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    Default Re: Wembley DVD Critique /Quality - All discussion on the quality of Wembley DVD go here

    Quote Originally Posted by dmehta View Post
    They can't find the Umatic's for the 16th. We don't know if they have the Umatic's for the other Wembley dates.

    Mixing the audio from the 16th with video from another date would not be authentic.
    We do since that article. There are others from 16th and 15th. They can't find it in their archives and storage, but what about other sources?
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    Default Re: Wembley DVD Critique /Quality - All discussion on the quality of Wembley DVD go here

    Quote Originally Posted by lom kit View Post
    And the angles in wembley are really not good. thats why jumbotrons feeds are not good for releases. but thats what we wanted. unedited, straight video. just like 'in-house' audio recording its not usefull, so is on 'in time' video not too. thats what many don't realize and feel they missing and this is not authentic.
    That's the word I was looking for. I was thinking how to describe it. It's not authentic at all! This is all true. I am more looking forward to the audio then the video honestly. Hopefully it's proper mix and we can make our own mix and raise certain instruments and that good stuff. And I don't know why many fans want that. It's really not that great....
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    Default Re: Wembley DVD Critique /Quality - All discussion on the quality of Wembley DVD go here

    Quote Originally Posted by code753cr View Post
    I am more looking forward to the audio then the video honestly.
    Same I do I'm more excited about the multitracks of the show than the video. I probably would not if the quality was better...

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    Default Re: Wembley DVD Critique /Quality - All discussion on the quality of Wembley DVD go here

    I've enjoyed a lot worse quality MJ footage. I'll enjoy this concert probably more than any other I've seen. Hopefully the film reels are found and released, but it won't happen in the short term.
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    Quote Originally Posted by code753cr View Post
    We do since that article. There are others from 16th and 15th. They can't find it in their archives and storage, but what about other sources?
    The press release from the Estate made it clear that they do not have the Umatic's for the 16th. They may exist, but can't be located. The press release also said they had Umatic's for other concerts, but sub-standard audio. We don't actually know what concerts they have Umatic's for, because they didn't say. They could have the Umatic's for one of the other Wembley dates, but we don't know.

    Either way, they only have access to the multi-tracks from one concert - 16th July, Wembley. Which, if true, is a travesty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmehta View Post
    The press release from the Estate made it clear that they do not have the Umatic's for the 16th. They may exist, but can't be located. The press release also said they had Umatic's for other concerts, but sub-standard audio. We don't actually know what concerts they have Umatic's for, because they didn't say. They could have the Umatic's for one of the other Wembley dates, but we don't know.

    Either way, they only have access to the multi-tracks from one concert - 16th July, Wembley. Which, if true, is a travesty.
    We know that they have July 15 Tape because they are releasing TWYMMF...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmehta View Post
    The press release from the Estate made it clear that they do not have the Umatic's for the 16th. They may exist, but can't be located. The press release also said they had Umatic's for other concerts, but sub-standard audio. We don't actually know what concerts they have Umatic's for, because they didn't say. They could have the Umatic's for one of the other Wembley dates, but we don't know.

    Either way, they only have access to the multi-tracks from one concert - 16th July, Wembley. Which, if true, is a travesty.
    They have July 15th and And they can't be located in their storage archives, but what about others....?
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    Quote Originally Posted by code753cr View Post
    They have July 15th and And they can't be located in their storage archives, but what about others....?
    In trying to decipher the Estate's press release, it is my understanding (although I could be wrong) that they don't have access to the Umatic's from ANY of the Wembley shows. Therefore, TWYMMF from the 15th was probably on Michael's VHS as well.

    Take this portion of the press release:

    So while we believe that the Umatic tape for Wembley was initially sent for storage, we have not been able to locate it. And with regard to the Umatic footage of other concerts, the audio is extremely problematic and therefore these concerts are unusable.

    When they say that the Umatic tape for Wembley was sent for storage, but are unable to locate it - I'm pretty sure they mean they can't find the Umatic's for ALL 7 Wembley shows. Because they then go on to say that they have Umatic's for "other concerts" - which must mean concerts other than Wembley. If they had Umatic's for any of the Wembley shows they would have said so.

    Therefore, as I said above, I'm guessing TWYMMF from the 15th was on the VHS Mike had - since he didn't perform it on the 16th he probably asked for the performance from the 15th to be included on the VHS so he could review it.

    Once we see the DVD we'll know for sure, but I'm guessing the quality of TWYMMF from the 15th is the same as the other songs from the 16th.

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    Default Re: Wembley DVD Critique /Quality - All discussion on the quality of Wembley DVD go here

    posting screenshots gives a small insight into the quality, freezing it gives the impression of bad quality however when in motion the shots aren't nearly as bad, it will be absolutely fine to watch in my opinion



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    Quote Originally Posted by Robbsaber01 View Post
    We know that they have July 15 Tape because they are releasing TWYMMF...
    no I believe that's "promo material", not a Umatic. Maybe only "select" few songs from July 15 were available as a promo tape they used. The little bit of TWYMMF in that TV spot looks very similar in quality to the Bad performance aired at the MTV Awards. It appears to be cleaner but also softer and not oversharpened like the July 16 VHS.
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    looking forward to mkgenie sharing with us the original clip of Another Part Of Me today :-)

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    I'm choosing to look at it this way. If this really is Michael's single greatest performance, and it truly does only exist on this one VHS tape, then we are very lucky to be getting it in any sort of quality!

    I'm also pretty sure this isn't the last we'll see of the Bad tour. Not by a long shot.
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    I think we can critique the quality a lot more better after Human Nature. It's not that compressed and it's much more clearer.
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    For something that's from a 25 year old VHS tape the quality is very impressive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by analogue View Post
    For something that's from a 25 year old VHS tape the quality is very impressive.
    I agree completely, really impressive, and the audio is incredible as well.

    It's funny though how people keep trying to make comparison to Queen concerts, THIS IS NOT QUEEN. That is all, thank you.
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