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Discord Over Strategy on Dr. Conrad Murray's Defense Team

The lawyers representing Dr. Conrad Murray in Los Angeles Superior Court had no reason to cheer on Nov. 8, but it wasn't just the guilty verdict that created tension on the trial team.

For much of the trial, discord dominated relations between Houston lawyer Ed Chernoff, who led the criminal-defense team for Murray, and his co-counsel J. Michael Flanagan of Glendale, Calif.'s Flanagan Unger Grover & McCool. Neither lawyer plans to represent Murray on appeal.

"This is the first time I've done a case with co-counsel in 30 years, and we had a difference of opinion about how the case should be handled," Flanagan says.

The California criminal trial of Murray ended with the jury convicting him of one count of involuntary manslaughter related to the death of pop star Michael Jackson. Citing Murray's significant ties outside the state of California (Murray formerly had a practice in Houston) and public safety concerns, Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Michael E. Pastor remanded Murray into custody, noting sentencing would occur on Nov. 29.

Chernoff of Stradley Chernoff & Alford sat at the defense table with Flanagan for the entire six weeks of the trial. At the start, Chernoff lived at Flanagan's home to save on expenses, but after several weeks Chernoff says he moved out. The cause of the strained relationship? Disagreements over trial strategy, specifically how to handle the examination of expert witnesses, among other things. Plus, Chernoff says, "You can only impose on co-counsel for so long."

Flanagan says, "Dr. Murray got Monday morning-quarterbacking on his doctoring, so I don't want to be Monday morning-quarterbacking Ed's lawyering." But he notes that he disagreed with Chernoff over whether Murray should testify on his own behalf: Flanagan thought he should, but Chernoff said no. In the end, Murray did not take the stand.

"You had a doctor providing an unusual drug under unusual circumstances for an unusual person. We could never get past that as logical as we tried to be. And as much as we tried to differentiate the case from that, we couldn't get past it. There was an elephant in the room and we could never feed it enough peanuts," Chernoff says, referring to the decision not to have Murray testify.

But Flanagan says, "I think the elephant was the need for the doctor to explain what he did."

Flanagan says he also proposed a different tack for cross-examining the last prosecution witness: Dr. Stephen Shafer, an anesthesiologist. "I thought we ought to go after Shafer real hard. Ed didn't," Flanagan says. At trial, it was Chernoff who cross-examined Shafer — instead of Flanagan, as the defense team initially had planned.

The tension between Chernoff and Flanagan was apparent in the documentary "Michael Jackson and the Doctor: A Fatal Friendship," which recently aired on MNSBC and other networks. In one scene, Chernoff prepares to leave Flanagan's house as Flanagan curses at Chernoff, then admonishes him saying he has the trial strategy "all mapped out. . . ."

Chernoff says "the carnival atmosphere" put more pressure on the defense team and on Murray. "The press tried to create drama; the whole thing was a reality show," Chernoff says. Thankfully, the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department helped the defense team use "backdoor entrances" to avoid the press, he says. "They took my client and me away from the hordes of people out there when they could have done nothing."

Occasional weekends home in Houston and several excursions to the beach in California also eased the stress, Chernoff says.

"In a trial like this you are going to have some disagreements among the counsel, and the lead counsel has to make the decisions," Chernoff says. "And that's the way it was happening at this trial. I had to make some decisions."

Back to California

Within 48 hours of the verdict in People of the State of California v. Conrad Robert Murray , Chernoff had flown back to Houston, welcomed by his law partners who needed him to get back to work right away. But it isn't just Murrays' sentencing that will have Chernoff and partner Matt Alford back in California on Nov. 29.

Judge Pastor has ordered Alford to appear before him at a hearing related to Alford's September appearance on NBC's "Today" show. Pastor had issued a gag order in Murray's case. "In my 20 years of practice I have never knowingly or otherwise violated a court order," Alford says.

Chernoff says of the hearing, "I think it's bullish and typical."

Chernoff and Flanagan will represent Murray at his Nov. 29 sentencing hearing, where Murray faces up to four years in prison. Chernoff says he has turned to a sentencing specialist with a background in the California justice system for help preparing. He has not decided if he will present any witnesses at the hearing. Unlike Texas, California juries do not participate in sentencing, he says.

Sandi Gibbons, a spokeswoman for the Los Angeles County District Attorney's Office, which prosecuted Murray, did not return a telephone call and an email seeking comment.

