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Thriller or Ghosts
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Snow White luvs Peter Pan
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Why wouldn't Ghosts rightfully be winning?
Michael was able to top himself creating a more elaborate and exciting choreography, with more vanguardist special effects for the time they were created and a more complex story. Only The King of Pop can surpass the The King of Pop!
Michael was able to top himself creating a more elaborate and exciting choreography, with more vanguardist special effects for the time they were created and a more complex story. Only The King of Pop can surpass the The King of Pop!
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C'mon "Ghosts" is winning? It is terrific but "Thriller" was his masterpiece. It's okay people to love "Thriller" just like the 65 million others who did/do.unk:
It's pretty much OK to prefer Ghosts too.
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This is hard one. they both good. but thriller is a classic. i'm gonna go with thriller.
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every moment of 'thriller' was crucial to the plot. they made the most of every second of the 14 minutes they had. there was a change of scenery and costumes. it travelled and had a point to it. the film was actually centred around the song - which was specially rearranged for the occasion. Michael and ola had great chemistry and the dialogue was memorable. the choreography was extensive, yet there was enough space for Michael to inject his flare. it was all uncharted territory at the time, and was an overall fun experience!
can't say the same for 'ghosts'..
it really was an example of how sometimes less is more. the entire thing was adequately condensed in the music video version. there wasn't much else to learn in the full 40 minutes (!)
it uneasily focuses on his personal life, yet there's no real depth. the audience is led to believe that the mayor is bad and the maestro is good, when they're both as bad as each other. sure, the mayor was wrong to storm into the castle, insult and threaten the maestro, and demand that he leave. however, the parents have every right to be concerned about their children being exposed to 'ghoulish trickeries'. the maestro couldn't care less as long as he and the children were having fun. he literally tells them 'too bad!'. he holds them hostage and terrorises them until they submit to his ways (which they still don't!). he was a manipulative bully in his on right, and the townspeople were swayed by whoever had the upper hand in the power trip between to two men.
the movie was uncomfortable, sinister, and unsuitable for children. particularly the fake death scene, and the part where demon possessed mayor was talking to himself in the hand mirror.
the majority of the action took place in that one room. with back and forth cut shots of the townspeople reacting to whatever the maestro was doing. Michael played the main characters and spent more time interacting with himself, than the countless extras who weren't given much to do. the song 'ghosts' which the movie was named after, appeared only as a brief afterthought, rather than the centrepiece it should have been.
much of the filler surprisingly came from the dance sequences! though I can't fault the '2bad' choreography, the scenes where the ghosts made a beat using their shoes, fists, and feet, and when they walk up the walls and float down from the ceiling, didn't advance the story at all.
the ghosts themselves are basically zombies that occasionally float. the part where they line up against the wall is ripped from 'thriller'. same could be said for the skeleton dance and 'billie jean'. there may have been a higher budget and spectacle, but there was less substance and innovation.
can't say the same for 'ghosts'..
it really was an example of how sometimes less is more. the entire thing was adequately condensed in the music video version. there wasn't much else to learn in the full 40 minutes (!)
it uneasily focuses on his personal life, yet there's no real depth. the audience is led to believe that the mayor is bad and the maestro is good, when they're both as bad as each other. sure, the mayor was wrong to storm into the castle, insult and threaten the maestro, and demand that he leave. however, the parents have every right to be concerned about their children being exposed to 'ghoulish trickeries'. the maestro couldn't care less as long as he and the children were having fun. he literally tells them 'too bad!'. he holds them hostage and terrorises them until they submit to his ways (which they still don't!). he was a manipulative bully in his on right, and the townspeople were swayed by whoever had the upper hand in the power trip between to two men.
the movie was uncomfortable, sinister, and unsuitable for children. particularly the fake death scene, and the part where demon possessed mayor was talking to himself in the hand mirror.
the majority of the action took place in that one room. with back and forth cut shots of the townspeople reacting to whatever the maestro was doing. Michael played the main characters and spent more time interacting with himself, than the countless extras who weren't given much to do. the song 'ghosts' which the movie was named after, appeared only as a brief afterthought, rather than the centrepiece it should have been.
much of the filler surprisingly came from the dance sequences! though I can't fault the '2bad' choreography, the scenes where the ghosts made a beat using their shoes, fists, and feet, and when they walk up the walls and float down from the ceiling, didn't advance the story at all.
the ghosts themselves are basically zombies that occasionally float. the part where they line up against the wall is ripped from 'thriller'. same could be said for the skeleton dance and 'billie jean'. there may have been a higher budget and spectacle, but there was less substance and innovation.
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every moment of 'thriller' was crucial to the plot. they made the most of every second of the 14 minutes they had. there was a change of scenery and costumes. it travelled and had a point to it. the film was actually centred around the song - which was specially rearranged for the occasion. Michael and ola had great chemistry and the dialogue was memorable. the choreography was extensive, yet there was enough space for Michael to inject his flare. it was all uncharted territory at the time, and was an overall fun experience!
can't say the same for 'ghosts'..
it really was an example of how sometimes less is more. the entire thing was adequately condensed in the music video version. there wasn't much else to learn in the full 40 minutes (!)
it uneasily focuses on his personal life, yet there's no real depth. the audience is led to believe that the mayor is bad and the maestro is good, when they're both as bad as each other. sure, the mayor was wrong to storm into the castle, insult and threaten the maestro, and demand that he leave. however, the parents have every right to be concerned about their children being exposed to 'ghoulish trickeries'. the maestro couldn't care less as long as he and the children were having fun. he literally tells them 'too bad!'. he holds them hostage and terrorises them until they submit to his ways (which they still don't!). he was a manipulative bully in his on right, and the townspeople were swayed by whoever had the upper hand in the power trip between to two men.
the movie was uncomfortable, sinister, and unsuitable for children. particularly the fake death scene, and the part where demon possessed mayor was talking to himself in the hand mirror.
the majority of the action took place in that one room. with back and forth cut shots of the townspeople reacting to whatever the maestro was doing. Michael played the main characters and spent more time interacting with himself, than the countless extras who weren't given much to do. the song 'ghosts' which the movie was named after, appeared only as a brief afterthought, rather than the centrepiece it should have been.
much of the filler surprisingly came from the dance sequences! though I can't fault the '2bad' choreography, the scenes where the ghosts made a beat using their shoes, fists, and feet, and when they walk up the walls and float down from the ceiling, didn't advance the story at all.
the ghosts themselves are basically zombies that occasionally float. the part where they line up against the wall is ripped from 'thriller'. same could be said for the skeleton dance and 'billie jean'. there may have been a higher budget and spectacle, but there was less substance and innovation.
This and this 2000 times.
Thriller was effective and to the point. Sure, the intro was too long but those were different times and the entire thing still holds up. I can't bring myself to watch Ghosts because there is just soooo much pointless dancing for the sake of dancing. In thriller, zombies were not just dancing, they were progressing the story. In Ghosts, the flow goes like:
1. story
2. dance sequence
3. story
4. dance sequence
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I love the story elements and Michael's transformations. I also like the overall story. But the execution is simply lacking polish.
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Ghosts 100% wish it was developed further into a more story driven plot. MJs acting was good!