaving the room for a long time, and prooving every second of it in recording this suspious phoneconversations!

Only because he left the room in the right moment (where could have rescue MJs life when he would have stayed there (and could proove it) there was no charge for murder and he thought he could go compleatly away with it and live his life further!
Even when he came back to MJ he made sure that the ambulance was called late enough and that reanimation went wrong!
This was everything well prepared from some people!
 
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Thank you somewherehereinthedark for your replys, I will never forgive Murray for what he's has done, rotting in hell is to good for this man and I have no words for how I feel about him, it makes sense what u say about what Michael would want and I'm glad he would want the same as all his fans. I'm not sure but I sense that you are still struggling with what happened to him just as I am even though it's been 10 years, I only found this site last week and up till then I thought I was the only one who still felt grief for the loss of MJ, it's comforting to know that he is still so strong in people's hearts.
 
People don't always forgive because the person deserves forgiveness, they forgive for their own sake. Hatred, anger, and resentment are toxic and only hurt you, not the person you hold them for. They anchor you to the past and amplify the suffering in the present. You can choose to save space for that negativity to fester in your heart, or you can fill it with love, compassion, and kindness.

“To forgive is to set a prisoner free and discover that the prisoner was you.”
 
Yes I will agree that sometimes forgivness is the best way to move forward and maybe, just maybe if Murray had shown one ounce of remose for what he had done then it might be worth thinking about, but he hasn't he didn't care when he did it and he doesn't care now, to go on and make up lies saying that Michael could have self injected to get himself off the hook is not worthy of forgivness I'm afraid, he knew what he was doing was dangerous and took no procauctions to make sure Michael was safe, he lied to the police saying he just went to the bathroom but this was proven to be lies, sorry for the rant but me personally will never forgive Murray for what he's done
 
Stopped reading at "Invincible was average by his standards.."
 
Alh21 said:
Yes I will agree that sometimes forgivness is the best way to move forward and maybe, just maybe if Murray had shown one ounce of remose for what he had done then it might be worth thinking about, but he hasn't he didn't care when he did it and he doesn't care now, to go on and make up lies saying that Michael could have self injected to get himself off the hook is not worthy of forgivness I'm afraid, he knew what he was doing was dangerous and took no procauctions to make sure Michael was safe, he lied to the police saying he just went to the bathroom but this was proven to be lies, sorry for the rant but me personally will never forgive Murray for what he's done
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Like I said, it has nothing to do with whether they deserve it. It's about freeing yourself.
 
somewhereinthedark;4261768 said:
That’s not true. Michael did NOT know that Conrad Murray was going to MURDER him. Do you actually think that Michael would have hired a HEART doctor to administer medication to help his insomnia If he knew or wanted to die, Let me say it again, Michael hired a HEART doctor because he wanted the best for himself. He trusted and thought this heart doctor knew what he was doing. However, this piece of $#@&, Conrad Murray, was negligent and ALLOWED Michael to die. SMH at some of your rationalizations and your conveniently or carelessly forgetting that Michael was MURDERED by his doctor. Michael did not overdose on pills. The autopsy report stated that there were no meds in his body, except what the MURDERER pumped into him. DO YOUR RESEARCH and stop falling for the propaganda!!
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The autopsy report showed that his dead body contained at least seven different types of drugs (including also the powerful anti-anxiety Lorazepam drug).

Also, AEG Live employed Conrad Murray in order to become his full time personal doctor.

He was not employed by MJ who was in no position to make decisions at that time.

AEG Live was also paying the doctor’s big salary.

Also, you cannot say that Conrad Murray murdered him, because a murderer kills with premeditation.

Considering that AEG Live employed that doctor to monitor MJ who was going to perform for AEG Live bringing in that way to the company big profits with those shows, it does not make any sense why Conrad Murray (who was working for AEG Live) wanted to kill MJ.

Keep in mind also that MJ, during his final weeks, was swallowing pills without telling Conrad Murray & then he was begging the doctor to give him Propofol, another indicator of his desire to die.

WannaScream;4261756 said:
A lot of people don't want to go to work but they do so they can continue to live their lives! The point is he was booked for the shows and the question is why if he didn't want to live?
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MJ was not allowed to make his own decisions regarding his life & career at that time.

AEG Live was fully controlling him.

It all began when Randy Phillips (CEO of AEG Live) realized that MJ was in debt & he took advantage of that situation.

Randy Phillips seized the opportunity to control him financially, he first persuaded him to sign for 10 shows (which MJ did but unwillingly) & then Phillips increased the number to 50 shows unbeknownst to MJ.

So, taking into account these circumstances, the fact that MJ was booked for those shows does not necessarily mean that he wanted to live.
 
Maybe MJ didn´t want to be old but he had things he wanted to do.And of course he wanted to be there for his children
Do you remember this note, written by Michael
https://www.tmz.com/2010/12/23/mich...money-london-this-is-it-concert-arnold-klein/
He had plans for the future.
I think it was one of Michael´s body guards who recommended Murray when one of the children became ill and later it was Michael´s choice to have him for the concerts. AEG thought he was too expensive but MJ said something about it was all about his body and if he would be sick or injured then concerts had to be cancelled. IT was Michael who wanted Kenny Ortega, he wanted many things for the concert, for example he wanted a film from a waterfall in Africa, and it became more and more expensive. AEG paid for it then but it was meant that MJ should pay them for the expenses later.
It was in the contract that MJ should do a high quality show, it was MJ who wanted much more .
When this is it tour was over MJ wanted to make movies .
 
mj_frenzy;4262000 said:
The autopsy report showed that his dead body contained at least seven different types of drugs (including also the powerful anti-anxiety Lorazepam drug).

