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    Default Re: The origins of "Whatever Happens"

    Whatever happens is adorable..he interprets it with passion. I'm listening it at this moment.
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    I always thought it was "He gives another smile" too! Played that part a couple of times over and I'll now sing "He gives a nervous smile", but I still can't help but hear the word "another" as well :P

    One of my most favourite songs off Invincible

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    Quote Originally Posted by respect77 View Post
    Yes, I agree that out of all MJ albums Invincible sounds the least Michael-ish and it's my least favorite album of him too, but on the other hand it has some gems and even elements which are more impressive in the hindsight (such as his use of dubstep in 2001!!).

    But I agree that Michael's best songs were always the ones he wrote and it's a shame he did not write more on Vince. On Vince every song has a big number of writers and producers and that eventually kills off the Michael-feel of them.
    dubstep?

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    A fantastic song, and a highlight of the invincible album.

    However, to me the album is over produced. While there are no bad songs on the record, I also feel the production of most of the songs takes away from what made every other album Different. Music in general in 2001 (not too unlike now) hit a low point for me. I found most popular music sounded like it was produced by the same people, and to me invincible is no different. I love this album still, and is the only good thing for me to come out during a terrible period in music, but I wish that Michael had used less producers to give the songs a more natural feel.

    I worry for the new album also. The current sound of music to me is absolutely awful- everything sounds like it was produced by either will.i.am or david Guetta. Music again has lost its originality (even some rock bands of today are using this dance style production). I long for a crack in the clouds and music to sound inspired and innovative again, but I really just hope that the new Michael album will not have this sound and truly sound like Michael would have really wanted.

    Just because it sounds current, does not mean it sounds great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by innuendo141 View Post
    A fantastic song, and a highlight of the invincible album.

    However, to me the album is over produced... ...I worry for the new album also. The current sound of music to me is absolutely awful- everything sounds like it was produced by either will.i.am or david Guetta. Music again has lost its originality (even some rock bands of today are using this dance style production). I long for a crack in the clouds and music to sound inspired and innovative again, but I really just hope that the new Michael album will not have this sound and truly sound like Michael would have really wanted.

    Just because it sounds current, does not mean it sounds great.
    I agree on the overproduced part for Invincible.

    I would say that 'the current sound of music' pretty much just comes down to personal taste. I quite like a lot of the music being produced today and as such, like a decent amount of music that is released these days. For the record, I listen to both mainstream and non-mainstream artists, it varies. That's why I think that concept of including both the demos and updated songs is great because it allows everyone to enjoy the music, regardless of whether they like the sound of today's music or not. I know that Michael often wanted to sound modern and push the medium at the same time so who knows what producers like Timbaland will do. Maybe they'll try and push MJ's songs to where music is going next! Who knows

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    Having subsequently heard much of the material that never made the final cut, I do think there was potential for Invincible to have been a much better album than it ended up being.

    1. Unbreakable
    2. Hollywood Tonight
    3. Invincible
    4. Break of Dawn
    5. Heaven Can Wait
    6. You Rock My World
    7. Butterflies
    8. Speechless
    9. Another Day
    10. You Are My Life
    11. We've Had Enough
    12. The Lost Children
    13. Whatever Happens
    14. Threatened

    Now that's a tight album right there. Still probably not as good as History or Dangerous, but much better than what we ended up getting on Invincible. The inclusion of Hollywood Tonight and We've Had Enough really bolster the amount of A grade MJ songs on the album, and Another Day is ten times better than dross like Privacy or Don't Walk Away.

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    I like Don't Walk Away. Can't say I prefer Another Day. I'd have rather left out You Are My Life or The Lost Children than Don't Walk Away.
    But yeah, there are a lot of outtakes from that era that could have made it a better album. Having said that even in its released form the album had more potential than what it achieved. But everyone knows the story about that.

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    Do you not like The Lost Children? To me, it's quintessential MJ. I appreciate that some may find it a little too saccharine, but then no more so than a song like Heal The World. I think it's one of the most honest songs on the album.

    I actually think the first half of Invincible (up to and including Speechless) is pretty strong. But it goes a bit all over the place in the second half and lacks any real focus.

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    The Lost Children is OK, but I'm not crazy for that song. I prefer Don't Walk Away. I also understand that a song like You Are My Life was important to him for personal reasons, but again I'm not crazy for it. But then if Freddie Mercury could write a cheesy song for his cat on a Queen album... well it makes You Are My Life sound great. LOL.

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    I like invincible. I have a couple favorite songs off that album. I love "don't walk away", "you are my life", "speechless", "you rock my world", "whatever happens", "butterflies", "break of dawn", "the lost children", "privacy", and these are not in any particular order.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterflies. View Post
    The Lost Children is one of my favorite songs from Invincible. You guys might say that Invincible sounded less like "Michael" but you got to admit, his vocals were amazing in that album.
    This is a really good point and it reminds me that Seth Riggs said that a singer's voice is best during the later years--I think he said from 35-50. It takes time for the voice to mature and develop its full power.

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    Reminds me that when MJ sang Akon's HMH--Akon said "he took it to a whole other level" and I think this is what goes on with Whatever Happens. Listening to the demo and then MJ, I hear MJ taking that song to a whole other level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamba View Post
    Reminds me that when MJ sang Akon's HMH--Akon said "he took it to a whole other level" and I think this is what goes on with Whatever Happens. Listening to the demo and then MJ, I hear MJ taking that song to a whole other level.
    I agree. Michael's vocals on that song are amazing. The sheer emotion he manages to express in his voice.

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