Chernoff says he has received telephone calls from prospective clients who watched him defend Murray. "I've already got a couple calls from California," notes Chernoff, who passed the California bar exam last year. [See "Houston Meets Hollywood," Texas Lawyer , Jan. 31, 2011, page 1.]

But he has no plans to take on any more California cases. "I'm not saying there is not another case; I reckon I will. But it's going to have to be a special case."

It is unknown who will represent Murray in his appeal, Chernoff says. Flanagan says he prefers trial work. Chernoff says he already has spent three months away from his Houston firm, and his partners and family "deserve better than that." Plus he has a trial set to begin in a Houston court on Dec. 15.

He believes a new lawyer who wasn't involved with the trial will have a fresh perspective and be better equipped to develop an effective appellate strategy for Murray.

Citing attorney-client privilege, Chernoff and Flanagan decline to discuss how much they charged Murray in legal fees. But so far, the financial remuneration for representing Murray has not been equal to the task, Chernoff says. "If Dr. Murray had paid me a quarter-million dollars, it was entirely too little considering the amount of work that was involved and the collateral issues that were attached," Chernoff says.

In January, Chernoff told Texas Lawyer, "If I walk out with my client at the end of the trial, it's going to have a tremendous impact on my practice. If I don't walk out [with him], I'm going to be the guy who lost the biggest trial since O.J. Simpson's." Now that Murray's trial is over, Chernoff sticks by that sentiment.

"I'm glad I did it," he says, "but, yes, it's a big loss. But as a defense attorney you are not worth a crap if you don't try these things. Defense attorneys often lose, but what differentiates those attorneys are those who are willing to get on the bull in the first place."

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You're gonna kill me, but I like Chernoff. He was sensible in not allowing Murray to testify. Not confronting Shafer, something Flanagan wanted to. I like the way he says "as a defense attorney you are not worth a crap if you don't try these things. Defense attorneys often lose, but what differentiates those attorneys are those who are willing to get on the bull in the first place." It was a lost case since the beginning, however, even losing the case, it will have a positive effect in his career.
 
I prefer Chernoff to Flanagan, even though the defence was all over the place. He was completely right in not allowing Murray on the stand as Walgren would have torn him to absolute shreds.
 
You're gonna kill me, but I like Chernoff. He was sensible in not allowing Murray to testify. Not confronting Shafer, something Flanagan wanted to. I like the way he says "as a defense attorney you are not worth a crap if you don't try these things. Defense attorneys often lose, but what differentiates those attorneys are those who are willing to get on the bull in the first place." It was a lost case since the beginning, however, even losing the case, it will have a positive effect in his career.

I liked Chernoff also. Judge limited the defense in a huge way, I would have liked to have Thome, Klein, KF & others testify.
 
Judge Pastor has ordered Alford to appear before him at a hearing related to Alford's September appearance on NBC's "Today" show. Pastor had issued a gag order in Murray's case. "In my 20 years of practice I have never knowingly or otherwise violated a court order," Alford says.

Chernoff says of the hearing, "I think it's bullish and typical."


Well i think that was arrogant of chernoff to say that
 
I prefer Chernoff to Flanagan, even though the defence was all over the place. He was completely right in not allowing Murray on the stand as Walgren would have torn him to absolute shreds.
Personally, this is the biggest thing I'm upset over that Murray's ass got away without testifying. Grandpa Flanazepam-Senile should have won this fight, and let Murray take the stand, it would've been great, to see his arrogant ass under oath. I'm sure he would've attacked Walgren, but no doubt Walgren would've torn his ugly disgusting smelly ass apart, something he would've deserved.
 
I also changed my mind about Chernoff when I watched the documentary. I think that it is possible that Murray lied to him back in 2009, he would never of allowed the police interview otherwise. By the time they went to trial, he knew they had no case. Flanagan was more likable during the trial but most of the time it seemed as he was working for the prosecution. And however rude and obnoxious Chernoff was, the aggressiveness is part of the job description.
 
Chernoff was doing his job, i do not have a problem with him.
Even a guilty defendant has the right to an attorney.
As a person Chernoff seems okay to me.

Flanagan, after watching the documentaire, is a narrowminded asshole in my opinion.
 
I can't but admit sometimes Chernoff did a brilliant cross. Sometimes he even had a bit of respect to victim (let's remember his words during 'family dinner' in Murray documentary).

I've heard Chernoff was against airing this film, wasnt he? If so, i'm really not suprised why he decided not to represent Murray on appeal. It's hard to imagine worse look of his client who did that losing interview and irreverent film instead of honest testimony in the courtroom.

