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    Hm, 'worst' song makes me hesitant, wished this was worded differently. Not because I think that any musician is blessed with musical 'infallibility'= that even happens to a Beethoven...
    Just because 'worst' is such an odd way to describe a musician's music- a musician who above all had TASTE, which is a rare thing. He rode a fine line between innovation, mainstream appeal, keeping it short enough for his attention span shrinking contemporaries, overloaded that attention span in songs like "Ghosts" etc, could be cheesy and calculated as heck and cringe worthy, too- all while moving an audience. It takes taste to accomplish all that.

    A song that doen't hit home with me is "Don't walk away"- I simply cringe throughout the entire song, I don't even know why. The topic? No idea. Or maybe that's exactly the reaction that was intended??:ph34r::wild: If you're already pretty made up to end a relationship- someone on their knees is gonna make you cringe.

    When it comes to songs he participated in: "All In Your Name". While I'm thrilled that we got some footage and am sure they had a lovely time together- that is definitely a song that makes me cry "WHY???????" :*****:
    The lyrics are okay with me, the chorus is very nice- the vocals completely put me off and I understand why it didn't see the light of day earlier. It feels like BOTH are screeching at their upper range and that just doesn't make for comfortable listening. There, I said it. And there's a reason that song stayed in the dark.

    Btw, I totally and utterly adore non-praised songs like "Can't Let Her Get Away"- it's completely non-mainstream compatible and pushes the entire envelope of 'how is a contemporary song being constructed', not to mention that the frustration of "who knows the situation, mysteries still remain" is catchy as heck!
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    Lol, if every single fan gives a different title of the "worst" song, the global answer results in the funny situation that ALL MJ songs are weak and bad. Just saying

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    Quote Originally Posted by BUMPER SNIPPET View Post
    Lol, if every single fan gives a different title of the "worst" song, the global answer results in the funny situation that ALL MJ songs are weak and bad. Just saying
    Lol true.

    I'm not a fan of both Burn This Disco Out and Girlfriend. BTDO doesn't hit anything with me and Girlfriend just annoys me. Worst song in reality? Privacy, Cry, or 2000 Watts possibly. None of them touch me in any way although I do love the use of MJ's deeper voice in 2000 Watts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BUMPER SNIPPET View Post
    Lol, if every single fan gives a different title of the "worst" song, the global answer results in the funny situation that ALL MJ songs are weak and bad. Just saying
    Depends on how you want to look at it. Music is subjective, true, and if you want to take every single song posted in this thread into consideration you will eventually conclude, as you did, that all his song are indeed the "worst". But if you want the general consensus of a community (in this case, this discussion board) Then you WILL come up with a concise, objective list of what the community considers as his worst songs by taking only the song that frequent more than others. Even though we are still in the third page a few candidates have indeed began to stand out. They don't necessarily reflect your personal opinion. But it does reflect this community's opinion as a whole.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ASIS View Post
    Depends on how you want to look at it. Music is subjective, true, and if you want to take every single song posted in this thread into consideration you will eventually conclude, as you did, that all his song are indeed the "worst". But if you want the general consensus of a community (in this case, this discussion board) Then you WILL come up with a concise, objective list of what the community considers as his worst songs by taking only the song that frequent more than others. Even though we are still in the third page a few candidates have indeed began to stand out. They don't necessarily reflect your personal opinion. But it does reflect this community's opinion as a whole.
    But the prob is that not every single MJ fan posts inhere. So, you will never be able to conclude which song is the worst. And by the way, worst for what? For not matching the taste of the majority? The majority is not equal to objectivity. So it's a dead-end.

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    This Time Around for me.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BUMPER SNIPPET View Post
    But the prob is that not every single MJ fan posts inhere. So, you will never be able to conclude which song is the worst. And by the way, worst for what? For not matching the taste of the majority? The majority is not equal to objectivity. So it's a dead-end.
    That is precisely why i said that this thread is a reflection of this board. It won't be 100% until every fan posts, true, but it does give an indication. And by worst the OP means the worst song in comparison to Michael Jackson's standards. It doesn't mean that the songs are bad but they are of lower standards than his other work. Finally, I never said the majority will equal objectivity, in fact I said that your opinion shouldn't reflect the list that is showing on other people's posts. But I can safely say that the majority of the people who posted on this thread believe This Time Around, Can't Let Her Get Away, or The Lost Children to be some of Michael's worst songs. That is a statement that cannot be denied and hence, is an objective one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ASIS View Post
    That is precisely why i said that this thread is a reflection of this board. It won't be 100% until every fan posts, true, but it does give an indication. And by worst the OP means the worst song in comparison to Michael Jackson's standards. It doesn't mean that the songs are bad but they are of lower standards than his other work. Finally, I never said the majority will equal objectivity, in fact I said that your opinion shouldn't reflect the list that is showing on other people's posts. But I can safely say that the majority of the people who posted on this thread believe This Time Around, Can't Let Her Get Away, or The Lost Children to be some of Michael's worst songs. That is a statement that cannot be denied and hence, is an objective one.

    Um that objectivity could easily be reversed by those who are to post, if they post.

    Now clearly if we played "The Lost Children" in a disco bar and "2000 Watts" to grand parents at X-mas, something would be wrong. But if we reverse the situations, it'd create much more approriate atmosphere.

    Michael sang "The Lost Children" to his own children. I am sure he'd disagree that it's a weak song despite what the community on this board says.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BUMPER SNIPPET View Post
    Um that objectivity could easily be reversed by those who are to post, if they post.

    Now clearly if we played "The Lost Children" in a disco bar and "2000 Watts" to grand parents at X-mas, something would be wrong. But if we reverse the situations, it'd create much more approriate atmosphere.

    Michael sang "The Lost Children" to his own children. I am sure he'd disagree that it's a weak song despite what the community on this board says.
    I'm not sure you quite understood what I'm trying to say. The songs cannot be factually weak, that goes against the first rule of music, what one could consider garbage is a treasure to another. I'm strictly talking about a community's perception to a song. Taking the example you posted, the communities would consider those songs to be weak because they are not quite the type of songs said communities are looking for,their perception is a fact to them, but does that mean the songs themselves are inherently weak? There is no possible way to determine that.

    PS. I think The Lost Children to be one of MJ's best compositions but alas that's not what the members at the board seem to think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ASIS View Post
    I'm not sure you quite understood what I'm trying to say. The songs cannot be factually weak, that goes against the first rule of music, what one could consider garbage is a treasure to another. I'm strictly talking about a community's perception to a song. Taking the example you posted, the communities would consider those songs to be weak because they are not quite the type of songs said communities are looking for,their perception is a fact to them, but does that mean the songs themselves are inherently weak? There is no possible way to determine that.

    PS. I think The Lost Children to be one of MJ's best compositions but alas that's not what the members at the board seem to think.
    Well, ok, that was my point since the beginning.

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    Bad.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BUMPER SNIPPET View Post
    Well, ok, that was my point since the beginning.
    I was just trying to show you that subjectivity can have a on objective outcome and vice versa. The two are not mutually exclusive. If that's what you meant from your posts then yeah I think I've wasted both our times but that wasn't the impression I got. That's all. :P

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    I can't believe so many people have said The Lost Children, it's beautiful!

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