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  • Invincible

    26 37.68%
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    Default Re: Invincible or Heartbreaker?

    Quote Originally Posted by AlwaysThere View Post
    I've always suspected his real name to be Norman Gregg, since that name is credited on both "Heartbreaker" and "Invincible" and is borderline non-existent anywhere else on the Internet, but I recall being told that that's incorrect. So, who knows?
    There is also the ‘On The Wall’ song from the ‘Honey’ dance film (released in 2003, with Jessica Alba).

    The credits (taken from that film’s soundtrack) on the ‘On The Wall’ song state that this song was written by Rodney Jerkins and Norman Gregg and the song was performed by Fats.

    Also, in the ‘Kick It’ song (outtake from ‘Invincible’), Norman Gregg is credited as a co-writer.

    In the re-worked version of the ‘Chicago 1945’ song (outtake from ‘Invincible’), Norman Gregg is credited as a co-writer.

    In the re-worked version of the ‘Cheater’ song (outtake from ‘Invincible’), Fats is credited as a co-writer.

    These things suggest that Norman Gregg and Fats are two different persons.

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    Default Re: Invincible or Heartbreaker?

    Could still be the same person.
    Credits often have mistakes. In the reworked 'Cheater' it could be a mixup of his producer name and performance alias (nick name?) by whoever put the credits together.
    Last edited by Electro; 19-05-2020 at 02:11 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Electro View Post
    Credits often have mistakes.
    Also artists have used fake names when working on other acts music so they don't have to bother about getting permission from their label or don't want the public to know about it. Sometimes they just decline to be credited altogether.

    Dr. Winston O'Boogie (John Lennon)
    L’Angelo Mysterioso, P. Roducer, Nelson Wilbury, Jai Raj Harrison, George O'Hara-Smith Singers (George Harrison)
    El Toro Negro (Stevie Wonder)
    Dawili Gonga (George Duke)
    The Beat Brothers (The Beatles)
    Cleo Henry (Miles Davis)
    Klark Kent (Stewart Copeland)
    Apollo C. Vermouth, The Fireman, Paul Ramon, Percy Thrillington, Bernard E. Webb (Paul McCartney)
    Alexander Nevermind, Jamie Starr, Joey Coco, Camille (Prince)
    Chris Gaines (Garth Brooks)
    Ann Orson (Elton John)
    Nanker Phelge (Rolling Stones)
    Angela Dust (Boy George)
    Texas Slim, The Boogie Man, Johnny Williams, Birmingham Sam (John Lee Hooker)
    Nathanial Hörnblowér (MCA from Beastie Boys)

    With songwriting credits people have added names of family members or friends to help them out financially. Some bands credit everybody in the group, even if a particular member wrote anything or not. Many Lennon/McCartney songs were written separately. The heads of record labels or managers have added their names to credits without the real writers knowing about it until after the record comes out. That was more common when the mafia was behind the scenes in show business.

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    Default Re: Invincible or Heartbreaker?

    Heartbreaker any day. That chorus is so good.

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