I'm for sure Flanagan was a disaster for Murray's defence. I cant understand why he crossed key witnesses. All could see he was a loser.
 
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chernoff was an arsehole as a lawyer with his snide comments at witnesses. whether its a show he puts on for his job i dont know but even if it is you have to be that sort of person to start with to act like that in the first place imo
 
chernoff was an arsehole as a lawyer with his snide comments at witnesses. whether its a show he puts on for his job i dont know but even if it is you have to be that sort of person to start with to act like that in the first place imo

i think it's because he often lost his temper. he could nothing to do but to be tough. sure it was very pointedly
 
I also changed my mind about Chernoff when I watched the documentary. I think that it is possible that Murray lied to him back in 2009, he would never of allowed the police interview otherwise. By the time they went to trial, he knew they had no case. Flanagan was more likable during the trial but most of the time it seemed as he was working for the prosecution. And however rude and obnoxious Chernoff was, the aggressiveness is part of the job description.

I agree, and I think Flanagan was pretty much the sole reason the defence sucked so much during the trial. He wanted to talk to Shafer about truly irrelevant things and Chernoff saw the hopelessness in doing that, and asking Murray to testify?! Lunacy! I would have sworn Flanagan was a prosecution lawyer if I hadn't been watching the trial from day one, just on the kind of questions he asked and the way he acted.

He was a Hell of a lot more likable in the courtroom than Chernoff, who was arrogant and rude. I find it interesting they completely switched personalities for the MSNBC documentary, so I'm not sure how authentic a representation of either that documentary presents. Unlike the live streams, documentaries can be skewed and edited to show whatever the filmmaker wants to present (see Bashir), so I don't put much stock in them, even on extraneous matters. It's always the filmmaker's lens we're seeing, and not the events as they truly unfolded.

With that said, I think it is very possible that Murray misrepresented his situation to both Chernoff and Flanagan back in 2009, and by the time either realized what they had gotten themselves into, it was most probably too late--which explains why they're both walking out now. If you truly cared about your client or believed in his innocence, chances are you would stick around for an appeal. I think Chernoff's reasons are the more valid of the two--he has had to make various sacrifices to represent Murray for as long as he did, being an out-of-state attorney. His family does indeed deserve better, as they have nothing to do with Murray or his horsef--ery.

Flanagan's reason are just lolworthy. He's basically just not wanting to do it at all, and being local, he very well could do it without much sacrifice on his part. I take it neither of them are entirely thrilled with their paycheck.

@Twinklee: I don't think Flanazapam has ever won a fight in his life--except maybe the one where he got rid of Chernoff, but Cherry kinda walked out on him, so I'm not sure that even counts. But I agree, I would have liked to see Murray testify, even if the proposal itself was basically defence suicide.
 
The defence was allowed to use the back door to enter the court??? If I remember correctly Michael always had to use the front entrance in 2005.
 
I read Flanny was supposed to be the "medical" side of the defense, and he totally sucked at it, which surprised me. He couldnt even read the names of medical items/products, had no point, didnt seem to have his questions ready. He was absolutely ridiculous, and far worse than Chernoff. Maybe Chernoff is a bit of an arse outside of a courtroom, and was certainly irritating at times, but I didnt get the bad vibes I got from Flanagan who seemed very arrogant. I dont think Chernoff's a "bad guy", even if I agree he was sometimes very rude with the witnesses.

The fact they dont get along does not surprise me at all. I've got the feeling Chernoff deeply regrets his involvement in the case.
 
He couldnt even read the names of medical items/products, had no point, didnt seem to have his questions ready. He was absolutely ridiculous, and far worse than Chernoff.

Sometimes he looked like drunk.
 
I'm a long time admirer of many posters here and this is the first time I felt the need to comment.
I know everyone has the right to be represented in court but in a fair way (the operative word here being "fair"). To put the cloud of suspicion of a suicide upon a family without proof is unfair. Is disgusting. I'd like to ask Chernoff the same question he asked the jurors in his disastrous closing with a little difference in wording: if it wasn't MJ, would HE be there? I don't think so.
 
I'm a long time admirer of many posters here and this is the first time I felt the need to comment.
I know everyone has the right to be represented in court but in a fair way (the operative word here being "fair"). To put the cloud of suspicion of a suicide upon a family without proof is unfair. Is disgusting. I'd like to ask Chernoff the same question he asked the jurors in his disastrous closing with a little difference in wording: if it wasn't MJ, would HE be there? I don't think so.
i would say Chernoff would. but Flan.......NOPE
 
i would say Chernoff would. but Flan.......NOPE

I agree. Chernoff seemed to legitimately care about Murray. Flanagan on the other part seemed mostly attracted to the high profile nature of the case, and Murray himself kind of faded into the background as far as where his interest was focused (lol Dr. Murphy). Then again, the Flan man is kind of a celebrity lawyer (see Britney Spears), whereas Chernoff is more used to working with plain everyday folk, and despite being an asshole, Cherry Pie seems like the more down-to-Earth of the two.
 