Also, AEG Live employed Conrad Murray in order to become his full time personal doctor.

He was not employed by MJ who was in no position to make decisions at that time.

AEG Live was also paying the doctor’s big salary.

Also, you cannot say that Conrad Murray murdered him, because a murderer kills with premeditation.

Considering that AEG Live employed that doctor to monitor MJ who was going to perform for AEG Live bringing in that way to the company big profits with those shows, it does not make any sense why Conrad Murray (who was working for AEG Live) wanted to kill MJ.

Keep in mind also that MJ, during his final weeks, was swallowing pills without telling Conrad Murray & then he was begging the doctor to give him Propofol, another indicator of his desire to die.



MJ was not allowed to make his own decisions regarding his life & career at that time.

AEG Live was fully controlling him.

It all began when Randy Phillips (CEO of AEG Live) realized that MJ was in debt & he took advantage of that situation.

Randy Phillips seized the opportunity to control him financially, he first persuaded him to sign for 10 shows (which MJ did but unwillingly) & then Phillips increased the number to 50 shows unbeknownst to MJ.

So, taking into account these circumstances, the fact that MJ was booked for those shows does not necessarily mean that he wanted to live.
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MJ agreed to do like 30 shows initially and he was fully aware that they could increase the amount if demand was high enough. Not wanting to do something and not knowing that you're gonna need to do are two different things. There was even talk of more shows beyond that. MJ certainly wanted to to those shows initially. I think it is when rehearsal started he realised maybe he had taken on too much.
 
I know that apparently Michael was taking stuff to try and help him sleep, I can't imagine what he must have being going through to do this, I get In a terrible state if I don't sleep for one night. I don't believe that Michael wanted to die I think he was in such an exhausted state that he would have done anything to get some escape from the pressure he was under. I'm sure if he really wanted to die he certainly wouldn't have done it in the home where he ran the risk of his children finding him. I think I read somewhere that the tour he was planning was supposed to be only 10 shows but it was then bumped up to 50 because of demand. My heart bleeds for him and the enormous pressure he must have been under.
 
mj_frenzy;4262000 said:
The autopsy report showed that his dead body contained at least seven different types of drugs (including also the powerful anti-anxiety Lorazepam drug).

Also, AEG Live employed Conrad Murray in order to become his full time personal doctor.

He was not employed by MJ who was in no position to make decisions at that time.

AEG Live was also paying the doctor’s big salary.

Also, you cannot say that Conrad Murray murdered him, because a murderer kills with premeditation.

Considering that AEG Live employed that doctor to monitor MJ who was going to perform for AEG Live bringing in that way to the company big profits with those shows, it does not make any sense why Conrad Murray (who was working for AEG Live) wanted to kill MJ.

Keep in mind also that MJ, during his final weeks, was swallowing pills without telling Conrad Murray & then he was begging the doctor to give him Propofol, another indicator of his desire to die.



MJ was not allowed to make his own decisions regarding his life & career at that time.

AEG Live was fully controlling him.

It all began when Randy Phillips (CEO of AEG Live) realized that MJ was in debt & he took advantage of that situation.

Randy Phillips seized the opportunity to control him financially, he first persuaded him to sign for 10 shows (which MJ did but unwillingly) & then Phillips increased the number to 50 shows unbeknownst to MJ.

So, taking into account these circumstances, the fact that MJ was booked for those shows does not necessarily mean that he wanted to live.
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Sounds as if you fell for the stuff AEG was spewing during the civil trial that Katherine filed. You also seem to have fell for the crap that the murderer spewed during the trial. Murray lied during the trial to make it seem that Michael killed himself. He claimed that Michael was taking drugs without his knowledge, yet the autopsy said the only drugs in Michael’s body was what the murderer pumped into him. Murray also claimed Michael begged him for propofal. I believe Murray was lying and so did the jury. This murderer. Ever showed any remorse for killing and lied and said MicHael woke up from a propafol induced sleep and injected himself with a lethal dose. A person would have to be a complete moron to believe that BS. The jury didn’t believe it and any sane person wouldn’t believe it either.

Michael had debt but, he was not broke. You can’t be broke and own HALF of Sony publishing. He may have been “cash poor”, but not broke. Who else do you know would be called poor and owning HALF of Sony publishing. They only said that about MICHAEL and some are naive or gullible enough to believe it.

It’s disgusting and disrespectful to say thst Michael wanted to die. In fact it is the most irrational thing that I have heard. Michael had plans to release a new album, do movies and other things. He had three children that he loved immensely and wanted to see grow up. The DA’s wanted to charge Murray with 2nd degree MURDER, because his negligence and the way he didn’t call 911 for an hour when Michael died is Murder. The coverup is PRE-MEDITATED. It doesn’t matter bow you try to spin it, Conrad Murray murdered Michael, whether it was 1st degree or 2nd degree. The DAs went for manslaughter, because they wanted a conviction and not a hung
Jury.
 
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