...I've got the feeling Chernoff deeply regrets his involvement in the case.

I don't quite think that. He's already broadcasting to the world that he'd like "special" cases.
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So he's already trying to build himself on the "call me, I'm the guy for seemingly unwinnable cases". Kinda the way Mesereau is the to-go-to guy for death penalty cases in the deep south. The difference with Mesereau is that he had a very different approach even in public- despite taking on cases like that- I don't recall Mesereau calling a judge and his methods by questionable names. Mesereau always made sure to publicly behave in a dignified, non-hysterical manner which was very much reflected even in the way Mesereau chose to express himself (verbally).
Mesereau is so diplomatic- almost too much so, but only almost.

Chernoff comes across as passionate, but as rude. Chernoff tried to emphasize from the very get-go what Walgren later came to coin as the "poor Conrad Murray, poor Conrad Murray" defense. If there is one thing that people don't like it's
a) a self-pity party (unless people are pitying themselves) and

b) they chose to focus on Michael and what a diva he supposedly was. Whoever did their PR- that's where heads need to roll. They bashed Michael when they should have appealed to the 'common sense' patient. Every guy over 50 is gonna think in horror about their doctor- and what they would think of their Doctor would tell such stories about them. Murray lost all sympathy points with that police interview- and they had two day to come up with something smart. Instead they threw Michael under the bus...what a boomerang that was.

c) people only like cocky when cocky is being accompanied by success.
Asking Elyssa Fleak if she knows what a toilet is being used for to discredit her investigative work- I would think that just about everyone in that courtroom thought that Chernoff is acting like a d%^& in vain. If you act like a d%^&*, you need to back it up- otherwise you just leave the impression of someone sitting on a tractor, screaming "YEHAAAAAAAAAAAW!" while ruining the farmer's crop.
d) their entire defense looked as if they catered to MJ haters. ????????? Huh? Especially after you knew that some jurors even watched TII? Talk about denial!

I think Chernoff knew he would never win this case. But I think he took it figuring that one way or the other it would raise his profile and help him out. But man, Murray sure is a liability.
If I were a client I would stay far away, if my own lawyer (Flanagan) is so willfully ignorant that he has even trouble addressing me by my correct name. Either that's a sign of dementia- or a lawyer that just doesn't give a $%^&. That could have easily been the case of his life- and he can't even pronounce the terms he's grilling an expert witness on- *shudder*.

I would swear to you that 3rd semester students in mock trials do a better job a preparation. After hearing "benzodiazepines" pronounced in 3 different ways, I just laughed. These are supposedly the big guns- and they can't pronounce their own strategy? EEEEEEEEEEKS.
 
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If I were a client I would stay far away, if my own lawyer is so willfully ignorant that he has even trouble addressing me by my correct name. Either that's a sign of dementia- or a lawyer that just doesn't give a $%^&. That could have easily been the case of his life- and he can't even pronounce the terms he's grilling an expert witness on- *shudder*.

^That's Flanny, though! Cherry Pie did get Dr. Murphy's name right, and got most of the medical stuff well enough.

With that said, I agree with you 100%.
 
or much of the trial, discord dominated relations between Houston lawyer Ed Chernoff, who led the criminal-defense team for Murray, and his co-counsel J. Michael Flanagan of Glendale, Calif.'s Flanagan Unger Grover & McCool. Neither lawyer plans to represent Murray on appeal.

Will you look at that, both of them are bailing on Murray.....so who's gonna represent him then?
 
Will you look at that, both of them are bailing on Murray.....so who's gonna represent him then?

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Oh please these lawyers need to stop the crying and finger pointing and admit that nothing they could have done would help that case. Why would Muarry testify when he lied about everything. If Flanny believes him, then I wonder how he made it in the business so long. The reason they do not want to do the appeal is because they know this is a losing case. They need to go back to their respective practices, allow Muarry to go to prison, and move on.
 
^They just want their names in the headlines. If Flanny believed him, he'd stick around. Neither one of them wants to touch the case with a 10 foot pole after the entire month-long fiasco they had to deal with.
 
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